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151  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: US-China (& Japan, South China Sea-- Vietnam, Philippines, etc) on: October 27, 2017, 10:14:52 PM
 We can have some goals maybe:

reduce the debt
keep taxes low
protect our sovereignty
stay #1
more freedom from the central planners

152  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Free Beacon's statement on: October 27, 2017, 09:05:47 PM
 on the public disclosure of their involvement with Fusion GPS:

http://freebeacon.com/uncategorized/fusion-gps-washington-free-beacon/

There denial of any affiliation with the Steel dossier seems plausible since did it sounds like Fusion GPS went to the DNC or/and Clintons when Free Beacon stopped paying them .

153  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Paddock and the Vegas Mass Kill on: October 27, 2017, 09:38:03 AM
"Is The NFL Ready For A Stadium Attack On A Las Vegas Scale?"

What is to stop armed drones from flying overhead and delivering 'lead gifts' to the fans?

154  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / China vs US long range plans on: October 26, 2017, 09:48:33 AM
China has long range plan laid out by Xi.  We have none really except for some blurbs like carbon energy independence,

or from private sector such as from astronomers, like Bezos ,  Musk , and the Virgin guy what is his name?

or FB guy who sees the work using his network for every human to human interaction from birth to after death and the like.

But no real long term plan for our nation. 

   
5 take aways from China's 30 yr plan
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/18/xi-jinping-speech-five-things-you-need-to-know

By contrast what are our 30 yr goals? 

I don't know of any unified vision for this?

I don't recall any from any politician.  We think in 2, 4 yr  cycles.

You carbon energy free by 2050 etc yada yada .......

By then the debt could be 30 trillion and we have 65% not working .

We could have a goal of turning us into a Spanish speaking country by 2050.

Atheism by 2050 the majority?

More females in the military then in law school?

The nation according to big tech far more then even now?

We are like a huge ship just drifting at sea................
155  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / 5 take aways from China's 30 yr plan on: October 26, 2017, 09:47:16 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/18/xi-jinping-speech-five-things-you-need-to-know

By contrast what are our 30 yr goals? 

I don't know of any unified vision for this?

I don't recall any from any politician.  We think in 2, 4 yr  cycles.

You carbon energy free by 2050 etc yada yada .......

By then the debt could be 30 trillion and we have 65% not working .

We could have a goal of turning us into a Spanish speaking country by 2050.

Atheism by 2050 the majority?

More females in the military then in law school?

The nation according to big tech far more then even now?

We are like a huge ship just drifting at sea................





156  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / speaking of Fatal Attraction on: October 26, 2017, 09:20:23 AM
Rick,

Prior to " Fatal Attraction" was a movie called "Play Misty for Me"  (1971) starring Clint Eastwood.

The theme from Fatal Attraction was clearly taken from this earlier movie right down to the psychotic knife attack at the end.  Perhaps you have seen it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Play_Misty_for_Me
157  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Mysterious Republican on: October 25, 2017, 06:18:45 PM
FWIW his "net worth" on internet is 5 million .  Probably not enough (if accurate to any degree)  if was to fund this on his own.

What I find odd is the "Republican" is mysteriously unnamed. It must be a much bigger fish .  Romney?  even more likely Koch brothers - they got the cash and probably the snooping where with all to fund something like this.



158  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Megyn Kelly has about pissed off everyone on: October 25, 2017, 09:39:32 AM
She pissed off many pro Trump Republicans with her non stop attacks on him and the LEFT hates her because she worked for Fox ( a crime )  and had a right ward lean.  She can't please anyone now:

https://spectator.org/the-manipulative-feminism-of-megyn-kelly/
159  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Courageous on: October 25, 2017, 09:03:13 AM
Being "touched from behind" and told a "dirty joke" by a likely cognitively impaired 89 yo is certainly worth a multi million assault claim and world class front page headlines for an actress who no one has heard of:

https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/george-h-w-bush-apologizes-055154853.html

Great words from this great woman:

"What comforts me is that I too can use my power, which isn’t so different from a President really,” she added. “I can enact positive change. I can actually help people. I can be a symbol of my democracy. I can refuse to call him President, and call out other abuses of power when I see them. I can vote for a President, in part, by the nature of his or her character, knowing that his or her political decisions must necessarily stem from that character.”

