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101  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Trump-Pence, My endorsement on: July 25, 2016, 09:47:49 AM
Here is my whole-hearted, lukewarm, lesser of evils, unapologetic endorsement of Trump-Pence for President in 2016, and my advice to others on the fence.

I started this as a Rubio supporter.  Trump beat Rubio in his own state, in his own party.  Trump needs Florida to win in November.  Trump needs Rubio -in the Senate.  Rubio needs Trump for turnout in Florida, for Commander in Chief and to sign the badly needed reform in Washington.  America needs bothTrump and Rubio and all of us or else leftism will be permanent.  As unlikely as it seemed a short time ago, this is our team.

These are my biggest objections to Trump (other than his personality) and how he addressed these to win my vote:

1)  He is profoundly wrong on Kelo and private, crony government takings.

2)  He is profoundly wrong on trade.

3)  Trump is not a true, limited government conservative.

(1) On Kelo, his answer was to offer a list of potential Supreme Court picks representing the type of Justices he will appoint.  This is not a promise or a perfect answer but it is a great list that addresses that concern as well as it is possible.  There is a risk that Trump (or any Republican) will make a bad pick and there is the certainty that Hillary will make nothing but bad picks for the Courts from a constitutional conservative point of view.

(2)  On trade, Trump promises to re-open trade agreements bilaterally and get better terms for America.  I am not on the same page as Trump in his view of what has gone wrong.    America can compete with anyone on a level playing field.  Our problems are internal, excess taxation and excess over-regulation. These are both areas that Trump is actively addressing and that Hillary will make worse, much worse.  

Trump promises the new agreements will be better for America.  They are not better if they include high tariffs paid by American consumers, a trade war, a falling economy or a rising cost of living.  He can't let that happen and deliver on his promise.  Trump is willing to threaten tariffs with Mexico, China and others.  The threat must be real but the end point must be no tariff.  If he stands true on his promise, we will win concessions without new tariffs and he will not trigger a trade war or the next Great Depression.

More importantly, the sovereignty loss in "trade" agreements is real and Trump will not give away our country the way President Obama and Hillary Clinton have and would.

(3)  Regarding limited government conservatism, Donald Trump was not among my top 100 choices of the 17 running and those who might have.  Mike Pence, on the other hand, is as good of a limited government conservative as we can hope for in high elective office and he is Trump's pick for his VP choice.  Worst case, no matter how badly Trump governs we are one heartbeat away from a chance at having great, limited government, conservative President.  With Hillary there is no such hope or chance.  Far more optimistically, the Pence pick and other limited government promises such as relief on taxes and regulations are positive indicators of the direction the Trump Presidency will take.

Then there is the Gary Johnson (non-)alternative.  This is a binary choice, Trump v. Hillary.  Johnson is disqualified.  When asked whether it was wrong for the United States to intervene in WWI? In WWII? Johnson's entire answer was, "I don't know"!
For all our differences over Iraq, Iran, Syria and ISIS, if you don't know the answer to that one at this point in your life and are running for President, you aren't going to be my choice for Commander in Chief!

Hillary Clinton starts this race with 242 electoral votes in hand out of 270 required, the so-called "Blue Wall".  18 states including NY, Calif, etc. and D.C. have gone Democratic in the last six presidential elections. If she loses within these, she has also loses the swing states and loses the election in a landslide. Trump running with Mike Pence will win all the solidly Republican states, more states but less than half the electoral votes.  Gary Johnson and all other minor party candidates combined will win zero states.  Trump-Pence will open the contest in the Midwest, so called rust belt states, and can make Clinton spend resources in NY and NJ.  But mostly, any Republican ticket needs to run the table in the well-known swing states to win.

Anyone who leans at all right, despises Hillary, lives in any contested state, and then does not vote for Donald Trump, the only alternative to Clinton, is securing her election and a permanently leftist, anti-constitutional country.  Sure they say this every year and it's true every year, but the consequences of screwing up this time have never been worse.

Herb Brooks told his gold medal hockey team after they beat the Soviet Union and were facing Finland in the finals, "Lose this one and you will take it to your grave".  Complain about Trump all you want, but sit this one, help Hillary win, and ... ditto ... you will take the consequences of that to your grave.

Trump is far from perfect but there is no acceptable alternative remaining.  You take all that is wrong with Trump or you and your children and your grandchildren will be ruled forever by leftists.   No pressure.

Hillary will open up felon votes, illegal votes, no-ID votes, foreigner votes, maybe pre-school votes, and I barely exaggerate.  All but the last is already in motion. This will be the last close election if we give them four more years to transform the electorate.

This Rubio supporter, almost-never-Trump-type will be voting for Trump-Pence on November 8 with no apologies!
102  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Donald Trump on: July 25, 2016, 08:43:52 AM
2 things I noticed
#1  Ivanka said something about single mothers should have child care - my question - at whose expense.

Nice catch.  I missed her speech, but Trump's format was a State of the Union speech and the longer those speeches go, the more proposals we get for new federal government programs.  Our 'big government conservatives' (oxymoron) can't attract those votes without surrendering principles to the the left.  Yes single parents need child care in order to work and be self sufficient.  Therefore we need a federal government program?  "Life of Julia".  We need assistance, really a relationship with the federal government at every point in our life from pre-natal to 6 feet under.  This is defied in Article WHAT? in the constitution?

The government is not your husband.  To say out loud, Rule 1 of not being in poverty is to marry before starting a family is to lose votes.  Leftists want to go back to the 50s for marginal tax rates but not for family structure.  And pseudo-Republicans want to emulate Democrats to win votes.

Asking this question in public may win votes, but if you really think this through you will find that a new federal social engineering program is the not best answer.  Designing a perfect life for single mothers to raise children without fathers might not even be asking the right question.
103  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: July 25, 2016, 08:23:02 AM
"Note the absence of all Bushes, McCain, Romney, Boehner, and Rove at Trump's convention."
I don't blame them.  But for me, they were not missed.

Right.  I'm not as anti-'establishment' as some but my point is, that rift is a positive for Trump in the eyes of many he wishes to court especially those wanting to express a protest or screw them all vote.     Trump says he is not a Republican (or a Democrat), right as he accepts the Republican nomination!  A majority of voters do not identify as Republican and a majority do not identify as Democrat.  This starts as a 3 point election either way.  They both have challenges holding their base and need to chip away a point here and there in the middle and around the edges. 
104  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: July 24, 2016, 10:10:41 AM
" I actually like Hillary – a lot – and I think she has been given a bad rap she doesn’t deserve. But her vote for the Iraq War made me promise her that I would never vote for her again. To date, I haven’t broken that promise. For the sake of preventing a proto-fascist from becoming our commander-in-chief, I’m breaking that promise. I sadly believe Clinton will find a way to get us in some kind of military action."  [ - Michael Moore, not much of an endorsement!]

" Minnesota is one of the smartest states in the country. It is also filled with people who have a dark sense of humor — and voting for Ventura was their version of a good practical joke on a sick political system."

Did you vote for Ventura?

No, I didn't vote for Ventura but I watched it happen.  He wasn't as crazy then.  Someone before him in the Independence Party or whatever they called it earned the right for him to be in the debates with 15% of the vote in a previous election.  Two totally establishment politicians set the table for people to say f*** you to both parties pretty much the way Moore described it.  That is partly analogous to Trump.  He is a way for people to say f*** you to both sides of the establishment without agreeing with him on issues.

