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201  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Support our troops on: December 24, 2015, 01:17:47 PM
Interesting.  New ship named after a private first class deceased medal of honor recipient:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/watch-navy-latest-1-8-175000141.html

Seems better than just after another President or State.
202  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: December 24, 2015, 01:09:32 PM
PP,
I assume you know that photo is faked?
203  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Media Issues on: December 24, 2015, 01:07:13 PM
Now the headlines are Megyn (egotist) Kelly vs (Trump) the egotist in the marketing gimmicks for the next debate.

Trump should get paid $5 million for his performance from Fox.

Just like celebrity headlines about who is divorcing who, who is sleeping or cheating on who, who is feuding with who.  It is all bullshit to promote sales.

Now the debates have become commercialized crap.

204  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Donald Trump on: December 24, 2015, 01:03:31 PM
"That there is no proof that Putin is guilty of murder is an absurdity"

I would add, "that there is no proof Hillary is guilty of multiple felonies" is also an absurdity.

There is much corruption here.  Not as violent and maybe more behind the scenes but ask any Eastern European immigrant.  They see it just about as corrupt here in the good old USA.
205  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues on: December 24, 2015, 12:57:09 PM
"I think they should all get full citizenship."

Absolutely.  This would be "good" for us and for America!

We all benefit.  rolleyes
206  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: December 23, 2015, 09:31:29 PM
Dick is fun to read and he does sometimes have a unique take but this:

"Ominous implications for Hillary"

Yeah sure.  I'm holding my breath....
207  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues on: December 23, 2015, 09:26:14 PM
I wonder if DHS sends them postcards to notify them of eviction first or just announce in the newspapers.  The Post will be out there with their cameras decrying the inhumanity of it all and the MSM will playing up that angle to and the racial card and the women and children card:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/us-plans-raids-to-deport-families-who-surged-across-border/2015/12/23/034fc954-a9bd-11e5-8058-480b572b4aae_story.html
208  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of the left on: December 23, 2015, 07:27:26 AM
Polls shows 59% think Hillary is dishonest and 35% think she is.

The scary part is 35 refuse to admit the truth.

If the 35% said she is dishonest but that they just don't care than that would give me more hope.  What this suggests is that 35% of people are outright liars too.
209  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Big data and its' use in control of humanity on: December 23, 2015, 07:16:54 AM
What?  I thought big data and computers was supposed to fix these kinds of mistakes.  

http://news.yahoo.com/more-3-000-washington-prisoners-mistakenly-freed-early-100500089.html#

PS,

Crafty - I think this is a valid thread for discussion.  Our every day lives are being increasingly collected, catalogued, measured, categorized, studies from every angle, and used by merchants, business, politicians, criminals, universities, and beaurocrats, and anybody who wants and can find a way to manipulate us. 

The left is using it big time against us.

Did you notice the burlap outfit Hillary was wearing?  Doesn't it ring a bell that it looks like some futuristic outfit from the Sci Fi movies that a mind controlling dictator would wear?

The choice of that outfit is no accident like everything else about Clinton.
210  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: December 23, 2015, 07:12:25 AM
"Well, Presidential image ended with Clinton and his whoring ways. And it worsened with O'bummer, though one wonders how it could have gotten any worse?"

I agree.  This is one of the reasons I love GW Bush.  Many of us could rightly question his policies but I for one really appreciated and respected his 100% effort at bringing dignity back to the WH.

He kicked the sleaze out the back door.   He led by example. 

I can live with Trump's verbal indiscretions for now.   But if he turns out to be a lib in his policies I won't be able to tolerate it.

Dignity, respect, exemplary behavior, honesty is very important to me.  Without at least a semblance of that we have anarchy.

None of us are perfect but....

 
211  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: education on: December 22, 2015, 08:05:22 PM
What's the catch?   If a Republican said anything like this there would be a huge eruption all over the MSM:

http://thefederalist.com/2015/12/22/hillary-clinton-if-elected-president-ill-shut-down-50000-public-schools/

Not a peep from the teachers' unions?  What gives?  There must some sort of shell game.  She wants to close all these schools so she can give more money somehow.  What is the punch line?
212  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: December 22, 2015, 04:03:30 PM
She wouldn't use the restroom while there was one other lady in it.  Too big to restroom I guess.

They really should get her a Johnny on the spot (upscale version of course) for the next debate.  Also makes one wonder what she was doing in the restroom.  Maybe she was getting debate coaching. 

213  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / For minorities and women; (non minoirty men not invited) on: December 22, 2015, 07:27:10 AM
are at higher risk?   Huh?   Screw the white men who get this.......   Well women live longer than men.

It must be great to stand on a podium and call for a cure using other people's money for a terrible disease.   What a wonderful Godly saint she is.   I am voting for her (sarcasm at max volume): 

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/clinton-to-call-for-alzheimers-cure-increase-spending-to-dollar2-billion-annually/ar-BBnO2JJ?li=BBnb7Kz
214  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces on: December 20, 2015, 10:17:45 PM
Rush is so brilliant at expressing his thoughts.  He definitely does have a talent from God.  He verbalizes the thoughts and feelings of millions.

