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101  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / interesting take on the climatologists government money grab on: December 01, 2017, 03:31:40 PM
https://pjmedia.com/trending/scientists-self-censor-climate-change-language-protect-funding/
102  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Andrew McCarthy on: December 01, 2017, 02:53:37 PM
To help me sort out all the lib hysteria:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/454269/michael-flynn-plea-no-breakthrough-russia-investigation

I am going to have to not watch the news for 6 months.  All the news is going to be tough to put up with.
no respite after 8 yrs obama
103  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / What a coincidence on: December 01, 2017, 02:43:43 PM
Gee .......

Flynn leak on same day as tax bill vote..........

no coordination there, eh Mueller?



104  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Corker does make good point in Vanity Fair article on: December 01, 2017, 09:30:28 AM
odd that Corker is now , trying to amend the tax reductions when not long ago he was making a "rational" point about the phony yearly budget process that does NOTHING  to 70% of the mandatory SPENDING (side of the equation we have in place:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/10/bob-corker-budget-hoax

105  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Jim Nabors on: November 30, 2017, 09:35:15 PM
Gomer Pyle USMC was one of my favorite TV shows as a kid.  He was a character player in his TV shows but he had real dramatic talent too in one movie I saw him in but it eludes me now.

One of the hardest belly laughs I ever had was watching that the episode where in a wrecking ball crashed and demolish Sargeant Carter's car while it was under Gomer's care:

A lifetime later I still remember that:

https://www.newsmax.com/thewire/jim-nabors-dies-fans-friends/2017/11/30/id/829139/
106  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Tom Delay on: November 30, 2017, 09:29:00 PM
On Tillerson and some other thoughts

obviously he is not on inside anymore and was railroaded by the LEFT with false accusations ( because he very much like Trump was a real warrior )  but I like to get his take on these things:

https://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/rex-tillerson-deep-state-secretary-of-state-palace-intrigue/2017/11/30/id/829149/
107  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Pelosi now taking the *HIGH ROAD* on: November 30, 2017, 01:57:25 PM
as if morality or "high road " was EVER at the forefront of any of her decisions:

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/11/30/pelosi-calls-conyers-resign/

Doug wrote

"They turned on Conyers (black) but not Franken (white).  I wonder what the media and opponents would say if Republicans did that."

You sound like Clyburn  who is crazy enough to make that case.

Doug,  double or nothing:

I bet Franken is forced out.  Forget the ethics committee which we now is a joke anyway. 

#1  As you pointed out the Dems are giving up nothing if Franken leaves.  The Dem gov will appoint another .  May well be Ellison.

#2  They will have no dillemna therefore to sacrifice him to the get the big fish , kahuna , or think this will all result in a check mate.  They will get this moral high ground scam going to the hilt make the legal case and then if they take over the legislative branch there WILL be impeachment proceedings .  At the very least they will in unison be screaming on every air wave , internet portal , from every campus and cable, and Hollywood what a disgrace Trump is and scorch the EArth with this.

Some of the Repubs like Crafty points out will be weenies and agree with the them thinking they are taking some phony moral high ground.

Care to bet me my friend? 

108  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / For many on the LEFT these sex stories are the biggest on: November 30, 2017, 10:51:33 AM
" which was the biggest story in 'professional journalism', North Korea now able to reach Washington DC with nuclear warhead missiles or Matt Lauer out? "

For many on the LEFT it is by far the Lauer story.  Why, because is all a set up to get  Trump.  They are establishing platforms to launch an all assault on Trump.  They know they can't make the case till they make argument that we should not tolerate any of this "behavior".

From Wikipedia on Gloria Allred :

*Allred is representing at least 28 women who accuse Bill Cosby of sexual assault, sexual harassment, and/or other sexual misconduct.[60] She is also representing three women who accuse Donald Trump of sexual misconduct — claims which Trump has denied, and which first arose during Trump's 2016 presidential campaign.[61]*

read the paragraph about Gloria Allred , http://deadline.com/2017/11/2018-sundance-film-festival-lineup-jane-fonda-idris-elba-competition-movies-list-1202216273/

Recent Democrat explaining the Party needs to take the moral high ground.  Really ?  rolleyes  Why now? :

