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51  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: September 15, 2016, 01:02:17 PM
"Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past."-Orwell


http://www.forbes.com/sites/jerrybowyer/2012/11/21/how-a-failed-commune-gave-us-what-is-now-thanksgiving/

How A Failed Commune Gave Us What Is Now Thanksgiving

Jerry Bowyer , 

Contributor

Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own.
English: "The First Thanksgiving at Plymo...

 "The First Thanksgiving at Plymouth" (1914) By Jennie A. Brownscombe (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

It’s wrong to say that American was founded by capitalists. In fact, America was founded by socialists who had the humility to learn from their initial mistakes and embrace freedom. One of the earliest and arguably most historically significant North American colonies was Plymouth Colony, founded in 1620 in what is now known as Plymouth, Massachusetts. As I’ve outlined in greater detail here before (Lessons From a Capitalist Thanksgiving), the original colony had written into its charter a system of communal property and labor. As William Bradford recorded in his Of Plymouth Plantation, a people who had formerly been known for their virtue and hard work became lazy and unproductive. Resources were squandered, vegetables were allowed to rot on the ground and mass starvation was the result. And where there is starvation, there is plague. After 2 1/2 years, the leaders of the colony decided to abandon their socialist mandate and create a system which honored private property. The colony survived and thrived and the abundance which resulted was what was celebrated at that iconic Thanksgiving feast.

As my friend Reuven Brenner has taught me, history is a series of experiments: The Human Gamble. Some gambles work and are adopted by history and some do not and should be abandoned by it. The problem is that the human gamble only works if there is a record of experimental outcomes and if decision makers consult that record. For many years, the story of the first failed commune of Plymouth Bay was part of the collective memory of American students. But Progressive Education found that story unhelpful and it has fallen into obscurity, which explains why (as I alluded to before) a well-educated establishment figure like Jared Bernstein would be unaware of it.

I’m often asked why our current leadership class forgets the lessons of the past so often. They are, after all, very smart men and women. Don’t they know that collectivism will fail?

No, they don’t. Not anymore. For much of our history, our leaders were educated in the principles which were to help them avoid errors once they have joined the ruling class. They studied to learn how to not misuse power. Now our leaders learn nothing of the dangers of abusing power: their education is entirely geared to its acquisition.  All of their neurons are trained on that one objective – to get to the top. What they do when they get there is a matter for later. And what happens to the country when they’re done with their experiments is beside the point: after all, their experiments will not really affect them personally. History is the story of the limitations of human power. But the limits of power is a topic for people who doubt themselves and their right to rule, not the self-anointed.

That’s how it is now, and that’s how it was in 1620. The charter of the Plymouth Colony reflected the most up-to-date economic, philosophical and religious thinking of the early 17th century. Plato was in vogue then, and Plato believed in central planning by intellectuals in the context of communal property, centralized state education, state centralized cultural offerings and communal family structure. For Plato, it literally did take a village to raise a child. This collectivist impulse reflected itself in various heretical offshoots of Protestant Christianity with names like The True Levelers, and the Diggers, mass movements of people who believed that property and income distinctions should be eliminated, that the wealthy should have their property expropriated and given to what we now call the 99%. This kind of thinking was rife in the 1600s and is perhaps why the Pilgrim settlers settled for a charter which did not create a private property system.

But the Pilgrims learned and prospered. And what they learned, we have forgotten and we fade.  Now, new waves of ignorant masses flood into parks and public squares. New Platonists demand control of other people’s property. New True Levelers legally occupy the prestige pulpits of our nation, secular and sacred. And now, as then, the productive class of our now gigantic, colony-turned-superpower, learn and teach again, the painful lessons of history. Collectivism violates the iron laws of human nature. It has always failed. It is always failing, and it will always fail. I thank God that it is failing now. Providence is teaching us once again.

When I was a boy, after my mother divorced, she got welfare. I also remember her carrying rocks working on a construction crew. Growing up on a farm, none of us were strangers to hard, manual labor. I'm not against welfare. I'm against people not having to do anything for it, especially manual labor, a hand up.

I don't think we should have socialist "collectives," but there's nothing wrong with people getting welfare being forced to work on farms that grow food in exchange for it, until they find something better and can get off of it.

Interesting point about the pilgrims attempting socialism. I learn something new everyday. It is funny though... to see how many centuries people have attempted socialism, having it fail, and trying it again, expecting different results.

Talk to many democrats? They think we aren't spending enough money. We need MOAR government!

The vote for the liberal elite in exchange for continuing the programs explains how we got stuck in this cycle.  Someone (Trump) pointing out that they're getting the shaft is the start of how we break out of it.

Malcolm X was in a better position to say it than me (race thread?), "Chumps".  "They are taking you for chumps."

This isn't a better life and we're killing off the golden goose that got you the Obamaphones.
52  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Mexico wants a wall! on: September 15, 2016, 12:57:12 PM
Yes, it's called fcuking over your neighbor. Imagine if we had a national policy of pushing Detroit's underclass into Ontario. Think the Canadians might be a bit pissed? We could then just accuse them of racism.


Make Guatemala pay for it.

"an estimated 2.5 million Nicaraguans out of 5.5 million live in extreme poverty."
https://www.reference.com/geography/countries-poorest-central-america-44c0a1915ab30ff2#

They're coming to Mexico for those Ford manufacturing jobs...

Mexico faces the same problems we do.
53  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: September 15, 2016, 12:48:56 PM
Talk to many democrats? They think we aren't spending enough money. We need MOAR government!

The vote for the liberal elite in exchange for continuing the programs explains how we got stuck in this cycle.  Someone (Trump) pointing out that they're getting the shaft is the start of how we break out of it.

Malcolm X was in a better position to say it than me (race thread?), "Chumps".  "They are taking you for chumps."

This isn't a better life and we're killing off the golden goose that got you the Obamaphones.
54  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Mexico wants a wall! on: September 15, 2016, 12:40:14 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3790116/Mexico-wants-build-border-wall-Central-America-illegal-immigrants.html

Ironic.
55  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: September 15, 2016, 12:35:36 PM
Quid pro quo? The underclass gets the bread and circuses which they trade for votes for the political elites. Some people work for a living, others vote for a living.


I wonder what (if any) welfare programs were available in 1774?

Immigrants came here and only got private charity, if anything.



Private charity, yes, but mostly family.  If you reached adulthood without being able to make it on your own, you turned to family for shelter and meals and they expected something in return for it like all day, everyday labor!  Where is the quid pro quo in welfare?
56  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: September 15, 2016, 12:25:22 PM
Blacks and Hispanics and blue collar whites are the people hurt most by illegal aliens.
57  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Islam - Education, Rebuttals and Counter-Terror on: September 15, 2016, 12:22:39 PM
The West's leaders, especially our traitorous president don't much care for the nations they are responsible for leading.

Western Europe is too far gone. Western civilization isn't looking too healthy either.


Hi GM

They only succeed because we let them. They couldn't get far if we opposed them, however our leadership is confused, weak, agenda-driven, traitorous or all of the above. They are using subversive means since direct confrontation would be a losing strategy and always has been. However, they have mastered Boyd's concepts of 4th Generation Warfare (low intensity guerrilla warfare) and use them to good effect.

