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1  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / FBI illegally shared spy data on Americans on: Today at 11:20:16 AM
http://circa.com/politics/declassified-memos-show-fbi-illegally-shared-spy-data-on-americans-with-private-parties
2  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Why Trump has a responsibility to ignore the Fourth Circuit on: Today at 09:21:49 AM
https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/president-trump-ignore-the-fourth-circuit

Why Trump has a responsibility to ignore the Fourth Circuit

Posted May 25, 2017 05:41 PM by Daniel Horowitz
Immigration  Court  Judges  Republic  Judicial   travel ban lawsuits no wall no ban immigration protest refugees Protesters hold signs during a demonstration against President Donald Trump's revised travel ban, Monday, May 15, 2017, outside a federal courthouse in Seattle. Ted S. Warren | AP



The Fourth Circuit Court has nullified national sovereignty, but nobody in the political chattering class has answered the most important question: Why should Trump listen and what exactly is he supposed to do (or not do) in abiding by this opinion? There is no valid case or controversy to follow.

What distinguishes a court from a legislature

If Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, or Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., were to don black robes tomorrow and issue judicial orders on flagrantly political issues, would we expect the other branches of government to treat them as the final law of the land – binding over the other two branches of government – more so than when they were sitting in their respective legislative chambers? 

Of course not. The other branches, especially if controlled by Democrats, would discard their judicial “opinions” immediately. 

Yet, that is – including lower-court judges created by Congress, and not even the Constitution – now having the final say over national sovereignty, immigration, and national security.

Consider this irrationality: Congress can pass a law along party lines, yet we won’t regard that as the law of the land until a court upholds it. Yet, a court can be split along the same party lines – and is unelected and unaccountable – but somehow that is given MORE legitimacy than a legislature.

That’s exactly Thursday in the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals when 10 Democrat appointees “voted” against Trump’s temporary immigration moratorium, while the three GOP appointees voted for it.

Why not just have elected partisan officials decide political matters instead of unelected ones?

And therein lies the nub of this case. What differentiates a court from a legislature, what prevents the judiciary from becoming a de facto veto over the other two branches on broad national policy – and now even international policy – rather than serving as a separate co-equal branch, is that it can only adjudicate an individual case or controversy with legitimate standing and redressable grievances.

But the notion that their opinion in that individual case would be regarded as binding precedent on a national policy without any opposition is absurd; it philosophically undermines the premise of republican government, checks and balances, and co-equal branches.

Even those who believed in more robust judicial power always assumed that issues of national sovereignty and national security dealing with foreign nationals was beyond the reach of the court. In fact, it was considered settled law for over 100 years.

No standing on second Trump immigration order

In the case before the Fourth Circuit, there was no legitimate case or controversy. There is nothing for Pres. Trump to abide by. As Judge Steven Agee noted in his dissent, the three plaintiffs don’t have valid standing.

Even if we cede the absurd premises (see links below for more on this issue) that American relatives can sue to bring in foreign nationals, that the courts have the right to overturn sovereignty — and that the Establishment Clause applies to hypothetical immigrants — there is no redressable grievance. None of the plaintiffs were actually denied entry.; they merely feared the stigma of Trump’s declaration.

Thus, what relief did the courts grant in this case? And to whom? They can’t “strike down” an executive guidance. They don’t have such power — it has to apply to a tangible case.

Judge Agee explained the conditions for valid standing that differentiates the judicial power from legislative or executive powers as follows:

(1) “the plaintiff must have suffered an injury in fact—an invasion of a legally protected interest which is (a) concrete and particularized, and (b) actual or imminent, not conjectural or hypothetical”; (2) “there must be a causal connection between the injury and the conduct complained of—the injury has to be fairly traceable to the challenged action of the defendant, and not the result of the independent action of some third party not before the court”; and (3) “it must be likely, as opposed to merely speculative, that the injury will be redressed by a favorable decision.”
 

In this case, two of the plaintiffs are Iranian LPRs (lawful permanent residents, i.e. green card holders) who want to bring over their wives from Iran. Both should never have standing (over and beyond the obvious reasons ignored by the courts) because the wife of John Doe No. 1 was never denied yet and her application is still in process, and John Doe No. 3’s wife was actually approved!

Why are they suing? Because they are “being torn apart by this situation and the uncertainty and delay” and the stress and anxiety of feeling like “an outsider.” Thus, there is absolutely no injury-in-fact, even if we agreed foreign nationals somehow have a right to immigrate to America!

Moreover, even if there was a valid case, there is no tangible application of this case that would make the court’s opinion tantamount to “striking down” the policy.

For example, in the first round of litigation on the original order, while the courts were still way out of line, there was a tangible outcome for the Trump administration to follow. They allowed in anyone with a valid visa who was stuck at the airport. But in this case, we are talking about hypothetical future immigrants.

The courts are saying you can’t categorically deny visas from nationals of the listed countries. OK … but what should Trump affirmatively do? Does he now have to bring in everyone? Does he have to bring in the same ratio as any other country?

During every day of every administration, the DHS and State Department deny visas for all sorts of discretionary reasons. There’s no way a court can categorically ban the action of denying visas. So, under which circumstances may the president deny any visa? There is no way to know, which is why he should continue following statute. 

Moreover, as I mentioned Thursday morning, as it relates to refugees the court opinion doesn’t make any sense at all. The refugee moratorium wasn’t applied only to “Muslim” countries; it was applied to everyone. So, the plaintiff in this case who had a relative applying for refugee status (this was the third plaintiff, Muhammed “John” Meteab) doesn’t even have a valid Establishment Clause claim, even under their crazy system.

Plus, in this case, the applications for the relatives of this plaintiff were actually approved! So what’s the beef? Meteab claims he “experienced anti-Muslim sentiment and felt very uncomfortable and insecure in their community, causing them acute mental stress.”

But even if we agree with the court that the president, who has full control to set the refugee cap, suddenly cannot categorically shut down refugee resettlement, what exactly is he supposed to do? Does he bring in 50,000 a year … 70,000 … 100,000? How much is “enough”?

Furthermore, parts of the Fourth Circuit Court’s opinion are null and void on their face. As it relates to non-immigrant visas from four of the six countries, 8 U.S. Code §1735 requires the president to cut off visas to state sponsors of terrorism, which at the time of passage in 2002, included five of the seven countries in Trump’s original order.