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/362471-democrat-pelosi-ceded-the-moral-high-ground-on-sexual-harassment
109  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Spart Report sheds new light on Rex Tillerson at State on: November 29, 2017, 10:23:23 PM
Claims he is cleaning house:   

https://www.spartareport.com/2017/11/secretary-tillerson-is-to-democrat-state-department-careers-like-fire-is-to-wood/
110  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / I can do just fine without football on: November 29, 2017, 06:40:28 PM
As is Rush , I am done with football.  never cared for college ball but now pro ball is out of my life:

http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2017/11/29/nfl-to-contribute-100-million-to-social-justice-causes-as-part-of-anthem-protest-surrender/
111  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Hatch Act applies to Kelly Ann Conway? on: November 29, 2017, 04:12:13 PM
She is senior counselor to the President - so she cannot say something good or bad about a candidate running for a Senate seat?  This can't be serious? 

http://thehill.com/homenews/news/362300-us-special-counsel-opening-up-case-file-over-accusation-that-conway-broke-the
112  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: North and South Korea on: November 29, 2017, 11:30:38 AM
"But North Korea’s missiles are mobile, so it could fire off at least one or two before we were able to take them out. This means full-on war is virtually guaranteed to bring a North Korean nuclear strike against a major American city. (This assumes North Korea can mount a warhead on a missile, but we have little reason to doubt that they can.)"

This also neglects to say that we have no idea ( and I doubt) they have the guidance technology to explode over Manhattan.
 
So they are shooting missles due East .....   to blow up over the Ocean.  Hitting the Pacific Ocean is no great guidance feat.

And what logic.  If their getting nucs is really no biggie - that is unless some grave miscalculation - then what the hell we worrying about this for the past 25 yrs (while doing nothing but talk)

And so what if Iran gets nucs - they are rational - they do not want unilaterally assured destruction - so what.

Logical rationalizing away a gigantic threat does not make it go away

Magical thinking  - like all Democrats.



113  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Conyers - no icon on: November 29, 2017, 07:53:13 AM
https://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/john-conyers-furthest-thing-icon/

yeah right; he is about as much as an icon as John McCain.
114  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Every one has the right to free speech on: November 29, 2017, 07:18:47 AM
Just ask this confirmed liar, Mike Hayden...  everyone can say what ever they want - EXCEPT Trump - he should NOT be allowed to speak his mind:

https://pjmedia.com/trending/former-nsa-chief-michael-hayden-steps-attack-trump/

This guy spent 40 yrs for what?Huh  to go to a propaganda outlet like CNN whose mission is to destroy a duly elected President.

 angry
115  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Consumer Financial Protection Bureau - Judge sides with DJT on: November 28, 2017, 06:36:11 PM
http://thehill.com/policy/finance/362107-court-sides-with-trump-in-consumer-agency-fight
116  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / CNN 's purported mission on: November 28, 2017, 05:52:58 PM
https://cnnsoc185.wordpress.com/vision-statement/

Anytime Trump stands up to them they scream and holler who he is attacking their first amendment right.  No he is not.  He is not sending in tanks into to Atlanta to shut them down or brown shirts to tear up their presses etc.

Trump has a right to call them on their real mission : to destroy him in any way they can. 

(while promoting leftist dogma)

117  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: social justice wars , SJW warriors, gender warriors , victimhood on: November 27, 2017, 07:13:14 PM
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/11/27/dem-rep-rice-franken-and-conyers-should-resign-pelosi-and-trump-have-circled-the-wagons/

Duh, I wonder there this is ultimately leading to !
118  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / bank interest rates on: November 26, 2017, 01:09:47 PM
https://nypost.com/2017/11/26/will-the-bank-stop-stiffing-me-on-my-savings-account-rate/

I remember when they paid 5% no matter how little you had in the bank

I watched my hundred dollars go up to 105 in the mid 60s.
checks were free.
119  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Chinese military base on: November 26, 2017, 11:49:41 AM
In Djibuti :

https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-displays-global-expansion-military-115118157.html

to protect their interests in Africa and of course, for peace keeping

 shocked shocked shocked
120  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of the left on: November 24, 2017, 06:24:51 PM
amazing how liberal lawyers will spend all day telling us why Bill or Hill are not guilty of laws but spend all day telling us why Trump is:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-mueller-primary-target-flynn-151719935.html
121  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The US Congress; Congressional races on: November 22, 2017, 05:53:03 PM
Claire McCaskill, Democrat Senator up for reelection in Missouri, is giving her Franken PAC money to charity:
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/360715-mccaskill-to-donate-30k-received-from-frankens-pac-to-charity-report

amazingly my nephew is going to run Hawley's campaign:  [ against McCaskill who is unpopular]

https://joshhawley.com/

He was beating her in a recent  poll though I don't know if that means anything at this point.  Wait till the full force of the Democrat mob bosses start to pay attention.
122  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Economics on: November 22, 2017, 05:35:27 PM
   