I do think in many places we are beyond dialogue and there will be conflict, which is unfortunate but likely unavoidable to reassert Western values. I believe there is reason to be optimistic, and that we should engage in an effort to educate ourselves and others. Ignorance and complacency led us here, knowledge and action will see us through.
58  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / A big piece falls into place for China's Pacific Imperium on: September 15, 2016, 12:16:44 PM
http://www.stripes.com/news/philippines-reversal-on-troops-patrols-could-upend-us-china-strategy-1.429070

Another big win for Team Smart power!

Fundamentally changed.
59  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Islam - Education, Rebuttals and Counter-Terror on: September 15, 2016, 12:11:28 PM
Western Europe is too far gone. Western civilization isn't looking too healthy either.

I am enjoying and appreciating Martel's posts.  Welcome!

I love the detail and the supporting research.  I wonder what the over-riding theme could bne boiled down to in a thesis point or two or three.  What is it that people, voters and policy makers need to know?

We all have our own discussions with liberals we know or people we disagree with.  (The Libertarian candidate is also for open borders and soft on terrorism.)  What I have heard back when I talk of the threat of Islamic terrorism is something like, 'I choose not to live in fear'.  The Obama administration has mostly embodied that, don't name the threat, don't acknowledge it.  Many believe that if peaceful, loving people talk more about peace and love it will come true. 

Meanwhile, al Qaida, ISIS, the caliphate, Jihad, torture, terror, bombings and beheadings and the Islamic immigration invasion are all real, true and coming our way.

The violence in Islam is a feature, not a bug.  Peaceful Muslims are not able to point to real meanings in text and convince the Jihadists they have it all wrong. 

I don't live in a specific fear that I will be blown up or beheaded.  The numbers of killings, even counting 9/11/01, are relatively small.  Rather, I live in a policy vacuum where we aren't doing the right things to protect our country.

The invasion of Europe, the no-go zones and the civil wars there are real.  We have the same going on here to a smaller degree in an earlier phase.

There is only one lesson the US could take out of WWII if we had the full benefits of clairvoyance and hindsight.  Intervene sooner.  This threat is different from Hitlerism for sure but the idea that we are way over here so it doesn't affect us is wrong and dangerous.

We need deep, strategic thinking and long term consistent actions.  It starts with a clear understanding of the threat.
60  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: September 15, 2016, 12:08:18 PM
The Pilgrims tried socialism when they first got here. Funny enough, it collapsed and they almost starved to death (Hola Venezuela!). Immigrants came here and only got private charity, if anything. America represented opportunity, not a promise of three hots and a cot.

That tends to happen when Obamaphones and mealtickets are only a few forms away.

I wonder what (if any) welfare programs were available in 1774? It's a valid question. You take away someone's security, their cushoned existence, and watch them start caring. At that point, revolutionary violence wouldn't even be necessary. people would start to care.

We all know where welfare and votes purchased from it leads. How to end it (or at a minimum curtail it to a point where it doesn't become a way of life), in the interest of everyone's well-being.

This is the problem, that "government of the people, by the people, for the people" has perished. Killed by public ignorance and apathy and the deep state.

"This goes so much deeper than meets the eye. There is a reason she is being protected. She would take so many others with her including Obama."

THIS.

Guru Crafty, tail wags, but that wasn't mine. I stole it from the comments section because it seemed exactly so.

What difference at this point does it make??

 In the recluse of the White House we would not even know when she is no longer able to serve.

 We still don't know if she was sober, awake or conscious during the Benghazi crisis.

 She disappears 15 days at a time and goes 300 days without a press conference.

 It would take a court order and a constitutional crisis to even go in and find out if she was still president.

You're right of course. I know what my answer is, but the founding fathers are viewed as terrorists by the federal government.

I have to add, I think Hillary should have chosen Michael J. Fox for her campaign manager. Snarky I know, but imagine the public buy in that would have generated.
61  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: You might be a deplorable if: on: September 15, 2016, 12:03:20 PM
If you think male and female are actual biologically based concepts.

If you think some cultures are better than others.

Didn’t Barack Obama say a few months back that a candidate couldn’t insult his way to the presidency?

You may be a deplorable if you stand for the National Anthem.

Or if you know all the words to the Pledge of Allegiance, especially, “under God” (and liberty before justice).

Or if you [buy groceries] with your own money.

If you’re deployable, you’re definitely deplorable.

If you don’t have an Obamaphone and you don’t believe that global warming is “settled science” — can you say deplorable?

Saying Merry Christmas — Deplorable with a capital D!

You may be a deplorable if you wouldn’t mind showing some ID at the local precinct before you vote.

You may be a deplorable if all of your children have the same last name — and it’s your last name.

Nothing says deplorable like the National Rifle Association.

If you liked your doctor and wanted to keep your doctor — you know what you are.

You may be a deplorable if you don’t think you should have to press one for English.

You may be a deplorable if you identify as a member of the gender in which you were born.

You are a deplorable if you believe All Lives Matter.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/howie_carr/2016/09/carr_some_quick_easy_steps_to_tell_if_you_re_a_deplorable
62  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: US Economics, the stock market , and other investment/savings strategies on: September 15, 2016, 10:41:23 AM
Very high risk speculative stock to buy if you think Trump could win:

https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=AIR.NZ

Hollywood to Wellington flights will be triple booked.    smiley

Good luck, as Wellington will be either directly or indirectly ruled by Beijing before long.
63  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: September 15, 2016, 10:38:17 AM
This is the problem, that "government of the people, by the people, for the people" has perished. Killed by public ignorance and apathy and the deep state.

"This goes so much deeper than meets the eye. There is a reason she is being protected. She would take so many others with her including Obama."

THIS.

Guru Crafty, tail wags, but that wasn't mine. I stole it from the comments section because it seemed exactly so.

What difference at this point does it make??

 In the recluse of the White House we would not even know when she is no longer able to serve.

 We still don't know if she was sober, awake or conscious during the Benghazi crisis.

 She disappears 15 days at a time and goes 300 days without a press conference.

 It would take a court order and a constitutional crisis to even go in and find out if she was still president.

You're right of course. I know what my answer is, but the founding fathers are viewed as terrorists by the federal government.

I have to add, I think Hillary should have chosen Michael J. Fox for her campaign manager. Snarky I know, but imagine the public buy in that would have generated.
64  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Clinton Email Server on: September 13, 2016, 05:32:46 PM
What's 30,000 deleted emails, when you gave someone access to every single email you ever sent, who had no security clearance?

"Justin Cooper, who helped set up Hillary Clinton’s private home email system, testified Tuesday before the House Oversight Committee and admitted that he had no national security clearance during the time he had access to all of Hillary Clinton’s emails while she was Secretary of State."

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/09/13/hillary-clinton-aid-set-private-email-server-no-security-clearance/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social

This goes so much deeper than meets the eye. There is a reason she is being protected. She would take so many others with her including Obama.

Yes. He had to know. Think anything he emailed to her got bleachbitted?
65  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Hillary Out to Dinner_ on: September 13, 2016, 01:28:49 AM

A picture from the fundraiser. Happy now?



