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51  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Journal of Political Science, Epic Correction on: June 10, 2016, 08:22:05 AM
This is the journal that published a finding much beloved of liberals a few years back that purported to find scientific evidence that conservatives are more likely to exhibit traits associated with psychoticism, such as authoritarianism and tough-mindedness, and that the supposed “authoritarian” personality of conservatives might even have a genetic basis (and therefore be treatable someday?).

The authors regret that there is an error in the published version of “Correlation not Causation: The Relationship between Personality Traits and Political Ideologies” American Journal of Political Science 56 (1), 34–51. The interpretation of the coding of the political attitude items in the descriptive and preliminary analyses portion of the manuscript was exactly reversed.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/06/epic-correction-of-the-decade.php
52  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / U.S. Taxpayers Are Funding Iran's Military Expansion on: June 10, 2016, 08:08:50 AM
http://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-06-09/u-s-taxpayers-are-funding-iran-s-military-expansion

U.S. Taxpayers Are Funding Iran's Military Expansion
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JUNE 9, 2016 6:00 AM EDT
By
Eli Lake
One of the unexpected results of President Barack Obama's new opening to Iran is that U.S. taxpayers are now funding both sides of the Middle East's arms race. The U.S. is deliberately subsidizing defense spending for allies like Egypt and Israel. Now the U.S. is inadvertently paying for some of Iran's military expenditures as well.

UNEXPECTED?
53  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Cognitive Dissonance of the left - minimum wage Oregon on: June 10, 2016, 08:01:15 AM
Democrats, who control the state House, Senate and governor’s office, [passed the following minimum wage law"]
Wages will rise to $12.50 in rural Oregon, $13.50 in mid-size regions and $14.75 in greater Portland, all by the year 2022.

Are they saying there isn't one wage that works best for all no matter the age, industry of location?

Then there's  this: 

state analysts concluded in a prepared forecast the high wage will “result in approximately 40,000 fewer jobs in 2025 than would have been the case absent the legislation.”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/06/10/minimum-wage-maximum-mess-in-oregon.html


The cost of "progress", fewer people working, more needing assistance.  Who knew?


54  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Steelers coach to host Hillary fundraiser on: June 10, 2016, 07:32:49 AM
EDC= Empress Dowager of Chappaqua

Dowager:  Power derived from her husband.

From Chappaqua, her hometown, lol.  She was in government housing so long she couldn't remember where she's from.  She didn't want to go back to Chicago or Little Rock and DC doesn't have Senators.
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Trump hopes western PA is Trump country.  Meanwhile, Pittsburgh Steelers coach Mike Tomlin and his wife, Kiya, a fashion designer, will host a private fundraiser for Clinton at their home Tuesday afternoon. According to an invitation, attendees will donate $10,000 to $34,000 each to hear Clinton discuss her (indictments?) candidacy.
http://triblive.com/news/allegheny/10600024-74/pittsburgh-trump-rally

Sorry, I don't associate Steelers fans with Hillary supporters.
55  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Cog Diss of the left, A Day Late to Nominate the First Woman President? on: June 08, 2016, 12:47:46 PM
What a bummer for the left to make this historic nomination, the first woman to win a major party nomination for President, the day after we abandoned the old gender distinctions of 'man' and 'woman'. 

Even if femininity was still a recognizable quality, she has no more of it than any President prior. 

56  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: June 08, 2016, 12:32:48 PM
Seconding Crafty's comments [deeply discouraged, f*ct], only worse.

"Unless we are saved by the FBI,..."

No, not even that.  On the Dem side, they couldn't be more crippled already.  No matter what happens on their side we are still stuck without a candidate and without a possibility of ever re-uniting the movement without just selling out to principle that at least for me are not my own.

I predicted, Hillary will not run, will not win the nomination if she runs and will not be elected if nominated.  Further I predicted that Trump would never win the Republican nomination and could never be the strongest candidate to run against Hillary or other leftist.

i was right on all the underlying facts.  Her scandals blew up in her face, her corruption has been fully exposed and her weaknesses as a candidate have been on full display.

On the other side, Trump was so bad people started to accept the Senate's most conservative member as the centrist compromise.  All of what we feared to be bad about Trump came true.

If Hillary were handcuffed, hauled off, locked up and held without bail, it wouldn't solve a single one of our problems.  She would still win or Bernie or Biden etc would in her place.  We are stuck without a leader and without an acceptable candidate to represent our interests with 5 months to go before the election.  That means we are screwed for more than 4 years, probably more than 8 years, for the rest of our lifetimes and likely forever - not to be overly negative about it.

On my bet with ccp, it is time for me to concede.  You were right.  You didn't want to be right but your were right.  I think I will send you my bank transfer codes and you can take what I owe before the big crony government ruling uni-party takes the rest.
57  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Economics on: June 08, 2016, 12:06:59 PM
Have a great trip and camp.  We aren't very far apart on this.

"Part of the answer has to do with what happens when a hostile fascist state e.g. China, targets certain sectors (e.g. rare earth minerals) for geo-political military considerations.  Russian control over Euro natural gas would be another example."

"Part of the answer has to do with the predatory pricing of fascist states.  Yes in the long run this is unsound, but in the long run we are all dead."


On the first part from my point of view, national security is always a valid reason to interrupt free trade.  Freeze assets, cancel purchases, block trade, all are legitimate if national security is the valid reason.  But that is the exception and it doesn't mean, from my point of view, that 'managed' trade in general is an acceptable alternative, economically or in terms of liberty, to free trade.

Each of those examples, China rare earth elements and Russia natural gas warfare, are great topics to dive into later when time permits.  How do we address those?

On the second part, dealing with fascist states, I guess the same applies.  How do we best address that?  If we are going to violate our own principles in our trade policies, then our express purpose in a range of policies should be to bring about the end of that fascism and those policies, not to move us in the permanent direction of government managed trade.

I don't buy the premise that China can gain on us by devaluing and under-pricing.  Anti-trust violations, copyright theft etc are obvious exceptions to that and should be aggressively dealt with .
58  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / 2016 Pres, Gary Johnson, Bill Weld, Libertarians blew a great opportunity on: June 08, 2016, 10:32:32 AM
Libertarians are running a ticket with two, two-term Republican Governors.  With Hillary and Trump at maximum, historic disapproval this should be the year and the opportunity to set up a real alternative.  But they refuse to offer any possibility of merging with conservatives to offer a real alternative.

i learned through Ron Paul and Rand Paul foreign policies that liberty is for people who already have it. Screw those who don't even though we received significant outside intervention to gain our own freedom.

How about the liberty of the unborn or the person who chooses to not participate in a gay wedding.  Oops, no liberty or 'pro-choice' for them.
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Is This Where Libertarians Say Goodbye to Conservatives?
To right-wingers, Gary Johnson's embrace of "social liberalism" negates his pledge to "sign off on any reduction in the federal government."
Nick Gillespie|Jun. 7, 2016

http://reason.com/blog/2016/06/07/is-this-where-libertarians-say-goodbye-t
59  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Hill on inequality on: June 08, 2016, 10:11:49 AM

1. She is the world's worst possible choice for spokesperson of that cause.  Total hypocrisy.

2. She is doing it only to pander to Bernie-type voters.  It's not something that bother's her.  Obviously she's comfortable hanging with the 1%, guarding their interests, being one of them.

3. The substance and content of that position needs to be called out and soundly defeated regardless.  For example, please see Larry Elder, On Inequality, http://dogbrothers.com/phpBB2/index.php?topic=1023.msg96504#msg96504
The idea that we can 'defeat' inequality is nonsense.

4. Recognize this for what it is, one of those magical domestic issues like poverty, racism, homelessness, that the worse they can make it, the more we need them to 'do more'.  This is right out of whatever leftist playbook you may follow, Alinsky, Ayers, Carville, Reich.

5.  The math and facts behind the issue are worse than for climate change.  Everything from Census Data that excludes the income of the poor to Thomas Piketty's flawed studies are manufactured for deception and thoroughly debunked IMHO on these pages in the forum.

6.  If we has total and complete economic equality, as much as it is possible, we would all be poor and power would still be concentrated in the hands of less than the 1%.  See Chavez, Maduro, Castro, Breznev, Kim Jong-un.
60  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The War on Drugs on: June 07, 2016, 09:33:59 AM
"Oh. So it is a matter of scale.  Well then what is the point of drug cartels moving to Colorado then?"