"War on Poverty was a Catastrophe"

The LEFT can fix this easily by confiscating more from those who produce .  They curse the rich but at the same time they would have zero power without them.
123  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: November 21, 2017, 11:07:45 AM
"Note that in both cases, Moore and Trump, the bad stuff was timed to come out after all the choices for other candidates were removed.  They weren't trying to expose filth, the were trying to steal an election. "


excellent point!   

and that observation supports the notion that this was all "LEFT wing conspiracy" .  and not, as many merry trumpsters, are wont to believe  McConnell or other "establisment " Repub playing dirty tricks.
124  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: November 20, 2017, 06:39:56 PM
Doug ,

while it is shameful, if true, that this 55 ish year old guy at the time was dallying around with girls maybe younger then his own daughter (or Web Hubbell's)

these girls must not have been angels .   What were these girls doing hanging out with a billionaire etc?

Some of these accusations we are seeing sound more like extortion scams then "assaults" to  me lately .

Some of these teenage girls know FULL WELL WHAT they are doing  ( although they may have been manipulated but still....)

yeah yeah yeah - he got me drunk - and I woke in bed with him lying next to me naked and I had no clue - this is sounds rotten to me.  (unless date rape ala Bill Cosby who played the fatherly gynecologist - like the father on the Donna Reed show)

These women are treating this like a lotto - some of them anyway.  Some certainly do sound legitamit I do not dispute at all.

125  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Environmental issues on: November 20, 2017, 06:16:12 PM
magma melting Greenland glacier ice

Wow - isn't this the same new theory as in Antarctica ?

kind of blows the whole *man made* climate change theory back down the throats of the libs doesn't it.

don't expect the very lucrative man made climate change industrial complex to admit this any time soon.

What say you EXXON?  time to buy ?   wink
126  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The US Congress; Congressional races on: November 20, 2017, 09:59:20 AM
"  I am for watching the Democrats squirm in their hypocrisy.  "

Absolutely

Bill was one of the worst Presidents - not above average.  He diminished the dignity of the office (nd the Dems helped him along). 
Now only since they want to "get " Trump are they feeling remorse. 

To see articles in the NYSlimes that state that his party  should have forced Bill to resign NOW is so pathetic.

They have NO shame.  None of them .

127  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / panic - blue states just might out of other people's money on: November 19, 2017, 03:56:02 PM
The thinking form the left  moved over from another thread:



how the LEFT thinks they  are entitled to confiscate money and hand out to others of their choosing rather then lifting all boats:

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/salt-local-tax-deduction-blue-states-cities/2017/11/19/id/827019/

Margaret Thatcher is smiling in heaven about now:

watching the Left panic fearing they will run out of OTHER people's money.
128  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Andrea Peyser on: November 18, 2017, 02:47:07 PM
https://nypost.com/2017/11/17/metoo-has-lumped-trivial-in-with-legitimate-sexual-assault/
129  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The US Congress; Congressional races on: November 18, 2017, 02:24:03 PM
Doug ,

I agree with you but you post :

"But what is the humor in that and how is it different than Trump talking on the tape.  Trump 'joked' that he could grab and they would like it."

We are sitting on the proverbial major LEFt coordinated assault on Trump with this.  I would be more then shocked if we do not see every single women who will claim Trump did this to them or that to them (true and not) being paraded out with international press cameras broadcasting and camera bulbs flashing through out the solar system all sorts of stories .

