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1  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Middle East: War, Peace, and SNAFU, TARFU, and FUBAR on: November 26, 2015, 09:44:14 PM
My money is on Putin getting payback, and NATO crumbling.
2  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: We are fuct on: November 26, 2015, 05:38:34 PM
Aside from all the peace and prosperity, my favorite part of the Obama era is the racial healing.

IMHO this is an EXTREMELY significant development:

My initial snap impressions:

We just lost dominance of the skies.

Israel just lost dominance of the skies.

Russia-Iranian-Shia Iraq-Syria-Hezbollah arc will solidify.  

Iran is going nuclear and will develop further its already significant missile capablilties.  Iran will continue to foment in Yemen, Saudi Arabia already cannot handle the pressure and Shia Saudi Arabia, now more brazenly supported by Iran, will get increasingly more restless.  This will apply to the tiny countries the east coast of the Arabian Peninsula as well.  The position of the House of Saud will become increasingly tenuous-- its' fall is a possibility.

I'm not seeing ANY viable strategy for us in the Middle East.

Russia is now in a position to disrespect a NATO ally Turkey to legally defend the skies of Syria at Syria's request.

Russia is now in a position to fukc further with West/US in Ukraine.

Russia is now in a position to further destabilize NATO further with intimidation tactics with regard to NATO allies Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia.

France will turn increasingly to alliance with Russia (remember those navy assault ships they were so set upon selling to the Russians?) and left in the middle so too will Germany as it deals with one million new Arab Muslim refugee invaders.

What will happen with the Euro Union?  The Euro?  Free movement?  Will they survive?

Russia is now in a position to nakedly assert its power play in the Arctic.

China will seal its control of the South China Sea.

Islam will destabilize Europe.

American homeland is now in cross hairs of Islamic Fascism.

Happy Thanksgiving , , ,
3  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Stassi Barbie on: November 26, 2015, 09:49:13 AM

4  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iman who issued death fatwa gets DOJ contract on: November 25, 2015, 11:44:56 PM

Well, if we are going to exclude every imam from employment for issuing a death fatwa, how can we hire any imam ?

Obvious islamophobia
5  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / CNN "Journalist" Caught Red-Handed Doing Media Favors for Hillary on: November 25, 2015, 04:44:24 PM

CNN "Journalist" Caught Red-Handed Doing Media Favors for Hillary; Politico's Mike Allen Caught Red-Handed Promising Hillary's People a "No Surprises" Interview of Chelsea, in Which Questions Would Be Worked Out Beforehand

Hillary wanted some self-serving quotes publicized, and CNN's "journalist" -- the same one who just got suspended for her liberal angst about concerns about Syrian refugees -- duly complied.

She also hit Rand Paul for not attending all the hearings -- just as she was seemingly asked.

Here's that journalist reporting back to Team Hillary about the anti-Rand-Paul tweet she'd tweeted out at their apparent behest:

She also pumped out this quote that Hillary's people wanted out there:

Meanwhile, Gawker catches Politico's Mike Allen promising the Hillary staff (Phil Reines, I think) a "no surprises" interview of Chelsea. I won't link them, but instead will link the Washington Post's alleged journalistic column "The Fix," which, when presented with evidence that a liberal colleague in the media is promising against-the-rules favors to a liberal politician, affixes blame squarely where it belongs: on conservative critics of the media who allege that liberal reporters do favors for liberal politicians.

Here's Mike Allen's email promising a very cozy, reputation-boosting interview for the black hole of negative charisma Chelsea:

    We're hosting a Politico New Leaders Brunch on Sunday, Jan. 20, with a brief on-stage interview with moi. We would love to honor Chelsea Clinton, and it sounds like she has some issues, marriage and others, that she enjoys talking about these days. This would be a way to send a message during inaugural week: No one besides me would ask her a question, and you and I would agree on them precisely in advance.

    This would be a relaxed conversation, and our innovative format (like a speedy Playbook Breakfast) always gets heavy social-media pickup. The interview would be "no surprises:" I would work with you on topics, and would start with anything she wants to cover or make news on. Quicker than a network hit, and reaching an audience you care about with no risk.

The Washington Post's The Fix column immediately spins for their pal, and lets you know who the real villains are here.

    A bit of context might be helpful here, since we’re talking about events that happened almost three years ago: President Obama had just been reelected, and Allen was requesting an interview with Chelsea Clinton on inauguration weekend, which is basically one big party in DC. The news of the moment in Clinton world was that Hillary was just a couple weeks away from stepping down as secretary of state, having previously said she would not serve in Obama’s second term.

    One interpretation of Allen’s e-mail to Philippe Reines, the Clinton aide, goes something like this: Hey, I’m looking for just a few minutes with Chelsea during an important time for her mom. This isn’t a probing,"“60 Minutes"-style sit-down, so don't worry about fielding anything out of left field.

    Not so bad, right?

    But the Republican translation will likely go more like this: What can I do to make Chelsea look good because, as we all know, I and my Web site (and most of the media) live to serve the royal family of the Democratic Party.

    The GOP field has already put the media on blast this campaign season. There was that memorable rant by Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas during the third primary debate....

He then goes on to note, disapprovingly, the criticisms lodged about the media by Republican candidates.

Elsewhere in the article, he casts Republican criticisms of the media as phantasmal -- though allowing that this incident looks like it could be evidence of that paranoid fear.

    And you can bet the Republican presidential candidates -- who often accuse the media of pro-Clinton bias-- will pounce on this as confirmation of that belief. It's a ready-made "liberal media" conspiracy theory...

    Republican White House hopefuls sometimes go looking for bias where it's not obvious, or nonexistent. But, in this case, they won't have to look very hard. This time, Politico made their job easy.

Pro-tip for The Fix: A conspiracy requires more than one person. Mike Allen's wrongdoing was just his wrongdoing.

It's your rushing to his defense, and attacking his critics, all over an incident you concede looks very bad, that makes it a liberal conspiracy.

You're all in this together, and you make it more obvious every single day.

Glenn Thrush: We Do This All The Time. It's No Big Deal.

