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2851  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iran on: March 08, 2010, 09:39:27 AM
"That Bill Clinton?"

Your riight.  I guess it is natural that I used to think every time it can't get worse then the Clintons we now have the "Phoney ONE".

As much as Clinton was/is a total dishonest liberal I still never thought he was some sort of manifestion of an American hating Communist.

2852  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iran on: March 07, 2010, 02:35:28 PM
Agreed.  Now on Drudge Iran is reporting they have cruise missles now.

In my living room and in my amatuer opinion the only way Israel can stop them is to use nuclear weapons.

There is no reason not to take the Mullahs at their word that they mean what they say about wiping the Jews out of Israel.

Thinking it through the potential consequences are horrendous, and yes will lead to another 1000 years of Muslim revenge.  That said the only other option is for the Jews in Israel to await their own deaths.

Because of inaction over the years the only way to stop the proliferation of nuclear weapons by rogues is to use nuclear weapons.

And as noted before my impression, is that the US has already decided against such a move and is now thinking some sort of containment.  But containment can't work.  Isn't that obvious?

If I wasn't born a Jew would I actually think the US should bomb Iran with nucs or otherwise to save Israel?

Could I expect the goyam to do that for us? 

I don't know.

I wonder what Clinton would have done.  Hillary talks a bit tougher than the phoney One.  Yet clearly she works for him and has to be constrained by his policies.  Just wondering out loud.  As much as I dislike Hill/Bill I don't beleive that either could have been nearly as bad as this guy.

The billboard sign out West that portrayed W with the words, "miss me yet" could (bite my tongue) even be applied by me for Bill.

2853  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Romney on Health Care on: March 07, 2010, 02:20:08 PM
Romney interview by Chris Wallace this AM.  In general, I like his message about promoting the greatness of America not talking it down like the present guy at the top. 

With regard to the topic of health care,

His responses to the charge that the health plan he signed in Mass makes him the wrong guy to be a spokesperson for the Repubs on the issue were totally unconvincing.  He danced around the charge that Mass health premiums are 27% higher than anywhere else in the nation.  He claimed that the cahrge there is a multimillion dollar cost *overshoot* in the allowed annual budget for health care was wrong and it was the opposite.

He keeps saying that 98% of the people in Mass are insured and he brings up again the person with brain cancer who, if resided in another state would have died for lack of insurance.  Here in NJ there are poeple without insurance who undoubtedly cannot get decent routine care for chronic conditions but I know of no person with cancer that cannot somehow get coverage, charity care, medicaid, or help from the community, churches, Jewish charity organizations, etc.

He also claims that there is no free lunch.  Everyone pays into the system.  Yet he failed to explain that or go into any detail.

In conclusion - I agree with critics on the health care debate - he is absolutely the wrong guy to be a spokesperson for it on a national level.

2854  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / just a matter of time on: March 06, 2010, 02:12:33 PM
Till we start to see the same here.  I have a feeling the guy at the Pentagon is only just for starters.

***Violent protests hit Greece as German backing sought
Mar 5 10:03 AM US/Eastern

Greek police clashed with demonstrators protesting sweeping budget cuts Friday as the government sought support from Germany to help it avoid default, only to be told not to expect a single cent.
Police fired tear gas after a union leader was struck and hurt by youths, an AFP reporter on the scene said, during protests against sweeping new budget and spending cuts announced Wednesday.

The violence erupted as Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou was to meet German Chancellor Angela Merkel later Friday, with Germany critical to any eurozone effort to help Greece restore its market credibility and already signalling it was not prepared to offer financial assistance.

Parliament meanwhile approved the budget and spending cuts worth 4.8 billion euros (6.5 billion dollars) announced by Papandreou on Wednesday as he sought to secure EU backing.

Papandreou told Germany's Frankfurter Allgemeine newspaper he was "not asking for money" but other forms of support.

Greek aid "unnecessary"

"We need support from the European Union and our partners to obtain credit on the markets at better conditions. If we do not receive this aid, we will not be able to enact the changes we foresee."

But speaking ahead of the Merkel-Papandreou talks, Germany's Economy Minister Rainer Bruederle said Berlin would not provide Greece with "one cent."

"Papandreou said that he didn't want one cent -- in any case the German government will not give one cent," Bruederle told reporters.

Luxembourg's Jean-Claude Juncker, who acts as the formal head in finance matters for the 16 nations that share euro, said he believed the Greek measures meant that Athens would not now need EU aid.

Greeks, Germans meet over finanical crisis

"The commitments taken by the Greek government are clearly paving the way towards an exit" from its debt and deficit crisis, Juncker said.

Juncker reiterated the agreed line among European Union leaders that they "stand ready to take coordinated and determined action if necessary (but) ... I don't think this action will be needed."

Europe's biggest economy, Germany is widely seen as the most likely candidate to help prevent a Greek default, which would be disastrous for the 16-nation eurozone.

But there is huge opposition in Germany against such a move, with angry editorials slamming alleged Greek corruption and wasteful spending and Merkel allies even suggesting Greece should sell some of its islands to free up cash.

There was also anger aplenty on the streets of Athens Friday.

Several thousand Communist protesters demonstrated in front of parliament as it voted on the latest austerity package.

"We say no to anti-popular measures, to taxes and allowance cuts," a Communist banner said.

Greece's two main unions brought traffic to a standstill with a public sector strike. No public transport ran in Athens in the morning, all Greek airports were to close for a four-hour period and giant traffic jams clogged the centre of the capital.

State hospitals ran on skeleton staff, while teachers, state and private media groups were also hit by the strike. Even the police union called on its members to join protests organised for the day.

Addressing parliament, Finance Minister George Papaconstantinou said the state was paying 26 billion euros in civil servant salaries, up 50 percent in the last five years.

"Where did this money go? Each and every minister would give benefits to whomever they wanted," Papaconstantinou said.

The government on Wednesday increased sales, tobacco and alcohol taxes and cut public sector holiday allowances. Pensions were also frozen in a package worth the equivalent of around two percent of gross domestic product (GDP).

Athens has promised the European Union that it will reduce its public deficit this year by four percentage points from 12.7 percent.

Merkel has welcomed the Greek package as "an important step" towards cutting its budget deficit and restoring trust in Athens and the euro.

Needing to borrow money urgently to pay its bills, Greece successfully raised an urgently needed 5.0 billion euros (6.8 billion dollars) via a bond issue on Thursday.

But it had to pay an interest rate of some 6.3 percent or about twice the rate at which Germany can borrow.

Greece's borrowing costs shot up late last year when it was hit with a triple downgrade by credit agencies after revealing that its official budget deficit figures had been grossly under-reported.

Copyright AFP 2008, AFP stories and photos shall not be published, broadcast, rewritten for broadcast or publication or redistributed directly or indirectly in any medium***
2855  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: March 05, 2010, 11:57:54 AM
Entitlement state

I psoek with one of my patients who lived through the 30's.  I said I thought times must have been terrible with bread lines etc.
I asked him though if times were in some ways worse now or worse then.
Many people now really question the future viability of the US.  Did people think that then?

He thought about it while answering.  He didn't say yes or no.  Just that it was really a "different" world back then.
People didn't expect what they expect now.  They were [hardier].  they learned to go through garbage dumps.  They grew their own food in gardens.

No one expected unemployment, pensions, free health care, medicare, social security.

So I guess they didn't look at the future of the US as being in jeopardy as we do today. 

I guess we didn't have the foreign threats we have now as well.

I asked him which is worse:

People on bread lines or a government that keeps expanding doles?

He didn't answer.  I think he just didn't have a chance to think it over.

To me this is the prime question facing us today (at least on the domestic front).
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2856  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / gerrymandering 2000 sytle - no more. on: March 04, 2010, 03:01:18 PM
Interesting take by DM.  Gerrymandering was for incubent, not party advantage in 2000.

By Dick Morris 03.3.2010 Published on TheHill.com on March 2, 2010

In U.S. politics, all elections are not created equal. It’s OK to lose the state legislative and gubernatorial elections held on years ending in 2, 4, 6 or 8. But you can’t afford to lose those held in years that end in 0. Those are the reapportionment elections.


With the governorships evenly divided and almost all of the state legislatures, the party that loses the decadal election stands to lose control over congressional reapportionment. And, therefore, to lose control of the House of Representatives for a decade.

When Obama persists with his unpopular healthcare proposals, he is dooming his party not just to defeat in 2010, but to losses throughout the coming decade.

The reapportionment of 2000 was a kinder, gentler reapportionment. Except in Texas, where former Rep. Tom DeLay (R) took no prisoners, the two parties concluded sweetheart deals to draw lines that favored the incumbents on both sides of the aisle. In California, for example, the lines so protected Democratic and Republican opponents that there is only one vulnerable Democrat (Jerry McNerney) out of 54 congressmen from that state.

In Iowa and Arizona, reapportionment was handled, as it should be everywhere, by a nonpartisan commission that is prohibited from considering party preferences or incumbency in drawing the lines. But in the other 48, don’t count on the kinder and gentler reapportionment rules of 2000 to apply.

The partisan divide, fostered by Obama’s ruthless use of his majorities, has become so wide and embittered that Republican legislative leaders and governors will press every advantage they can to gain ascendancy. And they should!

Tip O’Neill said that all politics is local. Not anymore. In 2010, all politics is national. The merits or demerits of each individual candidate count for little. Party counts for all.

Voters have come to understand and debunk the Myth of the Moderate Democrat. The fiscal-conservative-sounding, pro-life Democrat who campaigns for office promising to balance the budget, hold down taxes and fight for our values is the same one who marches right into the halls of the House on the first day of the session and votes for Nancy Pelosi for Speaker, Charlie Rangel for chairman of Ways and Means and Henry Waxman for Energy and Commerce. It is that one vote that permits Obama’s radical agenda to pass.

Voters realize that it does not matter if their local moderate Democrat breaks ranks on this bill or that one. That first vote to let the Democrats organize the House is the crucial one. From then on, Pelosi doesn’t really need him and will let him vote no to assuage his district and get reelected.

Presidents only lose when they get stuck in scandal or in their own misguided convictions. So it was with Johnson and Vietnam, Nixon and Watergate, Ford and the pardon, Reagan and Iran-Contra, Bush and the recession, Clinton and Lewinsky and Bush-43 and Iraq. Now Obama is repeating the lamentable history of his predecessors by getting stuck in the mire of his own ideology over healthcare.

So in the elections of 2010, Republicans, independents and even some Democrats (Obama’s rating is now down to 43 percent in Rasmussen) will vote a straight Republican ticket. Gone is the chic notion that party doesn’t matter and one should vote for the individual. Obama has ended those days. Now Democrats can expect the same kind of swath of destruction that will obliterate their congressional and Senate majorities to destroy their hold on statehouses and legislatures. And on the 2011 reapportionment.
2857  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Claims made for "natural" products on: March 04, 2010, 02:53:07 PM
This is what I am talking about.  Quacks making a buck suckering people into buying natural substances with false claims.
These substances alone or in combination are supposed to suppress appetite?  Or cause weight loss by some other magic?
FYI, caffeine is actually considered an appetite stimulant:

"citrus aurantium, the pills contain guarana and coffee bean extract".

I am glad she is being sued.  I am saddened to see her say something like I standby my products etc.

What is the logic to make pharmaceutical companies spend a billion dollars to show a drug works and go after them for millions when a rare problem shows up but otherwise ok for quacks to sell snake oil by making up nonsense claims of efficacy just because it is "natural"?   Wasn't a cereal maker just slapped by the FDA for making some sort of heart claims on one of it's products?

 'Biggest Loser' trainer Jillian Michaels hit with third lawsuit over weight loss supplement pills
BY Rosemary Black
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Thursday, February 18th 2010, 2:25 PM
 
Haaseth/NBC/© NBC Universal, Inc.Jillian Michaels, who whips contestants into shape on NBC's 'The Biggest Loser,' is facing a series of lawsuits over her brand of weight loss supplements. Related NewsArticles'Biggest Loser' trainer Jillian Michaels sued over weight loss supplement pillsJillian Michaels weight loss pills won't help shed long term pounds: experts“Biggest Loser” celeb trainer Jillian Michaels isn’t winning any support from dieters frustrated with her weight-loss supplements.

A third lawsuit against the Jillian Michaels Maximum Strength Calorie Control pills was filed Tuesday in Los Angeles County Court, according to Us Weekly.

Kathy Hensley charges that the supplements are made with a “potentially lethal” ingredient, citrus aurantium, which can in rare cases cause heart problems and high blood pressure, according to Us Weekly. Hensley, who’s suing for less than $5,000, also names the supplements’ maker Thin Care, Basic Research and Walgreens.

