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2851  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Issues in the American Creed (Constitutional Law and related matters) on: March 22, 2010, 05:15:37 PM
Hi Doug,
Good to see you back on the board.
Great synopsis of what lies ahead from the Judicial side.
Thanks,ccp
2852  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants on: March 22, 2010, 09:45:49 AM
"6) The Race/Class/Gender Cult: This federal caring creed trumps all religion. We will hear thousands of homophobic, racist, sexist anecdotes (but not those from a Ruth Ginsberg, or Harry Reid, or Joe Biden) that remind us why the government must enforce diversity set-asides and affirmative actions, and fund new sociological studies proving why group X hates group Y, and why government bureau Z is fighting X on behalf of Y for all our benefit. We are in perpetual war with perpetual ologies and –isms and we need far more Van Joneses to win them!"

Yes.  We all heard over the msm how one or two "Tea Party" people called some minorities a bad name.  The "N" word.  The "F" word.
And of course this is really what they want us to think it is about.  Those opposed are just a bunch of racists afterall.

There is no question if there were a thousand protesters the media would interview the ONE or TWO that used the N word (I am even afraid to use it in this context on this board lest my life be ruined) and that would make the news.

I've seen first hand how the MSM do this all the time.  Particularly when it fits a left wing agenda.
2853  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants on: March 22, 2010, 09:19:23 AM
Couldn't have said it better.
Except Mr Hanson leaves out the coming immigration amnesty which will bring us 20 million new voters the vast majority are going to vote for, let me see, I couldn't imagine.

Could it be they will vote for the res of us to pay for their benefits -excuse me - entitlements?

I really do believe this is our last stand.
2854  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / next on: March 22, 2010, 06:08:06 AM
Are we now going to see:
immigration amnesty (camouflagued (sp?) as reform).
college "entitlement" reform
and of course cap and trade?

Some say we won't see any of this this year.

I predict they are all on the table and ASAP.  In fact these items will be addressed immediately before there is a chance the Dems lose a house in Nov. in my opinion.

My prediction for the present health care policies.  They will only increase costs necessitating progressively more government "fixes" till eventually we are where the radicals want to be - a totally government controlled system with rationed care. 

It is obvious isn't it?


2855  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Israel, and its neighbors on: March 21, 2010, 02:00:55 PM
THE US was angry. Israel gets it. Netanyahu didn’t want to freeze building in Jerusalem last year, and he doesn’t want to this year, and Washington saw an opportunity to now force him to do so."

This is what I think.  This was an opportunity for Bama to stick it to Israel.  Someone was on Zakaria today opposing Mort Zuckerman and complaining that Netanyahu is not serious about peace with the Palestinians and is putting the Iranian threat ahead of peace.   Really?  Well I can't think of a single reason why he might do that if true?  Can anyone think of why he might consider Iran a bigger threat at this time? 

And like he does every week Zakaria thanks everyone for coming on his show and essentially, as always comes down as supporting the Bama'a decidedly biased anti-Israel's slant.
2856  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Just pass the bill and we will then find out what's in it!Including the Phoney 1 on: March 19, 2010, 11:43:21 AM
OPINION: DECLARATIONS MARCH 18, 2010, 6:58 P.M. ET Now for the Slaughter On the road to Demon Pass, our leader encounters a Baier.By PEGGY NOONAN

Excuse me, but it is embarrassing—really, embarrassing to our country—that the president of the United States has again put off a state visit to Australia and Indonesia because he's having trouble passing a piece of domestic legislation he's been promising for a year will be passed next week. What an air of chaos this signals to the world. And to do this to Australia of all countries, a nation that has always had America's back and been America's friend.

How bush league, how undisciplined, how kid's stuff.

You could see the startled looks on the faces of reporters as Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, who had the grace to look embarrassed, made the announcement on Thursday afternoon. The president "regrets the delay"—the trip is rescheduled for June—but "passage of the health insurance reform is of paramount importance." Indonesia must be glad to know it's not.

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 The reporters didn't even provoke or needle in their questions. They seemed hushed. They looked like people who were absorbing the information that we all seem to be absorbing, which is that the wheels seem to be coming off this thing, the administration is wobbling—so early, so painfully and dangerously soon.

Thursday's decision followed the most revealing and important broadcast interview of Barack Obama ever. It revealed his primary weakness in speaking of health care, which is a tendency to dodge, obfuscate and mislead. He grows testy when challenged. It revealed what the president doesn't want revealed, which is that he doesn't want to reveal much about his plan. This furtiveness is not helpful in a time of high public anxiety. At any rate, the interview was what such interviews rarely are, a public service. That it occurred at a high-stakes time, with so much on the line, only made it more electric.

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I'm speaking of the interview Wednesday on Fox News Channel's "Special Report With Bret Baier." Fox is owned by News Corp., which also owns this newspaper, so one should probably take pains to demonstrate that one is attempting to speak with disinterest and impartiality, in pursuit of which let me note that Glenn Beck has long appeared to be insane.

That having been said, the Baier interview was something, and right from the beginning. Mr. Baier's first question was whether the president supports the so-called Slaughter rule, alternatively known as "deem and pass," which would avoid a straight up-or-down House vote on the Senate bill. (Tunku Varadarajan in the Daily Beast cleverly notes that it sounds like "demon pass," which it does. Maybe that's the juncture we're at.) Mr. Obama, in his response, made the usual case for ObamaCare. Mr. Baier pressed him. The president said, "The vote that's taken in the House will be a vote for health-care reform." We shouldn't, he added, concern ourselves with "the procedural issues."

Further in, Mr. Baier: "So you support the deem-and-pass rule?" From the president, obfuscation. But he did mention something new: "They may have to sequence the votes." The bill's opponents would be well advised to look into that one.

Mr. Baier again: So you'll go deem-and-pass and you don't know exactly what will be in the bill?

Mr. Obama's response: "By the time the vote has taken place, not only will I know what's in it, you'll know what's in it, because it's going to be posted and everybody's going to be able to evaluate it on the merits."

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 That's news in two ways. That it will be posted—one assumes the president means on the Internet and not nailed to a telephone pole—should suggest it will be posted for a while, more than a few hours or days. So American will finally get a look at it. And the president was conceding that no, he doesn't know what's in the bill right now. It is still amazing that one year into the debate this could be true.

Mr. Baier pressed on the public's right to know what is in the bill. We have been debating the bill for a year, the president responded: "The notion that this has been not transparent, that people don't know what's in the bill, everybody knows what's in the bill. I sat for seven hours with—."

Mr. Baier interrupts: "Mr. President, you couldn't tell me what the special deals are that are in or not today."

Mr. Obama: "I just told you what was in and what was not in."

Mr. Baier: "Is Connecticut in?" He was referring to the blandishments—polite word—meant to buy the votes of particular senators.

Mr. Obama: "Connecticut—what are you specifically referring to?"

Mr. Baier: "The $100 million for the hospital? Is Montana in for the asbestos program? Is—you know, listen, there are people—this is real money, people are worried about this stuff."

Mr. Obama: "And as I said before, this—the final provisions are going to be posted for many days before this thing passes."

Mr. Baier pressed the president on his statement as a candidate for the presidency that a 50-plus-one governing mentality is inherently divisive. "You can't govern" that way, Sen. Obama had said. Is the president governing that way now? Mr. Obama did not really answer.

Throughout, Mr. Baier pressed the president. Some thought this bordered on impertinence. I did not. Mr. Obama now routinely filibusters in interviews. He has his message, and he presses it forward smoothly, adroitly. He buries you in words. Are you worried what failure of the bill will do to you? I'm worried about what the status quo will do to the families that are uninsured . . .

Mr. Baier forced him off his well-worn grooves. He did it by stopping long answers with short questions, by cutting off and redirecting. In this he was like a low-speed bumper car. In the end the interview seemed to me a public service because everyone in America right now wants to see the president forced off his grooves and into candor on an issue that involves 17% of the economy. Again, the stakes are high. So Mr. Baier's style seemed—this is admittedly subjective—not rude but within the bounds, and not driven by the antic spirit that sometimes overtakes reporters. He seemed to be trying to get new information. He seemed to be attempting to better inform the public.

Presidents have a right to certain prerogatives, including the expectation of a certain deference. He's the president, this is history. But we seem to have come a long way since Ronald Reagan was regularly barked at by Sam Donaldson, almost literally, and the president shrugged it off. The president—every president—works for us. We don't work for him. We sometimes lose track of this, or rather get the balance wrong. Respect is due and must be palpable, but now and then you have to press, to either force them to be forthcoming or force them to reveal that they won't be. Either way it's revealing.

And so it ends, with a health-care vote expected this weekend. I wonder at what point the administration will realize it wasn't worth it—worth the discord, worth the diminution in popularity and prestige, worth the deepening of the great divide. What has been lost is so vivid, what has been gained so amorphous, blurry and likely illusory. Memo to future presidents: Never stake your entire survival on the painful passing of a bad bill. Never take the country down the road to Demon Pass.

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2857  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Israel, and its neighbors on: March 17, 2010, 10:25:21 AM
"The US sees an opportunity in the Ramat Shlomo crisis to convey to the unloved Netanyahu the fateful, urgent choice he faces."

This echoes my thought:

"The settlement thing is now being exaggerated into a "crises" and I believe it is an excuse to start Bama's real plan to withdraw support for Israel."

The WH is jumping all over this building of 1200 homes as an excuse to stick it to Netanyahu.

It is clear the US will not be there militarily for Israel when push comes to shove.  It is decided that miliatry force will not be used under any circumstances.  If Israel is going to attack Iran they will have to do it alone.

As an American I am not sure I could argue that it is really in the interests of the US to start a war with Iran to a degree worth the risks and consequences.  The benefits are far more for Israel then to us.  Even with claims of a nuclear Iran is a menace to the world acknowledged and agreed to by me.

As a Jew it is also clear Iran means what it says when the Mullahs have plans to murder all the Jews into the ocean.

And therefore as a Jew it is a fight for our lives.

Shame on American Jews who have turned their backs on their bretheren for political idealogy - and support of a person who has an obvious agenda that is NOT in Israel's best interests.  I don't know if the liberal Jews who STILL support the phoney one are in denial, or are still duped, or simply prefer to put American interests including their radical liberal agenda ahead of Israel.  I guess it is a combination.  How can they believe the Phoney One is really commited to protecting Israel?  Or are they duped into thinking a policy of containment  can work here?

I have not heard any credible threats on our part pointed directly to the Mullahs that if they use nucs on Israel We will respond in kind but 100 fold.  THAT is the concept of "mutually assured destruction" that worked in the US-Soviet cold war.

Vague mentions that "no opiton(s)" are taken off the table are not clear and definitive as a threat to Iran.

If the phone ONE was clear about his intention of protecting Israel, that is the least he could do.  Send a clear message to the Persians that if you use any weapons of mass destruction on Israel they will pay dearly with many lives.