Thus, there is no excuse for Trump’s secretary of state or DHS secretary not to continue passively denying visas or refugee status to their heart’s content. This is not the same as advocating “not listening to the courts.” (Although that is something that needs to happen anyway, because the courts don’t listen to statutes and the Constitution.) It’s to say that there is no affirmative action to take in accordance with a court order because there is no order and a court can’t issue such an order.

The Trump administration should at least wait for the ACLU to launch another challenge and try to prove that the White House is in some way violating the order. But, in order to do so, they would have to challenge an actual denial of a visa. The problem is that 8 U.S. Code §1201(h)(i) gives customs officers the plenary authority to not only deny issuance of a visa but to revoke one already issued.

What’s more, this provision of law, which passed the Senate 96-2 in 2004, explicitly stripped the courts of any jurisdiction to adjudicate the revocation of visas for anyone seeking entry into the country (as opposed to someone living here who is being deported). The jurisdiction-stripping provision includes even a basic habeas corpus petition. How in the world can the courts be allowed to get involved in this matter?

Perforce, the “executive order” is not a tangible law because the law already gives the executive branch such authority. If the courts are merely saying that Trump can’t make a public declaration that makes American Muslims feel stigmatized (which is essentially the only way they granted standing in this case), then Trump should just rip up the order but proceed to quietly adhere to more or less the same policies.

Any complaints about such a move would, by definition, make the courts a legislature, not a judicial body. And if we can’t , we are no longer a republic worth defending.
3  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: North and South Korea on: Today at 09:06:46 AM
If we are not planning to militarily end this regime, moving carriers around the globe is an expensive way to play mind games with this lunatic.

Wouldn't it be great if deal maker President has orchestrated an overwhelming joint effort of China, Russia, US and South Korea to free this prison camp and rescue the inmates.

It would be nice, but I expect the best case is that China sits on the sidelines and let's it happen.
4  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc. on: Today at 08:49:59 AM
"I'm hoping that punching the MSM was what put him over the top."

Right, but it is the left that wants to keep opening the vote process and this had the potential of being a reason not to do that.

The left opening the vote process is about enabling fraud, not actually getting actual Americans to vote.
5  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Knife Law on: Today at 08:46:48 AM

Actual criminals use box cutters and utility knives purchased at a dollar store, not 100+ dollar "tactical" knives.
6  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The electoral process, early voting backfires for Dems in Montana on: Today at 08:37:39 AM
Sean Trende wrote what I was thinking.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/05/26/four_takeaways_from_gianfortes_win_in_montana__134014.html
early voting provides some flexibility for voters, the evidence that it actually improves turnout is at best limited (with some evidence finding that it actually decreases turnout).
More importantly, to my mind, is that there’s something to be said for the idea of voters heading to the voting booth with the same information.  While early voters tend to be more partisan – and hence less likely to change their votes in response to new information – there are incidents such as this that could do so (or in primaries, where candidates sometimes drop out before Election Day).

I'm hoping that punching the MSM was what put him over the top. The left likes violence, let them enjoy what they have brought to the table.
7  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Anyone in a betting mood? on: May 25, 2017, 09:39:08 PM
8  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Gosh, deliberate lies to push a narrative on: May 25, 2017, 09:24:34 PM
From www.ace.mu.nu


Cosmo Sucks


After the terrorist attack in Manchester this week, many people rose to the occasion magnificently, as people always do. Of particular note was how the Sikh community responded. Like this fellow:

sikh 1.jpg
Of course, none of this is surprising, as the Sikh community has a long history of dealing with Muslim violence. Cosmo asks to use the photo in reporting the story stateside. Oh, that's nice, you might think, it's a good story, be some nice publicity for the Sikhs.

Sikh 2.jpg

So Cosmo runs the story:


Sikh 3.jpg
This isn't an accident, the driver was correctly identified in the source material. This is a deliberate LIE to feed a narrative. Fuck you Cosmo.
9  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: 4th C. travel ban opinion on: May 25, 2017, 09:12:44 PM

Ah, again black robed mandarins legislate from the bench. Putting the people without protective details at risk, because virtue signaling is more important than the dirt people who don't live among the elites.
10  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / More Obama wall hypocrisy on: May 25, 2017, 09:05:57 PM
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/photos-obama-lectures-cant-hide-behind-wall-behind-wall/

Do as I say, not as I do.
11  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Death of NATO on: May 25, 2017, 09:02:25 PM
http://carnegieeurope.eu/2017/05/23/new-transatlantic-security-bargain-pub-70050

"Europe should propose to the United States a new security project of transformative significance. This could come in the shape of a joint Marshall Plan–like effort to shore up the fledgling democracies of North Africa, for example. The idea is to generate a security benefit—such as fewer terrorists with the potential to harm the United States—at a scale that would firmly imprint on American minds that a joint effort with Europe makes America safer."

Or, Europe and the US could start with securing their borders. Cheaper, easier and basic common sense.
12  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: North and South Korea on: May 25, 2017, 07:39:36 PM
https://youtu.be/FpQx7sxKv-I
#Invalid YouTube Link#

Stratfor thinks US will attack NK within weeks...

It does sound very plausible.
13  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Just how deep did the illegal surveillance under Obama go? on: May 25, 2017, 06:42:43 PM

Investigation and prosecution are the only acceptable response from Trump. If he doesn't act, it's all on him.

14  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: nanoweapons book on: May 25, 2017, 04:01:48 PM

Well, I am sure we can just pass some treaty and everything will be fine.
15  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / I blame the Lutefisk and the violence of Lutheran doctrine on: May 25, 2017, 03:59:38 PM
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2017/05/24/mpls-brothers-arsenal-arrest/

Growing Concern Over Brothers Arrested With Guns, Bomb-Making Materials
May 24, 2017 7:10 PM By Esme Murphy
Filed Under: Abdullah Alrifahe, Esme Murphy, Majid Alrifahe, Minneapolis

MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — There are growing concerns about the arrest of two brothers with ties to the Middle East who authorities say had an arsenal with bomb-making materials, guns and ammunition in their car.

Twenty-seven-year-old Abdullah Alrifahe and 26-year-old Majid Alrifahe were arrested on May 11 in north Minneapolis.

Abdullah is being held in the Hennepin County Jail. His brother, Majid, has been released and is facing minor charges.

WCCO-TV has confirmed that both Homeland Security and the FBI are involved in the investigation, which started outside a federally-subsidized senior housing project. A good Samaritan confronted the men about littering from their car.

abdullah alrifahe and majid alrifahe Growing Concern Over Brothers Arrested With Guns, Bomb Making Materials
Abdullah Alrifahe and Majid Alrifahe (credit: Hennepin Co. Jail)
The man, who asked that his name not be used for fear of his safety, said the brothers jumped out of their car, moved aggressively toward him and used the N-word. He then called police.