Yet the left has somewhat succeeded in marginalizing him.
215  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness on: December 20, 2015, 10:10:48 PM
He probably just told Hill that he will use it or she will go to jail.

216  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Donald Trump on: December 20, 2015, 10:07:20 PM
PP:  "There lies the difference with you and I. When I look at the last few decades and the march towards larger and larger government, and then look at debacles like the Ryan Omnibus, what is the difference between the parties. They all say one thing and do another."

We agree on this.  I just saw the movie 'Divergent' on cable.   The parallel analogy of  the fictional "Erudites" in the movie, and the Progressive liberal elites is astounding.  I don't know if author of the novel the movie is based on (Veronica Ross) meant this to be political indictment of the modern Democrat party and how it is heading towards using mind control to take over the rest of us but that is precisely what is happening to us in real life.   In the movie and in real life people lose their freedoms and are controlled and told how to act.   

PP:  "Let's say Hillary wins but the Pubbies retain control of the House and the Senate. How much influence would Hillary have? If you think a lot, then it means that you would expect the House and Senate to continue to give in and not fight her, just like Obama. And if that is so, what the hell good are they?  (Sure, she could try the Executive Order bit, but if the Pubbies had any balls, they could put an end to that.)"

This has been the history for the last 25 years.

PP: "This is a battle for the soul of the Party. It is the middle class base versus the elites and the future of the Party."

True but I am not sure exactly where Trump fits in to redefining the soul of the party as you put it.  Yes he speaks about stopping the illegal flood and even reversing it and other things we like but I am just not sure what his principals are.  When Levin interviewed way back, he asked him what his definition of a conservative was.  Trumps answer was rather vague.  So to me the future of the Republican party under Trump remains an "open book"

PP:  (BTW, if it is Rubio or Cruz as the nominee and either loses to Hillary, which I expect, the GOP is finished anyway. It will be seen as the GOPe having steered the Party to another "electable" nominee, who once again lost. At that point, Trump becomes the leader of the Party no matter what, and even though he does not run again. The times, they are a changin'.)

First, at this point in time at least Cruz is leading Hillary Clinton while Trump lags.  Secondly if Trump loses we are in just as much deep doodoo. 
217  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Donald Trump on: December 20, 2015, 12:33:10 PM
Well he has no support from his party as well as the propaganda machine from the msm.

But that said if he cannot improve these numbers I cannot support him even though I often agree with him.  I agree with CD and Doug, we cannot let Hillary win.

Unfortunately I agree with him on immigration and temporarily suspending new Muslims from coming to the US.

But we cannot even win those battles without the independents and "rightish" leaning Reagan Democrats and a least some minorities.

Unless Trump can do better with these people he is done for.

I just don't want the whole country taken down with him.   If Hillary is in for 4 or 8 years.....

OTOH there is an excellent chance of some major catastrophic event coming in the next few years so maybe it is better to let the Dems take that fall.  But that is a big if and conjecture all the way around.
218  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / more propaganda on: December 20, 2015, 12:24:36 PM
Gotta love the phony poses Obama does when he is near Putin.  You know the looks of consternation or leaning in closely with stern facial expressions for the cameras.  Remember the liberal psychologists advising Bill Clinton to have that phony thing he did with his lower lip?

Here is Brock with the same phony lower lip thing:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/obama-visits-san-bernardino-families
219  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / More evidence Hitler had an undescended testical on: December 20, 2015, 10:45:07 AM
I read that the autopsy on his remains by the Soviets listed this as well but it was unclear how true or accurate that was or if it was made up for propaganda purposes.  Now another source which confirms it:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/adolf-hitler-one-testicle_56765819e4b06fa6887daf84
220  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Sen.Ted Cruz on: December 19, 2015, 01:09:50 PM
Doug,

"Rubio is the best one to do it.  Rubio will eat Hilllary's lunch over Libya using his mastery of the facts and details about how it was done wrong."

Maybe, but most people don't care about Libya.   That is not going to win him a general election IMHO.

"She can't win without the full support of the Obama get out the vote machine."  

What makes you say that?

"I caught Cruz last night being interviewed by Greta Van Sustern (God! What a moron!"

I couldn't agree more.  Greta's shows are totally boring.  Who cares about some legal technicality of some unimportant trial etc.
Plus there is no doubt in my mind she is a flaming liberal who just keeps it toned down.  She will certainly vote for her fem fatale Hillary.

Additionally I am concluding that Rubio probably is the best all around candidate with his big flaws, particularly on immigration, noted.  But I can bear voting for him a GREAT DEAL more than Bush who I would have stayed home.   Rubio is establishment friendly which is a big problem but it is better than losing to Hillary.
221  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Open Borders Moneyon Rubio on: December 19, 2015, 12:54:43 PM
Open-borders money backs Marco Rubio    

By Michelle Malkin  •  December 17, 2015 07:35 PM


Open-borders money backs Marco Rubio
 by Michelle Malkin

 Copyright 2015

Political analysis of the Las Vegas debate immigration dust-up between Sens. Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio is missing a key ingredient: the money factor.

You can read the lips of the candidates till the cows come home. But you’ll get to the truth much faster when you learn where pro-amnesty power brokers have placed their bets and hitched their wagons.