Michaels, 36, who calls herself “America’s Toughest Trainer,” told Us Weekly in a statement after the first lawsuit was filed that the claims against her supplements are “entirely without merit.” Besides citrus aurantium, the pills contain guarana and coffee bean extract.

“I stand behind all my products,” Michaels’ statement said.

ThinCare also responded to Us Weekly: “We are confident we will prevail.”
2858  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: March 04, 2010, 02:24:16 PM
"And so it was resolved before they left that day when Sen. Jon Kyl read from the CBO report saying that premiums would indeed rise under Obamacare, and Rep. Eric Cantor tried to explain to President Obama, "We just can't afford this. This government can't afford it, businesses can't afford it." Obama then retreated to saying, well, the premiums would be higher because his plan mandated richer benefits."

That's interesting!  Not one peep of this in the main stream propaganda machine.
Their pundits, and "news" anchors all came out in a chorus and said Obama stood his ground.  One even said something to the effect that the chosen one shot down all of the Republican attempts to "rattle him".

From now on when anyone disagrees with the One they need to tell *him* he needs to get the facts right.
2859  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Way Forward for the American Creed on: March 04, 2010, 09:31:02 AM
Crafty,
You may want to tune into Levin.  6 to 9 EST on 77 Am radio.  I agree with Levin on most things, but I am still not sure of his prescriptions for this country's ills.

Actually I meant Sir Reagan - not the (conservative) son who I also like - unlike the son he had with Nancy who is a quack hell bent on proving he disagrees with his father on probably every political issue.
2860  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / The chosen one was radical leftist at Univ of Chicago on: March 04, 2010, 09:27:07 AM
I didn't get to hear the whole interview but Marc Levin had a professor from the Univ of Chicago on last PM.
He knew "Barack".
This professor is of gun ownership.  He pointed out that Bama was clearly *to the left* of a "left" academic culture.
He said he had no illusions that other professors were against his stand on guns but Bama was clearly the ONLY one who would come out clear as day and state he was against anyone owning guns.

Indeed he said his impression was that Bama shunned him as he shunned anyone he did not agree with.

He was NOT a conciliator like he was falsely portrayed in his campaign and as the lefist supporters make him out to be now.

He was/is a strict ideologue.  This professor made it clear that his experience with Bama was that he was very rigid, uncompromising, set in his beliefs, and would surround himself only with those he agreed with.

He saw no evidence that the Bama would like to surround himself with those he disagreed with like has been stated and advertised.

Additionally he only came to Univ. of Chicago as a stepping stone for politics.  He was not an academic, he was not interested in research and he only was hired as a selling point for running for the Senate.

To me this just corraborates the obvious - this guy, because of his gift of the gab, is chosen to lead the far left radical agenda.

There is NO doubt in my mind the people have somehow been hoodwinked into thinking this guy is a conciliator, compromiser, just left of center, patriot.  All the circumstantial evidence all but proves that this guy is exactly what Beck, and others warn.

He is some sort of socialist, communist or whatever.  He is radical to everything this country was founded on, was built on, was meant to be and it is a total CON game to say otherwise.

Very interesting radio program on Levin's show last night.  I am sorry I missed some of it.  Usually he gets the usual average call in but this one was quite interesting.

I don't know if it is possible to somehow get this into the msm which continues to protect and cover the true nature of their ideologue.  WE always hear from the MSM that anyone who says anything akin to this is some sort of way out there loon when the only way out loon is Bama.

Also one defense is "well his policies are not radical", or some mirror Bush etc.

My response is that is only a cover.  His real agenda, his real dream is clearly some sort of communism or some iteration or manifastation of a socialist country and eventually the entire world.

I don't know how we can get the mainstream America to wake up.  It appears some independents have but the polls are incredibly stable.  I guess even worse is that apparantly many people in America (not real Americans) seem to be happy to have socialism of some sort.   
2861  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Way Forward for the American Creed on: March 02, 2010, 04:12:00 PM
Crafty
I agree.  I thought some years ago the "compassionate conservative" idea was sound to soften the stereotype of Republicans as cold harded for those who are of the lower socioeconomic ladder.  Now I have come to believe this was a mistake.
But I am still not personally sure we should be.  I still am not sure I believe in Levin/Reagan/Hannity/Limbaugh style conservative as being the best alternative.
I just don't know, am not smart enough, and/or just can't get my mind to get a good handle on what is the best way to make this country sound and keep it on top.
2862  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Romney - comeback? on: March 02, 2010, 01:48:09 PM
I'll have to check this out.  My nephew was asked to help write this but he is doing something else instead.  He is I think a bit second guessing that maybe he should have helped on the book but personally, while I generally like Romney - I think he falls just a bit short of the charisma needed to get the no. one spot.  But only time will tell for sure.

****The title of Mitt Romney's new book, "No Apology: The Case for American Greatness," is a not-so-subtle jab at the visits President Obama made overseas when he first took office, derided by the Right as the "American Apology Tour."

Behar calls the former governor "hunky" during a discussion about politics.Romney's book as a whole, however, may best be remembered not for the contrasts it offers with the incumbent president but for the contrasts it presents with "Going Rogue," the best-selling memoir of Sarah Palin, a potential Romney rival for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination.

Where Palin's book is a mix of score settling and juicy anecdotes, Romney's book consists of a 64-point plan for strengthening the United States and countless references to what he has been reading. Palin's book titillated audiences with her take on her husband without his shirt on ("Dang, I thought. Divorce Todd? Have you seen Todd?").****
2863  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants on: March 02, 2010, 01:04:01 PM
Do we know why he is retiring?

Frankly, he is the first and as far as I know the only one who is telling the truth here.  I wonder why he is retiring.  You worked with him?  Wow.

I don't see tax cut alone getting us out of this mess.
Printing funny money will only dig us into this deeper.

We have to wake up Americans and advise them that without sacrifice and hard work we will not get out of this.  We can't have everyone retire when they feel like it and then give less desirable jobs away to people marching into the country having babies, utilizing medicaid, our schools, taking money under the table, or those who come in legally bringing all their relatives inclucing ancietn parents over and putting them honestly or dishonestly on their busines's books for a few years and then qualifying for Medicare while the rest of us spent our whole lives putting into it - print worthless paper money - and expect that this coutnry will not fall apart. 

(Of course if we tax all the liberals in the entertainment/media/academia industries 95% that might help the rest of us.)

2864  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Jim Bunning - a hero on: March 02, 2010, 09:46:48 AM
At first my reaction to Jim Bunning was one of "what the heck is he thinking".

Now I think he is a hero and right on the money.

This country has to stop the sob stories, the false compassion and the feckless spending for everything under the sun.

We are BROKE.  When is it going to sink in?

We have to stop the dole and people will have to take jobs they don't want.

Today Medicare cuts to providers of 21% kick in.  The Congress passed a 30 day reprieve of this but the Senate has yet to roll this back.  Doctors/hospitals go through this bullying every year.  They gov holds this over our heads and then every time at the last minute act like they are doing us a favor by pushing it out another year.  This is their yearly bargaining chip.

OK, I'll take a pay cut.  But I ain't about to continue paying for everyone else to sit on their rears and collect pay checks while I work like a dog just to watch a large amount confiscated every tax quarter.

My health, auto, malpractice insurances keep going up every year for no reason yet I cannot raise my rates.

I am willing to work till I am 70 or longer, if I can.

I am not willing to pay for the pensions of all these people who retire at 50 and live for another 30 years.

I never agreed to all that.

Jim Bunning is the only one with enough guts to stand up against the madness.  Of course they reported he is retiring.

As Krauthammer said there is no hope otherwise any legislator will follow in his footsteps Rep or Dem.

This country is and should just go in the garbage.

And we have the richest man supporting the HC bill.  I agree we HAVE to do something but a gigantic overhaul with single payer all under the control of liberal academic elites is not the answer.  He is wrong to say that this bill is better than nothing.  Why should we make it worse?  WHy should most Americans suffer for the minority?

I doubt Buffet would agree to HMO medicine.  anymore than our fealess courageous legislators who all will continue to have access to the best care.

I have no prlbem with the President getting first rate care (including CT colonoscopy that was recently NOT approved for payment by Medicare for anyone else)  but Nancy Pelosi?  She is replaceable.
2865  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness *&his supporters* on: March 01, 2010, 02:11:25 PM
I saw part of this on Fareed Zakaria another leftist from the MSM.  I think it sums up the denial of the left over the peopel's rejection of their agenda. It is never the policy per se that is criticized.  It is always that they didn't do well delivering the message.
It isn't their Rx for the US is not wrong it is just that Obama or people around him, or Congress etc just didn't educate the people about the truth.  Their followers in the MSM keep pounding the same message across their media outlets such as Jonathan Alter, Howard Fineman and the NYT crew and the rest of the liberals.

I can only hope the Dems get reamed good in the next two elections once and for all.

****George Soros tells CNN: I’m not satisfied with Barack Obama, but he saved country from recession
CNN — posted by halboedeker on February, 28 2010 11:04 AM Discuss This: Comments(343) | Add to del.icio.us | Digg it
CNN’s Fareed Zakaria introduced George Soros as “the billionaire investor, financier, speculator, philanthropist and thinker.”

[A note: A lot of people have weighed in on this blog post about Soros and his life. If you want to know more, you can read his biography here.]

Zakaria on his “Fareed Zakaria GPS” this morning also noted that Soros was one of Barack Obama’s biggest supporters. Zakaria asked, “Are you satisfied with the job Barack Obama has done?”

Soros said he wasn’t. Soros wanted the banks nationalized, but added that Obama “made the political decision that that is un-American, will not be accepted.”

Yet Soros had praise for Obama’s overall leadership.

“He is paying a very heavy price for actually saving the country from going into a very deep recession or a depression, because people don’t — haven’t experienced it,” Soros said.

“He wanted to be the great uniter and he wanted to carry the country, sort of bring it together. But the other side has absolutely no incentive to do it.  So it takes two to tango.  So that approach has failed.”

But Obama “got the message” when Massachusetts elected Scott Brown, a Republican, as Ted Kennedy’s successor, Soros said.

“I hope that, actually, now, he’s [Obama's] taking the health care back to Congress and overcoming the filibuster — the 60 percent vote requirement,” Soros said. “I think that’s the right reaction.  So he’s sort of taking a tough stance.  And that may be the turning point.  It depends on how he follows it up.”

So what do you say to that?



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Mr. Soros is the epitomy of the huge financiers of the world who cannot step away from their own elite ego and will stop at nothing to dominate the world via economic and financial manipulation. For the largest donr to be critical of his minion means something major is in tthe works and his comments are just a rue to further cloud thebigger picture of world financial control. Let Americans use common sense and American values to steer us away from the reef of disater that is upon us. Shame on you Progressives for selling your souls.

Reply Posted by: Mark Thatcher | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:13 PM

A most excellent comment!

Reply Posted by: Ed R | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:15 PM

Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security are broke, broken, unfair, unstable, full of fraud as is congress and the presidency. They are all train wrecks, they have all come off the tracks, it’s up to us to vote them all out of office. I would not let these people wash my car. It’s been said that random picks from any phone book would make better representative’s, throw the bums out – all of them!!!

Reply Posted by: LawFinder | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:16 PM

Is this the same George Soros who is placing hedge bets on Greece ?

Why isn’t he considered an evil rich guy by the left ?

Reply Posted by: tankfixer | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:18 PM

Michigan out of work…..while I am sorry for your unfortunate circumstance, and wish you all the best in getting back to work, I don’t see how the government taking over 17% of the economy (health care) is going to do anything except give them another stick to beat us with.

Obama and all of his cronies, Reid, Pelosi, et al, and especially Soros are very dangerous people. Soros wants to destroy the United States as a constitutional republic. By buying dishonest politicians like obama, and with the influence of his massive financial empire, he hopes to continue duping the public into thinking that this is good for them.

We,as a nation, are at a turning point. I will tell you this, though. There are many who will not accept the socialist views of Soros and his puppets. They (the leftists) tell you, and you believe, that the health care mess is the fault of the eeeeeeevil insurance companies! Just like the same bs you have heard about big oil, big auto, big banks….

Ingenuity and the free market can bring us out of this mess. It will take hard work and good ideas.

The obama/soros syncophants believe that the government can “give” it to them, it’s free, we’re all equal, utopia is here, bla, bla, ad nauseum!

They’re going to “give” it to us all right!