Inside the brothers’ car, police found a loaded AK-47, another rifle, a handgun, a grenade, large amounts of ammunition, and what would later be identified as bomb-making materials, including a drone.

Abdullah Alrifahe had recently been released from jail after serving time for a weapons conviction. He is now facing a single felony weapons charge.

His brother, Majid, has been released from jail and is facing a low-level misdemeanor charges, including disorderly conduct.

The good Samaritan is outraged the charges aren’t more serious.

“For what they found in their car, that is way too light,” he said.

However, criminal defense attorney Joe Tamburino, who is not affiliated with the case, says prosecutors are doing what they can.

“These people have been charged with what the prosecutors can do right now,” he said, adding that more charges could come down later.

The Minneapolis Police Department says the investigation remains an open. Meanwhile, Abdullah Alrifahe is being held on $200,000 bail, which is an extremely high amount for the charges he faces.

His brother, who is out of jail, did not immediately return phone calls.

WCCO-TV also reached out to the FBI and Homeland Security. The FBI responded that it has no comment on the case.
16  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Let's bring in more muslims, what could possibly go wrong? on: May 25, 2017, 03:55:07 PM
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/369928.php

May 25, 2017
British Security Services Were Warned Five Times About Salman Abedi Talking Up Suicide Bombing
Maybe it's time we focused less on "Muslims need to report their misbehaving members" and more on "Security services need to actually do something when citizens report likely terrorists."

I don't know that all of the people reporting Abedi were Muslim, but given that they were "friends" and I can't see Abedi trying too hard to integrate into broader British society, I imagine at least some were.

The Manchester suicide bomber was repeatedly flagged to the authorities over his extremist views, but was not stopped by officers, it emerged Wednesday night.
Counter Terrorism agencies were facing questions after it emerged Salman Abedi told friends that "being a suicide bomber was okay", prompting them to call the Government's anti-terrorism hotline.

Sources suggest that authorities were informed of the danger posed by Abedi on at least five separate occasions in the five years prior to the attack on Monday night.

...

Two friends of Abedi also became so worried they separately telephoned the police counter-terrorism hotline five years ago and again last year.

“They had been worried that ‘he was supporting terrorism’ and had expressed the view that ‘being a suicide bomber was ok’,” a source told the BBC.

Akram Ramadan, 49, part of the close-knit Libyan community in south Manchester, said Abedi had been banned from Didsbury Mosque after he had confronted the Imam who was delivering an anti-extremist sermon.

...

Mr Ramadan said he understood that Abedi had been placed on a "watch list" because the mosque reported him to the authorities for his extremist views.

A well-placed source at Didsbury Mosque confirmed it had contacted the Home Office's Prevent anti-radicalisation programme as a result.

A US official also briefed that members of Abedi's own family had contacted British police saying that he was "dangerous", but again the information does not appear to have been acted upon.

I'm not sure all of these claims are true -- it could be pro-Islamist agitators making claims to exonerate the Libyan community in Manchester.

But I gotta tell you, based on the past record, with so many "Known Wolves" being at perfect liberty to murder and maim, and the FBI seemingly intentionally permitting the Garland shooter to begin his attempt to assassinate people for putting on Free Speech demonstration, I am seriously beginning to wonder if our security services are actually in the business of protecting us rather than "community feelings."


And meanwhile, the feds allowed known MS-13 members to enter the United States as "unaccompanied minor" border crossers, and they're now lost in the country.

A number of Central American youths who were positively identified by border agents as MS-13 and Sureno 18 gang members were allowed to enter the country in July 2014 under Obama administration border surge policies, according to documents released today by Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.). Johnson is seeking information from the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) on the status of these cases and, most importantly, whether they were released from the HHS facilities to communities in the United States. The youths were initially held by the Border Patrol in Nogales, Ariz., and were later transferred to HHS-run facilities in Virginia, Washington, Texas, New York, and Oklahoma.
The gang members were identified on July 5, 2014, after staff members at the Border Patrol facility saw MS-13 graffiti in the bathrooms. Officers documented 16 juveniles who admitted to gang membership...

Despite the positive identification as gang members, the youths were transferred to low-security facilities around the country....

A week later, on July 11, Border Patrol agents apprehended two more UACs who were heard in their cells boasting about their gang affiliation and crimes to each other...

These two were separated from the general population in the Border Patrol holding facility until "being placed". There is no further information available about the disposition of their cases, whether they were eventually placed in an HHS contract facility somewhere, whether they were released, whether they have completed their deportation proceedings, or what has happened to them.
One thing to keep in mind about security services leaving known wolves to kill:

I spoke to a source with close knowledge of terrorist surveillance practices, and she told me that even serious terrorist threats -- serious, like they know this guy is definitely a terrorist -- are followed something like three 8-hour shifts a week.

When I heard this, I tried to clarify: "No, I don't mean the low-level threats, I mean the high level threats."

"I mean the high level threats too," she said. "The low-level threats get much less surveillance."

The problem, which surprised me, is just that there are so many high-level terrorist threats that there just aren't enough counter-terrorism surveillance personnel to follow them any more than a fraction of the time.

So part of the problem is simple: We just have too many high-level terrorism threats living in America. (And Britain, of course.) They overwhelm security services with their sheer numbers.

Maybe it's time to focus on that, the real problem, rather than lying to the public that we can "manage" terrorist threats in-country.

We can't. I was flat-out told how thinly spread surveillance personnel are and how they have to do triage surveillance even on the highest level threats.

Like, just an idea, maybe we could not admit known MS-13 gang members into our country when they illegally cross the border.

17  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Appeals court blocks President's moratorium again on: May 25, 2017, 03:39:50 PM

King Abdullah comes off better than 99% of US politicians. Intelligent and well spoken.

Wolf Blitzer is a douche.
18  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Weak men more likely to be socialist on: May 25, 2017, 02:35:24 PM

Not exactly a shocker to read this.
19  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: President Trump on: May 25, 2017, 02:34:27 PM

Montenegro is very low energy, very much not paying it's way. America is leading from the front. Bigly!
20  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Mr. Obama, tear down this wall! on: May 25, 2017, 12:28:10 PM


https://www.yahoo.com/news/president-obama-building-wall-around-010216232.html

President Obama is no fan of President-elect Trump’s plan to build a wall at the U.S.-Mexican border, but he is reportedly building a wall around his new digs in an upscale Washington, D.C., neighborhood in the same general area where the new president’s daughter and her family will reside.