Rubio’s brazenly fraudulent campaign to paint Cruz as soft on illegal immigration is a flabbergasting attempt to distract from the Florida junior senator’s faithful allegiance to the open-borders donor class.

Here’s what you need to know:

Facebook, Microsoft and Silicon Valley back Marco Rubio. Mark Zuckerberg is a social justice CEO who panders to Hispanics with his pro-amnesty, anti-deportation advocacy; Facebook is an H-1B visa dependent company working hard to obliterate hurdles to hiring an unlimited stream of cheap foreign tech workers. It’s no coincidence that Facebook’s lobbying outfit, FWD.us, was waging war on Sen. Cruz online this week in parallel with Sen. Rubio’s disingenuous onstage attack.

The D.C. front group, which Zuckerberg seeded in 2013 with nearly $40 million during the Gang of Eight fight, has consistently provided political protection for Rubio as he carried their legislative water.

FWD.us’s GOP subsidiary, “Americans for a Conservative Direction,” showered Rubio and pro-illegal alien amnesty Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., with millions of dollars in media ad buys. The group also funded a deceptive, $150,000 ad campaign for immigration sellout Rep. Renee Ellmers, R-N.C., which falsely claimed she opposed amnesty to help her fend off a primary challenge. In all, FWD.us spent an estimated $5 million on TV and radio spots in more than 100 GOP districts before the Senate passed the Gang of Eight bill in June 2013.

Zuckerberg personally donated to Rubio, as have pro-H-1B expansionist Silicon Valley CEOs from Oracle, Cisco and Seagate. Microsoft, founded by leading H-1B/amnesty cheerleader Bill Gates, has been Rubio’s No. 2 corporate donor the past five years.

Paul Singer backs Marco Rubio. The hedge fund billionaire announced his support for Rubio in October. Amnesty is and always has been a top agenda item for Singer, who helped fund the National Immigration Forum along with fellow hedge fund billionaire George Soros. NIF propped up a faux “grass-roots” initiative of religious conservatives, dubbed the Evangelical Immigration Table, to lobby for the Gang of Eight.

NIF was founded by far-left attorney Rick Swartz, who opposes tracking/deporting visa overstayers and opposes employer sanctions against companies that violated immigration laws. Swartz also served as an advisor to Microsoft.

The Singer/Soros-funded NIF helped sabotage the Immigration Act of 1990, which was intended to impose modest restrictions on immigration, and turned it into “one of the most expansionist immigration bills ever passed,” as one expert put it. On Capitol Hill, Swartz worked closely with immigration expansionist Sen. Spencer Abraham’s legislative director Cesar Conda and Sen. Sam Brownback’s legislative director (now GOP House speaker) Paul Ryan—-who is busy this holiday season fronting an omnibus bill that will open the floodgates to 250,000 unskilled foreign guest workers.

Side note: Beltway establishment fixture Conda previously worked for the pro-amnesty U.S. Chamber of Commerce and mentored Ryan from the age of 19. Conda guided newbie Rubio as his Senate chief of staff from 2011-2014 and remains his powerful immigration Svengali behind closed doors.

Rove/Bush-tied front groups back Marco Rubio. The American Action Network is a Big Business GOP lobbying organization led by former Sen. Norm Coleman, R-Minn., and co-founded with John McCain adviser/fundraiser Fred Malek. AAN shares [clarification: shared] its offices with amnesty peddler Karl Rove’s American Crossroads in D.C. AAN’s “action arm,” the American Action Forum, was founded in February 2010 and proceeded to spend a whopping $25 million to attack conservatives who opposed amnesty. [Correction: AAN embarked on the anti-conservative spending campaign.] Jeb Bush sat on the AAF board.

In 2013, the group dumped more than $750,000 into primetime, Fox News Channel ad buys pushing the Gang of Eight immigration bill, including $100,000 in ads to support leading GOP voices for amnesty, including, you guessed it, Sen. Marco Rubio.

Open-borders Democrats love Marco Rubio. As Sen. Schumer brayed last month: Rubio “was not only totally committed, he was in that room with us. His fingerprints are all over” the Gang of Eight monstrosity. Indeed, Sens. Durbin and Rubio plotted strategy during early morning workout sessions at the Senate gym.

Rubio hired Enrique Gonzalez, a Democratic donor and partner with the global immigration law firm, Fragomen Del Rey, to be his chief adviser on the bill. Gonzalez specializes in obtaining H-1B guest worker visas (tripled in the Gang of Eight bill) and EB-5 visas for wealthy foreign investors. After the bill passed, Gonzalez returned to his law firm as managing partner of the Florida office, where he brags about his role as Rubio’s “special counsel” and “principal advisor/negotiator”—read: bill writer.

Bottom line?

Cruz kept his promise to voters. He voted against the Gang of Eight giveaway. Period.

Rubio broke his promise: He paid lip service to border security and the American Dream, while scheming with Sens. Schumer and Durbin on the 180,000-word, 1,200-page Christmas tree for Big Biz, Big Tech and ethnic lobbyists.

Rubio didn’t just vote for the bill. He and his staff were integral to crafting it, shilling for it, and cashing in on the legislative boondoggle dubbed a “permanent pension plan for immigration lawyers.”

