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1  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: VIDEO CLIPS OF INTEREST on: December 31, 2011, 11:27:16 PM
this is one of those videos that makes you go, HMMMM! http://youtu.be/3O-YKzdTT3A
Butter knife cutting a bullet in two! they revisited the one with the katana cutting
a .45 caliber bullet, but this takes the cake! shocked
2  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Movies/TV of interest on: August 03, 2011, 11:18:04 PM
here's an interesting indie film about irish travellers, http://knucklethemovie.com/
the doc deals with this bare knuckle fighting sub culture that still exist in ireland.

matinik
3  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Movies/TV of interest on: May 13, 2011, 06:44:55 PM
it would appear that mr tony jaa is poised for a comeback: afro


Courtesy of twitchfilm.com

by Todd Brown, April 26, 2011 10:26 AM

Tony Jaa is taking another very big step towards reclaiming his position as the top martial arts screen fighter in the world. And this one is more than a little bit surprising on a great number of levels.

We brought word earlier this month of a new Hong Kong based project that would match Jaa with fight choreographer Sammo Hung and now Thailand's Sahamongkol Film have announced that Jaa will reunite with director Prachya Pinkaew and fight choreographer Panna Rittikrai for Tom Yum Goong 2.

Missing elephant jokes aside, this is big news for Jaa with the original Tom Yum Goong - released as The Protector in North America - marking both his last true hit and the beginnings of his troubles. It was immediately after Tom Yum Goong that Jaa essentially declared Pinkaew unnecessary and unwanted, announcing that he would direct his next film himself. Pinkaew was deeply insulted and the relationship between the star and the director who built his career degraded to the point where they weren't even on speaking terms. Pinkaew would go on to groom Jija Yanin in Chocolate while Jaa would crumble badly under the pressure of directing Ong Bak 2 himself, eventually losing control of the badly over budget and over schedule project.

But Tom Yum Goong 2 will reunite the entire Tom Yum Goong / Ong Bak team with Jaa in the lead, Pinkaew directing, Rittikrai handling fight choreography and Chocolate star Jija Yanin also handed a significant role - the first time Jaa has ever shared the stage with another marquee fighter. Like the upcoming Chocolate 2, this film will be shot in digital 3D.

The big surprises in this are twofold. First, Jaa and Pinkaew have patched things up and are working together again. This can only be viewed as a good thing because, frankly, neither has been as good without the other. The bigger surprise, though, is that Jaa is once again in the Sahamongkol fold, which I would never, ever have expected to happen. Jaa's original ten year contract with the company will have expired before this film goes in to production, meaning that they have struck a new deal. Consider that at the peak of the Ong Bak 2 debacle Jaa took refuge in a police station claiming that the studio had sent gangsters after him and, well ... the prospect of the star willingly signing up with the studio again seemed unlikely to say the least. Whether there was any basis to the gangster story isn't even the point - if Jaa believed there was enough truth to it that he sought police protection that says something about how incredibly bad the situation between star and company had gotten and I'm amazed that they've gotten back together.

Pinkaew's Chocolate 2 is scheduled to go in to production in May and will need to be completed before this can begin, so don't expect Tom Yum Goong 2 any time soon. But fans should be happy to know it's coming.
4  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: UFC/MMA Thread on: March 21, 2011, 11:49:13 PM
woof guro crafty

i believe the verse is:

Philippians 4:13 (New King James Version)
I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.

Matinik
5  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Movies/TV of interest on: April 18, 2010, 11:43:35 PM
a couple of documentaries are coming out this year:
a film called eskrimador (www.eskrimadorsdocu.com/) and the bladed hand
(www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=345346948419).
Both looks great with the latter interviewing guro Dan Inosanto, guro Jeff Imada and other luminaries featured
such as Topher Ricketts of Ilustrisimo USA and his sons Bruce and Brandon. the trailer
for the latter is posted in youtube.
afro
6  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Movies/TV of interest on: September 27, 2009, 01:55:22 AM
SOV is cool! korean action movies are among the best, so it really galls me that will smith and speilberg is trying
to remake old boy huh. can't they leave well enough alone!?  and don't get me started on the remake of
ENTER THE DRAGON WITHOUT MARTIAL ARTS AT IT'S CORE ! angry angry angry

but i digress.... wink

SG, you might want to check out "throwdown" by johnny to. the flick was released a few yrs back and it featured
judo. kind of interesting since the art is seen from the chinese prespective. i thought johnny to did a good
job on it. as for dynamite warrior, SG, i'm gonna suggest that you watch it without any expectation that it is
up to par with ONG Bak1 or 2, and enjoy it for all it's glorious wackiness grin

another film that's out is Merantau featuring menangkabau/harimau silat. nice just to see silat on screen.
www.merantau-movie.com

and on a sad note: one of the most talented action actor/director around, donnie yen will be retiring some time soon
(2012 if memory serves) BUT will concentrate on directing/fight choreography. guess dacades of making great movies has taken it's
toll on the body. he has assassins and bodyguards next, followed directly by ip man 2 (more wing chun goodness) afro
7  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Movies/TV of interest on: September 18, 2009, 10:52:12 PM
caught that SG! cool show.  afro

here's another interesting tidbit: tony jaa's next film was supposed to be a film called Sword featuring, you guest it, krabi krabong!
TJ, however, had a falling out with a producer and cancelled the film altogether cry!

BUT.....

"‘Ong Bak 3′ shooting as Magnolia nabs ‘Ong Bak 2′

News | Film News | by Mark Pollard

ONG BAK 2 Magnolia Pictures has announced today the acquisition of U.S. rights to Tony Jaa’s ONG BAK 2. The company previously released the original ONG BAK and now plans to release the Thai martial arts sequel in theaters later this year through their Magnet genre label. This news comes on the same day that Prachya Pinkaew’s autistic martial arts actioner CHOCOLATE arrives on DVD and Blu-ray courtesy of Magnet.

“When we first saw the original ONG BAK, after picking our jaws off the floor, we knew we wanted to be in the Tony Jaa business. It put us on the map as a home for the best in genre fare, and helped make our genre label Magnet possible,” said Magnolia President Eamonn Bowles. “We’re beyond thrilled to be able to carry the franchise forward and continue our relationship with Tony, Sahamongkol, and the entire creative team involved.”

The film and its star were involved in controversy last year when it was reported that Jaa, then also director of the production, had walked off the set amid rumors of runaway budget costs. After a televised admission by a teary-eyed Jaa that he was basically in over his head as a first-time director, he handed the production over to longtime mentor, action director Panna Rittikrai (BORN TO FIGHT). The film was completed and released to theaters in Thailand in December of 2008.