Unlike most presidents and their families, historically, the Obamas are staying in Washington to enable their younger daughter to finish high school there, although pro-Donald Trump author Ed Klein claims that the real purpose is to set up a legacy-protecting shadow government in D.C. for the specific purpose of derailing the Trump train, i.e., thwarting the policies of the incoming Trump presidential administration.
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/25/barack-obama-draws-crowd-of-tens-of-thousands-in-berlin

Barack Obama received a hero’s welcome when he reunited with Angela Merkel for the first time since leaving office, calling on the audience to engage in democracy and telling the tens of thousands in Berlin: “We can’t hide behind a wall.”
21  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues on: May 25, 2017, 11:45:06 AM
Where were his parents from?

Hasan's parents were "palestinian". al-Awlaki's parents were Yemeni.
22  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues on: May 25, 2017, 11:38:42 AM
I had forgotten that he was son of immigrants.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-11658920



Born in Las Cruces, New Mexico.

23  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Geert Wilders: Islam Is To Blame for Manchester on: May 25, 2017, 10:53:58 AM
http://gatesofvienna.net/2017/05/geert-wilders-islam-is-to-blame-for-manchester/#more-42998


Posted on May 24, 2017 by Baron Bodissey
Geert Wilders, the leader of the Party for Freedom in the Netherlands, sends the following essay on Monday night’s jihad terror attack in Manchester.

Aftermath of Manchester bombing -- Salman Ramadan Abedi
Islam Is To Blame for Manchester

by Geert Wilders

I am writing this article today just after we, members of the Dutch Parliament, in the presence of the British Ambassador, commemorated the Manchester victims with a short speech by our Prime Minister and one minute of silence.

Two months ago, we did the same for the victims in Stockholm. Last December, for those in Berlin. And, earlier, for those in Nice, Brussels, Paris, Copenhagen… The list becomes endless, while the number of Western ambassadors, who have not visited our Parliament for one of these sad occasions, becomes ever smaller.

And, every time, we hear the same hollow words of shock and grief and how incomprehensible it all is. But we never hear our Prime Minister, nor the leaders of other Western countries, tell us the truth: The cause of all this bloodshed, all this misery, all this pain and sorrow, is Islam.

Instead of the truth, we get crocodile tears. We have to listen to platitudes, we have politically correct hot air blown at us, again and again. But the truth remains that no bad tree bears good fruit.

Mujahid with a Koran and an RPGWhat we are witnessing is pure Islamic practice. It is the Koran with its admonishment to “cast terror in the heart of the non-Muslims” (Surah 8:12). It is the so-called prophet Muhammad, who boasted to his followers: “I have been made victorious through terror” (Bukhari, 4.52.220).

Islam is not a peace-loving religion, but an evil totalitarian ideology. It wants all non-Muslims to submit. It is totally incompatible with freedom and human decency. It preaches hatred, propagates violence and is barbaric and violent by nature.

And it also abuses our own freedoms and democratic liberties to subvert our democracy and rob us of these freedoms. It builds mosques and Islamic schools, often with Saudi money, where hatred against the West is preached. It abuses our legal system to harass its critics. It behaves like a fifth column in our midst. It is not global warming that is threatening the world; it is global Islam.


Attack after attack, innocent people are being killed. Everyone is a target. It is absolutely unacceptable that there are still political leaders and media ignoring the problem. They want the citizens to believe that Islam is a peace-loving religion and that there are only a few Islamic extremists who are ruining everything for everyone. But do not let yourselves be fooled.

Opinion polls show that no less than two-thirds of Muslims in the Netherlands find Islamic rules more important than our secular democratic laws. Research from the University of Amsterdam shows that as many as 11 percent of Dutch Muslims find it acceptable to use violence in the name of Islam. That is more than 100,000 Muslims in the Netherlands. Twice the number of soldiers in our Dutch army.

It is impossible for the ideology of Islam to assimilate in a free society. People can assimilate; an ideology cannot. We should not import it any longer to our society. Not because we hate the people, but because we have a problem with an ideology that is totally incompatible with freedom. Those who sow Islam must realize that they will harvest nothing but terrorism and the barbarism of Sharia law, with its oppression of women, Christians, Jews, apostates and Islam critics.

Last month, the Pew Forum revealed something truly shocking. The world is becoming ever more Islamic. Between today and 2060, the number of Muslims will grow by 70 percent. That is more than twice as fast as Christians, thrice as rapid as Hindus, and almost five times faster than Jews. By 2060, Islam will have almost as many adherents as Christianity. And soon after, it is bound to become the largest belief system on earth.

In many Western European countries, populations are growing only because of immigrants. And many of these are Islamic. Muhammad is already the most popular name among newborn boys in major cities in Britain, France, The Netherlands, Belgium and elsewhere. Islam uses all the tools it can lay its hands on. Guns and bombs, knives and cars and planes. But also demography and immigration.

Lampedusa: boatload of refugees #2
Last year, over 180,000 people crossed in shabby boats from Libya to Europe. And this is just the beginning. The United Nations expect the population of Africa to quadruple by the end of the century. From 1 billion today to 4 billion. One third of the Africans want to leave their own countries. Many of them are Islamic. And many want to move north. If Western Europe continues with its present open-door policies, the population of the European continent is in danger of being replaced and its nations colonized and Islamized. No longer European, but a province of Africa.

In order to save ourselves from atrocities such as the one just committed in Manchester, and to stop the process of population replacement in Europe, these are the three most important things we should do:

1.       Realize that Islam is the problem and start to de-Islamize our societies. No Islamic schools anymore, no hate preaching. We are facing an existential threat and should treat it as such.
2.       End all immigration from Islamic countries. Enough is enough! Those immigrants who are already in our nations are welcome to stay, but only if they fully adhere to our values, our constitution, our laws. If they commit crimes or start acting according to Sharia law, we should expel them at once. If necessary, radical Muslims must also be administratively detained.
3.       Get rid of political correctness. We should not let Islam abuse our freedoms and our constitutional rights just to abolish them. It is naïve and dangerous to grant rights to a totalitarian ideology which, if it gets its way, wants to rob us of our rights. We should realize that Islam has declared war on us, but that we will never allow it to win!
 
Islam hates and kills us. And nobody protects us. Our leaders betray us.

