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2851  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Money, the Fed, Banking, Monetary Policy, Dollar & other currencies, Gold/Silver on: January 12, 2016, 11:30:08 AM
Don't worry.  The bankers will find a way to control the bitcoin.   Someone has to monitor and control that no?
2852  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Sen.Ted Cruz on: January 12, 2016, 11:29:16 AM
Jus sanguinis

I just looked this up.  This is the right to citizenship by since one or both parents are citizens.

But the professor quoted in the article states this was not (at least in his opinion) the 'intent' of the founders.

Except through the father's side (which sort of makes sense in the 18th century when women did not have the right to vote) but not the father's side.
If his interpretation is correct than Cruz would not be a natural born citizen with regard to the original intent of the writers of the Constitution.

I don't know if the amendments specifically address this.

I haven't heard Levin's take on this interpretation.   As much as I like him he does sound a bit hypocritical on this.   Our side should not be blindly hypocritical.

If valid questions can be brought up about McCains or Obamas or anchor babies citizen status than the same goes for "our" guys.
2853  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Sen.Ted Cruz on: January 11, 2016, 06:36:56 PM
Apart from Mark Levin's yelling and hollering this makes sense to me:

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/01/11/2746384/
2854  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Hot on the runway on: January 10, 2016, 11:13:13 PM
http://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/features/g422/dressing-hilary-clinton-loobook-0508/?slide=1
2855  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: January 10, 2016, 11:08:36 PM
Here we go again.  Not one shred of evidence.

Anyone notice the burlap bag she is wearing?  There is something very socialist about her latest attire.   I vaguely recall seeing futuristic movies with the President wearing these little Chairman Mao like garbs.  That is what she is wearing now.   She changed her look fro one of an early Americana like pantsuit with the scarf around the neck to look like one of the old presidential portraits to a socialist's garb
.
Must be to steal back some of Bernie's communist hoards.   She is just an average comrade like you and me of course.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-private-email_5692cdbce4b0a2b6fb708334?
2856  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: January 10, 2016, 10:57:40 PM
These guys really thought offering people chump change was going to have them lose 15% of their weight for a year?   Lets see.  If you deny yourself what you crave to eat will pay you $550 bucks.  That will work.  Well Dr. Patel got his name in the paper I guess.   I don't know why these pencil pushing data crunching faux pax researchers are taken seriously.  Thanks Bamster care.

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/01/08/462380096/why-employers-incentives-for-weight-loss-fall-flat-with-workers
2857  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces on: January 10, 2016, 10:09:05 PM
Some of the "top" choices for a woman for the $10 dollar bill:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/women-10-dollar-bill-candidates

Every one is basically not so much a champion for America as a champion for liberal causes.

Maybe we could have bills for liberals and bills for the rest of us.

Well what else would one expect from the most leftist President and his socialist appointees?




2858  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Donald Trump on: January 10, 2016, 04:46:38 PM
I am not quite as negative on Trump as you.

Cruz is my first choice.

Rubio is up there with Trump to me.

Somethings I like about Kasich but he is just too much of an appeaser.

So is Christie.  


Carson never struck me as really ever viable.

Fiorina........?

Who else?
2859  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Another Obama parting gift; judicial appointments on: January 10, 2016, 04:38:43 PM
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/01/senate-gop-must-not-confirm-any-more-obama-judges
2860  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Sen.Ted Cruz on: January 10, 2016, 04:16:39 PM
This is to my knowledge the first time anyone except for Trump did not back down to the leftist pulling at the heart strings shame game.

His answer could include also that hundreds of thousands go through a legal process which exists to have people apply and gain citizenship in our country.
2861  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Donald Trump on: January 10, 2016, 04:08:44 PM
Doug,

PS ,  at least the Vikings did better than the Giants this year. 
2862  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: North and South Korea on: January 10, 2016, 04:06:16 PM
Well if history serves us correctly here NK is playing the same game they always play.

They are all bluff awaiting another appeasing deal the West is great at caving into.