In the same announcement, it has been confirmed that production on ONG BAK 3 has already begun and is scheduled for release in December 2009. Sahamongkol Film has already stated that the third film will feature more fighting between Tony Jaa and DYNAMITE WARRIOR star Dan Chupong. Also, Jaa’s character will suffer crippling torture that forces him to fight without using his bones. Presumably that means no knee or elbow action, which should be very interesting given that Jaa’s specialty is Muay Thai."

this could be some sort of homage to jackie chan's last great film, drunken master 2, since, TJ is reportedly a big fan of JC!
8  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Football concussions, a story on: September 18, 2009, 05:09:35 PM
Effects of head trauma scaring Turley
Michael Silver

By Michael Silver, Yahoo! Sports 5 hours, 59 minutes ago


When Kyle Turley(notes) reflects on the most significant concussion of his nine-year NFL career, he has to work hard to suppress his laughter.

While playing for the St. Louis Rams in 2003, the ultraphysical tackle took a blow to the helmet and lost consciousness on the final play of the third quarter. He spent the rest of the game – which seemed, to him, like it lasted five minutes – on the sideline in a daze. He wanted to wave to his wife, Stacy, but was unable to remember the location of the luxury box where she was regularly stationed and eventually gave up. At game’s end he retreated to the locker room with his teammates, and then things got even blurrier.

“I went into the shower, and as the story was told to me later, I was sitting at my locker, butt-naked, when our owner [Georgia Frontiere] came in to congratulate us,” Turley says. “I don’t remember doing this, but everybody said I stood up and hugged her, totally naked, right there in the middle of the room.”

Yet any unintentional humor that stemmed from the incident is trivial given the long-term damage that Turley, a former NFL All-Pro, may have sustained from that and other instances of head-related trauma. More than a year and a half removed from his playing days, Turley is now experiencing symptoms which, he and his doctors fear, could point to a chilling prognosis.

Late last month Turley, with no apparent cause or warning, collapsed while listening to music at a club near his Nashville-area home and passed out for several seconds. Shortly thereafter, while battling vertigo, he began vomiting uncontrollably as Stacy rushed him to a nearby hospital. After being admitted to an emergency triage unit, a disoriented Turley was in and out of consciousness for the next several hours.

At one point, he recalls, “I was having a full-on seizure-type-thing, probably because my potassium levels were so low. I was on a table just flipping around like a fish; I was fully conscious and knew what I wanted to say, but I couldn’t speak. Realistically, if I hadn’t gone to the hospital, my kidneys could’ve shut down and I probably could have died.

“It was definitely the scariest experience of my life.”

Nearly four weeks later, what’s even scarier to Turley is the notion that his nightmare may have only just begun. Though doctors haven’t been able to give him the conclusive cause of the episode he experienced that night – or of the migraine headaches, dizzy spells and disorientation which have followed – the presumption is that he’s feeling the effects of the head-related trauma he endured during his playing career.

One expert even fears that Turley could be on the road to contracting Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy (CTE), the degenerative neurological condition that, researchers think, contributed greatly to the violent deaths of former NFL players Andre Waters and Justin Strzelczyk.

Now here’s perhaps the most disturbing information of all: Turley, relative to his peers, had no sense that he was a particularly likely candidate for such a daunting diagnosis.

“I never considered myself a guy that had a lot of head injuries,” Turley says. “But the doctors I’ve seen are very concerned about my past history, and when I look back on some of what I experienced, it makes me angry. Guys are going crazy, and my wife and I just had a baby boy. I don’t want that to happen to me.”

Turley, who believes he was given inadequate medical care during his career by the three teams for which he played, plans to contact a lawyer about the possibility of suing the NFL. “We could be talking about a class-action suit,” he says.

Turley’s concern comes at a time when awareness about brain injuries finally seems to be gaining traction among NFL players, team physicians and league and NFL Players Association officials. A league-sponsored players’ health and safety summit on mild traumatic brain injury was held in Chicago in 2007, followed by another concussion-specific conference at the league’s New York City headquarters this past May.

Among the promising developments: a move toward uniform terminology and testing policies among team medical personnel; enhanced helmet technology; recent rule changes regarding helmet-to-helmet and other dangerous hits, and the elimination of the kickoff wedge; a “whistle-blower” hotline for players to report unsatisfactorily addressed head injuries; and an apparent push by newly elected NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith to make player-safety issues more of a priority than they were under predecessor Gene Upshaw.

“ ‘Passionate’ doesn’t begin to describe how De Smith feels about the medical issues,” says Dr. Thom Mayer, who has been the union’s medical director since 2001. “He is possessed. To him, they are non-negotiable. He has suggested that I attend the [negotiation sessions for the new collective bargaining agreement] and I intend to be there at the table.”

Still, says Arizona Cardinals receiver and special-teams ace Sean Morey(notes), a member of the NFLPA Player Safety and Welfare committee, the current landscape is far from ideal. For one thing, players aren’t educated enough about the long-term safety issues associated with concussions.

“In my experience, 50 percent of players’ concussions go unreported, and that’s something we’ve got to change,” says Morey, one of three current players (along with Seattle Seahawks middle linebacker Lofa Tatupu(notes) and Baltimore Ravens center Matt Birk(notes)) who announced earlier this week they’d agreed to donate their brains after death to a Boston University medical-school program that studies severe postconcussion ailments. “If players understood the risks more clearly – the effects of cumulative concussions or of suffering repetitive head trauma over the course of a career – I believe they’d be a lot more willing to let the trainers and doctors do their jobs.”

One major problem, as Turley, Morey and others readily admit, is that there are a lot of forces working against increased diligence on the part of players. For one thing, because NFL employment is such a tenuous proposition for many, most non-stars fear that they’ll be replaced if unduly sidelined. It’s also true that most players are highly competitive souls who pride themselves on toughness and try to plow through all but the most debilitating injuries.

“Professional players naturally want to play,” Morey says. “We want to keep our jobs, we have loyalty to our coaches and teammates, and we desperately want to win. Typically, when we get a concussion, our first reaction is to avoid the trainer at all costs. That’s just our mentality, our culture.”

For that reason, many minor concussions are routinely dismissed as “dings” by the afflicted party, with no sense of the potential for long-term consequences. “I think most of us have no idea how many concussions we’ve really had,” says New Orleans Saints linebacker Scott Fujita(notes). “In my experience, when you’re evaluated on the sidelines, as long as you can see how many fingers the doctor is holding up and you’re willing to play, you’ll play.”

In Turley’s case, it rarely came to that. Aside from the serious concussion he suffered in St. Louis, he says the other cases of head trauma he experienced in the NFL “were ‘dings’ where I’d get cross-eyed and not see straight for a whole series. … I’d see three guys for every real one, and I’d say, ‘[Expletive] it, I’m gonna hit the guy in the middle.’ That happened to me maybe two or three times every season.”