160  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Art of the Deal author on: October 25, 2017, 08:35:31 AM
reflecting on Trump.  Short attention span?  ADD?

from the author of Doug's favorite book:

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/ashamed-writer-art-deal-says-trump-man-70-7/
161  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Unqualified friend of interior Secretary gets monster Puerto Rico deal on: October 25, 2017, 08:25:54 AM
gets 300 million dollar contract despite having 2 employees and almost no experience .  This makes "War Dogs" movie seem tame:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/453082/whitefish-puerto-rico-no-bid-contract-stinks

no corruption here...  I first read Ryan Zinke had no connection ....  ah but alas he does.  His son did some once worked for the firm associated with this contract.

Zinke must be fired immediately IF this is true

This makes "War Dogs" movie seem tame:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Dogs_(2016_film)
162  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Xi - propaganda to be taught in schools on: October 25, 2017, 06:49:30 AM
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/10/24/xi-jinping-thought-will-go-textbooks-classes-brains-chinese-students/
163  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / one R involved on: October 24, 2017, 08:50:43 PM
who was the Republican ?

Bush campaign?
164  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / David French there is no common ground on: October 24, 2017, 08:48:35 PM
"  This is classic, well-meaning liberalism: Bring people together, explore common concerns, and emerge with a (liberal) consensus. People don’t like division, the thinking goes. They want unity. "

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/453057/polarization-america-unity-both-sides
165  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / this industry is absolutely booming on: October 24, 2017, 05:33:54 PM
can anyone guess what I am referring to?

If only I could invest .  Legitimate yes, but also an element of being a racket: 

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/former-weinstein-production-assistant-shares-192736022.html
166  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Let bygones be bygones on: October 24, 2017, 07:57:32 AM
Just come home and we will forgive and forget and get you a job:

https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/insanity-official-says-uk-will-not-prosecute-returning-isis-terrorists-syria-iraq/
167  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Conservative Review on Newsweek on: October 23, 2017, 06:18:23 PM
Newsweek , the Dem Party  jornolister propaganda outlet

Clinton Inc. ONLY got $145M in uranium deal-linked cash ...

Posted October 23, 2017 03:56 PM by Rob Eno



WHAT’S THE PROBLEM? …
Newsweek “fact check” … Greg Price of Newsweek did a “fact-check” entitled “Did Russia send money to Bill Clinton’s foundation like Trump says? Fact checking the president’s claim.” Here’s the key part: “All told, $145 million went to the Clinton Foundation from those linked to Uranium One and UrAsia, but it went to the charity organization and not the Clinton family. Furthermore, most of those donations occurred before and during Hillary Clinton’s 2008 campaign, according to The Post.”

And the “assessment” of Price? “Yes, the foundation received money and Bill Clinton was paid to give a speech, but there’s no evidence the Clintons were paid by Russians to push through the uranium deal.” Yes, that is really his conclusion. One hundred forty-five million dollars but nah we couldn’t find anything. Are these folks serious?

168  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Waters Trump - a hot item on: October 23, 2017, 06:51:40 AM
Maxine Waters offers to take Donald out for dinner and an evening on the town :

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/10/22/maxine-waters-i-will-go-and-take-trump-out-tonight/

Cantina D'Italia used to be a good Italian restaurant I would recommend if it still exists.  Back room with table for intimacy.

Melania 'might' be pissed  though

 grin
169  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Walt Williams on: October 22, 2017, 10:59:04 AM
https://townhall.com/columnists/walterewilliams/2017/10/18/who-pays-what-in-taxes-n2395681
170  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / opinion piece on: October 22, 2017, 09:54:08 AM
I am not an expert in education, of course, but if you ask me education starts in the HOME not in kindergarten.  More money for tech , and more data (endless data just endless  - here we go again with data)  collection in the schools and at best more marginal results is not going to change anything.

Maybe Gates should start doing his data collection in homes to find out the cultural reasons some groups do not perform well

why do asians do well despite the so called white privilege / supremacy?  Obviously it starts in their homes.  What are the cultural differences that are far more likely to contribute to good or bad academic performance?

(I know this is not a politically correct approach -lets keep blaming it all on white/anglo supremacy or privilege)

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/10/21/common-core-backer-bill-gates-announces-plan-invest-1-7-billion-public-education/
171  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / lets see if W rises on: October 21, 2017, 03:32:10 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_presidents_of_the_United_States

aggregate of historians (mostly libs of course)  is W is 33 and James Earl Carter is 27.
i think some of the libs may well reconsider moving W  up a few notches perhaps to 28 just behind James Earl Carter.

