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1  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Sweden: 2014 on: February 27, 2017, 09:41:37 PM
Five years ago in Sweden, Israel’s Davis Cup team had to play its matches in an empty tennis stadium because the authorities could not guarantee the Israelis’ safety from the mob. The most brazen display of rising anti-Semitism today is the spread of the “quenelle,” a reverse Nazi salute, popularized by the openly anti-Semitic French entertainer, Dieudonné M’Bala M’Bala

Documented on these pages:
Re: Islam in Europe - Davis Cup without Spectators
« Reply #268 on: February 24, 2009, 02:45:06 PM »
I had the opportunity to see a Davis Cup semifinal years ago featuring USA v. Sweden in Minneapolis.  There were no riots in the streets or car burnings.  This story in Malmo is amazing, they are host to Israel v. Sweden and the show just won't go on.  I would be very interested in hearing from people who have witnessed the unrest in places like France and Sweden.
 Anyone for tennis in Malmo?
February 24, 2009

The AP reports that spectators will be barred from the Sweden-Israel Davis Cup match next month in Malmo. There appears to be a vague concern about controlling Swedish youth in Malmo:

    The Davis Cup matches between Sweden and Israel will be played without spectators in Malmo next month. Attempts to move the venue to Stockholm fell through.

    Officials have cited security concerns for the World Group series, which will be played March 6-8. Several anti-Israeli demonstrations have been planned in Malmo.

    Stockholm had offered to host the matches, saying it was better prepared to guarantee security arrangements. But that possibility ended when Stockholm officials said they couldn't get organized in time for Sunday's arrival of the Israeli team.

What's the problem in Malmo? Interested readers are left to fill in the blanks for themselves.   (It's a Muslim immigrant controlled city.)

The video I posted of the riots in Malmo on March 8, 2009 is now blocked.  Eurasia vs. oceania?

Try these:
What immigrant crime wave in Sweden?
2  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Tax Policy on: February 27, 2017, 08:21:44 PM
Yes, but it's a nice way to hammer the blue states.

Right, but also (further) punishing the red voters in the blue states.

I wrote about this earlier, that NJ ad MN among others were going to get hammered.

Yes it makes sense, but it could be a partial exclusion or have a  phase in period.

One thing about extreme ideas like this is that it most likely isn't going to happen.  Why not propose tax reform they can pass and pass it now, instead of talking like a think tank while they have a most certainly temporary governing majority.
3  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Representative Keith Ellison loses DNC chair race on: February 25, 2017, 05:11:37 PM
So I became the Keith Ellison expert for nothing and know almost nothing about Perez, except that the party that chose him is nuts.

I wonder if Ellison believing the Germans invaded Pearl Harbor hurt him.  His call for violence against police and citizens wasn't a negative to the far left.
4  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: I'm leaving the CIA because of Trump on: February 22, 2017, 07:58:00 AM

Is he one of the leakers or did he merely forget to condemn his nine colleagues who committed espionage felonies in order to sabotage the new president and his new staff?

 Good Riddance, deep state.  Clean house, drain the swamp.
5  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: McMaster on: February 22, 2017, 07:49:49 AM
No matter other issues, Trump has picked some great people.

Agreed, starting with Pence, Gorsuch, Mattis, DeVos, Pruitt (EPA).  Tilleson looks good.  Haley is doing great at the UN.

I feel frustrated at the pace of things but that all changes fast if they get the next two things right, healthcare and tax reform.
6  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Milo on: February 20, 2017, 12:13:27 PM

His angry denial here:

I don't want to defend him and I don't know all the outrageous things he's said, but where was this outrage about man boy 'love' when it surfaced on the left?

 I was searching to find out the connection between Breitbart news and alleged white Supremacy.  It seems there are people on the right who lament that Britain is no longer British, Denmark no longer Danish, Sweden no longer Swedish etc.

I'm not sure if that is a phobia, unreasonable fear, when the rape rate goes up a thousand fold and none of the new residents seek employment.  Oops, there I go ...
7  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Venezuela on: February 19, 2017, 10:18:55 AM
It sure is a refreshing change to see the US stand for good and against evil.
8  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Sen. Feinstein's husband (13 months old article) on: February 19, 2017, 10:14:55 AM

Small world. I would have guessed Pelosi's husband. He must not have a rail company.
9  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Representative Keith Ellison - DNC chair race on: February 19, 2017, 10:12:08 AM
DNC chair race comes down to Ellison or not Ellison.

If it's Perez we can move this to another thread.

Successful candidate needs 224 votes out of 447 on Feb 25.

All say this is about competing in all 50 states, blah, blah, blah.

Or is this really about saying what activists want to hear and energizing the base?  We will see.

10  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Math: Five Questions on: February 19, 2017, 09:06:54 AM

I like these Crafty. A 6th question for you and Connor and all from the book, A Beautiful Mind:

Two bicycles are twenty miles apart and start toward each other at ten mph each until their front tires meet.  Meanwhile, a fly starts on the front edge of the front tire of the first bike and flies at 15 mph to the second bike and back and forth and back and forth shorter and shorter distances until it is squished in the middle when the two front tires meet.

How far did the fly fly?

11  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Bureaucracy and Regulations in action: The Fourth Branch of the US Govt. on: February 15, 2017, 04:17:28 PM
A fair point!

That said, isn't this sort of thing revealed in the credit check you run on prospective tenants?  Or filtered out in great part by requiring first and last month, etc.?

The Tesla dealership and the salesman of new construction in Palo Alto can weed out the riff raff but a good part of America has to deal with the people as they come in.
12  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Bureaucracy and Regulations The Fourth Branch. Consumer protection on: February 15, 2017, 06:01:16 AM
How about starting with super simple disclosure of the annualized rate?

Agreed. Disclose the interest rate in font as big as your name, on the front page . I would be surprised to learn there isn't already a requirement, pre-feuxcahontas, for basic consumer loan disclosure as there is with mortgages.

Makes sense that to charge and collect interest you need to provide a reasonably clear contract.

And how about the other side of this? People with bad credit are doing what? Taking products and services from people and stores without paying by the agreed terms. Repo is the car dealers fault?? Taken as a group, this is RICO level organized crime and Bernie Madoff level fraud.  Does anybody care about that?

