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10851  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Sharia 101 on: November 04, 2010, 12:21:49 AM
It's not a law, it's an amendment to Oklahoma's constitution. Do you understand the difference? I think not.
10852  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Sharia 101 on: November 03, 2010, 11:40:06 PM

H.RES.372 -- Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that judicial determinations regarding the meaning of the Constitution of the United States should not be based on judgments, laws,... (Introduced in House - IH)

HRES 372 IH

110th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. RES. 372

Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that judicial determinations regarding the meaning of the Constitution of the United States should not be based on judgments, laws, or pronouncements of foreign institutions unless such foreign judgments, laws, or pronouncements inform an understanding of the original meaning of the Constitution of the United States.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

May 3, 2007

Mr. FEENEY (for himself, Mr. GOODLATTE, Mr. SESSIONS, Mr. JONES of North Carolina, Mr. HERGER, Mr. PENCE, Mr. KING of Iowa, Mr. DOOLITTLE, Mr. SAM JOHNSON of Texas, Mr. ISSA, Mr. FRANKS of Arizona, Mr. GARRETT of New Jersey, Ms. FOXX, Mrs. MYRICK, Mr. BISHOP of Utah, Mr. CONAWAY, Mr. PAUL, Mrs. MUSGRAVE, Ms. FALLIN, Mr. CAMPBELL of California, Mr. AKIN, Mr. GOHMERT, Mr. LAMBORN, Mr. MILLER of Florida, Mr. CHABOT, Mr. FORBES, Mr. CANNON, Mrs. BLACKBURN, Mrs. JO ANN DAVIS of Virginia, Mr. WESTMORELAND, Ms. GINNY BROWN-WAITE of Florida, Mr. SMITH of Texas, Mr. SENSENBRENNER, Mr. BOOZMAN, Mr. TERRY, Mr. WILSON of South Carolina, Mr. CANTOR, Mr. FORTUN.AE6O, Mr. MACK, Mr. BLUNT, Mr. SULLIVAN, Mr. GALLEGLY, Mr. GOODE, Mr. TIAHRT, Mr. PITTS, Mr. WELDON of Florida, Mr. CARTER, Mr. POE, and Mr. INGLIS of South Carolina) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

RESOLUTION

Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that judicial determinations regarding the meaning of the Constitution of the United States should not be based on judgments, laws, or pronouncements of foreign institutions unless such foreign judgments, laws, or pronouncements inform an understanding of the original meaning of the Constitution of the United States.

Whereas the Declaration of Independence announced that one of the chief causes of the American Revolution was that King George had `combined to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution and unacknowledged by our laws';

Whereas the Supreme Court has recently relied on the judgments, laws, or pronouncements of foreign institutions to support its interpretations of the laws of the United States, most recently in Lawrence v. Texas, 123 S.Ct. 2472, 2474 (2003);

Whereas the Supreme Court has stated previously in Printz v. United States, 521 U.S. 898, 921 n.11 (1997), that `We think such comparative analysis inappropriate to the task of interpreting a constitution . . .';

Whereas Americans' ability to live their lives within clear legal boundaries is the foundation of the rule of law, and essential to freedom;

Whereas it is the appropriate judicial role to faithfully interpret the expression of the popular will through the Constitution and laws enacted by duly elected representatives of the American people and our system of checks and balances;

Whereas Americans should not have to look for guidance on how to live their lives from the often contradictory decisions of any of hundreds of other foreign organizations; and

Whereas inappropriate judicial reliance on foreign judgments, laws, or pronouncments threatens the sovereignty of the United States, the separation of powers and the President's and the Senate's treaty-making authority: Now, therefore, be it

      Resolved, That it is the sense of the House of Representatives that judicial interpretations regarding the meaning of the Constitution of the United States should not be based in whole or in part on judgments, laws, or pronouncements of foreign institutions unless such foreign judgments, laws, or pronouncements inform an understanding of the original meaning of the Constitution of the United States.
10853  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Way Forward for the American Creed on: November 03, 2010, 11:20:57 PM
http://www.jerrypournelle.com/view/2010/Q4/view647.html#Wednesday

Wednesday,  November 3, 2010

Sixty Seats, nationwide.