When you need the truth about which Beltway crapweasels are selling out America, always follow the money.
222  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Rubio is obviously the left's most feared opposition on: December 19, 2015, 07:04:07 AM
at least for now:

Levin played Chuck Schumer on a TV interview giving Rubio much praise for being part of the gang of eight.  And we read in a few places Dems are afraid of Cruz and Trump.

This is the biggest compliment to Cruz.  Obviously he is the Democrats biggest worry.  Who for one second thinks they are worried about Trump or Cruz.

Schumer is the ultimate manipulator.  Gives Rubio credit?  Come on.  We see it is a ruse to get Rubio's base pissed at him and make it harder for him in the primary.

As Rush knows well, though I don't think Levin gets it, whenever a Democrat either gives credit to a Republican or gives a Republican advise it is for their benefit in some way.

223  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: US Foreign Policy on: December 19, 2015, 06:48:53 AM
"Forgive the nit, but a Green Beret, not a SEAL."

No problem.  Not all special forces are alike just like all Muslims are not alike.


224  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Government programs & regulations, spending, deficit, and budget process on: December 19, 2015, 06:43:49 AM
Naturally Obama is emboldened to go after gun control with his summary win with the omnibus bill:

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/self-assured-obama-leave-field-100000228.html
225  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Government programs & regulations, spending, deficit, and budget process on: December 19, 2015, 06:34:34 AM
Yes and GM was right.  Ryan was the pick to get Boehner's plan through.  Only Republicans "can hold up the government".   Nothing said about Democrats filibustering their way to control the Senate.

Not clear if we will have the Senate by then.

I could deal with Bernie Sanders populism more than Hillary's sleaze.

At least he seems to be honest.   We need that.  Not sleaze.  Not from the right either - Boehner and McConnell.

Just too little of that in the world.
226  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / The whole thing is just complicated. Enough to make one's head spin on: December 18, 2015, 11:22:39 PM
Here is more detail on the spending bill.  The only thing I read that I like is allowing us to export oil.  But that is coupled with more tax breaks for more favored green leftist projects.  Probably all the liberals have family members invested in this stuff.   More extended tax breaks for *lower earning income* families and for those with children and college students.  (Don't they already get a bunch);  Got to love these too:
"Other extended tax cuts include breaks for some teachers, commuters, timber investors, electric vehicle owners and makers of hard cider drinks.
(Why teachers?  They don't make a ton but their benefits have been quite good and they only work a shortened year.  This must be a payoff to their unions.) How about this:
People in the seven states without income taxes will be able to deduct local sales taxes on their federal returns."  (Where did this come from?)  If this ain't fair I don't know what is.
Hey if you go to a state without income tax (which itself is a big break) now you can write off your sales tax?  If people in those states would rather live in a state where they pay income tax they can move there to get the deduction.   But why fuck over the rest of us who pay state income and sales tax?  (The answer is because they can - because it benefits their benefactors somehow)
Just simplify the Damn tax code!

Anyway before I explode see for yourselves:

Majority Whip Steve Scalise, R-La., right, walks to the chamber for final votes as the House and Senate rush to send President Barack Obama a budget package, at the Capitol in Washington, Friday, Dec. 18, 2015. The House easily passed a $1.14 trillion spending bill to fund the government through next September, capping a peaceful end to a yearlong struggle over the budget, taxes, and Republican demands of President Barack Obama. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)

WASHINGTON - Congress on Friday sent President Barack Obama a bipartisan but deficit draining year-end budget package that boosts federal agency spending and awards tax cuts to both families and a sweeping array of business interests.

A 65-33 Senate vote on the measure was the last act that shipped the measure, combining $1.14 trillion in new spending in 2016 and $680 billion in tax cuts over the coming decade, to Obama. It had earlier swept through the House on a pair of decisive votes on Thursday and Friday, marking a peaceful end to a yearlong struggle over the budget, taxes, and Republican efforts to derail his regulatory agenda.

Obama will sign the measure, which includes many of the spending increases he fought for all year and is largely cleansed of GOP attempts to block his moves on the environment, financial regulation, and consumer protection. Republicans won increases for the military and an end to a ban on exporting U.S. oil, as well as permanent tax cuts for business investment.

Republicans were evenly split with 27 of them voting in favour and 26 against the bill. Presidential contender Marco Rubio was absent. Only six Democrats and Independent Bernie Sanders, another presidential hopeful, voted against the measure.

With the votes, lawmakers wrapped up a surprisingly productive, bipartisan burst of late-session legislation in a divided Congress.

The measure received big bipartisan majorities in both House and Senate. It capped an impressive first few weeks for new Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., who got the benefit of the doubt from most Republicans, who by a wide margin opposed earlier legislation that established the framework for the budget package. House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi of California, a key negotiator, swung forcefully behind the measure after showing initial frustration over its lifting of an oil export ban and lack of action on helping Puerto Rico address its fiscal woes.

"They wanted big oil so much that they gave away the store," Pelosi said. But she cited successes in driving away most GOP policy proposals from the measure. Democratic also pushed through higher domestic budgets and tax breaks for working families and renewable energy.

"This bipartisan compromise secures meaningful wins for Republicans and the American people, such as the repeal of the outdated, anti-growth ban on oil exports," Ryan said, citing a large increase for the Pentagon and curbs on the activities of the Environmental Protection Agency and the IRS.