Correction: Chris Cilizza is the main voice of The Fix, but he's not the only voice -- and he did not write this particular column. I have omitted his name from the post.
6  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Nothing to Believe In on: November 25, 2015, 08:38:32 AM

November 24, 2015
Fundamental Concepts - Nothing to Believe In [Weirddave]

The latest surge by ISIS has brought to the fore one of the hallmarks of modern leftism, and that is their absolute refusal to process facts that conflict with their worldview. Here we have ISIS, a murderous, genocidal Islamic supremacy group. They have stated quite openly that they intend to carve a caliphate out for themselves by any means necessary, and by “by any means” they mean as violently as possible. They view the West, Christianity, Secular Humanists, Hindus, everybody who doesn’t conform to their brand of Islam as the enemy, and they have only one tactic for dealing with the enemy : kill them and keep on killing them until they are either all dead or their remnant is so cowed that they convert to Islam. They justify this using the Koran and various Hadiths and they will quite happily tell anyone who will listen exactly what they believe is divine rational for their actions.

You or I look at this and say “Huh. These assholes want to kill us. Let’s arm ourselves and prepare. Let’s go out and kill them first to protect our weak and vulnerable. They have demonstrated again and again that they are serious, we should take them at their word”. To us, this is the most basic common sense. When ISIS says that they are going to smuggle terrorists in amongst Syrian refuges to kill us at home, something they have demonstrated the ability to do as recently as last week, we think it’s simply prudent to halt an influx of refugees that we can not verify free of terrorists. Again, simple common sense.

Our leaders, the so called smart set, don’t seem to agree, and an increasing percentage of the population is realizing that what we see as blindingly obvious, they don’t see at all? Why? I’ve seen this question asked more than once this past week on social media and in the press, and have yet to hear a good answer. It quite simply makes no sense.

When talking about leftists in the United States, it would be logical to assume that their denial of reality is tied to their investment in fantasy, and I do think that that is a part of it. They are absolutely committed to the Lightbringer narrative. Obama was supposed to do nothing less than change the way the world works, and the fact that he hasn’t must be obfuscated at all costs. The reality that his idiotic graduate school Utopian mindset has CAUSED many of these problems is blackest heresy that must never be spoken of out loud. There is a generous dollop of that amongst Proggys here, but Left Wing European elites have no reason to shield Obama from criticism, and yet they feel the same way. So what exactly is the reason that these people so stridently deny reality?

I think the roots go back to WWI. It is hard for us raised in a post WWI (and WWII) world to understand exactly how shattering WWI was to the psyche of the West. Tens of millions dead, the cream of an entire generation ripped from the bosom of their homes to be extinguished in the bloody horror of Gallipoli, Ypers and The Somme. Prior to WWI, the West (and by this we mean Christendom), had an unbounded confidence that it was the pinnacle of human achievement, leading the way to a brighter future (which came to pass, just look around at the material wonders of life in the West today). Post WWI the West recoiled from what it had done (only to do it again a generation later) and allowed a societal rot to take root and spread. Since traditional morals had so failed Christendom, then they must be done away with and replaced.

I’m going to fast forward a little bit over the details, books have been written about things like moral relativism, Marxist theory and secular humanism, but once you get to today you find that the vast majority of our “elites” share a mindset that makes them virtually incapable of responding to a threat like ISIS.

These people believe in the primacy of self. The ultimate end all be all of the universe is the 2.2 lbs of cabbage they have between their ears. Just their ears, what other people may think or believe has no bearing on the universe if it disagrees with their precious worldview. Now, it’s fine and dandy to recognize that the brain is the only tool we have to understand the universe. It is folly unbound to demand that the universe reconfigure itself to match the wishes of the brain. That is arrogance at its rawest, and that is what we see daily from the Left.

Obama arrogantly speaks of “universal values” without realizing that no, the values he’s referring to are anything but universal and in fact they are the product of a religious and moral code that he rejects.

The elites arrogantly reject that ISIS can hurt the West. Oh sure, they may kill some random members of the hoi polloi, but that won’t affect THEM. And it might not. Until it does, or until the hoi polloi get tired of bleeding all over the place and decide to make some changes.

The media arrogantly denies that the terrorists themselves have any agency. They constantly seek to excuse their bloody attacks by excusing them as pawns or blaming society, imperialism, Christians, corporations, BOOOOSH! Capitalism or whatever.

Most of all, what all of these smug assholes fail to accept, steeped as they are in their philosophy of self and blinded by the myth of their superior intellects, is that there are billions of people out there who do not subscribe to their selfish worldview: people who believe in something larger then themselves and who act upon those beliefs. They can’t understand it when they run across it in their own culture for God’s sake (That Christians might have an honest belief that homosexuality is a sin does not compute. Christians MUST be bigots, or homophobes or haters), they have no chance at recognizing it in a foreign one. Last week in Paris, one of the terrorists calmly went down a row of handicapped people in wheelchairs and calmly executed each and every one of them in turn. I guarantee you that as this evil man calmly committed this bloody and evil act, he felt in his heart the same satisfaction that you do when you give money to a homeless man Mr. Elite. These people have their own beliefs and the free will to act upon them. They will tell you all about them if you ask, and even if you don’t. They are PROUD of what they are doing. They BRAG about their bloody ways. THEY MEAN WHAT THEY SAY.

Unfortunately, that is so utterly foreign to the worldview of our so-called elites that they just don’t get it, and I doubt the ever will because it contradicts that worldview completely. To understand they would have to let go of the arrogance that sustains them, and that’s a very hard row to hoe.

And that leaves us screwed. How can we defeat out enemies if we refuse to take them seriously?
7  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: New Russian bomb in action on: November 25, 2015, 08:36:11 AM

I'm calling BS.
8  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Where is the leftist outrage and media coverage? on: November 24, 2015, 05:29:23 PM

MIA. Why?
9  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / MSNBC's poster boy for islamophobia arrested on: November 24, 2015, 05:15:50 PM

Islam is a religion of peace!
10  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues, Syrian refugees on: November 24, 2015, 04:14:43 PM
Let's be clear, these refugees aren't all terrorists. 

Factoring the survey results ( with the 10,000 Syrian refugees Obama plans to bring to the United States means Obama will bring in 1,300 ISIS supporters and a total of 3,100 who do not want the US to defeat ISIS.