The old cliche “There ain’t no free lunch” seems appropriate here. Trust me, YOU WILL PAY FOR IT, one way or another, you will pay for it.
It’s a giant lobster kettle. Before you know it, the water will be boiling and it’s too late. You cannot jump out. They own you.

Again, good luck with your situation. Please look long and hard at what the leftists propose. Read your history. Don’t fall into the trap.

Reply Posted by: tucasfacious | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:22 PM

Sure, nationalizing the banks might be “un-American,” but most likely Obama didn’t let it happen because he “knows those guys.”
How about bailing out the banks at taxpayer expense? Un-American? Nooo…
The only banks that need to be “nationalized” are the Federal Reserve banks. To NOT do so is “un-American.”

Reply Posted by: Sophia | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:22 PM

Soros is an evil man.

Reply Posted by: Lee Grikschat | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:23 PM

Mark, ya I am jealous of him to!

Reply Posted by: Scott | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:32 PM

Soros thinks of himself as a Robin Hood. He steals from the rich and spends the money the way he thinks it ought to be spent. He ignores the reality that people are lazy, selfish, and greedy. They take without giving. They are poor because they are stupid, not because they don’t have money.

Reply Posted by: JimmyDaGeek | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:35 PM

The Federal Reserve has been a problem since its inception. The Federal Reserve needs to ba abolished. It has nothing to do with the government and has been hijacking the economic system of the US since its beginning in 1910.

Reply Posted by: tucasfacious | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:36 PM

Oh I guess Obama took Soros the greedy creep’s money and didn’t do as Soros told him. Soros needs to be brought down to earth; the man is the picture of arrogance, greed and total megalomania. The man is as dangerous as they come.

Reply Posted by: Beli | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:43 PM

“Is this the same George Soros who is placing hedge bets on Greece ?
Why isn’t he considered an evil rich guy by the left ?”

Because the left have different standards for their own – especially the rich&famous ones. How do Hollywood’s elite liberals get away with the crap they do and still be held up as role models?

Fame and fortune seem to erase all blots if you’re on the left.

Reply Posted by: Dave in Dallas | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:44 PM

Soros is an absolutely DISGUSTING, marxist piece of garbage! He only wants to nationalize the banks because he ALREADY pulls the strings. He would have never pushed for it BEFORE he was ready to do so. When you hold the strings to the very institution that would run the banks, then you don’t have to worry about the institution getting in the way of your further gains in the federally hijacked banking system. He should be put on trial for attempted treason.

Reply Posted by: Susan Harkins | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:45 PM

George Soros, you are such a hypocrite. Obama is doing exactly what you paid him to do and that is to create chaos for the United States. That’s why your puppet smiles so much. He doesn’t care if any of his proposed changes come to fruition. He’s just here to cause problems.

Reply Posted by: Gerri Larsen | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:45 PM

I used to be the economic developer in a small town in Texas when a women from California asked to meet me and the mayor of our town. She lectured us for 20 minutes telling us what a wonderful town we had and why. Then, she spoke for 30 minutes about all the things we should change. At the end I told her, “If we made all the changes you just suggested all the good things you first talked about would no longer be here”. That is Soro’s, he made billions in a system he now despises and I guess his philosophy now is “I got mine, screw You!

Reply Posted by: Larry | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:49 PM

I ONLY HOPE THE MEDICAL DEATH PANEL WILL MAKE A QUICKER DECISION ON THAT GUY — GEORGE SOROS….PLSE PULL HIS PLUG ASAP !!!

Reply Posted by: TheLonePatriot | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 12:59 PM

hELLO?
SOROS OWNS OBAMA
\Thanks in part to funding from benefactors such as billionaire George Soros, the Center for American Progress has become in just five years an intellectual wellspring for Democratic policy proposals, including many that are shaping the agenda of the new Obama administration.\

Edwin Chen
Bloomberg
November 18, 2008

Reply Posted by: DANTE | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:00 PM

Soros is the epitome of a dangerous, evil man. He hates our country and is out to destroy it.

Reply Posted by: GodBlessAmerica | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:02 PM

I have no doubt he will be betting against the dollar soon and making a ton of money. Obama will have done what he paid him to do… without even knowing…

Reply Posted by: Thomass | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:14 PM

My question is this. Why can’t these rich liberals come out of the closet and “shell out” their money for free health care. I am more than happy with my health care insurance the company gave us…

Reply Posted by: Jon | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:19 PM

Soros is the master behind the stooge that now occupies “our” White House. The American people are waking up to the agenda of the “progressives”…who by the way, dominate the strings in the so-called “mainstream” media. Can’t wait until next November! Revenge of the American people and the death of the Democratic Party!

Reply Posted by: RJ | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:19 PM

I’ve read and listen to Mr. Soros for years and years now, I have concluded he uses interviews as an opportunity to spin the future to confuse the people and set up the investment public to be flat footed for his future trades. He always knows the topics to be discussed, he always goes to a trusted interviewer, ie CFR global citizen Zakaria. Hes a trader- hes like the rest of us, he really just wants to make a hugh pile of money, like the rest of the sociopath investment banks, who think they operate in a vacum, George just sees the weakness and corruption in the left is where he sees the real easy money. Working in politics and when he makes foolish statements, amounts to playing his hand. Entities, Big G’s, and traders like Soros are all the same.

Reply Posted by: jake D. | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:22 PM

tucasfacious:
I am assuming you are a student of “Secrets of the Temple”….. Quite a fascinating book!!!!!

Reply Posted by: HOTHEAD | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:22 PM

Ahhhhh, poor old Georgie. Little Rahmbo and Obama didn’t deliver for him….well, other than the billions plus drilling venture off of Brazil. Soros is extraordinarily dangerous as is Warren Buffet. Both of these men are doing their very best to manipulate the US and break the nation into three segmented populations for personal control and influence. Presidents need to be vetted for past and present contacts. The last look at the White House roster for visitors, had Soros listed with four visits. The guy is throwing up a facade for something else he wants.

Reply Posted by: tom adams | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:23 PM

Obama must be doing something right if Robert Soros doesn’t like him.
Soros is pushing for a one-world-governemnt

Reply Posted by: bonniwheeler | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:24 PM

Soros has funded Obama and his ilk for quite some time. This man is one pathetic human being.

http://nymag.com/news/politics/30634/

The picture is telling.

Reply Posted by: Neal N. Lichmee | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:25 PM

B.O. Stinks … from the get go, I spotted him as an empty suit … a smiling bull$hitter. NO EXPERIENCE … NO BACKGROUND … NO GRADES TO JUDGE HIM BY (To say nothing about saying nothing about his birth certificate) … LIE AFTER LIE documented on video … total disregard for our troops (Bush met EVERY family who lost a loved one). And since I mentioned Dubya, the peace & love people did everything they could to vilify the man, but conveniently forget B.O.’s ADMITTED drug use. Yes, folks America needs a secret society of socialists in the White House. BTW, ever notice how B.O. cocks his head … look up Mussolini for a comparison. God Bless America … we need it ASAP!

Reply Posted by: Rod | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:25 PM

George Soros should pack his bags and move back to Europe and take his socialist ideas with him. Who needs a billionaire who makes his money on sleazy deals that steal money from the middle class.

Reply Posted by: Richard | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:26 PM

Tom Adams, You’re half right. B.O. is pushing for a one world government as well. These remarks by Soros are just for public consumption, i.e. they are NOT to be trusted.

Reply Posted by: John Smith | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:45 PM

Wouldn’t it be good if there was a way to measure the intelligence and education of the posters on comment sections like these?

80 years of gradually lowered educational standards and the dumbing down the working class have led us to the position we are in…. a population who is easily manipulated by emotional buzzwords and trigger phrases.

Reply Posted by: davidius | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:50 PM

I”m sick of hearing about soros and buffet and what thier “opinions”are.Neither one gives a damn what happens to america,just as long as they get to manipulate behind the scenes and make thier precious dollars.I’m all for free markets,have none of the lefts disdain for business,however there’s always been something rotten in denmark with soros and buffet.We need to bounce these fools or take em out.

Reply Posted by: solgreatman | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:55 PM

There is a no more despicable, evil human being slithering upon this earth than George Sorros (not his real name). The great “money changer” who almost bankrupted the British pound and threw the Malaysian economy and currency system into chaos to staisfy his own greed and maniacal lust for wealth.

To call this narcistic progressive elite or his Marxist socio-political orthadoxy, which cares absolutely nothing about the human condition “philanthropic” is the equivalent of calling Dracula a saint.

Reply Posted by: Lightning Jack | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:56 PM

“a student of “Secrets of the Temple”….. ” HOTHEAD

HOTHEAD…..Yes, has been a while since I read it. Probably 10 years.
Greider lays it out quite succinctly. Now, I must re-read it. Not a political book, very centered. No bull$h1t Just tells it like it is. Another is “The Creature from Jekyll Island” by G. Edward Griffin.

The whole Fed is smoke and mirrors. It’s a scam, a parlor trick, and most people fall for it as they do not see the rabbit is already in the hat. It always has been. Once people study it and really see the way the Federal Reserve works and who is working it, it’s true. You will never trust a politician again. The Fed needs to go, but how? It would probably take more than most are willing to do to get rid of it. I believe some have tried. Many of those are not with us anymore.

Remember-In a hyper-inflated environment, the last one holding Federal Reserve notes loses.

Remember

Reply Posted by: tucasfacious | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:57 PM

All of the programs cited as broke have been pillaged by politicians similar to benefit bank accounts belonging to employees when the company is purchased. This is not the only area of durress as the same symptoms appear throughout all departments of the government.

Every time a decent program is started, no management, and no one to hold accountable seems to be SOP and the downfall of the program starts the day the program goes into effect.

Realizing the problem is a good start towards solving the problem, but then ongoing duedilligence MUST be adhered to in order to prevent backsliders re-emerging.

Reply Posted by: Bob | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 2:00 PM

Is George want his money back? Like from the off shore credit card transactions that flooded Obama’s campaign to avoid reporting limits?
Poor George, talks down gold then doubles down on his investment as the news hits the market? Ya, I am really concerned about the Leftist promoter, Mr. Soros. Oh, that we could trust this man in any legal endevor that was not anti-Capitalist. But, most of us judge on past performance not promises.

Reply Posted by: BlueSpringsMo | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 2:01 PM

George Soros is getting what he paid for. He wanted the left wing to run the country. He just did not bank on the fact that Obama would forget who was telling him what do everyday. It’s Soros and the Unions.Soros has one wish and that is to have total control of the world and its money. If Cap Trade come about, he will reap trillions in the markets and you can bet your bottom dollar that he is going to start pushing for it. Money runs the world not good intentions. Obama has left us Hopless and with very little Change in our pocket.

Reply Posted by: gabbie | Monday, March 1, 2010 at 2:08 PM

George Soros is a Marxist loving creep that takes advantage of our capitalist system by betting against it by supporting fellow Marxists like Obama. Soros is betting against the dollar doing all he can to make sure the dollar falls as well as the Euro so he can make another trillion $$. If America fails I wonder where Soros will find another safe haven that he can destroy to make more $$?***




2866  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Epidemics: Bird Flu, TB, etc on: February 27, 2010, 01:07:51 PM
Safe Care Campaign.

Yes hand hygiene could help.  And yes more is and should be done towards this end.

Also of benefit may be to NOT sky dive for a living.

Kind of reminds me of the father of that young fellow in Iraq who had his head cut off on the internet blaming of course George Bush for it all.  He failed to remember his was walking around a war zone trying to start a computer business after the Iraq invasion.

Kind of fits the concept that no one wants to take responsibility for anything they do.  It is always some one else's fault.  The victimhood mentality.
2867  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness on: February 23, 2010, 11:15:00 AM
Of course the Dems are going nuts trying to capitalize on the Toyota thing and make it a political issue - which it certainly is not.
The Bama is looking out for us.  What a joke.

"Toyota vows quality shake-up, faces criminal probe
         
Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI), chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee, begins the hearing on the "Response By Toyota and NUTS (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) to incidents of "sudden unintended acceleration" on Capitol Hill in Washington February 23, 2010. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque
On Tuesday February 23, 2010, 11:53 am
By Nobuhiro Kubo

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A top Toyota Motor Corp U.S. executive promised a quality shake-up on Tuesday as the Obama administration said it would hold the carmaker's chief to a pledge to address safety issues after massive recalls.

Congressional hearings over the next two days are critical for the world's largest automaker as it seeks to repair damage over unintended acceleration problems and braking issues that have led to the recall of more than 8.5 million vehicles around the world.

Criminal investigations are now being hinted at by subpoenas from the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission and a federal grand jury in New York.