Let us start acting bravely, do our duty and de-Islamize our nations in order to protect us and remain a free people.


Geert Wilders MP is a member of the Dutch Parliament and the leader of the Party for Freedom (PVV) in The Netherlands
24  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: From the Cleveland Clinic Journal on: May 25, 2017, 10:52:16 AM
For the sake of of context , in over 30 yrs in medicine I have never seen an article that explains how to care for diabetics during Jewish fasting holidays of during Christmas or Easter:

http://www.mdedge.com/ccjm/article/136661/diabetes/diabetes-control-during-ramadan-fasting

"A diabetic patient who develops signs or symptoms of hypoglycemia during Ramadan fasting should break the fast to avoid serious complications."

If we can ease the rules of Islam, maybe we can also relax the call to kill all infidels.

Yes, getting muslims to value human life above religion. That would be nice.

Don't hold your breath.
25  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues on: May 25, 2017, 10:44:49 AM
"Yes, but a large, large number of terrorists are in fact second-generation sons of immigrant families. Think of the Tsarnaevs, and many, many others."

For example, the gay night club killer.

Yup. Or this piece of garbage:

Funny how their concept of jihad seems a bit different than the leftist definition of jihad we have been told.

26  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: May 24, 2017, 09:49:25 PM
The federal government can't do VA healthcare right, how can they do it for the whole country? Let California do single payer, and watch the collapse.


Correct, but politically inadequate.

How about:

a) Of course the number goes up--that  is what happens when purchase is not compelled by law;

b) CBO must use the numbers given it-- hence "non-partisan"  rolleyes  Here the numbers assume Obamacare levels across the time frame (10 years?) when Obamacare is insolvent now (e.g. rates have doubled since inception in 2013-- project that forward etc etc) 

Also, note that apparently because the CBO says the House bill reduces the deficit, it remains eligible for reconciliation (i.e. majority, not 60 votes)
27  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Sixteen year old commits suicide after threat of child porn charges on: May 24, 2017, 08:29:53 PM

Pretty horrific. It is crucial that parents talk with their children early and often about the very real and very serious dangers related to technology that we commonly take for granted. Juveniles that stupidly take a picture of themselves have ended up with felony level adult convictions and lifetime offender registration requirements. The internet is forever, and sometime the legal consequences of a moment of adolescent stupidity are as well.
28  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Backlash! on: May 24, 2017, 08:12:30 PM
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/369888.php

May 23, 2017
Manchester Suicide Bomber Named: Gary "The Garester" Eddington
Nah just fuckin wit ya, it's Salman Abedi, and the keening cries warning against #Backlash! have begun.

Question: Why is there never a warning about Backlash before the suspect is named?

Answer: Because if the suspect turns out to be one of the few the media can claim are "right wing" (Nazis, etc.), then the media does not warn against backlash, but actively crusades in favor of it.

If this guy turned out to be anything that could be plausibly mischaracterized as right wing -- tweeted in favor of Brexit, etc. -- the media would be blaming this right now on Donald Trump and his supporters, and demanding they take accountability for their hatred.

But, it's not, so the media set down its "Backlash is Good and Necessary" script and picked up its "Backlash is Bad" script.


Born in Manchester in 1994, the second youngest of four children his parents were Libyan refugees who came to the UK to escape the Gaddafi regime.
His parents were both born in Libya but appear to have emigrated to London before moving to the Fallowfield area of south Manchester where they have lived for at least ten years.

Here's a very common claim:

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Yes, but a large, large number of terrorists are in fact second-generation sons of immigrant families. Think of the Tsarnaevs, and many, many others.

That's a fact -- and it is also a fact that had the first generation not been admitted, the second generation could not have murdered the population that welcomed them.

One can see how this happens. Young men (in particular) have outsized egos and enjoy heroic narratives they can pretend to be a part of. They also tend to be easy targets for Identity Politics/Racist messaging and conspiracy theories, puffing themselves up as heroes fighting against the Jews/Blacks/Whites/Muslims/Christians/Whoever.

We see this pattern again and again as the second generation of immigrant families, searching for some kind of identity, purpose, and "heroic" role for themselves, picks up the mantle of intense and dangerous hyper-ethnocism their parents may have been fleeing in the first place.

From a Sean Spicer parody account (note he spells it Sean Spicier);

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A CNN analyst has already claimed it's actually a right-wing "false flag" attack:

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CNN is always screaming about the craziness of conservative conspiracy theories -- but they are warmly receptive to conspiracy theories emanating from their fellow hardcore progressive agitators.

Meanwhile, the same prog toads that shriek that we must not "normalize" Trump are now counseling that we must normalize Islamic terror:



This only goes to prove that we must Impeach Trump Immediately, obviously -- as I'm told was the talking point on CNN and MSNBC last night, as both networks chose to ignore the Manchester attack and only occasionally run a chyron about it. (A commenter tells me my source is wrong and that CNN did cover it, some. Obviously, though, I was being a bit hyperbolic in my original claim.)

I'll Ride With You Update: The "invent false stories to change the narrative" script has been deployed already.

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29  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Debbie Wasserman Schultz-- criminal investigation 2.0 on: May 24, 2017, 04:30:20 PM

Impossible! The dems would never politicize law enforcement!
30  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: OK, what is the sound bit answer to this? on: May 24, 2017, 04:29:11 PM

Your medical bills are yours, not mine. Get your hand out of my pocket.
31  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Corruption, Sleaze, Skullduggery, and Treason on: May 24, 2017, 03:36:10 PM

In that Media Matters is going after Hannity's advertisers for supporting this "tin foil conspiracy", this may turn out to be an important point.

Below you will find an actual conspiracy:

http://freebeacon.com/issues/judicial-watch-lois-lerner-doj-officials-and-fbi-met-to-plan-criminal-charges-for-obama-opponents/

Judicial Watch: Lois Lerner, DOJ Officials, and FBI Met to Plan Criminal Charges for Obama Opponents

     
BY: Chris Safran
July 7, 2015 4:57 pm

Newly obtained documents from the conservative educational foundation Judicial Watch detail an official memo from October 2010 of a meeting between Lois Lerner and officials at the Department of Justice and the FBI to plan for the prosecution of targeted nonprofit organizations.

A lawsuit filed under the Freedom of Information Act produced the documents which included the memo as well as revelations that the Justice Department wanted IRS employees to turn over sensitive documents before giving them to Congress, Judicial Watch said in a press release Tuesday.