The interesting lesson is that the "moderate" Republicans in California were repudiated. In Delaware and Nevada the country club party wing of the Republican party didn't support the conservative women, while the Democrats ran vicious personal attack campaigns. They came close in races that the Democrats considered vital. In California two liberal Republican women didn't stir up much enthusiasm, while the tea party movement was discouraged and even rejected. In Alaska it's still undecided, and won't be for a while: the Country Club Republican leadership didn't support the tea party candidate and allowed one of their ruling class to retain committee assignments. All told, it was an extraordinary election: sixty sets, and the key conservatives won in most cases; and there were informative lessons in the cases where they lost.

One lesson is that the country is appalled at what has happened in the past four years, but not ready to turn to the Republicans in a blind trust. Another is that the mechanics of party structure remain important.

Carly Fiorina ran as "a Republican willing to compromise".  She took conservative stands, but she didn't try to rally the conservatives and the tea party. California has a highly professional Democratic machine with a unionized ground game; the only way to defeat it is to turn out the Republican and Independent vote, and that didn't happen. There were local movements against Sanchez in Bob Dornan's old seat, but they weren't good enough. California is a special case, with a long established and well oiled political machine; it won't be turned around easily. The same is true of New York.

Obama is now calling for openness and compromise. We must find common ground. Hardly astonishing: now he is eager to sit down with both parties. A typical and predictable speech. He has learned nothing and forgotten nothing.

The question is, have the Republicans learned anything?

The election has given the Republic another chance, but only a chance. It's time to build on that. We can begin by thinking hard about what "building consensus" means. We know what it means to the President. We know where Carly Fiorina got by making her willingness to compromise a key part of her campaign. Does the Republican leadership?

====================

Republican tactics:

First, send an Obama-care repeal bill to the Senate. See if any Democrats will vote for it. If not, get them on record. If they will, then Obama must veto it; try to pass it over his veto. Get those who are defending it on record.

Second, refuse any appropriation for enforcing it. Append "provided that no revenues appropriated under this Act shall be used in any way for enforcement of the Health Care Act" to every appropriation for anything else; then just don't initiate or pass any appropriation for its enforcement. Again make the Democrats step up and defend their agenda.

The nation repudiated the Obama agenda last night. The Republicans need to make certain that the next election is also a referendum on that agenda.

The Tea Party needs to think hard about its candidates, understanding that every one of them is going to be subjected to vicious personal attacks designed to make them appear to be flakes or crooks or utter incompetents. The attacks will be unrelenting, and may not be based on anything factual. Candidates need to learn how to deal with la calumna as a campaign strategy. (See the Barber of Seville) and only choose candidates who can shrug that off and stay to message. That's not going to be easy.

The Tea Party can be proud. They hold the balance of power in the United States. It is no mean accomplishment.

And the Republican leadership needs to understand: the Tea Party played by the rules. They ran in primaries, and where they didn't win they still turned out to vote Republican. It is now the turn of the Country Club Republicans to learn how to play to win. The Tea Party holds the balance of power here -- and West Virginia shows there are alternatives to the Republican Party if the Country Club hasn't learned that. It's not an attractive alternative. It is better if the Republicans become a genuine center-right party.

All told it was a great night for the Republic. Not as great as I had hoped it would be, but it will have to do. It's a great start.