Toyota's top-ranking American executive, Jim Lentz, will testify on Tuesday before a panel of the U.S. House Energy and Commerce committee in proceedings scheduled to start at 1100 EST.

Company President Akio Toyoda, grandson of Toyota's founder, will testify on Wednesday before a panel of the House Oversight and Government Reform committee.

In a statement prepared ahead of the hearings, U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said he would hold Toyoda to his assurance that the carmaker is working to address all safety issues.

In addition to Toyota executives, U.S. safety regulators will also be grilled on the question of why red flags were missed.

"The mood of the investigative committees going into these hearings is looking increasingly hostile toward Toyota," said Aaron Bragman, analyst at IHS Global Insight.

Adding to the Japanese automaker's deepening crisis on Monday, new documents surfaced which detailed how Toyota beat back U.S. safety regulators' efforts for a wider probe in 2007.

"From a public relations standpoint, this has been an unmitigated disaster from the start for Toyota, handled poorly by a team unfamiliar with major public relations catastrophes," Bragman said.

"The situation looks likely to get worse this week for Toyota, as now the company's advertising and public relations teams' attempts to win over the public and media seem disingenuous at best."

In testimony prepared for his appearance on Capitol Hill, Toyota's Lentz said: "We now understand that we must think differently when investigating complaints and communicate faster, better and more effectively with our customers and our regulators."

Mike Jackson, chief executive of AutoNation Inc, was one of several hundred Toyota dealers and workers who came to Washington on Tuesday as part of a campaign organized by the automaker to help win back popular and political support.

"I'm certain that once the vehicles have been repaired and production has resumed that going into March and April, that (Toyota's) sales will recover," Jackson told Reuters Insider.

In the wake of Toyota's massive recall, Consumers Union, the nonprofit publisher of Consumer Reports, issued a call on Tuesday for urgent changes to strengthen U.S. auto safety regulation.

It said that the U.S. safety regulatory system should be reformed to become more transparent and that the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration should have more funding and the ability to impose tougher sanctions.

PRELUDE TO TESTIMONY

In a preview of the line Toyota's president could take in his testimony, Toyoda said in a statement published in The Wall Street Journal he was committed to making sure Toyota learns from the crisis and changes its ways.

"It is clear to me that in recent years we didn't listen as carefully as we should -- or respond as quickly as we must -- to our customers' concerns," Toyoda said.

The extended apology from Toyoda came hours after Toyota said it had received a federal grand jury subpoena from the U.S. attorney's office in Manhattan on February 8.

The automaker also said the SEC had asked for documents related to unintended acceleration of Toyota vehicles and the company's disclosure policies. Toyota said it would cooperate with the investigations.

Toyota's U.S. shares were down 0.8 percent at $72.35 on the New York Stock Exchange on Tuesday morning, down more than 21 percent from their 12-month high reached last month.

(Additional reporting by Chang-Ran Kim and Kevin Krolicki; writing by Matthew Lewis, editing by Hugh Lawson, David Holmes and Dave Zimmerman)"

2868  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Jim Traficant on: February 23, 2010, 10:16:23 AM
This AM he was on CNN and sat through what was a rather condescending and at times smart alec interview by some well made up and bejeweled low-cut blouse female interviewer who rapped up at the end of the interview by saying thank you for being on and  you are always an interesting "character" all the while sitting smuggly with  shit eating grin on her face.
Personally I agreed with most of what he said.

The tax code is absolutely nuts, the illegal problem is NOT being addressed in this country but by both parties courting Latinos for votes and that we will now AGAIN, like fools give amnesty to people who take advantage of our laws our services and our country.

As for his statement we are in two wars we have no business bieng in I am less in agreement.  I just don't know enoughto have an opinion on this.

The money in politics, the money that is needed that helps keep the incumbants in power, the money that is needed that goes to the mass media for advertising.  It is a merry go round of scams, bribes, and back door back scratching.

Some say the internet will neutralize this but I am not so certain.



2869  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Radiation exposure - a real concern on: February 23, 2010, 09:26:30 AM
I think the radiation exposure to CT scans can very well be significant and over time (possibly decades) dangerous.

There is no question in my mind that CT scans are overused and used by many without the slightet regard to the radiation debit.

Doses are cummulative over time.

Many physicians seem to use CT scans like we used to order plain xrays.  The difference is that CT scans give a radiation does roughly 100 or more times that of a simple Xray.

I've seen some pts. getting 10, 15, 20, or more CT scans over a few years.

I don't know what some doctors are thinking. 

20 CT scans would be like getting 2000 Xrays.

You can't tell me that kind of radiation dose doesn't at least in a few patients cause cancer.
 
I would seriously recommend telling pts. to ask their doctor if there is an alternative when getting a CT scan or if it is really necessary before being told to get it.

Not that they aren't often needed, or that they don't offer many life saving pieces of information.

Just that they are definitely overused and I think the long term risks are only now just getting the attention they deserve.
2870  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / hotdogs can kill on: February 22, 2010, 09:47:45 AM
I know someone whose only son died choking on a hot dog.  This doesn't mean I am necessarily for more micromangement of our society:

"HealthDay Reporter by Amanda Gardner
healthday Reporter – 1 hr 39 mins ago
MONDAY, Feb. 22 (HealthDay News) -- The leading group of pediatricians in the United States is pushing for a redesign of common foods such as hot dogs and candies, along with new warning labels placed on food packaging, to help curb sometimes fatal incidents of child choking.

"We know what shape, sizes and consistencies pose the greatest risk for choking in children and whenever possible food manufacturers should design foods to avoid those characteristics, or redesign existing foods when possible, to change those characteristics to reduce the choking risk," said Dr. Gary Smith, immediate-past chairman of the American Academy of Pediatrics' Committee on Injury, Violence and Poison Prevention and lead author of the organization's new policy statement on preventing choking.
"Any food that has a cylindrical or round shape poses a risk," he pointed out. Smith said that hot dogs were high on the list of foods that could be redesigned -- perhaps the shape, although he said it would be up to the manufacturers to figure out the specifics.

Hard candies, on the other hand, could be designed so they're flat rather than round, said Smith, who is also director of the Center for Injury Research & Policy at Nationwide Children's Hospital in Columbus, Ohio.

The AAP policy statement appears in the March issue of Pediatrics and is the first such guidance on the subject from that group.

"There's a general recognition that more needed to be done to protect children from choking," according to Smith. "We have a number of laws and regulations that help prevent choking due to toys. There are no such similar regulations for food."

Health experts welcomed the suggestions.

"I think it's very reasonable to strengthen regulations to prevent choking injuries for children," said Dr. Lee Sanders, associate professor of pediatrics at the University of Miami Miller School of Medicine. "The most common cause of death for kids aged roughly 1 to 5 is choking but it's also one of the most common reasons for visits to the emergency room and, for kids who don't die of these injuries, sometimes there are long-lasting injuries or implications," Sanders said. "It's a significant public health issue."

"People should know that grapes are a choking hazard for a certain-age child, that hot dogs are of risk," added Dr. Mike Gittelman, associate professor of clinical pediatrics in the division of emergency medicine at Cincinnati Children's Hospital.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) said it would "carefully review the analysis and recommendations."

"The FDA is concerned about the deaths and serious injuries caused by choking," said agency spokeswoman Rita Chappelle. "We will also continue to consult with the Consumer Product Safety Commission on assessing choking hazards associated with food and take action against food products that are 'unfit for food' on a case-by-case basis."

Hot dogs are a prime offender, accounting for 17 percent of food-related asphyxiations in children under the age of 10, according to one study.

"If you were to take the best engineers in the world and asked them to design a perfect plug for a child's airway, you couldn't do better than a hot dog," Smith said. "It's the right size, right shape. It's compressible so it wedges itself in. When they're in that tight [it's] almost impossible, even with the correct training and the correct equipment, to get out. When it's wedged in tightly, that child is going to die."

Other high-risk foods include hard candy, peanuts and nuts, even peanut butter.

The policy statement called for the government to establish a "mandatory system . . . to label foods with appropriate warnings according to their choking risk, to conduct detailed surveillance and investigate food-related choking incidents, and to warn the public about emerging food-related choking hazards."

Manufacturers' responsibility would be to affix "choking hazard" labels to high-risk products and to consider shapes, sizes and textures when designing products.

"I think there should be a commitment from the entire industry to label not only hot dogs but all high-risk foods with some type of informational label that allows consumers to make informed decisions," Smith said, adding that he thought companies would figure out that "safety sells."

The AAP also called on parents, pediatricians and other health-care workers to pay more attention to the issue.

The Grocery Manufacturers Association (GMA) responded, but put special emphasis on the role of parents, teachers and other child care providers in helping keep kids safe.

"Food safety and consumer confidence is the number-one priority of the food and beverage industry. We applaud the attention the American Academy of Pediatrics is bringing to the prevention of choking among children," the GMA said in a statement.

"We especially agree that the education of parents, teachers, child care workers, and other child caregivers encouraging them to supervise and create safer environments for children is paramount to the prevention of choking among children. We also strongly agree that pediatricians, doctors and other infant and toddler care professionals should intensify choking prevention counseling including providing parents and care givers guidance on developmentally appropriate food selection for their children. We take our working relationships with FDA and USDA [U.S. Department of Agriculture] very seriously and look forward to continuing to work with the agencies to ensure that our products are as safe as possible," the GMA said."

2871  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants on: February 22, 2010, 09:34:25 AM
"The Left and the isolationist Right reckon that's no big deal"

Leading the isolationist Right is Pat Buchanan.  I have to say a recent column of his says it all (with regards to his true feelings about Jews).  According to him the problems we face in the Middle East are essentially the fault of the Jews.  He all but comes out and says it.  As a Jew, like Rachel it is hard not to be seriously offended. 
I've said before I really doubt if push comes to shove that most Americans will be willing to stick up for Israel.  I know some polls say otherwise but I don't believe them.

Of course Israel is trying to sell the concept that this is not just an Israeli problem it is a world problem.  I agree but of course I am biased.

Withou knowing the inside workings of the Bama administration superficially it really appears our fearless leader(s) has accepted a nuclear Iran. Tossed out on the cable talk shows the new strategy appears to be "containment", whatever that means.

All I can think of is John Bolten's warning to all who listened:

If anyone thinks Iran is a problem now just imagine what it will be like with nuclear weapons.
2872  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iraq on: February 21, 2010, 11:14:35 AM
It is easier to see why our military wants no part in provoking Iran when one looks at the map.
We have our troops to the west in Iraq and our troops to the east of Iran in Afghanistan.

No one appears to want to go the route of using nucs to destroy their capabilities.

It is obvious as to why but Bolton's simple and straight forward question makes me think that may be our best option:

"If anyone thinks Iran or the middle East is a problem now just imagine what it would be like with an Iran that has nucs" [on missles that can reach Europe and is a spark for a nuclear arms race among Middle Eastern monarchies.]

The choice is we either deal with it now or throw the dice and hope it goes away (regime change) or deal with an ever worse situation later.

And of course our economic situation just makes doing anything now even more a problem.
2873  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Haley Barbour on: February 21, 2010, 11:06:25 AM
Newt is great.  I just question his generalizable appeal.  He didn't exactly leave the Senate high up in the polls.

Barbour, I always recall was/is very well spoken, articulate.
He got rave reviews for his handling of Katrina in Mississippi from what I read.
Anyone have thoughts on him for Pres?
2874  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: The Price of Tyranny on: February 17, 2010, 05:24:13 PM
Marc Levin talks about the DDT fraud in his best seller, "Liberty and Tyranny".
2875  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Communicating with the Muslim World on: February 15, 2010, 06:07:05 PM
Today that meta-narrative is embraced across the Arab-Muslim political spectrum, from the secular left to the Islamic right. Deconstructing that story, and rebuilding a post-1979 alternative story based on responsibility, modernization, Islamic reformation and cross-cultural dialogue, is this generation’s challenge. I think it can happen, but it will require the success of the democratizing self-government movements in Iran and Iraq.

Well it is already been said that we should do all we can to promote democratizing Iraq, Iran etc.
But it looks like time is running out.

Iran appears to be on a trajectory to have nucs by then which some experts feel will spark an arms race.

The truth is the US is now too weak.

Iran knows it.

We offer peace and cooperation.  Or we offer to wipe out their nuclear capability.

That WAS the answer.  But I guess not anymore.  They will get the bomb.

And we will have half the nation paying for the debts of the other half.



2876  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Illegals on: February 15, 2010, 03:14:34 PM
I am not clear what Republicans stand for with regard to illegals.  Illegals seems to be equated with Latinos though it doesn't.