Survey has margin of error + or - 4%.

What could possibly go wrong?

Islam is a religion of peace!
11  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Who's up for a little Tom Clancy novel? on: November 24, 2015, 07:59:28 AM
Becomes today's headlines....

I'm sure Putin will be fine with this.
12  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Glibness, Let's not overreact to ISIS attacks on: November 23, 2015, 05:04:15 PM

"ISIS cannot strike a mortal blow" against the U.S.(still the J_V team), and he warned [against] overreacting to the Paris attacks

ISIS can't because Obama is.
13  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: A different take on the zero refugees by Saudi Arabia et al on: November 23, 2015, 05:03:27 PM
Putting aside the tendentious tone of the author, does he have a point?

I doubt it. The Saudis are very nervous about their security environment now. The last thing they want is to import unvettable military age males or black widows. The author is most likely acting as a paid or unpaid press flak for the Saudis, IMHO.

Saudi Arabia Received 2.5 Million Syrians since Beginning of Conflict
September 11, 2015

(Washington, DC) – The Saudi Ministry of Foreign Affairs issued a statement today addressing the Kingdom’s efforts to support the Syrian people. Saudi Arabia has been one of the largest providers of aid to Syria’s people, and has taken in millions of citizens from the war-torn country.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs explained that the following actions have been taken by Saudi Arabia:

    The Kingdom has received around 2.5 million Syrians since the beginning of the conflict. In order to ensure their dignity and safety, the Kingdom adopted the policy not to treat them as refugees or place them in refugee camps. They have been given the freedom to move about the country, and those who wish to remain in Saudi Arabia (some hundreds of thousands) have been given legal residency status like the remaining residents. Their residency comes with the rights to receive free medical care, to join the labor market and to attend schools and universities. This was contained in a royal decree in 2012 that instructed public schools to accept Syrian students. According to government statistics, the public school system has accepted more than 100,000 Syrian students.

    The Kingdom’s efforts were not limited to accepting our Syrian brothers and sisters after their crisis; it also extended its efforts to support and care for millions of Syrian refugees in neighboring countries such as Jordan, Lebanon and others.  Efforts included providing humanitarian assistance in coordination with the host governments and with international human aid organizations. Aid was provided in the form of money and goods.

    The aid provided by Saudi Arabia to the Syrian people totals around $700 million, according to the statistics of the Third International Humanitarian Pledging Conference for Syria, which took place in Kuwait on March 31, 2015. Government aid and aid provided by the National Campaign are included in that figure.

    Humanitarian aid provided to Syrians by the Kingdom consisted of food and medical, academic, and residential supplies, and included the establishment of Saudi specialized clinics in refugee camps, most importantly the Zaatari Camp in Jordan. The Kingdom was able to provide medical care in the form of immunizations, preventive treatments and medical procedures. In addition, Saudi Arabia sponsored a large number of Syrian families living in Lebanon and Syria (specifically paying for their rent and living costs).

14  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: California on: November 23, 2015, 05:49:08 AM
I was offered a potential gig doing open source intelligence for a PI firm in SoCal at 40 bucks an hour. Told them I would not live in California. Short term gig, maybe. No residency.
15  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Refugee Victory Garden? on: November 22, 2015, 04:13:55 PM
More thoughts on winning the war culturally.

1. Bring in masses of unvettable islamic savages.

2. Huh

16  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Vote with your feet! on: November 22, 2015, 04:10:29 PM

There are better places to live.
17  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Pentagon expands inquiry into distortion of Middle East analyses on: November 22, 2015, 02:43:42 PM

Obama lied, Europe died.
18  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Military Science, Military Issues, and the Nature of War on: November 22, 2015, 03:01:23 AM
Europe existing in 20 years is quite optimistic.
19  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Serious player with a serious strategy on: November 21, 2015, 06:35:35 PM
I have some big questions about some aspects of this, but the man's track record is serious and his ideas deserve serious consideration:

Treat ISIL like the Taliban? Hammer it initially then pull out and give everything back?
20  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Should "No Fly List" be a "No Gun Buy List"? on: November 21, 2015, 06:32:16 PM
Sen. Feinstein has proposed that the No Fly List become a No Gun Buy List.  Apparently the NRA and Reps disagree.

I must say that on its face her bill has a certain obvious logic AND opposing it may well be profoundly stupid politically.

Yes, yes, lots of people on the list don't belong there, but given what we know about how porous we are to bad people getting in, do we really want them sashaying in to the local gun store and arming themselves for major hits on America?  What would be left of the wonderful pro-gun political consensus that we have built in the last twenty years?


Perhaps Lois Lerner could be coaxed from retirement to administer it?

We have given up on the rule of law, who needs due process?
21  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Saudi Arabia & the Arabian Peninsula on: November 21, 2015, 06:29:29 PM
The New Duranty Times and Slate are getting awful close to recognizing the core problem is islam.  shocked
22  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Articulating our cause/strategy against Islamic Fascism on: November 21, 2015, 04:39:12 AM
Calmly and dispassionately let's assess her proposed strategy.

That about covers it. Hillary is more proactive on the topic of defeating stand up comics that mock her.

This about captures it.
23  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Jihadis using games, tradecraft on: November 21, 2015, 03:44:41 AM

Nothing new.
24  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Intel Matters on: November 20, 2015, 06:06:56 PM
Pollard deserved a bullet.
25  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Sen.Ted Cruz on: November 20, 2015, 06:01:49 PM
We could actually secure our border rather than let anyone in and spy on everybody equally. Nah, that's crazy talk.
26  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Well, that sure inspires confidence! on: November 19, 2015, 11:16:29 PM

Lucky for us, DHS is administered by the qualified Jeh Johnson! Right bigdog?
27  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Larry Correra on Paris on: November 19, 2015, 10:33:18 PM

Thoughts on Paris

    November 16, 2015   correia45   331

I’ve not blogged much since getting back from tour. I’m still playing catch up. There has been a ton of things to comment on, so in brief:

Paris. Coming soon to a location near you. Mumbai, Beslan, and a thousand others, we’ve seen this before, and we’ll see it again.