I suppose that because it is only a matter of scale, neighbors getting a whiff of it might be less inclined to make a complaint of it.  G M might know better whether any collection of these anecdotal stories means there is more activity coming in than otherwise would.  One of his points is that 'legalization' did not make the illegal activities cease.  I think the perception of legalization is giving the state a friendlier perception attracting these types, cartels and young males not tied to the traditional responsibilities of job, marriage and mortgage.  But if law enforcement is up to the task, that lure becomes a trap.  Serving a federal felony time in Colo won't be much different or better than serving it in Florida or wherever else.
61  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Donald Trump on: June 07, 2016, 09:22:28 AM
I read PP post about Trumps comments on the judge.   Sometimes it is not what you say but HOW you say it.  He [Trump] states things sometimes as clumsily and crudely as possible which rather than making his legitimate points does nothing but embolden his enemies.

Right.  There was a point to be made against this judge and his politics and Trump bungled it.  Trump thinks he is immune from the laws of political correctness, but his detractors already think he is a racist and he keeps giving more and more people reason to think that is true. 

The judge didn't come across the border yesterday.  His parents came, legally, in the 1940s and he was born in Indiana 1300 miles from the border.  If there is a case to be made, it is the judge's politics in question, not his heritage. 

In fact, what Trump was doing was trying to defeat his competition again by public, verbal bullying.  That appeals to some and not to others. 

Byron York has a good take on it today:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-trump-self-destructive-rambling-baffles-gop-strategists/article/2593163

Trump spent 10 minutes on this in a San Diego speech bringing it back, unnecessarily, into the campaign.  More time than he spent on jobs, military issues or anything else.  York quotes the entire 10 minutes at the end of his column and it is rambling.  Forget what his point was, being able to speak well without notes or script is quite a skill.  Rambling on is not.  If I was there to find out how to make America Great Again, I would have been miserably disappointed.

Add to that his Reagan comparisons.  Reagan got three things done by doggedly keeping his focus on his short list of three things he wanted to get done.  And when he got them done, the US and the world were safer and more prosperous.  Trump's three things are get elected, insult others, and I don't know for sure what else.
62  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Foreign drug cartels come to Colorado on: June 07, 2016, 09:04:09 AM
"Local authorities in Pueblo, just 40 miles south of Colorado Springs, were recently alerted by a vigilant resident to a possible illegal marijuana grow operation. Within days, on March 31, sheriff’s deputies from the Special Investigations Narcotics Section raided a single-family home that was in the process of being converted into a "grow house." Authorities discovered 127 marijuana plants, over $100,000 in growing equipment, and two Cuban nationals.

At first, no one seemed to take particular note of the individuals, Adriel Trujillo Daniel, 28, and Leosbel Ledesma Quintana, 41, who had recently moved to Colorado from Florida. They were arrested on felony drug charges but local authorities initially believed it was an isolated event."


Kind of an obvious point, what they were doing is NOT legal in Colorado, keywords illegal and felony drug charges.

100k of equipment involves heavy electric usage that is detectable in a rapid leap on the utility bill.  If law enforcement doesn't know about it, Xcel Energy does.  Large grow houses are visible on infrared aerial photography.  (Freedom from Electric usage monitoring and aerial photography are two areas of liberty I assume we already lost!) 127 flowering plants have to breathe and 'exhale'.  With the right breeze, the neighbors know they live next to a large floral garden.

You are allowed 6 plants (in Colo), which if done widely and sold or shared in moderation with friends (illegally) would serve to take the wind out of the sails of the cartels at least on this one drug.  Beyond 6 plants, I would assume the electrical alterations required are all illegal and break residential zoning laws etc beyond the original violation.  Like the mafia, they are also breaking tax laws.

G M would know better than me, but I think it is a law enforcement choice of how hard to hunt down illegal grow operations and prosecute them.  My main point is that what is described here is no more legal in Colo than in a non-'legalized' state.

There is a contention between state and federal laws in Colo.  What the state should do in compromise to the dispute is hand over all the activity that goes beyond the limits of Colorado law to the Feds.  Use the personal level legalization as a trap for cartel activity, especially the inter-state and international types.  I don't think Colo wants to be safe haven for this.  The question that still remains is whether our open border Feds want to enforce or prosecute the laws either.
63  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Grannis on free trade on: June 06, 2016, 04:41:21 PM

"nearly all economists agree that free trade, by expanding the size of the market to enable greater specialization and economies of scale, generates more wealth than any system that restricts cross-border exchange."

   - I would like to hear your view on this.


"Consider Apple. By availing itself of lowskilled, low-wage labor in China to produce small plastic components and to assemble its products, Apple may have deprived U.S. workers of the opportunity to perform that low-end function in the supply chain..."

   - this is a great, current example.  I was going to cut it there and say, we could require US workers to build it and then the number built would be zero as the phones would need to be so expensive.  Same point, but they answered it better than I could:

"...But at the same time, that decision enabled iPods and then iPhones and then iPads to be priced within the budgets of a large swath of consumers. Had all of the components been produced and all of the assembly performed in the United States — as President Obama once requested of Steve Jobs — the higher prices would have prevented those devices from becoming quite so ubiquitous, and the incentives for the emergence of spin-off industries, such as apps, accessories, Uber, and AirBnb, would have been muted or absent."


What is the alternative to free trade that works better?  Government managed trade?  Government targeted trade?  We will get tougher on their products and services entering and they won't get tougher on ours?  Government will stay benevolent and not be corrupted by cronyism as it picks winners and losers?  I don't think so on all counts.  
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Smoot Hawley data (Smoot Hawley was not the only factor, but telling IMO):  
Smoot Hawley raised tariffs on 20,000 items by 6.3% to 19.8%.
Imports fell 66%, exports fell 61%  
GDP fell over 25%.
64  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Donald Trump on: June 06, 2016, 01:45:21 PM
Doug:
Thanks for bringing Pat's piece to our attention.  Pretty impressive I thought!

I think he was linking/quoting another author's piece but he is also writing his own series on the case and the judge.
65  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Economics, Universal Basic Income on: June 06, 2016, 01:42:21 PM
"First, my big caveat: A UBI will do the good things I claim only if it replaces all other transfer payments and the bureaucracies that oversee them. If the guaranteed income is an add-on to the existing system, it will be as destructive as its critics fear."

Also, he begins: "Replacing the welfare state with ..."

I oppose a new gigantic program because it WON'T replace all other programs.  The politics of this isn't that simple.  For example, the left doesn't actually want to solve the problem and the right isn't going to embrace a new $2 trillion program either.   Still I like the thought process.  We need to find ways to help those in need and reform our basic safety net WITHOUT all the disincentives to produce that we currently put on both the payers and the recipients.

It is a sign of how bad our current system is to know that paying everyone, need it or not, 13k/year is better.

People on the edge of working more and not working for money often face real, marginal tax rates greater than 100%.  The Unaffordable Healthcare Act puts all our previous disincentive to work problems on steroids.
66  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential, Stephens, Trump on: June 06, 2016, 12:24:11 PM
Bret Stephens analysis is profoundly flawed.  Losing 3-5 SCOTUS picks to Hillary would be a catastrophe from which this country would not recover.

That's right about Hillary, but what about Trump? 

Electing another big government Republican (in name only) is ALSO something from which we will never recover.  Trump already defeated and destroyed the movement of which I was a part.  Win or lose for Trump, limited government conservatism is gone.  And now what the opponents say is true, that Republicans are the party of the rich, support cronyism for the powerful, favor special treatment for their own, hate minorities, want to pick winners and losers, etc.  How do we come back from that and how long will it take?  We can't; it won't happen in our lifetimes. 

In words only and putting her record aside, Hillary has a better grasp of US foreign policy than Trump.  He is clearly running to her left on foreign policy , and trade policy! He may win on both, good for him, but we lose IMHO.

Trump issued a list of acceptable, conservative judges that fully support my principles (and yours most likely).  Great, but what if he appoints Justices that support HIS views, that government knows best in terms of (non-existent) property right, no limits on takings or picking economic winners and losers with preferences and targeted, punitive taxes and regulations?  Uphold all of that over protecting property rights and equal protection under the law and what have we gained?  Nothing I can see.