Obama's WH comes out with this which is reasonable to me:

"White House spokesman Adam Abrams said the president wanted to sign a bill that strengthened border enforcement and cracked down on employers "who exploit undocumented workers to undercut American workers." He also said the president wanted to resolve the status of 12 million people who were in the U.S. illegally, "that they should have to register, pay a penalty for breaking the law and meet other obligations of legal immigrants such as paying taxes, or leave the country."

So if this is NOT satisfactory to Latino groups than what is satisfactory to THEM that makes ANY Republican think THEY are going to win over their votes?Huh  Isn't it obvious that many Latinos want the most mea culpa they can get?
So does this mean Rep will trip over their own feet to conceed more for votes??  I hope not.
Why is it so difficult to ask why the citizens of this country have to be held hostage by illegals?

Why do we have to keep shooting ourselves in the head?  Our system is so broken.  If we don't get a real leader who cannot rise above this I really believe this country is sunk.  Who is going to tell Americans they have to get off their damn lazy asses and work our way out of the mess we are in?

***WASHINGTON — As one of the first Latinos in the nation to endorse Barack Obama , Democratic state Sen. Gilbert Cedillo of Los Angeles campaigned hard for the president, but he's disappointed now.

The reason: Obama has yet to do anything on a comprehensive overhaul of immigration laws, as he promised to do when he ran for president.

"I think he's in danger of breaking the spirit of solidarity and hope," Cedillo said. "More than a broken promise, it's the danger of breaking people's sense of hope in the Latino community."

While the president carried the Latino vote by large margins 15 months ago, many Republicans are out to capitalize on Latino dissatisfaction with Obama and Washington's Democratic leaders. They think that could help them immensely in the 2010 elections.

Republican candidates will gain ground from Latinos once Latinos realize "that what the Democrats offer is just a bunch of empty promises," said Hector Barajas , a communications consultant for the California State Senate Republican Caucus .

He noted that the president spent only about 10 seconds on immigration at the very end of his State of the Union speech last month. Barajas said the issue had been particularly hot on Spanish talk radio ever since Obama gave that speech.

"It's what didn't happen," Barajas said. "I mean, he spent more time talking about gays in the military than he did about providing some immigration reform plan."

The White House said that it remained committed to passing a comprehensive overhaul of immigration laws.

White House spokesman Adam Abrams said the president wanted to sign a bill that strengthened border enforcement and cracked down on employers "who exploit undocumented workers to undercut American workers." He also said the president wanted to resolve the status of 12 million people who were in the U.S. illegally, "that they should have to register, pay a penalty for breaking the law and meet other obligations of legal immigrants such as paying taxes, or leave the country."

"The president told members of both parties that if they can fashion a plan to deal with these problems, he is eager to work with them to get it done," Abrams said.

Jaime Regalado , the executive director of the Pat Brown Institute , a nonprofit public-policy center at California State University, Los Angeles , said that Democrats, particularly the president, faced "a scary situation."

"It's really a colossal hassle for the administration, that there is so much impatience from so many groups — including Latinos — that are hellbent on having an immigration reform package in 2010, an election year," he said. "It's difficult in any season in any year, but this is a very precarious year for Obama."

Regalado said Republicans were exploiting the issue "with good reason," because it was a no-win situation for Democrats: They lose votes from Latinos if they don't come up with a comprehensive solution to immigration, or they lose votes from more conservative members of their base if they do.

"It's fraught with political peril," he said. "There's no question about that."

Cedillo, who campaigned for Obama in California , Texas and Nevada and debated on his behalf on Spanish radio, said the president and Democratic leaders needed to show Latinos that they were committed to them "not only during the campaign, but after the election."

He predicted that Latinos will provide the determining vote in every upcoming presidential election. Obama was hugely popular among Latinos, receiving 75 percent of the more than 10 million votes they cast in the 2008 presidential election.

Latinos are gearing up to be big players this fall. Earlier this month, a report by America's Voice, a group that backs new comprehensive immigration policies, said that immigration could be the deciding factor in as many as 40 congressional races in November.

Noting the electoral strength of Latinos, Cedillo said: "I would be concerned if I was the White House , if I was a member of Congress ."

Immigration has taken a back seat to a host of tough issues for Obama, including two wars, the struggling economy and a yearlong effort to get Congress to pass a health care overhaul. The president's defenders say that it would be politically impossible to add the volatile issue of immigration to the mix right now.

Cedillo doesn't buy that argument. He said the president knew that he'd be dealing with other big issues when he made the promises to the Latino community during the campaign.

"Those were the conditions that he was campaigning under," Cedillo said. "It's not like those were surprises. ... I was so proud of him, at how firm and clear he was in those presidential debates. He really provided leadership."

Barajas said Latinos recognized that it had been a tough year for Obama and an immigration plan might not be fully implemented immediately, but he said there wasn't even a plan for proceeding, let alone introducing legislation.

"I think the Democratic Party needs to wake up and realize that you can only fool the Latino community for so long," Barajas said. "There's a great sense of frustration, there's a great sense of anger and there's a big letdown" that will drive more Latinos to the Republican Party .

Regalado said he didn't believe that Democrats would switch to the Republican Party in big numbers. "What it does threaten is that Latinos stay home" on Election Day , he said.****

2877  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Communicating with the Muslim World on: February 15, 2010, 11:39:28 AM
The Arabs and Muslims are victims of an imperialist-Zionist conspiracy aided by reactionary regimes in the Arab world. It has as its goal keeping the Arabs and Muslims backward in order to exploit their oil riches and prevent them from becoming as strong as they used to be in the Middle Ages — because that is dangerous for Israel and Western interests.’

The only truth to that is with regards to weaponization/militarization.
Yeah we don't want Arabs and Muslims getting their hands on nuclear weapons, long range missles etc.
No one is stopping them from modernizing otherwise.
Look at Dubai.

"rebuilding a post-1979 alternative story based on responsibility, modernization, Islamic reformation and cross-cultural dialogue, is this generation’s challenge."

No one is stopping them from this - just leave out the weapons.

 


2878  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / SS police - nah on: February 13, 2010, 01:44:37 PM
But empolyers are responsible.  Don't you agree most here who hire illegals know full well they are doing so?
And it is not soley the Mexican/US border.  I doubt Obama's mother walked across from Mexico yet she is here illegally.
What about the illegal Haitains. Dominicans, other Carib islands people, Indians, Africans, Chinese, Eastern Europeans, and more who are here illegally.

I think we probably need to do more at the border as well but that is not getting at the root of the problem.

It seems more humane and politically easier to simply cut off their funding to get them to leave rather then round people up, arrest them in INS raids, shoot them at the borders, etc.

People won't be coming here by the millions if not for Americans (mostly) knowingly giving illegals jobs.

And for full time work we ask people for ID anyway to give them 1099s, W2s etc.  So what's the big deal.
So my gardner might have to spend a bit more to hire a legal employee.  He charges me an arm and leg anyway.

Crafty, don't you think the analogy is a bit extreme?

I don't think it is Nazi Germany to verify people are here legally to give them a job.

The problem also is these people ARE draining our health system, our schools, the Medicaid for their kids, food stamps for their kids who are legal and probably, other ways of playing the system.

I would rather feel comfortable asking someone for papers than have to sit idly by like a fool and worry and wring my hands at risk of being called a bigot because it is obvious when someone in front of me is here illegally.

If we simply made it mandatory for all it would be easy to do.  And we are just talking about people who are applying for jobs.  Not at food stores, gas stations, being stopped for no reason on the street etc.

2879  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: unions on: February 13, 2010, 10:05:27 AM
Aren't the unions and in particularly public sector unions what busted the Governator in Kalifornia a few years back?

I've posted a couple of times that I don't get the rationality of hiring people for public jobs, than allowing them to collectivize and turn around and then demand taxpayers give them more.

I am not sure why this is not some sort of collusion (that was the cry when some doctors started talking about unionizing).
Then again there must obviously be many legal arguments for and against as well as I would think much case law on such matters.

IMO we are being screwed by our own government servants - with a notable exception - the military.  I would think most of us are grateful to them and support pensions, health care etc for them.  OTH how come they can't simply unionize?



2880  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues on: February 13, 2010, 09:42:11 AM
I'm not sure allowing those who meet criteria is such a good idea.
Reagan gave amnesty to a few million in the early 80s.
Now we have ten times the problem.
We do it again and we may have another ten times the problem in 30 years.

I really don't think it is that hard to stop this.
Simply we make employers have to verify citizen status before hiring.
What is so hard about having some sort of data bank of citizens and asking employers to require an ID before they hire and making it a crime to knowingly hire an illegal by not having some sort of ID verification documentation?

And we need to stop the loophole that anyone born here is automatically a citizen when neither of their parents are.

What is so hard about doing these things?

You won't have to shoot anyone coming over because they won't be coming over - unless it is to bring over drugs.

I feel sorry for the Mexicans who are trying to remain honest and fight the narco terrorists.
We are the assholes buying the stuff while we sit comfortably North of the border while people are dying South of the border.
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2882  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iran on: February 11, 2010, 03:15:13 PM
Good post.
Sounds a bit encouraging.
Last night while driving and listening to Marc Levin he was saying Bama should go all out supporting the opposition and putting ALL screws available on the Mullahs.
The one issue not addressed is that the guy who "lost" to Amedinjad (sp?) may not have had any different approach to Israel.
Is there any data how the average Iranian feels about sweeping the Jews into the Mediterranean?

2883  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Nuclear War, WMD issues on: February 11, 2010, 12:12:46 PM
For Israel the threat are probably the opposite.

Israel is screwed.

Iran's regimes intentions could not be more clear.

Could a miracle occur and there be a topple of the present regime?

Otherwise war is the only way Jews in Israel will survive IMO.

Again the world idles while Jew haters prepare for war with fanatical arming.

Where are you now Soros?  Of all people.
2884  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Repub. plan for health care falls FAR short of cost containment on: February 10, 2010, 07:54:09 PM
In my opinion. 

Well I like and usually agree with Dick Morris but I don't agree that his GOP proposals for containing the cost of health care is even remotely enough.  Of course as a doctor I like the idea of tort reform.  And contrary to Bama's contention there is no evidence it would reduce costs, anyone with half a brain knows it would.  But how much it would do so I admit I don't know.  I don't know it would be gigantic, but it certainly could be substantial/significant. 

What about the opening of insurance markets across state lines?  (One of the favorite memorized and for lack of anything else to offer lines from the car salesman Hannity.)  In addressing that idea I have included a bloggers (JIMH) rebuttel (see after Dick's piece) and tend to agree with him.  I really don't see how this would work at all.  It makes no sense.  Why is my being able to buy insurance from say a company in Idaho going to bring down my costs here in NJ without simply increasing that company's premiums. 

While Dick sounds off against rationed care there is simply no other way to reign in costs without someone rationing care.
Even now private insurers try to do it and cannot control costs.

As for doctor pay what can I say?

My colleague cardiologists are whining (and understandably so) about a 36 to 40% pay cut from Medicare.  They say I should be happy with a 1% pay raise!  Of course they could care less I've already had my pay cut for years and they tend to make anywhere from 200 to 1000 % more than me at this time and even after their pay cuts will do multiple times more than me.

Recently I reviewed a case for an administrative position.  I ten year old congenitally disabled and deformed child.  He is less than four feet tall and weighs 40 odd pounds.  He lives at home on a breathing machine and a feeding tube.  He has and requires 24 X 7 care.  One hears the ethicists and religious types emphatically pointing out this child's, this human beings Right to whatever care is available to stay alive.  One can feel the pain the parents feel when one reviews his medical bills - over 1.25 milliion over five years.  Yet there is an opposite ethical argument that can be made.  It may and would sound monstrous to some.  Yet think of the care that is not afforded to others because of the cost of this one child who is so mentally as well as physiccally deformed he must have no clue what is even going on - and that is 166,666 people could have a $70 yearly annual preventative physical exam paid for for that sum of money. 

Before we grandstand about how much we are against rationing care lets pause and think about what we are saying and doing. 

GOP’S HEALTHCARE MOMENT
By Dick Morris 02.10.2010 Published on TheHill.com February 9,2009

President Barack Obama has so lowered expectations for the Republican Party that if they come to the healthcare summit he has called at the White House with concrete and well-articulated proposals, it will blow the country away. Repeatedly, the president has fashioned the GOP as the party of “no,” goading them by saying, “If you have any ideas, bring them on.”


Well, let them do it.