Given that Turley experienced vertigo as early on as his college days at San Diego State – a condition doctors have recently told him is treatable – he says the treatment he received from team medical personnel was cavalier and not viewed from a long-term health perspective. (Turley played for three franchises: the Rams, Saints and Kansas City Chiefs. All three teams denied requests by Y! Sports to speak to doctors and trainers who evaluated him.)

In New Orleans, Turley says, “I got out of bed one day and ran into a wall. My wife had to drive me to practice, and when I got there and told them what was up, all they did was put me in a room, put the lights out and say, ‘Lay down and go to sleep.’ I was puking all over the place, in and out of consciousness – I probably could have died. At the end of the day, they called my wife and had her pick me up, and that was it.

“I had some serious episodes like that, and never did they tell me to see this specialist or get these tests or figure out if it could be treated. Now I see that vertigo is a big problem with retired players, and it [expletive] me off.”

After his severe concussion (and unclothed encounter with the now-deceased Frontiere) in St. Louis, Turley says, “They put me in a room, and they were gonna let me go home. I was walking out of the dome with my wife, and we ran into [the Green Bay Packers’] Joe Johnson, who’d been my teammate in New Orleans. He could tell I wasn’t right and told Stacy, ‘Man, he’s [expletive] up.’ She said, ‘I know. I need some help.’ Eventually she found someone and had to force them to take me to the hospital, and they kept me overnight.

“The next week, my head still wasn’t right but they let me play in that game against Pittsburgh. I was like, ‘[Expletive] it, I’ll play.’ But I wish I hadn’t.”

Turley, who finished his career with the Chiefs in ’07, remembers sitting in a cold tub after a game at Arrowhead Stadium with teammate Richie Scanlon, a special-teams player and linebacker.

“He came in and had a broken nose that was cracked all the way across,” Turley recalls. “All of a sudden, in 50-degree water, he passes out. I went and told the trainers and doctors and they said, ‘He’s all right.’ I said, ‘No, he’s not. If you guys let this guy go home right now, I’m gonna file a report against you for negligence.’ He ended up in the hospital, and they kept him for a couple of days.”

Under the whistle-blower system now in place, Turley (or any team employee) could have called an 800 number to report Scanlon’s situation to the league and NFLPA without fear of retribution from his employer. Yet Turley believes there is a larger issue at cross-purposes with player safety.

“The problem is, the team physicians are employees of the club,” Turley says. “They have the team’s best interests at heart, and that’s having your best players on the field, regardless of whether that’s in the best interests of the player. So even if you’re in Disneyland in your head, if you can play semi-effectively they still want you out there. There’s a complete [expletive] bias.”

Turley says that the NFLPA, as it negotiates a new collective bargaining agreement with the league, should push for union-employed doctors on the sidelines.

“Perhaps that could work in an ideal world,” says Dr. Gary Solomon, a Nashville-based neuropsychologist who is a Titans team physician (and who has recently evaluated Turley, which he won’t discuss). “But that’s not where we live.”

Adds Chris Nowinski, a former Harvard football player and professional wrestler who is the co-director of Boston University’s Center for the Study of Traumatic Encephalopathy: “That system would be scrapped the second Tom Brady(notes) was yanked in the fourth quarter of a close game. But it is a problem – players tell us all the time, ‘Doctors are more worried about keeping their jobs than about our health,’ and some of the more ethical team doctors have been fired in years past. There’s no easy answer to this, but it should start with having a highly trained neurologist on the sidelines.”

Solomon, who also serves as a team physician for the National Hockey League’s Nashville Predators, says another problem is the lack of a uniform system for evaluating brain injuries.

“The methods of evaluating concussions are as varied as the number of trainers and physicians,” Solomon says.

The issue was addressed at the health and player safety conference in Chicago, attended by team doctors and trainers, league-office personnel, NFLPA officials and leading neurologists. From that point forward, the league mandated baseline testing for all players – providing a “before” snapshot of cognitive abilities which could be compared to such tests after an incident – in an effort to ensure that those who sustained concussions were not prematurely cleared to return. (The NHL had instituted such a system a full decade earlier.)

The whistle-blower hotline was also established, though its impact does not seem to have been profound. Fujita said neither he nor any of his Saints teammates had ever heard of the program, and Mayer, the NFLPA’s health director, concedes: “We’ve not seen a lot of traffic there, quite frankly. This is a work in progress.”

For all the positive developments in recent years, it’s clear that more can be done.

“Based on our meeting in May, you have to say the NFL is more interested than they’ve been – but I wouldn’t say they’re appropriately interested,” Nowinski says. “We need more education and open discussion about this, and the NFL and NFLPA control the access to the players, so it’s really on them. The first reason I got involved in this was I thought it wasn’t right that people didn’t have a choice in their own future. It’s like with smoking: Telling people the consequences and giving them the choice is Step One.”

Morey speaks of recent enhancements in diagnostic technology and expresses the hope that they’ll soon be implemented. He also suggests reinstating a short-term injured-reserve list, this time specifically for head-trauma victims, as an incentive for teams to be conservative with players coming off concussions.

“If a player loses consciousness,” Morey says, “he would go on the 15-day IR, and the team could be given a roster exemption so they could sign another player at his position while he’s out.”

None of these potential improvements, of course, will do retired players such as Turley much good. As someone who has been heavily involved with Gridiron Greats, a nonprofit organization that aids needy ex-NFL players, Turley is well aware of the harrowing statistics retired players face: an obscenely high divorce rate; a similarly high likelihood of economic hardship; and the potential surfacing of anxiety, anger-management and other psychological issues.

All of this can be linked, at least on some level, to the aftereffects of concussion. Turley has already been treated for depression and anxiety, and he fears that “I might literally go crazy, like Andre Waters and Justin Strzelczyk did.”

Those were two of the six former NFL players who were diagnosed with CTE after their brains were studied posthumously at Boston University. An abnormal toxic “tau” protein was found in the brain tissue, a sign of brain degeneration similar to that found in Alzheimer’s patients. Waters, a former Eagles defensive back who three years ago committed suicide at age 44, was said to have the brain makeup of an 85-year-old man who was in the early stages of Alzheimer’s disease.

While other physicians have argued that CTE is multifactorial, suggesting that afflicted patients likely have a genetic predisposition for the condition and speculating about a possible link of steroid use, Nowinski says: “From a public-health perspective, that’s absolutely irrelevant. Even if trauma is but one of the factors, it needs to be addressed.”

Though Nowinski’s co-director of the Center for the Study of Traumatic Encephalopathy, Dr. Robert Cantu, has not examined Turley (who says, “I have never taken steroids”), Nowinski is familiar with the former player’s travails and believes there is cause for worry.