After Hillary had her health issue rear it's ugly head Saturday morning, some liberal news agencies (albiet not large ones), are reporting that she felt good enough to attend a fundraising dinner at the home of Marie McInnis Boies and David Boies, two attorneys in Armonk, New York (a 43 minute jaunt, one way).


"Despite the pneumonia diagnosis, Clinton attended a $100,000-per-ticket fundraiser at the home of prominent attorneys Mary and David Boies in Armonk, New York on Saturday night." http://inewstoday.net/2016/09/clinton-leaves-daughters-home-feeling-great/

I'll admit, that the former site is not one that I would trust at all, but even VICE NEWS, a left leaning news organization that does have somewhat of a following, proclaimed the same - "Despite the pneumonia diagnosis, Clinton attended a $100,000-per-ticket fundraiser at the home of prominent attorneys Mary and David Boies in Armonk, New York on Saturday night." They then go on to rail in defense of Hillary's health. https://news.vice.com/article/hillary-clintons-health-is-a-campaign-issue-again-after-she-nearly-passed-out-in-public

If it sounds like I am attacking Hillary, I am. She has a $100,000 per ticket fundraiser, and although no major news agency has reported anything on it, it bears mentioning, that Vice News does have a sizable internet audience, with a total of almost 8 million viewers between both of their Facebook pages, not to mention their website.

It leaves one to wonder, where is the evidence? Not a single photo, no major coverage of it, and a sighting of Hillary these days is almost as rare as the Loch Ness monster showing itself.

Could it be more Soros money in action, doing damage control? Perhaps. The Left has already been caught doing just that and much worse this election season. One simply doesn't report something as a reputable news agency to 8 million people, without some sort of evidence, unless they're purposely attempting to sway the thoughts of others for gain.

Extra Credit: Where is Bill?
66  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Challenge for the Generation That Experienced 9/11 on: September 12, 2016, 10:57:47 AM

Can't win a war when you can't even truthfully discuss who you are at war with.
67  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / The Dead Witch Crisis on: September 12, 2016, 10:03:44 AM
http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=8546

The Dead Witch Crisis
Posted on September 11, 2016   

The news is now full of reports that Hillary Clinton had some sort of “episode” as she was getting into her assisted living van. It’s possible she was still drunk from the night before or maybe just so hungover she could barely walk. The campaign says she has pneumonia, which could mean anything or nothing. She has disappeared from sight so we’re left to speculate, but she is clearly a woman with serious health problems. The question people are beginning to ask is can she continue to campaign? If not, will she be forced to drop out? What would happen if she did?

The funny thing about all of this is most Americans don’t know how we actually select Presidents. The voting that is done in November will not, as a legal matter, select the next President. Voting merely selects the electors who will then meet on the Monday after the second Wednesday in December. They actually meet in their respective state capitals where they cast their votes for President and Vice President. All but Maine and Nebraska have a winner take all system for selecting electors so your vote sort of matters, unless you live in a one-party state.

Similarly, each state has rules for getting on the November ballot. For example, Evan McMuffin, the Never Trump candidate, missed the deadline to be on many state ballots. This applies to the party candidates, as well, so a last minute change would create complications for the Democrats. If Hillary Clinton was suddenly incapacitated or simply quit the race, the Democrats would have a problem. They would have to go to court in some states to have their new candidate listed on the ballot. It’s not impossible, but it would be a complication.

So, what are the possible scenarios?

At this late date, finding a replacement would be complicated. The Democrat Party has rules for this scenario so they could move quickly. The rules strongly encourage the party to pick the runner up, but they can pick anyone to fill the slot. Bernie Sanders would be the obvious option, but that would mean certain defeat to Donald Trump, the nightmare scenario for both parties. The Bernie Bros are committed, but their numbers are limited. Most Americans would assume his nomination is a surrender.

They could go with a famous person with some traction in the party, but the choices are limited. Joe Biden is famous, but old and prone to saying wildly offensive things to black people and women. Elizabeth Warren is popular with the crazies, but she scares normal people. She’s also a very poor campaigner. She passed on a chance to run and passed on the VP spot. This makes forcing Clinton aside a troublesome scenario simply because the other options are only slightly better than having a corpse at the top of the ticket,

That brings up another option. Imagine that on Halloween it is reported that Clinton fell off her broom again and hit her head, rendering her incapacitated. The Democrats could reach out to Congressional Republicans and ask for a delay in the election. Congress does not have the power to dictate when people vote. They do have the power to decide when the Electors must be selected by the states. Congress could work with the states to postpone the election to December 3 in order to sort things out.

This brings us back to the first scenario, but the difference here is the crisis feel would open another dimension. The Democrats would feel free to pick anyone they like and would probably consult with the Republicans to come up with a “senior statesman” they could offer up as safe choice in a crisis. In other words, this delay would allow both parties to reset the game board so that the election was no longer about the insurgent Trump versus the corrupt system. Instead, it would be about the steady hand in a time of crisis versus the irrational hothead.

Another scenario, the high risk scenario, is for Congress to cancel the election entirely. Article II gives Congress the power to set the date electors are chosen so they can delay this indefinitely. Speaker Ryan would become acting President until Congress could come up with a new election date. Since Republicans control something like 35 state legislatures, they could stall the process so that they can stack the Electoral College with party members, who would pick a party insider. A governor like Kasich or even Jeb Bush could be installed as president.

Those are the Machiavellian scenarios. Given the nature of the political class, it seems unlikely that any of those would happen, even if Clinton drops dead tomorrow. Even so, it offers a little glimpse into the future. Over the last century, we have invested enormous power into the office of President. If you’re wondering how we can flip from republic to empire, a crisis such as the above would offer the opportunity. One candidate that is unacceptable and one that is dead, opens the door for the political class to bypass the voters and install their own man.
68  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: September 12, 2016, 09:55:36 AM
I have some EP training, the closest to working an EP detail I have done is protect two scantily clad young women promoting a cigarette brand at a biker rally filled with a lot of 1%ers.

Having said that, I know that you want to keep the principal in a secure location until you can move them to their transportation for rapid loading and departure. Having Ill-ary propped up and waiting for a vehicle was not a good thing from a protection perspective.
69  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: "Side of beef" on: September 12, 2016, 09:42:36 AM

I'm certain that the Secret Service is better than we are, but we're also pretty good at what we do.

My experience? I've worked the Enrique Peña Nieto's perimeter, the Dalai Lama, UN personnel, the governor, my general, and other things.

First off, they often times don't even like us, so they wouldn't want to be touched by us anyways. In my general's case, as far as myself and my squad are concerned, we almost our general, and wouldn't want to touch him because he's our general. In the case for example, of a visiting governor's wife I had to provide security for, the reasons are obvious. If you touch the principal or throw them around, it denotes either danger or carelessness, neither of which are good.

It was damage control at best, and panic at worst. I'm leaning towards the former due to the way they closed, preventing any additional footage from being taken. Also interesting, was the fact that the Secret Service didn't allow certain press members to leave afterwards. I forget where I read that, but I did. I'll see if I can't find it and post it here.

First EDIT: Former SS Agents stating protocol was broken (which I would agree with, if for no other reason than Clinton was left exposed - leaning against the concrete post and with a visible lack of agents surrounding her). http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/secret-service-followed-atypical-protocol-with-clinton-s-early-departure-from-sunday-911-event-a7237706.html

The Secret Service denied that protocol was broken (not surprising), but then again, they sully themselves with prostitutes in foreign countries, so who's to say?