Some tea party lawmakers were dismayed by the burst of spending and a lack of wins for conservatives.

"There are so many things in this bill that will be surprising and shocking to the American people," said Rep. Walter Jones, R-N.C. "Maybe there is a Santa Claus. At least in the House."

The House voted on the spending portion of the measure on Friday, when it won support from House Republicans by a 150-95 margin. Democrats followed Pelosi's lead and backed the bill by a 166-18 margin. In a procedural quirk, the House passed most of the tax cuts — virtually all of them financed with deficit dollars — on Thursday.

The bill extends more than 50 expiring tax cuts, with more than 20 becoming permanent, including credits for companies' expenditures for research and equipment purchases and reductions for lower-earning families and households with children and college students.

The spending measure would fund the operations of every Cabinet agency. It awards increases of about 6 per cent, on average, above tight spending caps that were a relic of a 2011 budget and debt deal — and were opposed by both GOP defence hawks and Democrats seeking boosts in domestic spending.

The House vote bundled with the spending measure a tax bill that passed on Thursday.

The budget pact was the last major item in a late-session flurry of bipartisanship in Washington, including easy passage of long-stalled legislation funding highway programs and a rewrite of education programs.

Many on each side saw the budget deal as the best they could get under divided government. The need to win Obama's signature helped rid the measure of most of the controversial GOP provisions: killing federal money for Planned Parenthood, limiting the flow of Syrian refugees and undoing dozens of Obama actions on the environment, labour, financial regulation and relations with Cuba.

The measure contains large spending boosts for veterans and medical research, and funds a familiar roster of grants for transportation projects, first responders and community development.

It also clears away an almost $1 billion backlog of federal courthouse projects and sends hundreds of millions of dollars to the states and districts of a handful of powerful lawmakers such as Sen. Thad Cochran, R-Miss., and Rep. Harold Rogers, R-Ky., the chairmen of the Appropriations committees.

Also crammed into the two bills are provisions trimming some of the levies that help finance Obama's prized 2010 health care overhaul. The White House opposed the rollbacks, but Republicans and many Democrats savored them. A tax on medical devices would be suspended for two years, a levy on health insurers would stop for a year and, in a victory for unions, a tax on higher-cost insurance policies would be postponed two years until 2020.

In exchange for ending the oil export ban, Democrats won extensions of tax breaks for alternative power sources such as solar and wind energy.

Other extended tax cuts include breaks for some teachers, commuters, timber investors, electric vehicle owners and makers of hard cider drinks. People in the seven states without income taxes will be able to deduct local sales taxes on their federal returns.
227  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Donald Trump on: December 18, 2015, 10:57:27 PM
"Take down Obama? They haven't challenged him on anything else. Look at the damned Budget that just passed."

Exactly.  What a joke.  If it weren't for  Trump Krauthammer implies says the greats of the GOP, Bush, Kasich, Ryan, McConnel, and the rest would have been able to destroy Obama politically.

Quite frankly.  He has his head on backwards.   Looking at it with my head on straight if it not for Trump we wouldn't even be discussing immigration, what China is doing to us, or *Muslim* Jihadists.
So to say the establishment types would be taking down Obama is already proven to have never taken place - despite retaking the Senate and increasing the lead in the House.  The Senate is still run by Democrats. How is that possible?
228  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: US Foreign Policy on: December 18, 2015, 10:47:59 PM
As for the Navy Seal's opine in CD's post above I must suggest  I have never ever heard anyone of repute say ALL Muslims are terrorists.  So where does that come from?  Like Santorum said not all Muslims are Jihadists but all Jihadists are Muslim.  For Gods sake we all know that so where do these people come from to remind us this when pushing the left's agenda?

And yes the seal *fights* alongside some Muslims who have become his friends just as I *work* alongside many Muslims in healthcare who have become my friends (without fear of having my throat cut).   So what does that prove?

He and they, ain't there fighting Jews or Christians or Buddhists, or Hindus.

They are fighting Muslims.
229  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: US Foreign Policy on: December 18, 2015, 10:37:49 PM
"although he did boldly took us into Grenada to rescue ccp!"

Well it was really something to see supersonic jets missile over one end of island to the other end and disappear over the horizon in no more than a few seconds or another F16 (?) fly overhead and give us the back and forth wing tilt while we were waving from our little hillside.

At the same time however came the bombing of the barracks in Lebanon that saw many marines perish.  One ex military tried to tell me he was there and when I asked how he survived he said he was "outside taking a leak".
While it sounds like quite a story I find out later he *may* be a teller of tales though it is possible.

But Reagan knew when to pull out and not dig a deeper hole.

230  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Government programs & regulations, spending, deficit, and budget process on: December 18, 2015, 08:39:34 PM
"but this is pretty awful."

That is an understatement.   (So are the kind of people Krauthammer supports.) 

From Breitbart:  Jeff Sessions says basically FOUR people wrote this trillion dollar bill and once again no one is clear as to what is in it except for lobbyists.

Oh my God!   

We are done for.  I don't want empty platitudes.  I want change.  I want action.  I don't want compromise.  Every time the right compromises the left takes a step forward and then put their shoulders down and start driving us backwards again for the next fight.  The right compromises and it happens again.