 
10854  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Sharia 101 on: November 03, 2010, 11:08:02 PM
STATE QUESTION NO. 755 LEGISLATIVE REFERENDUM NO. 355
This measure amends the State Constitution. It changes a section that deals with the courts of this state. It
would amend Article 7, Section 1. It makes courts rely on federal and state law when deciding cases. It
forbids courts from considering or using international law. It forbids courts from considering or using Sharia
Law.
International law is also known as the law of nations. It deals with the conduct of international organizations
and independent nations, such as countries, states and tribes. It deals with their relationship with each other.
It also deals with some of their relationships with persons.
The law of nations is formed by the general assent of civilized nations. Sources of international law also
include international agreements, as well as treaties.
Sharia Law is Islamic law. It is based on two principal sources, the Koran and the teaching of Mohammed.
SHALL THE PROPOSAL BE APPROVED? FOR THE PROPOSAL — YES
AGAINST THE PROPOSAL — NO

**Yeah, I think a state constitution can require that judges rely on federal and state law when deciding cases. You don't?**
10855  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Sharia 101 on: November 03, 2010, 10:54:16 PM
Wow. That's a very compelling legal argument you've put together.
10856  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Alert Radley Balko! on: November 03, 2010, 10:52:16 PM
http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/1231/p01s03-usgn.html

Meat Camp, N.C. - It is a disturbing scene that plays out all too often across the hog hollows of Appalachia. Authorities raid illicit meth labs set up in rickety trailers and mountain shacks: Using hoses, scrubs, and soap, they decontaminate children on the spot and throw away tainted blankets and teddy bears.
10857  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The War on Drugs on: November 03, 2010, 10:45:24 PM
The Libertarian answer to this?

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=709882n

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/11/national/11meth.html

ULSA, Okla., July 8 - The Laura Dester Shelter here is licensed for 38 children, but at times in the past months it has housed 90, forcing siblings to double up in cots. It is supposed to be a 24-hour stopping point between troubled homes and foster care, but with foster homes backed up, children are staying weeks and sometimes months, making it more orphanage than shelter, a cacophony of need.

Andrea Mohin/The New York Times

Pat Childres, a volunteer at the Laura Dester Shelter, cuddling two children who are awaiting placement in foster homes.

Children awaiting foster placement were fed lunch by Leslie Beyer, left, and Theresa Boyd at the Laura Dester Shelter in Tulsa, Okla.

In a rocking chair, a volunteer uses one arm to feed a 5-day-old boy taken from his mother at birth, the other to placate a toddler who is wandering from adult to adult begging, "Bottle?" A 3-year-old who arrived at dawn shrieks as salve is rubbed on her to kill the lice.

This is a problem methamphetamine has made, a scene increasingly familiar across the country as the number of foster children rises rapidly in states hit hard by the drug, the overwhelming number of them, officials say, taken from parents who were using or making methamphetamine.

Oklahoma last year became the first state to ban over-the-counter sales of cold medicines that contain the crucial ingredient needed to make methamphetamine. Even so, the number of foster children in the state is up 16 percent from a year ago. In Kentucky, the numbers are up 12 percent, or 753 children, with only seven new homes.

In Oregon, 5,515 children entered the system in 2004, up from 4,946 the year before, and officials there say the caseload would be half what it is now if the methamphetamine problem suddenly went away. In Tennessee, state officials recently began tracking the number of children brought in because of methamphetamine, and it rose to 700 in 2004 from 400 in 2003.

While foster populations in cities rose because of so-called crack babies in the 1990's, methamphetamine is mostly a rural phenomenon, and it has created virtual orphans in areas without social service networks to support them. in Muskogee, an hour's drive south of here, a group is raising money to convert an old church into a shelter because there are none.

Officials say methamphetamine's particularly potent and destructive nature and the way it is often made in the home conspire against child welfare unlike any other drug.

It has become harder to attract and keep foster parents because the children of methamphetamine arrive with so many behavioral problems; they may not get into their beds at night because they are so used to sleeping on the floor, and they may resist toilet training because they are used to wearing dirty diapers.

"We used to think, you give these kids a good home and lots of love and they'll be O.K.," said Esther Rider-Salem, the manager of Child Protective Services programs for the State of Oklahoma. "This goes above and beyond anything we've seen."

Although the methamphetamine problem has existed for years, state officials here and elsewhere say the number of foster children created by it has spiked in the last year or two as growing awareness of the drug problem has prompted more lab raids, and more citizens reporting suspected methamphetamine use.