As a landlord might say to a normal person, have YOU ever made someone go to court to get you out of a place you aren't paying for? Have you ever moved out of a place and left all the doors and windows broken? Have you had eight or 10 car purchases in a row end in repo? If this kind of thing isn't illegal, maybe it ought to be.  Why does government protection have to be one-sided?
13  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Just like AGW, Fukushima radiation was overstated by 6-7 times on: February 15, 2017, 05:39:39 AM
The lesson Fukushima daiichi in my humble opinion is that we most certainly now, in hindsight, can build a nuclear reactor to withstand the worst natural disasters.
Fukushima residents exposed to far less radiation than thought.
14  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Bureaucracy and Regulations in action: The Fourth Branch of the US Govt. on: February 14, 2017, 07:03:47 PM
I get all that.

OTOH there is something about sophisticated loan shark operators fukking those teetering on the edge , , ,

Let's say there should be a legal limit on the financial rape of those  desperate with bad credit, what should the law be?
15  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Tax Reform "coming in weeks" Big League on: February 10, 2017, 10:50:06 AM
We talked about the details, I've been wondering about the timing.  I have been telling people that the tax reform will be retroactive to Jan 1.  My prediction record around has not been so good...

I realize he has cabinet officials to get through, a porous border to stop up and a Supreme Court pick of the highest priority.  Not to mention healthcare and he is already being accused of presenting change in shock and awe fashion.  In addition to all that and regulatory reform that is equally urgent, he will be judged a complete failure if his economic growth record is not FAR above Obama's, and tax reform is the most direct way to get at that.

I can only hope they are taking their time in order to get it right.  It has to be good.  It has to pass.  It has to work, and it has to have some cover to answer the completely predictable complaints that will come from his opponents.  But everyday he waits, we are giving away revenues and delaying the surge of growth that most of us want.

Why would investment pick up based on unannounced new rates and how do you split the calendar year into a two system return.  e.g. How much of your 2017 income was earned before March 3rd or April 7th??!  Delay it a year or phase it in and certain recession sets in while people postpone transactions and investments decisions in waiting.  See 1981-1982.
16  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / WSJ on 9th Circuit decision, separate the immigration and citizen travel issues on: February 10, 2017, 10:32:18 AM
I was listening to the WSJ podcast relating to this editorial and thinking of my own view on it.  

In political conversation, I keep finding myself referring to game theory and it applies to legal strategy here.  As in chess. the desirability of your next move(s) depends on what move(s) your opponent(s) will make in response.  As the editorial infers, the President should be in charge of national security but if you give them an angle to oppose you, no matter what it means for national security, they were going to take it.

Our political opponents (or Trump's) at this point in time most certainly include half the judiciary including half the Supreme Court - plus Justice Kennedy and Chief Justice Roberts at times.  This Executive Order, along with the lead up to it and the lack of preparation to defend it, gave them an opening a mile wide to judge shop and circuit court shop it, challenge it and have it struck down.

This order was really introduced to the country in a campaign gaffe.  Trump said he would put a total ban on all Muslims entering ("until we find out what the hell is going on").  A ban based solely on religion was not the greatest idea nor was it what he ended up doing.  This isn't a religious ban but it was a certainty that it would be taken that way by the President's opponents and presented and challenged that way in the courts.

I am most certainly against American citizens traveling back and forth to terror training camps and back and forth to their homeland to recruit and participate in ISIS and al Qaida based civil wars.  There's no evidence of that?  Try googling "Minnesota Men al Qaida" or woman or ISIS (or read this forum):
Somali terror group linked to Al Qaeda 'recruited 21 men in Minnesota'
Above is one state's connection to a couple of the named countries.  They aren't hard to find and this is just a partial list of ones we know about, not plots secretly foiled.

Back to legal strategy, the leg Trump gave to his opponents to stand on seems to be that the constitutional rights of those who travel to terror countries was restricted.  Why not separate the immigrant /refugee question from the travel ban for American citizens.  It does not matter so much that he is right (or wrong) on the constitutionality, it was a certainty that his opponents in the judiciary would disagree, that this would be struck down in a western court, upheld by the 9th and be a divided decision in the Supreme Court.

Mr. President, don't you get tired of losing?
17  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / 9th Circuit wrong, but impact limited on: February 09, 2017, 11:34:50 PM


A three-judge panel of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals has denied the government’s motion for an emergency stay of the order entered by Judge James Robart blocking implementation of President Trump’s temporary travel ban. The decision is a bad one, I think, but it also has only limited import and won’t stand in the way of more carefully crafted orders to be issued in the future.

First of all, there is simply no doubt about the fact that the president can by order suspend immigration from any country or group of countries. Remarkably, the Ninth Circuit decision fails ever to mention the relevant portion of the Immigration and Nationality Act, 8 U.S.C. §1182(f), which provides:

(f) Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.

The 9th Circuit opinion does not in any fundamental way challenge President Trump’s power to do what he did: stop travel and immigration from certain designated countries.

What, then, did it do? The three judges found that there was a likelihood that someone’s due process rights could be violated by the order. The people in question are not citizens of the seven countries who have never been to the United States, and now want to travel or immigrate here. Those people have no rights under our Constitution, as the Supreme Court has repeatedly held. Rather, the 9th Circuit panel seized on the idea that a few people covered by the order–those who have come here legally already, and now want to return–have constitutional due process rights:

The procedural protections provided by the Fifth Amendment’s Due Process Clause are not limited to citizens. Rather, they “appl[y] to all ‘persons’ within the United States, including aliens,” regardless of “whether their presence here is lawful, unlawful, temporary, or permanent.” Zadvydas v. Davis, 533 U.S. 678, 693 (2001). These rights also apply to certain aliens attempting to reenter the United States after travelling abroad. Landon v. Plasencia, 459 U.S. 21, 33-34 (1982).

So the situation, as viewed by the 9th Circuit panel, is thus: President Trump’s order is overbroad, because it affects, without providing a hearing or other due process, a small number of people who have constitutional rights, like those who are trying to reenter the U.S. after traveling abroad. The administration, on the other hand, argued that it is Judge Robart’s order that is overbroad: it blocks the entire implementation of Trump’s travel order, even though that order is unquestionably valid as to the vast majority of those affected.

The 9th Circuit panel adopted the anti-Trump view of this situation, and took the position that if there is a single person with due process rights who is affected by the order, the entire order can be blocked:

[T]he Government argues that the TRO is overbroad in two independent respects: (1) the TRO extends beyond lawful permanent residents, and covers aliens who cannot assert cognizable liberty interests in connection with travelling into and out of the United States, and (2) the TRO applies nationwide, and enjoins application of the Executive Order outside Washington and Minnesota. We decline to modify the scope of the TRO in either respect.