You see how assassins like Allred have the whole thing planned to come out like a 200 pound bomb blast .  Maybe even lawsuits .  That has to be where this is going.
130  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / McCarthy going down dangerous path on: November 18, 2017, 12:32:48 PM
he makes a legal case for getting rid of Franken but then says doing the same to Trump is more problematic because he is the President and not one of 100 Senators


my take since you all asked
The photo of Franken does not show him touching the broad who by the nature of being a playboy bunny goes to titillate the troops with her "wares" or booty if you will like many have done before .  The kiss was certainly beyond the line.  The photo crude and stupid but I don't think by itself means someone should  resign his profession over. 

We will be hearing the broads making the claims being trotted out by Allred or some similar press conference soon.  Any day now.  So now what ? we say that that is different and argue that back and forth now? 

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/453874/al-franken-should-be-expelled-senate
131  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Articulating our cause/strategy against Islamic Fascism on: November 18, 2017, 11:35:27 AM
well I am not sure the West exactly "let" communism rise

what were we supposed to do ?  go to war with the Soviets right after we went through what we did with Nazis
though Roosevelt did let Stalin get Eastern Europe too easily - in hindsight

we did fight in Korea and Vietnam
and have a cold war
and fought communism at home despite the Hollywood and liberal commies here
132  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Coulter: near lights out for the GOP on: November 17, 2017, 08:51:47 PM
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2017-11-15.html
133  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / manspreading on: November 17, 2017, 01:35:32 PM
Did anyone else have to look up this term "manspreading"

 Go to wikipedia and there one can find "she bagging"

What kind of garbage is this?

Why can't it be what it is :

a person selfishly hogging two seats?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manspreading

What the heck does "man" or "she " got to do with it?

Is this also taught at college?
134  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Falls right into the trap on: November 17, 2017, 06:11:09 AM
Give me a break Donald.  Waiting for twin assassins family of  Bloom/Allred to parade some women who will make claims against Trump:

https://nypost.com/2017/11/16/trump-blasts-al-frankenstien-on-twitter-over-alleged-groping/



I cannot think of a better example of the pot calling the kettle black.
I wonder if DJT does this just to infuriate libs even more.................  undecided
135  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The US Congress; Congressional races on: November 16, 2017, 07:56:20 PM
sea has not parted

the "victim " accepts apology and if "McConnell wants this to go to the ethics committee "this is on THEM"  (meaning the evil Repubs)

Game over.

I am sure this woman is a Democrat.   Probably adored and for all I know  slept with Hugh Hefner. Yes I said it.


*******She told reporters in a later press conference that she considered the kiss an assault but accepted his apology.

“The apology? Sure, I accept it," she said. "People make mistakes and of course he knew he made a mistake."*****

Doug,
Sorry , you and me and all of us will have to suffer with more Franken/  this guy would never go away

136  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The US Congress; Congressional races on: November 16, 2017, 04:57:23 PM
Doug and Crafty ,

If you look carefully Franken's fingers do not appear to actually touch the world renowned broadcaster who was on a journalistic quest to interview troops

Where is Lannie Davis on every network station pointing this out.  

He could defend Franken.  She was not touched and he did not disturb her sleep.

And the photo was just a gag for stressed out troops!   wink

PS  Doug
thanks for pointing out that if a miracle occurs and the sea parts and we could actually get rid of this creep Frankin


The Dem gov would just appoint another one .  This is why we are seeing this .  The Dem party is safe:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/11/16/celebs-call-al-franken-resign-groping-allegations/

Never do Dems criticize one of their own unless it won't hurt the !Party!  (true communists)    This all about getting Trump
137  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / reports not entirely accurate on: November 16, 2017, 04:29:13 PM
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/660006/black-death-plague-madagascar-get-worse-antibiotics

IN this article that keeps posting on Drudge it calls plague a virus

It is not .  It is a bacteria

From what I have read it is not resistant to the standard antibiotics - at least yet

In pre antibiotic history most died since there were no antibiotics but now less would live if treated early or prophylactically

That said it is extremely contagious especially in the lung for of disease

and could kill untold numbers of people due to the rapidity of spread

And of course resistance could develop at any time

138  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / The drunken guy likely making a big mistake on: November 16, 2017, 10:00:10 AM
Notice the victim's left handed block near end of video.  Looks like he has martial arts training.  Like the movies.  Some jerk pushes the hero beyond the limit of patience and finally the hero HAS to fight back in self defense of himself or some one else being bullied by a bigot.   The only difference is we don't get to see the end of the movie where the hero kicks some butt and lays out the jerk:

https://nypost.com/video/bigot-attacks-asian-passenger-on-train-while-horrified-commuters-watch/
139  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / some millinneals *think* they want Communism on: November 16, 2017, 09:49:52 AM
until it might be too late:

https://pjmedia.com/trending/hey-millennials-communism-sucks-lived/
140  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / My thoughts on '20 and Trump on: November 16, 2017, 09:35:07 AM
Biden would beat Trump today

Trump has not been able to attract anyone beyond the core 40% ish.