Nationwide, the Drug Enforcement Administration says that over the last five years 15,000 children were found at laboratories where methamphetamine was made. But that number vastly understates the problem, federal officials say, because it does not include children whose parents use methamphetamine but do not make it and because it relies on state reporting, which can be spotty.

On July 5, the National Association of Counties reported that 40 percent of child welfare officials surveyed nationwide said that methamphetamine had caused a rise in the number of children removed from homes.

The percentage was far higher on the West Coast and in rural areas, where the drug has hit the hardest. Seventy-one percent of counties in California, 70 percent in Colorado and 69 percent in Minnesota reported an increase in the number of children removed from homes because of methamphetamine.
10858  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Banned in OK on: November 03, 2010, 10:14:37 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8057179.stm

The dusty streets of Kismayo in Somalia echoed to the sound of a vehicle with loudspeakers summoning residents to a new form of public "entertainment" earlier this month.

People were being invited to see a man have his hand chopped off in a public park in the city.

The young man, Mohamed Omar Ismail, had been found guilty of stealing goods from another man's house.

That afternoon, hundreds of local people flocked to Freedom Park in order to see the amputation.

After a long wait, Mr Ismail was brought out in front of the people and an official started to read out the court decision from a piece of paper.

Clothes theft

"The Islamic Sharia court of Kismayo district confirms that Mohamed Omar Ismail has been found guilty of stealing," the official announced.

"Mr Ismail stole 10 pairs of trousers, 10 shirts, eight other items and a bag. The value of all the items is estimated to be $90."

map

The official quoted a chapter from the Koran known as Surah Maida, verse 38, which is about stealing and relevant punishment.

He said that the verse decreed that punishment for stealing was that the right hand of the thief should be cut off.

A local journalist who witnessed the events unfold saw a shocked-looking Mr Ismail brought into the park.

His right hand was held up to the crowds.

It was then laid on a table and severed immediately and without ceremony at the wrist.

Bloody hand dangled

The eyewitness told of his horror as the bloody body part was dangled by its index finger in front of the crowd to prove that punishment had been meted out.

Mr Ismail is now recovering from his injury in Kismayo General Hospital, where he is being guarded by the Islamist militia who punished him.

Mohamed Omar Ismail
Mohamed Omar Ismail reportedly insists he did not commit the burglary

They do not allow him to talk to the media.

But according to an independent source, Mr Ismail insists he did not commit the burglary for which he lost his hand.

He said he was still appalled at what had happened to him and the terrible pain he had suffered.
10859  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The War on Drugs on: November 03, 2010, 09:51:00 PM


OTOH, (I've posted this before but) whenever the Court determined that growing one pot plant on your own property for your own consumption is a form of interstate commerce started a constitutional problem much larger than drug use.


Very good point. It's one thing for a state to pass a law or not, another when there is no evidence of an intent to cross state lines or national borders.
10860  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Sharia 101 on: November 03, 2010, 09:33:03 PM
**Isn't it tragic that there is no possibility of a judge being able to have a rape victim stoned to death in Oklahoma now, JDN? Those unsophisticated rubes probably wouldn't want to share a stage with Cat "Death to Salman Rushdie" Stevens either.Oh well, not everyone can be as sophisticated and tolerant as you are.**


When a young, illiterate housewife named Zafran Bibi went to the police last year, pregnant and claiming a fellow villager had raped her while she was cutting grass, she didn't expect that she'd be the one to get punished. But last month, a judge in Pakistan's ultra-conservative Northwest Frontier province convicted her of adultery. "I hereby convict and sentence the accused Zafran Bibi to stoning to death," wrote Judge Anwar Ali Khan, "and that she be stoned to death at a public place."