But alas he is only playing the American Jews for their votes.
2858  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Legal Issues created by the War with Islamic Fascism on: March 16, 2010, 11:08:39 AM
Crafty,

Thanks for your opinion.  I have respect for some attornies.  The medical profession is hardly filled with a total bunch of saints so I don't mean to come off as simply going after attornies.

I don't think we exemplify a system that is a model of a totally fair and great justice process as much as simply *stupid* and laughable to anyone with a brain when we send armies of attornies to defend enemies that even the vast majority of our own citizens could not even AFFORD.

Again, the sheer stupidity of it all...  So let's give our enemies who want to kill us better legal counsel than 95% of our own people could not even afford!?!?

Palin said it right during her RNC speech for VP.  We don't need to defend our nation with legal suits (more or less).
2859  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Israel, and its neighbors on: March 16, 2010, 09:54:42 AM
I remember the uproar from the American Jewish "community when James Baker came out with some remarks that hinted at subtle anti-semitic tone.  Now the phoney one is doing it many Jews are silent.  Indeed we have Time Magazine's Tom Friedman on cable criticizing Israel.  As I've said many liberal Jews are more interested in the Dem party.  The settlement thing is now being exaggerated into a "crises" and I believe it is an excuse to start Bama's real plan to withdraw support for Israel.  I recall the picture of him at the Western Wall, yamukah on.  It appeared he was not comfortable playing Jew.  And of course the Americal lib Jews were so fast to point to this as evidence of his commitment to Israel.  What a joke.  This guy sat in an anti semite's church for a quarter of a century and to no one's knowledge ever spoke up about it.

He uses Jews to further his political career. And we have Farrakan claiming it is the White Right and the Jews who are going to try to make him a one term Pres.  Why, without a doubt, if it where not for the support and help ful strategizing by Jews who supported the phoney one - he would never have ever become President.  How ironic.  He treats Israel (do as I say or else) like he treats Americans.

****Obama runs out of patience with Israel

Settlement issue provokes 'biggest crisis in relations for 35 years'

By Donald Macintyre in Jerusalem and Hugh MacLeod in Doha


Tuesday, 16 March 2010
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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, addresses the Knesset in Jerusalem yesterday. He rejected a total freeze on the building of Israeli settlements

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The Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu yesterday strongly defended Jewish settlement construction in East Jerusalem in the face of US pressure and what one of his own top diplomats described as the worst crisis in relations with Washington for more than three decades.


A defiant Mr Netanyahu appeared to be digging in despite clear indications that the Obama administration is now demanding the scrapping of plans for 1,600 new Jewish homes, whose announcement overshadowed last week's visit to Israel by the US Vice-President Joe Biden. Mr Netanyahu's stance appeared to guarantee, after a highly charged week, the protraction of a stand-off in which a full-scale diplomatic row blew up at the start of Mr Biden's visit and appeared to abate at the end of it. But it was then reignited by demands from Hillary Clinton and an angry White House that Israel make amends for the "insulting" announcement just as indirect negotiations with the Palestinians had finally been arranged.

The US is now said to be demanding substantive concessions from Israel after a warning by the Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas that he would not take part in talks if the plan to expand the mainly ultra-orthodox Ramat Shlomo settlement went ahead. The row has appeared finally to bring to a head the year-long tensions between the two governments since Barack Obama tried in vain to persuade the Israeli Prime Minister to agree to a total settlement freeze. He was thwarted by Mr Netanyahu who agreed only to a partial 10-month freeze, which did not include East Jerusalem.

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The Israeli Prime Minister insisted yesterday that construction would continue "in the same way as has been customary over the last 42 years". He added: "The building of those Jewish neighbourhoods in no way hurt the Arabs of East Jerusalem and did not come at their expense."

But a prominent Fatah figure and former Palestinian foreign minister, Nabil Shaath, told The Independent that the prospect of talks resuming had been sabotaged by Israel's action. Speaking in Qatar yesterday ahead of reconciliation talks with Hamas, which governs Gaza, he added: "The speed at which Jerusalem is being Judaised and de-Arabised has surpassed any period in the history of the peace process and is so alarming that we cannot possibly continue giving cover to Mr Netanyahu that we are still negotiating while he is doing this."

Mr Netanyahu avoided direct reference to the plans at the heart of the row for expanding the Ramat Shlomo settlement. But the Prime Minister, who has apologised for the timing of last week's announcement, showed no sign of abandoning it altogether.

There was no official confirmation of reports in the Israeli press that the US was also demanding other measures, including an early release of Palestinian prisoners and a clear Israeli promise that talks, if and when they begin, would genuinely deal with the core issues between the two sides: borders, Palestinian refugees, and the future of Jerusalem. Palestinians want East Jerusalem as the capital of a future state.

The Israeli newspaper Haaretz and Israeli Army Radio reported meanwhile that in a conference call with Israeli consuls across the US on Saturday night, Michael Oren, Israel's Ambassador to Washington, said that the crisis was one of "historic proportions". Summoned to the State Department on Friday, he reportedly urged the consuls, on instructions "from the highest level", to lobby Congress, Jewish community groups and the media to make Israel's case. Mr Oren, a historian, apparently recalled a previous stand-off in 1975 between Henry Kissinger and the then Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin over US demands in the aftermath of the Yom Kippur war for a partial withdrawal from the Sinai.

One explanation canvassed in Israel for Washington's tough stance is that pressure is being exerted by the US military for early progress in solving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as means of reducing Muslim hostility to the US. During the height of the row last week, Mr Biden was reported by Yedhiot Ahronot to have told Mr Netanyahu: "What you're doing here undermines the security of our troops who are fighting in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. That endangers us and it endangers regional peace."

Asked on Sunday whether Israeli "intransigence" was putting US "troops' lives at risk", David Axelrod, a senior adviser to Mr Obama, said "that region and that issue is a flare point throughout the region so I'm not going to put it in those terms". But he then added that it "was absolutely imperative" not only for "the security of Israel and the Palestinian people2 but "for our own security that ... we resolve this very difficult issue".

Mr Netanyahu can at least expect a warm reception in Washington when next week he addresses the annual conference of AIPAC, the staunchly right-of-centre pro-Israel lobby group which is trying to mobilise opposition to the stance taken by Mrs Clinton and Mr Obama.

Jerusalem remained tense yesterday, with hundreds of police deployed around the Old City for a fourth day in case of Palestinian unrest, including a possible protest against the rededication of a synagogue in the Jewish Quarter destroyed in the 1948 war. A closure of the West Bank to prevent most Palestinians reaching the city was also still in force.

Dozens of young men burned tyres and threw stones at Israeli forces at the Qalandiya checkpoint north of Jerusalem. Palestinian medics said one Palestinian youth was shot in the jaw and another in the chest as troops dispersed protesters.*****
2860  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / correction on: March 15, 2010, 11:59:31 AM
high priced and high "powered"

Yes I get that much of the work was done - what is the phrase - bono?

Although it is hared to beleive that some of this what not done for some sort of networking advantage either with the gov. or amongst law firms or something else I don't know about such as political gain.

2861  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Legal Issues created by the War with Islamic Fascism on: March 15, 2010, 11:55:58 AM
***The public has a right to know, for instance, that one of Mr. Holder's early political hires in the department's national security division was Jennifer Daskal, a former attorney for Human Rights Watch. Her work there centered on efforts to close Guantanamo Bay, shut down military commissions—which she calls "kangaroo courts"—and set detainees who cannot be tried in civilian courts free. She has written that freeing dangerous terrorists is an "assumption of risk" that we must take in order to cleanse the nation of Guantanamo's moral stain. This suggests that Ms. Daskal, who serves on the Justice Department's Detainee Policy Task Force, is entirely in sync with Mr. Holder and a White House whose chief counterterrorism official (John Brennan) considers a 20% detainee recidivism rate "not that bad."***

I hear the legal arguments on cable back and forth concerning Liz Cheney's views etc.
I don't think one needs to be an attorney to understand the reasoning of the arguments one way or the other.
That said I don't think "justice" is served with having endless streams of high priced and high priced attorneys argue ad nauseum every conceivable position as some sort of defense.
I cannot believe most Americans would not agree that the legal strategy can be reduced to a form of bullying adverseries for money or political or other form of idealogy.

I also beleive that most Americans would agree this legaleeze stuff is a form of weakness on our battle against our enemies - not a strenght as the left wants us to beleive.

Crafty, as an attorney where do you  come down on this issue?
2862  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Israel, and its neighbors on: March 14, 2010, 03:30:58 PM
   
While stuck in NE traffic today Aaron Klein (sp?) had on his radio show Mr Yousef.  He worked as a spy for Israel because he wanted to save not just Jewish lives but Palestinian lives.  This is the key for him:

 “The problem is not Hamas, the problem is not people. The root of the problem is Islam itself as an idea,” he added. He said he saw no chance for Israel and the PA to make peace."

He converted to Christianity because he feels the God of Islam is the root cause of the problems with the Muslims.  He quotes from the Koran how it is a command from their God that all infidels, Jews, Christains, and others should be sought out and killed.  He states this is a false God.  Those that have this in their heart can never make peace, they will never let go with their hatred, and will end up killing themselves as well as others.  He also could not accept how Hamas would torture and murder anyone it suspected of "collaborating" with Israel.  He came to the conclusion that torture at the hands of Hamas is as bad as torture at the hands of Israeli soldiers or anyone else for that matter.  He also agrees his father would have to wnat him killed in order to restore his honor.
It was an amazing interview.

Are you listening Barack Hussain Obama?

 **** Published: 02/24/10, 5:33 PM / Last Update: 02/24/10, 6:06 PM
Son of Hamas Leader was Top Spy for Israel
 
by Gil Ronen
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(IsraelNN.com) Mosab Hassan Yousef, son of jailed Hamas terrorist leader Sheikh Hassan Yousef, operated undercover in the service of Israel's intelligence agency for a decade. Yousef reveals this information in an upcoming book, and in an interview with Israeli newspaper Haaretz to be published this weekend.

According to the newspaper, the intelligence Yousef supplied led to the arrests of several high-ranking terrorists including Ibrahim Hamid, a Hamas terror commander in Judea and Samaria, as well as Fatah strongman Marwan Barghouti and Hamas bomb-maker Abdullah Barghouti.

Mosab Hassan Yousef converted to Christianity and moved to the U.S. in 2007, where the book he co-wrote, Son of Hamas, is due to be published shortly. He said that after he converted to Christianity, he decided he had to escape and "live my life away from violence, because I couldn't coexist with that situation as a Christian."

"He provided very important information [as did] hundreds of others fighting against terror," MK Gideon Ezra (Kadima), formerly deputy chief of the Israel Security Agency (Shin Bet), told BBC World Service.

Haaretz said that Yousef “was considered Shin Bet's most reliable source in the Hamas leadership.”

"The amazing thing is that none of his actions were done for money," said his ISA handler, who is named in the book as "Captain Loai.”