Brock of course is so far tied with John Quincy Adams at 15 and of course is ranked ahead of Reagan who is 17 just ahead of Bill Clinton who is 20.

no subjectivity here.

172  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues on: October 21, 2017, 02:39:43 PM
"non consensual sex"

Rape Huh 

or she had an sexual affair and is claiming he coerced or harassed her Huh

$ 32 million is a lot of dough !!!

There are a lot of women who around the world who would love that kind of harassment.  Sorry politically correct folks but , true.

173  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / GW students on: October 21, 2017, 12:30:15 PM
tax experts:

https://pjmedia.com/video/trumps-tax-plan-called-bernie-sanders-plan/
174  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Just sickening: Obama-Clinton Treason with the Russians (Uranium) on: October 21, 2017, 10:21:49 AM
"Interestingly, as the plea agreement shows, the Obama DOJ’s Fraud Section was then run by Andrew Weissmann, who is now one of the top prosecutors in Robert Mueller’s ongoing special-counsel investigation of suspected Trump collusion with Russia.  "

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/452972/uranium-one-deal-obama-administration-doj-hillary-clinton-racketeering
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/452972/uranium-one-deal-obama-administration-doj-hillary-clinton-racketeering

175  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Middle East: War, Peace, and SNAFU, TARFU, and FUBAR on: October 20, 2017, 08:36:27 PM
we screw over the Kurds again.

 cry
176  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Fredo? on: October 20, 2017, 04:20:26 PM
Is this a reference to Fredo from Godfather? 
I am probably the only person on the planet that did not like that movie series:


From Wikipedia:
Fredo (Frederico) Corleone is a fictional character in Mario Puzo's novel The Godfather. Fredo is portrayed by American actor John Cazale in the Francis Ford Coppola film adaptation and in the sequel, The Godfather Part II.
He is the second son of the mafia don Vito Corleone (Marlon Brando and Robert De Niro). Fredo is the younger brother of Sonny (James Caan) and the elder brother to Michael (Al Pacino) and sister, Connie (Talia Shire).[1]
Being weaker and less intelligent than his brothers, Fredo has little power or status within the Corleone crime family.
177  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Even when Trump is liberal Republicans seem to find a way to get on: October 20, 2017, 09:51:29 AM
to the left of him:

https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/gop-browbeats-trumps-epa-into-expanding-obamacare-of-energy
178  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: October 19, 2017, 09:42:15 PM
GM,
Yes and
Venezuela is a more recent example
179  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / The planners in the US would do the same thing if they could on: October 19, 2017, 08:29:50 PM
and they had a national health care system to tell us all what to do.

But they have no problem taxing cigarettes in Britain like here
Why not make them illegal and put smokers in jail?

Why not tax those with BMIs over 30 and those over 40 double tax and those over 50 -> jail.

What about all the drunks in England and Ireland?  Refuse them care if they don't stop drinking.

I suppose gender re assignment surgery is covered.
What about all the people spreading STDs?  Talk about irresponsible behavior.  (can't blame it on Reagan he's dead)
I could think of other examples

Make it LAW ->  1) all people must exercise for 30 minutes a day for 6 days a week

2 )  Sweets banned

3)  limit red meat to 8 oz per week per person
4 )  you must prove you are eating your greens and fruit and nuts daily

Otherwise your labeled a deplorable and SJW have the right to decide your fate.


(PS my BMI is about 26)
180  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Decline, Fall, and Resurrection of America on: October 19, 2017, 06:52:36 PM
Notice the WHITE face?

mocking white folk now!  Could you imagine if it was black face ala AL Jolson ( which certainly was offensive )
181  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Bush Presidency; GW Bush; the Bush Family on: October 19, 2017, 04:22:07 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4997756/Bush-throws-shade-Trump-bullying-prejudice.html

Well, I guess W  is saying that 60 million people  in the US who were born in other countries is not enough.  Imiigration levels are higher then ever including the 1800 and 1900 hundreds mass immigration  waves

I agree that Trump is too crude and vulgar but W, there  is a reason your brother lost.

There IS a reason you are the bottom of the Presidential rankings dung heap.