In a letter from then-House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R., Calif.) to IRS Commissioner John Koskinen, Issa said "this revelation likely means that the IRS—including possibly Lois Lerner—violated federal tax law by transmitting this information to the Justice Department."



An IRS document confirms that the organization supplied the FBI with 21 computer disks containing 1.25 million pages of confidential information from more than 113,000 tax returns.

"The FBI and Justice Department worked with Lois Lerner and the IRS to concoct some reason to put President Obama’s opponents in jail before his reelection, and this abuse resulted in the FBI’s illegally obtaining confidential taxpayer information," Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch, said in the release.

Lerner, a former IRS official, was at the center of past allegations that the agency had targeted conservative groups applying for 501(c)(4) nonprofit status. More than 6,000 Lerner emails thought to be lost were turned over to the Senate Finance Committee in April.

The new documents shed light on the relationship between various agencies in the Obama administration and their plans to gain access to unredacted documents forbidden under federal tax law, according to Judicial Watch
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The memo followed an Oct. 8 meeting with representatives from the Justice Department and "one representative from the FBI" to discuss the prosecution of nonprofit organizations for alleged political activities.

"How can the Justice Department and FBI investigate the very scandal in which they are implicated?" Fitton said in the release.

In his letter to Koskinen, Issa asked why information about the 1.25 million pages was withheld from the committee for a year. He also requested all documents relating to the information transfer between the IRS, the Justice Department, and the FBI.
32  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: State Dept redacts contract to resettle Muslim refugees on: May 24, 2017, 01:58:16 PM
Bringing third world savages to wage war on your citizens isn't cheap or easy. But diversity!


State Dept. Redacts Big Chunks of $22.8 Mil Contract to Resettle Muslim Refugees

MAY 24, 2017

The U.S. government spends billions of dollars to “resettle” foreign nationals and transparency on how the money is spent depends on the agency involved. Judicial Watch has been investigating it for years, specifically the huge amount of taxpayer dollars that go to “voluntary agencies”, known as VOLAGs, to provide a wide range of services for the new arrivals. Throughout the ongoing probe Judicial Watch has found a striking difference on how government lawyers use an exemption, officially known as (b)(4), to the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) to withhold records. All the cases involve public funds being used to resettle foreigners on U.S. soil and Americans should be entitled to the records.

The (b)(4) exemption permits agencies to withhold trade secrets and commercial or financial information obtained from a person which is privileged or confidential. Depending on the government agency and the mood of the taxpayer-funded lawyers handling public records requests, that information is exempt from disclosure. In these cases, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) disclosed a VOLAG contract to resettle tens of thousands of Unaccompanied Alien Children (UAC) that entered the U.S. through Mexico under the Obama administration while the State Department withheld large portions of a one-year, $22.8 million deal to resettle refugees from Muslim countries. Most of the UACs came from El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala and the Obama administration blamed the sudden surge on violence in the three central American nations. The agency responsible for resettling the minors and issuing contracts for the costly services is HHS.

As a result of Judicial Watch’s work HHS furnished records  with virtually nothing redacted. Disclosed were employee salaries of VOLAGs contracted by the agency to provide services for the illegal immigrant minors, the cost of laptops, big screen TVs, food, pregnancy tests, “multicultural crayons” and shower stalls for the new arrivals. The general contract was to provide “basic shelter care” for 2,400 minors for a period of four months in 2014. This cost American taxpayers an astounding $182,129,786 and the VOLAG contracted to do it was government regular called Baptist Children and Family Services (BCFS). The breakdown includes charges of $104,215,608 for UACs at Fort Sill, Oklahoma and an additional $77,914,178 for UACs at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas.

HHS rightfully provided all sorts of details in the records, including the cost of emergency surge beds ($104,215,608) for just four months; food for the illegal alien minors and staff ($18,198,000); medical supplies such as first aid kits, latex gloves, lice shampoo and pregnancy tests ($1,120,400); recreation items such as board games, soccer balls and jump ropes ($180,000); educational items like art paper and multicultural crayons ($180,000); laptops ($200,000) and cellphones ($160,000). Hotel accommodations for the BCFS staff was $6,765,000, the records show, and the salary for a 30-member “Incident Management Team” was $2,648,800, which breaks down to $88,293 per IMT member for the four-month period. It was outrageous that the Obama administration spent nearly $200 million of taxpayer funds to provide illegal alien children with the types of extravagant high-tech equipment and lavish benefits many American families cannot even afford for their own children.

This has become a heated issue for the government which may explain why other agencies aren’t as forthcoming in providing specific figures, thus abusing the (b)(4) exemption. The State Department, for instance, redacted huge portions of records involving contracts with VOLAGs to resettle refugees from mostly Muslim countries. The files illustrate the disparate redaction treatment given by different government agencies to the same types of records. The State Department paid a VOLAG called United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) a ghastly  $22,838,173 in one year to resettle refugees that came mostly from Muslim countries. Unlike HHS, the agency redacted information related to what the USCCB charged the government for things like furniture, personnel, equipment and other costs associated with contracts to resettle refugees. Why did one government agency hand over the same types of records that another agency claims are trade secrets? Judicial Watch is challenging the State Department’s (b)(4) exemption and will provide updates as they become available.

HHS and the State Department work with nine VOLAGs to resettle refugees and the voluntary agencies have hundreds of contractors they like to call “affiliates.” It’s a huge racket that costs American taxpayers monstrous sums and Judicial Watch is working to pinpoint the exact amount. Besides BCFS and USCCB, other VOLAGs with lucrative government gigs to resettle refugees are: Church World Service, Ethiopian Community Development Council, Episcopal Migration Ministries, Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, International Rescue Committee, U.S. Committee for Refugees and Immigrants, Lutheran Immigration Refugee Services and World Relief Corporation.

33  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Suspects no longer on: May 24, 2017, 01:55:23 PM

This is why lefty cities are so safe and crime free.
34  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Middle East: War, Peace, and SNAFU, TARFU, and FUBAR on: May 24, 2017, 12:25:21 PM
Jordan already is past full with refugees.

VERY bad for US if Jordan falls into chaos and war.

I'm pretty sure Jordan has already stopped taking in refugees.
35  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Israeli officers have a better strategy for Trump on: May 24, 2017, 12:18:07 PM


http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/05/22/israeli-officers-to-trump-youre-doing-isis-wrong-215172

Their idea sounds good.

Question:  What about the refugees created?

*Who cares? Not our problem. Their fellow muslims can see to them.