The media DNC Obama/ex Clinton mob academic complex is winning.

Someone sent Rush and email suggesting that maybe Trump is "not the guy".  Rush went on break before he was going to respond to it and I had to go to work so I did not hear his thoughts on the topic.

Trump is clearly the guy who has the courage and stamina to fight the libs.....   but alas he is NOT the guy IMHO who can go up against the "establishment".  His qualities are only part of the package needed.   Sadly, beyond him we have no one else. 

Isn't it obvious by now?  Don't we all know this?

Not looking good for '18 or '20 at this juncture and the tax package not likely to turn this around in my opinion.

Mike Savage is right - bottom line - we are a left of center country now.
141  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / There in the US on: November 15, 2017, 08:23:21 PM
Where is Brock to call them JV team?

we may need to go after these thugs like we are going after ISIS

http://www.chron.com/news/us-world/border-mexico/article/New-report-shows-how-Mexican-cartels-are-12320888.php
142  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / movie out 4/18 on: November 15, 2017, 07:31:02 PM
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/chappaquiddick/
143  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / movie out 4/18 on: November 15, 2017, 07:30:26 PM
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/chappaquiddick/
144  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: US-China (& Japan, South China Sea-- Vietnam, Philippines, etc) on: November 15, 2017, 10:38:24 AM
Doug posted:

"Thus far, I see no indication of the blatant disrespect and contempt shown to Obama repeated with Trump."

WHAAAAAAAT?!

Doug, did Susan Rice ACTUALLY SAY THIS?    angry
145  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / many of these have one or two "accusers" on: November 15, 2017, 10:32:21 AM
When does this become slander?

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/sexual-misconduct-hollywood-summed-one-shocking-infographic-220323215.html
146  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: November 15, 2017, 09:45:13 AM
"Seth Rich"

the man who out of no where was shot in the back during a robbery attempt
and then NOT robbed

almost zero mention about it by the "drive by's"
147  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Shep Smith on: November 15, 2017, 08:00:20 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/11/15/fox-news-shepherd-smith-debunks-his-networks-hillary-clinton-scandal-story-infuriates-viewers/?utm_term=.e4331e46126d

yeah right Shep .  And Reagan caused the spread of aids

your agenda is obvious and wrong.
148  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of the left on: November 15, 2017, 07:25:31 AM
"Now, there’s really nowhere left to go"

maybe Greenland , Antartica ,  or Pitcairn Island

Lenin got what he wanted though not  the exact model he was thinking - A world wide socialist revolution.
149  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / I have a question on: November 14, 2017, 10:51:24 AM
A 59 yo small frame guy who claims permanent disability from an MVA induced neck injury is able to tackle another adult smashing a quarter of his ribcage ?

Maybe the insurance (almost certainly private ) paying his monthly payments should investigate his disability claim again:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5078805/Rene-Boucher-assaulted-Rand-Paul-devaluing-home.html
150  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Republicans no longer looking out for us ; just their power on: November 14, 2017, 10:21:26 AM
"   The Great Progressive Tax Escape  "
I doubt the liberal leaving blue states are turning conservative.  They are bringing their lib dogma with them to red states turning them blue .

" Republican Gov. Chris Christie blocked his Democratic legislature’s attempts to reimpose a millionaire’s tax that lapsed in 2009. But Democratic Governor-elect won the election this month by promising to soak the rich even more, and his legislature will oblige.  "

like i pointed out before Christie's achievement was to hold the line on taxes.  Bow that he is gone working class (except government employees) will be strangled for cash to pay pensions of those that were supposed to work for them.   And since many in NJ pay nothing anyway that share of the electorate will cheer or not care.

Levin on tax shell game:
agreed great for some business on our (my ) backs :

https://soundcloud.com/conservativereview/levin-gop-dunderheads-have-screwed-up-tax-reform
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