First, we decline to limit the scope of the TRO to lawful permanent residents and the additional category more recently suggested by the Government, in its reply memorandum, “previously admitted aliens who are temporarily abroad now or who wish to travel and return to the United States in the future.” That limitation on its face omits aliens who are in the United States unlawfully, and those individuals have due process rights as well. Zadvydas, 533 U.S. at 693. That would also omit claims by citizens who have an interest in specific non-citizens’ ability to travel to the United States. See Din, 135 S. Ct. at 2139 (Kennedy, J., concurring in judgment); id. at 2142 (Breyer, J., dissenting) (six Justices declining to adopt a rule that would categorically bar U.S. citizens from asserting cognizable liberty interests in the receipt of visas by alien spouses). There might be persons covered by the TRO who do not have viable due process claims, but the Government’s proposed revision leaves out at least some who do.

So, the 9th Circuit reasons, Trump’s order might be valid as to 99% of those affected, but if there are 1% who have due process rights, the entire order must be voided. This strikes me as a radical approach.

The battle will go on. As Paul urges, the administration might go straight to the Supreme Court. But bear in mind that all the 9th Circuit has done is to deny a motion for an emergency stay, based on “the limited evidence put forward by both parties at this very preliminary stage.” I think the administration could pretty easily tweak Trump’s order to meet the relatively minor objections the plaintiffs have put forward, and create a record in the trial court that would make it difficult for even the 9th Circuit (this is known as “judge shopping” by the plaintiffs, by the way) to stand in the way. In the meantime, let’s confirm Justice Gorsuch, just in case the Democrats try to execute a judicial coup.

Here is the 9th Circuit opinion; read it and judge for yourself:

9th Circuit's Opinion on Travel Ban
18  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness - Scandal free administration is a myth on: February 09, 2017, 02:55:44 PM
This thread imight be the bestt documentary on the internet for tracking the eight lost years of Obama.  I want to make sure we conclude it with the best recaps of what went (right?? and) wrong.  Our job as I see it is to fill in the missing gaps of the 'mainstream' coverage.  Here is a good, succinct shot at that:

Mr. Obama has presided over some of the worst scandals of any president in recent decades. Here’s a partial list:
• State Department email. In an effort to evade federal open-records laws, Mr. Obama’s first secretary of state set up a private server, which she used exclusively to conduct official business, including communications with the president and the transmission of classified material. A federal criminal investigation produced no charges, but FBI Director James Comey reported that the secretary and her colleagues “were extremely careless” in handling national secrets.

• Operation Fast and Furious. The Obama Justice Department lost track of thousands of guns it had allowed to pass into the hands of suspected smugglers, in the hope of tracing them to Mexican drug cartels. One of the guns was used in the fatal 2010 shooting of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry. Congress held then-Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt when he refused to turn over documents about the operation.

• IRS abuses. Mr. Obama’s Internal Revenue Service did something Richard Nixon only dreamed of doing: It successfully targeted political opponents. The Justice Department then refused to enforce Congress’s contempt citation against the IRS’s Lois Lerner, who refused to answer questions about her agency’s misconduct.

• Benghazi. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others were killed in the attack on a U.S. diplomatic compound in Libya. With less than two months to go before the 2012 election, the State Department falsely claimed the attack was not a terrorist attack but a reaction to an anti-Muslim film. Emails from the secretary later showed that she knew the attack was terrorism. Justice Department prosecutors even convinced a magistrate judge to jail the filmmaker.

• Hacking. Mr. Obama presided over the biggest data breach in the federal government’s history, at the Office of Personnel Management. The hack exposed the personnel files of millions of federal employees and may end up being used for everything from identity theft to blackmail and espionage. OPM Director Katherine Archuleta, the president’s former political director, had been warned repeatedly about security deficiencies but took no steps to fix them.

• Veterans Affairs. At least 40 U.S. veterans died waiting for appointments at a Phoenix VA facility, many of whom had been on a secret waiting list—part of an effort to conceal that between 1,400 and 1,600 veterans were forced to wait months for appointments. A 2014 internal VA audit found “57,436 newly enrolled veterans facing a minimum 90-day wait for medical care; 63,869 veterans who enrolled over the past decade requesting an appointment that never happened.” Even Mr. Obama admitted, in a November 2016 press conference, that “it was scandalous what happened”—though minutes earlier he boasted that “we will—knock on wood—leave this administration without significant scandal.”

All of these scandals were accompanied by a lack of transparency so severe that 47 of Mr. Obama’s 73 inspectors general signed an open letter in 2014 decrying the administration’s stonewalling of their investigations.

One reason for Mr. Obama’s penchant for secrecy is his habit of breaking rules—from not informing Congress of the dubious prisoner swap involving Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl and the Taliban, to violating restrictions on cash transfers to Iran as part of a hostage-release deal.
The president’s journalistic allies are happily echoing the “scandal-free” myth.
19  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Pentagon to rent space at Trump Tower on: February 09, 2017, 01:44:34 PM

Looks bad but I think it was the Obama administration that awarded the contract to that developer to create usable space right in the middle of all the federal buildings.

When a congressman flies in a private plane, the expense reimbursement is supposed to be limited to what he or she would have otherwise had to pay for commercial/coach.  It is the premium they pay to be at Trump hotel compared with where else they could lease that forms the potential for real controversy.  MHO.
20  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Emotional set of facts case on: February 09, 2017, 01:34:04 PM
...Apparently INS has some 45 empty judge slots (thank you Obama) and this has contributed mightily to legal process delays.  Trump needs to fill these slots ASAP.

In my travels I listened to NPR and a young liberal reporter set out to study these far right concerns at the border.  She joined up with a Hispanic Border Agent who voted for Trump, a contradiction she just couldn't get over!  In short order they discovered people crossing the border illegally.  When the agent identified himself as "Border Patrol", the people came running to them for intentional arrest.  To them, border patrol means safety, as opposed to running into border gangs, criminals, private citizens with guns, etc. True or not, they uttered what they were trained to say, we are being persecuted for such and such in the place where we came from.  They requested Atlanta as where they wanted their free ride.  There they would be put on a docket and in say 9 months for the case to be called.  In that time a certain percent (75-80%?) disappear into the fabric of society, join with family members already here, become dreamers, sanctuary city beneficiaries, etc.  The frustration with the border agent is that his work is not just a waste of time but making the problem worse.  His union endorsed Trump.  (Hispanic versus Hispanic racists in the mind of the news crew? )
21  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Nation: Reps just voted to make voting machines hackable on: February 09, 2017, 01:16:22 PM

It's the end of the world as we know it, but not a big enough story to make the Huffington Post's top 100.  Maybe they're not liberal (or deranged) enough.  Searched voting machines on google news and pointed me back to the same story.  USA Today has a story, link and excerpt below.