I moved just recently to where G M has.  It is too late to save the country.  We already upheld the idea forcing us to buy government mandated "insurance".  We already ruled that it is fine for the federal government to prohibit growing your own grain on your own property to feed your own animals.  No one still in the race thinks that went too far, is outrageous.  We already upheld the power of state and local governments to take private property for preferred private property interests.  We already re-defined marriage i the Courts.  We already allow the federal government to run roughshod over all formerly private industries, to set payroll rules for people at the top, middle and bottom of the pay scale - in the "private sector"!  Sorry but no one still in the race is running against any of this.  Our side is represented by the guy who will build the best and biggest government we have ever seen!

Meanwhile, we also blew off the idea of holding the Senate.  That has something to do with Supreme Court appointments too!  Which Justice on the Trump good list gets confirmed in a Shumer-Durbin Senate? 
67  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Trump and the Judge on: June 06, 2016, 11:47:17 AM
Hat tip, (our own) Pat Pulatie, Hotgas.net
https://www.hotgas.net/2016/06/trump-and-the-judge/
http://journalofamericangreatness.blogspot.com/2016/06/trump-and-judge.html
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My view:
Trump University was a rip off.  Still, the lawsuit is most likely frivolous.  Anyone who bought Trump's book, which is no doubt all of them, (and had they read it objectively) knew they would learn nothing helpful from these programs.  Anyone who bought the first program and paid attention should know they would learn nothing.  Still I have no regrets if some judge or jury awards the fools their money back.  The whole product was a farce.  Yet many graduates of this type of program want the certificate for what its worth to go forth and BS others.  They learned as victims how to separate fools from their money.

The Judge's parents were Americans.  Before that they were Mexicans who came here legally and got citizenship long before the Judge was born.  No illegal status or anchor baby issue exists in his family that I can see.

The Judge honored illegal immigrants, he likely supports Obama, and he brags of his Mexican ties maybe more so than his American pride.  Had Trump jumped on his views instead of his heritage, then his attack might have been fair.  If that what he was doing, he bugled it.  Trump did attack him for bias, but allowed his comments to be taken as on his heritage instead of his views.

Trump's history that he can get away with saying anything is not always going to be helpful to his choice of future comments.  He needs a wider base to win 270 electoral votes than he needed when he started to win a plurality in a divided field in one party.

Trump appears to be putting the interests of winning his lawsuit ahead of winning the Presidency.  He is trying to influence the Judge's next decision by attacking him, but forgot he was running for President?  Just like the media and the electorate, Trump is easily distracted.

Meanwhile we head into summer talking about shiny objects instead of a focus on reigning in our runaway government. 

One more example of why Donald Trump is not Reagan and is not my choice for President.

68  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Boom time for Regulators, Investors Business Daily on: June 06, 2016, 10:59:17 AM
If private sector jobs grew at the same rate as regulator jobs under Obama, 3.7 million more people would be working.



http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/its-boomtime-for-regulators-under-obama-while-economy-flatlines/
69  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential - Dem nomination on: June 06, 2016, 10:50:19 AM
Prediction: Bernie will eek out a win in California but Hillary will clinch the nomination (In NJ) before the polls close in Calif.

Obama administration could make that more interesting by indicting Hillary on the same day hoping to help her 'get that behind her'.   Okay, that is 'not likely' but they are running out of time.  What are they going to do, announce the results of the investigation after the election?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/axelrod-clinton-will-clinch-nomination-before-the-polls-close-in-california/
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/clinton-will-likely-clinch-the-democratic-nomination-in-new-jersey/
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/bernie-sanders-leads-hillary-clinton-new-poll-california

Funny that Trump clinched first in a field of 17 than Hillary over Bernie, but after tomorrow that is a footnote in history.

The conventions are only about a month out.  Republicans go first.  Hillary sees Trump's running mate choice first before announcing hers.
70  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Bureaucracy, Fourth Branch: EPA versus Colorado Town (Silverton) on: June 06, 2016, 10:29:05 AM
This is a sad and scary big government story.  Good for Daily Caller for not letting this drop.  As with all Obama scandals, why was no one arrested, fired, etc.?  Why do we not hold those even higher accountable?  A right wing, free market President might have been impeached over this, negligently releasing 880,000 pounds of toxic chemicals, a 3 million gallon release, into our rivers and streams polluting 3 states and the Navajo nation.

The EPA wanted complete control of this area by designating it against the will of the locals a Superfund cleanup site,.  Now they have won through their own deadly error.

The old saying that you don't fight city hall is so last century.  This is more like fighting the Chinese Communist Party backed by People's Liberation Army than it is like fighting your local city hall.  Not exactly the EPA that 1970s Republicans envisioned when they created it (and appointed my cousin to be the nation's first director of water quality).  
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http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/05/epa-pollutes-river-uses-scare-tactics-to-take-control-of-a-colorado-town/

EPA Pollutes River, Uses Scare Tactics To Take Control Of A Colorado Town

ETHAN BARTON
9:55 PM 06/05/2016
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EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy and Gold King Mine. (Reuters)   EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy and Gold King Mine. (Reuters)

A decades-long battle between federal environmental officials and a small Colorado town is about to end in the government’s favor, thanks to the agency-caused Gold King Mine spill disaster, a Daily Caller News Foundation investigation has found.

Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) representatives have focused intently on Silverton, Colorado since the mid-1990s, accumulating evidence — and sometimes using scare tactics — to persuade residents to drop their opposition to a Superfund designation for the surrounding region.

Residents surrendered to federal demands only after an EPA work-crew turned the nearby Animas River bright yellow for nearly a week by releasing a three-million-gallon flood of acidic mine waste under extremely questionable circumstances in August 2015.

Suspended in the flood was 880,000 pounds of toxic metals, including lead and arsenic, that poured into the river that supplies drinking water for people living in three states and the Navajo Nation. The mine is just upstream from Silverton.

“After more than two decades working in the region, they still couldn’t get it right,” said Rep. Rob Bishop told The Daily Caller News Foundation. “EPA created a man-made disaster harming numerous states and tribes. The combination of a lack of due diligence and a half-baked plan directly led to the August 5 blowout.”

Bishop, a Utah Republican, condemned EPA for being “incompetent, evasive and deceitful,” adding that “if this wasn’t criminal negligence, it should be.”

The disaster was the last straw that convinced locals to reverse their decades-long opposition and allow the EPA to go forward in designating the region for Superfund listing – a designation the agency reserves only for the nation’s most polluted sites.

Once the designation becomes official, EPA will assume vast new powers throughout the region. But EPA has been encroaching on residents’ lives going back to at least 1994, with more than a few memorable episodes along the way.

In one such instance, EPA officials abruptly announced at a town meeting they needed to test soil for pollution at a local school.

“The Town Board was somewhat blindsided by your request,” San Juan County Commissioners and the Town of Silverton Board of Trustees told EPA in an April 2014 letter. “The County Commissioner [sic] were not even informed that the EPA would be addressing the Town.”

“However, the biggest flaw in the process was bringing the School District into the discussion without talking directly with the School Superintendent,” the local officials said in the letter, which was obtained by the House panel.

“The Superintendent spent the next day on damage control informing the community that an environmental review of the school grounds had been completed and nothing was found that would raise health concerns.”

Town and county officials also questioned the necessity of soil testing because previous samples “didn’t raise any significant red flags” and they were “unaware of any medical studies or individual cases where the soils have had an adverse impact on a child or adult’s health. We have generation after generation after generation that have lived most or all of their lives in Silverton without suffering any health-related issues from their long-term exposure to the mineralized soils.”

The officials claimed that “despite the minimum justification, EPA managed to maximize the fears in parents, as well as raise concerns for property owners.”

Local officials also wondered if EPA representatives who spoke with residents “were really listening to our concerns, if they were listening but they did not understand how critical those concerns are, or did they listen to our concerns but determined that the EPA knows what is better for Silverton and San Juan County than we do.”

Regardless, another letter obtained by TheDCNF, showed that less than a year later, EPA, joined by the U.S. Bureau of Land Management and the Colorado Department of Health & Environment, compelled a nearby mine owner to conduct studies normally done only after a Superfund designation is received.