“I was concerned about Kyle even before this latest episode he had,” Nowinski says. “The symptoms he’d been having – regular headaches, depression – those two things alone are concerning, having seen that in some of the CTE guys and others who’ve suffered from postconcussion syndrome, as I have.”

In the aftermath of his ER visit in August, Turley felt as though he were recovering from the type of severe concussion he experienced in St. Louis six years ago. Early on, while attempting to close a set of double doors at his home, he had trouble recognizing which one to shut first in order to lock them.

“I had to sit there and test both doors multiple times,” he says, “because I couldn’t remember – even though I had done it unconsciously every night for the last two years.”

Driving, until recently, was a struggle – on more than one occasion Turley had to pull over on the side of the road because of dizziness. In recent days, however, he has become comfortable behind the wheel, and a sense of normalcy has returned. He’s back to playing music (his band, Turley, has a few gigs booked) and enjoying his and Stacy’s five-month-old son, Dean, who, says his proud father, “is gonna be a monster. His hands are as big as my buddy’s 2-year-old daughter’s hands. He’s trying to walk before he can crawl.”

Turley’s greatest fears – that he won’t be able to share in the joy of his son’s upbringing; that Stacy will be left to care for a cerebrally impaired husband – have made him as enraged as he famously was during his playing days. (The NFL once mandated that he take anger-management classes after he ripped the helmet off a New York Jets player during a nationally televised game.)

“This is [expletive],” Turley says. “I’m [expletive] as much as anything. They’re ruining guys’ lives, potentially. I mean, I barely drink, I don’t smoke – I’m a perfectly healthy person without any reason for this to be happening, and look at me. I literally could’ve died after I collapsed, and who knows when it might happen again?

“I’ll probably have to sue the NFL, but the reality is the NFLPA is as much to blame as anyone,” Turley says. “It’s just [expletive] criminal and it’s gonna come to a head.”

If so, that’ll be one helmet-to-helmet collision – a figurative one – that could actually help improve the overall health of current players.
9  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: The First Amendment on: September 17, 2009, 09:52:07 PM
from FOX news 8:

High school officials vs. ACLU

"PACE, Fla. - Two Florida high school administrators accused of leading a prayer after a school luncheon appeared in court Thursday morning. Pace High School Principal Frank Lay and Athletic Director Robert Freeman are accused of criminal contempt.

Reverend Joseph Rogers of Pace Assembly of God knows Lay and Freeman, and he is very familiar with the situation the men are in. He says he and the rest of the Pace community are behind them in their battle against the ACLU.

"They've been here for years and years and years as individuals that have been strong people in our community, and of course, strong influences, men of great character and integrity," said Reverend Joseph Rogers.

Reverend Rogers says Lay and Freeman are very sincere about their Christian beliefs, and those beliefs have helped shape Pace High School into what it is today.

"Because of their integrity and the way they've conducted themselves, Pace High School is a champion school, it's an A+ school," said Reverend Rogers.

Rogers said Lay and Freeman understand the law inspired by the ACLU, which required school officials in Santa Rosa County to stop promoting their personal religious beliefs in public schools.

He says the men had no intentions of violating that law.

"I think that what took place was just part of who they are, with no ill intent and no desire to violate the law. However, with the ACLU and all that that has taken place, it has drawn attention there and I don't think that it was necessary for it to have escalated to this point of a criminal lawsuit," said Reverend Rogers.

Reverend Rogers says it's time that Americans follow Lay and Freeman in standing up for our Constitutional rights.

"In the time we're living in, it's important for people to stand up and speak up concerning their individual constitutional rights. And these men, along with everyone else, have the right to be able to have free speech. If we are going to criminalize prayer, we should start all the way at the top, and that would be a horrible atrocity to the United States Constitution, in my opinion," said Reverend Rogers.

Reverend Rogers says Principal Lay and Athletic Director Freeman are looking forward to their day in court, in hopes that the court will be able to understand their position.

You can help Lay and Freeman pay for their defense funds. If you would like to make a donation, click here . The website is also selling t-shirts, which depict children praying on the front side and the message "Frank-ly against the ACLU" on the back side. So far, $43,000 has been raised between the website and a recent fundraiser."

Incidentally, there were no students present at the time.
10  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / with friends like these.... on: September 12, 2009, 02:59:00 PM

I thought i'd start this thread on what our "allies" undecided have been up to...


" British special forces train Libyan troops
AP

By RAPHAEL G. SATTER, Associated Press Writer Raphael G. Satter, Associated Press Writer – Sat Sep 12, 12:38 pm ET

LONDON – Some of Britain's most elite soldiers have been training Libyan forces in counterterrorism and surveillance for the past six months, a newspaper said Saturday.

The Daily Telegraph said a contingent of between four and 14 men from the Special Air Service, or SAS, were working with Col. Moammar Gadhafi's soldiers in Libya, a country once notorious for its support of terrorism.

The paper cited an unidentified SAS source as saying that the training was seen as part of the deal to release Lockerbie bomber Abdel Baset al-Megrahi, whose return to Libya last month outraged Americans and raised questions over the nature of Britain's relationship with Gadhafi's authoritarian regime.

Britain's military refused to comment on the Telegraph's report. The Foreign Office said Britain had "ongoing cooperation with Libya in the field of defense," but refused to comment on the issue of special forces. It denied in a statement that the defense cooperation had anything to do with al-Megrahi's release.

Prime Minister Gordon Brown and other government officials have emphasized Libya's remarkable transformation from rogue state to Western ally and the need to keep Gadhafi on board since he renounced terrorism and dismantled his country's clandestine nuclear program in 2003.

But media reports have suggested that the prisoner exchange agreement that paved the way for al-Megrahi release was motivated in part by a desire to secure access to Libya's vast energy reserves. British Justice Secretary Jack Straw seemed to endorse that claim when he told the Telegraph last week that trade played "a very big part" in the negotiations over the prisoner deal.

Britain's thirst for Libya's oil and gas resources was again thrust into the spotlight earlier this month when it was reported that Brown had refused to lobby Gadhafi for compensation for the Britons killed and injured by Libyan-supplied plastic explosives used by the Irish Republican Army in the 1980s and '90s.

In a letter written last year to a survivor of one of the IRA bombings, then-junior Foreign Office minister Bill Rammell explained that Libya was now "a vital partner ... in guaranteeing a secure energy future for the U.K."

Britain's secretive SAS is among the world's best respected commando units. It was created during World War II for attacks behind Axis lines, but the group has since turned its attention to fighting terrorists. Among its best-known operations was the 1980 raid on the Iranian Embassy in London, which broke an Iraqi-backed siege. The SAS also played an active role in suppressing IRA rebels — many of whom were supplied with Libyan weapons and explosives.