Note the absence of all Bushes, McCain, Romney, Boehner, and Rove at Trump's convention.

We seek reason here but people vote largely on emotion.

Speaking of humor I think voting the comedian Al Franken to the Senate was pretty great.  I mean Moore doesn't see "dark" humor in that?

I was not a fan of Franken's SNL humor and he's not the least bit funny as a Senator. All he knows is sarcasm and leftism.  It was more that he was a celebrity in name and a serious voice in politics from a leftist point of view.  He wrote books on Rush Limbaugh and he hosted the failed Air America radio to challenge him, bringing in leftist thought leaders for 3 hours a day for years.  This work caused him to be fully versed on the leftist side of the issues.  By winning the DFL (Dem) nomination, he won the election in 'blue' MN.  Amy Klobuchar, the other Senator is more popular and probably more liberal.  Think Hillary Clinton without all the charm and charisma.  Trump does not bring MN into play and Hillary will only come here to raise big money.  When Reagan won 49 states, guess which one he lost...
105  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Energy Politics & Science, The "Duck Chart", Grid Energy Demand on: July 24, 2016, 09:27:57 AM
Referred to in a previous post, here is a picture of the Duck Chart showing energy production needs at different hours of the day.  We made this giant investment in renewable energy via government subsidy, not economics or environmental forethought.  Once in place, renewables have two main characteristics, they are greatly variable in output depending on weather, time of day, time of year, and they have a nearly zero variable cost, skewing the demand for other sources.  That leaves us with the challenge of filling the large gaps with coal, gas and nuclear on a super large scale, but they don't switch on and off quickly and easily when the sun goes behind a cloud or the wind stills on a hot, air conditioned afternoon.

Natural gas is now cheaper than nuclear and more able to scale up and down to meet the extreme variations in the new grid demand curve.  Putting carbon-free nuclear out of business makes the whole renewable boondoggle a giant step backwards for the environment by all measures.

Who knew?
106  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: "Allah Akbar" translates to "we may never know the motive" on: July 24, 2016, 07:37:32 AM
That's right, They holler Allah Akbar and we don't know the motive?!   Muslim Brotherhood is secular? Islamic State is not Islamic?   [An economy stuck in place is in recovery? Affordable housing and healthcare are the kinds you can't afford, requiring subsidy?  Tax cuts are racist?   Exhaling is pollution?  Marriage is not when a woman become husband and wife?] We live in George Orwell's 1984.   They took over thoughts by taking over language.   It could backfire.  A man who owns 11 trillion and lives in a palace can represent the common man.  Europe has their own Trumps to oppose the Islamic invasion and the denial of it.
107  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential, Michael Moore, five reasons Trump will win on: July 24, 2016, 07:03:47 AM
108  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Hillar's VEEP, Friday afternoon news dump? on: July 22, 2016, 03:15:50 PM
I said it would be Tim Kaine, now NYTimes says Tim Kaine, Washington Post, too, but he is not liberal enough!  Supported Free Trade!

Cory Booker is black.  That's exciting!  'His' life matters.  But supports school choice.  (

Elizabeth Warren is Cherokee, Harvard's first 'woman of color'!  Too risky.

Hickenlooper supports fracking.  Are there ANY good Democrats available?

It's pretty hard to say her first choice Huma comes from a different state if they are together 24/7/365.

This is a conundrum.

Hillary should pick Joe Biden!  Tanned and tested.

Democrats save bad news they want ignored for the Friday afternoon news dump.
Hillary says she will 'tweet' her choice today.
109  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Renewable Energy Is Blowing Climate Change Efforts Off Course on: July 21, 2016, 12:49:43 PM
Some truths see light...

Germany, the leader in renewables, uses 40% coal!  "In Germany, where renewables have mostly replaced nuclear power, carbon emissions are rising, even as Germans pay the most expensive electricity rates in Europe."

In the fight against CO2 emissions, we are phasing out the largest source of emission free power generation.  Dumb, even by liberals (and POTH)  standards.  Nuclear, gas and coal plants don't switch on and off on a dime when the sun and the wind go down.

How Renewable Energy Is Blowing Climate Change Efforts Off Course

Is the global effort to combat climate change, painstakingly agreed to in Paris seven months ago, already going off the rails?

Germany, Europe’s champion for renewable energy, seems to be having second thoughts about its ambitious push to ramp up its use of renewable fuels for power generation.

Hoping to slow the burst of new renewable energy on its grid, the country eliminated an open-ended subsidy for solar and wind power and put a ceiling on additional renewable capacity.

Germany may also drop a timetable to end coal-fired generation, which still accounts for over 40 percent of its electricity, according to a report leaked from the country’s environment ministry. Instead, the government will pay billions to keep coal generators in reserve, to provide emergency power at times when the wind doesn’t blow or the sun doesn’t shine.

Renewables have hit a snag beyond Germany, too. Renewable sources are producing temporary power gluts from Australia to California, driving out other energy sources that are still necessary to maintain a stable supply of power.

In Southern Australia, where wind supplies more than a quarter of the region’s power, the spiking prices of electricity when the wind wasn’t blowing full-bore pushed the state government to ask the power company Engie to switch back on a gas-fired plant that had been shut down.

But in what may be the most worrisome development in the combat against climate change, renewables are helping to push nuclear power, the main source of zero-carbon electricity in the United States, into bankruptcy.

The United States, and indeed the world, would do well to reconsider the promise and the limitations of its infatuation with renewable energy.

“The issue is, how do we decarbonize the electricity sector, while keeping the lights on, keeping costs low and avoiding unintended consequences that could make emissions increase?” said Jan Mazurek, who runs the clean power campaign at the environmental advocacy group ClimateWorks.

Addressing those challenges will require a more subtle approach than just attaching more renewables to the grid.

An analysis by Bloomberg New Energy Finance, narrowly distributed two weeks ago, estimated that nuclear reactors that produce 56 percent of the country’s nuclear power would be unprofitable over the next three years. If those were to go under and be replaced with gas-fired generators, an additional 200 million tons of carbon dioxide would be spewed into the atmosphere every year.

The economics of nuclear energy are mostly to blame. It just cannot compete with cheap natural gas. Most reactors in the country are losing between $5 and $15 per megawatt-hour, according to the analysis.

Nuclear energy’s fate is not being dictated solely by markets, though. Policy makers focused on pushing renewable sources of energy above all else — heavily subsidizing solar and wind projects, and setting legal targets for power generation from renewables — are contributing actively to shut the industry down. Facing intense popular aversion, nuclear energy is being left to wither.

As Will Boisvert wrote in an analysis for Environmental Progress, an environmental organization that advocates nuclear energy, the industry’s woes “could be remedied by subsidies substantially smaller than those routinely given to renewables.” The federal production tax credit for wind farms, for instance, is worth $23 per megawatt-hour, which is more than the amount that nuclear generators would need to break even.

Nuclear generators’ troubles highlight the unintended consequences of brute force policies to push more and more renewable energy onto the grid. These policies do more than endanger the nuclear industry. They could set back the entire effort against climate change.

California, where generators are expected to get half of their electricity from renewables by 2030, offers a pretty good illustration of the problem. It’s called the “duck curve.” It shows what adding renewables to the electric grid does to the demand for other sources of power, and it does look like a duck.