Yousef's father, who has great influence within Hamas, was elected to the Palestinian Legislative Council in January 2006 from his prison cell.

Appalled by Torture
Yousef has said that from an early age he was appalled by the brutality of the Hamas movement. "Hamas, they are using civilians' lives, they are using children, they are using the suffering of people every day to achieve their goals. And this is what I hate," he said.

In an interview with Fox News in 2008, Yousef said that when he was 18 years old, he was arrested and placed in an Israeli jail. “Hamas had control of its members inside the jail and I saw their torture; [they were] torturing people in a very, very bad way... Hamas leaders that we see on TV now, and big leaders, [were] responsible for torturing their own members. They didn't torture me, but that was a shock for me, to see them torturing people: putting needles under their nails, burning their bodies. And they killed lots of them... I was a witness for about a year for this torture. So that was a huge change in my life.”

"Islam is the Problem"
“The problem is not Hamas, the problem is not people. The root of the problem is Islam itself as an idea,” he added. He said he saw no chance for Israel and the PA to make peace.****


2863  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: March 14, 2010, 03:21:07 PM
I agree.  Good argument.  It sums up the idea of taxation to pay for "entitlement" programs to a tee.
Of course the counter argument would be that all of us could some day be in a position of "needing" some form of assistance.
Or that we are only forced to pay what we "can".
The final fall back position of course the moral arugment that we need to help those in "need".
But as you point out WW turns the moral argument (and in my opinion rightly so) inside out by concluding it is immoral to force many to work as virtual slaves for the rest.
2864  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: U.S. Census 2010 on: March 12, 2010, 04:37:18 PM
'In response, some plan to answer the race question with "American."'

Maybe *legal United States* American is more appropriate. (vs. illegal, vs. North American, vs Central or S. American.)
2865  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Glen Beck on: March 11, 2010, 02:12:29 PM
Time magazine aleady had a hit piece on GB saying this interview with Massa is the beginning of the end for Beck - wishful thinking in my opinion.  There are two books coming out - most likely left wing zealot hit pieces.  I am not sure the MSM in its efforts to destroy Beck understand the phenomenon surrouding him is not about him - it is what he represents.

IMO they will not take him down so easily. 

Thank God for courageous fellows like him.

There are a lot of Americans behind him.  And we are not going away.
2866  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: March 08, 2010, 02:15:47 PM
"Dr. Donaldson is a Pediatric Otolaryngologist in Fort Myers, Florida. He is the immediate past Chairman of the Board of Directors of Lee Memorial Health System"

Interesting.  I may have met this guy.  Years back I interviewed for a position with the Lee Mem. system in Ft. Myers.
I can't recall for sure the name but I remember some administrator there who interviewed me and he was a pediatrician.  If you like hot weather and to fish, the Ft. Myers area is nice.

"The next step will be complete absorption of the providers into global budgeting, mandated participation, and salaried positions. With this will come rationing and waiting lists. Even Obama cannot break the symbolic medical bread and wine to save the health care system on his current course."

Well yes, THIS IS the goal of the academic elites with the Phoney One leading the charge.  The present bill is just the next of many steps towards that end.



2867  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / "Tom Delay: People Are Unemployed Because They Want To Be" on: March 08, 2010, 11:11:30 AM
I wonder to what extent this is true.   Certainly there are people who are on unemployment because it is easier and more convenient then other alternatives.  To deny human nature is a big lie.  I had at lease one patient tell me he had a job offer but it was far from home and therefore by the time he accounted for the extra cost of travel he may as well stay home and collect.

Of course. If I could make just as much sitting at home collecting a check as I could get *working*, which do you think I would choose to do?

Why is it we can't just state the obvious?

Doles are cancers that just keep spreading.

Of course the phoney outrage from the left including this Huffington post. 

****Tom Delay: People Are Unemployed Because They Want To Be
          Former House Majority Leader Tom Delay called Sen. Jim Bunning (R-Ky.) "brave" on Sunday for launching a one-man filibuster of unemployment benefits, arguing that they dissuaded people from going out and finding work.

Appearing on CNN's "State of the Union," the Texas Republican said that Bunning's fiscal responsibility was commendable, even if his shenanigans (refusing to allow unemployment benefits to be considered by unanimous consent) nearly brought the Senate to a halt.

"Nothing would have happened if the Democrats had just paid for [the benefits]," Delay said. "People would have gotten their unemployment compensation. I think Bunning was brave in standing up there and taking it on by himself."

Asked whether it was bad strategy to make a budget stand on a $10 billion extension of unemployment (as opposed to, say, the Bush's $720 billion prescription drug package), Delay insisted that if the PR had been done right, Bunning would have been applauded. Helping the unemployed with federal assistance, he said, was unsound policy.

"You know," Delay said, "there is an argument to be made that these extensions, the unemployment benefits keeps people from going and finding jobs. In fact there are some studies that have been done that show people stay on unemployment compensation and they don't look for a job until two or three weeks before they know the benefits are going to run out.

Host Candy Crowley: Congressman, that's a hard sell, isn't it?

Delay: it's the truth.

Crowley: People are unemployed because they want to be?

Delay: well, it is the truth. and people in the real world know it. And they have friends and they know it. Sure, we ought to be helping people that are unemployed find a job, but we also have budget considerations that are incredibly important, especially now that Obama is spending monies that we don't have.****
2868  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iran on: March 08, 2010, 09:39:27 AM
"That Bill Clinton?"

Your riight.  I guess it is natural that I used to think every time it can't get worse then the Clintons we now have the "Phoney ONE".

As much as Clinton was/is a total dishonest liberal I still never thought he was some sort of manifestion of an American hating Communist.

2869  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iran on: March 07, 2010, 02:35:28 PM
Agreed.  Now on Drudge Iran is reporting they have cruise missles now.

In my living room and in my amatuer opinion the only way Israel can stop them is to use nuclear weapons.

There is no reason not to take the Mullahs at their word that they mean what they say about wiping the Jews out of Israel.

Thinking it through the potential consequences are horrendous, and yes will lead to another 1000 years of Muslim revenge.  That said the only other option is for the Jews in Israel to await their own deaths.

Because of inaction over the years the only way to stop the proliferation of nuclear weapons by rogues is to use nuclear weapons.

And as noted before my impression, is that the US has already decided against such a move and is now thinking some sort of containment.  But containment can't work.  Isn't that obvious?

If I wasn't born a Jew would I actually think the US should bomb Iran with nucs or otherwise to save Israel?

Could I expect the goyam to do that for us? 

I don't know.

I wonder what Clinton would have done.  Hillary talks a bit tougher than the phoney One.  Yet clearly she works for him and has to be constrained by his policies.  Just wondering out loud.  As much as I dislike Hill/Bill I don't beleive that either could have been nearly as bad as this guy.

The billboard sign out West that portrayed W with the words, "miss me yet" could (bite my tongue) even be applied by me for Bill.

2870  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Romney on Health Care on: March 07, 2010, 02:20:08 PM
Romney interview by Chris Wallace this AM.  In general, I like his message about promoting the greatness of America not talking it down like the present guy at the top. 

With regard to the topic of health care,

His responses to the charge that the health plan he signed in Mass makes him the wrong guy to be a spokesperson for the Repubs on the issue were totally unconvincing.  He danced around the charge that Mass health premiums are 27% higher than anywhere else in the nation.  He claimed that the cahrge there is a multimillion dollar cost *overshoot* in the allowed annual budget for health care was wrong and it was the opposite.

He keeps saying that 98% of the people in Mass are insured and he brings up again the person with brain cancer who, if resided in another state would have died for lack of insurance.  Here in NJ there are poeple without insurance who undoubtedly cannot get decent routine care for chronic conditions but I know of no person with cancer that cannot somehow get coverage, charity care, medicaid, or help from the community, churches, Jewish charity organizations, etc.

He also claims that there is no free lunch.  Everyone pays into the system.  Yet he failed to explain that or go into any detail.

In conclusion - I agree with critics on the health care debate - he is absolutely the wrong guy to be a spokesperson for it on a national level.

2871  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / just a matter of time on: March 06, 2010, 02:12:33 PM
Till we start to see the same here.  I have a feeling the guy at the Pentagon is only just for starters.

***Violent protests hit Greece as German backing sought
Mar 5 10:03 AM US/Eastern

Greek police clashed with demonstrators protesting sweeping budget cuts Friday as the government sought support from Germany to help it avoid default, only to be told not to expect a single cent.
Police fired tear gas after a union leader was struck and hurt by youths, an AFP reporter on the scene said, during protests against sweeping new budget and spending cuts announced Wednesday.

The violence erupted as Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou was to meet German Chancellor Angela Merkel later Friday, with Germany critical to any eurozone effort to help Greece restore its market credibility and already signalling it was not prepared to offer financial assistance.

Parliament meanwhile approved the budget and spending cuts worth 4.8 billion euros (6.5 billion dollars) announced by Papandreou on Wednesday as he sought to secure EU backing.

Papandreou told Germany's Frankfurter Allgemeine newspaper he was "not asking for money" but other forms of support.

Greek aid "unnecessary"

"We need support from the European Union and our partners to obtain credit on the markets at better conditions. If we do not receive this aid, we will not be able to enact the changes we foresee."

But speaking ahead of the Merkel-Papandreou talks, Germany's Economy Minister Rainer Bruederle said Berlin would not provide Greece with "one cent."

"Papandreou said that he didn't want one cent -- in any case the German government will not give one cent," Bruederle told reporters.

Luxembourg's Jean-Claude Juncker, who acts as the formal head in finance matters for the 16 nations that share euro, said he believed the Greek measures meant that Athens would not now need EU aid.

Greeks, Germans meet over finanical crisis

"The commitments taken by the Greek government are clearly paving the way towards an exit" from its debt and deficit crisis, Juncker said.

Juncker reiterated the agreed line among European Union leaders that they "stand ready to take coordinated and determined action if necessary (but) ... I don't think this action will be needed."

Europe's biggest economy, Germany is widely seen as the most likely candidate to help prevent a Greek default, which would be disastrous for the 16-nation eurozone.

But there is huge opposition in Germany against such a move, with angry editorials slamming alleged Greek corruption and wasteful spending and Merkel allies even suggesting Greece should sell some of its islands to free up cash.

There was also anger aplenty on the streets of Athens Friday.

Several thousand Communist protesters demonstrated in front of parliament as it voted on the latest austerity package.

"We say no to anti-popular measures, to taxes and allowance cuts," a Communist banner said.

Greece's two main unions brought traffic to a standstill with a public sector strike. No public transport ran in Athens in the morning, all Greek airports were to close for a four-hour period and giant traffic jams clogged the centre of the capital.

State hospitals ran on skeleton staff, while teachers, state and private media groups were also hit by the strike. Even the police union called on its members to join protests organised for the day.