If Pakistan is sometimes a bizarre blend of the modern and the archaic, nowhere is the archaic more powerful than in the way the country's legal system treats women who accuse men of rape. The problem lies in the so-called Hudood ordinances, a series of Islamic decrees that are enforced in tandem with the country's secular legal system. Human rights activists say these laws blatantly discriminate against women. For a rapist to be convicted, for example, his crime has to be confirmed by four adult male Muslim eyewitnesses, or the rapist must confess. If the court rules that there was consent, the woman can be convicted of adultery. Sentences under the Hudood ordinances include amputation for theft, flogging for drinking alcohol and stoning for adultery.


Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,238673,00.html#ixzz14HCfLI5L
10861  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Fed, Monetary Policy, & the US Dollar on: November 03, 2010, 07:29:18 PM
As much as I'm not a fan of Loon Paul, I actually am happy to hear this.
10862  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Sharia 101 on: November 03, 2010, 03:11:47 PM
Gee, all these leftists suddenly can't find a dividing line between islamic theology and sharia law?

"I would like to see Oklahoma politicians explain if this means that the courts can no longer consider the Ten Commandments."

Oh really? What case or cases have cited the 10 commandments? The very same leftists would scream were the 10 commandment cited in a court case.
10863  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Promote a soldier in 2012! on: November 03, 2010, 02:56:25 PM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsOmFIX-PG0&feature=player_embedded


Someone really ready to lead on day one.
10864  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Way Forward for the American Creed on: November 03, 2010, 02:28:10 PM
Two Reagan-esque figures both come from Florida. Marco and West. Marco needs more seasoning, but has awesome potential, West is ready for 2012.
10865  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2010 Elections; 2012 Presidential on: November 03, 2010, 12:26:36 PM
Crafty:

He sure did!
10866  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Looks like Pence will be running for Prez 2012 on: November 03, 2010, 11:53:48 AM
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/breaking-pence-wont-seek-another-term-house-leadership_514643.html?nopager=1

THE WEEKLY STANDARD has obtained a letter from Mike Pence, who is believed to be considering a presidential or gubernatorial run, informing his colleagues that he will not seek another term as chairman of the House Republican conference. "Now that we have restored a Republican majority to the House of Representatives and I have fulfilled my commitment to the Republican Conference, my family and I have begun to look to the future," Pence writes. Full letter here:
10867  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iran on: November 03, 2010, 11:46:48 AM
If Obama has a second term, Israel will be designated a terrorist state as an outreach to Iran.
10868  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / West-Bolton-2012! on: November 03, 2010, 11:37:13 AM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP2p91dvm6M&feature=player_embedded
10869  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: california on: November 03, 2010, 11:20:38 AM
NOT ONE PENNY of federal money to bail out California. They made their fiscal bed, they need to lie in it.
10870  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Privacy on: November 03, 2010, 10:50:59 AM
"sneak a peek" ?
10871  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Privacy on: November 03, 2010, 10:02:08 AM
It all depends on the "reasonable expectation of privacy". If something is encrypted and does not involve the transmission of the protected data to a second party, then a warrant would most likely be required to seize it as evidence. Even then, things like banking records are most likely going to require a search warrant.
10872  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / I'm sure Holder will get right on it..... on: November 03, 2010, 02:15:16 AM
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/breaking-video-soon-new-black-panthers-commit-outrageous-violations-of-texas-voting-law/

BREAKING VIDEO: New Black Panthers Commit Outrageous Violations of Texas Voting Law
They spoke with election officials inside polling places. After these discussions, white poll watchers were either denied admittance or ejected. White election judges were also removed, under threat of calling the police for trumped-up complaints.
10873  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2010 Elections; 2012 Presidential on: November 02, 2010, 07:53:19 PM
Very nice to see Grayson handed a well deserved loss.
10874  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2010 Elections; 2012 Presidential on: November 02, 2010, 07:06:20 PM
Marco Rubio wins and Charlie Crist loses. It's like a double win!
10875  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2010 Elections; 2012 Presidential on: November 02, 2010, 06:33:59 PM
Glad to see that. I'm waiting to see how Florida goes. Fingers crossed!
10876  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Privacy on: November 02, 2010, 05:28:08 PM
Okay.
10877  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / What you won't see on the MSM on: November 02, 2010, 05:22:24 PM