My take: 1) Our elections aren't hacked because we don't centralize them.  US elections are divided into partially self governing states, congressional districts and in elections especially - the precinct level.  Cheating in Chicago or Detroit does not affect Minneapolis or Wyoming.  Butterfly ballots didn't turn the result in Ohio.  Recall the Chavez recall election in Venezuela.  He was trailing 40-60 and won 60-40.  Jimmy Carter the the UN watched the local sites while presumably the dictatorship moved the result 40 points at the center point.  Then Colin Powell and Bush certified Carter's report like it was the gold standard.  That doesn't happen here. 

Leftists at places like 'The Nation' scream the loudest when all the machines come from one manufacturer, have the same updates and vulnerabilities:

2) To 'The Nation', the agency is judged by it's good intentions; to conservatives the agency had a purpose that was fulfilled.  Government programs shouldn't live on forever.

USA TODAY: "Republicans have long argued the agency is no longer needed and was only meant to be a temporary agency to dole out $3.1 billion to states to improve election systems after the disputed 2000 presidential election. That money is gone. Democrats, however, argue the EAC is needed now more than ever."

3) Why didn't Pres. Obama turn the current controversy, imaginary hacking, over to this agency if that is what they are chartered to do and good at?

4) If we closed one of these government solutions agencies every day that step on our 9th amendment, powers left to the people and to the states, there would still be plenty of agencies left to close at the end of 8 years.   MHO.
22  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Humor/WTF on: February 09, 2017, 08:51:42 AM
Must admit laughing and passing that joke along. Welcome Andy.
23  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: STFU Forked Tongue on: February 08, 2017, 11:16:57 AM

I have a feeling that silencing her and (selectively) enforcing "Rule 19" was not the best political strategy. 

On the good side, we are starting to see evidence of a backbone.

From the education thread: 

An all-voucher or all-school choice system would be a shock to the educational system, but the shake out might be just what the system needs.   - Elizabeth Warren, 2004  (Source, her 2004 book)
24  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Sowell on DeVos on: February 08, 2017, 10:40:58 AM

The appointment and confirmation of Betsy DeVos is a BIG DEAL.  Education unions are the biggest contributors of the left and she is a potential monopoly buster.  For the way that education, K-12 and college is so close to a 100% leftist stronghold, it is quite amazing to see a conservative reach the highest office, even if she was a Kasich supporter and had some ties to Common Core.

An all-voucher or all-school choice system would be a shock to the educational system, but the shake out might be just what the system needs.   - Elizabeth Warren, 2004

I would like to see DeVos be so effective that it liberals try to end the federal interference in our schools.  She will oversee a $70 Billion budget and 5000 education employees, all of which doesn't go toward teaching reading, writing, math or science (accurately) to children.
25  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: What Happened to Trump’s Secret Hacking Intel? on: February 08, 2017, 09:47:38 AM
This story broken at about that time:
Three brothers who managed office information technology for members of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and other lawmakers were abruptly relieved of their duties on suspicion that they accessed congressional computers without permission.

Nothing excuses the Russians, if they are guilty.  But aren't all rivals and enemies trying to hack at all times?  Security is part of governing competence.  Or incompetence in the choice of John Podesta and the person who hired him.

Hillary's nefarious activities were exposed by her own disclosures, those of the state department, the FBI, as well as wikileaks who say the source is not the Russians.

Does anyone think the 2017 election was wrongly swung by Russian interference?  IF they were guilty of hacking and releasing, didn't they release what Hillary herself already promised to release.  Don't we want to know that the media and the DNC were inappropriately helping Hillary over Bernie?  That deserves to be exposed, IMHO. I never saw private emails of the wedding and yoga classes revealed.  I only saw the kind of emails that gave us a more accurate look at her work product.
26  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: virtue signalling on: February 08, 2017, 09:21:48 AM
I hope the cute, young, naive gals pictured have the opportunity to visit the gang rape emergency room in support of other victims and not as victims themselves.

My daughter's 5th grade class went to Friendship Camp as an answer to terrorism.  Good luck with that.

Teaching people to underestimate
27  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Daily Mail: World Leaders Duped on: February 07, 2017, 03:14:07 PM

Might I second the idea that this is an important piece.

The skeptics have been asking the alarmists to explain the 18, 19 and nearly 20 year pause in global warming that violates and invalidates all of their models.

In response we this this false, duped, manipulated report put out by presumably esteemed scientists "based on misleading, ‘unverified’ data".

And they allege 2016 was the hottest year on record without saying how much hotter, what was the margin of error in the sampling, or whether they were using actual or 'adjusted' data to reach that unverified conclusion.

From the article:
A high-level whistleblower has told this newspaper that America’s National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) breached its own rules on scientific integrity when it published the sensational but flawed report, aimed at making the maximum possible impact on world leaders including Barack Obama and David Cameron at the UN climate conference in Paris in 2015.
The report claimed that the ‘pause’ or ‘slowdown’ in global warming in the period since 1998 – revealed by UN scientists in 2013 – never existed, and that world temperatures had been rising faster than scientists expected. Launched by NOAA with a public relations fanfare, it was splashed across the world’s media, and cited repeatedly by politicians and policy makers.
But the whistleblower, Dr John Bates, a top NOAA scientist with an impeccable reputation, has shown The Mail on Sunday irrefutable evidence that the paper was based on misleading, ‘unverified’ data.
It was never subjected to NOAA’s rigorous internal evaluation process – which Dr Bates devised.
His vehement objections to the publication of the faulty data were overridden by his NOAA superiors in what he describes as a ‘blatant attempt to intensify the impact’ of what became known as the Pausebuster paper.
28  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Milo on: February 07, 2017, 12:00:50 PM

A must see!
29  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: All back to Justice Kennedy again? on: February 07, 2017, 11:43:16 AM

We might as well call our Supreme Court, our Politburo, as they settle all of our political, executive and legislative matters for us.   
30  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / The war on the rule of law, Yoo, NYT, Executive Power Run Amok on: February 07, 2017, 11:17:50 AM
Prof Yoo is selective about when he supports or opposes executive power (like the rest of us).

The President is on "solid footing" for the removal but his voicing of his reason for removal "suggests a misconception of the president’s authority..."?  

Libya wasn't a war?
Maybe it was a 'kinetic military action', but it looked, smelled, killed and overthrew a government like a war.

On the fence, we already have congressional approval:
The existing law says, roughly, build the fence, make it secure, do what it takes.  So does Trump's executive order. Who enforced that law, not the administration John Yoo served.