Addressing parliament, Finance Minister George Papaconstantinou said the state was paying 26 billion euros in civil servant salaries, up 50 percent in the last five years.

"Where did this money go? Each and every minister would give benefits to whomever they wanted," Papaconstantinou said.

The government on Wednesday increased sales, tobacco and alcohol taxes and cut public sector holiday allowances. Pensions were also frozen in a package worth the equivalent of around two percent of gross domestic product (GDP).

Athens has promised the European Union that it will reduce its public deficit this year by four percentage points from 12.7 percent.

Merkel has welcomed the Greek package as "an important step" towards cutting its budget deficit and restoring trust in Athens and the euro.

Needing to borrow money urgently to pay its bills, Greece successfully raised an urgently needed 5.0 billion euros (6.8 billion dollars) via a bond issue on Thursday.

But it had to pay an interest rate of some 6.3 percent or about twice the rate at which Germany can borrow.

Greece's borrowing costs shot up late last year when it was hit with a triple downgrade by credit agencies after revealing that its official budget deficit figures had been grossly under-reported.

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2872  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: March 05, 2010, 11:57:54 AM
Entitlement state

I psoek with one of my patients who lived through the 30's.  I said I thought times must have been terrible with bread lines etc.
I asked him though if times were in some ways worse now or worse then.
Many people now really question the future viability of the US.  Did people think that then?

He thought about it while answering.  He didn't say yes or no.  Just that it was really a "different" world back then.
People didn't expect what they expect now.  They were [hardier].  they learned to go through garbage dumps.  They grew their own food in gardens.

No one expected unemployment, pensions, free health care, medicare, social security.

So I guess they didn't look at the future of the US as being in jeopardy as we do today. 

I guess we didn't have the foreign threats we have now as well.

I asked him which is worse:

People on bread lines or a government that keeps expanding doles?

He didn't answer.  I think he just didn't have a chance to think it over.

To me this is the prime question facing us today (at least on the domestic front).
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2873  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / gerrymandering 2000 sytle - no more. on: March 04, 2010, 03:01:18 PM
Interesting take by DM.  Gerrymandering was for incubent, not party advantage in 2000.

By Dick Morris 03.3.2010 Published on TheHill.com on March 2, 2010

In U.S. politics, all elections are not created equal. It’s OK to lose the state legislative and gubernatorial elections held on years ending in 2, 4, 6 or 8. But you can’t afford to lose those held in years that end in 0. Those are the reapportionment elections.


With the governorships evenly divided and almost all of the state legislatures, the party that loses the decadal election stands to lose control over congressional reapportionment. And, therefore, to lose control of the House of Representatives for a decade.

When Obama persists with his unpopular healthcare proposals, he is dooming his party not just to defeat in 2010, but to losses throughout the coming decade.

The reapportionment of 2000 was a kinder, gentler reapportionment. Except in Texas, where former Rep. Tom DeLay (R) took no prisoners, the two parties concluded sweetheart deals to draw lines that favored the incumbents on both sides of the aisle. In California, for example, the lines so protected Democratic and Republican opponents that there is only one vulnerable Democrat (Jerry McNerney) out of 54 congressmen from that state.

In Iowa and Arizona, reapportionment was handled, as it should be everywhere, by a nonpartisan commission that is prohibited from considering party preferences or incumbency in drawing the lines. But in the other 48, don’t count on the kinder and gentler reapportionment rules of 2000 to apply.

The partisan divide, fostered by Obama’s ruthless use of his majorities, has become so wide and embittered that Republican legislative leaders and governors will press every advantage they can to gain ascendancy. And they should!

Tip O’Neill said that all politics is local. Not anymore. In 2010, all politics is national. The merits or demerits of each individual candidate count for little. Party counts for all.

Voters have come to understand and debunk the Myth of the Moderate Democrat. The fiscal-conservative-sounding, pro-life Democrat who campaigns for office promising to balance the budget, hold down taxes and fight for our values is the same one who marches right into the halls of the House on the first day of the session and votes for Nancy Pelosi for Speaker, Charlie Rangel for chairman of Ways and Means and Henry Waxman for Energy and Commerce. It is that one vote that permits Obama’s radical agenda to pass.

Voters realize that it does not matter if their local moderate Democrat breaks ranks on this bill or that one. That first vote to let the Democrats organize the House is the crucial one. From then on, Pelosi doesn’t really need him and will let him vote no to assuage his district and get reelected.

Presidents only lose when they get stuck in scandal or in their own misguided convictions. So it was with Johnson and Vietnam, Nixon and Watergate, Ford and the pardon, Reagan and Iran-Contra, Bush and the recession, Clinton and Lewinsky and Bush-43 and Iraq. Now Obama is repeating the lamentable history of his predecessors by getting stuck in the mire of his own ideology over healthcare.

So in the elections of 2010, Republicans, independents and even some Democrats (Obama’s rating is now down to 43 percent in Rasmussen) will vote a straight Republican ticket. Gone is the chic notion that party doesn’t matter and one should vote for the individual. Obama has ended those days. Now Democrats can expect the same kind of swath of destruction that will obliterate their congressional and Senate majorities to destroy their hold on statehouses and legislatures. And on the 2011 reapportionment.
2874  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Claims made for "natural" products on: March 04, 2010, 02:53:07 PM
This is what I am talking about.  Quacks making a buck suckering people into buying natural substances with false claims.
These substances alone or in combination are supposed to suppress appetite?  Or cause weight loss by some other magic?
FYI, caffeine is actually considered an appetite stimulant:

"citrus aurantium, the pills contain guarana and coffee bean extract".

I am glad she is being sued.  I am saddened to see her say something like I standby my products etc.

What is the logic to make pharmaceutical companies spend a billion dollars to show a drug works and go after them for millions when a rare problem shows up but otherwise ok for quacks to sell snake oil by making up nonsense claims of efficacy just because it is "natural"?   Wasn't a cereal maker just slapped by the FDA for making some sort of heart claims on one of it's products?

 'Biggest Loser' trainer Jillian Michaels hit with third lawsuit over weight loss supplement pills
BY Rosemary Black
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Thursday, February 18th 2010, 2:25 PM
 
Haaseth/NBC/© NBC Universal, Inc.Jillian Michaels, who whips contestants into shape on NBC's 'The Biggest Loser,' is facing a series of lawsuits over her brand of weight loss supplements. Related NewsArticles'Biggest Loser' trainer Jillian Michaels sued over weight loss supplement pillsJillian Michaels weight loss pills won't help shed long term pounds: experts“Biggest Loser” celeb trainer Jillian Michaels isn’t winning any support from dieters frustrated with her weight-loss supplements.

A third lawsuit against the Jillian Michaels Maximum Strength Calorie Control pills was filed Tuesday in Los Angeles County Court, according to Us Weekly.

Kathy Hensley charges that the supplements are made with a “potentially lethal” ingredient, citrus aurantium, which can in rare cases cause heart problems and high blood pressure, according to Us Weekly. Hensley, who’s suing for less than $5,000, also names the supplements’ maker Thin Care, Basic Research and Walgreens.

Michaels, 36, who calls herself “America’s Toughest Trainer,” told Us Weekly in a statement after the first lawsuit was filed that the claims against her supplements are “entirely without merit.” Besides citrus aurantium, the pills contain guarana and coffee bean extract.

“I stand behind all my products,” Michaels’ statement said.

ThinCare also responded to Us Weekly: “We are confident we will prevail.”
2875  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: March 04, 2010, 02:24:16 PM
"And so it was resolved before they left that day when Sen. Jon Kyl read from the CBO report saying that premiums would indeed rise under Obamacare, and Rep. Eric Cantor tried to explain to President Obama, "We just can't afford this. This government can't afford it, businesses can't afford it." Obama then retreated to saying, well, the premiums would be higher because his plan mandated richer benefits."

That's interesting!  Not one peep of this in the main stream propaganda machine.
Their pundits, and "news" anchors all came out in a chorus and said Obama stood his ground.  One even said something to the effect that the chosen one shot down all of the Republican attempts to "rattle him".

From now on when anyone disagrees with the One they need to tell *him* he needs to get the facts right.
2876  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Way Forward for the American Creed on: March 04, 2010, 09:31:02 AM
Crafty,
You may want to tune into Levin.  6 to 9 EST on 77 Am radio.  I agree with Levin on most things, but I am still not sure of his prescriptions for this country's ills.

Actually I meant Sir Reagan - not the (conservative) son who I also like - unlike the son he had with Nancy who is a quack hell bent on proving he disagrees with his father on probably every political issue.
2877  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / The chosen one was radical leftist at Univ of Chicago on: March 04, 2010, 09:27:07 AM
I didn't get to hear the whole interview but Marc Levin had a professor from the Univ of Chicago on last PM.
He knew "Barack".
This professor is of gun ownership.  He pointed out that Bama was clearly *to the left* of a "left" academic culture.
He said he had no illusions that other professors were against his stand on guns but Bama was clearly the ONLY one who would come out clear as day and state he was against anyone owning guns.

Indeed he said his impression was that Bama shunned him as he shunned anyone he did not agree with.

He was NOT a conciliator like he was falsely portrayed in his campaign and as the lefist supporters make him out to be now.

He was/is a strict ideologue.  This professor made it clear that his experience with Bama was that he was very rigid, uncompromising, set in his beliefs, and would surround himself only with those he agreed with.

He saw no evidence that the Bama would like to surround himself with those he disagreed with like has been stated and advertised.

Additionally he only came to Univ. of Chicago as a stepping stone for politics.  He was not an academic, he was not interested in research and he only was hired as a selling point for running for the Senate.

To me this just corraborates the obvious - this guy, because of his gift of the gab, is chosen to lead the far left radical agenda.

There is NO doubt in my mind the people have somehow been hoodwinked into thinking this guy is a conciliator, compromiser, just left of center, patriot.  All the circumstantial evidence all but proves that this guy is exactly what Beck, and others warn.

He is some sort of socialist, communist or whatever.  He is radical to everything this country was founded on, was built on, was meant to be and it is a total CON game to say otherwise.

Very interesting radio program on Levin's show last night.  I am sorry I missed some of it.  Usually he gets the usual average call in but this one was quite interesting.

I don't know if it is possible to somehow get this into the msm which continues to protect and cover the true nature of their ideologue.  WE always hear from the MSM that anyone who says anything akin to this is some sort of way out there loon when the only way out loon is Bama.

Also one defense is "well his policies are not radical", or some mirror Bush etc.

My response is that is only a cover.  His real agenda, his real dream is clearly some sort of communism or some iteration or manifastation of a socialist country and eventually the entire world.