As more and more solar capacity is fed onto the grid, it will displace alternatives. An extra watt from the sun costs nothing. But the sun doesn’t shine equally at all times. Around noon, when it is blazing, there will be little need for energy from nuclear reactors, or even from gas or coal. At 7 p.m., when people get home from work and turn on their appliances, the sun will no longer be so hot. Ramping up alternative sources then will be indispensable.

The problem is that nuclear reactors, and even gas- and coal-fired generators, can’t switch themselves on and off on a dime. So what happens is that around the middle of the day those generators have to pay the grid to take their power. Unsurprisingly, this erodes nukes’ profitability. It might even nudge them out of the system altogether.

How does a renewables strategy play out in the future? Getting more power from renewables at 7 p.m. will mean building excess capacity at noon. Indeed, getting all power from renewables will require building capacity equal to several times the demand during the middle of the day and keeping it turned off much of the time.

Daily fluctuations are not the end of it. Wind power and sunlight change with the seasons, too. What’s more, climate change will probably change their power and seasonality in unforeseen ways. Considering how expensive wind and sun farms can be, it might make sense to reconsider a strategy that dashes a zero-carbon energy source that could stay on all the time.

A report published last month by the White House’s Council of Economic Advisers suggests there is space for more renewable energy on the grid. New technologies — to store power when the sun is hot or to share it across wider areas — might allow for a bigger renewable footprint.

But there are limits. “There is a very real integration cost from renewables,” said Kenneth Gillingham, an economist at Yale who wrote the report. “So far that cost is small.”

In Germany, where renewables have mostly replaced nuclear power, carbon emissions are rising, even as Germans pay the most expensive electricity rates in Europe. In South Australia, the all-wind strategy is taking its toll. And in California, the costs of renewables are also apparent.

Nuclear energy’s fate is not quite sealed. In New York, fears that the impending shutdown of three upstate reactors would imperil climate change mitigation persuaded Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s office to extend subsidies comparable to those given to renewables, to keep them afloat. Even in California, where nuclear energy has no friends, Diablo Canyon, the last remaining nuclear plant, is expected to stay open for almost another decade.

Still, both New York and California expect to eventually phase out nuclear power entirely. An analysis by Bloomberg puts the cost of replacing Diablo Canyon’s zero-carbon power with solar energy at $15 billion. This sum might be better spent replacing coal.

Displacing nuclear energy clearly makes the battle against climate change more difficult. But that is not what is most worrying. What if the world eventually discovers that renewables can’t do the job alone? “I worry about lock-in,” Ms. Mazurek said. “If it doesn’t work, the climate doesn’t have time for a do-over.”
110  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Energy: "Every time we can't drill a well in America, terrorism is funded!" on: July 21, 2016, 12:19:46 PM
A Great Line That No-One Noticed At The GOP Convention:

"Every time we can't drill a well in America, terrorism is being funded!"

    - Harold Hamm, credited with discovering the Bakken oil fields
111  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Islam in America (and pre-emptive dhimmitude) on: July 21, 2016, 12:14:01 PM
The Somalians were brought to MN for ice hockey, very funny!

"Due to Somalia's proximity to the equator, there is not much seasonal variation in its climate."   - Same here.  )

I'm guessing this started before Al Franken, but the question remains, why?

They were brought here to collect benefits and vote Democratic, or to wage war against us, or both.

112  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Ten Minnesota Somali jihadis found guilty on: July 21, 2016, 10:52:16 AM

"With an estimated 100,000 plus Somali immigrants settled in Minnesota, brought there by the federal government..."

This is such a big story in so many ways and is being ignored by the media.  Powerline blog has covered it in detail, but Scott Johnson from Powerline (writing in City Journal) was Breitbart's only source too.

They were brought here by the federal government?!  Why Minnesota, the place where they will assimilate worst?  Did they assimilate?  No.  Do they join the Jihad?  Yes, significant numbers do.  Many were already arrested for joining al Qaida.  Now it's ISIS. 

The crucial point is that our government is still planning to bring many many more 'refugees' from the region to America, (and Europe, etc.)  Are significant numbers of those people ISIS sympathizers?  Yes.  Will some of them join the Jihad?  Yes.  Will they attack us here?  Yes.  Do they want to come in order to assimilate, join our communities, become Americans?  No, they keep their own communities, set them up here and insist we accept their ways.  Do they bring special job skills needed by our high tech economy?  No.  Will they bring in more revenue than they cost us?  No.  Is there any positive side of this?  Yes.  They are believed to be reliable Democratic voters. 

The Startribune couldn't tell the story without focus on the appeal, entrapment and attacking the "all-white jury", a line right out of Rubin Carter and the story of 'Hurricane'.
Was the Somali Jihadists' trial about incontrovertible evidence or was it about the race of the jury?
Maybe ee could have been culturally sensitive and tried them in a Sharia court and had them judged by a jury of their Jihadi peers...
113  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Michael Yon on the declassified document on: July 21, 2016, 09:44:15 AM

What do you take from this?  The document is new and perhaps provide new details but it seems the relationships were already known.  Does contact with a hijacker mean a family member knew the mission?  Michael Yon is suggested we should have overthrown Saudi or still should?  Saudi is an enemy of ISIS and Iran.  We could depose the royal family and it would be the ISIS Caliphate's dream come true.
114  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Sen.Ted Cruz on: July 21, 2016, 08:50:27 AM
To be fair, Cruz's classless appearance was preceded by Trump being classless in the way he defeated Ted Cruz for the nomination.  That doesn't mean this was the right answer.

Ted Cruz never was the right guy for the job.  He did remarkably well to take second place.  Second place deserves a prime spot on the podium - for the purpose of bringing the different factions together.

The party's nominee owns the convention.  Cruz' petulance makes Trump looks gracious for letting Cruz have the podium and say whatever he wanted to say.  

Kasich wouldn't go to the convention in his own state.  Rubio videotaped it in - as if he hadn't set aside this week for traveling to Cleveland or didn't want to speak in front of a crowd.  I'm disappointed in Rubio too but at least he gave his support to the nominee and the ticket with strong and persuasive reasons.  This has been a lousy process in a year where the table was set for success.  Oddly, it was Trump who set the bad tone and Trump who they feared wouldn't support the party's ultimate nominee.

Take a close look at the Pence speech if you want an example of what a true conservative can find as positives on the Trump side of a Hillary-Trump matchup.  Hillary is the status quo for everything that is wrong.  Judged by his actions of putting out a list of possible Supreme Court nominees, a rock-solid VP choice, his tax plan, his border security plan, his calling out of ISIS for what they are, Trump is something completely different and better than Hillary and the status quo in nearly every direction and dimension.  If you are Ted Cruz and are too bruised by the ugly primary process to see that or say that, decline the opportunity to speak.

Every speaker at a convention may be trying to boost themselves by boosting the nominee.  Ted Cruz did neither, committed 'political suicide'.  Win, lose or draw for Trump this year, Ted Cruz will never unite this party.
115  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Mike Pence proves you can be both kind and ruthless during rousing RNC speech on: July 21, 2016, 08:23:32 AM
I heard this speech without knowing about the Cruz theatrics that preceded it.
Mike Pence proves you can be both kind and ruthless during rousing RNC speech

We all know what Donald Trump has brought to this presidential campaign. Wednesday night Mike Pence finally brought the stuff that was missing.