On the personal, local level, this is another example of why you should carry a gun. No, we don’t expect every permit holder to be a Navy SEAL, just a speed bump. The best way to stop a mass shooter is an immediate violent response. At best, you drop them before they can hurt too many people. At worst, congratulations you were a distraction, but even distractions can save lives or derail plans.

Running is great. I’ll never fault somebody who chooses to run or hide when bad things happen. Every one of us has a different level of training, knowledge, and commitment, and what is the right answer for you, isn’t the right answer for your grandma. If you are the kind of person to get involved, you need to have a clue. However, since the only constant of gunfights is that they suck for somebody, you can do everything right and still die. On the bright side you at least bought everybody else some time.

For the pacifistic anti-gun dumb asses on the internet who always crop up in the aftermath of any violent event, bitching about imaginary crossfires, or how fighting back would just make things worse. Just shut up already. You’re children, with a child’s grasp of the subject. When people are being mass butchered, barring tossing hand grenades at the bad guy, it is pretty damned hard to make it worse.

Then I see the idiots claiming that they’re only worried about the quality of the regular people with guns… Liars. But okay, thought experiment time. Say there was a proposed law for a federal “super permit”, where if a regular person could pass a rigorous background check and, oh say, the same firearms qualification as an FBI agent, that individual would then be allowed to carry a gun anywhere in the fifty states a federal agent could, and ignore things like idiotic gun free zones, or could carry a gun in states where concealed carry is banned.

This doesn’t replace state laws. Heck, make the federal super permit really hard to get. Have it require a really high level of proficiency, a big knowledge of use of force laws, and one hell of a tough qualification. Make the applicant foot the bill for everything. And you know what? I bet you within a week we could still provide a million of my people as defense in depth, worst case scenario interrupters, spread all over America, for when bad things happen.

Would these people so worried about our level of training be in favor of this? Of course they wouldn’t. They’d find some other reason to bleat. And murderous assholes will continue to target disarmed populations.  Besides, this is just wishful thinking, because any federal program which would empower the general populace would be designed to suck and fail from the get go. Ask any pilot who went through the armed pilot training post 9-11 how easy the feds made that simple,obvious, no brainer program.

Other than learning to shoot, learn first aid. The main things to remember about gunshot wounds is direct pressure. For most of them there’s not much else you can do. Learn how to apply a tourniquet.

That’s all personal stuff that could actually help. You want to argue about putting a French flag over your profile pic, I don’t care if you do or not. Whatever makes you feel better. I’ve seen some people saying that if you want to actually make a difference you need to join the military. That’s great, but missing the point. We don’t have a lack of warriors problem, we have a lack of leadership problem.

Now, big picture. Militant Islamist Wahhibi douchebags want to kill you. Period. Don’t make excuses for them. Don’t try to explain them away. They literally want you to submit or die. This isn’t rocket science. Just ask them. They’ll tell you.

In our current stupid society, you can’t talk about this topic without being accused of racism. That’s just idiotic, since a religious philosophy isn’t a race. But these same idiots like to bitch about Christians being awful and look under every rock for an imagined slight to rail against. Only Christians aren’t blowing people up. But libs love to throw out the racism card to automatically shut down all dissent, because most cons are nice people, who don’t like being accused of being vile, repugnant things. So they shut up.

Like if you say, hey, maybe taking in tens of thousands of completely unvetted refugees from a war torn third world nation that is a hotbed of the philosophy that wants to saw our heads off is a bad idea… They scream racist.

For the people saying the refugees are vetted… How? The Syrian Bureau of Criminal Identification?  I’ve seen some people quoting the plaque from the Statue of Liberty. Really? Did you miss the point of what Ellis Island was for?

Do I feel bad for the actual refugees? Yep. The decent people are running from the same scumbags we’re worried about. However, that doesn’t mean the western world has to commit suicide in order to save everybody. It sucks. There’s evil in the world. Not having it on your doorstep makes it easier to treat it elsewhere. When you’ve got a disease you quarantine it. You don’t purposefully spread it everywhere. We’re in the position to help other countries only because ours isn’t currently on fire.

Some of you are under the mistaken impression that there is a good answer.

Another thing that I keep seeing are two opposing, equally idiotic schools of thought. The immediate knee jerk reaction of liberals flipping out about potential retaliatory hate crimes that almost never happen, but will eventually. Because push someone far enough, and they will inevitably lose their shit. Europeans are good at that.

And the other is the they’re all guilty, kill 1/6th of the world’s population, let God sort them out rage posters. Not getting into morality at all, that’s dumb just from a logistical and target selection stand point. That’s just good business. You’ve got a particular problem, focus on that specific rather than the overwhelming whole. Of course we aren’t fighting all Muslims. If we were fighting a billion people, you would know it. However, we are fighting millions. This isn’t some tiny, violent splinter group. This is a fairly wide spread, violent, jihadist, idealized imaginary history, philosophical movement, and they are motivated and think they can win.

The problem is that this murderous faction has taken over large swaths of everything, all over the world, and it has been going on for a long time. I’m not talking physically taking over either, but they’re in the mosques, in the leadership, and in the money. Yes, there are plenty of moderate Muslims who fight these people. That’s why the nut jobs spend most of their energy blowing up people who are supposedly of the same religion. There are bombings and shootings daily across the third world that barely make a blip in our media because they’re business as usual.

For the vast majority of the moderates however, what do we expect them to do? You can ally with the west, where you can fight against the death cultists, but the minute a progressive gets elected, you are going to get sold out and left to die. So why ally with us? Because the death cultists aren’t going anywhere. Those fuckers are committed.

Look at what happened to Iraq and Afghanistan. Why would any leader side with us now? America will come in, kick ass with the greatest fighting force ever… Oh, wait. MSNBC is upset. Buh bye. We’re out. Everybody who helped us get massacred. A year later, if they’re lucky they might get a hashtag on twitter, because that’s how America shows it cares.

Boko Haram, ISIS, and Hamas are all different groups, but they all share that idealistic, death cult, militant, asshole philosophy.