Numerous agencies “all have expended substantial efforts and resources in defining the problems” in the region around Silverton, said the January 2015 letter to Sunnyside Gold Corporation. “Furthermore, the agencies are continuing to commit resources to characterize the extent and magnitude of contamination in other parts of the Upper Animas River Watershed.”

The letter said EPA would use Superfund authority to work at the nearby Red and Bonita Mine. The agency has also used the Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation and Liability Act (CERLCA) – the Superfund law – to force other area mine owners to grant EPA officials access to their properties. (RELATED: Gold King Mine Owner Fears EPA’s ‘Limitless Legal Budget’)

How EPA has used Superfund authority against Silverton exemplifies the inability of local residents to resist the federal agency when it is determined to have its way.

The first goal of the Animas River Stakeholders Group that was formed in 1994 to protect the environment from abandoned mines was to “keep CERCLA out.” The EPA not only blocked accomplishment of that goal, it also thwarted local efforts to cleanup the region’s environment.

“It definitely has taken the wind out of our sails,” group official Peter Butler told The Denver Post in May. “It’s uncertain what the Animas River Stakeholder Group’s future will be.”
71  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Trump damage to Republicans, all is already lost on: June 06, 2016, 09:59:32 AM
From 2016 Presidential and WSJ Bret Stephens statement:
This is certainly a possibility that Trump could do so much damage that he would in the long game screw it up for good for Republicans.

With the nomination of Trump, I already see the permanent loss of my economic viewpoint of economic freedom and limited government.  We lost at least half of the so-called right and all of the center and left.  Not much of a reason left to pick up the pieces.

The right is divided and the misguided on economic issues won.  Go to a pro-Trump site and read the comments sections.  Trump voters HATE Cruz, Rubio and most of the others.  Where Reagan tolerated government protectionism is emergency exception situations, Trump big government advocates label those in favor of a dynamic economic based on economic freedom, "free traitors".  

Like Suzette Kelo's and Vera Coking's houses, Trump supporters are full force behind the new government knows best movement supposedly on the right.  This is not the exception to his view; it is the centerpiece.  I will not compare Trump to the German leader with the mustache, but his most enthusiastic supporters certainly remind me of zeal and false righteousness of those in the early days of that movement.

With Trump I am stuck with a) his message to Indiana, they lost their jobs due to free trade competition, not mismanagement at home, and b) the world would be more stable if we let Saddam Hussein continue his reign of tyranny and pursuit of nuclear weapons.

Hillary Clinton knows we can't afford all her ideas and that Presidential popularity is tied to economic growth.  

How either one would govern is a complete mystery.

Trump may stumble into success in foreign policy even though his words have been nonsense.  HRC may realize that big government requires a big private sector to fund it.

Neither candidate remotely resembles my economic or foreign policy views.

Add to that Trump's temperament, the latest example slamming a judge from Indiana for his heritage.  If Trump stumbles because of that, the support for his misguided policies lives on.

Add in a Bill Kristol style third party candidate.  The most he or she could do is pick off a couple of so called red states, ensure a HRC victory and take all the blame.

All is already lost.
72  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: US-China (& Japan, South China Sea-- Vietnam, Philippines, etc) on: June 05, 2016, 11:14:45 PM
$5 TRILLION worth of goods per year go through the Taiwan to Sin gapore Sea every year while China is tryig to turn it into their own militarized lake.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/05/asia/china-admiral-south-china-sea/index.html

http://www.wsj.com/articles/calls-for-china-to-respect-maritime-claim-ruling-grow-louder-1465012976

http://www.jurist.org/paperchase/2016/06/china-to-ignore-un-ruling-concerning-the-south-china-sea.php
73  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Bret Stephens WSJ: Hillary more surivable than Trump on: June 05, 2016, 11:07:17 PM
Bret Stephens, WSJ Pulitzer Prize winner who I admire very much and agree with on almost everthig, maybe not this, says Hillary ight be more survivable than Trump:

The best hope for what’s left of a serious conservative movement in America is the election in November of a Democratic president, held in check by a Republican Congress. Conservatives can survive liberal administrations, especially those whose predictable failures lead to healthy restorations—think Carter, then Reagan. What isn’t survivable is a Republican president who is part Know Nothing, part Smoot-Hawley and part John Birch. The stain of a Trump administration would cripple the conservative cause for a generation.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary-the-conservative-hope-1462833870
74  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / What was in the documents Sandy Burglar took? on: June 05, 2016, 08:24:35 PM
I read this too, [Hillary college kickbacks].  I just do not see the law enforced as it obviously should be and her taken away in handcuffs.
Some sort of plea or other type of  deal is probably already planned the second tier option behind the JD simply finding some other way not to go after her.

Obamster is out in force for her and his ideology.  He like Clintons will just never go away.

Agree.  All we can do is spread the word ourselves.
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What was in the documents Sandy Burglar took?

This is getting more and more relevant.
(Hard to believe he died in Dec 2025.  Something in the water?)

Rush L:
you know what those documents contained? Elements of evidence that Al-Qaeda was in the country in 1999! It's all part of this millennium plot that the Clinton administration tried to take a lot of credit for stopping when in fact it was just good police work by a single Customs agent. It was not the result of any directive.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2006/12/21/what_was_in_documents_sandy_burglar

75  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders greeted by Oaxacafornias on: June 05, 2016, 08:18:52 PM
http://www.breitbart.com/california/2016/06/05/welcome-to-oaxacafornia-latinos-for-bernie-sanders-town-hall-in-los-angeles/
76  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Russia to Build Leader-Class Destroyer That Will Outgun Largest US Warships on: June 05, 2016, 08:12:48 PM
Russia to Build Leader-Class Destroyer That Will Outgun Largest US Warships

http://sputniknews.com/military/20160605/1040814482/russia-leader-class-destroyer.html#ixzz4Al1MxSUf


At this point, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE.
77  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Networks cover GOrilla 6 times more than ISIS Mass Christian Beheadings on: June 05, 2016, 08:10:53 PM
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/katie-yoder/2016/06/02/nets-cover-gorilla-death-6x-more-mass-christian-beheading

21 Christians beheaded by ISIS for their faith --- whatever.
78  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Hillary Clinton can't say right to bear arms is a constitutional right on: June 05, 2016, 08:05:37 PM
She is a lawyer, right?
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/06/05/watch-hillary-refuses-say-right-to-bear-arms-is-a-constitutional-right/

Sunday on ABC’s “This Week,” Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton refused to say conclusively the Second Amendment is a constitutional right and that it “is subject to reasonable regulations.”

Partial transcript as follows:

STEPHANOPOULOS:  Let’s talk about the Second Amendment. As you know Donald Trump has been out on the stump talking about the Second Amendment saying you want ti abolish the Second Amendment. I know you reject that but a specific question, do you believe an individual’s right to bear arms is a Constitutional right, that it’s not linked to service in a militia?

CLINTON: I think that for most of our history there was a nuanced reading of the Second Amendment until the decision by the late Justice Scalia and there was no argument until then that localities and states and the federal government had a right as we do with every Amendment to impose reasonable regulations. So I believe we can have commonsense gun safety measures consistent with the Second Amendment. And, in fact, what I have proposed is supported by 90% of the American people and more than 75% of responsible gun owners. So that is exactly what I think is Constitutionally permissible. And once again, you have Donald Trump just making outright fabrications accusing me of something that is absolutely untrue. But I’m going to continue to speak out for comprehensive background check, closing the gun show loophole, closing the online loophole, closing the so-called Charleston loophole, reversing the bill that Senator Sanders voted for and I voted against giving immunity from liability to gun makers and sellers. I think all of that can and should be done and it is in my view consistent with the Constitution.

STEPHANOPOULOS:  And the Heller decision also says there can be some restricts but that’s not what I asked. Do you believe their conclusion an individual’s right to bear arms is a Constitutional right?

CLINTON: If it is a Constitutional right, then it like every other Constitutional right is subject to reasonable regulations. And what people have done with that decision is to take it as far as they possibly can and reject what has been our history from the very beginning of the republic where some of the earliest laws were about firearms. So I think it’s important to recognize that reasonable people can say as i do responsible gun owners have a right — I have no objection to that — but the rest of the American public has a right to require certain kinds of regulatory, responsible actions to protect everyone else.”