Remember, the tea party is violent and dangerous while dems are smart and peaceful and tolerant.
10878  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Privacy on: November 02, 2010, 05:07:41 PM
My posts clearly define the legal restrictions involved in various forms of investigation as a counterpoint to the often hysterical sloganeering on the topic.
10879  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2010 Elections; 2012 Presidential on: November 02, 2010, 05:00:03 PM
If that's true, then there will be a surge in heterosexual porn and a serious drop in homosexual site visits in the next few days.
10880  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Housing/Mortgage/Real Estate on: November 02, 2010, 04:56:30 PM
"Let it correct" does sound better.

America has developed a serious debt addiction and needs to hit bottom and sober up. The longer we delay the day of reckoning, the worse it will be.
10881  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / New Obama slogan! on: November 02, 2010, 04:02:36 PM
Well, we tried.....*shrug*
10882  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Privacy on: November 02, 2010, 03:42:52 PM
How is the US gov't pushing for total surveillance? Please cite your source.
10883  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The War on Drugs on: November 02, 2010, 03:37:17 PM
After their bogus Iraq study, I trust nothing from the Lancet.
10884  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Housing/Mortgage/Real Estate on: November 02, 2010, 03:30:58 PM
We need to let it crash. Only then can we have real pricing.
10885  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Fed Easing May Mean 20% Dollar Drop: Bill Gross on: November 02, 2010, 08:16:37 AM
http://www.cnbc.com/id/39957072

The dollar is in danger of losing 20 percent of its value over the next few years if the Federal Reserve continues unconventional monetary easing, Bill Gross, the manager of the world's largest mutual fund, said on Monday.

"Other countries and citizens are willing to work for less and willing to work harder—and we forgot the magic formula somewhere along the way," Gross said.

"I think a 20 percent decline in the dollar is possible," Gross said, adding the pace of the currency's decline was also an important consideration for investors.

"When a central bank prints trillions of dollars of checks, which is not necessarily what (a second round of quantitative easing) will do in terms of the amount, but if it gets into that territory—that is a debasement of the dollar in terms of the supply of dollars on a global basis," Gross told Reuters in an interview at his PIMCO headquarters.
10886  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Rogue on: November 01, 2010, 09:47:26 PM
One of the reasons I like Israel. The willingness to do what must be done.
10887  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / The left, smarter and better informed on: November 01, 2010, 09:20:52 PM
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/11/01/question-for-stewart-ralliers-is-obama-a-keynesian-or-was-he-born-in-america/

Just ask them.
10888  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, corruption etc. on: November 01, 2010, 06:16:45 PM
But think of the time and energy the dems could save by letting China and Iran hack the vote. No more need for the unions and Acorn.
10889  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Say hello to Bayh! on: November 01, 2010, 03:51:46 PM


Let's see if he starts raising his visibility and honing his creds as the "true centrist dem".
10890  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / U.S. home prices expected to slide another 8% on: November 01, 2010, 02:18:25 PM
U.S. home prices expected to slide another 8%

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/US-home-prices-expected-to-cnnm-28872967.html?x=0

10891  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Know what California needs? More debt on: November 01, 2010, 02:10:01 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/calstrs-pension-vote-2010-11

Bombshell Pension Vote Is About To Sink California Hundreds Of Millions Deeper Into The Red

10892  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Enemies on: November 01, 2010, 01:14:46 PM
In remarks prepared for delivery to a rally in Cincinnati with Rob Portman, the GOP nominee for Senate in Ohio, and John Kasich, the GOP nominee for Ohio governor, Boehner says:

“Ladies and gentlemen, we have a president in the White House who referred to Americans who disagree with him as ‘our enemies.’ Think about that. He actually used that word. When Ronald Reagan, George Bush, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush used the word ‘enemy,’ they reserved it for global terrorists and foreign dictators — enemies of the United States. Enemies of freedom. Enemies of our country.