How can anyone be optimistic?

Unless your an illegal, Chinese national, or Russian national.

 

231  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Why take Krauthammer or other establishment types seriously? on: December 18, 2015, 08:14:37 PM
Once again this early supporter of Mondale and Jimmy Carter shows why many call him an establishment elitist.  Mock Trump and mock millions of voters including me.

So really now.  We should not adjust the 14 th amendment to exclude people taking advantage of a law that was intended to protect Blacks who were slaves and Chinese and Indians not to allow anyone to step off a plane, a boat, a bus give birth and then demand they all stay so as not to break up families.  News for ya Charles; being American never was meant to be stupid or a sucker.  Being tolerant is one thing.  Being a moron is another.

So Charles thinks Trump prevented the GOP from an all out takedown of Obama (and Hillary) policies of dealing with ISIS.  Oh really?  Like how just would these GOP candidates do a "take down" of Obama that is going to win an election?

Why take Charles and other establishment types seriously I ask?

If you want to bother here is Krauthammer's brilliant logic here:



**** Why take Trump seriously?
 
Donald Trump speaks in Columbus, Ohio, on Nov. 23. (Paul Vernon/Associated Press)

By Charles Krauthammer Opinion writer December 10   

So how exactly does this work, Donald Trump’s plan to keep America safe from Islamic terrorism by barring entry to all Muslims? He explained it Tuesday on TV. The immigration official will ask the foreigner if he’s a Muslim.

“And if they said, ‘yes,’ they would not be allowed in the country?”

Trump: “That’s correct.”

Brilliant. And very economical. That is, if you think that bloodthirsty terrorists — “people that believe only in Jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life,” as Trump describes them — will feel honor-bound to tell the truth to an infidel customs officer. They kill wantonly but, like George Washington, cannot tell a lie. On this logic hinges the great Maginot Line with which Trump will protect America from jihad.

I decline to join the chorus denouncing the Trump proposal as offensive and un-American. That’s too obvious. What I can’t get over is its sheer absurdity.

Condemnation came quickly to Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump's call to ban Muslims from entering the United States. Here are some notable comments. (Gillian Brockell/The Washington Post)

[Zakaria: Trump’s views appall me not because I’m Muslim, but because I’m American]

Here’s a suggestion (borrowed from my Fox News colleague Chris Stirewalt) to shore it up. At every immigration station at every airport in America , we will demand that every potential entrant — immigrant, refugee, student or tourist — eat a bacon sandwich. You refuse? Back home you go!

True, the Stirewalt Solution casts the net a bit wide, snaring innocent vegetarians and Orthodox Jews. But hey, as Trump said Tuesday , “We’re at war — get it through your head.” Can’t get squeamish about collateral damage.

Dozens of others have already pointed out how strategically idiotic is Trump’s exclusion principle. Absent a renewed Christian crusade against radical Islam — with those fabulous Hollywood-wardrobe tunics — the war on terror will be won only in alliance with moderate Muslims. Declaring them anathema is not the best beginning to coalition-building.

To take but the most obvious example: Our closest and most effective allies on the ground in the Middle East are the Kurds. Trump would turn them back at the Orlando airport. No Disney World for them. Or does he not know that they are Muslim?

It is embarrassing even to embark on such arguments. To treat “no Muslims allowed” as a serious idea is to give credit to what is little more than a clever stunt by a man who saw Ted Cruz beating him for the first time in the Iowa Monmouth poll and five hours later decided it was time to seize the stage again.

This got the thinkers going again. National Review’s Andrew McCarthy, whom I (otherwise) hold in considerable esteem, spent 1,000 words trying to tart up the ban in constitutional and statutory livery, stressing — hilariously — that he is dealing with the Trump proposal “in its final form.” As if Trump’s barstool eruptions are painstakingly vetted, and as if anything Trump says about anything is ever final.
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump is not one to back down readily from controversial statements, and the list of those he dislikes continues to grow.

Take his Syria policy. In September, he said we should wash our hands and just let Russia fight the Islamic State. Having, I assume, been subsequently informed that Vladimir Putin’s principal interest — and target — is not the Islamic State but the anti-Assad rebels, Trump now promises to “bomb the s---” out of the Islamic State.

I’m sure there’s a Trump apologist out there working to explain the brilliant complementarity of these two contradictory strategies. Just as a few months ago there was a frenzy of learned scholarship about the constitutional history of the 14th Amendment following another Trump eruption — the abolition of birthright citizenship.

Whatever the final outcome, Trump’s campaign has already succeeded, indelibly affecting both this race and the Republican future. At a time of economic malaise at home and strategic collapse abroad, Trump has managed to steer the entire GOP campaign into absurdities, like mass deportation of 11 million illegal immigrants, and impossibilities, like the exclusion of Muslims from our shores.

“No Muslims allowed” is the perfect example. President Obama’s Oval Office address on Sunday night marked a new low in his presidency. The shopworn arguments, the detached tone, the willful denial that there might be anything wrong with his policy were deeply unsettling for left, right and center. Even the New York Times had to admit “Obama’s Plans to Stop ISIS Leave Many Democrats Wanting More,” which is Timesese for Democrats Stunned by Vacancy in the Oval Office. Here was an opportunity for the Republican field to launch an all-out takedown of the Obama (and Hillary Clinton) foreign policy.