79  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Energy technology: Increase Lithium-air battery life 5-fold? on: June 05, 2016, 08:00:37 PM
http://www.nature.com/articles/nenergy201666
The discovery of effective catalysts is an important step towards achieving Li–O2 batteries with long cycle life and high round-trip efficiency. Soluble-type catalysts or redox mediators (RMs) possess great advantages over conventional solid catalysts, generally exhibiting much higher efficiency. Here, we select a series of organic RM candidates as a model system to identify the key descriptor in determining the catalytic activities and stabilities in Li–O2 cells. It is revealed that the level of ionization energies, readily available parameters from a database of the molecules, can serve such a role when comparing with the formation energy of Li2O2 and the highest occupied molecular orbital energy of the electrolyte. It is demonstrated that they are critical in reducing the overpotential and improving the stability of Li–O2 cells, respectively. Accordingly, we propose a general principle for designing feasible catalysts and report a RM, dimethylphenazine, with a remarkably low overpotential and high stability.

A University of Texas at Dallas researcher has made a discovery that could open the door to cellphone and car batteries that last five times longer than current ones.  Dr. Kyeongjae Cho, professor of materials science and engineering..has discovered new catalyst materials for lithium-air batteries that jumpstart efforts at expanding battery capacity. The research was published in Nature Energy.  (above)

Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2016-05-discovery-door-cellphone-car-batteries.html#jCp

http://phys.org/news/2016-05-discovery-door-cellphone-car-batteries.html
80  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Gender, Gay, Lesbian on: June 05, 2016, 07:47:10 PM
Doug,
Where does one go if they are Q?

You know.  Now it is LBGTQ!

31 Genders recognized in NYC and I don't think they're making fun of an ice cream store.

I can name 2 of them and neither starts with L,B,G,T or Q.

https://heatst.com/culture-wars/here-are-the-31-gender-identities-new-york-city-recognizes/
81  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Clinton took $16.46 Million from Colleges, State Dept. Funneled $55 million back on: June 05, 2016, 07:42:15 PM
Hillary University: Bill Clinton Bagged $16.46 Million from For-Profit College as State Dept. Funneled $55 Million Back

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/06/02/hillary-university-bill-clinton-bagged-16-46-million-from-for-profit-college-as-state-dept-funneled-55-million-back/

With her campaign sinking in the polls, Hillary Clinton has launched a desperate attack against Trump University to deflect attention away from her deep involvement with a controversial for-profit college that made the Clintons millions, even as the school faced serious legal scrutiny and criminal investigations.
In April 2015, Bill Clinton was forced to abruptly resign from his lucrative perch as honorary chancellor of Laureate Education, a for-profit college company. The reason for Clinton’s immediate departure: Clinton Cash revealed, and Bloomberg confirmed, that Laureate funneled Bill Clinton $16.46 million over five years while Hillary Clinton’s State Dept. pumped at least $55 million to a group run by Laureate’s founder and chairman, Douglas Becker, a man with strong ties to the Clinton Global Initiative. Laureate has donated between $1 million and $5 million (donations are reported in ranges, not exact amounts) to the Clinton Foundation. Progressive billionaire George Soros is also a Laureate financial backer.

As the Washington Post reports, “Laureate has stirred controversy throughout Latin America, where it derives two-thirds of its revenue.” During Bill Clinton’s tenure as Laureate’s chancellor, the school spent over $200 million a year on aggressive telemarketing, flashy Internet banner ads, and billboards designed to lure often unprepared students from impoverished countries to enroll in its for-profit classes. The goal: get as many students, regardless of skill level, signed up and paying tuition.

“I meet people all the time who transfer here when they flunk out elsewhere,” agronomy student Arturo Bisono, 25, told the Post. “This has become the place you go when no one else will accept you.”

Others, like Rio state legislator Robson Leite who led a probe into Bill Clinton’s embattled for-profit education scheme, say the company is all about extracting cash, not educating students. “They have turned education into a commodity that focuses more on profit than knowledge,” said Leite.

Progressives have long excoriated for-profit education companies for placing profits over quality pedagogy. Still, for five years, Bill Clinton allowed his face and name to be plastered all over Laureate’s marketing materials. As Clinton Cash reported, pictures of Bill Clinton even lined the walkways at campuses like Laureate’s Bilgi University in Istanbul, Turkey. That Laureate has campuses in Turkey is odd, given that for-profit colleges are illegal there, as well as in Mexico and Chile where Laureate also operates.

Shortly after Bill Clinton’s lucrative 2010 Laureate appointment, Hillary Clinton’s State Dept. began pumping millions of its USAID dollars to a sister nonprofit, International Youth Foundation (IYF), which is run by Laureate’s founder and chairman, Douglas Becker. Indeed, State Dept. funding skyrocketed once Bill Clinton got on the Laureate payroll, according to Bloomberg:

A Bloomberg examination of IYF’s public filings show that in 2009, the year before Bill Clinton joined Laureate, the nonprofit received 11 grants worth $9 million from the State Department or the affiliated USAID. In 2010, the group received 14 grants worth $15.1 million. In 2011, 13 grants added up to $14.6 million. The following year, those numbers jumped: IYF received 21 grants worth $25.5 million, including a direct grant from the State Department.

Throughout ten Democratic Party debates, Establishment Media have not asked Hillary Clinton a single question about she and her husband’s for-profit education scam.
82  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / If Elizabeth Warren is NOT picked for VP, is it because she is a woman? on: June 05, 2016, 07:36:24 PM
Clearly she is running for the job.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/2016/06/liz_warren_steps_up_trump_attacks_calls_him_an_insecure_money_grubber
83  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Sprinter with a penis on girls track team on: June 05, 2016, 07:21:18 PM

Crafty has this right I think.  Follow the penis.  If you have one, they have a restroom and a team for that.  If you have a vagina, there is a team and a restroom for that.  This isn't that complicated.  If you have something else or some other combination of features, maybe you need a family court judge or psych warden to advise on which shower room is yours.

If you hang your penis out in a no-penis area, they have a criminal charge for that.
84  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: US-China (& Japan, South China Sea-- Vietnam, Philippines, etc) on: June 04, 2016, 04:56:45 PM
"As our enemy, they have neglected to take action against little Taiwan for all these years even knowing Obama would do nothing to stop them.  Something is stopping them."
If they move on Taiwan and fail, it would quite possibly topple the CCP from power.

Failure might include having an unprovoked invasion become messy.  Quite interesting to ponder. 

Their main threat to power is from within.  Japan isn't going to take them again and the US isn't coming in.  If they start something they can't easily finish or that gives life to new dissent, perhaps other turmoil might develop.

The communist party knows one way to stay in power, maintain the status quo where political and physical oppression is offset with rising incomes for the masses. 

It has been a long time since protesters were massacred in Tiananmen Square, aka the "June Fourth Incident", 27 years ago today.  Does the ruling party have the will to do that today?  Probably yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square_protests_of_1989
85  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: US-China (& Japan, South China Sea-- Vietnam, Philippines, etc) on: June 04, 2016, 03:25:36 PM
working with China to improve security in Asia........ cry angry
But China IS the security threat.

Like making pals with Iran.  
Can we be friends?  Can we be friends?  can we be friends?
With Pepsi generation music in background.
Why this is so beautiful.  I wish I could have thought of this.
So wise and smart.  So able to see beyond the rancor.  God what genius....

China is our friend, our rival, our partner AND our enemy.  This would be tricky situation to deal with even if we were trying to act in our own best interests.

As our "friend", they won't lift a finger to stop North Korea, and keep building up their fleet, bases and intentions in the Taiwan to Singapore Sea.

As our enemy, they have neglected to take action against little Taiwan for all these years even knowing Obama would do nothing to stop them.  Something is stopping them.