Barack Obama has two signature achievements. No seriously, check google. That’s all they can come up with.  Two. Obamacare and pulling out of Iraq. Obamacare is an expensive train wreck, that didn’t solve the problems it was supposed to, which raised everybody else’s costs, and now for the handful of the population it did help, all of the exchanges are imploding like everybody who can do math said they would. Brilliant. But back to Muslim extremists, we pulled out of Iraq, and Daesh rolled right in. Yay.

Meanwhile, the rest of the middle east fell apart. Hillary Clinton and John Kerry showed us the brilliance we’ve come to expect from democrat presidential candidates and did… shit. I can’t tell. Our administration totally sucked it up to the point that the western world was literally cheering Putin getting involved. How badly do you have to fuck up that your allies are happy the Russians moved in instead?

Mostly it looks like our State Department yelled at the one little country in the region who isn’t trying to blow us up, for being too mean to the philosophical allies of the people trying to blow us up, or for trying to stop the biggest country that wants to blow them up from getting a nuke, even though they get the population adjusted equivalent of a Paris attack all the freaking time.

Liberalism is a suicidal political philosophy that focuses on non-problems and ignores real problems. We’ve got an actual death cult massacring people? Well, we’d better crack down on regular Americans civil liberties. Hey, there’s a conservative organization in rural Nebraska that has absolutely nothing to do with militant Islam, better tap their phones and sick the IRS on them. We do security theater at the airports, while having a foreign policy that makes zero sense and no border. Bad guys are massacring people with machine guns they smuggled into a country with incredibly strict gun control? Well, we’d better double down on gun free zones to minimize the number of people who could effectively fight back. DHS leadership is issuing warnings about American veterans, while the actual guys fighting terrorists are stymied with rules that make absolutely no sense.

I’ve got a ton of fans who are feds. Oh, the horror stories I hear from these guys. So many plots have been foiled, so many bad guys have been caught, and the stuff they are worried that is coming next is frankly terrifying… I mean, we’ve not seen anything yet. There are some nightmare scenarios out there that I won’t talk about on the internet. But don’t worry, our administration’s greatest concern is climate change. They’re all over that.

Seriously, this bunch of fuck ups will go down in history as the most clueless administration we’ve had. ISIS is the JV team! They’re contained. We spent like half a billion dollars on a training program that produced, what? A squad? But even if we’d turned out an actual Syrian fighting force, because of stupid campaign promises to Code Pink, heaven forbid we let our SF guys do their freaking job, and actual lead or help, because that would be “boots on the ground”, and that is so much worse than having hundreds of thousands of refugees overwhelming the western world a year later.

The other day on book tour I was stuck in an airport watching CNN. I swear airports are the only place that play CNN anymore (and before anybody bitches at me about bias, I’m not a FOX news guy either. I cancelled cable years ago). I caught Obama’s speech about the Keystone Pipeline, and it was just asinine. The whole thing was bullshit. He talked about the lowered energy costs, as if that was his doing, and not because of North Dakota, and Saudi Arabia going all bargain basement to try and stop them. Hang on… Isn’t this the same administration that is always bitching about the evils of fracking. Yeah, heaven forbid we be energy independent. Because if you think things suck now, just wait until the house of Saud collapses, and the same militant asshole extremist JV team that we’ve contained so well rolls in there. But don’t worry, before that we’ve got a nuclear deal with Iran that will surely result in Peace in Our Time.

But that’s us. Europe has been following the liberal, progressive, pseudo-socialist path a lot longer than we have. Instead of doing little things that make sense all along, they’ll let the problem get really big and stupid, and then it is guillotines, gulags, and cattle cars. There’s a lot of really pissed off Europeans right now, and over the centuries we’ve got plenty of examples of what masses of pissed off Europeans do when pushed.

The death cultists are totally cool with that, because they truly believe they’re going to win the apocalypse. The only long term problems liberals can fixate on are imaginary ones that allow them to make the government more intrusive for regular law abiding citizens. So I expect everything to get far stupider from here on out.

For the super isolationist types of the Perhaps if We’re Nice They’ll Go Away school of foreign diplomacy, too late now. We’re dealing with a group of people who literally think they’re helping bring about the apocalypse, and that’s a good thing. Our leadership is made up of petulant children more worried about poop swastikas that may or may not have existed, than actual killers who believe in real oppression.

Solution? Beats the hell out of me. It certainly isn’t whatever it is we’ve been doing. The ball is now in Europe’s court. America’s bipolar leadership has abdicated responsibility. Europe can either decide it is in it to win it, and fight like their survival is at stake, or keep doing their thing. The extremists are happy to die, and they consider everybody on their side expendable.

My guess? Retaliation. Our warriors will do what they’re awesome at, and kill a whole bunch of assholes. Depending on how hard and fast we, or in this case the French, do it, that will stop a whole bunch of other attacks. However, innocent people will die as has happened in every war in human history, which will cause liberals to flip out, which will cause the west to go all half-hearted and stupidly forward. So nothing will get fixed. The west will go back to the next imaginary issue that allows liberals to be control freaks. The security apparatus will then go back to being an ever tightening ratchet against the wrong people. We’ll repeat this cycle until the west collapses, or one particular brand of religious philosophy is utterly annihilated forever.
28  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: How many refugees arrested, thrown out, etc? on: November 19, 2015, 09:54:14 PM

I'd score it a total fcuking lie made to be a propaganda talking point for leftist morons.
29  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Saudi Arabia & the Arabian Peninsula on: November 19, 2015, 08:59:32 PM
Somewhere we have a post about SA fibbing abut the refugees it claims to take in and asserting that in point of fact it has taken none.  Please help me find it.

Key facts:

    The six Gulf countries - Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Bahrain - have offered zero resettlement places to Syrian refugees.
    Other high income countries including Russia, Japan, Singapore and South Korea have also offered zero resettlement places.
30  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Syrians caught at Texas border on: November 19, 2015, 08:36:05 PM

Just here to contribute to Texas' growing homemade clock industry.
31  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Homeland Security, Border Protection, and American Freedom on: November 19, 2015, 08:32:59 PM

The officers involved will soon face a DOJ civil rights investigation, most likely.
32  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Harvard Prof: Europe is fuct on: November 19, 2015, 08:16:13 PM

Yup. Let it burn. Enjoy Andrez, this is what you wanted.
33  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Immigrants Welcome! on: November 18, 2015, 05:52:46 PM

34  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Syrians with Greek passports stopped in Honduras on: November 18, 2015, 05:36:03 PM

Took a wrong turn at Alburquerque?