"However, in a tweet Sunday evening the Secret Service said it had not violated protocol. " http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/295353-secret-service-may-have-broken-protocol-while-protecting

In fact, they have tweeted about it twice now. https://twitter.com/SecretService?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
"The @SecretService is confident in the actions taken by its Protective Detail earlier today."
and
"FACT CHECK: At no time did @SecretService personnel violate security protocols during the early departure of one of our protectees."

Personally, I think them even explaining it makes the situation look worse.

Yes. Typically they never comment at all about their protective details, from what I have seen.
70  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / "Side of beef" on: September 11, 2016, 09:59:30 PM
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/09/11/cnn-secret-service-agents-helped-van-law-enforcement-says-threw-like-side-beef/

Panic?
71  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / 22nd Amd. on: September 11, 2016, 09:55:15 PM
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxxii

Bill and Buraq cannot hold the position.
72  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: September 11, 2016, 07:10:47 PM
Love your humor GM..... laughing heartily here.

By the way.... in one of the videos I was studying, they say that a metallic object was dropped by Clinton today. I saw it drop, but have no idea what it was. Do you?



I am guessing a stainless steel type pen, like what zebra makes. Or a component from the exoskeleton came loose...
73  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 9/11/16 on: September 11, 2016, 07:02:06 PM

https://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/hillary-health-8-31-16.jpg

74  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / 9/11/16 on: September 11, 2016, 06:59:34 PM
https://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/csfxqpzwcaacawm.jpg

75  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: September 11, 2016, 06:23:12 PM
If she dies, does Keane take the top slot , , , leaving room for Bill or Baraq in the SP slot?

You mean VP? No, they cannot be VP as the VP must be eligible to be president.
76  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Basket of health issues on: September 11, 2016, 12:13:24 PM
https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/09/11/breaking-video-of-hillary-fainting-after-leaving-911-ceremony/
77  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Unconfirmed video of medevac from 9/11 memorial on: September 11, 2016, 11:51:10 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/zgazda66/status/774993814025011200

82 degrees, 38% humidity today.
78  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: September 11, 2016, 11:46:41 AM
I am sure she is in a private location in the emergency room right now with chiefs of cardiology sitting at her bedside.

It is common for older people to faint at church.

But usually they are more like 80 or 85 years old.  And often on water pills so they get dehydrated fast.

This could have been Atrial Fibrillation or a simple mostly benign fainting (vasovagal ) spell.  This is more than just a coughing fit for sure.

She does not appear to have the stamina one would expect from a  President.  The dems will carry her over the finish line on a stretcher if they have to.   Then bill and chelsea will help her run the White House ala Woodrow Wilson style.

Huma and her Muslim Brotherhood handlers will run things.
79  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Illary medical episode at 9/11 memorial on: September 11, 2016, 09:57:02 AM
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/709501/hillary-clinton-health-9-11-ceremony-medical-episode-coughing-faint

Hidden.
80  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / The Low-Trust State on: September 10, 2016, 08:10:02 PM
http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=8504

The Low-Trust State
Posted on September 7, 2016   

Social trust is one of those things that we know is important to economic growth, sound government and social stability. When the people of a society generally trust one another and wish to be trusted by others, their society prospers. The question that always arises is over causality. Some would argue that altruism is a biological trait that scales up to social trust. Others would argue that good government and the rule of law encourages positive economic growth, which in turn increases social trust. It is one of those topics that keeps academics busy.

The distinguishing characteristic of low-trust societies is a near total lack of trust in the state by the people. Russians, during the old Soviet Union, understood that everything that was said by the state was a lie of some sort. In fact, the only thing they could trust from the Bolsheviks was that whatever they said was untrue. This amplified the natural distrust of Russians as they did not have an authority to which they could appeal in order to arbitrate disputes. Contracts have to be enforceable before anyone will enter into them.

The point here is that you can debate the causality of social trust, but a society with a corrupt and untrustworthy state is going to be a low-trust society. Alternatively, to use the language of the pseudo-sciences, social trust correlates with public corruption. The causal arrows may point one way or both ways, but public corruption is a good proxy for social trust. There are measures of public corruption and the most popular is from these guys, who publish downloadable statistics every year for the pseudo-sciences.

Trust in the state is always going to drift over time, but you can spot some trends. Just take a look at the US over the last few decades. In the 1980’s, the savings and loan crisis put a lot of people in prison. Even some politicians got dinged for getting too cozy with the crooked bankers. A decade later we had the dot-com bubble and the accounting scandals, but no one went to jail. They just lost money. Less than a decade later we had the mortgage crisis and the crooks got bailed out by the government with taxpayer funds. This is a trend worth noticing.

Now, look around at what we are seeing today. The Clinton e-mail scandal is so outlandish, it is now threatening the rule of law. In the 70’s, Nixon was run from office from 18 missing minutes of tape. Clinton erased 17,000 emails, some may have been under subpoena. It is blazingly obvious that she and her cronies violated Federal law by mishandling classified information. The most logical explanation for all of this is they were selling it for cash through that ridiculous charity they run. A charity that has systematically violated the law with regards to accounting for donations.

How is it possible that this woman and her flunkies are not in jumpsuits waddling around Danbury FCI?

The first problem is the head of state appears to be a pathological liar. This Iran story is the sort of thing that used to bring down governments. It was certainly the sort of thing that should have administration officials hiring lawyers in preparation for the FBI visit. That would require an FBI that is not equally corrupt. Of course, the FBI is a product of the political class and ours is proving to be astonishingly corrupt. Today we learn that the politicians are conspiring to rig public hearings, which are the bedrock of popular government.

A certain amount of public corruption is to be expected. Politics will always attract shady characters, but it should also attract honest characters too. These are the folks that enjoy the boring work of good government. They police the system, enforce the rules and make public appeals for cleaning up the problems. Today, those people either do not exist or they have become too afraid to speak up. The American political class looks a lot like a corrupt police precinct. The crooks are in charge and they have inverted morality so that the honest fear detection by the corrupt.

It is not unreasonable to think that we may have passed the point where the political class can be expected to reform itself. Their unwillingness to even try to thwart the rise of these vulgar grifters from the Ozarks suggests the the political elite has lost the capacity to feel shame. Anyone willing to defend Hillary Clinton to the public is someone, who will lie about anything, violate any law, violate any taboo. That is a person lacking in anything resembling a soul. A political class populated with such people is a ruling class at war with itself, the very definition of a low trust state.

The truly frightening thing is that the only institution the public trusts is the military. Take a look at what is happening with the sports ball players protesting during the national anthem. This coming Sunday is 9/11 and even the most reptilian of Progressives are saying such a protest on that day would be a slap in the face to the men and women who serve the country. When no one trusts the ruling class, and the military is the only institution in which the public has faith, there is always one result. It does not have to be that way, but that’s the way it has always been.

At some level, some portion of the public understands this. The Trump phenomenon is not about Trump in the conventional sense. There’s a lot not to like about the man, but he is honest, he loves his countrymen and he is not doing this for the money. Whether or not he understands his role and the movement he is leading is unknown. Maybe his election will just be a false dawn and what follows is what always follows the onset of a low-trust state. If things are going to turn out different for us, Trump will win and usher in an era of reform.