Question:  What about the ever increasing solidity of the Russian-Iranian axis?  Does not Trump's strategy of getting the Sunnis lined up against it have the same "let them all fight it out" essence to it?

*I'm all for a massive Sunni-Shia war. Let them burn.



36  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Corruption, Sleaze, Skullduggery, and Treason on: May 24, 2017, 12:13:07 PM
"We know that Seth’s personal email and his personal computer were both inspected by detectives early in the investigation and that the inspection revealed no evidence of any communications with anyone at WikiLeaks or anyone associated with WikiLeaks. Nor did that inspection reveal any evidence that Seth had leaked DNC emails to WikiLeaks or to anyone else. Indeed, those who have suggested that Seth’s role as a data analyst at the DNC gave him access to a wide trove of emails are simply incorrect — Seth’s job was to develop analytical models to encourage voters to turn out to vote. He didn’t have access to DNC emails, Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee emails, John Podesta’s emails or Hillary Clinton’s emails. That simply wasn’t his job."

How do we know this? Citation please.
37  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Emergency plan in case of jihad on: May 24, 2017, 09:46:33 AM
Drive them out.
What? And miss out on the vibrant multicultural society europe has crafted?



You are going to suffer losses, like the 11 year old girl above, but Diversity!

Besides, I have been told islam is a religion of peace. By people with Credentials. Who are we to question that?


38  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Emergency plan in case of jihad on: May 24, 2017, 09:00:08 AM


http://thedeclination.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/emergency-plan-in-case-of-terrorist-attack-in-major-european-city-tearful-cartoons-facebook-flag-crying-on-tv-light-up-building-wait-repeat.jpg
39  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Enabling Murder on: May 24, 2017, 08:48:55 AM
https://www.city-journal.org/html/enabling-murder-15209.html

Enabling Murder
Western politicians worry more about being called “Islamophobic” than they do about stopping jihadist slaughter.
Bruce Bawer
May 23, 2017 Public safetyPolitics and law

Damn these jihadist murderers of children. And damn the politicians who have, in many cases, helped make these murders possible but who are quick, this time and every time, to serve up empty declarations of “solidarity”even as the bodies of innocents are still being counted.
London mayor Sadiq Khan (who recently dismissed terrorist attacks as “part and parcel of living in a big city”): “London stands with Manchester.” Orlando mayor Buddy Dyer (who, in the wake of the Pulse nightclub massacre, proclaimed a CAIR-backed “Muslim Women’s Day”—you know, the kind of event that proclaims hijabs “empowering”): Orlando “stands in solidarity with the people of the UK.” L.A. mayor Eric Garcetti (who went berserk when Trump tried to impose that temporary travel ban from a half-dozen Muslim countries): “Los Angeles stands with the people of Manchester.”
Meaningless words, all of them. But Angela Merkel takes the cake: “People in the UK can rest assured that Germany stands shoulder to shoulder with them.” Well, isn’t that . . . reassuring. In what way do such words help anybody to “rest assured” of anything? In any case, how dare she? This, after all, is the woman who opened the floodgates—the woman who, out of some twisted sense of German historical guilt, put European children in danger by inviting into the continent masses of unvetted people from the very part of the world where this monstrous evil has its roots.
Then there was this from European Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker: “Once again, terrorism has sought to instill fear where there should be joy, to sow division where young people and families should be coming together in celebration.” Beneath the innocuous-seeming surface of this statement is a slick rhetorical ruse: Juncker to the contrary, these savages aren’t out to “sow division”—they’re out to kill infidels. By introducing the concept of “division,” Juncker, like so many others, is implying that the important message here is: Hey, whatever you do, don’t let this little episode put any bad thoughts about Islam into your head!
Manchester City Council leader Sir Richard Leese also spoke of “fear” and “division”: “Manchester is a proud, strong city and we will not allow terrorists who seek to sow fear and division to achieve their aims.” Guess what, pal? They did achieve their aims: they killed 22 people, including children, and injured several dozen. Dead infidels: that’s their objective, period. (Or, as you would say, full stop.)
Naturally, Manchester’s mayor, Andy Burnham, put out a statement. Burnham, as it happens, is a radical socialist who has wrung his hands for years about Islamophobia and has fought tooth and nail against a nationwide “anti-extremism” program called Prevent on the grounds that it “singles out one community for different treatment.” After yesterday’s atrocity, Burnham said: “We are grieving today, but we are strong.”
Strong? No, Mr. Burnham, you are anything but strong. You are cowards, all of you. You are more scared of being called bigots than of the prospect of children under your official protection being slaughtered by jihadists.
Three-quarters of a century ago, Britain stood shoulder to shoulder in true solidarity while under violent assault by the diabolical ideology of Nazism. Today, its leaders speak of the same kind of solidarity—but it’s nothing but talk. In Rotherham, gangs of Muslim men sexually abused 1,400 girls—and police and other officials who knew about it did nothing for years lest they be accused of racism or Islamophobia. Almost certainly, similar mass-scale rapes are still occurring right now in other British cities, with similar silence and inaction on the part of pusillanimous authorities. Today, British leaders refuse to deport imams who preach murder but ban from their shores respected writers and knowledgeable critics of Islam who dare to take on those imams and their theology.
Strength? Don’t you dare speak of strength. You have the blood of innocent children on your hands.
40  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Nearly half of females fail army infantry training, standards lowered. on: May 23, 2017, 09:14:21 PM

I'm sure our current and future enemies will be sure to take it easy on them.
41  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Corruption, Sleaze, Skullduggery, and Treason on: May 23, 2017, 08:59:09 PM
So don't make it easy for them.

Trump was Trump before the election. It isn't like he has changed. I am more concerned with him following through on his promises.
42  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Corruption, Sleaze, Skullduggery, and Treason on: May 23, 2017, 07:24:25 PM
Seems like high risk for bad optics.