Republicans need to be on their toes and aggressive in the meeting and not let it devolve into a question-and-answer session with the president hogging the mike. He asked for a meeting, not a lecture or a media conference, and Republicans need to demand equal time to present their ideas.

Start with tort reform. The Republicans need to explain how much of the unnecessary medical costs are being driven by useless tort litigation. In Mississippi, where they acted to preclude much of it, malpractice premiums have declined by 50 percent.

The GOP needs to explain to the nation that when the president says he is going to cut costs by eliminating tests that aren’t necessary, he is catching doctors in a vise. On the one side, they have the government prohibiting or discouraging them from tests, and on the other, the trial-lawyer bar waiting to pounce on them for failing to administer the proper tests if their care has a bad outcome.

The Republicans need to make the cost-cutting part of the healthcare summit about tort reform, constantly raising the subject as the counter to the president’s proposed $500 billion cut in Medicare.

Then Republicans need to discuss other cost-saving measures such as allowing health insurance to be sold across state lines and other measures to encourage competition.

Republicans should also zero in on the need for more doctors if we are to expand the number of patients covered. They must articulate the conclusion so much of the nation has come to (but official Washington has never embraced): that you cannot have more patients without more doctors unless you want to impose rationing. They should make the case that you need to phase in coverage for those who are not now covered so that you can increase the supply of doctors and nurses at the same time. Supply must keep pace with demand so that artificial scarcity does not leave the nation short of doctors.

The Republicans need to point out that in Massachusetts, where Romney inflicted a version of ObamaCare on the state, the waiting time to see a doctor in Boston is now 63 days. They need to stress that any rationing will be felt primarily by the elderly and will lead to premature deaths.

Finally, Republicans need to explain their own proposals for reforming healthcare — including Medical Savings Accounts and expansions of current tax breaks to encourage people and small businesses to purchase insurance.

Then, Republicans need to keep up a steady drumfire of criticism of the president’s proposals. They need to:

• Attack the proposed cuts in Medicare.

• Criticize the individual mandate as unconstitutional and paint a vivid picture of how much it will cost young families.

• Demand that young people be permitted to purchase catastrophic coverage to satisfy any mandate, rather than full coverage they don’t need.

• Spell out, in detail, how the tax on medical devices will raise the cost of pacemakers, automated wheelchairs, arterial stints, prosthetic limbs and all manner of necessary medical equipment.

• Attack the proposal to make a taxpayer spend 10 percent of his income — as opposed to 7.5 percent at present — on medical expenses in order to deduct them. Expose this tax as a tax on the sick.

• Criticize the idea that people could be imprisoned for failing to have health insurance or paying the fine the legislation imposes. There is a big difference between tax evasion and failing to have health insurance.

With proper preparation, the Republicans can turn this healthcare summit into a nationally televised town meeting such as those that frustrated Democratic congressmen last August.

  JimH on February 10, 2010 12:03 pm
Selling insurance across state lines will not work. The majority of insurance policies sold today are sold with a preferred provider network, aka PPO. What good does a policy I can purchase in Maine do me if I live outside the geographical service area of the network? I’ll be covered but out-of-network, with a higher deductible and out-of-pocket expense. Also, by living in an area where medical costs are higher than in Maine, what claims I do have will eventually have an effect on the the premium structure of the company. The insurer will have to raise premiums to account for the increased cost of my claims. Health insurance needs to be deregulated and we have to get back to the old indemnity style plans where there is no first dollar coverage. That will bring costs down because it will make people more cautious with their money and less likely to abuse the medical system for things such as colds and flu.

2885  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: China on: February 09, 2010, 07:13:47 PM
I really think its time to suggest we raise soc sec and all retirement ages to 70.
No one should get soc sec till then. No gov employee should be on pension till then.
We all work till then unless one is independently able to pay for their OWN retirement or they worked for a private company that can/will do that (and not forced by labor unions into it).
The dole must go.
We are flushing this country's future down the toilet.
The debt will never be paid off.

We can't tax and spend our way out of it like the ONE thinks.
We can't grow our way out of it with endless regulations and taxes.
We have to be free to work our asses off to get out of this mess.

Someone recently told me "f..k" future generations.  He has kids too!  This is a sad commentary of the thinking of some Americans.

It is so hard to be optimistic.


2886  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / nucs on: February 09, 2010, 07:01:49 PM
Seems like it is just a matter of time doesn't it?

Iran will start the race in the Middle East I guess.

Everyone wants to be the big kid on the block.

I always felt Indians felt some shame in the poverty and third world status of their country.
Lets not think nucs will not be a source of "pride".

What is the answer?

****Associated Press Writer Muneeza Naqvi, Associated Press Writer – Sun Feb 7, 7:39 am ET
NEW DELHI – India again successfully test-fired a nuclear-capable missile Sunday that can hit targets across much of Asia and the Middle East, a defense ministry press release said.

It was the fourth test of the Agni III missile, the statement added. The first attempt in 2006 failed, but the last two tests were successful.

"The Agni III missile tested for the full range, hit the target with pinpoint accuracy and met all the mission objectives," the press release added.

India's current arsenal of missiles is largely intended for confronting archrival Pakistan. The Agni III, in contrast, is India's longest-range missile, designed to reach 3,000 kilometers (1,900 miles) — putting China's major cities well into range, as well as Middle Eastern targets.

India's homegrown missile arsenal already includes the short-range Prithvi ballistic missile, the medium-range Akash, the anti-tank Nag and the supersonic Brahmos missile, developed jointly with Russia.

The missile was launched from Wheeler Island off the eastern state of Orissa on Sunday morning.

The test appeared unlikely to significantly raise tensions in the region.

Nuclear-armed neighbors India and Pakistan usually notify each other ahead of such missile launches, in keeping with an agreement between the two nations. India and Pakistan have fought three wars since they gained independence from Britain in 1947.

The two sides began talks aimed at resolving their differences over the Himalayan region of Kashmir and other disputes in 2004. India put the peace process on hold soon after terrorist attacks in Mumbai in November 2008, which India blamed on the Pakistan-based militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba.

India recently offered to restart peace talks, though Pakistan has yet to formally accept.****
2887  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Emanuel's fault. The ONE is still protected. on: February 09, 2010, 09:43:28 AM
What I find truly remarkeble is the notion that it is always someone else's fault other then the ONE.
No fingers pointed at the ONE.  Only Emanuel.

The wagons are circling tighter and tighter to protect the ONE from all party loyal starting from the ONE himself down to the loyal academics, the msm, other crats, unions, womens groups, and the rest.

That is amazing to me.


*****Congressional Democrats point finger of blame at Rahm Emanuel
By Alexander Bolton - 02/09/10 06:00 AM ET
Democrats in Congress are holding White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel accountable for his part in the collapse of healthcare reform.

The emerging consensus among critics in both chambers is that Emanuel’s lack of Senate experience slowed President Barack Obama’s top domestic priority.

The share of the blame comes as cracks are beginning to show in Emanuel’s once-impregnable political armor. Last week he had to apologize after a report surfaced that he called liberal groups “retarded” in a private meeting.

While Emanuel has quelled that controversy by meeting with advocates for people with disabilities, on Capitol Hill he’s under fire for poor execution of the president’s healthcare agenda in the Senate.

"I think Rahm ran the play his boss called; once Obama called the play, Rahm did everything he could to pass it, scorched-earth and all that,” said a senior lawmaker, who added that Emanuel didn’t seek a broader base of Senate Republicans. “I think he did miscalculate the Senate. He did what he thought he had to do to win."

Senate Democrats grilled White House advisers last week during a special Senate Democratic retreat, expressing frustration over the lack of a clear plan.

While Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) ripped chief political strategist David Axelrod, Senate Democrats say Emanuel, who was more closely involved in managing negotiations in Congress, also deserves scrutiny.

No Democrat is calling for Emanuel’s resignation, even privately, and they acknowledge his hard work and straightforward approach in a very tough job.

They also say there’s plenty of blame on healthcare to go around.

But centrists and liberal Democrats both take issue — albeit in different ways — with how he approached the Senate.

“I like Rahm; he's always been a straight shooter with me," said a Democratic centrist senator who was closely involved in the healthcare debate.

The lawmaker said Emanuel misjudged the Senate by focusing on only a few Republicans, citing Maine Sens. Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins as too narrow a pool.

“In the Senate, you have to anchor in the middle and build out," said the lawmaker.

“They just wanted to win," the source said of Emanuel and other White House strategists. "Their plan was to keep all the Democrats together and work like hell to get Snowe and Collins. The Senate doesn't work that way. You need a radius of 10 to 12 from the other side if you're going to have a shot."

But liberals take a different view. They argue Emanuel made a mistake by allowing Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) to spend months negotiating with Republicans on his committee, such as Sen. Chuck Grassley (Iowa).

“I’m most critical of the fact that the Senate [Democratic] leadership and, I assume, the White House tried to get a deal with people like Grassley, which was impossible and wasted a huge amount of time,” said Roger Hickey, co-director of the Campaign for America’s Future, a liberal advocacy group.

One senior Democratic senator said Emanuel was initially reluctant to push healthcare reform so early in Obama’s first term, counseling instead for the president to focus on jobs and the economy

But the president decided healthcare had to pass when he had a strong political mandate and the party controlled large majorities in both chambers.

Obama was convinced overhauling the nation’s healthcare system would boost the struggling economy by curbing costs and reducing the long-term federal deficit, say Democratic sources.

An administration official, however, disputed the notion that Emanuel disagreed with the president’s timeline on healthcare.

Emanuel declined to be interviewed for this article.

Once Obama decided to make healthcare the top priority, Emanuel approached it with his signature hard-charging style. That did not sit well in the Senate, according to Democratic senators and House members.

A liberal House Democrat who served with Emanuel during his entire career in Congress said: "I don't think the skills that are attributed to him — muscling things through — are well-suited to the Senate.

"The House is like an Australian-rules rugby match,” the lawmaker added. “The Senate is like a march at a men’s club in imperial Britain. They're a bunch of barons over there."


Emanuel constantly pressed Senate negotiators to stay on a timeline for passing healthcare reform. Centrist Democrats and Republicans alike complained about “arbitrary” deadlines.

Snowe complained about a rushed process when she announced she would vote against the Senate healthcare bill, even after she supported the Democratic healthcare bill in the Finance Committee.

One liberal Democratic senator said Emanuel has a much better relationship with House Democrats.

The senator said that Emanuel allowed White House Deputy Chief of Staff Jim Messina, who had worked 15 years for Baucus, to take more of a lead in the upper chamber. The lawmaker said that was a mistake that allowed Baucus more time than necessary to negotiate with Republicans.

Baucus scoffed at the notion that Messina could pressure him.

“He’s not going to put pressure on me,” Baucus told The Washington Post last year during an interview for a profile of Messina.

A liberal healthcare advocate said this management strategy wasted months of time.

It’s true that Messina was the person the White House relied on to quarterback the Senate strategy. He agreed with the Baucus strategy of going ahead to make this deal [with Republicans] and it did go on too long,” said the advocate.

Some Democrats in Congress also question whether Emanuel scheduled enough time for the president to travel the country to stump for healthcare reform.

“For a guy who talked a lot about not liking the culture of Washington, he spent a lot of time in Washington,” said a Democratic leadership aide.

The aide noted that former President George W. Bush traveled to states and congressional districts he carried on Election Day to pressure Democratic lawmakers to support his agenda. The aide said Obama did not put similar pressure on centrist Republicans.


Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP) Committee Chairman Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) said Obama’s advisers lost touch with the county’s populist sentiment as he became consumed by the challenges of his agenda.


"As a group, overall, I would give them a good grade, but there's something missing there and that's an overall strategy of ‘What are the things we're going to get done and how are we going to work with Congress?’ ” Harkin said of Obama’s circle of advisers.

Harkin said they lacked “a feeling for what’s going on around the country, the populist sentiment.”

Obama’s advisers have since realized this mistake. The president has sounded more populist tones in recent weeks, such as proposing a hefty tax on the bonuses of Wall Street bankers.