Robin Horsfall, a former SAS soldier who participated in the Iranian Embassy siege and fought the IRA in Northern Ireland, said giving special forces training to the Libyans was putting lives at risk.

"People will die as a result of this decision," he told Sky News television, explaining that the Libyans "can learn how to defeat what we do."

He added that the military's refusal to talk about the report was telling.

"When they say 'no comment' we can read our own interpretation into that," he told the broadcaster."
11  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread on: August 08, 2009, 11:12:09 PM

From cagewriter (Yahoo.com)

Sat Aug 08, 2009 11:58 pm EDT
Silva mocks, fights and delivers a highlight reel knockout

By Steve Cofield

Anderson Silva is awesome when he wants to be. Even Roy Jones Jr., who was "scouting" Silva the fight had to be proud. Jones used to toy with his opponent - the butcher and deliverymen - he faced throughout the 90's. Silva did the same with the former UFC light heavyweight champ Forrest Griffin. Silva floored Griffin 1:54 into the fight and from there Griffin looked tentative and slow. Silva was so confident he started dropping his hands and mocking the much bigger Griffin. Griffin tried a lunging right-left combination, Silva deftly backed out of the way and knocked down the big guy with a right moving backwards. Griffin fell to his back. He was done as the fight was stopped at the 3:23 mark. The always emotional Griffin ran from the cage back to the lockerrooms.


12  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Movies of interest on: July 24, 2009, 01:26:15 AM
i see it now. thanks 4 the correction, SG. Btw, the trailer is out now.
www.thebookofelimovie.com. denzel INDEED does some Kali!!! afro
13  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Movies of interest on: July 22, 2009, 03:09:38 PM
there was a mention (in this thread?) about denzel washington training some bolo techniques with jeff imada.
well, here's the rest of the story: a movie will come out next year, i believe, called the Book of Eli, starring the
erstwhile washington as a man wandering a post apocalyptic US, some 30yrs after a nuke strike. some cool
zombie vs kali stuff might be on the horizon!
14  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Pets (Who controls whom) on: July 13, 2009, 05:24:24 PM
this sort of confirms my sinking suspicion   cheesy!
Cats Do Control Humans, Study Finds
LiveScience.com

If you've ever wondered who's in control, you or your cat, a new study points to the obvious. It's your cat.

Household cats exercise this control with a certain type of urgent-sounding, high-pitched meow, according to the findings.

This meow is actually a purr mixed with a high-pitched cry. While people usually think of cat purring as a sign of happiness, some cats make this purr-cry sound when they want to be fed. The study showed that humans find these mixed calls annoying and difficult to ignore.

"The embedding of a cry within a call that we normally associate with contentment is quite a subtle means of eliciting a response," said Karen McComb of the University of Sussex. "Solicitation purring is probably more acceptable to humans than overt meowing, which is likely to get cats ejected from the bedroom."

They know us

Previous research has shown similarities between cat cries and human infant cries.

McComb suggests that the purr-cry may subtly take advantage of humans' sensitivity to cries they associate with nurturing offspring. Also, including the cry within the purr could make the sound "less harmonic and thus more difficult to habituate to," she said.

McComb got the idea for the study from her experience with her own cat, who would consistently wake her up in the mornings with a very insistent purr. After speaking with other cat owners, she learned that some of their cats also made the same type of call. As a scientist who studies vocal communication in mammals, she decided to investigate the manipulative meow.

Tough to test

Setting up the experiments wasn't easy. While the felines used purr-cries around their familiar owners, they were not eager to make the same cries in front of strangers. So McComb and her team trained cat owners to record their pets' cries - capturing the sounds made by cats when they were seeking food and when they were not. In all, the team collected recordings from 10 different cats.

The researchers then played the cries back for 50 human participants, not all of whom owned cats. They found that humans, even if they had never had a cat themselves, judged the purrs recorded while cats were actively seeking food - the purrs with an embedded, high-pitched cry - as more urgent and less pleasant than those made in other contexts.

When the team re-synthesised the recorded purrs to remove the embedded cry, leaving all else unchanged, the human subjects' urgency ratings for those calls decreased significantly.

McComb said she thinks this cry occurs at a low level in cats' normal purring, "but we think that cats learn to dramatically exaggerate it when it proves effective in generating a response from humans." In fact, not all cats use this form of purring at all, she said, noting that it seems to most often develop in cats that have a one-on-one relationship with their owners rather than those living in large households, where their purrs might be overlooked.

The results were published in the July 14 issue of the journal Current Biology.
15  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: The First Amendment on: July 10, 2009, 08:26:45 PM

Dispute over flag protest erupts in Wisc. village
AP
   
   
By ROBERT IMRIE, Associated Press Writer Robert Imrie, Associated Press Writer – Fri Jul 10, 2:44 pm ET

WAUSAU, Wis. – An American flag flown upside down as a protest in a northern Wisconsin village was seized by police before a Fourth of July parade and the businessman who flew it — an Iraq war veteran — claims the officers trespassed and stole his property.

A day after the parade, police returned the flag and the man's protest — over a liquor license — continued.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Wisconsin is considering legal action against the village of Crivitz for violating Vito Congine Jr.'s' First Amendment rights, Executive Director Chris Ahmuty said.

"It is not often that you see something this blatant," Ahmuty said.

In mid-June, Congine, 46, began flying the flag upside down — an accepted way to signal distress — outside the restaurant he wants to open in Crivitz, a village of about 1,000 people some 65 miles north of Green Bay.

He said his distress is likely bankruptcy because the village board refused to grant him a liquor license after he spent nearly $200,000 to buy and remodel a downtown building for an Italian supper club.

Congine's upside-down-flag represents distress to him; to others in town, it represents disrespect of the flag.

Hours before a Fourth of July parade, four police officers went to Congine's property and removed the flag under the advice of Marinette County District Attorney Allen Brey.

Neighbor Steven Klein watched in disbelief.

"I said, 'What are you doing?' Klein said. "They said, 'It is none of your business.'"

The next day, police returned the flag.

Brey declined comment Friday.

Marinette County Sheriff Jim Kanikula said it was not illegal to fly the flag upside down but people were upset and it was the Fourth of July.

"It is illegal to cause a disruption," he said.

The parade went on without any problems, Kanikula said.

Village President John Deschane, 60, an Army veteran who served in Vietnam, said many people in town believe it's disrespectful to fly the flag upside down.

"If he wants to protest, let him protest but find a different way to do it," Deschane said.

Congine, a Marine veteran who served in Iraq in 2004, said he intends to keep flying the flag upside down.

"It is pretty bad when I go and fight a tyrannical government somewhere else," Congine said, "and then I come home to find it right here at my front door."
16  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / the most dangerous sport on: June 26, 2009, 11:42:59 PM
From LiveScience.com:

The Most Dangerous Sport: Cheerleading


Cheerleading safety efforts have led to modest reductions in the number of serious injuries in recent years, according to a new report about college and high school sports and cheerleading mishaps.