Otherwise, what comes next will be much worse.
81  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Journalism is... on: September 09, 2016, 10:27:45 PM

David Burge
‏@iowahawkblog

Journalism is about covering important stories. With a pillow, until they stop moving.
82  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Putin backs China; what will Donald say now? on: September 09, 2016, 09:41:21 PM

Who is going to stop them?
83  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Already happening here, and bigger than a Tribe on the border on: September 09, 2016, 11:48:31 AM
http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a22778/hybrid-warfare/

When the Little Green Men Invade Arizona

Could Russian-style "hybrid warfare" happen on American soil?

By Joe Pappalardo
Sep 9, 2016

The biggest military victories of the 21st century didn't look like people expected. Consider Russia's seizure of Crimea from Ukraine, which relied upon not fighter jets or advanced warships but crafty public relations, Special Forces, and a proxy army.

How did Russian President Vladimir Putin do it? He started with outreach to aggrieved Russian-speaking people in Crimea, posing them as victims of the crooked Ukrainian government. Russian state media and social media flooded the region and the world with propaganda. Putin then encouraged militias to form. They seized an airport, military bases, and government buildings. A parliamentary vote declared Crimea would secede from Ukraine. A referendum, days later, voted the region to become part of Russia.

It was a new kind of invasion, and it worked.

"Once the green men are there, a revolution happens quickly."

Russian armored personnel carriers reported to be heading to Simferopol of Crimea, Ukraine on February 28, 2014.
Bulent Doruk/Anadolu Agency/Getty Images

Experts have begun to call these tactics "non-linear," "unconventional," or "information warfare." But the catchphrase getting the most traction is "hybrid war." We've seen Russia use it to grab land in Crimea, but make no mistake, this is not just an eastern European phenomenon. It could happen anywhere, including the United States.

To understand the confusing modern "hybrid" battlefield, it's helpful to place these new tactics on familiar territory. A great example of fiction informing fact is 1984's Red Dawn, in which writer/director John Milius made viewers understand the nature of guerrilla warfare via an alternate history in which Cuban and Soviet forces invaded the USA. The hypothetical scenario I'm laying out below should be considered with the same amount of skepticism—it's an extreme hypothetical, but it serves to explain the concept. All the details here are fictional, but the shadowy strategies of 21st century hybrid warfare are very real.
1) Find a Proxy

Let's say a Mexican cartel wanted to ensure its routes through a tightened U.S. border remain open. The cartel is well armed but can't out-muscle the United States military, so a direct invasion is out of the question. There is no political recourse since we're talking about an outlaw cartel and not a nation-state. But the cartel could wage a campaign using elements of hybrid warfare to gain an advantage.

It doesn't require a nation to wage a hybrid war, and criminal organizations will be drawn to hybrid warfare because it preserves anonymity. That means the first step is to find a sympathetic group on the ground to serve as a proxy. Without one, a group waging hybrid war can't take and seize terrain. (Turf isn't always the objective, but in our scenario it is.)

A member of Ukraine's disbanded elite Berkut riot police force aims his Klashnikov rifle at a checkpoint under a Russian national (L) and Russian naval (R) flags on a highway that connect Black Sea Crimea peninsula to mainland Ukraine near the city of Arm
Viktor Drachev/AFP/Getty Images

In Crimea, Ukrainians who spoke Russian served as the rallying point for an annexation. The United States has its own groups of people who feel trapped in the middle. Border tensions have been fueling discontent between the U.S. government and the Tohono O'odham nation, a Native American group whose land straddles the Mexican border. On one side, contraband smugglers make the area unstable and tempt locals to become outlaws. On the other side, fences, checkpoints, and other law enforcement efforts have disrupted the tribe's sovereignty and ability to do business.
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Earlier this year, a European researcher named Anton Shekhovtsov outlined some of the conditions needed for a hybrid war to work. One condition was introducing forces that are culturally transparent, so they "so they do not stand out as 'aliens' and, thus, compromise the operation." In Crimea that meant ethnic Russians, but in the multicultural stewpot of the United States, language and culture mean less. What matters more is the ability to infiltrate the levers of control over, and that means owning property, sponsoring local candidates and tools of communication, which the cartel can do with its ample money and legitimate business connections.

Each of these elements could be used when it comes time to drive a wedge between the tribe and the United States government.
2) Win Phase Zero

Propaganda was around long before Sun Tzu wrote about the need to sap an enemy's morale to win wars. But modern media—fast moving, fractured, and pervasive—has made the home front a primary target in hybrid war.

After finishing the referendum in Crimea, Pro-Russian people make celebrations at Lenin Square in Simferepol, Ukraine.
Getty

In the real world, the Tohono O'odham nation is already abuzz over plenty of real, legitimate concerns. Local blogs drive passions with reports of fences cutting through sacred lands, of businesses losing money because they can't freely move goods, of religious artifacts taken during Border Patrol arrests. In our fictional scenario, some creative rumor-mongering amplifies the anger.

Here's where the concept of cyberwar comes into sharp focus. Mexican cartels can hire freelance hackers to conduct industrial espionage operations that benefit cartel-friendly businesses by stealing details on bids or digging up trade secrets. Mercenary hackers from anywhere in the world can dig up dirt and blackmail moderate political voices. Websites with opposing views can be hacked and disrupted. Doctored videos and photos can spread discontent, with compromised local media eager to tout them. Politicians not used to hardball are quickly marginalized as the cartel threatens to kill them or their families.

The powder keg is ready for a spark.

This is the digital equivalent of using an artillery barrage to soften up the defender's ability to resist. "Weakening the enemy's will through nonmilitary measures will pay large dividends in the long-run," writes Nicholas Fedyk, project associate at the Berkley Center for Religion, Peace, and World Affairs in the Small War Journal.

Let's take this scenario full Crimea. Stoked by this propaganda, the tribe's confrontations and protests against the Border Patrol escalate as moderate politicians lose influence. Cartel-controlled media begin talk of a referendum on self-governance—a divorce from both the United States and Mexico.

The powder keg is ready for a spark. And that's when the little green men show up.
3) Introduce the Little Green Men

When the Russian special operations forces entered Crimea, they hid among local militia groups. They wore no insignia, but offered weapons, training, and secure communications equipment. These paramilitary units were dubbed "little green men." They were swift, effective and most of all, deniable—since they were not official Russian forces, Putin could have denied knowledge of their activities if necessary. As NATO General Philip Breedlove told a German publication in 2014: "Once the green men are there, a revolution happens quickly."

Little green men put real teeth behind the movement. In our scenario, the cartel backs Native American radical groups with experienced gunmen and former Mexican military officers who can backstop these proxies with sophisticated communication gear and heavy weapons. Some of the weapons are aimed at dissenters inside the tribe, while others threaten the Border Patrol and National Guard.