You had no problems keeping your mouth shut while Obama was transforming our country, but NOW you decide to speak out?

What about the lack of civility from the LEFT which includes the mocking of you while you were President.  Stand up for us on the right for God's sake.

182  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / 1999, Russell : Islam in Asia & Africa on: October 19, 2017, 03:55:13 PM
http://www.seasite.niu.edu/crossroads/russell/islam.htm

This is from 1999 but seems to give some window in Islam and Asia:

http://apcss.org/Publications/Report_Islam_in_Asia_99.html
183  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / You have got to be kidding on: October 19, 2017, 03:40:12 PM
 "In Minneapolis, a petition is circulating to replace a Columbus statue at the state capitol with one of the artist formerly known as Prince"

Yes lets revere an HIV  +  drug addict.

184  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / MSM blackout of real Russian conspiracy scandal on: October 19, 2017, 09:58:04 AM
https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/wtf-msm-virtually-no-coverage-of-the-obama-clinton-russian-uranium-bombshell
185  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / MSM blackout of Obama?Clinton era corruption on: October 19, 2017, 09:57:26 AM
Bamster can do no wrong as  again the wagons circle around him. Got to protect THEIR guy:

https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/wtf-msm-virtually-no-coverage-of-the-obama-clinton-russian-uranium-bombshell
186  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Islam in Asia & Africa on: October 19, 2017, 09:51:08 AM
Good questions Doug.  Exactly what is the impact of the Muslims in the Far East to us and the rest of the world?



187  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Malkin: reality check, possibility of false rape accusations on: October 18, 2017, 08:29:42 AM
https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/malkin-beware-the-rape-allegation-bandwagon
188  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / ISIS handed big defeat by Trump on: October 18, 2017, 08:24:12 AM
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/raqqa-victory-means-trump-defeated-isis-in-months-after-years-of-excuses-from-obama/
189  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / very discouraging article on the US navy on: October 18, 2017, 07:55:57 AM
(but they are politically correct so what is the big deal compared to that ?   angry  - thanks Brock)

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/452768/us-navy-355-ships-needed
190  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / singled out because she was black by white man on: October 17, 2017, 07:31:25 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/tamika-mallory-says-she-kicked-210557156.html

of course she was polite and agreeable and she has not idea other then because she is black as to why she was for no reason singled out to be asked to leave an airplane.

i believe her story. 
191  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / winners of Liberty award on: October 17, 2017, 07:17:19 PM
prior to McCain who suddenly is one the list.  Wonder if he supported Trump if he would be on the list for his service?

notice Hill also won it for the most miles travelled.

Colin Powell for what?

William Gates for what?

Spielberg for his movies?

some seem bona fide but others seem dubious

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Liberty_Medal
192  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / A real Russian conspiracy not fake one on: October 17, 2017, 06:32:58 PM
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/452776/russian-nuclear-scandal-what-did-hillary-clinton-know
193  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Obama Clinton Russian collusion/scandal on: October 17, 2017, 06:32:25 PM
don't expect the MSM to report on THIS 24/7 like they do bashing Trump in every way the can dream up.

I first heard of this on Rush radio this afternoon:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/452776/russian-nuclear-scandal-what-did-hillary-clinton-know

194  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / is this guy really fit to serve? on: October 17, 2017, 10:50:20 AM
Darling of the LEFT John McCain has brain cancer.  Yet he pompously goes around giving anti Trump speeches and voting against anything he comes up with :

ttps://www.spartareport.com/2017/10/barking-news-sgt-bowe-bergdahl-pleads-guilty-to-desertion-and-misbehavior/

Should someone with brain cancer be in the Senate?  Waiting for him to seize in NJ.....
195  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Bergdahl pleads guilty for desertion on: October 17, 2017, 08:50:07 AM
ttps://www.spartareport.com/2017/10/barking-news-sgt-bowe-bergdahl-pleads-guilty-to-desertion-and-misbehavior/

Anyone remember how Obama lauded this guy as a hero and had his parents to the WH? :

http://www.dailywire.com/news/22305/breaking-alleged-traitor-hailed-american-hero-ben-shapiro#

Nothing like having an American President laud a deserter as a hero!    angry
196  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / The Four on: October 17, 2017, 08:01:42 AM
ROGER L. SIMON
Four GOP Senators Standing in the Way of Progress
 BY ROGER L SIMON OCTOBER 16, 2017 CHAT 57 COMMENTS

While the media fixates on the circus surrounding Mitch McConnell v. Steve Bannon with Donald Trump as ringmaster and the Democrats in the role of the increasingly disloyal -- now Harvey-besmirched -- opposition, the real story involves none of these people directly.