I don't know how we can get the mainstream America to wake up.  It appears some independents have but the polls are incredibly stable.  I guess even worse is that apparantly many people in America (not real Americans) seem to be happy to have socialism of some sort.   
2878  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Way Forward for the American Creed on: March 02, 2010, 04:12:00 PM
Crafty
I agree.  I thought some years ago the "compassionate conservative" idea was sound to soften the stereotype of Republicans as cold harded for those who are of the lower socioeconomic ladder.  Now I have come to believe this was a mistake.
But I am still not personally sure we should be.  I still am not sure I believe in Levin/Reagan/Hannity/Limbaugh style conservative as being the best alternative.
I just don't know, am not smart enough, and/or just can't get my mind to get a good handle on what is the best way to make this country sound and keep it on top.
2879  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Romney - comeback? on: March 02, 2010, 01:48:09 PM
I'll have to check this out.  My nephew was asked to help write this but he is doing something else instead.  He is I think a bit second guessing that maybe he should have helped on the book but personally, while I generally like Romney - I think he falls just a bit short of the charisma needed to get the no. one spot.  But only time will tell for sure.

****The title of Mitt Romney's new book, "No Apology: The Case for American Greatness," is a not-so-subtle jab at the visits President Obama made overseas when he first took office, derided by the Right as the "American Apology Tour."

Behar calls the former governor "hunky" during a discussion about politics.Romney's book as a whole, however, may best be remembered not for the contrasts it offers with the incumbent president but for the contrasts it presents with "Going Rogue," the best-selling memoir of Sarah Palin, a potential Romney rival for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination.

Where Palin's book is a mix of score settling and juicy anecdotes, Romney's book consists of a 64-point plan for strengthening the United States and countless references to what he has been reading. Palin's book titillated audiences with her take on her husband without his shirt on ("Dang, I thought. Divorce Todd? Have you seen Todd?").****
2880  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants on: March 02, 2010, 01:04:01 PM
Do we know why he is retiring?

Frankly, he is the first and as far as I know the only one who is telling the truth here.  I wonder why he is retiring.  You worked with him?  Wow.

I don't see tax cut alone getting us out of this mess.
Printing funny money will only dig us into this deeper.

We have to wake up Americans and advise them that without sacrifice and hard work we will not get out of this.  We can't have everyone retire when they feel like it and then give less desirable jobs away to people marching into the country having babies, utilizing medicaid, our schools, taking money under the table, or those who come in legally bringing all their relatives inclucing ancietn parents over and putting them honestly or dishonestly on their busines's books for a few years and then qualifying for Medicare while the rest of us spent our whole lives putting into it - print worthless paper money - and expect that this coutnry will not fall apart. 

(Of course if we tax all the liberals in the entertainment/media/academia industries 95% that might help the rest of us.)

2881  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Jim Bunning - a hero on: March 02, 2010, 09:46:48 AM
At first my reaction to Jim Bunning was one of "what the heck is he thinking".

Now I think he is a hero and right on the money.

This country has to stop the sob stories, the false compassion and the feckless spending for everything under the sun.

We are BROKE.  When is it going to sink in?

We have to stop the dole and people will have to take jobs they don't want.

Today Medicare cuts to providers of 21% kick in.  The Congress passed a 30 day reprieve of this but the Senate has yet to roll this back.  Doctors/hospitals go through this bullying every year.  They gov holds this over our heads and then every time at the last minute act like they are doing us a favor by pushing it out another year.  This is their yearly bargaining chip.

OK, I'll take a pay cut.  But I ain't about to continue paying for everyone else to sit on their rears and collect pay checks while I work like a dog just to watch a large amount confiscated every tax quarter.

My health, auto, malpractice insurances keep going up every year for no reason yet I cannot raise my rates.

I am willing to work till I am 70 or longer, if I can.

I am not willing to pay for the pensions of all these people who retire at 50 and live for another 30 years.

I never agreed to all that.

Jim Bunning is the only one with enough guts to stand up against the madness.  Of course they reported he is retiring.

As Krauthammer said there is no hope otherwise any legislator will follow in his footsteps Rep or Dem.

This country is and should just go in the garbage.

And we have the richest man supporting the HC bill.  I agree we HAVE to do something but a gigantic overhaul with single payer all under the control of liberal academic elites is not the answer.  He is wrong to say that this bill is better than nothing.  Why should we make it worse?  WHy should most Americans suffer for the minority?

I doubt Buffet would agree to HMO medicine.  anymore than our fealess courageous legislators who all will continue to have access to the best care.

I have no prlbem with the President getting first rate care (including CT colonoscopy that was recently NOT approved for payment by Medicare for anyone else)  but Nancy Pelosi?  She is replaceable.
2882  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness *&his supporters* on: March 01, 2010, 02:11:25 PM
I saw part of this on Fareed Zakaria another leftist from the MSM.  I think it sums up the denial of the left over the peopel's rejection of their agenda. It is never the policy per se that is criticized.  It is always that they didn't do well delivering the message.
It isn't their Rx for the US is not wrong it is just that Obama or people around him, or Congress etc just didn't educate the people about the truth.  Their followers in the MSM keep pounding the same message across their media outlets such as Jonathan Alter, Howard Fineman and the NYT crew and the rest of the liberals.

I can only hope the Dems get reamed good in the next two elections once and for all.

****George Soros tells CNN: I’m not satisfied with Barack Obama, but he saved country from recession
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CNN’s Fareed Zakaria introduced George Soros as “the billionaire investor, financier, speculator, philanthropist and thinker.”

[A note: A lot of people have weighed in on this blog post about Soros and his life. If you want to know more, you can read his biography here.]

Zakaria on his “Fareed Zakaria GPS” this morning also noted that Soros was one of Barack Obama’s biggest supporters. Zakaria asked, “Are you satisfied with the job Barack Obama has done?”

Soros said he wasn’t. Soros wanted the banks nationalized, but added that Obama “made the political decision that that is un-American, will not be accepted.”

Yet Soros had praise for Obama’s overall leadership.

“He is paying a very heavy price for actually saving the country from going into a very deep recession or a depression, because people don’t — haven’t experienced it,” Soros said.

“He wanted to be the great uniter and he wanted to carry the country, sort of bring it together. But the other side has absolutely no incentive to do it.  So it takes two to tango.  So that approach has failed.”

But Obama “got the message” when Massachusetts elected Scott Brown, a Republican, as Ted Kennedy’s successor, Soros said.

“I hope that, actually, now, he’s [Obama's] taking the health care back to Congress and overcoming the filibuster — the 60 percent vote requirement,” Soros said. “I think that’s the right reaction.  So he’s sort of taking a tough stance.  And that may be the turning point.  It depends on how he follows it up.”

So what do you say to that?



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Mr. Soros is the epitomy of the huge financiers of the world who cannot step away from their own elite ego and will stop at nothing to dominate the world via economic and financial manipulation. For the largest donr to be critical of his minion means something major is in tthe works and his comments are just a rue to further cloud thebigger picture of world financial control. Let Americans use common sense and American values to steer us away from the reef of disater that is upon us. Shame on you Progressives for selling your souls.

Reply Posted by: Mark Thatcher | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:13 PM

A most excellent comment!

Reply Posted by: Ed R | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:15 PM

Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security are broke, broken, unfair, unstable, full of fraud as is congress and the presidency. They are all train wrecks, they have all come off the tracks, it’s up to us to vote them all out of office. I would not let these people wash my car. It’s been said that random picks from any phone book would make better representative’s, throw the bums out – all of them!!!

Reply Posted by: LawFinder | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:16 PM

Is this the same George Soros who is placing hedge bets on Greece ?

Why isn’t he considered an evil rich guy by the left ?

Reply Posted by: tankfixer | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:18 PM

Michigan out of work…..while I am sorry for your unfortunate circumstance, and wish you all the best in getting back to work, I don’t see how the government taking over 17% of the economy (health care) is going to do anything except give them another stick to beat us with.

Obama and all of his cronies, Reid, Pelosi, et al, and especially Soros are very dangerous people. Soros wants to destroy the United States as a constitutional republic. By buying dishonest politicians like obama, and with the influence of his massive financial empire, he hopes to continue duping the public into thinking that this is good for them.

We,as a nation, are at a turning point. I will tell you this, though. There are many who will not accept the socialist views of Soros and his puppets. They (the leftists) tell you, and you believe, that the health care mess is the fault of the eeeeeeevil insurance companies! Just like the same bs you have heard about big oil, big auto, big banks….

Ingenuity and the free market can bring us out of this mess. It will take hard work and good ideas.

The obama/soros syncophants believe that the government can “give” it to them, it’s free, we’re all equal, utopia is here, bla, bla, ad nauseum!

They’re going to “give” it to us all right!

The old cliche “There ain’t no free lunch” seems appropriate here. Trust me, YOU WILL PAY FOR IT, one way or another, you will pay for it.
It’s a giant lobster kettle. Before you know it, the water will be boiling and it’s too late. You cannot jump out. They own you.

Again, good luck with your situation. Please look long and hard at what the leftists propose. Read your history. Don’t fall into the trap.

Reply Posted by: tucasfacious | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:22 PM

Sure, nationalizing the banks might be “un-American,” but most likely Obama didn’t let it happen because he “knows those guys.”
How about bailing out the banks at taxpayer expense? Un-American? Nooo…
The only banks that need to be “nationalized” are the Federal Reserve banks. To NOT do so is “un-American.”

Reply Posted by: Sophia | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:22 PM

Soros is an evil man.

Reply Posted by: Lee Grikschat | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:23 PM

Mark, ya I am jealous of him to!

Reply Posted by: Scott | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:32 PM

Soros thinks of himself as a Robin Hood. He steals from the rich and spends the money the way he thinks it ought to be spent. He ignores the reality that people are lazy, selfish, and greedy. They take without giving. They are poor because they are stupid, not because they don’t have money.

Reply Posted by: JimmyDaGeek | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:35 PM

The Federal Reserve has been a problem since its inception. The Federal Reserve needs to ba abolished. It has nothing to do with the government and has been hijacking the economic system of the US since its beginning in 1910.

Reply Posted by: tucasfacious | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:36 PM

Oh I guess Obama took Soros the greedy creep’s money and didn’t do as Soros told him. Soros needs to be brought down to earth; the man is the picture of arrogance, greed and total megalomania. The man is as dangerous as they come.

Reply Posted by: Beli | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:43 PM

“Is this the same George Soros who is placing hedge bets on Greece ?
Why isn’t he considered an evil rich guy by the left ?”

Because the left have different standards for their own – especially the rich&famous ones. How do Hollywood’s elite liberals get away with the crap they do and still be held up as role models?

Fame and fortune seem to erase all blots if you’re on the left.

Reply Posted by: Dave in Dallas | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:44 PM

Soros is an absolutely DISGUSTING, marxist piece of garbage! He only wants to nationalize the banks because he ALREADY pulls the strings. He would have never pushed for it BEFORE he was ready to do so. When you hold the strings to the very institution that would run the banks, then you don’t have to worry about the institution getting in the way of your further gains in the federally hijacked banking system. He should be put on trial for attempted treason.