“Today, sadly, we have president who uses the word ‘enemy’ for fellow Americans — fellow citizens. He uses it for people who disagree with his agenda of bigger government — people speaking out for a smaller, more accountable government that respects freedom and allows small businesses to create jobs. Mr. President, there's a word for people who have the audacity to speak up in defense of freedom, the Constitution, and the values of limited government that made our country great. We don't call them ‘enemies.’ We call them ‘patriots.’”


Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/44476.html#ixzz143WMjPzO
10893  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Tea Party, Glen Beck and related matters on: November 01, 2010, 01:10:30 PM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlMq1R-64Qc&feature=player_embedded
10894  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Homeland Security and American Freedom on: November 01, 2010, 01:03:00 PM
Ever since OBL and the house of Saud had their falling out over Gulf War I, the Saudis have been tracking AQ quite closely.
10895  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Homeland Security and American Freedom on: November 01, 2010, 12:26:16 PM
http://www.britainnews.net/story/700929

The suspect packages originated in Dubai prompting UPS and FedEx, the other cargo carrier involved, to suspend shipments from Yemen.

U.S. aviation authorities together with Dubai officials are already investigating the crash of a UPS Flight 6 from Dubai to Cologne in Germany which caught fire shortly after taking off from Dubai International Airport on September 3. The plane crashed soon after on Emirates Road, a major Dubai highway, killing the cargo plane's two crew members.

The Federal Aviation Administration says the crash is still under investigation and the cause has not been determined.

The authority did say however lithium batteries may have played a role in the crash.
10896  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Bombs in AQ plot designed to go off mid-air on: November 01, 2010, 12:20:42 PM
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/11/01/bombs-in-aq-plot-designed-to-go-off-mid-air/

Bombs in AQ plot designed to go off mid-air

posted at 12:15 pm on November 1, 2010 by Ed Morrissey


Last Friday and Saturday, the Obama administration assured Americans that they had enough advance knowledge of the latest al-Qaeda-attempted terrorist attack to stop it in its tracks.  Today, the Associated Press reports that their initial assessment of the targets was probably incorrect and that AQ actually intended to blow planes up mid-air.  What’s more, they came close to succeeding, because two of the packages flew on passenger jets before being discovered:

    The mail bomb plot stretching from Yemen to Chicago may have been aimed at blowing up planes in flight and was only narrowly averted, officials said Sunday, acknowledging that one device almost slipped through Britain and another seized in Dubai was unwittingly flown on two passenger jets.

    Senior U.S. officials met to develop a response to the Al-Qaida faction linked to the powerful explosives addressed to synagogues in Chicago.

    Investigators were still piecing together the potency and construction of two bombs they believe were designed by the top explosives expert working for Al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula, the Yemen-based militant faction thought to be behind the plot. Yemeni authorities hunted suspects linked to the group, but released a female computer engineering student arrested Saturday, saying someone else had posed as her in signing the shipping documents.

    But authorities admitted how close the terrorists came to getting their bombs through, and a senior U.S. official said investigators are still trying to figure out if other devices remain at large.

The initial claim from the intel community was that they were aware of the threat for several days and timed their intervention to grab the packages before they could make it to the synagogues in Chicago.  However, on Saturday NBC reported that more than two dozen potentially dangerous packages had yet to be found, and that the President had only been informed of the plot on Thursday night, hours before launching a global effort to find the packages.  Had that effort actually begun several days before, as I remarked on Saturday, they should have stopped the packages from getting onto planes at all, let alone passenger planes bound for place like London, Paris, and Cologne.

Furthermore, the two bombs discovered made it unlikely that the targets were a delivery destination.  One had a timer, the other a mobile phone for detonation systems.  Given the inability to pinpoint a specific delivery time, both detonators make no sense for targeting a synagogue, where other types of letter-bomb detonation systems would work more reliably.  The addresses were probably meant to send a message after the planes exploded in mid-flight, once the shippers had time to discover the paperwork for those packages.