But cheerleading continues to cause more serious and deadly injuries by far than other sports.

Researchers have long known how dangerous cheerleading is, but records were poorly kept until recently. An update to the record-keeping system last year found that between 1982 and 2007, there were 103 fatal, disabling or serious injuries recorded among female high school athletes, with the vast majority (67) occurring in cheerleading. The next most dangerous sports: gymnastics (nine such injuries) and track (seven).

Today, the National Center for Catastrophic Sports Injury Research at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill released its 26th annual report on the topic. The latest figures are from the 2007-2008 academic year for college and high school sports, male and female. The report defines catastrophic injuries as any severe or fatal injury incurred during participation in the sport.

The new numbers are for the 26-year period from the fall of 1982 through the spring of 2008:

    * There were 1,116 direct catastrophic injuries in high school (905) and college sports (211).
    * High school sports were associated with 152 fatalities, 379 non-fatal injuries and 374 serious injuries. College sports accounted for 22 fatalities, 63 non-fatal injuries and 126 serious injuries.
    * Cheerleading accounted for 65.2 percent of high school and 70.5 percent of college catastrophic injuries among all female sports.

The number of cheerleading injuries fell slightly in the 2007-08 academic year.

"Progress has been slow, but there has been an increased emphasis on cheerleading safety," said the study's author Frederick O. Mueller. "Continued data collection on all types of cheerleading injuries will hopefully show that these safety measures are working to reduce injuries."

17  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Evolutionary biology/psychology on: June 05, 2009, 05:03:17 PM

Boys with 'Warrior Gene' More Likely to Join Gangs

LiveScience.com

Boys who have a so-called "warrior gene" are more likely to join gangs and also more likely to be among the most violent members and to use weapons, a new study finds.

"While gangs typically have been regarded as a sociological phenomenon, our investigation shows that variants of a specific MAOA gene, known as a 'low-activity 3-repeat allele,' play a significant role," said biosocial criminologist Kevin M. Beaver of Florida State University.

In 2006, the controversial warrior gene was implicated in the violence of the indigenous Maori people in New Zealand, a claim that Maori leaders dismissed.

But it's no surprise that genes would be involved in aggression. Aggression is a primal emotion like many others, experts say, and like cooperation, it is part of human nature, something that's passed down genetically. And almost all mammals are aggressive in some way or another, said Craig Kennedy, professor of special education and pediatrics at Vanderbilt University in Tennessee, whose research last year suggested that humans crave violence just like they do sex, food or drugs.

"Previous research has linked low-activity MAOA variants to a wide range of antisocial, even violent, behavior, but our study confirms that these variants can predict gang membership," says Beaver, the Florida State researcher. "Moreover, we found that variants of this gene could distinguish gang members who were markedly more likely to behave violently and use weapons from members who were less likely to do either."

The MAOA gene affects levels of neurotransmitters such as dopamine and serotonin that are related to mood and behavior, and those variants that are related to violence are hereditary, according to a statement from the university.

The new study examined DNA data and lifestyle information drawn from more than 2,500 respondents to the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health. Beaver and colleagues from Florida State, Iowa State and Saint Louis universities will detail their findings in a forthcoming issue of the journal Comprehensive Psychiatry.

A separate study at Brown University from earlier this year found that individuals with the warrior gene display higher levels of aggression in response to provocation.

Over networked computers, 78 test subjects were asked to cause physical pain to an opponent they believed had taken money from them by administering varying amounts of hot sauce. While the results were not dramatic, low-activity MAOA subjects displayed slightly higher levels of aggression overall, the researchers said.

The Brown University results, published in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, support previous research suggesting that MAOA influences aggressive behavior, the scientists said. "

i wonder if this "warrior gene" is now being studied and/or synthesized by some egghead to be applied as  some sort of supersoldier serum
(shades of Capt. America!) grin
18  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: The First Amendment on: May 29, 2009, 12:58:29 PM
from FOXNEWS

Texas Woman Told to Remove 'Offensive' American Flag From Office

Debbie McLucas comes from a patriotic family – her husband and both of her sons served in the U.S. military, and her daughter is currently deployed to Iraq on her second tour of duty as a combat medic.

So when McLucas arrived at work at a Texas hospital last Friday, she was stunned to be told that the Stars and Stripes she had hung in her office in advance of Memorial Day were offensive, and that the flag had been removed.

“I got into work, I was met by my supervisor and told that there had been multiple complaints, that people found the flag very offensive and it had been taken down," McLucas told FOXNews.com.

"I went to the office to retrieve it and found the flag wrapped around the pole, sitting in the corner on the ground. I was speechless."

McLucas, a supervisor at Kindred Hospital in Mansfield, Texas, had displayed the 3-by-5-foot flag in the office she shares with the hospital’s three other supervisors. McLucas said one of her colleagues, a woman who immigrated to the United States from Africa 14 years ago, complained about the flag to upper management, and the hospital decided to take down the flag.

"I was told that as long as my flag offended one person, it would be taken down," McLucas said.

She said the hospital told her that the American flag flying outside the building would have to suffice. "I was told, ‘There is a flag hanging out front, everyone can see that one. Is that not enough?’"

No, she said, that wasn't enough.

"It is more than I can even fathom, that you would find the American flag offensive, in America," McLucas said.

A Kindred Healthcare spokeswoman did not return calls for comment. Kindred issued a press release stating, “Kindred Hospital Mansfield has a great deal of appreciation for the service that many of our employees and their families have given to their country. We honor our veterans and active military through a variety of benefits and service programs. This was an isolated incident between two employees that we are working to resolve amicably.”

The statement went on to explain: “The disagreement was over the size of the flag and not what it symbolized. We have invited the employee to put the flag back up.”

And it will go back up and stay up, McLucas said.

"I do think they're trying to do the right thing. I have no reason to believe the flag won't remain there as long as I'm employed."
19  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: The First Amendment on: May 29, 2009, 12:31:19 PM
From NEWS10 San Diego:

Couple: County Trying To Stop Home Bible Studies
SAN DIEGO -- A local pastor and his wife claim they were interrogated by a San Diego County official, who then threatened them with escalating fines if they continued to hold Bible studies in their home, 10News reported.
Attorney Dean Broyles of The Western Center For Law & Policy was shocked with what happened to the pastor and his wife.

Broyles said, "The county asked, 'Do you have a regular meeting in your home?' She said, 'Yes.' 'Do you say amen?' 'Yes.' 'Do you pray?' 'Yes.' 'Do you say praise the Lord?' 'Yes.'"

The county employee notified the couple that the small Bible study, with an average of 15 people attending, was in violation of County regulations, according to Broyles.