Mostly Yoo's attacks are on the words of Trump, not his actions - that he will end NAFTA or slap on tariffs without taking it through Congress.  He has not done that.

The countries on the temporary ban order are "Muslim nations" only in the sense that their military rule tolerates nothing else.  Trump's earlier words referenced a ban on religion; this order did not.  There is a difference between strong words entering negotiations and policy.  Did Reagan end every campaign sentence about tax rate cuts with - 'depending on what the Democratic House wants to do?  No, nor did JFK.  It was presumed that it will go through Congress only if a leader leads it through and the people demand it.  

Prof. Yoo should know the term "bully pulpit" originated with Theodore Roosevelt more than a hundred years ago, not with Donald Trump.  Did they all have this misconception?
31  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Political Economics, gender pay equity on: February 06, 2017, 12:00:21 AM
Linking this post to this thread:
Audi Super Bowl ad
32  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Audi Gender pay equity ad on: February 05, 2017, 11:52:44 PM

Women are still paid 21% less than men. As a brand that believes in progress, we are committed to equal pay for equal work. #DriveProgress
9:17 AM - 1 Feb 2017
  11,092 11,092 Retweets 

What do I tell my daughter?” a male narrator asks in the commercial as the camera pans to a father watching his daughter compete against a bunch of boys in a go-kart race. “Do I tell her that despite her education, her drive, her skills, her intelligence, she will automatically be valued as less than every man she meets?”

“Or maybe I’ll be able to tell her something different,” the narrator concludes as the father leads his daughter towards their Audi sedan. The screen tuns black, and across it are the words in white: “Audi of America is committed to equal pay for equal work. Progress is for everyone.”

Gross. Gross. Gross Gross.

I’m not going to parse how psychologically damaging this advertisement is to all the young girls who will be watching this ad and consequently subjected to the deceitful victimhood rhetoric that “you matter less because of your chromosomes.” Instead, let’s focus on what happened after the luxury car company responded to a question on Twitter. All of the “equal pay” nonsense their ad espouses totally falls apart when faced with the realities of economics.

Here’s the question and response.

@Audi You pay your female employees less than males? You know that's against the law, right?
 Audi ✔ @Audi
@TueborFrog When we account for all the various factors that go into pay, women at Audi are on par with their male counterparts.
5:37 PM - 1 Feb 2017

So, it seems that Audi admits their female employees’ paychecks are not as fat as those of their male employees. Yet this doesn’t mean female employees aren’t being paid equally. Yes, if you compare the overall income of women versus the overall incomes of men, women make 79 cents on the dollar of what a man earns.

But this statistic is misleading, as women often choose occupations that generally pay less than the jobs men chose. For example, fewer women take jobs in science and math fields, which generally pay more. Women do not like taking physically risky jobs, which also often have pay premiums. That’s why very few women work as frackers or linemen. (On the flip side, women die less often on the job then men.) Women also prefer jobs that give them greater flexibility, allowing them to stay home with their children, and they tend to work part-time more often than men do.

When hiring a female employee, employers have to take into account the possibility their worker may become pregnant and need to take a significant amount of time away from her job to recover and take care of a newborn. It’s not sexist for an employer to take that into consideration when hiring a female employee, or for her paycheck to reflect the aggregate of all of these factors. Audi should stop virtue signaling and spreading the false narrative that women are less valuable because of a dumb, long-debunked statistic.

Bre Payton is a staff writer at The Federalist. Follow her on Twitter.

33  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The US Congress; US Senate races, 2018 on: February 05, 2017, 07:03:42 PM
Democrats must defend 10 seats in states Trump won.
Besides making it hard to flip the Senate, this affects how vigorously they can oppose his agenda and his Supreme Court nominees.
34  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Trade Issues / Freedom to Trade, Cargil CEO speaks out against protectionism on: February 04, 2017, 09:41:47 AM
If elected, let us hope Trump does not do too much damage here.

Private $100 billion co in the neighborhood speaks up.  I don't follow them where they drift into immigration.  Travel to Libya Yemen isn't part of attracting the best and the brightest.

(We have overlapping threads, please advise.)
35  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Islam in Arabic/Islamic Countries: Kuwait issues travel ban on: February 03, 2017, 01:24:17 PM
Racist! Islamophobia!

Phobia:. extreme or irrational fear

Well, not exactly...

More of the learned and rational kind.
36  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Islam in Arabic/Islamic Countries: Kuwait issues travel ban on: February 03, 2017, 09:09:08 AM
37  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Islam in Europe, 494 out of 162,000 refugees in Sweden found work on: February 01, 2017, 09:34:48 AM
38  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Sen Sherrod Brown of Ohio opposing Gorsuch on: February 01, 2017, 09:29:35 AM
Sen Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio must not be running for re-election in Trump's Ohio.

He has already opposed Gorsuch confirmation.
39  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Issues in the American Creed Constitutional Law, Gorsuch on: February 01, 2017, 09:12:07 AM
The Gorsuch pick (and confirmation) will free Kennedy to retire.

Ginsburg and Breyer, too!   wink
40  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: tax cuts are a sham on: January 31, 2017, 01:11:25 AM
Under the proposal the bottom pay more and top get by far the biggest breaks and many in between get jack shit.   I am not for this. 
Current Law   Proposal   Single Filers   Married Joint Filers   Head of Household Filers
10%   12%   $0 to $9,275   $0 to $18,550   $0 to $13,250
15%   12%   $9,275 to $37,650   $18,550 to $75,300   $13,250 to $50,400
25%   25%   $37,650 to $91,150   $75,300 to $151,900   $50,400 to $130,150
28%   25%   $91,150 to $190,150   $151,900 to $231,450   $130,150 to $210,800
33%   33%   $190,150 to $413,350   $231,450 to $413,350   $210,800 to $413,350
35%   33%   $413,350 to $415,050   $413,350 to $466,950   $413,350 to $441,000

The article lists both static and dynamic scoring.  Look only at the dynamic  numbers (from a reliable source).  The static numbers are only for the deniers of the science, and to know in advance what the left will say.

In general, I disagree with you.  Some rich are losing hundreds of thousands in deductions. Still they will face a lower marginal tax rate on the next dollar of income - making them more likely to earn it, which is a good thing for the economy.  It's hard to help the lower earners with tax rate cuts; the lowest two quintiles pay in very little.  They will be helped by a growing economy.