Calm, sober, exuding heartland decency, a guy who grew up in front of a cornfield brought a sleepy, surly crowd to its feet. Just an hour or so earlier, Trump’s delegates, led by a vocal Empire State faction, shouted down Treacherous Ted Cruz for failing to offer even a pro forma endorsement of the GOP nominee and finally booed him back to Texas.

No GOP convention anyone can remember has ever before had to stumble through its convention worried about nailing down the votes of its core demographic of Arnold Palmer-drinking, God-fearing, flag-saluting country-club Republicans.

Pence’s speech told these voters: I’m here. I’m proof that we’re still the same party. If you’re worried about who will provide adult supervision in the White House, look no further.

Both party conventions usually go off so smoothly that it’s easy to overlook the potential for disaster. Nobody wants the Message to be occluded by accusations of plagiarism, much less by the nightmare spectacle of the delegates practically coming after the second-place finisher and supposed unifier with pitchforks and torches.

Pence, starting out with his trademark line, “I’m a Christian, a conservative and a Republican, in that order” segued beautifully into the kind of gentle self-deprecating humor that always works well in politics — but especially well in a season of anger and hyperbole.

Of Trump, Pence said, “He’s a man known for a large personality, a colorful style and lots of charisma.So I guess he was looking for some balance on the ticket.”

Then Pence did the thing that no other speaker this week, except Donald Trump Jr., could quite manage: Without sounding like it was wishful thinking, he cogently fused his brand of old-fashioned conservatism with Trump’s bold new direction. He wrapped it all up so it was as pretty as a package from the little neighborhood jewelry store around the corner from Trump Tower, the one his younger daughter is named after.

Talking about an economy that has borrowed massively yet barely delivered a pulse, Pence said, “The national debt has nearly doubled in these eight years and [Hillary Clinton’s] answer is to keep borrowing and spending . . . they tell us this economy is the best that we can do. It’s nowhere near the best that we can do. It’s just the best that they can do.”

Serene and mature, Pence provided the superego to Trump’s id, yet identified their common ground: They’re both so indisputably American: “He’s the genuine article,” Pence said. “He’s a doer in a game usually reserved for talkers.

And when Donald Trump does his talking, he doesn’t tiptoe around 1,000 new rules of political correctness. He’s his own man, distinctly American — and where else would an independent spirit like his find a following than in the land of the free and the home of the brave?”

Pence proved to be an adept attack dog, too. Gently, almost politely, he tore Clinton apart without the red-faced shoutiness other speakers showed, the kind commentators easily dismiss as nutty raving.

The crowd here at Quicken Loans Arena has, not entirely to its credit, taken to shouting “Lock her up!” whenever the Democratic Party nominee is mentioned. They did so again when Pence brought her up.

But instead of taking his cue from the crowd in the room, Pence made a subtly damning case to TV viewers: “Over in the other party, if the idea was to present the exact opposite of a political outsider, the exact opposite of an uncalculating truth teller, then on that score you’ve got to hand it to the Democratic establishment, they outdid themselves this time . . . At the very moment when America is crying out for something new and different . . . Democrats are about to anoint someone who represents everything this country is tired of.”

That isn’t Trumpian bluster. That’s succinct, direct, reasonable and devastating. Trump-Pence may be a match made in politics, but this could be the beginning of a beautiful friendship.
116  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Gov. Mike Pence on: July 20, 2016, 11:46:35 PM
Did Mike Pence knock it out of the park this evening?  It sounded very good on radio.

117  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: July 20, 2016, 10:42:25 PM
Looking for the post about Hillary's commodity trades and not finding it  , , , angry     
118  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / IBD: Don't Weep For Turkey's Erdogan -- He's Killing His Nation's Democracy on: July 20, 2016, 04:06:11 PM
I can't find where I posted my question, which side were we on, the military coup or the Erdogan disaster?

Don't Weep For Turkey's Erdogan -- He's Killing His Nation's Democracy

rkey: Foreign support for Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan during the coup was based largely on the idea of defending a democracy. But it's Erdogan who seems intent on destroying Turkey's democracy.

Everyone around the world seemed to agree that Turkish democracy was worth defending from a coup. "The president and secretary agreed that all parties in Turkey should support the democratically elected government of Turkey, show restraint and avoid any violence or bloodshed," a statement from the U.S. State Department read.

"Germany stands on the side of all of those in Turkey who defend democracy and the rule of law," said German Chancellor Angela Merkel, whose country is home to millions of Turkish gastarbeiter.

Indeed, across the world the response was remarkably the same: Whether we like Erdogan or not, coups are bad and, after all, Erdogan was democratically elected. To support Erdogan is to support democracy. End of story.

Well, to a point.

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People forget Erdogan's own conflicted feelings about democracy. In the past, he has likened democracy to a train: You get on and then get off once you get to where you're going. In short, democracy for him isn't a bred-in-the-bone conviction but rather a political convenience, useful only for grabbing power then discarding it like yesterday's trash.

Case in point: Following the coup, Erdogan arrested 8,777 officers from the Interior Ministry, according to the state-run Anadolu news agency, including  103 generals and admirals and thousands of police officers. He also detained judges, lawyers, senior aides and others, said Anadolu.

This looks a lot more like a purge than a legitimate security action, particularly since Turkey's government has described the plotters -- none of whom has had a trial yet -- as a "cancer" that must be "cleansed" from Turkey's public institutions.

In an interview with CNN, it became quite clear that Erdogan won't be governing in the future as a small-d democrat. Apparently, he's getting off the train.

This is problematic for a number of reasons.

For one, Turkey has an outstanding application to join the European Union, based on the notion that it is a legitimate democracy.

But as Erdogan threatens to reinstate the death penalty to take care of those who allegedly plotted against him, the EU warns it will end any hope he has of future membership in the EU.

"Let me be very clear on one thing ... no country can become an EU member state if it introduces (the) death penalty," EU foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini said.

For another, Turkey is a NATO member. But it has been shaky in its support of NATO since Erdogan, a committed Islamist, took over, even denying NATO the use of airbases during the Iraq war. Secretary of State John Kerry warned that the Turkish government could fall foul of NATO's "requirement with respect to democracy" and "diversity" if it fails to uphold the rule of law after the coup attempt.

No doubt Vladimir Putin, looking to expand his baneful influence in the Mideast, is licking his lips.

But the fact is, as head of the Turkish state since 2003 -- first as prime minister and since 2014 as president -- Erdogan has methodically exerted control over Turkish institutions and cashiered thousands of officers in Turkey's military, the traditional pro-Western bulwark against those who would end Turkey's secular democracy, first established by Ataturk in 1923.

And he's become more bold of late.

"Developments in the aftermath of the June and November 2015 parliamentary elections convinced many Turks that it was no longer possible to change the government through democratic and peaceful means," wrote Yüksel Sezgin, director of the Middle Eastern Studies Program at Syracuse University's Maxwell School of Citizenship and Public Affairs, in the Washington Post. "Erdogan would not recognize the results of June 2015 parliamentary elections in which his ruling AKP (Justice and Development Party) lost its parliamentary majority and called for repeat elections in November 2015."