Squads of cartel killers assassinate some border patrol agents and claim credit on behalf of the tribe, putting both sides on edge and bringing U.S. military attention in the form of the National Guard. This stokes emotions on the eve of the referendum, perhaps swinging the vote toward independence. If not, the cartels rig it. The outcome is preordained either way.
4) Spark a Crisis and Take Control

When the vote of separation from the U.S. and Mexican governments succeeds, armed squads take over the highways and bridges. Border Patrol, local police, and National Guardsmen find their radios jammed, websites knocked out by DDoS attacks, and vital highways blocked by abandoned, booby-trapped trucks.

In a hybrid war, threats are even better than actions.

The cartel has invested and smuggled military grade equipment to its forces, and they wield shoulder-fired missiles that can shoot down helicopters. A traditional general, interested in causing enemy casualties, would keep this hardware a secret until it was time to surprise an enemy. But in a hybrid war, threats are even better than actions. This is the power of information—a single Youtube video can ground a fleet of the world's most advanced reconnaissance and attack helicopters.

The independent nation can now declare its right to self-defense in attacking any other government troops violating its turf. The Russian and Chinese, delighted with this knock to American hegemony, backs the claim at the United Nations.

People celebrate the first anniversary of the signing of the decree on the annexation of the Crimea by the Russian Federation, on March 18, 2015 in Sevastopol, Crimea.
Getty Alexander Aksakov

The cartel's revolution has succeeded. Like ISIS, it now owns territory and can impose governmental means of control, like laws, taxes, and jail sentences. It has transformed from a transnational crime syndicate to something like a nation. Smugglers now operate with impunity, weakly monitored by the cartel-beholden government. The puppet ruling party soon enacts a zero-extradition policy and few legal controls over its permissive banking system. It's like a little Cayman Islands right along the border. The Tohono O'odham—very of few of whom had to be complicit in this movement for it to succeed—finds themselves in a nation run by a criminal organization.
21st Century Total War

The tactics and techniques outlined in this hypothetical scenario may seem far-fetched, sure. But people in Crimea and Ukraine just watched more outlandish power grabs succeed even as NATO, Europe, and the United States looked on.

It was a new kind of invasion, and it worked.

The reality of hybrid warfare is a stark reminder to anyone who thinks the idea of total war has vanished in the glare of the information age. Instead of carpet bombing cities and launching land-grab invasions, the 21st century's version of total war is more subtle, effective, and exportable.

Don't believe it could happen here? Take a look at what's happening with claims of Russian hacking and its impact on the U.S. election. Consider the targets of Anna Chapman and other Russian spy rings in America. Ponder the industrial espionage aimed at defense firms and federal agencies. For all we know, the hybrid war against the United States may have already begun.
84  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / The spy shop catalog not meant for you to see on: September 09, 2016, 08:51:22 AM
http://weaponsman.com/?p=34822

Covert.
85  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Another convenient grant of immunity on: September 08, 2016, 11:20:00 PM
Yes .  Why is it there is no scrutiny of her lawyers who contributed or allowed there to be destruction of evidence:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/439804/clintons-e-mail-scandal-stinkier-stinkier-documents-destroyed-after-subpoena

Or the IT workers that destroyed evidence after they knew it was subpoenaed....

Because the rule of law is dead in this country.

As I was saying....

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/09/us/politics/hillary-clinton-emails-investigation.html?_r=0

Granted immunity, just like Hillary.
86  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: September 08, 2016, 08:28:02 PM
Yes .  Why is it there is no scrutiny of her lawyers who contributed or allowed there to be destruction of evidence:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/439804/clintons-e-mail-scandal-stinkier-stinkier-documents-destroyed-after-subpoena

Or the IT workers that destroyed evidence after they knew it was subpoenaed....

Because the rule of law is dead in this country.
87  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: digitalize voting and we have risk of massive fraud not less fraud on: September 08, 2016, 06:48:29 PM
I note that vote fraud is now only a issue because the dems fear it hurting them.



Gee who could have guessed that digitalizing voting would allow put fraud on steroids or add rocket boosters to fraud and the risk of unlimited fraud and confusion:

http://www.breitbart.com/news/jeh-johnson-says-dhs-effort-is-not-a-federal-takeover-of-elections/
88  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Mexican Citzen Openly Calling For Trump's Assassination on: September 08, 2016, 06:47:17 PM

The last US-Mexico war didn't go so well for Mexico, pretty sure a second one will turn out the same way.


http://silenceisconsent.net/mexican-encourages-his-people-to-assassinate-donald-trump-and-kill-his-supporters/#sthash.yucjMpR1.dpbs


“We, Mexicans, have to kill Donald J. Trump before he becomes President. He is a threat to every single one of us. There are many Mexican Americans living in the U.S. right now and I’m asking them to kill Donald Trump before he becomes President. The ones in Mexico who have the means, I’m asking you to cross the border and go and kill Donald Trump, and as many of his supporters as possible,” he states.

Anywhere he goes just try to bomb the place, shoot up the place, do something. If you could go back in time and kill Hitler, and kill the Nazis, would you do it? We have a modern day Hitler, and we have to kill him before he gets into power,” he adds.

“So I want you to spread this message, and I’m encouraging every single Mexican out there who has the guts to stand up for the Mexican people and to kill Trump and his Nazi followers. Let’s do this. Viva Mexico! F**k those motherf***ers,” he concludes.

89  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Indiana First in Legalizing Armed Police Drones on: September 08, 2016, 06:44:03 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/north-dakota-becomes-first-us-state-to-legalise-use-of-armed-drones-by-police-10492397.html

One thing I found troubling, "However, the state's police union amended the Bill, limiting the ban to only lethal weapons..."

Since when do police unions have the power to legislate? That's news to me.

Probably poorly written. It probably means that the police union lobbied to have the bill amended, and was successful.
90  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: September 08, 2016, 11:05:45 AM
Evidently NBC is hammering anyone that is using the video. My apologies.

I'll remove it so it doesn't chew up space.



Memory holes gotta eat.
91  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Gary Johnson cites the Libertarian platform on: September 08, 2016, 10:37:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAiFSHfMeio

#Invalid YouTube Link#

Campaign stop at a convenience store.
92  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / The Low-Trust State on: September 08, 2016, 10:27:10 AM
http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=8504

The Low-Trust State
Posted on September 7, 2016   

Social trust is one of those things that we know is important to economic growth, sound government and social stability. When the people of a society generally trust one another and wish to be trusted by others, their society prospers. The question that always arises is over causality. Some would argue that altruism is a biological trait that scales up to social trust. Others would argue that good government and the rule of law encourages positive economic growth, which in turn increases social trust. It is one of those topics that keeps academics busy.

The distinguishing characteristic of low-trust societies is a near total lack of trust in the state by the people. Russians, during the old Soviet Union, understood that everything that was said by the state was a lie of some sort. In fact, the only thing they could trust from the Bolsheviks was that whatever they said was untrue. This amplified the natural distrust of Russians as they did not have an authority to which they could appeal in order to arbitrate disputes. Contracts have to be enforceable before anyone will enter into them.

The point here is that you can debate the causality of social trust, but a society with a corrupt and untrustworthy state is going to be a low-trust society. Alternatively, to use the language of the pseudo-sciences, social trust correlates with public corruption. The causal arrows may point one way or both ways, but public corruption is a good proxy for social trust. There are measures of public corruption and the most popular is from these guys, who publish downloadable statistics every year for the pseudo-sciences.