Reply Posted by: Susan Harkins | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:45 PM

George Soros, you are such a hypocrite. Obama is doing exactly what you paid him to do and that is to create chaos for the United States. That’s why your puppet smiles so much. He doesn’t care if any of his proposed changes come to fruition. He’s just here to cause problems.

Reply Posted by: Gerri Larsen | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:45 PM

I used to be the economic developer in a small town in Texas when a women from California asked to meet me and the mayor of our town. She lectured us for 20 minutes telling us what a wonderful town we had and why. Then, she spoke for 30 minutes about all the things we should change. At the end I told her, “If we made all the changes you just suggested all the good things you first talked about would no longer be here”. That is Soro’s, he made billions in a system he now despises and I guess his philosophy now is “I got mine, screw You!

Reply Posted by: Larry | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:49 PM

I ONLY HOPE THE MEDICAL DEATH PANEL WILL MAKE A QUICKER DECISION ON THAT GUY — GEORGE SOROS….PLSE PULL HIS PLUG ASAP !!!

Reply Posted by: TheLonePatriot | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:59 PM

hELLO?
SOROS OWNS OBAMA
\Thanks in part to funding from benefactors such as billionaire George Soros, the Center for American Progress has become in just five years an intellectual wellspring for Democratic policy proposals, including many that are shaping the agenda of the new Obama administration.\

Edwin Chen
Bloomberg
November 18, 2008

Reply Posted by: DANTE | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:00 PM

Soros is the epitome of a dangerous, evil man. He hates our country and is out to destroy it.

Reply Posted by: GodBlessAmerica | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:02 PM

I have no doubt he will be betting against the dollar soon and making a ton of money. Obama will have done what he paid him to do… without even knowing…

Reply Posted by: Thomass | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:14 PM

My question is this. Why can’t these rich liberals come out of the closet and “shell out” their money for free health care. I am more than happy with my health care insurance the company gave us…

Reply Posted by: Jon | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:19 PM

Soros is the master behind the stooge that now occupies “our” White House. The American people are waking up to the agenda of the “progressives”…who by the way, dominate the strings in the so-called “mainstream” media. Can’t wait until next November! Revenge of the American people and the death of the Democratic Party!

Reply Posted by: RJ | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:19 PM

I’ve read and listen to Mr. Soros for years and years now, I have concluded he uses interviews as an opportunity to spin the future to confuse the people and set up the investment public to be flat footed for his future trades. He always knows the topics to be discussed, he always goes to a trusted interviewer, ie CFR global citizen Zakaria. Hes a trader- hes like the rest of us, he really just wants to make a hugh pile of money, like the rest of the sociopath investment banks, who think they operate in a vacum, George just sees the weakness and corruption in the left is where he sees the real easy money. Working in politics and when he makes foolish statements, amounts to playing his hand. Entities, Big G’s, and traders like Soros are all the same.

Reply Posted by: jake D. | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:22 PM

tucasfacious:
I am assuming you are a student of “Secrets of the Temple”….. Quite a fascinating book!!!!!

Reply Posted by: HOTHEAD | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:22 PM

Ahhhhh, poor old Georgie. Little Rahmbo and Obama didn’t deliver for him….well, other than the billions plus drilling venture off of Brazil. Soros is extraordinarily dangerous as is Warren Buffet. Both of these men are doing their very best to manipulate the US and break the nation into three segmented populations for personal control and influence. Presidents need to be vetted for past and present contacts. The last look at the White House roster for visitors, had Soros listed with four visits. The guy is throwing up a facade for something else he wants.

Reply Posted by: tom adams | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:23 PM

Obama must be doing something right if Robert Soros doesn’t like him.
Soros is pushing for a one-world-governemnt

Reply Posted by: bonniwheeler | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:24 PM

Soros has funded Obama and his ilk for quite some time. This man is one pathetic human being.

http://nymag.com/news/politics/30634/

The picture is telling.

Reply Posted by: Neal N. Lichmee | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:25 PM

B.O. Stinks … from the get go, I spotted him as an empty suit … a smiling bull$hitter. NO EXPERIENCE … NO BACKGROUND … NO GRADES TO JUDGE HIM BY (To say nothing about saying nothing about his birth certificate) … LIE AFTER LIE documented on video … total disregard for our troops (Bush met EVERY family who lost a loved one). And since I mentioned Dubya, the peace & love people did everything they could to vilify the man, but conveniently forget B.O.’s ADMITTED drug use. Yes, folks America needs a secret society of socialists in the White House. BTW, ever notice how B.O. cocks his head … look up Mussolini for a comparison. God Bless America … we need it ASAP!

Reply Posted by: Rod | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:25 PM

George Soros should pack his bags and move back to Europe and take his socialist ideas with him. Who needs a billionaire who makes his money on sleazy deals that steal money from the middle class.

Reply Posted by: Richard | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:26 PM

Tom Adams, You’re half right. B.O. is pushing for a one world government as well. These remarks by Soros are just for public consumption, i.e. they are NOT to be trusted.

Reply Posted by: John Smith | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:45 PM

Wouldn’t it be good if there was a way to measure the intelligence and education of the posters on comment sections like these?

80 years of gradually lowered educational standards and the dumbing down the working class have led us to the position we are in…. a population who is easily manipulated by emotional buzzwords and trigger phrases.

Reply Posted by: davidius | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:50 PM

I”m sick of hearing about soros and buffet and what thier “opinions”are.Neither one gives a damn what happens to america,just as long as they get to manipulate behind the scenes and make thier precious dollars.I’m all for free markets,have none of the lefts disdain for business,however there’s always been something rotten in denmark with soros and buffet.We need to bounce these fools or take em out.

Reply Posted by: solgreatman | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:55 PM

There is a no more despicable, evil human being slithering upon this earth than George Sorros (not his real name). The great “money changer” who almost bankrupted the British pound and threw the Malaysian economy and currency system into chaos to staisfy his own greed and maniacal lust for wealth.

To call this narcistic progressive elite or his Marxist socio-political orthadoxy, which cares absolutely nothing about the human condition “philanthropic” is the equivalent of calling Dracula a saint.

Reply Posted by: Lightning Jack | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:56 PM

“a student of “Secrets of the Temple”….. ” HOTHEAD

HOTHEAD…..Yes, has been a while since I read it. Probably 10 years.
Greider lays it out quite succinctly. Now, I must re-read it. Not a political book, very centered. No bull$h1t Just tells it like it is. Another is “The Creature from Jekyll Island” by G. Edward Griffin.

The whole Fed is smoke and mirrors. It’s a scam, a parlor trick, and most people fall for it as they do not see the rabbit is already in the hat. It always has been. Once people study it and really see the way the Federal Reserve works and who is working it, it’s true. You will never trust a politician again. The Fed needs to go, but how? It would probably take more than most are willing to do to get rid of it. I believe some have tried. Many of those are not with us anymore.

Remember-In a hyper-inflated environment, the last one holding Federal Reserve notes loses.

Remember

Reply Posted by: tucasfacious | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:57 PM

All of the programs cited as broke have been pillaged by politicians similar to benefit bank accounts belonging to employees when the company is purchased. This is not the only area of durress as the same symptoms appear throughout all departments of the government.

Every time a decent program is started, no management, and no one to hold accountable seems to be SOP and the downfall of the program starts the day the program goes into effect.

Realizing the problem is a good start towards solving the problem, but then ongoing duedilligence MUST be adhered to in order to prevent backsliders re-emerging.

Reply Posted by: Bob | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 2:00 PM

Is George want his money back? Like from the off shore credit card transactions that flooded Obama’s campaign to avoid reporting limits?
Poor George, talks down gold then doubles down on his investment as the news hits the market? Ya, I am really concerned about the Leftist promoter, Mr. Soros. Oh, that we could trust this man in any legal endevor that was not anti-Capitalist. But, most of us judge on past performance not promises.

Reply Posted by: BlueSpringsMo | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 2:01 PM

George Soros is getting what he paid for. He wanted the left wing to run the country. He just did not bank on the fact that Obama would forget who was telling him what do everyday. It’s Soros and the Unions.Soros has one wish and that is to have total control of the world and its money. If Cap Trade come about, he will reap trillions in the markets and you can bet your bottom dollar that he is going to start pushing for it. Money runs the world not good intentions. Obama has left us Hopless and with very little Change in our pocket.

Reply Posted by: gabbie | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 2:08 PM

George Soros is a Marxist loving creep that takes advantage of our capitalist system by betting against it by supporting fellow Marxists like Obama. Soros is betting against the dollar doing all he can to make sure the dollar falls as well as the Euro so he can make another trillion $$. If America fails I wonder where Soros will find another safe haven that he can destroy to make more $$?***




2883  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Epidemics: Bird Flu, TB, etc on: February 27, 2010, 01:07:51 PM
Safe Care Campaign.

Yes hand hygiene could help.  And yes more is and should be done towards this end.

Also of benefit may be to NOT sky dive for a living.

Kind of reminds me of the father of that young fellow in Iraq who had his head cut off on the internet blaming of course George Bush for it all.  He failed to remember his was walking around a war zone trying to start a computer business after the Iraq invasion.

Kind of fits the concept that no one wants to take responsibility for anything they do.  It is always some one else's fault.  The victimhood mentality.
2884  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness on: February 23, 2010, 11:15:00 AM
Of course the Dems are going nuts trying to capitalize on the Toyota thing and make it a political issue - which it certainly is not.
The Bama is looking out for us.  What a joke.

"Toyota vows quality shake-up, faces criminal probe
         
Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI), chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee, begins the hearing on the "Response By Toyota and NUTS (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) to incidents of "sudden unintended acceleration" on Capitol Hill in Washington February 23, 2010. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque
On Tuesday February 23, 2010, 11:53 am
By Nobuhiro Kubo

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A top Toyota Motor Corp U.S. executive promised a quality shake-up on Tuesday as the Obama administration said it would hold the carmaker's chief to a pledge to address safety issues after massive recalls.

Congressional hearings over the next two days are critical for the world's largest automaker as it seeks to repair damage over unintended acceleration problems and braking issues that have led to the recall of more than 8.5 million vehicles around the world.

Criminal investigations are now being hinted at by subpoenas from the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission and a federal grand jury in New York.

Toyota's top-ranking American executive, Jim Lentz, will testify on Tuesday before a panel of the U.S. House Energy and Commerce committee in proceedings scheduled to start at 1100 EST.

Company President Akio Toyoda, grandson of Toyota's founder, will testify on Wednesday before a panel of the House Oversight and Government Reform committee.

In a statement prepared ahead of the hearings, U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said he would hold Toyoda to his assurance that the carmaker is working to address all safety issues.

In addition to Toyota executives, U.S. safety regulators will also be grilled on the question of why red flags were missed.

"The mood of the investigative committees going into these hearings is looking increasingly hostile toward Toyota," said Aaron Bragman, analyst at IHS Global Insight.

Adding to the Japanese automaker's deepening crisis on Monday, new documents surfaced which detailed how Toyota beat back U.S. safety regulators' efforts for a wider probe in 2007.