No matter what Trump does or doesn't do, the MSM will spin it in the worst possible light.
43  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Race, religion, Another look inside that parked car on: May 23, 2017, 11:55:03 AM
http://dogbrothers.com/phpBB2/index.php?topic=404.msg103727#msg103727
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This story intersects Race, Religion, Urban issues and Homeland Security.  Assault rifles and bomb parts, this could have been the Manchester story if not for the action of a concerned citizen, a black man who took offense that these Muslims were tossing their trash into our streets.  The altercation led to the discovery of perhaps a threat in progress.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/05/another-look-inside-that-parked-car.php

Funny how the NSA's dragnet of all global comms never rolls these guys up.
44  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters on: May 23, 2017, 11:53:58 AM
" I expect Marc Rich's computer to go missing or get lost somehow. "

Or hard drive removed tampered with then put back or replaced with only partial data. This is what I have seen though not at national security levels obviously.
  Though I agree it  simply disappearing ala Hillary/Bill/DNC would be the safest mode of disposing of incriminating evidence.
  (Oh but it's storage is safe in a DC police station.   rolleyes)

Why would Comey not have demanded access to it and had it forensically evaluated?  Is not that the death was mysterious, the victim a noted disgruntled Sanders supporter enough grounds to look into the possibility that he not Russia etc gave the  emails to Wikileaks?

yet we take the word of some DNC hired Ukranian security firm as though it is gospel.  (as pointed out by Rush L)

Bottom line :

If it helps republicans the MSM makes it into some "crazy right wing conspiracy" theory.  But if it helps libs it is "proof", and a  guilty to proven innocent attitude ,yada yada......

The whole reason it was taken by law enforcement would be for the purpose of examining the contents of the computer. If Rich had forwarded the DNC emails from this computer, that would be easy to determine. Unless it had been wiped like Hillary's servers.

45  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / According to Libertarian theory, this shouldn't be happening on: May 23, 2017, 11:32:31 AM
http://kdvr.com/2017/03/03/black-market-marijuana-business-booming/

Black market marijuana business booming in Colorado
POSTED 6:20 PM, MARCH 3, 2017, BY CARISA SCOTT, UPDATED AT 07:52PM, MARCH 3, 2017
   

Black market marijuana business booming

DENVER -- The Denver Police Department said Colorado’s illegal marijuana business is thriving.

"The black market marijuana is booming," Cmdr. James Henning said.

Last year, Denver police arrested 242 people for illegally growing, selling or extracting marijuana. Henning's team seized 8,913 pounds of marijuana last year.

“That’s driven simply by the old laws of supply and demand. People are buying marijuana for a low price and buying low and selling it high," he said.

Local police work with the Drug Enforcement Administration to eradicate illegal grows across the state, including several outdoor cultivation sites in Pueblo, Mesa, El Paso and Garfield counties.

Pictures released by the DEA and police show hundreds of potted, pruned and THC-producing plants confiscated on the black market. Police say the illegal business is not only booming, it’s increasingly more dangerous.

“We are finding more weapons, They are a little edgier. We know that in that black market, there’s a lot of ripoffs and robberies going on, but nobody reports it to us because you don’t report that you are robbed while doing an illegal activity," Henning said.

Law enforcement said the illegal market is flooded with high-quality Colorado medicinal marijuana. Red card users can buy 2 ounces a day for $100 to $150. Users can turn around and sell an ounce for $350 to $400.

Statistics from state patrol agencies across the country show Colorado marijuana mainly goes to seven states, with 65 percent of the weed coming from Denver.

In just three years, law enforcement across the country have seized about 4.5 tons of marijuana from Colorado.

Ads on Craigslist promise “safe dealings” and “overnight delivery” to out-of-state buyers. Police say it’s all buying and selling on the black market.

“We also have many local investigations anywhere from your small Craigslist operation where a guy is on Craigslist saying or offering you marijuana right now or I can ship marijuana anywhere in the United States. It’s all 100 percent illegal,” said Henning.

Users said Colorado’s marijuana market might have stopped low-quality weed from coming into the state, but it has opened the door for millions worth of top quality illegal weed to be sold tax free outside the state.

46  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Islam in Europe and pre-emptive dhimmitude on: May 23, 2017, 10:57:20 AM
Religion of peace.  It never turns out​ to be the Lutheran extremists anymore, does it?

"Known" wolf, as opposed to lone wolf.  Bad analogy. Wolves don't do this.

A tweet about the first identified victim:
"There was not one bad bone in her body she was a true ray of sunshine and loved everyone for who they were.”

I've never heard of the singer, took a look at a couple of her videos. One has a billion views on YouTube.  There is a young, cute, sexiness to the music.  Young male Muslims want young virgins and rape young women, but can't handle young cute sexiness.

When do we start calling islamist extremism a dangerous mental disorder instead of a religion.



If we started facing the hard truth rather than the usual teddy bears and flowers and sad faces on social media, we might have to do something about it. Can't have that.
47  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: No need for them to worry on: May 23, 2017, 10:52:08 AM

Always happy to see gun control advocates being protected by men with guns.
48  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters on: May 23, 2017, 10:50:00 AM
Brennan: 

Mr. Brennan, the former C.I.A. director, said Tuesday that he became concerned last year that the Russian government was trying to influence members of the Trump campaign to act — wittingly or unwittingly — on Moscow’s behalf.

“I encountered and am aware of information and intelligence that revealed contacts and interactions between Russian officials and U.S. persons involved in the Trump campaign that I was concerned about because of known Russian efforts to suborn such individuals,” Mr. Brennan told lawmakers on the House Intelligence Committee.

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“It raised questions in my mind about whether Russia was able to gain the cooperation of those individuals,” he said, adding that he did not know whether the Russian efforts were successful.

He added, “I don’t know whether such collusion existed.”


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me:   can anyone imagine if he had instead said there is 8no evidence of any collusion*?  Slightly re wording this makes all the difference.  Even if a conclusion finally comes , God knows when, that no collusion was found the LEFT will for ever and ever claim it existed but was just not found.   

The right should start labelling them as quack "conspiracy theorists "

Why are not the intelligence agencies investigating reports of the DNC staffer being the source of the DNC email leaks to wikileaks?

Because that would be too easy to prove or disprove. I expect Marc Rich's computer to go missing or get lost somehow.
49  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Corruption, Sleaze, Skullduggery, and Treason on: May 23, 2017, 10:47:42 AM
If Hillary had done this, or Chelsea their pictures would be on the cover of all the women's journals with God like adoration.

 wink

The Huff compost would have a soundbite of glass shattering and a heroines welcome mat for Ivanka.

Seems like a good PR idea.   IS the World Bank trustworthy with all this money?

No, it's not.
50  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Islam in Europe and pre-emptive dhimmitude on: May 23, 2017, 10:46:58 AM
GM,

Even if they can never prove it, you and I know who was really behind the Manchester bomb attack.

Even if we can never find the link it is clear the Russians were colluding with the suicide bomber(s).

The Russians and Fox News!!!!!!!11!!!!!!!!
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