2863  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Donald Trump on: January 10, 2016, 04:03:43 PM
"It is a political advantage for him to not layout solutions.  For us it means we're screwed."

Not necessarily
Don't you think that if he lays out all the details of policy now that Hillary with her 50 divisions of spinners and an adoring media will not "out wonk" him to death?

I understand the risk if he becomes the Repub nominee, and than does NOT deliver.   But wouldn't it be great to see him up in a general election debate knocking her off her skanky scripted perch with one surprise after another.   He will kick her off ass all over the stage.
He will get to the policy mountain top before her and lay claim before she can bullshit her way there.

My point is the element of surprise will work great against Hillary. Otherwise she will stake out every poll group tested policy spot that makes her as it did with her husband very difficult to beat.

You just said don't underestimate him.

And we both know not to underestimate Hillary's mafia organization.


 
2864  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Donald Trump on: January 10, 2016, 02:49:48 PM
DDF, I don't get what your saying.

That Trump is liberal?
2865  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Penn self made jerk off on: January 10, 2016, 02:48:22 PM
Well I would doubt he knowingly led the saw to this guy but that said I wish him thousands of sleepless nights worrying if his time has come:

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/01/10/sean-penn-el-chapo-interview/
2866  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / FOIA Loophole? on: January 10, 2016, 02:22:26 PM
Does this slimy Clinton legal argument hold any merit whatsoever?   Any legal experts who have a moment to explain to a first grade legal expert - moi shocked

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/07/clintons-private-email-account-exploits-foia-loophole-report-says.html
2867  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Donald Trump on: January 10, 2016, 12:52:40 PM
Doug writes,

"I watched DT on the shows this morning and need to concede (again) that anyone who (still) underestimates his political skills does so to their own peril.  I agreed with him about 90% of the time in the Fox News Sunday and Meet the Press interviews.  Like Perot, his strength is to point out what is wrong, not to lay out solutions. "

Wow Doug!   I didn't see the shows but if YOU were impressed then I am sure I would be.

The last part of your post "not to lay out solutions" is as (I think it was PP who also pointed this out) a big advantage at this stage.   We all know the Clinton machine studies their opponents ears, throat, anus, vagina, urethra, retinas and everything else and collect the data and send it to their "war rooms" to look at the data from every freakin angle  and poll test it with every conceivable response and then be ready to hit all the adoring media outlets with rapid fire overwhelming blitzkrieg airway and digital saturation propaganda.   

So not letting them knwo ahead of time unitl "the last minute" what you are thinking or what your response will be to their blitzkreigs is a great strategy.  The question remains though is this really a deliberate strategy or just the only way Trump knows how to work?  I am not sure.

Like said Hillary is an A+ student when she has time to have her mafia army figure it all out for her and she is an F student without that.   Can anyone trust her as a commander who has to make quick decisions?   -  NO!

Again military strategy does explain this well.
2868  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Rolling Stone and Sean Penn on: January 10, 2016, 11:41:06 AM
This is just so despicable I don't know what to say.  As a victim of organized crime this is just another example of how people idolize cruel people.   I sincerely hope with all my heart and soul that something tragic befalls Sean Penn:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/09/sean-penn-interviewed-fugitive-drug-lord-el-chapo-for-rolling-stone/
2869  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / (Soon to be convict) Sid's source on: January 10, 2016, 11:30:26 AM
Doug,

Sid's source is here.  Of course he recently died:

http://observer.com/2016/01/hillarys-emailgate-goes-nuclear/
2870  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Donald Trump on: January 10, 2016, 11:23:30 AM
Bigdog's article (I mean Crafty's) looking at the campaign of Trump from a military strategy point of view is interesting indeed.   Trump's unpredictable style is actually perfect for Hillary who is an F student in new situations.

Without her machine support telling her what to say, do, behave, dress she is nothing.

Yet the article points out that Trump may not have the capacity to learn and adapt and that may be his downfall.

So far he has displayed some learning of issues but we shall see in time if he can truly rise above the soundbites.

Voting for him is a VERY big risk.