So, passed up the sweet, sweet free sh*t in europe to struggle towards the US? I wonder why.
35  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues on: November 17, 2015, 03:36:04 PM
The missing Syrian immigrant has been Washington DC.

Go figure............guess he just wanted to see the Washington Monument. Maybe the Jefferson Memorial.....

Ah, a pilgrimage to show his gratitude to the USA, no doubt.
36  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues - Syrian Refugee already missing in LA on: November 17, 2015, 11:00:48 AM

Probably just partying on Bourbon Street.
37  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness, and cabinet on: November 17, 2015, 10:18:09 AM
John Kerry said:  We are all Pah-reee-zhans now.

Should have said:  We are all Israelis now.

Only right wing Americans feel an alliance with Israel. This president and his administration are waging a Cold War against Israel.
38  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Big Fatwa against ISIS on: November 17, 2015, 07:59:48 AM

"Somewhat controversial" per NPR.  rolleyes

Exclusive: Banned Cleric's Outspoken Deputy Visits White House

by Steven Emerson and John Rossomando
IPT News
June 26, 2013

Radical Egyptian cleric Yusuf Qaradawi is considered so radical that the United States bans him from entering the country.

Qaradawi, considered the spiritual leader of the Muslim Brotherhood movement, has called for the killing of Jews and Americans.

That history makes the June 13 White House meeting with Sheik Abdullah Bin Bayyah all the more inexplicable. Bin Bayyah is vice president of the International Union of Muslim Scholars (IUMS), a group founded by and headed by Qaradawi. The IUMS has a long history of supporting Hamas –a top Hamas leader is an IUMS member – and of calling for Israel's destruction.

Bin Bayyah's website claims that he met June 13 with senior Obama administration officials at the White House.

Nonetheless, it was the Obama administration which sought the meeting with Bin Bayyah, his website's account said.

"We asked for this meeting to learn from you and we need to be looking for new mechanisms to communicate with you and the Association of Muslim Scholars (another name used for the IUMS)," Gayle Smith, senior director of the National Security Council, reportedly said.

Bin Bayyah's June 13 account placed other senior officials in the meeting, including: Rashad Hussain, the U.S. special envoy to the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC), National Security Adviser Tom Donilon and White House spokeswoman Jennifer Palmieri. But the account was later changed to delete the reference to Donilon's presence at the meeting.

Smith also thanked Bin Bayyah for "his efforts to bring more understanding amongst humanity" during the meeting, the Bin Bayyah account said.

The White House did not respond to repeated requests for comments between June 14 and Tuesday.

Sheikh Abdullah Bin Bayyah posted this photo of his June 13 White House meeting.

Bin Bayyah lobbied the White House to "take urgent action" to help Syrian rebels. "We demand Washington take a greater role in [Syria]," Bin Bayyah told Al-Jazeera. President Obama later announced plans to arm Syrian rebels.

In granting Bin Bayyah a visa, White House officials ignored his radical statements as well as his close connection to Qaradawi. The IUMS's hostility toward Israel, and its support of terrorists, is well documented. Bin Bayyah falls comfortably in line with that view.

For example, in a 2011 statement on his Arabic-language website, he criticized the West for placing Palestinian terrorist groups such as Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad and others in the same category as al-Qaida:

"[P]lacing the Palestinian resistance, which defends internationally recognized rights, on an equal footing with intercontinental terrorist organizations (al-Qaida) is not based on any moral principle and would be detrimental to the cause of the fight against terrorism and mix the cards and raises questions to the world conscience and serves terrorists."

The IUMS welcomed Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh as a member in February 2012. The "Union will spare nothing in the service of the Palestinian people, praising the jihad of the Palestinian people with the leadership of the Hamas movement for resistance," Haniyeh's induction certificate said.

A 2004 fatwa, issued while Bin Bayyah was an IUMS board member, sanctioned "resistance," meaning attacks on American troops in Iraq as "a duty on every able Muslim in and outside Iraq."

Jamal Badawi, a longtime ISNA board member, also is listed as a member of the IUMS Board of Trustees. Badawi has repeatedly defended Palestinian terrorism including suicide bombings. His name appears on the first page of a 1992 telephone directory of Muslim Brotherhood members in the United States, and he is listed as a fundraiser in records from the 2008 Holy Land Foundation Hamas financing trial.

Badawi's radical views fit in well with the IUMS, which has issued numerous statements against peace with Israel, calling for the "liberation of Palestine" from Jewish control. Each statement has been unyielding in calling on Muslims to destroy Israel and in forbidding them from making peace with the Jewish state.

After a board of trustees meeting in December, the IUMS issued a communique calling on Hamas and Fatah to reconcile in the name of "the core Palestinian values (including the right of return and resistance until the liberation of Palestine and its capital Jerusalem) … Meanwhile, the union calls on the scholars of the nation to continue their religious role in enlightening the local and international public concerning the dangers that this Judaization policy in Jerusalem poses for the historic unity of the Palestinian territories which is religiously impermissible to give up one inch of it."

Sheikh Abdullah Bin Bayyah, circled in red, is shown at the International Union of Muslim Scholars (IUMS) board meeting in Doha, Qatar in December. The trustees issued a concluding statement at the meeting calling for Israel's destruction and the return of Palestinians exiled after the Israeli War of Independence in 1948. (Photo:IUMS)

A photo on the group's website shows Bin Bayyah was present at the meeting.

In 2009, it issued a fatwa forbidding any normalization of relations with Israel. It came on the 42nd anniversary of the Six-Day War, and Israel's capturing of the Temple Mount.