"From a public relations standpoint, this has been an unmitigated disaster from the start for Toyota, handled poorly by a team unfamiliar with major public relations catastrophes," Bragman said.

"The situation looks likely to get worse this week for Toyota, as now the company's advertising and public relations teams' attempts to win over the public and media seem disingenuous at best."

In testimony prepared for his appearance on Capitol Hill, Toyota's Lentz said: "We now understand that we must think differently when investigating complaints and communicate faster, better and more effectively with our customers and our regulators."

Mike Jackson, chief executive of AutoNation Inc, was one of several hundred Toyota dealers and workers who came to Washington on Tuesday as part of a campaign organized by the automaker to help win back popular and political support.

"I'm certain that once the vehicles have been repaired and production has resumed that going into March and April, that (Toyota's) sales will recover," Jackson told Reuters Insider.

In the wake of Toyota's massive recall, Consumers Union, the nonprofit publisher of Consumer Reports, issued a call on Tuesday for urgent changes to strengthen U.S. auto safety regulation.

It said that the U.S. safety regulatory system should be reformed to become more transparent and that the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration should have more funding and the ability to impose tougher sanctions.

PRELUDE TO TESTIMONY

In a preview of the line Toyota's president could take in his testimony, Toyoda said in a statement published in The Wall Street Journal he was committed to making sure Toyota learns from the crisis and changes its ways.

"It is clear to me that in recent years we didn't listen as carefully as we should -- or respond as quickly as we must -- to our customers' concerns," Toyoda said.

The extended apology from Toyoda came hours after Toyota said it had received a federal grand jury subpoena from the U.S. attorney's office in Manhattan on February 8.

The automaker also said the SEC had asked for documents related to unintended acceleration of Toyota vehicles and the company's disclosure policies. Toyota said it would cooperate with the investigations.

Toyota's U.S. shares were down 0.8 percent at $72.35 on the New York Stock Exchange on Tuesday morning, down more than 21 percent from their 12-month high reached last month.

(Additional reporting by Chang-Ran Kim and Kevin Krolicki; writing by Matthew Lewis, editing by Hugh Lawson, David Holmes and Dave Zimmerman)"

2885  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Jim Traficant on: February 23, 2010, 10:16:23 AM
This AM he was on CNN and sat through what was a rather condescending and at times smart alec interview by some well made up and bejeweled low-cut blouse female interviewer who rapped up at the end of the interview by saying thank you for being on and  you are always an interesting "character" all the while sitting smuggly with  shit eating grin on her face.
Personally I agreed with most of what he said.

The tax code is absolutely nuts, the illegal problem is NOT being addressed in this country but by both parties courting Latinos for votes and that we will now AGAIN, like fools give amnesty to people who take advantage of our laws our services and our country.

As for his statement we are in two wars we have no business bieng in I am less in agreement.  I just don't know enoughto have an opinion on this.

The money in politics, the money that is needed that helps keep the incumbants in power, the money that is needed that goes to the mass media for advertising.  It is a merry go round of scams, bribes, and back door back scratching.

Some say the internet will neutralize this but I am not so certain.



2886  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Radiation exposure - a real concern on: February 23, 2010, 09:26:30 AM
I think the radiation exposure to CT scans can very well be significant and over time (possibly decades) dangerous.

There is no question in my mind that CT scans are overused and used by many without the slightet regard to the radiation debit.

Doses are cummulative over time.

Many physicians seem to use CT scans like we used to order plain xrays.  The difference is that CT scans give a radiation does roughly 100 or more times that of a simple Xray.

I've seen some pts. getting 10, 15, 20, or more CT scans over a few years.

I don't know what some doctors are thinking. 

20 CT scans would be like getting 2000 Xrays.

You can't tell me that kind of radiation dose doesn't at least in a few patients cause cancer.
 
I would seriously recommend telling pts. to ask their doctor if there is an alternative when getting a CT scan or if it is really necessary before being told to get it.

Not that they aren't often needed, or that they don't offer many life saving pieces of information.

Just that they are definitely overused and I think the long term risks are only now just getting the attention they deserve.
2887  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / hotdogs can kill on: February 22, 2010, 09:47:45 AM
I know someone whose only son died choking on a hot dog.  This doesn't mean I am necessarily for more micromangement of our society:

"HealthDay Reporter by Amanda Gardner
healthday Reporter – 1 hr 39 mins ago
MONDAY, Feb. 22 (HealthDay News) -- The leading group of pediatricians in the United States is pushing for a redesign of common foods such as hot dogs and candies, along with new warning labels placed on food packaging, to help curb sometimes fatal incidents of child choking.

"We know what shape, sizes and consistencies pose the greatest risk for choking in children and whenever possible food manufacturers should design foods to avoid those characteristics, or redesign existing foods when possible, to change those characteristics to reduce the choking risk," said Dr. Gary Smith, immediate-past chairman of the American Academy of Pediatrics' Committee on Injury, Violence and Poison Prevention and lead author of the organization's new policy statement on preventing choking.
"Any food that has a cylindrical or round shape poses a risk," he pointed out. Smith said that hot dogs were high on the list of foods that could be redesigned -- perhaps the shape, although he said it would be up to the manufacturers to figure out the specifics.

Hard candies, on the other hand, could be designed so they're flat rather than round, said Smith, who is also director of the Center for Injury Research & Policy at Nationwide Children's Hospital in Columbus, Ohio.

The AAP policy statement appears in the March issue of Pediatrics and is the first such guidance on the subject from that group.

"There's a general recognition that more needed to be done to protect children from choking," according to Smith. "We have a number of laws and regulations that help prevent choking due to toys. There are no such similar regulations for food."

Health experts welcomed the suggestions.

"I think it's very reasonable to strengthen regulations to prevent choking injuries for children," said Dr. Lee Sanders, associate professor of pediatrics at the University of Miami Miller School of Medicine. "The most common cause of death for kids aged roughly 1 to 5 is choking but it's also one of the most common reasons for visits to the emergency room and, for kids who don't die of these injuries, sometimes there are long-lasting injuries or implications," Sanders said. "It's a significant public health issue."

"People should know that grapes are a choking hazard for a certain-age child, that hot dogs are of risk," added Dr. Mike Gittelman, associate professor of clinical pediatrics in the division of emergency medicine at Cincinnati Children's Hospital.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) said it would "carefully review the analysis and recommendations."

"The FDA is concerned about the deaths and serious injuries caused by choking," said agency spokeswoman Rita Chappelle. "We will also continue to consult with the Consumer Product Safety Commission on assessing choking hazards associated with food and take action against food products that are 'unfit for food' on a case-by-case basis."

Hot dogs are a prime offender, accounting for 17 percent of food-related asphyxiations in children under the age of 10, according to one study.

"If you were to take the best engineers in the world and asked them to design a perfect plug for a child's airway, you couldn't do better than a hot dog," Smith said. "It's the right size, right shape. It's compressible so it wedges itself in. When they're in that tight [it's] almost impossible, even with the correct training and the correct equipment, to get out. When it's wedged in tightly, that child is going to die."

Other high-risk foods include hard candy, peanuts and nuts, even peanut butter.

The policy statement called for the government to establish a "mandatory system . . . to label foods with appropriate warnings according to their choking risk, to conduct detailed surveillance and investigate food-related choking incidents, and to warn the public about emerging food-related choking hazards."

Manufacturers' responsibility would be to affix "choking hazard" labels to high-risk products and to consider shapes, sizes and textures when designing products.

"I think there should be a commitment from the entire industry to label not only hot dogs but all high-risk foods with some type of informational label that allows consumers to make informed decisions," Smith said, adding that he thought companies would figure out that "safety sells."

The AAP also called on parents, pediatricians and other health-care workers to pay more attention to the issue.

The Grocery Manufacturers Association (GMA) responded, but put special emphasis on the role of parents, teachers and other child care providers in helping keep kids safe.

"Food safety and consumer confidence is the number-one priority of the food and beverage industry. We applaud the attention the American Academy of Pediatrics is bringing to the prevention of choking among children," the GMA said in a statement.

"We especially agree that the education of parents, teachers, child care workers, and other child caregivers encouraging them to supervise and create safer environments for children is paramount to the prevention of choking among children. We also strongly agree that pediatricians, doctors and other infant and toddler care professionals should intensify choking prevention counseling including providing parents and care givers guidance on developmentally appropriate food selection for their children. We take our working relationships with FDA and USDA [U.S. Department of Agriculture] very seriously and look forward to continuing to work with the agencies to ensure that our products are as safe as possible," the GMA said."

2888  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants on: February 22, 2010, 09:34:25 AM
"The Left and the isolationist Right reckon that's no big deal"

Leading the isolationist Right is Pat Buchanan.  I have to say a recent column of his says it all (with regards to his true feelings about Jews).  According to him the problems we face in the Middle East are essentially the fault of the Jews.  He all but comes out and says it.  As a Jew, like Rachel it is hard not to be seriously offended. 
I've said before I really doubt if push comes to shove that most Americans will be willing to stick up for Israel.  I know some polls say otherwise but I don't believe them.

Of course Israel is trying to sell the concept that this is not just an Israeli problem it is a world problem.  I agree but of course I am biased.

Withou knowing the inside workings of the Bama administration superficially it really appears our fearless leader(s) has accepted a nuclear Iran. Tossed out on the cable talk shows the new strategy appears to be "containment", whatever that means.

All I can think of is John Bolten's warning to all who listened:

If anyone thinks Iran is a problem now just imagine what it will be like with nuclear weapons.
2889  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iraq on: February 21, 2010, 11:14:35 AM
It is easier to see why our military wants no part in provoking Iran when one looks at the map.
We have our troops to the west in Iraq and our troops to the east of Iran in Afghanistan.

No one appears to want to go the route of using nucs to destroy their capabilities.

It is obvious as to why but Bolton's simple and straight forward question makes me think that may be our best option:

"If anyone thinks Iran or the middle East is a problem now just imagine what it would be like with an Iran that has nucs" [on missles that can reach Europe and is a spark for a nuclear arms race among Middle Eastern monarchies.]

The choice is we either deal with it now or throw the dice and hope it goes away (regime change) or deal with an ever worse situation later.

And of course our economic situation just makes doing anything now even more a problem.
2890  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Haley Barbour on: February 21, 2010, 11:06:25 AM
Newt is great.  I just question his generalizable appeal.  He didn't exactly leave the Senate high up in the polls.

Barbour, I always recall was/is very well spoken, articulate.
He got rave reviews for his handling of Katrina in Mississippi from what I read.
Anyone have thoughts on him for Pres?
2891  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: The Price of Tyranny on: February 17, 2010, 05:24:13 PM
Marc Levin talks about the DDT fraud in his best seller, "Liberty and Tyranny".
2892  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Communicating with the Muslim World on: February 15, 2010, 06:07:05 PM
Today that meta-narrative is embraced across the Arab-Muslim political spectrum, from the secular left to the Islamic right. Deconstructing that story, and rebuilding a post-1979 alternative story based on responsibility, modernization, Islamic reformation and cross-cultural dialogue, is this generation’s challenge. I think it can happen, but it will require the success of the democratizing self-government movements in Iran and Iraq.