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Comments (117)PAGE |1|2| ... |6|7|>That time was wasted negotiating with Senate republicans and conservative democrats should underscore how weak this administration is and how dysfunctional the senate is. The senate is more concerned with it's clubby atmosphere and good ol' boy network than it is in doing the people's business. Just once democrats need to find a pair and battle it out. Even if they lose it would be a good thing to show that they are at least fighting for their constituents. As it is, they roll over for republicans at the first sign of opposition. Dems will lose big in November ad not have a clue as to why.
BY AJ on 02/09/2010 at 06:19
It is arrogant to believe that the bill failed because of Emanuel's failures to 'work' the system. Both bills were/are bad and the sooner the libs admit that the sooner work can proceed on a pragmatic bill that most will be able to swallow. All the talk about Obama's inability to cram legislation through focuses on procedure and deal making, not on sincere statesmanlike objectives. If he truly believed his healthcare bill would bring costs down then he is delusional. I think he is intentionally lying. It is all about power. Witness the growth of government jobs at the rate of 10,000 per month since he came into office and the increase in their salaries. Public Unions are drooling at the thought of the money pooled by thousands of paying union members (Hence Andy Stern's regular visits to the WH.) Obama relied on public unions to get the presidency. He will do anything to keep them including this sham bill that will raise taxes and keep his union buddies happy with well padded healthcare and retirement benefits from the time they retire in their fifties until they die in their eighties. If he succeeds in pushing this garbage through you can bet the healthcare system will be top heavy with unionized medical workers. Just wait until you need oxygen at home and your in home health provider decides to go on strike. Nurses? Doctors? Med Techs? Think it can't happen? Think again.
BY cooper52 on 02/09/2010 at 06:41
AJ you are correct. The Dems will loose big in November, but not for your reasoning. They will loose because this Bill is bad and the strong arm Obama admin. is trying to ram it down our throats with special back room deals and without things like TORT reform. They need to start over with a clean sheet of paper in a bipartisan manner. By the way, We needs JOBS a lot more than we need free healthcare for Illegals.
BY Larry on 02/09/2010 at 06:58
"One senior Democratic senator said Emanuel was initially reluctant to push healthcare reform so early in Obama’s first term, counseling instead for the president to focus on jobs and the economy" I think if this had been the strategy, we'd see a far different landscape right now. Of, course, the line I've taken from the text here is contradicted in another part of the story, "One senior Democratic senator said Emanuel was initially reluctant to push health care reform so early in Obama’s first term, counseling instead for the president to focus on jobs and the economy." So, we really don't get any concrete answers in this article, since Rahm declined the interview. We're left to wonder which side of this story is correct? Did he agree that the time was now (don't let a crisis go to waste) or did he think the economy should be addressed (don't let a crisis spiral into an uncontrollable situation).
BY Chip on 02/09/2010 at 07:04
Members of Congress are experts at deflecting blame away from where it belongs— on themselves. If it weren't so tragic, I thought their blaming Wall Street for the collapse was hilarious, given that it was Congress that fostered the collapse by its polices. The failure of HC follows the same pattern. Congress denies any responsibility. What a joke. Hopefully, it will be held accountable in November.
BY Steve851 on 02/09/2010 at 07:36
I don't believe that any 1 individual is 'to blame' for health insurance/care reform not being passed.I do believe that far too many elected officials forget WHO they are in Washington to serve - the people of the United States and not just their own State's concerns.Also because it costs so much for elected officials to 'keep' their jobs, which is why campaign finance reform is such an important issue and being hyper-partisan is a cheap way of insuring re-election.However, none of the above gets the 'work of the country' done.Like AJ, what this story most clearly demonstrates is how the Senate as a legislative branch is no longer serving this country.The archaic rules, such as 'holds' to extort pork for your state (witness Sens. Bond Shelby) and the filibuster/cloture super majority are assuring that the vitally needed solutions for our country are NOT being legislated or enacted.
BY Dari on 02/09/2010 at 07:43
Businesses cannot make future plans because government interference is out of control. Washington only looks out for its friends, and takes from the little guys.My husband and I each owned a small business. I closed mine as of Dec. 31. We will close the other after this year. The new American dream is to retire early and live simply. I'm looking forward to less stress.You can't blame this on Bush.
BY CONUNDRUM on 02/09/2010 at 07:45
I, too, have chosen to opt out of this mess and live more simply. And I hope the government sorely misses my annual "contribution" in taxes of more than $100K. I hope my state misses my annual "contribution" in real estate taxes on two properties of more than $25K. All of my life, I've worked hard, struggled to raise my kids and put them through college, paid taxes, etc. I never once took a handout from anyone. There is no more reward for those who are responsible and work hard, as we're taxed to death at every turn, but watch our government take more and more of what we earn and give it to others, or it just goes down some black hole. The "rewards" all go elsewhere and, pardon me, not to those who necessarily desere it…so, why bother?
BY MamaD on 02/09/2010 at 08:08
What the Democrats fail repeatedly to realize is that, had they crafted a good bill, the American people would have been behind them. Then Rahm wouldn't have had to try "scorched earth" tactics. Also, the people wouldn't be getting ready to vote them out of office. It's not any strategist's fault, it is the fault of the party as a whole for producing a confusing, overreaching, overly instrusive and, lastly, hugely expensive boondoggle of a bill. The American people want something simple, cost effective and understandable. 2044 pages? Give me a break.
BY Tom on 02/09/2010 at 08:09
ObamaCare failed because it was bad legislation and the American people didn't want it. They could see the disaster for what it was and rejected it. Its failure can't be blamed on Rahm as far as his behavior, except that he promoted this disastrous bill.
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2888  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iran on: February 08, 2010, 04:45:30 PM
John Bolton a long time hawk on Iran finally just came out and said the only thing to stop Iran from obtaining the bomb is a US or Israeli strike.

I have the impression the US powers to be have already quietly accepted that Iran will be a nuclear power.












2889  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / The cans can be this stupid? on: February 08, 2010, 09:52:05 AM
The cans must *refuse* to participate.
They must negotiate on their terms - not those of the partisan ideologue misleader in chief.

There is not way they will look good, there is no way Bama will allow them to look good, it is at it always is about Bama.

They should have their own meeting have a few of them stand on podiums and have bama sit on a small chair down in the pit and manipulate and paraphrase, and distort everything he says to fit their own narrative.

They must NOT be stupid again and do this.  Let the crats claim they are calling them on being obstructionist.  They cna easily argue this away.  They will not win otherwise in such a  staged crafted planned trick  meeting:
 
***President Barack Obama is planning to host a televised meeting with Republican and Democratic congressional leaders on health care reform.

The Feb. 25 meeting is an attempt to reach across the aisle but not a signal that the president plans to start over, as Republicans have demanded, a White House official said.

“I want to come back [after the Presidents Day congressional recess] and have a large meeting — Republicans and Democrats — to go through, systematically, all the best ideas that are out there and move it forward,” Obama said in an interview with Katie Couric during CBS’s Super Bowl pre-game show Sunday.

Obama said he wants to “look at the Republican ideas that are out there.”

“If we can go, step by step, through a series of these issues and arrive at some agreements, then, procedurally, there’s no reason why we can’t do it a lot faster the process took last year,” he said.

In a statement, the official said, “What the president will not do is let this moment slip away. He hopes to have Republican support in doing so — but he is going to move forward on health reform.”

Obama first suggested reopening talks with Republicans during his State of the Union address last month, and reiterated the call at a Democratic fundraiser Thursday, but the White House had kept details of his plan under wraps until Sunday.

The idea has been met previously with skepticism by the congressional leaders of both parties. Republicans say they see little room for compromise because the bill should be scrapped, while Democrats argue they have already tried a bipartisan approach, but failed.

But since the Democratic loss in the Massachusetts Senate race, Obama has been forced to rework his legislative strategy – both by striking a more bipartisan tone, and returning to his campaign pledge of providing more transparency. He’s been dogged by questions about why he failed to live up to his campaign promise of televising the health care negotiations on C-SPAN.

The half-day meeting will take place at Blair House, and be broadcast live, presumably by C-SPAN, making it the first televised White House meeting involving the president since a forum last March.

There were 11 other roundtable discussions, usually led by White House health care reform director Nancy-Ann DeParle, that were webstreamed and, in some cases, carried live by C-Span.

“While he’s been very clear that he supports the House and Senate bills, if Republicans or anyone else has a plan for protecting Americans from insurance company abuses, lowering costs, reducing prescription drug prices for seniors, making coverage more secure, and offering affordable options to those without coverage, he’s anxious to see it and debate the merits of it,” the White House official said.

Legislators from both parties applauded the meeting, while holding to their positions on the health care legislation.

2890  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants on: February 08, 2010, 09:43:31 AM
"The palpable whiff given off by the White House inner circle is that they're the last people on the planet still besotted by Barack Obama"

Maybe.  But he still gets loads of cover from the MSM.

As pointed out on I think by Hannity about this corpseman stuff, "can anyone imagine if W had made the same mispronounciation?

The endless heckles, the gaffaws, the late night jokes, the parodies parading out of Hollywood.

I didn't notice anyone other than Fox pick up on this.  In fact it it weren't for Fox I doubt anyone other than the few at the speech who would even know our genius professor, the new messiah could not pronounce the word.
2891  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: February 04, 2010, 05:05:54 PM
I got a request recently for a prescription for a hospital bed.  Of course it would be billed to Medicare.
Pt. walks with a cane and does have medical problems but a hosp. bed?

Someone probably told her to request it as she is entitled to it.

There is simply no end.

OTOH I've read some pieces that come to the conclusion that technological advances on the horizon appear to be slowing and there might be some sloping down to the increases from more technology.

2892  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Sounds like this guy Borchetta is the BS artist con behind Swift on: February 04, 2010, 11:19:10 AM
Like I said, she is not a great singer.  Her voice on her albums can be and is touched up.  Live she is no better than a decent karaoke singer. 

As for the music label's CEO:
“The facts say she is the undisputed best communicator that we’ve got," Borchetta said.

I wonder how much he paid for the lyrics.  The middleman are out on the "streets" stealing the "material" and then they run back to their contacts in Nashville among other stops and I assume they pawn them off to the front people who "fit the song". Obviously fiftenn fits Swift.  It wouldn't be one to go to fat Toby Keith - another con artist- as I allege.

***The good news: At 20, Taylor Swift has become the youngest-ever recording artist to win Grammy’s biggest prize, Album of the Year. She is now the only Nashville performer to win that prize with a solo album.

“Nashville is my favorite place in the world and to see it recognized in such a beautiful way makes me so happy,” Swift said backstage late Sunday night after being told that her big win came on the same night that Kings of Leon notched Nashville rock’s first best record win.


In all, Swift won four trophies at Sunday’s 52nd Annual Grammy Awards. After Fearless also won for Best Country Album, the singer-songwriter said, “I’m standing here accepting an impossible dream right now and I thank you so much for that.”

Now the bad news: The responses to that duet with Fleetwood Mac’s Steve Nicks have been harsh.

The genre-blending duet — on Nicks’ “Rhiannon” with Swift’s “You Belong With Me” — drew sharp reviews from critics, both professional and in the social networking and blogging world.

Ann Powers of the Los Angeles Times wrote that “Swift gave a strikingly bad vocal performance at Staples Center on Sunday, sounding tinny and rhythmically flat-footed as she shared the microphone with the distinctive Stevie Nicks.”

Chris Richards of The Washington Post wrote a piece that started with “A night in the charmed life of Taylor Swift: Give an incredibly wretched vocal performance, go on to win the biggest Grammy of 2010, anyway.”

The Tennessean’s Dave Paulson chimed in on a live blog: “Maybe a smidge of Jamie Foxx’s autotune wouldn’t be such a bad idea for this duet.”

Respected music industry blogger Bob Lefsetz first wrote that Fearless deserved to win album of the year, but then proffered that Swift might have single-handledly imperiled her career with this one Grammy performance: “How awful was she? Dreadful.”

Scott Borchetta, president and CEO of Swift's record label Big Machine Records, had this response late Monday night.

“The facts say she is the undisputed best communicator that we’ve got," Borchetta said. "So when she says something or feels something it affects more people than anybody else. Maybe she’s not the best technical singer, but she is the best emotional singer. Everybody gets up there and is technically perfect people don’t seem to want more of it. There’s not an artist in any other format that people want more of than they want of Taylor. I think (the critics) are missing the whole voice of a generation that is happening right in front of them. Maybe they are jealous or can’t understand that. But obviously the people that she talks to are engaged with her. No one is perfect on any given day. Maybe in that moment we didn’t have the best night, but in the same breath, maybe we did.”

A midday release announcing Swift’s awards noted that immediately after the Sunday show, Swift and her band “left for LAX, headed to Australia and Japan, where she will perform several sold-out shows before returning to the States to launch her FEARLESS 2010 tour March 4th in Tampa.”