"In the meantime, he destroyed the peace process with the Kurdish rebels that he started a few years earlier and launched a major military campaign in the Kurdish cities, which left thousands of people homeless, injured and dead," Sezgin added.

In short, Erdogan has silenced media that criticize his regime, bullied the judiciary, harassed political foes and arrested those who pose a threat to him, all in his bid to restore an Islamic form of government based on Shariah law.

No, that doesn't mean the coup plotters would have been better.  But certainly Erdogan is no democrat -- at least not in the Western sense. We should stop defending him as such. Sadly, what remains of Turkey's democracy of 75 million may be gasping its last breaths, as Erdogan uses the coup as a pretense to seize greater and greater power. What a pity.
119  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Politics at State Level, Politico: Something is Rotten in Minnesota, Race on: July 20, 2016, 04:01:52 PM
"Self inflicted Stupidity", i.e. unforced errors.

This article is not good enough to post 3 times, in state and local, race thread and cognitive dissonance of the left.  But it is an interesting look into leftist cluelessness that affects everyone, everywhere.

They start by interviewing the architect of the current, failed plan, Myron Orfeld, a former state senator and professor of leftism at the University of Minnesota.  To balance his view, they talk to more and more leftists and ask them all the wrong questions about what has gone wrong.

MN WI and IA always have the best test scores in the nation.  Unfortunately it is because they have the highest proportions of white people, not the best schools.  If some other state had that proportion of Asian-American students, the advantage would be there.

People ask why the blue model works in Minnesota, a loaded question with a false premise.  Like Sweden, the welfare state worked back when the population had a more homogeneous culture and a widely held Scandinavian work ethic that was stronger than the disincentives to work contained in the blue state welfare mess.  

Minnesota has the highest disparity of incomes between black and white in the nation.  So much for success.  Many blacks live in neighborhoods where welfare is abundant and employment is scarce.  The goal of the leftists is to get a balance of blacks and welfare and programs and assistance into all the suburbs and communities, not just the currently black neighborhoods.  That would solve what?

Whites tend to come from here.  50% of blacks came here from other states.  That gets loser to 100% as you look back a few generations.

The article goes from quoting the person who designing the current failure:  “It was a lot of self-inflicted stupidity” is Myron Orfield’s analysis, to quoting other leftists who think more government programs and subsidies would this time help these people become self sufficient. [an oxymoron?]  Did the people who succeed do so because of more government programs and bigger subsidies?  No.  But they aren't black.

"Minnesota may be paying for its own success; its consistently thriving economy [nation's most generous welfare benefits?] has drawn thousands of blacks and migrants of color from other states and countries, and traditionally homogeneous Minnesota has been slow to absorb them.
The ones not working for the most part didn't come here to work.

The Twin Cities is roughly 1st in the nation for lowest unemployment rate (3.1%) for metropolitan areas:
Like the national numbers, that does not include entire segments of the population who live their lives outside of the BLS defined workforce.

Bring these people back into the economy in a positive and constructive way and it would solve nearly all our problems...
120  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: psycho-babble of a terrorist on: July 17, 2016, 01:24:06 PM
Seems to me that being a psycho and being a radical Islamic terrorist are not mutually exclusive conditions.
121  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Well-armed People (Gun rights stuff), Mass murders using weapons other than guns on: July 15, 2016, 04:19:45 PM
The trucker in France had guns, but the larger point remains, he didn't need guns or assault rifle to commit mass murder.  We can ban trucks, limit weight and horsepower on trucks, sue the truck manufacturers for the unintended use if we want.  Will that stop mass murder?

The enemy is the ideology that makes us their enemy, and the terrorist following it, not the device used. 

There are IEDs, dirty bombs, pipe bombs, poison gas in enclosed spaces and homemade nuclear devices.  There are guns, airplanes and trucks and who knows what else?  Ban all of them and we will learn which ones we missed, maybe serial beheadings with a kitchen knife, ban that too. 

Guns have a specific use in self defense and crowd defense in some of these same situations. 

Strangely, we only want to ban the one that is a constitutional right, and the only one widely used in self defense.

Ban mass murder, declare war on ISIS and hunt down their sympathizers, but don't ban self defense or the most obvious way to end a mass murder in process.
122  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Donald Trump, VP pick, election chances on: July 15, 2016, 03:45:44 PM
"Pence had endorsed Ted:"

The Pence pick is better than taking Cruz, Rubio or Kasich.  He gets all the credit without taking any of that baggage.  Pence is better than Cruz in that he served longer in Congress, has foreign policy and executive experience, gets along on Capital hill, and hasn't been in any big fights with Trump.

No conservative in their right mind can not sit out or not vote Trump.  There is the chance that Trump could either govern well or die.  What chance do conservatives have to turn things around if the other side wins?  None.

The timing is perfect.  They needed to unite, not fight, coming into the convention.

The speaker lineup looks great for the convention.  Look for a great show.  I hope they get decent viewership and make some kind of a substantive and lasting impression.  

Hillary is now free to pick Tim Kaine, the left's Mike Pence.  He is a white, middle aged guy that has served as Governor and Senator in Virginia, a key state.  That should be a fair fight.  Let whoever is right on the issues prevail.

The table is now set for Trump to win in a landslide.  (PAT WAS RIGHT.)  Trump closed the gap before doing anything right.  Now he can step up, be Presidential, rip up a flawed opponent and win.  There is a powerful case to be made against the status quo on the economy and around the world and she has no chance to separate herself from it.  Trump faulted Romney for not seizing that opportunity.  Now is his chance.

Don't blow it.

P.S.  Trump is dead wrong on two things in particular, private takings and being or sounding anti-free trade.  The first won't come up and he can rip TPP all he wants for its sovereignty issues.  If he can get through the convention without ripping free trade on its merits he will go a long way toward winning and governing well.  We don't need a trade wall to make America great again.
123  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Issues in the American Creed (Constitutional Law and related matters) on: July 15, 2016, 03:13:15 PM
Wisdom before law school?  A rare case of it!
124  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Education, Job training on: July 15, 2016, 03:02:55 PM
I think a post disappeared here.  I wanted to jump back in and say great story DDF(?).  It brought up many questions about companies, the training of their employees, the difficulty of relocating and considerations that go way beyond wage rates.
125  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Hillary's Muslim immigration policy on: July 15, 2016, 02:42:20 PM

She reads that to mean a million new Democratic voters...

Hillary took an issue where her opponent has been seen as extreme and now gone extreme herself in a more dangerous, less popular direction.  Do even the illegal Hispanics want open borders for the Islamists?  Do blacks?  Do gays want more Muslims here?  Do Rabbis?  Do blue collar working people?  Do soccer mom's want more terrorists in the neighborhoods?   I'm not being facetious; Eden Prairie schools, a rich suburb here, had to re-draw the Elementary school lines to uncluster the influx of Somalis moving in.  What means busing the white kid to a school further from their home.  Guess what?  Moms don't like that.

If your opponent has gone extreme right on a crucial issue, why not lock in the center?  Take in new immigrants with due diligence and caution, even a pause while we figure out what is going on.  But the left is not led by the center. Current leftist leaders including Obama, Hillary, BLM, SEIU, AFSCME, the Planned Parenthood organ chop shop and all the rest risk splitting up the coalition they worked so hard to build.
126  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of the left on: July 14, 2016, 12:05:29 PM
Pointing out the obvious:

Regarding Hillary's college plan and every other leftist position on every leftist issue, from the Iraq war to minimum wage, healthcare, unemployment, education, and the Obama phones...they don't want to solve the problem; they want to get elected.