As our (economic) partner, they are susceptible to us sneezing over here.  If our economy was roaring right now, their own economic growth would have been maintained.  The worst thing we can do hurt them would be to elect 4 more years of stagnation and decline at home.  It is hurting all of the rest of the world.
86  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Economics, The failure of the Left on: June 04, 2016, 03:16:35 PM
Democrats took over Washington 10 years ago with the election of Pelosi-Reid-Obama-Hillary-Biden majorities in the House and Senate.  They put the nation on notice with their electoral succes in Nov 2006 that: 1) the Bush tax rate cuts were sure to be repealed, and 2) the policies of income redistribution were coming hard and soon toward you if you hadn't felt them already.  So we had two years of Dems running over George Bush's lame duck ending and we had the 8 eight years following that of the leftist dream team running the White House.  By now the rich should be gone and the working class elevated.  Are they?

Copying over some of my math from Cog Diss of the Left, somewhere in this is a lesson or two...

94.1 million now "out of the workforce". 
 7.4  million of "the workforce" unemployed.
101.5 million working age and above people don't work in a country of 245 million adults.

The number working age and above people in this country not working exceeds the entire population of our 35 lowest population states.

Some of these should be working.  Some should not.  How many too many that is - is a matter of opinion.  But it is WAY too many.  My point in the plowhorse analogy is that at some point the load is too great for the rest to pull or carry.

Left wing fact check from 14 months ago:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/feb/10/ted-cruz/ted-cruz-says-92-million-americans-arent-working/
Cruz understated his number, still they called his statement mostly false.

The poor got poorer under Chavez Obama.  The rich got richer.  They locked in their market share in all the crony industries while the government acted powerfully to prevent new companies to enter those industries, rise up and compete.  High taxes don't hurt the rich; just add it to the price that you charge the poor if everyone has to pay it.

We traded economic opportunity away for a snipe called income equality - and got neither.

The increase alone of Food Stamp recipients alone under Obama, 16 million more people on food stamps under Obama, is equal to the population of 13 states:  Nebraska, West Virginia, Idaho, New Hampshire, Maine, Rhode Island, Montana, Delaware, South Dakota, North Dakota, Alaska, Vermont, Wyoming.

That's a good thing, right?  More and more people can't have dinner without government help!  20% of households need help now.  What was that percentage in the 1960s?  How far have we come by "helping"?

32 million on food stamps when Obama took office.  Peaked at 47 million, roughly a 50% increase - in ONE Presidency!

7.4 million on disability assistance when Obama took office. 
11 million today, roughly a 50% increase.

More people in poverty.  More people unable to work because of a disability, millions more.  More people need assistance to buy health insurance.  And more people on food stamps, tens of millions more.  This is what we call a "recovery".  How would it look differently if the economy sucked?


Did I mention DEBT?  What part of This-Is-Leftist-Failure do they not understand?  The more he grows the stagnant economy, the more people don't work in it.  They can't even eat without help.

Leftists are taking us on the same path as Venezuela; we are just at a different point on the time line.

The total number of people on food stamps, 46 million, is the same number of people that live in 25 states.  All the people in half the states!  So, what is the poverty rate after we pay all this money?  Same as it was before.  The Census Bureau does not count in-kind payments as income.  So how much more assistance is needed?  By their math, the amount needed is infinite.

"Maybe they went too far."
87  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Donald Trump on: June 04, 2016, 02:57:00 PM
quote author=ccp
"The more rioting by illegals and marxists I see, the more I am willing to vote Trump, no matter all my previously stated issues with Trump."  Wow - from GM!   shocked


I am drawing a distinction between supporting Trump and voting for Trump.  I don't support him and maybe never will.  I will vote for him on election day if that will matter in terms of stopping something far worse from happening.

At this point, I am hoping to mostly support Paul Ryan on matters of the economy, budget and entitlement reform and hope the overlap between the House and a Trump White House becomes good policy and can pass a divided Senate.

On matters of foreign policy, I am praying for good advice to come to a President Trump through the chair of the joint chiefs etc. and that he will choose policies and battles wisely.

On matters of judicial appointments, I don't trust him one bit but must choose what is likely to be better than Hillary.

I hope but doubt he will pick a VP that I would want to be President.  Still, whoever he picks will be better than Hillary, Bernie or whoever they pick for a heartbeat away.

If Trump cannot make my state competitive, I will simply write in my real first choice, whoever that is come November.

88  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Cognitive Dissonance of the left, 100 million out of work on: June 03, 2016, 11:14:47 PM
I have a little more to go on this and then I will copy this over to 'Political Economics' for safekeeping.

94.1 million now "out of the workforce".  
 7.4  million of "the workforce" unemployed.

101.5 million working age and above people don't work in a country of 245 million adults.

The number working age and above people in this country not working exceeds the entire population of our 35 lowest population states.

Some of these should be working.  Some should not.  My point in the plowhorse analogy is that, at some point, the load is too great for the rest to carry.


How many too many that is - is a matter of opinion.  But it is WAY too many.
Left wing fact check from 14 months ago:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/feb/10/ted-cruz/ted-cruz-says-92-million-americans-arent-working/

The poor got poorer under Chavez Obama.  The rich got richer under Obama.  They locked in their market share in all the crony industries while the government acted powerfully to prevent new companies to enter those industries, rise up and compete.

We traded economic opportunity away for a snipe called income equality - and got neither.

One might say, we have a dead economy 10 years after Democrats took control of it, AT THIS POINT WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE!
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Please check my math on this, the increase alone of Food Stamp recipients under Obama, 16 million more people on food stamps under Obama, is equal to the population of 13 states:  Nebraska, West Virginia, Idaho, New Hampshire, Maine, Rhode Island, Montana, Delaware, South Dakota, North Dakota, Alaska, Vermont, Wyoming.

That's a good thing, right?


32 million on food stamps when Obama took office.  Peaked at 47 million, roughly a 50% increase.  

7.4 million on disability assistance when Obama took office.  11 million today, roughly a 50% increase.

More people in poverty.  More people unable to work because of a disability, millions more.  More people need assistance to buy health insurance.  And more people on food stamps, tens of millions more.  This is what we call a "recovery".  How would it look differently if the economy sucked?

Seriously, where do we go with this.  Is there a disability epidemic?  Is the Surgeon General aware of it, doing something about it?  The Medical Journals, do they know?  Or does everyone know with a wink and a nod that it's just more free stuff.  People are willing to give up work for free stuff.  Same goes for food stamps.  We advertise for food stamp customers.  Great program.  20% of households are using it.  Maybe more people should check it out.

What part of This Is Leftist Failure do they not understand?  The more he grows the stagnant economy, the more people don't work in it.  Can't even eat without help.

They are taking us on the same path as Venezuela; we are just at a different point on the time line.

Math update:  The total number of people on food stamps, 46 million, is the same number of people that live in the 25 smallest states.  All the people in half the states!  So, what is the poverty rate after we pay all this money?  Same as it was before.  The Census Bureau does not count in kind payments as income.
89  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Cognitive Dissonance of the left, Increase of Food Stamp recipients under Obama on: June 03, 2016, 06:02:25 PM
Please check my math on this, the increase alone of Food Stamp recipients under Obama, 16 million more people on food stamps under Obama, is equal to the population of 13 states:  Nebraska, West Virginia, Idaho, New Hampshire, Maine, Rhode Island, Montana, Delaware, South Dakota, North Dakota, Alaska, Vermont, Wyoming.

That's a good thing, right?
90  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: June 03, 2016, 05:19:45 PM
"said she couldn't be confirmed as Attorney General right now"

but nothing stopping her from running for president, even if indicted and even if prosecuted.  Hey she could be not only the first woman but the first felon.  She could run her mafia org from jail.
Even Presidency.  Home arrest in the White House, if as John Podesta pleads - *the people decide*
Nothing in the Constitution about that.

If elected, she could pardon herself and the whole Clinton-Abedin crime family.
91  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: European matters on: June 03, 2016, 09:39:12 AM
I confess the youth vote surprises me. 

Likewise.  When I read the headline, massive generational divide, I didn't guess which way it would split.  Youth are trained to be one world government advocates and the EU is a big step in that direction.  Like American exceptionalism, one would have to believe in Britain is exceptional as compared to Europe in order to favor the surrender of sovereignty. 

Does anyone remember when the biggest power in Europe was bombing the sh*t out of England?  Young people don't.  Does anyone believe the UK, such as it was under Thatcher for example, is capable of greater things economically than the stagnant, socialistic states of most of the rest of Europe?  Not if you favor stagnant, wealth fighting socialism.