— PETER COOPER, CINDY WATTS AND LINDA ZETTLER
2893  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness on: February 04, 2010, 09:42:22 AM
Possibly Newt could call him on his lies like:

"I am not an idealogue".
2894  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / The cans have a ong way to go to take on the ONE on: February 03, 2010, 11:32:24 AM
Well the cans have time to get it on with the Chosen serial liar.
But if their idiotic perfornance with the One last week is any indication they still are too stupid to call him on his deception.
They need to study every word, every response and instead of LETTING him turn everything around on them just turn it right back on him.
Don't let him get away with "you are the party of no" and "I am reaching out to you" and "you need to stop the paritisanship" when in fact he comes with a total radical agenda and then states anyone who disagrees with him is keeping the country from moving forward. 

The cans still do not have a trained studied mouthpiece that can go up against him except on the radio waves.
They must learn to highlight his lies and deception.  Not let him get away with BS.
So far they can't do it.  Till the RNC studies BOs MO and finds way to verbally dance around, through and over this guy we look like children being lectured by the prof.
2895  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Tax Policy on: February 02, 2010, 01:23:10 PM
What is interesting Drudge headline notes this story was literally *pulled* from Reuters about four hours after it was aired.

How is this from the 'objective' MSM?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100202/bs_nm/us_budget_backdoortaxes
2896  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Swift on: February 02, 2010, 11:40:51 AM
What can I say?  She makes it *a point* to thank her producer for "letting her" sing the songs "she wrote".
Who else can recall anyone saying that.  Gee thanks for letting me write and my own hits!  Well that's modest.  The narcissism is totally lost to the adoring and cashing in media.

All I can do is sit and frown.  This little s..t whose songs were exactly like those stolen from Katherine.  At least two from her first album.  Like my Indian colleague said to me, "you mean they all sing and claim songs here [in the US] they didn't write?  In India everyone knows the singers don't write their songs.  It doesn't matter what they claim.  Only here no one knows!".

My wife sits stuck in our little house.  Her life in ruins.  People who moved in all over the street just to watch and try to rob us.  Not a thing I can do about it.  The moment Katherine forgot to double lock the door someone then snuck right into the house to steal some copyrights and financial papers (they are screwing her trades obvouisly in cahoots with an insider at Fidelity).
I got home right after they were in the house.  I pulled up and saw a little shit I've seen before sitting in the lot right next to our house grinning.  Right away it was a rega flag.  Then I go to the back door only to find it casually locked which I can open and enter.  Normally I wait for her to let me in because only with a bolt from the inside can we keep professional criminals out.  There is no lock they can't pick, or somehow get a copy of the key.  Just ask any lock smith.  So immediately I knew we be had - again.

And this little lying sack of s..t.......

What's worse is she is a mediocre singer.  A lousy dancer, and can't play guitar. And her songs I allege are stolen and not written by her as she plays innocently to claim.

If there is a God then maybe there will be justice some day.


""Over the last three and a half years, Ms. Swift has established herself as pop’s leading naïf. Not in her songwriting, which has been precocious, but in her persona. By now, she’s even patented a look she whips out at award shows, concerts and more, when her innocence is threatened by acclaim: eyes wide, mouth agape, hand held over it as if to keep in the breath she’d just gasped as if it were her last.

Most stars — and make no mistake, Ms. Swift is the most important new pop star of the past few years — have their images undone by failure. In Ms. Swift’s case, the opposite is true: success has necessitated a re-evaluation.

Her Sunday night at the Grammys will be remembered as the turning point. She won four awards, including album of the year for “Fearless” (Big Machine), her outstanding second record — the youngest artist ever to do so, and the first solo female country singer to earn that as well. It was the ultimate stamp of insider approval for someone who insists that she’s thrilled just to be invited to the party.

But the night also revealed her weaknesses. Her new single, “Today Was a Fairytale,” from the “Valentine’s Day” soundtrack, opened her performance, and it was limp, a parody of her best songs about teen love fantasy. That transitioned into a pitch-challenged duet of “Rhiannon” with Stevie Nicks, who then joined in — facing her own vocal challenges — on a banjolin-driven version of Ms. Swift’s “You Belong With Me.”

Ms. Swift is still young — she’s got teenage taste, some of it bad (Owl City, Boys Like Girls), some of it better (John Mayer) — and it’s refreshing to see someone so gifted make the occasional flub. Compare her with, say, Beyoncé, the night’s only bigger winner, who appears allergic to risk, or showing weakness.

But with every step Ms. Swift takes toward ubiquity, her facade must come undone a bit. The recent avalanche of disturbances dates back to the disruption of her acceptance speech by Kanye West at the MTV Video Music Awards in September. That was the first rupture: Ms. Swift held her composure, but the world assumed that she felt anger and frustration anyway and granted it to her, making her an unlikely David to Mr. West’s Goliath.

Suddenly Ms. Swift had texture. She was complex. In short, she became an adult. Not surprisingly, in the subsequent weeks, she was more of a tabloid presence than ever before. Her earlier entanglement with Joe Jonas had been handled gingerly and from a distance, but now Ms. Swift was fair game. She was part of a celebrity mega-feud and soon, reportedly, a celebrity mega-relationship, with the “Twilight” star Taylor Lautner. In November she won Entertainer of the Year, and three other prizes, at the Country Music Association Awards, confirming her breakthrough.

In this window came a more important milestone that passed with relatively little notice: Ms. Swift turned 20 in December. She’s no longer a teenager; soon, when she performs her anthems of young-love heartbreak, it’s going to appear as if she were carpetbagging.

And more important, she’ll almost certainly be 21 (or older) when she releases a new album that can’t now, by definition, have the same emotional guideposts as the previous ones. Success has altered how she’s perceived, but most of all, success breeds perspective, especially in someone as savvy and bright as Ms. Swift.

Ideally, what will emerge will be a new Ms. Swift, cut from whole cloth, with some gumption, some sass, some wisdom that the world has crueler foes than teenage boys. As a singer, the songs she’ll produce should be just as honest as the ones before them. And as a person, she should now be unafraid to share all the things she undoubtedly already knows but has been holding back. Her multitudes await.""
2897  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Miep Gies/Ann Frank on: January 30, 2010, 12:22:24 PM
   Miep Gies, who helped hide Anne Frank, dies at 100
AMSTERDAM, Netherlands -- Miep Gies, the office secretary who defied the Nazi occupiers to hide Anne Frank and her family for two years and saved the teenager's diary, has died, the Anne Frank Museum said Tuesday. She was 100.

Gies' Web site reported that she died Monday after a brief illness. The report was confirmed by museum spokeswoman Maatje Mostar, but she gave no details. The British Broadcasting Corp. said she died in a nursing home after suffering a fall last month.

Gies was the last of the few non-Jews who supplied food, books and good cheer to the secret annex behind the canal warehouse where Anne, her parents, sister and four other Jews hid for 25 months during World War II.

After the apartment was raided by the German police, Gies gathered up Anne's scattered notebooks and papers and locked them in a drawer for her return after the war. The diary, which Anne Frank was given on her 13th birthday, chronicles her life in hiding from June 12, 1942 until August 1, 1944.

Gies refused to read the papers, saying even a teenager's privacy was sacred. Later, she said if she had read them she would have had to burn them because they incriminated the "helpers."

Anne Frank died of typhus at age 15 in the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp in March 1945, just two weeks before the camp was liberated. Gies gave the diary to Anne's father Otto, the only survivor, who published it in 1947.

After the diary was published, Gies tirelessly promoted causes of tolerance. She brushed aside the accolades for helping hide the Frank family as more than she deserved -- as if, she said, she had tried to save all the Jews of occupied Holland.

"This is very unfair. So many others have done the same or even far more dangerous work," she wrote in an e-mail to The Associated Press days before her 100th birthday last February.

"The Diary of Anne Frank" was the first popular book about the Holocaust, and has been read by millions of children and adults around the world in some 65 languages.

For her courage, Gies was bestowed with the "Righteous Gentile" title by the Israeli Holocaust museum Yad Vashem. She has also been honored by the German Government, Dutch monarchy and educational institutions.

Nevertheless, Gies resisted being made a character study of heroism for the young.

"I don't want to be considered a hero," she said in a 1997 online chat with schoolchildren.

"Imagine young people would grow up with the feeling that you have to be a hero to do your human duty. I am afraid nobody would ever help other people, because who is a hero? I was not. I was just an ordinary housewife and secretary."

Born Hermine Santrouschitz on Feb. 15, 1909 in Vienna, Gies moved to Amsterdam in 1922 to escape food shortages in Austria. She lived with a host family who gave her the nickname Miep.

In 1933, Gies took a job as an office assistant in the spice business of Otto Frank. After refusing to join a Nazi organization in 1941, she avoided deportation to Austria by marrying her Dutch boyfriend, Jan Gies.

As the Nazis ramped up their arrests and deportations of Dutch Jews, Otto Frank asked Gies in July 1942 to help hide his family in the annex above the company's canal-side warehouse on Prinsengracht 263 and to bring them food and supplies.

"I answered, 'Yes, of course.' It seemed perfectly natural to me. I could help these people. They were powerless, they didn't know where to turn," she said years later.

Jan and Miep Gies worked with four other employees in the firm to sustain the Franks and four other Jews sharing the annex. Jan secured extra food ration cards from the underground resistance. Miep cycled around the city, alternating grocers to ward off suspicions from this highly dangerous activity.

In her e-mail to the AP last February, Gies remembered her husband, who died in 1993, as one of Holland's unsung war heroes. "He was a resistance man who said nothing but did a lot. During the war he refused to say anything about his work, only that he might not come back one night. People like him existed in thousands but were never heard," she wrote.

Touched by Anne's precocious intelligence and loneliness, Miep also brought Anne books and newspapers while remembering everybody's birthdays and special days with gifts.

"It seems as if we are never far from Miep's thoughts," Anne wrote.

In her own book, "Anne Frank Remembered," Gies recalled being in the office when the German police, acting on a tip that historians have failed to trace, raided the hide-out in August 1944.

A policeman opened the door to the main office and pointed a revolver at the three employees, telling them to sit quietly. "Bep, we've had it," Gies whispered to Bep Voskuijl.

After the arrests, she went to the police station to offer a bribe for the Franks' release, but it was too late. On Aug. 8, they were sent to Westerbork, a concentration camp in eastern Holland from where they were later packed into cattle cars and deported to Auschwitz. A few months later, Anne and her sister Margot were transported to Bergen-Belsen.

Two of the helpers, Victor Kugler and Johannes Kleiman, were sent to labor camps, but survived the war.

Around 140,000 Jews lived in the Netherlands before the 1940-45 Nazi occupation. Of those, 107,000 were deported to Germany and only 5,200 survived. Some 24,000 Jews went into hiding, of which 8,000 were hunted down or turned in.

After the war, Otto Frank returned to Amsterdam and lived with the Gies family until he remarried in 1952. Miep worked for him as he compiled the diary, then devoted herself to talking about the diary and answering piles of letters with questions from around the world.

After Otto Frank's death in 1980, Gies continued to campaign against Holocaust-deniers and to refute allegations that the diary was a forgery.

She suffered a stroke in 1997 which slightly affected her speech, but she remained generally in good health as she approached her 100th birthday.

Her son Paul Gies said last year she was still receiving "a sizable amount of mail" which she handled with the help of a family friend. She spent her days at the apartment where she lived since 2000 reading two daily newspapers and following television news and talk shows.

Her husband died in 1993. She is survived by her son and three grandchildren.

(Copyright 2010 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
2898  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Fascism, liberal fascism, progressivism: on: January 29, 2010, 11:10:34 AM
Please see my post under stock market.  I think this is why GS has had such a long history of outperformance.
They have the inside info all the time.  And they can act on it before others. 
2899  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Well speaking of GS.. on: January 29, 2010, 11:07:37 AM
This raises a point I have been wondering after we have had first row seats watching Goldman and the Fed, and the Treasury.
Why is it that Goldman seems to do so well?

Could it be that they have the inside skinny on all the government wheeling and dealing that the rest of us are not privy to?

Are they really all that brilliant or is it they keep getting their guys appointed to the top gov financial positions and always get the inside scoop before anyone else?

This certainly has the appearance of being the real answer.

This is a great topic for a real investigative reporter.

I can hear it from 100 miles away - "oh it may be a bit unethical but nothing illegal was ever done".  Or something to the effect "while it has the appearance of conflicts of interest and GS may have had some gains from this, in reality it was good for the country and 'main street' overall".

And all the other excuses and rationalizations we hear thrown out there....

 
2900  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness on: January 29, 2010, 10:10:25 AM
Agreed with the previous article.  And again I add, takes a very cheap shot at Supreme Court Justices in front of the world, and while they have no opportunity to defend themselves.
CNN can debate whether he is JC or not but one thing is for sure - he isn't Abe Lincoln.
Never did Lincoln stoop so low.
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