And as the AP also reports, the failure to spot the bombs and suspicious packages beforehand also indicates a lack of prior knowledge of the plot.

Counterterrorism is a tough business, to be sure, and sometimes people can’t see vulnerabilities until terrorists exploit them.  It is mainly a reactive effort in that sense, although one might think that securing the cargo industry would have taken a higher priority.  The bigger question here isn’t how we missed the plot, but whether the administration gave us the straight truth in the aftermath.
10897  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Homeland Security and American Freedom on: November 01, 2010, 12:00:21 PM
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LDE6A00J0.htm

Shin Bet director Yuval Diskin, in a rare public address, identified cyber technologies as an ascendant international security threat.

"Intelligence once enjoyed only by countries and world powers can now be obtained through Internet systems like Google Earth, Internet cameras that are deployed all over the world and linked to the Web, or applications for IPhone devices that allow for quality intelligence to be received in real-time," he told a homeland security conference in Tel Aviv.

In what appeared to be an allusion to two parcel bombs found on U.S.-bound planes on Friday, he said such a tactic had featured in "mounting debates" among Islamist militant groups over the Internet on how to exploit international aviation. (Writing by Dan Williams, Editing by Matthew Jones)
10898  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Tea Party, Glen Beck and related matters on: November 01, 2010, 10:26:30 AM
http://standpointmag.co.uk/node/3551

Jon Stewart's Rally for Sanity yesterday featured Yusuf Islam aka Cat Stevens singing "Peace Train". Islam/Stevens previously showed his commitment to peace and sanity by saying that death was the appropriate punishment for Salman Rushdie's "blasphemy".

He has tried to wiggle out of it and issued all kinds of denials.

But here is what he said to Geoffrey Robertson QC in 1989. (Video here.)

    Robertson: You don't think that this man deserves to die?
    Y. Islam: Who, Salman Rushdie?
    Robertson: Yes.
    Y. Islam: Yes, yes.
    Robertson: And do you have a duty to be his executioner?
    Y. Islam: Uh, no, not necessarily, unless we were in an Islamic state and I was ordered by a judge or by the authority to carry out such an act - perhaps, yes.
    [Some minutes later, Robertson on the subject of a protest where an effigy of the author is to be burned]
    Robertson: Would you be part of that protest, Yusuf Islam, would you go to a demonstration where you knew that an effigy was going to be burned?
    Y. Islam: I would have hoped that it'd be the real thing.

And here is what Rushdie said about him

    However much Cat Stevens/Yusuf Islam may wish to rewrite his past, he was neither misunderstood nor misquoted over his views on the Khomeini fatwa against The Satanic Verses (Seven, April 29). In an article in The New York Times on May 22, 1989, Craig R Whitney reported Stevens/Islam saying on a British television programme "that rather than go to a demonstration to burn an effigy of the author Salman Rushdie, 'I would have hoped that it'd be the real thing'.''

    He added that "if Mr Rushdie turned up at his doorstep looking for help, 'I might ring somebody who might do more damage to him than he would like. I'd try to phone the Ayatollah Khomeini and tell him exactly where this man is'.''

    In a subsequent interview with The New York Times, Mr Whitney added, Stevens/Islam, who had seen a preview of the programme, said that he "stood by his comments".

    Let's have no more rubbish about how "green" and innocent this man was.
    Salman Rushdie, New York
10899  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Smugstock on: November 01, 2010, 10:22:03 AM

The perfect snapshot of the Rally for People Who Are Smarter Than You So Shut Up

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/10/31/the-perfect-snapshot-of-the-rally-for-people-who-are-smarter-than-you-so-shut-up/
10900  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Way Forward for the American Creed on: October 31, 2010, 11:12:16 PM
It's no shock to find that young people indoctrinated by leftists in academia cling to leftist beliefs. When they hit the real world, they are in for a harsh lesson. Good luck with all those crushing student debts and no jobs after graduation.
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