Within less than a day, that opportunity was wiped out. Once again, it’s the Donald Show.
232  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: December 18, 2015, 07:16:45 PM
Doug writes:

"Same poll you cite shows Trump losing to Clinton by 11, Rubio leading Clinton by 2,  a 13 point difference!

I keep looking for those numbers to move against Rubio but the spread keeps widening."

This makes me think this is exactly why Rush included Rubio in the "anti" establish group with Cruz and Trump.

I have concluded this is a good idea unlike Levin who continues to diminish Rubio.
233  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Donald Trump on: December 18, 2015, 07:14:21 PM
"Economic anxiety, demographic resentment and fears for physical security make a toxic combination. Donald Trump didn’t create these sentiments. Like demagogues throughout history, he is exploiting them for his own purposes."

What does this mean, "like demagogues throughout history"

So Trump who is just saying what many people think is a "demagogue"??   What about Brock or Hillary?

Not a peep about the contribution made by this guys Wall Street friends to the hollowing out the middle class with endless paying people less and less while they wring out every dime they can from their ever enlarging companies and bringing in competition from overseas who are willing to work for less.

Remember Ford when he wanted to give every working man a "living" wage - $5/hour?

Now it is how they give every man as little as they can without almost any hope of doing better.


234  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Ancient "MMA": Pankration on: December 17, 2015, 09:06:55 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pankration
235  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Donald Trump on: December 17, 2015, 09:03:31 PM
Chelsea's dad, Web Hubbell says 50% of Republicans will flock to Hillary if Trump is the nominee.   Remember back in '08 when Bill said a "black man couldn't win" and within hours nearly the entire black vote shifted from Hillary to Brock? (except for Donna Brazille who is on the payroll)

That could happen here too.   Dems laughing that 50% of Republicans will switch and vote for Hillary?  May instead piss them off to vote for the nominee, Trump Cruz or Rubs.

236  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Donald Trump on: December 17, 2015, 02:38:32 PM
"Rockefeller Republican"

Even LBJ preferred Nelson over Humphrey according to Califano's book.  

Amazing huh?

W's self description was "compassionate" conservative.   Now Christie Todd Whitman calls herself a fiscal conservative (which she was not) and "socially tolerant".

All this implies that real conservatives were not socially tolerant or compassionate.  They want to keep down the masses for their rich friends.  

These Republicans do more to shoot themselves in the heart than any Cruz's, Trumps, Carsons, IMHO

They are like the hypocrites of the left.  Just look at Buffett, Gates, and the newbie world leader Zuckerberg.  The former two spent their lives living working capitalism to their advantage with remarkable success.  Gates in particular robbed and lied as much as any of them with his scorched Earth tricks.  Oh but now capitalism is bad and we should all buckle down for mankind.
237  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Pathological Science on: December 17, 2015, 02:32:34 PM
One half of the Greenland ice sheet has melted this year!?   

http://news.yahoo.com/arctic-temperatures-rising-breakneck-speed-155146987.html
238  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: December 17, 2015, 10:17:43 AM
We know Clinton will have all the answers and responses for every single possibility all written down just like the flowchart guidelines we see in medical care.   But frequently issues turn up that don't fit neatly into the flow in medical care and neither do political campaigns.

The one thing I do really like in Trump is when he says he will not discuss certain policy issues with regard to Isis etc.  He reasonably asks why should he tip off his enemy his every move?

He and any other  Republican candidate would do well to do the same when dealing with the Democratic criminal.   She and her mob cannot know in advance what the opposition is doing (though of course bribing for inside information must always be going on like on Wall St etc) so as to throw Hillary off.  We know she cannot think on her feet.  She freezes like a deer in headlights when she is surprised.  Too afraid of saying anything.   
239  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: December 17, 2015, 10:03:56 AM
"Underestimate her candidacy at your own peril."

I agree.

The entire left coalition is behind her including the minorities, media, educational class, unions, and the droves of people they keep letting into this country.

Nothing will get in their way.



240  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: December 17, 2015, 08:09:24 AM
Yup.
241  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Venezuela on: December 17, 2015, 07:55:48 AM
Yes Gilder is brilliant.   He saw the wave coming.   But no one can predict when it will crash against the rocks and what will rise up from the debris.

242  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Ex governor Christine Todd Whitman on: December 16, 2015, 11:26:36 PM
Wants to take the party back to what?  Jeb Bush?  The party of full retreat.  The party of insiders, rich, and compromisers? 

****Christine Todd Whitman..... is also co-chair of the Republican Leadership Council, which she founded with Sen. John Danforth and Lt. Gov. Michael Steele. The RLC’s mission is to support fiscally conservative, socially tolerant candidates and to reclaim the word Republican.****

I reject this notion of a fiscally conservative, socially tolerant candidate.  One cannot be both.  By the way Whitman was not fiscally conservative.  She raided the pension fund which is now in dire straits in NJ.
So now and Danforth and the way overrated Michael Steele are criticizing the core Republicans for rejecting establishment Republicans?   She was a lousy governor.  So she can go back to her money making insider "Whitman Strategy Group".