"We are the change that we seek."  - Barack Obama, Feb 5, 2008
127  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Hillbillary college plan, Dems proposals are usually chump change on: July 14, 2016, 11:49:53 AM
"she would impose a three-month moratorium on federal student loan payments via executive action"

A 3 month moratorium on a LONG term problem?

Via executive action?  Is that the new Article 1, 2 and 3 of the living, breathing US constitution?!

Someone stop her!

How about instead get the economy going again and let adult education be a market? 

How about start with no money toward gender studies and other fields that produce nothing.

The federal student loan and grant money is what is causing the out of control college costs.  It's not students demanding higher costs with their own money.  The idea you might not have to repay it makes it even more attractive to incur, hold and not pay down.

As usual, do more of whatever caused the mess.  Blame others.
128  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Gov. Mike Pence on: July 14, 2016, 11:34:39 AM
"Pence had endorsed Ted"

Yes.  And Warren endorsed Sanders.  Unite your own side, then fight for the middle.

Pence's views match Cruz better, but the R's in his state went for Trump.  He endorsed Cruz late and cautiously.

Divided we fall.

129  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Sowell reviews "The War on Cops" on: July 14, 2016, 11:28:44 AM
"The majority of humans on the planet are Han Chinese, yet they are vastly unrepresented in the NBA and the US prison system. Some sort of systemic discrimination, obviously."

How come the Gullibles fall for the SJW drivel so easily?

Even Obama admits, if you grow up in fatherless house, you are 5 times more likely to commit crimes.
A black kid has a 72% of being born into a fatherless home.  Not a hit by lightning chance, a 3 out of 4 chance.
Government took the place of fathers.
Result: Too any black kids, boys in particular, turn to crime and end up in prison.
Leftist Answer:  Double down on same strategy and make it worse.  Then blame anyone who questions that.

To the Gullibles:  Do you know this is what you keep voting for?

To the opponents of government-run families and failed communities:  Hello... Is anyone home?
We’re hiring,” the [Dallas] police chief said. “Get out of the protest line and fill out an application.”
130  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Donald Trump, the Veepstakes and the Republican convention on: July 14, 2016, 10:46:08 AM
"The decision has to be made by tomorrow, Thursday, and the actions needed in Indiana to make that possible need to happen on Friday."

I will make my announcement Friday 11am:

The timing indicates it is Pence.  Ballot juggling needs to be done in Indiana by Friday noon.

Krauthammer prefers Gingrich, Pence doesn't 'move the needle'.

The Pence choice is not bold and takes the pressure off of Hillary to make a risky choice, introducing someone new to the country like Castro or Perez.  She should pick Biden.  But will pick Warren.  Warren unites her left leaving her free to flirt with the center.

On another note, PAT WAS RIGHT, polls are roughly even now both nationally and in key states coming into the conventions, and Trump hasn't really started or done anything right yet.  This race is very winnable.

Trump has been quiet lately, taking just a few minutes to win the argument against Supreme Court Justice Ginsburg who apologized today.  He is preparing for his convention.  This is the media event of the media life he has led since the 1980s.  He has complete control and has had 30 years to visualize and plan for this.  It is the summer doldrums of news.  Can he attract an audience and put forward a message that will live past the Hillary convention that has the advantage of going last?  We will see.

Look for Jodi Earnst to hit it out of the park.  Tray Gowdy should make the case against Clinton; he will be Trump's Attorney General.  Ted Cruz is going to step up to the plate.  Marco Rubio, the one they should have picked, will paint a vision for the future.  And look for some surprises better than Clint Eastwood's attempt last time.

Good luck to the Donald.  He needs to make a personal and Presidential connection with the people who have doubted him.  I wish he wasn't wrong on a couple of key issues.
131  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Sowell reviews "The War on Cops" on: July 14, 2016, 10:14:25 AM

As usual, don't we wish people would come across these facts and this level of analysis without having to read an opinion piece of a conservative columnist on a conservative site.  The people who need to see this aren't seeing it.

"Although many people regard these “disparate-impact” statistics as evidence, or virtually proof, of racial discrimination, suppose that I should tell you that black basketball players are penalized by NBA referees out of all proportion to the 13 percent that blacks are in the American population."   - Unfair!

"black political and community leaders, back in the 1980s, spearheaded the drive for more severe legal penalties against those who sold crack cocaine. Black congressman Charlie Rangel of Harlem was just one of those black leaders who urged these more severe penalties. So did the New York Times, the promoter of many crusades on the left."

   - Does anyone ever point that out?  No.  Except here.

"whites were turned down at nearly twice the rate that Asian Americans were turned down"

   - A fact that doesn't fit a narrative or agenda, therefore irrelevant.  If you keep looking for differences between groups, you will find them.  That rarely defines causation.
132  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Clintons' Casa Grande criminal conspiracy in the '90s, Obstruction of Justice on: July 14, 2016, 09:58:11 AM

This piece is a keeper.  Like the Cattle Straddles, the only part that falls short of a prosecutable felony is that the facts and evidence were not all available until the Statue of Limitations had expired.  The crime is Obstruction of Justice, concealment of documents under judicial subpoena which means the documents expose even worse crimes.

She is already ineligible to be hired for any federal office, so let's make her President!

I don't want to re-live the 90s and the watching of the hunt down of Clinton crimes like a sports fan, but every opponent of Hillary today needs to be able to answer succinctly the question from Whitewater and the rest of it, 'What did she do wrong?'

The cattle straddles crime was the accepting of stolen money paid to in exchange for crony government favors.  The crime here is obstruction of justice; she prevented the court from doing it's job - in a criminal case where she was part of the conspiracy! 
133  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Training Gap, not a skills gap on: July 14, 2016, 09:33:36 AM

"In manufacturing alone there are two million job openings that could go unfilled due to a shortage of qualified applications, all while many young people are struggling in the labor market."

People think manufacturing left the US because of low wage rates elsewhere and its true for some things.  But that doesn't make any sense as manufacturing gets more robotic, specialized and automated.

Strange to me that people can pay $60,000 per year to get educated, whether it is in engineering or gender studies, but it is illegal for a company to train an employee for free.  Young people and all people jump jobs so quickly and easily that real investment in training often has no return to the company.  Another firm can pick them off after training and save the expense, and they do.  We need some kind of business innovation on this front.  Government's best role in it, most likely, is to get out of the way. 

Read the description of these unfilled jobs.  They want someone who has years of experience doing exactly that job.

Mobility is a great thing - except that the employer and the employee no longer have any loyalty, and no one outside of government has a pension anymore.
134  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Issues in the American Creed (Constitutional Law and related matters) on: July 14, 2016, 09:19:57 AM
I was at Columbia.  She was my Constitutional Law prof.  We did not like each other very much.

A badge of honor!  Weren't you more liberal back then?
135  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Law Enforcement on: July 13, 2016, 11:09:53 PM
"Philando Castile has been pulled over at least 52 times in the last 14 years, issued 86 citations and assessed 6,588 in fines.  (This doesn't have anything to do with shooting him, but indicates he doesn't follow instructions well, like don't reach for your gun.)"