I feel the risk is lower for Cruz and lower still for Rubio but I just don't see Rubio as a world leader.

I like the comparison of Trump to Putin.  There are some similarities.  I certainly like Putin's nationalism.  Unlike the libs here who are selling there own people down the toilet.

But once again I am not sure how Trump would fare on the world stage.   If he insults some in the international community - so what?

Do we want a suck up egg or a leader who represents US?

I want a leader.   Not a PC clown.
2871  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Gov. Jeb Bush on: January 10, 2016, 11:11:30 AM
Jeb comment that Trump has "hijacked the Republican Party" just unmasks the outrageous arrogance of this man.

I respect George H as a great American.   He was too much of a globalist not unlike many progressives as well as a rhino so to speak.

I respect and like W the most.  He is humble brought integrity to the office though of course he was a rhino too and made a mistake with Iraq though well intentioned.

But the chutzpah of this guy Jeb to act and think he is entitled to be President is just off the charts to me.

In this regard he is not unlike Hillary.

I have no respect remaining for him.


 
2872  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Donald Trump on: December 28, 2015, 12:22:36 PM
"The one who reminds me of a Reagan is you-know-who (not Cruz or Trump"

But Doug,

Bobby Jindal dropped out.   grin
2873  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: December 28, 2015, 12:20:38 PM
And people want to complain about corruption in other countries.  It is widespread here.  Clinton has obviously committed multiple felonies and so far not a peep.

The joke is on real law abiding citizens. 
2874  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of the Republicans on: December 24, 2015, 08:04:50 PM
NOTHING makes me want Trump to win more than this from "our" own side".  This is even worse than the attacks from the left.  They still don't get it do they? 

*****George Will: Beating Hillary Less Important Than Stopping Trump
   
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Mark Wilson/Getty Images; Robyn Beck/AFP/Getty

by Ben Shapiro24 Dec 20152,966
 

As the end of the year approaches, Donald Trump is solidly ensconced at the top of the Republican polls nationally. The man just behind him? Senator
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)
, an establishment bugaboo. The establishment’s favorite candidate, Senator
Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL)

, is currently running far behind in national polling, a distant third in Iowa, and in a deadlock with Cruz and New Jersey Governor Chris Christie for second in New Hampshire.
Panic time.

So, here’s the establishment roundup for Christmas week.

If You Support Donald Trump, You Want to Lose. Earlier this week, Bret Stephens of The Wall Street Journal unleashed a petulant column accusing all Trump and Cruz backers of begging for defeat. “Let us now pledge to elect Hillary Clinton as the 45th president of the United States,” he snarked. “Let’s do this because it’s what we want. Maybe secretly, maybe unconsciously, but desperately. We want four—and probably eight—more years of cable-news neuralgia. We want to drive ourselves to work as Mark Levin or Laura Ingraham scratch our ideological itches until they bleed a little. We want the refiner’s fire that is our righteous indignation at a country we claim no longer to recognize—ruled by impostors and overrun by foreigners.” Stephens specifically singled out Cruz for criticism, calling him a flip-flopper “happy to be on any side of an issue so long as he can paint himself as a ‘real Republican.’”

If We Have to Lose to Beat Trump, So Be It. When establishment columnists weren’t painting large swaths of the Republican base as politically suicidal, they were calling for suicide. George Will, iconic columnist, wrote today, “Conservatives’ highest priority now must be to prevent Trump from winning the Republican nomination in this, the GOP’s third epochal intraparty struggle in 104 years.” Never mind that Mitt Romney strayed from conservatism so far that he invented Obamacare; never mind that
Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)
 crafted campaign finance reform and amnesty. No, it’s Trump who singularly represents the death of the conservative ideal.

Of course, Will might just be miffed that Trump recently said “I think I have a much higher IQ… You have these guys like George Will. He sits with the little spectacles. If he didn’t have the spectacles, you wouldn’t think he’s smart because he’s wrong so much.”