"All political, economic, and cultural dealings and all forms of normalization with the Zionist entity are considered to be a form of supporting and sustaining the occupier in its occupation of land and holy places," the fatwa said. "Moreover, such actions are considered a form of loyalty to the enemy, which is religiously prohibited; as Allah (Exalted and Glorified be He) says: 'And if any amongst you takes them as Awliya' (friends, protectors, helpers, etc.), then surely he is one of them.'(Al-Ma'idah 5: 51). In conclusion, we call on all Muslims, rulers and citizens, to undertake their role, and embark on rescuing Al-Aqsa Mosque and the Blessed Land and freeing them from the clutches of the Zionist occupation."

Just last month, an IUMS-affiliated Egyptian cleric blamed the United States and Israel for driving Egyptian opposition to the Muslim Brotherhood-dominated government. Khaled Kholif invoked the anti-Semitic forgery, The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, as evidence of his argument, the Global Muslim Brotherhood Daily Watch reported.

"America and Israel are pleased with [the Egyptian opposition] movements, which are led by the brainless," Kholif said during an appearance on Egypt's Al-Hafez television flagged by the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI). "They have said so in The Protocols. Let me tell you exactly what they said in The Protocols: 'We will strive to undermine security in the lands of the Gentiles, through reckless revolutions, led by the brainless.' It says so in The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, as translated by Khalifa Al-Tunisi.

"If you haven't read it," Kholif said of the Protocols, "you should."

Embraced by American Islamists

Bin Bayyah previously met with White House envoy Rashad Hussain when Bin Bayyah participated in a July 2012 Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) conference in his native Mauritania.

His website also indicates he spoke at the ADAMS Center, a large northern Virginia mosque, while he was in Washington June 12.

In addition to his role as IUMS vice president , Bin Bayyah also is a member of the similarly anti-Semitic Qaradawi-founded European Council for Fatwa and Research and the OIC's International Islamic Fiqh Academy, the latter of which issued a resolution in January 2003 sanctioning Palestinian suicide bombings.

Qaradawi and Bin Bayyah show a keen mutual admiration of each other in their writing. Bin Bayyah notably referred to Qaradawi as "a mountain upon whose peak there is light" and as "a great reformer" who "spreads knowledge and wisdom" in a 2008 article published by Boston cleric Suhaib Webb. Qaradawi returned the favor three days later: "The reality is that the more I have come closer to him and got to know him better, the more I have loved him…"

That article also was published on Webb's site.

And like Qaradawi, Bin Bayyah claims Palestinian violence is acceptable under international law. Islamic law's approval is a given.

"He who adheres to international covenants can resist. The Palestinians. There are international conventions and there are international resolutions which give them rights but do not provide them with the means to obtain these rights. It is their right to resist," Bin Bayyah said during a 2010 Al-Jazeera broadcast. "So, that which says resistance, says kinds of resistance, including the use of weapons. So, international conventions do not stray too far from the interests Islamic Sharia oversees."

Bin Bayyah endorsed a push by Muslim intellectuals to get the United Nations to criminalize blasphemy against the Muslim prophet Muhammad and Islam, saying that it causes violence.

"To people of reason and understanding: We ask everyone to ponder the ramifications of provoking the feelings of over one billion people by a small party of people who desires not to seek peace nor fraternity between members of humanity," Bin Bayyah wrote in a post last fall. "This poses a threat to world peace with no tangible benefit realized. Is it not necessary in today's world for the United Nations to issue a resolution criminalizing the impingement of religious symbols? We request all religious and political authorities, as well as people of reason to join us in putting a stop to this futility that benefit no one."

Considering that this information is readily available on the Internet, it would not have been too difficult for White House officials to uncover that both Bin Bayyah and the IUMS support Palestinian terrorism and Israel's destruction. The White House visit also raises questions relative to the degree the Obama administration is willing to go to court the Muslim Brotherhood both at home and abroad.
39  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: There is this too on: November 17, 2015, 04:31:41 AM


Should have  choked him the fcuk out and shipped him back to dar al islam
40  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Big Fatwa against ISIS on: November 17, 2015, 04:26:12 AM

Well, that explains why the vast majority of peaceful muslims rose up and crushed ISIS back in2014.
41  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Why Paris is doomed on: November 16, 2015, 05:33:21 PM

Let it burn.
42  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Donald Trump considers sending 10,000 troops and closing US mosques on: November 16, 2015, 04:10:40 PM

I like it!
43  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: No go zones on: November 16, 2015, 09:02:20 AM

The left loves to deny real problems while creating imaginary ones.

Thank you GM and Mark Steyn (famous people caught reading the forum):

But we’re supposed to believe they’re not real, because they don’t have big “KEEP OUT OR DIE, INFIDEL!” billboards denoting their perimeter, and they’re not labeled “Muslim No-Go Zone #23″ on the official maps of major European cities...

Yet.  They don't mark the perimeter because they are actively expanding it.
44  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Muslim security guard saved stadium from bomb on: November 16, 2015, 08:37:04 AM

Funny how he doesn't want to give out his name. I wonder why...
45  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Islam in Europe on: November 15, 2015, 05:33:02 PM
The majoriy of people in the world don't have the stomach to do what needs to be done, and since people are busy being politcally correct and behind the curve.... we'll suffer more of this, until they get with the program.

I'm cool with it. People get the world they deserve.

Obama gave a speech in Cairo and bowed to every world leader he could find. I was promised a new era of peace and prosperity!
46  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: November 15, 2015, 10:28:14 AM
That was the dem debate? I thought it was some sort of infomercial for Depends...
47  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: How do we control autonomous weapons? on: November 15, 2015, 10:20:11 AM
Ultimately, we won't.

How do you control Autonomous Weapons?
Posted: 13 Nov 2015 03:38 PM PST
How do you control an autonomous system?

This isn't an academic question.  Some organizations already employ truly autonomous systems and these systems are getting very good very quickly.
Since these systems are already in use, I think this question is about as important as it gets.

Unfortunately, these systems are so new, very few people are working on the answer to this question.  Worse, this question is devilishly hard to answer, because a truly autonomous system...

   will solve problems that only human beings can currently solve.

   will write its own "code" and build its own models for solving problems and making decisions.

   will continuously learn/change/improve its code and its models as it gains experience.

Here's my early thinking on this.