Broyles said a few days later the couple received a written warning that listed "unlawful use of land" and told them to "stop religious assembly or apply for a major use permit" -- a process that could cost tens of thousands of dollars.

"For churches and religious assemblies there's big parking concerns, there's environmental impact concerns when you have hundreds or thousands of people gathering. But this is a different situation, and we believe that the application of the religious assembly principles to this Bible study is certainly misplaced," said Broyles.

News of the case has rapidly spread across Internet blogs and has spurred various reactions.

Broyles said his clients have asked to stay anonymous until they give the county a demand letter that states by enforcing this regulation the county is violating their First Amendment right to freely exercise their religion.

Broyles also said this case has broader implications.

"If the county thinks they can shut down groups of 10 or 15 Christians meeting in a home, what about people who meet regularly at home for poker night? What about people who meet for Tupperware parties? What about people who are meeting to watch baseball games on a regular basis and support the Chargers?" Broyles asked.

Broyles and his clients plan to give the County their demand letter this week.

If the County refuses to release the pastor and his wife from obtaining the permit, they will consider a lawsuit in federal court."

My whole beef about this whole thing is the way the city of San Diego is using intimidation on an otherwise innocent gathering. I don't like the idea of
the city or govt. being able to potentially curtail our rapidly diminishing right of lawful assembly by misapplying their powers like this. Have you had any interface
with your city concerning something similar like this? I know SOG met at PG Ed's backyard and from what i gather, the group had more than ten members. This
is, perhaps, more troubling to me because it was a bible study in a PRIVATE home, not in a park or street.
What ever happened to freedom of religion? In their mind it probably should read "freedom FROM religion.
20  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread on: May 23, 2009, 11:57:40 PM
Did lyoto machida usher in a new paradigm shift in MMA with his win over
Rashad Evans? His  effective use of shotokan (his family style) seemed to have opened up
some new and exciting possibilities beyond the BJJ/Muay thai Template.
21  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: tennis elbows in kali on: May 17, 2009, 04:19:25 PM
awesome, guys! thanks for the posts!
any tips on doing abanikos (proper angle of the wrist et al)?
22  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / tennis elbows in kali on: May 16, 2009, 10:51:53 PM
woof all

as you all know, swinging the stick (of various length and gauges) tends to give the
arms some wear and tear through out the years. one of those nagging aches are the
dreaded tennis elbows cry. any strenghtening/conditioning exercises you guys might want to
share would be great and a worthwhile topic imho. perhaps how to prevent this mishap from happening
in the first place would also be information widely appreciated, i'm sure smiley. i've seen some
exercises pertaining to this on some tennis sites. but the strokes in tennis doesn't exactly match
the strikes in kali, so i'm not sure if the exercises shown in these sites would cover most of
the issues involve in kali (abaniko, witik, V-de Kadena-V and so forth). it would be a boon to
have info directly from practitioners.

thanks

matinik
23  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread on: May 14, 2009, 11:38:29 PM
nice posts, stickgrappler! enjoyed the clips! i agree with you about some of the sweeps
having that silat/kali flava! lyoto's setup of the "sapus" are very interesting. all the more
interesting is the fact that he does it on the fly! afro and get this: rashad, from an interview
i saw is familiar (to what extent, i'm not sure) with 52 blocks (AKA jailhouse rock), a style that
has some very nice kali/silat flava, specially with the 'bows and such.
Machida vs. Evans: Interesting Indeed!
24  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: The Art in its Homeland on: May 04, 2009, 12:14:45 AM
what a devastating knockout! shocked manny is really on top of his game right now.
hope ricky's ok. he was a great champ and went out like a champ.
25  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Citizens defend themselves/others. on: April 30, 2009, 11:57:00 AM

for those who thought  marching band was nerdy in high school.....
 
From AP news

Thu Apr 30, 7:41 am ET

QUARTZ HILL, Calif. – Don't mess with a marching band girl, especially one armed with a baton. A 17-year-old high school marching band student beat up two assailants who tried to mug her as she walked to school in this high desert community about 40 miles north of Los Angeles, sheriff's officials said Tuesday.

The girl punched one of the men in the nose, kicked the other in the groin and beat both with her large baton before she ran away on Friday morning, officials said.

"The moral to this story is don't mess with the marching band girls, or you just might get what you deserve," said Los Angeles County sheriff's Deputy Michael Rust.

He said two men approached the girl from behind, grabbed her coat and demanded money. Deputies searched near Quartz Hill High School for the muggers, looking for a man who was holding his bloodied nose and the other limping.

No arrests have been made, but Rust said it appears the girl made her point to her assailants.

"Final score: Marching band 2, thugs 0," Rust quipped.  afro  cool
26  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread on: April 29, 2009, 11:38:37 PM
anderson silva always puts on a terrific show, so i suppose that's why most
people are upset about his supposed "lackluster" showing with thiago. BTW,
silva's buddy, lyto (sp?) machida is doing pretty dang good. nice to see a different
template (shotokan) used effectively in MMA, although machida's style got
a lot of flack early on, with audiences not used to seeing a more "traditional"
flavor from a fighter. his fight with rashad evans should be a good match up.
27  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Piracy on: April 12, 2009, 09:41:38 PM
awesome work by all!  afro  grin  cool
I'm so glad the white house didn't micro manage this to death and gave the
people on the boat autonomy to git this done! although that somali they
took prisoner (accounts say he might get life) seems to have gotten the
better deal of this whole scene. Imagine, his life in somalia vs. his life in a US jail (free tv/cable,
free food, new clothes... oy vey undecided
28  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Study: Gun and grenade fight on: January 18, 2009, 08:47:34 PM
i had to see this clip a few times to really grasp what had just
happened!
BADA$$ afro!!!!
this guy must have titanium huevos to pull this off!
Like something out of an old arhnold movie (commando comes to mind) cheesy
seriously though, the mental training it took to do this must be out
of this world cool.
29  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Movie Fights on: January 16, 2009, 06:35:01 PM
a bit of a sidebar here: variety just reported that spielberg is remaking Oldboy with will smith
in the lead shocked!
can't they leave well enough alone? they are about to ruin one of the coolest movies
that ever came out ANYWHERE. guess hollywood IS out of original ideas. accept no
subtitute, see the original!

matinik
30  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Boxing Thread on: December 07, 2008, 01:02:51 AM
manny won by tko! oscar threw in the towel on the eight!
31  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Boxing Thread on: November 27, 2008, 11:50:35 PM
checked out HBO's 24/7 de la hoya/pacquiao fight promo recently and in one episode entitled "stick training", it had
manny being lightly tapped quickly all over the  abs and arms with a yantok (looks like  hardwood), with
manny saying "it's mental training". it looks similar to some chinese system hard chi gong regimen.
hope he's using some dit da jow afterwards grin.
the fight it self should be interesting too. i enjoyed seeing oscar in his heyday, but manny might be
too fast and too young for him now. any thoughts?