Four Republican senators hold and have held our country in their hands for most of this year by themselves. They obstruct progress by wielding far too much power than their positions and number merit.

They are Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska,  Rand Paul of Kentucky, and John McCain of Arizona.

These four prevented healthcare reform and they now stand in the way of tax reform.

Of them, only Paul has something of an excuse.  A libertarian, his positions at least make sense ideologically.  The other three act out of a kind of morally narcissistic pique, an almost pathological need to be at the center of every controversial issue, to make the world hang on their decisions and then sigh in disappointment as they ultimately vote "nyet."  (Or, in the case of Democrats, applaud them as great  "patriots" above party politics.)


In McCain's case, this narcissistic craving for attention is exacerbated by a heavy dollop of Trump hatred.  John can't stand Donald and is unlikely to support any legislation that would bring credit to the president, regardless of its value.  McCain undoubtedly considers this a justifiable response to Trump's besmirching of the Arizonan's war hero reputation early in the campaign, but the job of a senator is to serve the people of his state (and the country) and not his own necessity for vengeance.

The conventional explanation for the four senators' resistance -- considerably more effective, so far, than the more trumpeted "Resistance" of the left -- is that they are representing the needs of their states.  That might have had some minute superficial truth, temporary as it was, in the realm of healthcare, but regarding tax reform it is complete nonsense.

The most important reform, one that affects all fifty states,  is lowering the corporate tax rate from the absurd 35%, which puts our companies at such a disadvantage and incentivizes them to leave billions in foreign accounts, to something close to 20%.  Even lower would be great.  (By comparison, the corporate rate of our leading economic competitor, China, is 25%, with certain privileged businesses -- aka "qualified enterprises"-- reduced to 15%. Ireland is at 12.5% and possibly dropping to 8%.)
 
A Congress that was even remotely doing its job would have changed ours years ago. But it doesn't seem to be able to act even on something this obvious.  People like the above mentioned four are at the root of this stasis, putting their own parochial interests over those of the American people.

When Steve Bannon speaks of "primarying" politicians like this, he isn't really being a bully or an extremist, as the media likes to paint him.  He is actually making quite a bit of sense.  Trump appears to know this and, from the look on his face at Monday's joint press conference, McConnell does too.

Whether Mitch himself is to blame for the legislative failures of the last eight or so months or whether Collins, Murkowski, Paul and McCain are just too intransigent is difficult to say.  As Trump made clear Monday, we shall soon find out.
197  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / JW on: October 16, 2017, 07:55:28 PM
more "deep state" coverups ?


http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/10/16/loretta-lynch-documents-deep-state-doesnt-want-release-damaging-records-tom-fitton
198  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: October 16, 2017, 06:36:31 PM
Crafty D :

"  JW: WTF? Tillerson State Dept. and Sessions DOJ protecting Hillary?!? "


That is precisely why I was hoping that JJ would ask Chafitz the question *why*

Smells  like a rotten egg in Denmark to me.  (though I have never been to Denmark)
199  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: October 16, 2017, 06:33:58 PM
GM:

" **Remember, Hollywood/DNC/the left isn't dropping Weinstein because they found out what he has done. They've known for years, decades even. They are dropping him because WE found out about him."

That is the truth in a nutshell

Plain and simple.

200  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: North and South Korea on: October 16, 2017, 05:16:53 PM
if we do not use military force the NK will continue to expand their nuclear capability and threaten the whole SE Asia and more distant targets.

I conclude we should just assassinate Kim and his top henchmen, if we can .  Then be ready for any response if HIS underlings have the chuztpa to give a military response.

I wonder what the war game guys have concluded about this scenario.

Are they really against it because it won't work, or risk too high, or political fall out or all of it?

One wonders what the NK people really think of Kim and his mob.  They may be totally blacked out from the rest of the world and or just too terrified to pretend/think otherwise .

Do they know how much they suffer from the hands of the monsters who control them?  How much is brain washing and how much is sheer fear?  Don't know.

If Kin and his mob were dead would the average N Korean really fight to the death?





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