This is a step in the right direction.  And as Crafty suggests, not necessarily the final draft.
41  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: A HuffPo piece on: January 30, 2017, 03:33:23 PM

I agree with this Huffington Post piece.     - I'm not sure which emoticon to put with that.  )
42  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Tax Policy - House Republican Tax Plan, the blue state penalty on: January 30, 2017, 03:28:16 PM
As I am understanding the tax proposal not yet made, they will keep 2 of the 3 essential deductions in place while lowering the rates.  Mortgage interest and charitable - in, state and local taxes paid deduction - out.

I think this is partly right in principle but will not work in practice.

Kind of fun to tell NY and Calif that their over-taxation at the state and local level does not give them anyu advantage on federal taxes.  Plus they didn't voter for Trump and the Republicans anyway.

In my case, I cannot pay taxes with after tax money.  There isn't enough left to do that.

Money paid in taxers isn't income, and it isn't cash available to pay more taxes.  This is a bigger problem than 100 refugees stranded in an airport...

I am normally willing to vote against my own interests but I can't support policies that bankrupt me or force me out of my home.

I wrote to the author of this piece for further information, will update if I receive any reply of substance.

Get ready for a fight.
Read it at the source if these table format unreadable here.

Details and Analysis of the 2016 House Republican Tax Reform Plan
July 5, 2016
Kyle Pomerleau
Download FISCAL FACT No. 516: Details and Analysis of the 2016 House Republican Tax Reform Plan (PDF)

Key Findings

The House Republican tax reform plan would reform the individual income tax and would move towards destination-based cash flow taxation of businesses.
According to the Tax Foundation’s Taxes and Growth Model, the plan would significantly reduce marginal tax rates and the cost of capital, which would lead to 9.1 percent higher GDP over the long term, 7.7 percent higher wages, and an additional 1.7 million full-time equivalent jobs.
The plan would reduce federal revenue by $2.4 trillion over the first decade on a static basis. However, due to the larger economy and the broader tax base, the plan would reduce revenue by $191 billion over the first decade.
Although the plan would reduce federal revenue by $2.4 trillion on a static basis in the first decade, much of the revenue loss is one-time. As a result, the plan will cost much less in subsequent decades.
On a static basis, the plan would lead to 0.7 percent higher after-tax income for all taxpayers and 5.3 percent higher after-tax income for the top 1 percent. When accounting for the increased GDP, after-tax incomes of all taxpayers would increase by at least 8.4 percent.

In June, the House Republicans released a tax reform plan.[1] The plan would reform the individual income tax code by lowering marginal tax rates on wage, investment, and business income; broaden the tax base; and simplify the tax code. The plan would also lower the corporate income tax rate to 20 percent and convert it into a destination-based cash-flow tax. Finally, the plan would eliminate federal estate and gift taxes.

Our analysis finds that the House Republican tax plan would reduce federal tax revenue by $2.4 trillion over the next decade. The plan would reduce marginal tax rates on labor and substantially reduce marginal tax rates on investment. As a result, we estimate that the plan would boost long-run GDP by 9.1 percent. The larger economy would translate into 7.7 percent higher wages and result in 1.7 million more full-time equivalent jobs. Due to the larger economy and the broader tax base, the plan would reduce revenue on a dynamic basis by $191 billion over the next decade.

Changes to the Individual Income Tax

Consolidates the current seven tax brackets into three, with rates of 12 percent, 25 percent, and 33 percent (Table 1).
Table 1. Tax Brackets for Ordinary Income Under Current Law and the House Republican Tax Plan
Current Law   Proposal   Single Filers   Married Joint Filers   Head of Household Filers
10%   12%   $0 to $9,275   $0 to $18,550   $0 to $13,250
15%   12%   $9,275 to $37,650   $18,550 to $75,300   $13,250 to $50,400
25%   25%   $37,650 to $91,150   $75,300 to $151,900   $50,400 to $130,150
28%   25%   $91,150 to $190,150   $151,900 to $231,450   $130,150 to $210,800
33%   33%   $190,150 to $413,350   $231,450 to $413,350   $210,800 to $413,350
35%   33%   $413,350 to $415,050   $413,350 to $466,950   $413,350 to $441,000
39.6%   33%   $415,050+   $466,950+   $441,000+
Taxes capital gains and dividends as ordinary income and provides a 50 percent exclusion of capital gains, dividends, and interest income. This is equivalent to taxing capital gains, dividends, and interest income at half the rate of ordinary income, with three brackets of 6 percent, 12.5 percent, and 16.5 percent (Table 2).
Table 2. Tax Brackets for Capital Gains and Dividends Under Current Law and the House Republican Tax Plan
Current Law   Proposal   Single Filers   Married Joint Filers   Head of Household Filers
0%   6%   $0 to $9,275   $0 to $18,550   $0 to $13,250
0%   6%   $9,275 to $37,650   $18,550 to $75,300   $13,250 to $50,400
15%   12.5%   $37,650 to $91,150   $75,300 to $151,900   $50,400 to $130,150
15%   12.5%   $91,150 to $190,150   $151,900 to $231,450   $130,150 to $210,800
15%   16.5%   $190,150 to $413,350   $231,450 to $413,350   $210,800 to $413,350
15%   16.5%   $413,350 to $415,050   $413,350 to $466,950   $413,350 to $441,000
20%   16.5%   $415,050+   $466,950+   $441,000+
Increases the standard deduction from $6,300 to $12,000 for singles, from $12,600 to $24,000 for married couples filing jointly, and from $9,300 to $18,000 for heads of household.
Eliminates the personal exemption and creates a $500 non-refundable credit for dependents who are not children.
Increases the Child Tax Credit to $1,500 per child, limits the refundability of the credit to $1,000, and raises the phaseout threshold for the Child Tax Credit for married households from $110,000 to $150,000.
Eliminates all itemized deductions besides the mortgage interest deduction and the charitable contribution deduction.
Eliminates the individual alternative minimum tax.
Changes to Business Income Taxes

Reduces the corporate income tax rate from 35 percent to 20 percent.
Eliminates the corporate alternative minimum tax.
Taxes income derived from pass-through businesses at a maximum rate of 25 percent.
Allows the cost of capital investment to be fully and immediately deductible.
Eliminates the deductibility of net interest expenses on future loans.
Restricts the deduction for net operating losses to 90 percent of net taxable income and allows net operating losses to be carried forward indefinitely, and increased by a factor reflecting inflation and the real return to capital. Does not allow net operating losses to be carried back.
Eliminates the domestic production activities deduction (section 199) and all other business credits, except for the research and development credit.
Creates a fully territorial tax system, exempting from U.S. tax 100 percent of dividends from foreign subsidiaries.
Enacts a deemed repatriation of currently deferred foreign profits, at a tax rate of 8.75 percent for cash and cash-equivalent profits and 3.5 percent on other profits.
Modifies all business income taxes to be border-adjustable, disallowing the deduction for purchases from nonresidents and exempting export profits and foreign-derived profits from taxation.
Other Changes

Eliminates federal estate and gift taxes.
Impact on the Economy

According to the Tax Foundation’s Taxes and Growth Model, the House Republican tax plan would increase the long-run size of the economy by 9.1 percent (Table 3). The larger economy would result in 7.7 percent higher wages and a 28.3 percent larger capital stock. The plan would also result in 1.7 million more full-time equivalent jobs.