Hey, Anybody Wanna Start a Third Party? Months ago, establishment Republicans complained that Donald Trump would not vow to forgo a third party run. Now, they’re thinking of a third party themselves. Weekly Standard editor-in-chief Bill Kristol tweeted:

Crowd-sourcing: Name of the new party we’ll have to start if Trump wins the GOP nomination? Suggestions welcome at editor@weeklystandard.com

— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) December 20, 2015

And as I explained earlier this week:

Politico’s Jeff Greenfield says, “If the operatives I talked with are right, Trump running as a Republican could well face a third-party run – from the Republicans themselves”….Jeb Bush’s aides “began looking into the possibility of making a clear break with Trump – potentially with the candidate stating that, if Trump were the nominee, Bush would not support him.” Last week, MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough said that former Mississippi governor Haley Barbour “and a lot of the Republican leaders would much rather Hillary Clinton be President of the United States than have Donald Trump represent them as a Republican.” And in November, The Hill reported that “GOP establishment donors have confided to The Hill that for the first time in recent memory, they find themselves contemplating not supporting a Republican nominee for president.”

Gawd, Almighty. Jonah Goldberg of National Review sounded the alarm in September when he wrote, “Well, if this is the conservative movement now, I guess you’re going to have to count me out.” That’s been a consistent refrain from some of the columnists over at National Review – many of whom I like, respect, and read regularly. But here’s the problem, again: this is the party of Bob Dole and George H.W. Bush and John McCain and Mitt Romney. Ideological purity, unfortunately, went out the window long ago. And many of those who have suddenly discovered ideological purity didn’t have it when they were touting John Kasich. Today, Goldberg writes hilariously that he has endorsed the Sweet Meteor O’Death:

Only one candidate can unite us all in a way George W. Bush and Barack H. Obama could not. You’ve probably already guessed who I have in mind. But just in case you haven’t, it’s the Sweet Meteor O’Death, or, as he’s known on Twitter, @Smod2016.

There’s only one problem for Goldberg: Donald Trump may in fact be the Sweet Meteor O’Death.

So, here we are. Trump isn’t going anywhere, and he isn’t going anywhere because the same people who decry his rise are the ones who told grassroots Republicans to ignore conservatism in favor of “who could win.” Merry Christmas, establishment Republicans: you can thank yourselves for that giant lump of coal in your stocking.

Ben Shapiro is Senior Editor-At-Large of Breitbart News, Editor-in-Chief of DailyWire.com, and The New York Times bestselling author, most recently, of the book, The People vs. Barack Obama: The Criminal Case Against The Obama Administration (Threshold Editions, June 10, 2014). Follow Ben Shapiro on Twitter @benshapiro.****
2875  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / TrumpClinton poll: DEAD HEAT on: December 24, 2015, 07:51:15 PM
Wow.   I think it is a CNN poll.

PP, check this out:

https://gma.yahoo.com/video/poll-results-show-trump-clinton-234317361.html

Crude grade school language "trumps" lies, sleaze, corruption  grin shocked cheesy
2876  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Donald Trump on: December 24, 2015, 07:39:24 PM
Anyone who thinks Putin knew nothing of this guy's murder with polonium (only 3 countries in the world can even produce it)  can go ahead and vote for Hillary because she is honest.  BTW the polonium trail led back to Russia but Putin refused to let the British police track beyond the airport.  Gee I wonder why.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Litvinenko

I rest my case.  wink
2877  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Obama trickery? on: December 24, 2015, 07:34:44 PM
There is something very suspicious here with this sudden announcement about DHS rounding up a trivial number of illegals.  I suspect OBama thinks that this show is going to somehow lay shame and guilt on the Republicans.
I predict it will be welcomed by more people than they think.  Maybe even more than they think by Hispanics who are here legally.   There is obviously political calculation to this.  Obrock is not doing because it is the right thing.  We know that:

*****A political bomb is about to blow up in the Democrats’ faces

 Greg Sargent December 24 at 9:18 AM   

 
U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson (Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)

THE MORNING PLUM:

This scoop from Jerry Markon and David Nakamura is going to scramble the politics of immigration in the presidential race, and it may create more problems for Democrats than for Republicans:

The Department of Homeland Security has begun preparing for a series of raids that would target for deportation hundreds of families who have flocked to the United States since the start of last year, according to people familiar with the operation.