Trust in the state is always going to drift over time, but you can spot some trends. Just take a look at the US over the last few decades. In the 1980’s, the savings and loan crisis put a lot of people in prison. Even some politicians got dinged for getting too cozy with the crooked bankers. A decade later we had the dot-com bubble and the accounting scandals, but no one went to jail. They just lost money. Less than a decade later we had the mortgage crisis and the crooks got bailed out by the government with taxpayer funds. This is a trend worth noticing.

Now, look around at what we are seeing today. The Clinton e-mail scandal is so outlandish, it is now threatening the rule of law. In the 70’s, Nixon was run from office from 18 missing minutes of tape. Clinton erased 17,000 emails, some may have been under subpoena. It is blazingly obvious that she and her cronies violated Federal law by mishandling classified information. The most logical explanation for all of this is they were selling it for cash through that ridiculous charity they run. A charity that has systematically violated the law with regards to accounting for donations.

How is it possible that this woman and her flunkies are not in jumpsuits waddling around Danbury FCI?

The first problem is the head of state appears to be a pathological liar. This Iran story is the sort of thing that used to bring down governments. It was certainly the sort of thing that should have administration officials hiring lawyers in preparation for the FBI visit. That would require an FBI that is not equally corrupt. Of course, the FBI is a product of the political class and ours is proving to be astonishingly corrupt. Today we learn that the politicians are conspiring to rig public hearings, which are the bedrock of popular government.

A certain amount of public corruption is to be expected. Politics will always attract shady characters, but it should also attract honest characters too. These are the folks that enjoy the boring work of good government. They police the system, enforce the rules and make public appeals for cleaning up the problems. Today, those people either do not exist or they have become too afraid to speak up. The American political class looks a lot like a corrupt police precinct. The crooks are in charge and they have inverted morality so that the honest fear detection by the corrupt.

It is not unreasonable to think that we may have passed the point where the political class can be expected to reform itself. Their unwillingness to even try to thwart the rise of these vulgar grifters from the Ozarks suggests the the political elite has lost the capacity to feel shame. Anyone willing to defend Hillary Clinton to the public is someone, who will lie about anything, violate any law, violate any taboo. That is a person lacking in anything resembling a soul. A political class populated with such people is a ruling class at war with itself, the very definition of a low trust state.

The truly frightening thing is that the only institution the public trusts is the military. Take a look at what is happening with the sports ball players protesting during the national anthem. This coming Sunday is 9/11 and even the most reptilian of Progressives are saying such a protest on that day would be a slap in the face to the men and women who serve the country. When no one trusts the ruling class, and the military is the only institution in which the public has faith, there is always one result. It does not have to be that way, but that’s the way it has always been.

At some level, some portion of the public understands this. The Trump phenomenon is not about Trump in the conventional sense. There’s a lot not to like about the man, but he is honest, he loves his countrymen and he is not doing this for the money. Whether or not he understands his role and the movement he is leading is unknown. Maybe his election will just be a false dawn and what follows is what always follows the onset of a low-trust state. If things are going to turn out different for us, Trump will win and usher in an era of reform.

Otherwise, what comes next will be much worse.
93  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: We the Well-armed People (gun and knife rights stuff ) on: September 08, 2016, 10:09:47 AM
I think the role of gun confiscator would be a very dangerous one in large swaths of the US.
94  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Clinton-Trump Commander in Chief Forum on: September 08, 2016, 08:21:27 AM
Anyone that thinks that China, Russia and others weren't reading everything in Hillary's servers is a child.


My favorite quote of the night?

"I have a lot of experience handling classified material."
                                                       Hillary Clinton

Yes... you do.... you hand it out like candy on Halloween.



95  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / (C) means corruption on: September 07, 2016, 08:50:39 AM
https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/09/06/julian-assange-we-have-released-thousands-of-emails-where-clinton-herself-has-used-a-c-in-brackets/?singlepage=true

Crooked Hillary and Crooked Comey corrupted the FBI.
96  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Not all immigrants are the same on: September 06, 2016, 09:54:54 PM
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/09/hugh-fitzgerald-never-mind-about-50-million-frenchman-can-13000-chinese-be-wrong

Hugh Fitzgerald: Never Mind About 50 Million Frenchman – Can 13,000 Chinese Be Wrong?

September 5, 2016 10:54 am By Hugh Fitzgerald 91 Comments

Given the big demonstration in Paris on September 4, I’d like to come back to the same subject I posted about two weeks ago.

Chinese rally

“Thousands rally in Paris to protest crime targeting Chinese,” Reuters, September 4, 2016:

    At least 13,000 people [the latest figures range from 15,000 to 50,000] attended a rally in Paris on Sunday to protest against what they say is a crime wave targeting the Chinese community in France, police said, after a Chinese textile designer died after being mugged last month.

    Demonstrators waving French flags and sporting T-shirts printed with the slogans “Stop violence, muggings, insecurity” or “Equality for all, security for all” marched from the Place de Republique square to the Bastille in eastern Paris, asking for more police protection.

    Chaoling Zhang, a 49-year-old textile designer, died last month after five days in a coma after being attacked in the northern Paris suburb of Aubervilliers by three men who stole his bag.

    Members of Aubervilliers’ large Chinese community, home to many Chinese immigrants, said that the death of Chaolin Zhang was the latest in a string of targeted assaults.

    At first it was just stealing bags, then it was stealing bags with violence, and now it’s stealing bags and killing. It could happen to anyone,” 31-year-old Wang Yunzhou told Reuters TV.

    The people here are angry. We can’t feel relaxed in the street, and if we don’t even get a basic welcome in the police station people start to wonder,” he said, adding that he moved to France from Wenzhou in south east China twenty years ago.

    Aubervilliers, which has a population of 77,500, is home to a large Chinese community connected to the garment trade. Some 600,000 ethnic Chinese people live in the country overall, including French citizens.

    Last month, 27 Chinese tourists were robbed and their driver sprayed with tear gas as they boarded a bus that was to take them to Paris’s Charles de Gaulle airport. The incident raised fears that Chinese tourists, important luxury spenders, would stop coming to Paris.

    Tourist traffic in Paris has dropped significantly since attacks by Islamist militants last November, leading to sharp declines in sales for luxury goods makers but also for the capital’s retailers, hotels and restaurants.

    Attacks on Chinese, Korean and Japanese tourists are also frequent in the French capital as robbers believe they carry large sums in cash and their suitcases are stuffed with luxury goods purchased in Paris, according to police.

    In May, Paris Mayor Anne Hidalgo traveled to Beijing to reassure Chinese authorities that Paris – the most visited city in the world – had taken measures to beef up its security.

Now what is striking about this Reuters article is that it nowhere identifies those who are attacking the Chinese. Nor are they identified in this story from Channel News Asia, nor in this one from RFI, nor in this from Le Figaro, nor in any of the half-dozen other versions of the story I’ve checked. Not one of them, that is, dares to make mention of “Islam” or “Muslims,” even though in Paris and in Aubervilliers, the Chinese are protesting the violence visited upon them from Muslims, calling it “anti-Asian racism.”