The larger economy and higher wages are due chiefly to the significantly lower cost of capital under the proposal, which is due to the lower corporate income tax rate and the full expensing of capital investment.

Table 3. Economic Impact of the House Republican Tax Plan
Source: Tax Foundation Taxes and Growth Model, March 2016
GDP   9.10%
Capital Investment   28.30%
Wage Rate   7.70%
Full-time Equivalent Jobs (in thousands)   1,687
Impact on Revenue

If fully enacted, the proposal would reduce federal revenue by $2.4 trillion over the next decade on a static basis (Table 4). The plan would reduce individual income tax revenue by $981 billion over the next decade. Corporate tax revenue would fall by $1.2 trillion. The remainder of the revenue loss would be due to the repeal of estate and gift taxes.

On a dynamic basis, the plan would reduce federal revenue by $191 billion over the next decade. The larger economy would boost wages and thus broaden both the income and payroll tax base. As a result, the federal government would see $566 billion in additional individual income tax revenue and $683 billion in additional payroll tax revenue. On the other hand, corporate income tax revenue would actually decline even more on a dynamic basis. This is because the plan would encourage more investment and result in businesses deducting more capital investments, which would reduce corporate taxable income.

Table 4. Ten-Year Revenue Impact of the House Republican Tax Plan (Billions of Dollars)
Tax   Static Revenue Impact (2016-2025)   Dynamic Revenue Impact (2016-2025)
Source: Tax Foundation Taxes and Growth Model, March 2016.
Note: Individual items may not sum to total due to rounding.
Individual Income Taxes   -$981   $566
Payroll Taxes   $0   $683
Corporate Income Taxes   -$1,197   -$1,324
Excise taxes   $0   $57
Estate and gift taxes   -$240   -$240
Other Revenue   $0   $68
Total   -$2,418   -$191
The House Republican tax plan contains a number of significant base broadeners. Eliminating all itemized deductions except for the mortgage interest deduction and the charitable deduction would significantly broaden the income tax base and raise about $2.3 trillion over the next decade.[2] In addition, the plan would eliminate most individual credits, except for the Child Tax Credit, the Earned Income Tax Credit, and the American Opportunity Tax Credit. This would raise an additional $104 billion over the next decade.

Expanding the standard deduction, replacing the personal exemption with a dependent credit, and expanding the Child Tax Credit would reduce revenue slightly ($127 billion over the next decade).

On the business side, there are two significant base broadeners. The elimination of the interest deduction would raise $1.2 trillion over the next decade. In addition, making business taxes border-adjustable would raise another $1.1 trillion over the next decade. The elimination of business credits and deductions and the limit on net operating losses would bring in an additional $701 billion over the next decade.

The largest sources of revenue loss in the first decade would be the individual and corporate rate cuts and the move to full expensing of capital investments. Reducing individual income tax brackets to 12, 25, and 33 percent would reduce revenue by about $2 trillion over the next decade, while cutting the corporate income tax to 20 percent would reduce revenue by $1.8 trillion over the next decade.[3] Capping the tax rate on pass-through businesses would reduce revenue by $515 billion (after accounting for the new, lower tax brackets). Full expensing of capital investment would reduce revenue by $2.2 trillion over the next decade.

Table 5. Ten-Year Revenue and Economic Impact of the House Republican Tax Plan by Provision
Provision   Billions of Dollars, 2016-2025
Static   GDP   Dynamic
Eliminate the alternative minimum tax   -$354   -0.3%   -$428
Eliminate all itemized deductions except for the mortgage interest and charitable contributions deduction   $2,331   -0.4%   $2,218
Eliminate most personal credits   $104   0.0%   $104
Tax capital gains and dividends as ordinary income, allow a 50% deduction for capital gains, dividends, and interest   -$609   0.3%   -$531
Allowfull expensing of capital investments   -$2,236   5.4%   -$883
Disallow interest deduction on new loans   $1,194   -0.1%   $1,176
Border adjust business taxes   $1,069   -0.4%   $936
Eliminate section 199 and all business credits, and limit net operating loss deductions   $701   -0.1%   $677
Repeal the estate and gift taxes   -$241   0.9%   -$20
Expand and consolidate the standard deduction, replace the personal exemption with a dependent credit, and expand the Child Tax Credit   -$127   0.0%   -$112
Consolidate individual income tax brackets into three of 12 percent, 25 percent, and 33 percent   -$1,954   1.5%   -$1,641
Tax income derived from pass-through business at a maximum rate of 25%   -$515   0.6%   -$388
Lower the corporate income tax rate to 20%   -$1,807   1.7%   -$1,325
Enact a deemed repatriation of deferred foreign-source income   $185   0.0%   $185
Move to a territorial tax system   -$160   0.0%   -$160
Revenue Impact Beyond the First Decade

Although the plan will reduce federal revenues by $2.4 trillion over the next 10 years, much of the cost is due to transitional, or one-time, revenue losses that disappear eventually. There are two provisions that contribute significantly to these transitional costs: full expensing of capital investments and the elimination of the interest deduction.

As stated above, moving to the full expensing of capital investments would reduce federal revenue by $2.2 trillion over the next decade. There are two revenue impacts from moving to expensing. First, businesses will be allowed to fully write off investment costs the first year. This speedup of cost recovery increases the present value of cost recovery and reduces federal revenue each year. Second, after full expensing is enacted, businesses will continue to write off investments they made under the old depreciation regime. When businesses fully write off new investments and continue to write off old investments, corporate taxable income falls significantly in those years, greatly reducing corporate revenue. However, once old depreciation has expired, the annual cost of expensing drops.

The plan also eliminates the deduction for net interest payments by businesses. We assumed that this provision would be prospective, or it would only apply to interest on loans made after the proposal went into effect. As a result, businesses would continue to deduct interest from loans acquired before enactment of the plan, reducing the amount of revenue this provision would raise in the first decade. In later decades, as old debt is retired, more interest would no longer be deductible, resulting in more revenue.