The nationwide campaign, to be carried out by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents as soon as early January, would be the first large-scale effort to deport families who have fled violence in Central America, those familiar with the plan said. More than 100,000 families with both adults and children have made the journey across the southwest border since last year, though this migration has largely been overshadowed by a related surge of unaccompanied minors.

The ICE operation would target only adults and children who have already been ordered removed from the United States by an immigration judge, according to officials familiar with the undertaking…The adults and children would be detained wherever they can be found and immediately deported. The number targeted is expected to be in the hundreds and possibly greater.

Read the rest for the details, but the short version is that there has been vigorous internal debate inside the Obama administration about this policy, and it has not been signed off on officially. The administration has long signaled that families crossing over illegally who do not qualify for asylum will be deported. But advocates have been urging the administration to treat these migrants as refugees, because experts believe that violence in Central America is a key reason for their efforts to cross the southern border.

In a preview of more to come, a leading immigration advocate, Frank Sharry of America’s Voice, told me that there will be intense pressure on the Democratic presidential candidates — particularly likely nominee Hillary Clinton — to denounce the new policy. Sharry pointed out that this could force Clinton to decide whether to align with immigration advocates and Latinos, as she’s been doing in hopes of winning the Latino vote by a huge margin in the general election, which would mean breaking with the Obama administration and adopting a position that Republicans will attack as weak on immigration enforcement.

“This will be a political nightmare for the Democrats,” Sharry told me. “The specter of raids picking up families and sending them back to violent countries is going to put Hillary Clinton in a difficult position. She’ll have to choose between protecting refugees from Central America, a demand of the Latino community, or standing with the law-and-order position of Obama and Republicans.”

Clinton has faced a similar predicament before. In 2014, when the crisis of unaccompanied children crossing the border dominated the news, Clinton triggered an outcry from immigration advocates when she suggested that they should be “sent back.” Clinton subsequently clarified her position, arguing that the process should be improved so those children who are genuine refugees would be recognized and treated as such. But the episode called into question whether Clinton can take Latino support for granted.

The new moves also may threaten to blur the contrasts that Democrats have been working hard to draw with Republicans. The rise of Donald Trump — with his call for mass deportations and fondness for insulting millions of immigrants — has helped drag the GOP ever rightward on immigration and has Democrats dreaming of a 2012-level victory among Latinos in 2016, a demographic edge that would be very hard for Republicans to overcome. Sharry suggested that if the Dem nominee doesn’t full-throatedly condemn the new policy, it could compromise the sharp contrast Dems have etched.

Indeed, one can imagine Trump taking credit for the stepped-up deportations at one of his rallies, arguing that, by forcing a conversation about the true nature of the immigrant threat (which he likes to claim credit for doing), he has forced spineless elites to confront it. That could theoretically make it harder for Clinton to align with Obama. “The administration will be accused of being Trump-like with immigrants,” Sharry said. “She’ll have
2878  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Donald Trump on: December 24, 2015, 05:34:12 PM
"I have lived under Putin, my daughter still does.... My only comment is, "what's not to like?" Seriously."

Well people who have criticized him have been found dead.  Who would believe this does not occur without his "OK"?

2879  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues on: December 24, 2015, 05:29:44 PM
DDF wrote:

"I was obviously being sarcastic"

Yes I knew you were.  I was just agreeing with you with more sarcasm in the way of phony leftist and Chamber of Commerce propaganda.  cool
2880  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Support our troops on: December 24, 2015, 01:17:47 PM
Interesting.  New ship named after a private first class deceased medal of honor recipient:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/watch-navy-latest-1-8-175000141.html

Seems better than just after another President or State.
2881  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: December 24, 2015, 01:09:32 PM
PP,
I assume you know that photo is faked?
2882  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Media Issues on: December 24, 2015, 01:07:13 PM
Now the headlines are Megyn (egotist) Kelly vs (Trump) the egotist in the marketing gimmicks for the next debate.