92  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: European matters: Is France’s Fifth Republic Doomed? on: June 03, 2016, 09:28:52 AM
All kinds of good news (sarc.) around the world in year 8 of Barack Obama's stint as leader of the free world. Latin America, China and Europe collapsing... whatever...  Yes, Obama had a hand in Hollande's failure, and also, simply, socialism fails.

http://www.realclearworld.com/articles/2016/06/03/is_frances_fifth_republic_doomed_111890.html

... The government has not been able to staunch the rebellion on the streets. The protests have taken two different, but equally menacing, directions. The first, Nuit Debout (Rise Up at Night), is unprecedented. Convening every evening at Place de la République, thousands of students, workers, and activists practice direct democracy. Holding general assemblies -- one part group therapy session, one part constituent assembly -- participants speak briefly on issues ranging from unfair housing practices to the ongoing state of emergency.

The movement’s slogan -- “Our Dreams Don’t Fit Your Ballot Boxes” -- is a worthy ideal, but hard to translate into policy. As for the other form of protest, its anti-government slogan might as well be “Your Dreams Are Our Nightmares.” These traditional labor union strikes are rooted in the long history of what, 40 years ago, sociologist Michel Crozier called “la société bloquée,” or “the stalled society.” The French, Crozier argued, distrust negotiation and compromise, and do not identify with political parties. Given their “horror of face-to-face contact,” their resistance to cooperation, and their fear of innovation, the French are most comfortable with confrontation. The take-no-prisoners policy of both the government and the General Federation of Workers, the militant union leading the strikes, suggests that Crozier’s analysis is still pertinent. With the start next week of the Euro Cup football championship, hosted by France, one or the other side will have to blink.

...
The most likely candidate for this providential man is, in fact, a woman: Marine Le Pen, leader of the extreme right-wing National Front. Le Pen’s approval ratings continue to climb, and last month, in a poll taken for the newspaper Le Parisien, she outdistanced Hollande in the second round of next year’s presidential election, 55 percent to 45 percent.

While she fares less well against some of the other contenders, Le Pen’s growing strength nevertheless underscores the republic’s predicament: its survival perhaps depends on someone whose politics resembles that of another providential figure: Philippe Pétain, the head of the xenophobic, reactionary, and authoritarian Vichy regime. Over the next few weeks, it is not just the Euro Cup, but perhaps also the Fifth Republic that will be at stake.
 
93  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: European matters, Massive generational divide marks 'Brexit' debate on: June 03, 2016, 09:12:42 AM
Massive generational divide marks 'Brexit' debate

http://www.9news.com/news/nation-now/massive-generational-divide-marks-brexit-debate/228790259

One survey found that 75% of those 18 to 24 want Britain to stay, but 67% of those over 65 favor a "Brexit" — British exit. The figures exclude those who don't know or say they won't vote.

“Older people are much more likely to stress the importance of immigration and issues relating to sovereignty,” while young people are mostly concerned about jobs and the economy,
94  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / European matters, Germany 2017 elections, European Central Bank on: June 03, 2016, 07:54:49 AM
Right now we look at the British EU exit vote but the whole German-European question is even harder to understand.  Germany is the stable economy of the EU, holding up places like Greece.  What does Germany gain from it?  Export markets, for one thing but wouldn't they have that anyway?

Just like the monetary question here, zero interest policy hurts savers.  Zero interest rate policy hurts Germany.  But Germany doesn't have a central bank; they are part of a union of 19 nation-states.  the immigration explosion some saw as a demographic opportunity will be called in question by the voters.  The political direction of Germany could change next year and those who pursued nonsense and danger might find themselves out.

Worthwhile read, accept for their misguided advice to re-energize their economy through increased spending.

http://www.realclearworld.com/articles/2016/06/02/germanys_2017_election_is_already_rattling_europe_111887.html

Germany's 2017 Election Is Already Rattling

Behind the war of words between Berlin and the European Central Bank is a convergence of problems that might have repercussions for all of Europe. Both sides have a point. The fact that next year will see elections in Germany is creating unnecessary nervousness.

After months of taking repeated drubbings by leading German politicians, European Central Bank President Mario Draghi decided to strike back. In a stinging and seldom seen rebuke, issued in response to charges that the ECB is hurting the German economy, the fiercely independent institution released a research paper documenting how it isn't the ECB's monetary policy that is hurting Germany, but rather the domestic policies of successive German governments.

Draghi has been excoriated relentlessly by German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schauble for allegedly depriving German savers and pensioners of money by way of the ECB's expansive monetary policies, which have depressed interest rates. Schauble went so far as to say that Draghi's decisions to pump billions of euros into the European money market were pushing voters to populist parties.

On May 30 Schauble reiterated his warnings about the ECB. The rebuke came just one year ahead of general elections in Germany.

The ECB's research paper opines that Berlin's investment policy (or the lack thereof) is at fault. The Bank reasons that a dearth of public investment into the country's infrastructure, research and development, and German consumer spending in general is holding back the German economy.

In short: Because the ECB is keeping interest rates low, it is much easier for the German government to take on cheap loans -- something which it can easily do, since it has a budget surplus and national debt is declining fast -- and invest, thereby boosting the domestic economy.

Ramifications for all of Europe

The outcome of the debate between the ECB and Berlin is all the more important because Germany has a current account surplus thanks to its strong exports. As one economic truism goes: One man's gain is another man's loss.

Yet a country's economy cannot live on exports alone; it also needs to enthrall consumers into buying more German products, which will also aid supplier countries to Germany. If German consumers buy more products, so the ECB argues, the economies of European countries where those products are partly produced or assembled will benefit, thus lifting the entire European economy.

The ECB's reasoning in this case fits right in with what many economists have been saying for years: that the German consumer needs to boost all of Europe by buying European. So far the German government has resisted pressure to dig into its pockets and boost domestic spending.

Yet on the other hand there is a case for Berlin's point of view. Germany's leaders realize that further down the line, the country is facing enormous problems.

Germany is a demographic time bomb. Germans will be leaving the labor force in droves in the coming years, straining the German collective welfare state. There are simply too many people reaching retirement age and too few young people picking up the tab, especially to finance the country's cherished healthcare system. This while the German pensions system isn't sufficient for Germans to keep up retirement incomes equal to their expenditures.

So Germans like to save for their retirement. Low interest rates on their savings are making a lot of elderly Germans understandably nervous as their retirement looms closer.

This economic reality helped push Angela Merkel's open-door policy for refugees. She aims to quickly integrate approximately 1 million refugees into the German labor force. This new blood will hopefully help to pay the bills.

The war of words between the ECB and Berlin shouldn't need to be a matter of either-or. While the ECB agrees that in the short term, interest rates are depressed by the Central Bank's expansive monetary policy, in the long run, smart public spending by the German government, such as in its truly ailing infrastructure, should lift all boats -- in Germany and Europe. People in other European countries will have more money in their pockets with which to buy German products in the years to come.

It's just that it is a tough message to sell for Angela Merkel's CDU party with a new populist, pro-savers party in the shape of the popular Alternative fur Deutschland breathing down her neck in the upcoming election campaign. Expect more artillery barrages between Berlin and the ECB until the voting booths close.
95  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The World retains its' ability to surprise: MSNBC goes after Hillary HARD on: June 03, 2016, 07:33:36 AM

From that video, as I saw it,

They had a lineup of liberals and they all agreed she lied. 

Inspector General report concluded she violated the Federal Records Act by not turning over all official emails when she left office.  There was no evidence she ever asked for or received permission to use her personal server for official business.

All these sympathetic journalists agreed they don't know how she goes forward politically.

Chuck Todd, host of Meet the Press, 'said she couldn't be confirmed as Attorney General right now'.

Hillary Clinton:  "I don't want any risk of the personal being accessible."

But her personal was official business, repeatedly intertwining her foundation activities with US government business.
96  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Economics, Larry Elder, On Inequality on: June 03, 2016, 07:15:42 AM
Larry Elder puts to words what we all know but some want to deny.

http://townhall.com/columnists/larryelder/2016/06/02/on-inequality-n2172075

Is there a more brain-dead concept than to empower the government to fight "income inequality"? What sane, normal, rational human being thinks that human talent, drive, interests and opportunity can -- or should -- result in equal outcomes?