Sorry, I missed this link in my post:
136  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Gen Flynn is pro-choice, Trump VP stakes, Mike Pence on: July 13, 2016, 07:30:11 PM

When I read the above, I thought, no big deal.  Reflecting further I think Trump does not need a fight with his base and the VP choice is the clearest signal he can send about how he will choose his team and govern.

Another point about the General, who seems to be a strong pick, is that we value civilian control over the military.  A retired general is a civilian but his strength comes from being a general.  Besides pro-choice, whatever surprises will emerge?

Earlier I predicted John Kasich because the Ohio Governor can help him win a key state and Trump is all about winning, doesn't need help governing.  But Kasich can't him when he won't endorse him.  Too much bad blood there, so skip that too.

Newt is 73.  When he seeks to follow Trump's two terms, he will be 81.  Fine with me but I don't see it happening.  I also don't think Newt has the energy now that he did when he was the star 22 years ago.  Newt's political strengths are phenomenal but his weaknesses persist.  He drifts off focus.  Like Trump, he had his own affairs.  He was a "historian" for Fannie Mae(?!) and he lost Florida to Romney...  He can serve better as an adviser or cabinet member.

Christy?  Let's hope not.  Christy might be the best prosecutor of Hillary, that is what Trump says he wants, but brings his own baggage.

Rubio? Out.  Cruz? No.  Carson? Has faded from sight.  Condi?  No.  Jeff Sessions? Why?

Knowing Trump a little, he would like to pick from somewhere completely off our radar screen, his own Sarah Palin, but that hasn't worked.

The right answer at this moment is Mike Pence, hedged only by the fact that no one can predict Trump on anything.

Pence checks all the boxes.  He is experienced, level headed, conservative, not extreme, and won't over-shadow the candidate.  He has served in Congress, on foreign policy and governed a midwest, rust belt state.  He looks and sounds seasoned, but is only 57, about the right age for that job.

The decision has to be made by tomorrow, Thursday, and the actions needed in Indiana to make that possible need to happen on Friday.

Pence was a little cowardly on the religious defense against militant gay crusaders, but is a solid conservative that makes the choice between Hillary and Trump a stark one.

Hillary picks last, can pick a woman, black or Hispanic and can play that card until she is blue in the face and thick in the calves.  Trump will make the case that he is ready to disrupt the status quo, and go super negative on Hillary when he isn't busy trying to look Presidential.

For all the possibilities, the media is ready to go with their hit pieces:

Critics say Pence has not accomplished anything significant and rather has glided on the coattails of his predecessor, former Gov. Mitch Daniels (R), who is credited with putting Indiana’s fiscal condition in order and growing the economy.

Supporters have cheered Pence's focus on tax cuts and credit him with signing into law one of the largest tax cut deals in state history.

Pence is "a Christian, a conservative and a Republican, in that order."

He led the fight to de-fund Planned Parenthood, a winning conservative issue.  He opposed the Bush-Kennedy, no child left behind.  He opposed the bank bailout in 2008.

Rated 61% on free trade by Cato.  That's about right for Trump.

137  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / More on the MN shooting on: July 13, 2016, 02:36:07 PM
The officer said on the police radio that the driver looked like an armed robbery suspect, not a taillight offender.  Facts leak out so slowly.  

A BOLO (Be On Look Out) alert was issuedTuesday July 5th.  Philando Castile was pulled over on July 6th in the same vicinity.

From the radio dispatch of Officer Jeronimo Yanez:

“I’m going to stop a car. I’m going to check IDs.  I have reason to pull it over.”

“The two occupants just look like people that were involved in a robbery. The driver looks more like one of our suspects, just ‘cause of the wide set nose.”

Maybe our Governor was right.  If he was white he wouldn't have looked like the armed robbery suspect.

Philando Castile has been pulled over at least 52 times in the last 14 years, issued 86 citations and assessed 6,588 in fines.  (This doesn't have anything to do with shooting him, but indicates he doesn't follow instructions well, like don't reach for your gun.)

Philando Castile had a permit.
This actually indicates he probably wasn't the armed robbery perp.  CCW permit holders don't do that.  But it puts the cops on edge knowing he may have a gun within reach.  MN cops know they are dealing with a permit holder when they walk up to a vehicle assuming the vehicle plates were his.

We don't know the whole story of this is at this point, nor do any of the protesters.  In fact we don't know ANTHING about the 103 seconds that led to the officer drawing, warning and shooting.  I said earlier, I don't know how you justify shooting four times, but we don't know that he did.
138  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Race, black families, intact or broken, Larry Elder on: July 13, 2016, 09:08:52 AM
Liberal unintended consequences are of no matter to liberals.

The black family was more intact under slavery than under the war on poverty.

This is not a statement that anything good happened under slavery.  It is an indictment of our current policies.
139  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Race, religion, ethnic origin, Which Lives Matter? on: July 13, 2016, 08:51:43 AM
Can we say red, white and blue lives matter?  Still racist. 

How about if we say, black, red, white and blue lives matter?

To say 'All Lives Matter' is to not appreciate that No One in America alive today was ever a slave or counted as 3/5th of a person.

My sister liked this one, 'black olives matter'.

I hate to ask, but what about the unborn?  Do Black Lives Matter for the most innocent among us?

If you are an unborn 'little one' growing, thriving and developing in a black woman's womb, you are 4 times (5 times?) more likely than a white baby to be stabbed in the head with the 'doctor's' scissors, or whatever it is they do now, in celebration of 'liberal' America's 'pro-choice' 'freedom'.

Do Black Lives really Matter or is just fun to throw rocks at police?

Meanwhile, I wonder how the effort is going to recruit sharp young black men and women to take up law enforcement careers in troubled, inner city communities.  Has our transformative President spoken to that need yet?
140  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: International Law Court rules against China; China says FY on: July 13, 2016, 08:09:08 AM

I am calling on President Trump in conjunction with all the other countries in the region to rename the formerly South China Sea.

Let them devalue their country and currency, let them sell cheap goods cheaply to American consumers, but don't let them control the Taiwan to Singapore Sea, the South Sea of Fallen Totalitarian Regimes.  It belongs to all of us.
141  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: My Constitutional Law Prof at it again on: July 11, 2016, 04:26:26 PM
We wouldn't want rule by the elites even if they were smarter and wiser than us, and they aren't!    We are down to two supreme court justices you still want to uphold the Constitution.   The moderates and the liberals on the court are nothing more than partisan political hacks.   Ginsberg is no wiser than Charles Blow and no more impartial than Chuck Schumer.

If not for her and this Court  the next president would have to face checks and balances on his or her power,  as designed and intended.
142  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Liberal fascism: Thomas Sowell expains, Obama is fascist, not socialist on: July 11, 2016, 10:44:01 AM
This should be called, famous people reading the forum, where we already have a thread on this theme!

Nobody expains it better than Thomas Sowell:

It bothers me a little when conservatives call Barack Obama a "socialist." He certainly is an enemy of the free market, and wants politicians and bureaucrats to make the fundamental decisions about the economy. But that does not mean that he wants government ownership of the means of production, which has long been a standard definition of socialism.

What President Obama has been pushing for, and moving toward, is more insidious: government control of the economy, while leaving ownership in private hands. That way, politicians get to call the shots but, when their bright ideas lead to disaster, they can always blame those who own businesses in the private sector.