You can't control these systems using the methods we built for controlling the human built software and machines we already have.  If you attempt to control autonomous systems in the same way you control automation, you will fail (and fail badly).

A new method of command and control is needed.  Here are some ideas for how to pull this off:

   Human beings must be paired with these systems.  These people must act as coaches, trainers, teachers to these systems.  They must take responsibility for failures in their training.

   These systems must be continually certified for use in way (largely qualitative vs. quantitative) that are similar to how we certify human beings.  Put them through a series of real world exercises.  If they can handle them and explain why they made the decisions they made (optimally, using natural language), they are certified for use.   

   We need to develop and deploy something I'm calling BIG SIM.  This is a compliment to the BIG DATA that's used to bootstrap these systems to minimum capability.  BIG SIM provides a massive real world sandbox that will allow autonomous systems to undergo extensive training and testing to suss out problems.  BIG SIM can be completely virtual.  It can also be accomplished through decentralized real-world testing as we are seeing with Tesla's crowdsourced "autopilot" or via a corporate solution like Amazon's Mechanical Turk. 

John Robb

48  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Safe space on: November 15, 2015, 10:15:51 AM
49  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / We need an emergency airlift of these signs on: November 14, 2015, 06:43:19 PM

Oh, and COEXIST bumperstickers!
50  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Self Inflicted nightmare in Sweden on: November 14, 2015, 05:58:24 PM

Sweden's Self-Inflicted Nightmare


Sweden’s message to migrants in Europe is clear: Don’t come here. “Even we have our limits, and now they have been reached,” a defeated-sounding migration minister, Morgan Johansson, explained during a press conference on Nov. 5. “Those who come to our borders may be told that we cannot guarantee them housing.”

That message, nailed down this week when the government announced that Sweden was reintroducing border controls, was a sudden shift from an administration that had claimed there were “no limits” to the number of refugees it could accept. The reversal testifies not only to intensifying challenges Sweden faces abroad, but also to the dysfunctional nature of its immigration debate at home.

Sweden’s backtracking is part of a larger trend as Europe struggles to deal with the hundreds of thousands of Middle Eastern and African asylum seekers. States that together with Sweden had been advocating generosity and openness — like Austria and Germany — now too are tightening their policies and calling for Europe to reinforce its external borders. Their efforts have turned to repatriating those without legitimate claims to asylum as well as relocating part of their migrant populations to other, less inundated E.U. states like Poland, France or Denmark.

Making progress on either front promises to be a challenge. Indeed, responding to the Swedish government’s cries for neighboring states to take some of their refugees, the Danish migration minister, Inger Stojberg, said her country would not be coming to the rescue, and added: “Sweden has had an irresponsible refugee policy for years. They have put themselves in this situation.”

Sweden, a country of 9.6 million, lately has been absorbing 10,000 asylum seekers per week, and expects the total number coming into the country this year alone to reach 190,000 — a population greater than that of its fourth largest city. Since the intensification of the immigration crisis in September, municipalities have complained that they lack housing, teachers and classroom space, and doctors for the newcomers. The police have acknowledged that they’ve lost the ability to monitor the whereabouts of foreign nationals within the country. Migration agencies have signaled that they can no longer ensure that unaccompanied minors passing through their offices will be transferred into acceptable living conditions. And leaked emails have shown that government officials are panicking over how they will pay for associated costs.

Sweden, like Germany and Austria, overestimated its capacity. Casualties of this miscalculation will not only include its domestic welfare institutions, but also — tragically — its global humanitarianism. In an effort to pay for increased immigration, the government is now dipping into its foreign aid budget. Sweden consistently ranks as one of the most generous providers of foreign aid worldwide, supporting efforts to expand educational opportunities, provide access to water, and promote political and economic development in regions producing the bulk of asylum seekers in Europe. But 20 percent of this year’s foreign aid budget has been redirected to domestic migration agencies, and officials have suggested they will take even more out of next year’s budget. Reducing foreign aid in such substantial amounts promises to fuel the same instability and desperation that is causing the migrant crisis. Worse yet, by refocusing its humanitarian effort on individuals healthy enough and wealthy enough to take themselves to its shores, Sweden is shunning those abroad in greatest need.

The government’s slow response to all of this seems baffling. But the seeds of the current debacle were sown earlier, when immigration became an untouchable centerpiece of Sweden’s politics. For the past five years, the nationalist Sweden Democrats party has been the only force opposing the country’s refugee policies. Born in the late 1980s through the fusion of an anti-tax populist party and a neo-Nazi activist group, the Sweden Democrats have grown exponentially since entering Parliament in 2010. Their rise has nonetheless been condemned and hotly contested by a mainstream weary of seeing the country’s reputation for tolerance tarnished. Far from introducing new restrictions to immigration, the Sweden Democrats have caused the political establishment to entrench itself: Any move to restrict immigration is now seen as a concession to paranoid nativism.

Prime Minister Stefan Lofven has called the Sweden Democrats “neo-fascists,” and like all other mainstream party leaders — on the left as well as the right — he has refused to communicate with them. But on the heels of his administration’s about-face on its own immigration policy, his past attacks on the party seem awkward. When members of the Sweden Democrats began criticizing his policy months ago for its blindness to logistical and economic pitfalls, he dismissed them. The party also argued early on that money for humanitarian purposes would be more efficiently and equitably spent through foreign aid than immigration, and he disregarded their argument as a convenient excuse for a xenophobic agenda. He may have been right, but so were they.

And therein lies the problem. The real nightmare for Swedish politics is not that it now includes the kind of continental-style far-right party it once thought itself immune to. It is rather that mainstream forces have surrendered all critical perspectives on immigration to a party with which they can neither collaborate nor bear to see affirmed. Had a transparent and dynamic public discussion been taking place in Sweden during the past months — a discussion that acknowledged both the need for human solidarity and the limitations of the country’s infrastructure — a more sustainable immigration policy might have emerged. Instead, it seems ill-fated policies will not be altered until the country brings itself to the brink of collapse.

Benjamin R. Teitelbaum, who teaches Nordic Studies and International Affairs at the University of Colorado, Boulder, is the author of the forthcoming book “Lions of the North: Sounds of the New Nordic Radical Nationalism.”
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