Despite my love of athletics, I knew in third grade that my friend, Keith, could run much faster than I could. For two years I played Little League ball, and I got better at it. But no matter how hard I tried or how many hours I spent, I could not hit, run or throw as well as my friend Benji.

Later in life, I started playing tennis, and I became quite passionate about it. But most of the people I played against had started playing years earlier, and most had taken lessons for years. I got better, but given my competitors' head start, the gap remained.

Financial planners advise clients to start early and stick to some sort of game plan. Is there any wonder that those who do so will have more net worth than those who started later, or who lacked the discipline to follow and stick to a plan? How is government supposed to address these "unequal" outcomes?
Most entrepreneurs experience failure before hitting on an idea, concept or business that makes money. Even then, it takes 20 to 30 years of long hours and sacrifice, along with occasional self-doubt and a dollop of luck, to become a multimillionaire.

I recently saw a movie starring Cate Blanchett. She is a very good actress, but she is also strikingly beautiful. Is there any doubt that her good looks, over which she had no control, are a factor in her success? Is it unfair that an equally talented actress, but with plain looks, will likely have an "unequal" career compared with that of Blanchett?

Speaking of acting, most who venture into that field do not become successful, if success is defined as making a living as an actor. These overwhelming odds still do not deter the many young people who flock to Hollywood every year to "make it."

Had a would-be actor dedicated that same drive and personality to some other profession, success would have been more likely, if less enjoyable. Should the government intervene and take from the successful non-actor and give to those who unsuccessfully pursued a long-shot acting career? An ex-actor told me of her recent lunch with a friend she had met when they both left college and pursued acting. While the ex-actor moved on to a different, successful career, her friend stuck to acting, through thick and thin. The actor informed her friend that she recently turned down a commercial. Why? What struggling actor turns down this kind of work? Turns out, through some sort of "assistance" program, said the friend, the state of California is "assisting with her mortgage." She has no obligation to repay the money, and she will continue to receive the assistance as long as her income is not above a certain level. How does this strengthen the economy? The ex-actor, through her taxes, subsidizes the lifestyle of the actor, who admits turning down work lest she be denied the benefits.

But this is exactly the world sought by Bernie Sanders -- a government that taxes the productive and gives to the less productive in order to reduce "income inequality."

In the real world, two individuals, living next door to each other, make different choices about education, careers, spouses, where to live, and if and how to invest. Even if they make exactly the same income, one might live below his or her means, prudently saving money, while the other might choose to regularly buy new cars and fancy clothes and go on expensive vacations. Is there any question that the first person will end up with a higher net worth than the latter? Is their "inequality" something that government should address?

Although Beyoncé is a good singer, is there any question that there are others with superior voices? But Beyoncé is also blessed with "unequally" good looks, charisma and perhaps better management -- maybe better than the other two ladies in her musical trio, Destiny's Child, whom she once sang with. Three singers, in the same group, have had "unequal" outcomes.

Communism, collectivism and socialism rest on the same premise -- that government possesses the kindness, aptitude, judgment and ability to take from some and give to others to achieve "equality." Karl Marx wrote, "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs." And that's the problem. The statement implicitly acknowledges that some have more aptitude, drive, energy and ability than others. To take from some and give to others reduces the initiative of both the giver and the givee.
This is the fundamental flaw with income redistribution, the very foundation of communism, socialism and collectivism. One would think that Bernie Sanders would have figured this out by now. But wisdom among 74-years-olds, like outcome, is not distributed equally.
97  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The war on the rule of law on: June 02, 2016, 02:58:10 PM
[DM] "One point first, the constitution spells out the requirements to be President and the requirement of the Vice President are the same, eligible to be President, and Title 19 of the US Code doesn't come above that.  So this law means she is banned and barred from holding any office in the United States - except President or Vice President." 

Crafty]  Disagree.  I think the C. is setting out the minimum requirements here; the requirements listed are not meant to be an exhaustive list.


Very interesting.  My view above is based on my opinion, not necessarily legal ruling.  Crazy, but I believe one Congress cannot bind a future Congress, for example, notice how they ignore Humphrey Hawkins and laws that required budgets to be introduced and passed on a particular schedule.  To me, same goes for Title 19 etc.  Congress and Pres of 1960s do not limit who can run for President in 2016.  We have an amendment process for that and it requires 4/5ths of the state legislatures, not a majority in congress plus a Presidential signature.

Even if you went with my view that only the constitution can limit her eligibility to be President, it should be damaging enough that she is banned from any lower office and that her entire inner circle is ineligible for re-hire to staff positions because they conspired to commit the same crimes.
98  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / What can be learned from the crisis in Venezuela on: June 01, 2016, 10:45:48 AM
I hope Denny is well and has a plan in place to get through this, and I wish the best for all who have to deal with the man-made tragedy of the Venezuelan economy

Venezuela is facing a human tragedy.  People can't buy basic things, according to so many reports.  They are facing a near total breakdown of all things economic.  The crisis brings immediate questions, what can be done right now to survive this, and longer view questions, why did this happen?

"Maybe they went too far."  [with socialism and statism]  That is the best answer I have heard from the left here as to why socialism failed Venezuela (yet we keep pursuing same or similar policies here.)

If economic freedom is the engine of propulsion, then social programs, centralized authority and cronyism are the brakes.  When the brakes are stronger than the engine, the system halts.  There is a limit to how badly you can cripple your private economy without stalling it and there is a limit to how heavy of a load it can carry.  Don't cripple production and weigh down the load at the same time, but isn't that the way these things go?

Zero growth, like we have in the US, is not the limit of dysfunction.  Zero production is.  In a closed system, zero production means death, literally.  Venezuela doesn't have zero production, but they have real qand significant decline that has the potential to spiral further downward.  When you don't have electricity, water, gas, food or even rule of law, you can't produce if you want to. 

In the US, we have the contention of a formerly dynamic private economy fighting against the weight of an ever-growing public burden.  The corporate tax rate is the highest in the world, and that is just one of the burdens slwoing activity and chasing out capital.  The number of people on food stamps doubled in recent years, and that is just one indicator that the weight of the load is increasing.  We have a some economic freedom left and some rule of law remaining.  After you are quadruple taxed and quadruple taxed again, you are free to keep the remaining fruits of your labor, and keep your factory open if you pay overtime healthcare and the like.

The strength remaining in our weakened private economy is about equal to the weight of the anchor we carry in this period of zero growth.  Our anchor will pull us all the way down if we add more weight to it or lose another ounce of strength.  We don't have any more room to do things any worse and not face collapse and crisis.


In Venezuela, they did all those things we hypothesize about in the heated talk about income or wealth inequality.  They cut out the capitalists, gave the money to the people [and to government and to the cronies], right up until they ran out of people to take from.  As Margaret Thatcher correctly observed and predicted, they ran out of other people's money.  Now we see how well a central authority replaces a free market. 

This time, as always, Socialism failed.
99  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The war on the rule of law on: June 01, 2016, 09:25:17 AM

One point first, the constitution spells out the requirements to be President and the requirement of the Vice President are the same, eligible to be President, and Title 19 of the US Code doesn't come above that.  So this law means she is banned and barred from holding any office in the United States - except President or Vice President. 


1)  She "willfully, unlawfully, concealing and removing, or attempting to conceal or remove"
        30,000 documents removed from server under her direction, hidden from oversight

2) "any record, paper, document, or other thing [ELECTRONIC MAIL (EMAIL)]

3)  with "any public office"  [Secretary of State]

Is there a gray area here?  She didn't "attempt to remove or conceal"?  These aren't "other things" like papers and documents?  Sec State is not a "public office"?

US Code provides that:  Shall be fined and / or imprisoned. 

Within the law above, either or both, fined and imprisoned, is a legal choice; neither is not.

Whoever it is [U.S. Attorney General and the President] that is charged with fining or imprisoning her [at least bringing charges] should also face a consequence for refusal to perform the duties entrusted upon them.  Even President Nixon's cabinet understood the choices available to them, do your job or resign your office.  Too bad we don't use the impeachment process more often for office holders who don't and won't enforce the laws that apply to the executive branch.
100  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Rubio surprises on: May 30, 2016, 09:51:46 PM

I wonder if Rubio's speech at the convention will lead a few to think they nominated the wrong one.
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