Politically, it is heads-I-win when things go right, and tails-you-lose when things go wrong. This is far preferable, from Obama's point of view, since it gives him a variety of scapegoats for all his failed policies, without having to use President Bush as a scapegoat all the time.

Government ownership of the means of production means that politicians also own the consequences of their policies, and have to face responsibility when those consequences are disastrous -- something that Barack Obama avoids like the plague.

Thus the Obama administration can arbitrarily force insurance companies to cover the children of their customers until the children are 26 years old. Obviously, this creates favorable publicity for President Obama. But if this and other government edicts cause insurance premiums to rise, then that is something that can be blamed on the "greed" of the insurance companies.

The same principle, or lack of principle, applies to many other privately owned businesses. It is a very successful political ploy that can be adapted to all sorts of situations.

One of the reasons why both pro-Obama and anti-Obama observers may be reluctant to see him as fascist is that both tend to accept the prevailing notion that fascism is on the political right, while it is obvious that Obama is on the political left.

Back in the 1920s, however, when fascism was a new political development, it was widely -- and correctly -- regarded as being on the political left. Jonah Goldberg's great book "Liberal Fascism" cites overwhelming evidence of the fascists' consistent pursuit of the goals of the left, and of the left's embrace of the fascists as one of their own during the 1920s.

Mussolini, the originator of fascism, was lionized by the left, both in Europe and in America, during the 1920s. Even Hitler, who adopted fascist ideas in the 1920s, was seen by some, including W.E.B. Du Bois, as a man of the left.

It was in the 1930s, when ugly internal and international actions by Hitler and Mussolini repelled the world, that the left distanced themselves from fascism and its Nazi offshoot -- and verbally transferred these totalitarian dictatorships to the right, saddling their opponents with these pariahs.

What socialism, fascism and other ideologies of the left have in common is an assumption that some very wise people -- like themselves -- need to take decisions out of the hands of lesser people, like the rest of us, and impose those decisions by government fiat.

The left's vision is not only a vision of the world, but also a vision of themselves, as superior beings pursuing superior ends. In the United States, however, this vision conflicts with a Constitution that begins, "We the People..."

That is why the left has for more than a century been trying to get the Constitution's limitations on government loosened or evaded by judges' new interpretations, based on notions of "a living Constitution" that will take decisions out of the hands of "We the People," and transfer those decisions to our betters.

The self-flattery of the vision of the left also gives its true believers a huge ego stake in that vision, which means that mere facts are unlikely to make them reconsider, regardless of what evidence piles up against the vision of the left, and regardless of its disastrous consequences.

Only our own awareness of the huge stakes involved can save us from the rampaging presumptions of our betters, whether they are called socialists or fascists. So long as we buy their heady rhetoric, we are selling our birthright of freedom.
143  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: social justice wars , SJ warriors, Violence in St. Paul MN on: July 11, 2016, 10:27:21 AM  Also is stuff about homosexuality and feminism (what does this have to do with racism against blacks?  Basically it is a radical Left organization  probably getting money from the likes of Soros and LBTG and feminist groups:

Yes.  I wondered how this overlaps with Occupy Wall Street and all the rest.  First, we are on a fight and second, it doesn't really matter what we call the fight.

A friend of a friend was at the protest in St. Paul, a white, liberal, urban, middle aged, professional, NPR donating female, wanting to do good and do right.  Friendly police enabled the protesters to block traffic on Summit Avenue in front of the Governor's Mansion.  They were protesting our Governor who incidentally agrees with them.  Meanwhile, the protest turns violent on the freeway with hate crime terrorists attacking the police and injuring 21 of them.  Strange bedfellows, we have gays and Jews siding with the Sharia Law people and we have NPR classical music donors siding with the rock and bomb throwing,  police sniper crowd.

Here is some advice to the peaceful social justice warriors who want to distance themselves from over-the-top violence:  Stop inciting them with your acceptance of a false narrative of police and racial facts and distance yourself from the hatred part of the hate crime, not just the violence.
144  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Law Enforcement on: July 10, 2016, 09:06:32 PM
the percentage of blacks fatally shot by police officers (26%) is almost exactly equal to the percentage of blacks committing violent crimes (24%). Indeed, given that the black homicide rate is around eight times the white rate, it is surprising that the portion of blacks fatally shot by policemen is not higher.
145  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: We the Well-armed People (Gun rights stuff ) Too many guns on: July 10, 2016, 07:34:28 AM
If one were to believe the liberal leftist mantra in all these.shootings stories that the underlying problem is too many guns,  you would still vote them out because their policies accomplished exactly the opposite.
146  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Low ranking soldiers convicted, Comey defense crumbles on: July 10, 2016, 07:18:44 AM
Low-ranking soldiers are convicted and sent to the brig for comparatively trivial negligence; the secretary of state is given effective immunity for an offense that was systematic and gargantuan
147  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Law Enforcement, police shooting in MN, cop identified on: July 08, 2016, 10:12:40 AM
Jeronimo Yanez
Presumed Hispanic ethnicity...?
Young, on the force 4 years, married with one child.
First police shooting in the department in 30 years.  An epidemic?

It is hard to take the police side of this when we are not told the police side of this.

Our governor says it was race.  It wouldn't have happened if Castile wasn't black.  What happened?  What wouldn't have happened?  The officer knew there was a woman and child also in the car.  Either the officer is completely nuts or there is more to this story.
148  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / #1 cause of death of young black me is , , , young black men on: July 08, 2016, 09:46:45 AM
Number one cause of death of young black men, 15-34?

Murder by young black men, 15-34.
149  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Pathological Science on: July 08, 2016, 09:11:16 AM
And every ill now to man, the world is now due to global warming now know as climate change one of our biggest industries to make a fortune from.  Just ask Al when he is not chasing massage therapists around a cubicle like a wolf in heat.

Warming temps in Antarctica cause more snowfall.  But not elsewhere?  Warming doesn't cause more melting too?

But snow cover mitigates warming trend.

Antarctic Ice hits new record maximum:

The area of North America covered in snow has increased in the last 30 years.  Who knew?

You heard about this where else, NY Times, MSNBC, nowhere??

CO2 emissions are continuous.  Warming is not.  Is there something else going on here?
Not just the science and the media are biased, google search results too!

The "ever-thickening blanket wrapped around the planet" consists of CO2 levels of one part per 2500, a 0.0004 concentration of atmospheric CO2, just slightly above the minimum in earth's history. 

If CO2 levels were falling continuously instead, plant life, and eventually all life, would cease to exist.
150  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Cop Killings of Blacks down 75% in 45 years; black families, Larry Elder on: July 08, 2016, 08:58:32 AM
Larry Elder: Cop killings of blacks are DOWN 75% in 45 yrs. Of 965 people killed by cops 2015, less than 4% were white cop/unarmed black male.

President Obama, "children who grow up without a father are five times more likely to live in poverty and commit crime"

72% of black kids raised w/o dads.

Doug says:  This is a direct result of the 'war on poverty' programs that put a disincentive on the responsibility of Dads in families susceptible to these programs to marry and stay and support and raise their children.

    * 63 percent of youth suicides are from fatherless homes
    * 90 percent of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes
    * 71 percent of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes
    * 75 percent of all adolescent patients in chemical-abuse centers come from fatherless homes
    * 85 percent of all youths in prison come from fatherless homes
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