matinik
32  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Movies of interest on: August 18, 2008, 11:39:26 PM
greetings

ong bak 2 is coming out on dvd this year and it looks like another winner from the great tony jaa.
this movie is not related to the first in any way other than the name. it looks like a period piece, with
lots of cool krabi krabong action. and get this: there seem to be a group of warriors from different
parts of southeast asia that some how becomes tony jaa's character's mentors in the movie, one of
which is a SILAT man afro and the clip shows him using a pair of kerambit. that alone is
worth checking out on you tube. this is a must SEE!
matinik
33  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Possible Spanish influence on FMA re-revisited... on: December 23, 2006, 11:43:40 PM
holiday greetings all

great post, everyone. there is a biblical adage that states "iron sharpens iron" and there's nothing like a well thought out
discussion such as this to do as such. afro

i would like to throw in something that comes in line to what tuhon raf has alluded to a post or so back and that is it's
not really logical for the spanish to teach a "conquered" people a "more efficient" way of sword fighting. that has always
been the big question that people who believe that old chestnut that FMA is nothing more that european skills warmed over,
has been unable, imho, to address. i believe tuhon raf eloquently stated that in his post.
we could see an analogy of this in recent history. the US has done something like this in vietnam, and up to iraq. they train the locals military tactics, supply them with weapons et. al , BUT, we don't see the US giving the iraquis advance technology/tactics ( at least i hope not wink). why? for the same reason the spanish wouldn't: they could be used AGAINST the US if they did.

perhaps the "spanish influence" happened in the course of fighting itself. the ninunos adjusted to the particulars of this foreign fighting style, perhaps even adapted what was useful, rejected what was useless, and added specifically their own grin. sorry , couldn't resist,  but i believe that point needs to be addressed. adaptation could be mistaken by some as imitation. so in that sense,
the spanish " influenced" FMA, but not the way some would lead people to believe. the ninunos were pragmatic. if they saw something that works and fits their martial view, they used it. this is a hallmark of FMA as evidenced by the strong clans of sayoc, dog brothers, inosanto, illustrisimo and many, many others.
but to say the spanish were the originators of the art to the WHOLE island archipelago sort of stretches it. what were the
indigenous people using before th spanish came?  they were not in any way THE tap root of the arts, as some has mistakenly asserted. i would also like to mention that as a pinoy, there is this unhealthy thinking that still lingers in some segment of the pinoy community that some how if it's from another country, it's better than anything homegrown. some writers call this "colonial mentality". as if it's unthinkable that the ninunos can come up with some thing so sophisticated and so effective! they have this elitist air to them that they have a deragotory term for something that they call anything local : bakya. i tend to think most revisionist writers  have a sort of myopia when it come to this subject.

matiinik
34  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Movies of interest on: October 23, 2006, 09:45:12 PM
yup, the man got skills. i sure hope he doesn't do a bone head jackie chan move and try to cross over to hollywood. every time that happens, they either emasculate what makes the guy cool or water him down to a shadow of himself (shades of around the world in 80 days shocked)) am i the only one bugged about this trend? angry

btw, there's a movie coming out called pathfinder. the story is about this viking kid that got stranded in ancient america, learned to go native, then has to fight off a viking horde that comes back to claim the land (if memory serves). interesting premise. have to wait and see how they handle the swordplay on this.

also take a gander at zatoichi the original series, out on dvd. some really fly? afro old school samurai action. funny as all git out.

ps.?  pls. check out my blog, all. i'm attempting to launch a comic book about a kali/silat character. it's at blogger.com
do a search for wavmostudio. that's my space.

matinik
35  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Movies of interest on: October 20, 2006, 12:03:15 AM
woof y'all

speaking of which, what do you guys think of ong bak with tony jaa. i thought they did a great job presenting krabi krabong
and muay thai. tony jaa had the skills that i haven't seen on sceen in a while. granted, he took some liberties
doing the techniques, but alll in all, it was kind of refreshing to see wire free action for a change.

i really dug the final fights in the cave. they must've played with every thing but the kitchen sink afro!

where oh where can we see some GOOD movie FMA action.? cry (beside the HUNTED or Borne identity/supremacy)


matinik
36  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / kali in the media 2 on: August 19, 2003, 02:07:00 PM
here's something interesting: a movie coming out next year called the punisher will feature a character that is supposedly trained in kali, bjj, et al (jkd?). the character is really cool looking and the movie has a big budget, so i'm hoping they could afford a top quality kali/jkd consultant. it's based on a marvel comic, so i'm not expecting "realism" as such. but it should be cool none the less.

matinik
37  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / My Mother Passed Away 8/4/03 on: August 12, 2003, 02:23:42 PM
my sincere condolences on your lost, david. may the healing begin.

your brother in martial arts

matinik
38  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / kali in the media 2 on: July 15, 2003, 02:47:49 PM
cool stuff!!
the travel channel had some unexpected kali/silat recently. they were profiling some tribe in sarawak (?) and about how they were changing. they use to be head hunters, but for the life of me, i can't recall the tribe's name at the moment. anyway, they had some elders doing some kembangan with live blades Cool .

matinik
39  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Benefits struggle for Filipino Vets on: July 08, 2003, 03:11:29 PM
cool book! incidently, pbs had a feature on said book. the program is "the american experience". had  film clips from the actual event, interviews with the pow's (both american /pinoys) and surviving rangers.
great to see some credit going to the manongs of the era! Cool

matinik
40  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / political rant on: June 12, 2003, 02:31:34 PM
cool article. ann as usual, articulated the issue well.
 one book that underline the clinton's misuse of public trust is  "derilection of duty". the authors name escapes me at the moment but it is by a former "football" holder who listed all the things bubba did when in office, one of which is actually losing the nuclear codes shocked  shocked ! think of it: lost code: no way to authorize counter strike. for a period of time the united states nuclear might was effectively neutralised. by it's own president. scary stuff. now hillary is sending out feelers for a posible run shocked ?

god help us all

matinik
41  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / kali in the media 2 on: May 08, 2003, 03:20:28 PM
woof all

nice new interface Cool ! there was a segment on the stabbing incident on a news show "balita america" seen on the international channel recently. it was a cool bit. they interviewed a cop who trained in serrada and he spoke about the defensive nature of the art and how it helped save his life on the job. they also interviewed a professor of far east studies, if memory serves, and he also put the training in context.and all the while showing serrada eskrima people training. they also showed the current head, gm vincent cabales as well. a bit of fresh air from the usual shrill sensationalism the media is apt to take on things of this nature.


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