When I posted my piece on the attacks that the Chinese immigrants in Aubervilliers, a heavily Muslim suburb on the outskirts of Paris, endure from their Muslim neighbors, I noted that Muslims have been robbing, extorting money from businesses, physically attacking, and even killing Chinese immigrants who have the misfortune to live and work near them. I should also have noted that robberies of the Chinese in Aubervilliers have tripled in just one year. Some explain this by suggesting the Muslims feel humiliated because the Chinese clothing and textile warehouses, and import-export shopping malls, are so successful, standing in silent economic reproach of the Muslims, who tend to live off welfare benefits for as long as they can (some are very good at turning it into a lifetime benefit), and have failed to demonstrate any entrepreneurial flair, unlike the Chinese migrants. But that’s nonsense. The Muslims in France aren’t ashamed of living off welfare; they’re proud they can manipulate the system, and claim their informal Jizyah from French taxpayers. The main reason that the Chinese are attacked in Aubervilliers is the same reason that the French are attacked – they are Infidels, and thus a legitimate target for Muslims. Chinese property is as much a form of Jizyah as are the welfare benefits offered by the French state.

This harassment of the Chinese near Paris has been going on for a long time. It got so bad that at one point the Chinese ambassador to France was forced to pay a visit to Aubervilliers to try to calm his countrymen down. And in 2013, the Socialist mayor of Aubervilliers, Jacques Salvator, suggested that the violence against them could be halted if Chinese companies would agree to hire more Arabs and Africans. The Chinese were not assuaged, countering that “Muslims do not work as hard as the Chinese, that they are more demanding, and that they complain too much.”Anyone familiar with Muslim work habits would need no convincing.

Since that demonstration in Aubervilliers two weeks ago, apparently little has been done to placate the Chinese. They described to reporters covering their demonstration in Paris their feeling of frustration at not being listened to by the French authorities who, they said, fail to realize what kind of daily terror they endure. And in addition to the attacks on Chinese who live in the suburbs, there has been a steady increase in the number of attacks targeting Chinese (and Korean, and Japanese) tourists in central Paris. These Asian tourists are known both to buy luxury goods to take home with them, and to carry lots of cash. Just the other day, a gang of six (unidentified men) jumped onto a bus just about to leave a hotel for the airport, and made off with luxury-filled luggage belonging to the 27 Chinese tourists on board. The attackers in Aubervilliers have been identified as Muslims, but in the stories about attacks on Chinese tourists the criminals are not identified. But reading between the lines suggests that those attacking the tourists, like those known to be attacking the Chinese in Aubervilliers, are Muslims, and for a simple reason: had any of these criminals been French, the press, which tends to protect Muslims, would certainly have been eager to describe them as such. A refusal to identify them, in the current climate, almost certainly means they were Muslims.

So on September 4, in Paris, according to the police, at least 15,000 Chinese showed up to demand “security for all.” Chinese sources claim that as many as 50,000 people may have turned out to show support. It’s a fantastic showing, in any case, and what’s more, no one can dismiss it as a “right-wing” or “racist” rally because it’s not white Frenchmen, but Chinese who are protesting against the “anti-Asian racism” by their attackers. Since some white Europeans may still be reluctant to stand up for themselves against Muslims, then perhaps they will find it easier to stand up for the Chinese in France as, in the U.K., it may be easier for the British to stand up for Hindus and Sikhs, and then Europeans will begin to realize – as I wrote two weeks ago and will repeat verbatim here – that wherever you look, it’s not a case of Islam against the West, but of Islam against All the Rest.
97  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / The qualified Jeh Johnson at ISNA on: September 06, 2016, 06:29:08 PM
https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2016/09/06/dhs-secretary-jeh-johnson-speaks-at-convention-of-hamas-linked-group/

Qualified to speak at HAMAS/Muslim Brotherhood front group.
98  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Circle Jerk Math on: September 06, 2016, 05:06:39 PM
The big money has purchased access to both. Still, this will be the most hacked and fraudulent vote in what is left of this nation's history.


What do you get when you combine the following?

Donald Trump + (Goldman Sachs * 2) = A 650 million outstanding loan due to Goldman Sachs from the Donster = GS Employees given charge of his campaign operations and finances, + a probable Secretary of the Treasury position should Trump Win
http://fortune.com/2016/07/19/here-is-who-donald-trump-wants-for-treasury-secretary/
His outstanding loan to Goldman Sachs http://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-donald-trump-companies-at-least-650-million-in-debt/

Hillary Clinton + her Foundation + a liberal orgy that's finally named Chelsea + 1 yamika = "the whole Clinton clan will convene at Goldman Sachs headquarters in Manhattan for a meet and greet with top donors to the Bill, Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation. The New York Times reported last month" http://freebeacon.com/blog/clintons-sachs-ual-relations/ AND a the reality that 25 million dollars from lost hedge funds at Goldman Sachs = a $10,000,000 apartment for love child in Manhattan. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3584863/Chelsea-Clinton-s-husband-Marc-colleagues-Goldman-Sachs-shutter-25million-hedge-fund-losing-nearly-investors-money-good-thing-10million-apartment.html

Crooked Clinton + 2 Guys from Kansas = Yet another way Clinton is attached to Trump and vice versa because....
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/07/koch-brothers-now-supporting-hillary-clinton.html
Is the same as
Goldman Sachs = Koch=Trump=Clinton
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-04-10/koch-goldman-agree-to-buy-printing-ink-maker-flint-from-cvc

We've gone full circle and haven't even said anything that hasn't been in the news. Vote? What flippin vote?


99  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / China bitch-slaps Buraq on: September 06, 2016, 03:58:19 PM
http://www.jerusalemonline.com/news/world-news/around-the-globe/watch-china-humiliates-obama-with-disrespectful-greeting-23401

Watch: China greets Obama in unusual manner, sparking controversy
In the past eight years, the US President has never been received in such a humiliating manner. The Chinese government apparently wanted to relay a message to Washington when it forced the US President to descend Air Force One via the back door and without a red carpet.
Sep 4, 2016, 2:00PM
Becca Noy

 

http://www.jerusalemonline.com/news/world-news/around-the-globe/watch-china-humiliates-obama-with-disrespectful-greeting-23401


Chinese leaders sparked a diplomatic storm when they welcomed US President Barack Obama in a humiliating manner yesterday (Saturday). Obama, who arrived in China for the G20 summit, was forced to descend the plane without the usual red carpet and from the backside of the plane while no senior level Chinese officials greeted him.

The Chinese authorities pulled out the red carpet for Russian President Vladimir Putin, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, French President François Hollande, Brazilian President Michel Temer and British Prime Minister Theresa May. However, Obama, who is in the middle of what appears to be his last trip to Asia, was forced to leave the plane from the back door.

On the ground, one of the Chinese officials was seen shouting: “This is our country, this is our airport.” A New York Times reporter who was at the scene said that the way Obama and the White House staff members were greeted was insulting.

Mexico’s former ambassador to China Jorge Guajardo told The Guardian that he is certain that Obama’s humiliating greeting was not a mistake. “These things do not happen by mistake. Not with the Chinese,” said Guajardo.
100  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: US-China (& Japan, South China Sea-- Vietnam, Philippines, etc) on: September 06, 2016, 03:41:55 PM
Note that China has quite deliberately and publicly humiliated Empty Suit Buraq at the G20, yet somehow our professional journalists seem to have missed that.
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