Her profile:


Arena Profile:Ex-Gov. Christine Todd Whitman
Ex-Gov. Christine Todd Whitman

Christine Todd Whitman is the president of The Whitman Strategy Group, a consulting firm that specializes in energy and environmental issues. WSG offers a comprehensive set of solutions to problems facing businesses, organizations, and governments; they have been at the forefront of helping leading companies find innovative solutions to environmental challenges.

 She is also co-chair of the Republican Leadership Council, which she founded with Sen. John Danforth and Lt. Gov. Michael Steele. The RLC’s mission is to support fiscally conservative, socially tolerant candidates and to reclaim the word Republican. The RLC was created in March of 2007 by joining forces with Governor Whitman’s political action committee, It’s My Party Too. She is the author of a New York Times best seller by the same name, which was published in January of 2005 and released in paperback in March 2006.

 Governor Whitman served in the cabinet of President George W. Bush as Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency from January of 2001 until June of 2003. She was the 50th Governor of the State of New Jersey, serving as its first woman governor from 1994 until 2001.

 As Governor, Christie Whitman earned praise from both Republicans and Democrats for her commitment to preserve a record amount of New Jersey land as permanent green space. She was also recognized by the Natural Resources Defense Council for instituting the most comprehensive beach monitoring system in the nation. As EPA Administrator, she promoted common-sense environmental improvements such as watershed-based water protection policies. She championed regulations requiring non-road diesel engines to reduce sulfur emissions by more than 95 percent. She also established the first federal program to promote redevelopment and reuse of "brownfields", that is, previously contaminated industrial sites.

 Governor Whitman is on the steering committee of The Cancer Institute of New Jersey; the Board of Trustees of the Eisenhower Fellowships; the Board of Directors of the Council on Foreign Relations; the Governing Board of the Park City Center for Public Policy; and is a member of the Board of the New America Foundation. She was also the Co-Chair for the Council on Foreign Relations’ Task Force, More Than Humanitarianism: A Strategic U.S. Approach Toward Africa as well as the Aspen Health Stewardship Project, which was released in February of 2008. She co-chairs Clean and Safe Energy with Dr. Patrick Moore.

 Governor Whitman also serves on the board of directors of S.C. Johnson and Son, Inc., Texas Instruments Inc., and United Technologies Corporation. She currently serves as an advisor to the Aspen Rodel Fellowship program.

 Prior to becoming governor, she was president of the New Jersey Board of Public Utilities and served on the Somerset County Board of Chosen Freeholders.

 Governor Whitman holds a BA from Wheaton College in Norton, Mass., and is married to John R. Whitman. They have two children and two grandchildren.

(Photo by AP)

243  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Roman tactics on: December 16, 2015, 10:52:44 PM
A good video on the Roman legion and how it is believed to have been used at least for a time in Roman history.  Includes the scene out of the Douglas/Kubrick Spartacus' movie showing the approaching Roman juggernaut.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ndh3b9wC-A0
244  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Venezuela on: December 16, 2015, 10:45:43 PM
"Corruption, corruption everywhere."

Denny,

Do you still invest in stocks?   I recall you had a lot of good recommendations back in the Gilder days.


245  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: December 16, 2015, 11:29:42 AM
" It means for one thing Rubio is not feeling desperate - like Bush."

Bush should really bow out and either return all the money  to his investors before he wastes it all.

Or give it to charity.  Why waste it on the MSM for ads and marketing.

Or send me a check  smiley

The Bush's need to wake up and smell the coffee.  
246  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: December 16, 2015, 09:12:23 AM
Doug writes:

"Conclusion:   Nothing changed.  All the same dynamics we have discussed govern this race."

That is why I didn't even bother watching the debate.  I have seen enough.  We know their strengths and weaknesses.

Bottom line for me is who can beat Hillary. 

The 'Get on Up' movie of James Brown was better than I thought it would be.   I never much cared for his music but he sure could sing and dance.   Much more entertaining than the debate. 
247  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Doctors busy telling us how to live on: December 14, 2015, 07:12:21 PM
I don't recall physician organizations that are fronts for every major liberal policy agenda before but here is another one.

From climate change, to guns, to fracking, to planned parenthood.  You name it:

http://npalliance.org/blog/2015/10/04/upcoming-amsa-npa-webinar-physician-gag-laws-surrounding-fracking-industry/
248  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Pledge of allegiance banned by school principal on: December 14, 2015, 09:19:23 AM
A PUBLIC school principal has the power to do this?:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/13/radical-school-principal-bans-pledge-of-allegience-christmas-thanksgiving/
249  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: December 14, 2015, 08:07:50 AM
Hypothetical if this poll is true I would have to vote for Cruz.  He is not my first choice but he is acceptable.  Hillary is not.  I would MUCH rather have him and be more confident in keeping the crook out:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/poll-clinton-would-sail-to-win-over-trump/ar-BBnwdK8?li=BBnb7Kz
250  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / entertainment on: December 13, 2015, 09:12:51 PM
Beiber is one lucky guy.  What is that Hebrew word on his torso:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/6800844/Brit-model-reveals-all-about-threesome-with-Justin-Bieber.html
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