The plan also has one transitional revenue raiser: deemed repatriation. This proposal would tax corporations on their current deferred offshore profits. We assume that this provision would only raise revenue in the first 10 years.

As a result of these transitional issues, the plan would cost much less in subsequent decades. We estimate that the proposal would reduce federal revenue by 1.1 percent of GDP in the first decade, 0.5 percent of GDP in the second decade, and 0.4 percent of GDP after all transition costs have phased out.

Components of the Dynamic Revenue Estimate

The dynamic revenue impact of -$191 billion over the next decade can be broken down into three pieces: the marginal tax cuts, growth, and the base broadeners.

The first piece is the marginal tax rate reductions in the plan. These provisions include, but are not limited to, the cut in the corporate income tax rate to 20 percent, full expensing of capital investments, and the reduction in marginal tax rates for most individuals. Combined, these tax cuts would reduce federal revenue by $8 trillion over the next decade if enacted alone.

The second piece is the expected increase in revenue due to economic growth. As stated previously, this plan would reduce marginal tax rates on work, saving, and investment. Our model finds that these marginal tax rates would significantly increase the long-run size of the economy. The larger economy would boost wages and thus increase the tax base, especially for the individual income and payroll taxes. As a result, the growth from the plan would reduce the 10-year cost of the plan by roughly $2.5 trillion.

The third and final piece is the base broadeners in the plan. The House Republican tax plan contains a number of significant base-broadening provisions, such as the elimination of most itemized deductions, the elimination of the deduction for net interest expenses for businesses, and the border adjustment of businesses taxes. Combined, these provisions significantly broaden the tax base and reduce the revenue loss of the tax plan by $5.3 trillion over the next decade.

Distributional Impact of the Plan

On a static basis, the House Republican tax plan would increase the after-tax incomes of taxpayers in every income group. The bottom 80 percent of taxpayers (those in the bottom four quintiles) would see a small increase in after-tax income between 0.2 percent and 0.5 percent. Taxpayers in the top 10 percent would see a 1 percent increase in after-tax income. Taxpayers in the top 1 percent would see the largest increase in after-tax income on a static basis of 5.3 percent, driven by both the lower top marginal tax rate and the lower corporate income tax.

On a dynamic basis, all taxpayers would see an increase in after-tax income of at least 8.4 percent. The top 1 percent of taxpayers would see an increase in after-tax income of 13 percent on a dynamic basis.

Table 6. Static and Dynamic Distributional Analysis
Changes in After-Tax Incomes
Income Group   Static   Dynamic
Source: Tax Foundation, Taxes and Growth Model (March 2016 version)
0% to 20%   0.3%   8.4%
20% to 40%   0.5%   8.6%
40% to 60%   0.2%   9.1%
60% to 80%   0.2%   8.5%
80% to 100%   1.0%   8.8%
90% to 100%   1.5%   9.3%
99% to 100%   5.3%   13.0%
TOTAL   0.7%   8.7%


The House Republican tax plan would reform both the individual income tax and convert the corporate income tax into a destination-based cash flow tax. This plan would significantly reduce the cost of capital and reduce the marginal tax rate on labor. These changes in the incentives to work and invest would greatly increase the U.S. economy’s size in the long run, boost wages, and result in more full-time equivalent jobs. On a static basis, the plan would reduce federal revenue by $2.4 trillion, most of the revenue loss being from one-time transitional costs. However, due to the larger economy and the significantly broader tax base, the plan would reduce revenue by $191 billion over the next decade.
43  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Wesbury: December Personal Income on: January 30, 2017, 03:06:04 PM
Also note that GDP went up 1.8% per year the last 8 years   - - -   as Wesbury predicted?     (

The good news is the predictability - that dismal policies bring dismal results.

The bad news is that we haven't really changed the policies yet.
44  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Cognitive Dissonance of the left, it was Tim Kaine's fault on: January 29, 2017, 09:21:21 AM

No.  It was President Obama's fault, candidate Clinton's fault, and the fault of the policies of the entire Democratic party.

Tim Kaine was a complete jerk in the VP debate.  His debate strategy came from the Clinton campaign.  Had they picked someone else, they would have given him or her the same, failed mission.
45  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / NJ property taxes average 8500 per house on: January 27, 2017, 09:48:44 AM

It's probably just rich people living there, right ccp?  )

I thought my property taxes were bad.  I pay more than 100% of my take home income in property taxes.

We need a tax revolt, preceded by a spending revolt.
46  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Death of NATO on: January 27, 2017, 09:44:52 AM
You were prescient, Doug.

Thank you BD.  I should give some credit to my co-author, Prof. Hanson.  )

Repeal and replace:  NATO
Repeal and replace:  UN

All the points VDH made in there were true then and becoming even more so. 

The article could have been used a blueprint for some celebrity to run for high office...
47  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues on: January 27, 2017, 09:37:28 AM
It's too early to measure, but what an amazing difference.  Media report historically horrible approval at inauguration and Rasmussen measures it at 57%.

Different samples but I suspect it is a quite different way they ask the question.  Making polls to move people rather than to measure movement.
48  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Media, Ministry of Truth, polling accuracy? on: January 26, 2017, 06:27:59 PM
Real clear politics:
President Trump Job Approval: Gallup 46% | Rasmussen 59% | Quinnipiac 34%

25 point spread, how can that be?
49  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, illegals voting, poll on: January 25, 2017, 10:28:46 AM

Based on a sample survey of 800 Hispanics in 2013, McLaughlin found that of foreign-born respondents who were registered voters, 13 percent admitted they were not United States citizens.

80℅ Dem.  We need voter ID.
50  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Franken ermerging as liberal force on: January 22, 2017, 10:38:46 PM

Franken emerging as all other potential leaders have been burned through and as the liberals prepare to sit on the sidelines and criticize.

Please correct me, anyone, if I am missing something about Al Franken.  His only 'humor' is sarcasm.  He has zero charisma.  He never was a lightweight on liberal policy and conservative bashing.  He kept a low profile in his first term for good reasons, what were they?  a) they stole the election for him and b) he is not a very likable guy.

I missed the questioning on the nominees, but wouldn't it be great to hear the nominees question the Dem Senators:  Let's see, you've been overseeing federal education for how many years, 6 years and your President for 8 years and which direction is it going under your watch?  Downward spiral.  What would you say to the following chart that clearly shows a negative correlation between federal involvement in our schools and outcomes, and federal money and outcomes?  You all oppose school choice, why?  And you call yourselves pro-choice?  Did they teach words and their meanings in your public school?  Would you say the brand of liberalism you practice is more about clarity or deception?
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