Well it is already been said that we should do all we can to promote democratizing Iraq, Iran etc.
But it looks like time is running out.

Iran appears to be on a trajectory to have nucs by then which some experts feel will spark an arms race.

The truth is the US is now too weak.

Iran knows it.

We offer peace and cooperation.  Or we offer to wipe out their nuclear capability.

That WAS the answer.  But I guess not anymore.  They will get the bomb.

And we will have half the nation paying for the debts of the other half.



2893  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Illegals on: February 15, 2010, 03:14:34 PM
I am not clear what Republicans stand for with regard to illegals.  Illegals seems to be equated with Latinos though it doesn't.

Obama's WH comes out with this which is reasonable to me:

"White House spokesman Adam Abrams said the president wanted to sign a bill that strengthened border enforcement and cracked down on employers "who exploit undocumented workers to undercut American workers." He also said the president wanted to resolve the status of 12 million people who were in the U.S. illegally, "that they should have to register, pay a penalty for breaking the law and meet other obligations of legal immigrants such as paying taxes, or leave the country."

So if this is NOT satisfactory to Latino groups than what is satisfactory to THEM that makes ANY Republican think THEY are going to win over their votes?Huh  Isn't it obvious that many Latinos want the most mea culpa they can get?
So does this mean Rep will trip over their own feet to conceed more for votes??  I hope not.
Why is it so difficult to ask why the citizens of this country have to be held hostage by illegals?

Why do we have to keep shooting ourselves in the head?  Our system is so broken.  If we don't get a real leader who cannot rise above this I really believe this country is sunk.  Who is going to tell Americans they have to get off their damn lazy asses and work our way out of the mess we are in?

***WASHINGTON — As one of the first Latinos in the nation to endorse Barack Obama , Democratic state Sen. Gilbert Cedillo of Los Angeles campaigned hard for the president, but he's disappointed now.

The reason: Obama has yet to do anything on a comprehensive overhaul of immigration laws, as he promised to do when he ran for president.

"I think he's in danger of breaking the spirit of solidarity and hope," Cedillo said. "More than a broken promise, it's the danger of breaking people's sense of hope in the Latino community."

While the president carried the Latino vote by large margins 15 months ago, many Republicans are out to capitalize on Latino dissatisfaction with Obama and Washington's Democratic leaders. They think that could help them immensely in the 2010 elections.

Republican candidates will gain ground from Latinos once Latinos realize "that what the Democrats offer is just a bunch of empty promises," said Hector Barajas , a communications consultant for the California State Senate Republican Caucus .

He noted that the president spent only about 10 seconds on immigration at the very end of his State of the Union speech last month. Barajas said the issue had been particularly hot on Spanish talk radio ever since Obama gave that speech.

"It's what didn't happen," Barajas said. "I mean, he spent more time talking about gays in the military than he did about providing some immigration reform plan."

The White House said that it remained committed to passing a comprehensive overhaul of immigration laws.

White House spokesman Adam Abrams said the president wanted to sign a bill that strengthened border enforcement and cracked down on employers "who exploit undocumented workers to undercut American workers." He also said the president wanted to resolve the status of 12 million people who were in the U.S. illegally, "that they should have to register, pay a penalty for breaking the law and meet other obligations of legal immigrants such as paying taxes, or leave the country."

"The president told members of both parties that if they can fashion a plan to deal with these problems, he is eager to work with them to get it done," Abrams said.

Jaime Regalado , the executive director of the Pat Brown Institute , a nonprofit public-policy center at California State University, Los Angeles , said that Democrats, particularly the president, faced "a scary situation."

"It's really a colossal hassle for the administration, that there is so much impatience from so many groups — including Latinos — that are hellbent on having an immigration reform package in 2010, an election year," he said. "It's difficult in any season in any year, but this is a very precarious year for Obama."

Regalado said Republicans were exploiting the issue "with good reason," because it was a no-win situation for Democrats: They lose votes from Latinos if they don't come up with a comprehensive solution to immigration, or they lose votes from more conservative members of their base if they do.

"It's fraught with political peril," he said. "There's no question about that."

Cedillo, who campaigned for Obama in California , Texas and Nevada and debated on his behalf on Spanish radio, said the president and Democratic leaders needed to show Latinos that they were committed to them "not only during the campaign, but after the election."

He predicted that Latinos will provide the determining vote in every upcoming presidential election. Obama was hugely popular among Latinos, receiving 75 percent of the more than 10 million votes they cast in the 2008 presidential election.

Latinos are gearing up to be big players this fall. Earlier this month, a report by America's Voice, a group that backs new comprehensive immigration policies, said that immigration could be the deciding factor in as many as 40 congressional races in November.

Noting the electoral strength of Latinos, Cedillo said: "I would be concerned if I was the White House , if I was a member of Congress ."

Immigration has taken a back seat to a host of tough issues for Obama, including two wars, the struggling economy and a yearlong effort to get Congress to pass a health care overhaul. The president's defenders say that it would be politically impossible to add the volatile issue of immigration to the mix right now.

Cedillo doesn't buy that argument. He said the president knew that he'd be dealing with other big issues when he made the promises to the Latino community during the campaign.

"Those were the conditions that he was campaigning under," Cedillo said. "It's not like those were surprises. ... I was so proud of him, at how firm and clear he was in those presidential debates. He really provided leadership."

Barajas said Latinos recognized that it had been a tough year for Obama and an immigration plan might not be fully implemented immediately, but he said there wasn't even a plan for proceeding, let alone introducing legislation.

"I think the Democratic Party needs to wake up and realize that you can only fool the Latino community for so long," Barajas said. "There's a great sense of frustration, there's a great sense of anger and there's a big letdown" that will drive more Latinos to the Republican Party .

Regalado said he didn't believe that Democrats would switch to the Republican Party in big numbers. "What it does threaten is that Latinos stay home" on Election Day , he said.****

2894  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Communicating with the Muslim World on: February 15, 2010, 11:39:28 AM
The Arabs and Muslims are victims of an imperialist-Zionist conspiracy aided by reactionary regimes in the Arab world. It has as its goal keeping the Arabs and Muslims backward in order to exploit their oil riches and prevent them from becoming as strong as they used to be in the Middle Ages — because that is dangerous for Israel and Western interests.’

The only truth to that is with regards to weaponization/militarization.
Yeah we don't want Arabs and Muslims getting their hands on nuclear weapons, long range missles etc.
No one is stopping them from modernizing otherwise.
Look at Dubai.

"rebuilding a post-1979 alternative story based on responsibility, modernization, Islamic reformation and cross-cultural dialogue, is this generation’s challenge."

No one is stopping them from this - just leave out the weapons.

 


2895  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / SS police - nah on: February 13, 2010, 01:44:37 PM
But empolyers are responsible.  Don't you agree most here who hire illegals know full well they are doing so?
And it is not soley the Mexican/US border.  I doubt Obama's mother walked across from Mexico yet she is here illegally.
What about the illegal Haitains. Dominicans, other Carib islands people, Indians, Africans, Chinese, Eastern Europeans, and more who are here illegally.

I think we probably need to do more at the border as well but that is not getting at the root of the problem.

It seems more humane and politically easier to simply cut off their funding to get them to leave rather then round people up, arrest them in INS raids, shoot them at the borders, etc.

People won't be coming here by the millions if not for Americans (mostly) knowingly giving illegals jobs.

And for full time work we ask people for ID anyway to give them 1099s, W2s etc.  So what's the big deal.
So my gardner might have to spend a bit more to hire a legal employee.  He charges me an arm and leg anyway.

Crafty, don't you think the analogy is a bit extreme?

I don't think it is Nazi Germany to verify people are here legally to give them a job.

The problem also is these people ARE draining our health system, our schools, the Medicaid for their kids, food stamps for their kids who are legal and probably, other ways of playing the system.

I would rather feel comfortable asking someone for papers than have to sit idly by like a fool and worry and wring my hands at risk of being called a bigot because it is obvious when someone in front of me is here illegally.

If we simply made it mandatory for all it would be easy to do.  And we are just talking about people who are applying for jobs.  Not at food stores, gas stations, being stopped for no reason on the street etc.

2896  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: unions on: February 13, 2010, 10:05:27 AM
Aren't the unions and in particularly public sector unions what busted the Governator in Kalifornia a few years back?

I've posted a couple of times that I don't get the rationality of hiring people for public jobs, than allowing them to collectivize and turn around and then demand taxpayers give them more.

I am not sure why this is not some sort of collusion (that was the cry when some doctors started talking about unionizing).
Then again there must obviously be many legal arguments for and against as well as I would think much case law on such matters.

IMO we are being screwed by our own government servants - with a notable exception - the military.  I would think most of us are grateful to them and support pensions, health care etc for them.  OTH how come they can't simply unionize?



2897  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues on: February 13, 2010, 09:42:11 AM
I'm not sure allowing those who meet criteria is such a good idea.
Reagan gave amnesty to a few million in the early 80s.
Now we have ten times the problem.
We do it again and we may have another ten times the problem in 30 years.

I really don't think it is that hard to stop this.
Simply we make employers have to verify citizen status before hiring.
What is so hard about having some sort of data bank of citizens and asking employers to require an ID before they hire and making it a crime to knowingly hire an illegal by not having some sort of ID verification documentation?

And we need to stop the loophole that anyone born here is automatically a citizen when neither of their parents are.

What is so hard about doing these things?

You won't have to shoot anyone coming over because they won't be coming over - unless it is to bring over drugs.

I feel sorry for the Mexicans who are trying to remain honest and fight the narco terrorists.
We are the assholes buying the stuff while we sit comfortably North of the border while people are dying South of the border.
2898  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: The Power of Word on: February 12, 2010, 09:44:08 AM
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2899  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iran on: February 11, 2010, 03:15:13 PM
Good post.
Sounds a bit encouraging.
Last night while driving and listening to Marc Levin he was saying Bama should go all out supporting the opposition and putting ALL screws available on the Mullahs.
The one issue not addressed is that the guy who "lost" to Amedinjad (sp?) may not have had any different approach to Israel.
Is there any data how the average Iranian feels about sweeping the Jews into the Mediterranean?

2900  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Nuclear War, WMD issues on: February 11, 2010, 12:12:46 PM
For Israel the threat are probably the opposite.

Israel is screwed.

Iran's regimes intentions could not be more clear.

Could a miracle occur and there be a topple of the present regime?

Otherwise war is the only way Jews in Israel will survive IMO.

Again the world idles while Jew haters prepare for war with fanatical arming.

Where are you now Soros?  Of all people.
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