Trump should get paid $5 million for his performance from Fox.

Just like celebrity headlines about who is divorcing who, who is sleeping or cheating on who, who is feuding with who.  It is all bullshit to promote sales.

Now the debates have become commercialized crap.

2883  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Donald Trump on: December 24, 2015, 01:03:31 PM
"That there is no proof that Putin is guilty of murder is an absurdity"

I would add, "that there is no proof Hillary is guilty of multiple felonies" is also an absurdity.

There is much corruption here.  Not as violent and maybe more behind the scenes but ask any Eastern European immigrant.  They see it just about as corrupt here in the good old USA.
2884  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues on: December 24, 2015, 12:57:09 PM
"I think they should all get full citizenship."

Absolutely.  This would be "good" for us and for America!

We all benefit.  rolleyes
2885  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: December 23, 2015, 09:31:29 PM
Dick is fun to read and he does sometimes have a unique take but this:

"Ominous implications for Hillary"

Yeah sure.  I'm holding my breath....
2886  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues on: December 23, 2015, 09:26:14 PM
I wonder if DHS sends them postcards to notify them of eviction first or just announce in the newspapers.  The Post will be out there with their cameras decrying the inhumanity of it all and the MSM will playing up that angle to and the racial card and the women and children card:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/us-plans-raids-to-deport-families-who-surged-across-border/2015/12/23/034fc954-a9bd-11e5-8058-480b572b4aae_story.html
2887  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of the left on: December 23, 2015, 07:27:26 AM
Polls shows 59% think Hillary is dishonest and 35% think she is.

The scary part is 35 refuse to admit the truth.

If the 35% said she is dishonest but that they just don't care than that would give me more hope.  What this suggests is that 35% of people are outright liars too.
2888  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Big data and its' use in control of humanity on: December 23, 2015, 07:16:54 AM
What?  I thought big data and computers was supposed to fix these kinds of mistakes.  

http://news.yahoo.com/more-3-000-washington-prisoners-mistakenly-freed-early-100500089.html#

PS,

Crafty - I think this is a valid thread for discussion.  Our every day lives are being increasingly collected, catalogued, measured, categorized, studies from every angle, and used by merchants, business, politicians, criminals, universities, and beaurocrats, and anybody who wants and can find a way to manipulate us. 

The left is using it big time against us.

Did you notice the burlap outfit Hillary was wearing?  Doesn't it ring a bell that it looks like some futuristic outfit from the Sci Fi movies that a mind controlling dictator would wear?

The choice of that outfit is no accident like everything else about Clinton.
2889  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: December 23, 2015, 07:12:25 AM
"Well, Presidential image ended with Clinton and his whoring ways. And it worsened with O'bummer, though one wonders how it could have gotten any worse?"

I agree.  This is one of the reasons I love GW Bush.  Many of us could rightly question his policies but I for one really appreciated and respected his 100% effort at bringing dignity back to the WH.

He kicked the sleaze out the back door.   He led by example. 

I can live with Trump's verbal indiscretions for now.   But if he turns out to be a lib in his policies I won't be able to tolerate it.

Dignity, respect, exemplary behavior, honesty is very important to me.  Without at least a semblance of that we have anarchy.

None of us are perfect but....

 
2890  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: education on: December 22, 2015, 08:05:22 PM
What's the catch?   If a Republican said anything like this there would be a huge eruption all over the MSM:

http://thefederalist.com/2015/12/22/hillary-clinton-if-elected-president-ill-shut-down-50000-public-schools/

Not a peep from the teachers' unions?  What gives?  There must some sort of shell game.  She wants to close all these schools so she can give more money somehow.  What is the punch line?
2891  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: December 22, 2015, 04:03:30 PM
She wouldn't use the restroom while there was one other lady in it.  Too big to restroom I guess.

They really should get her a Johnny on the spot (upscale version of course) for the next debate.  Also makes one wonder what she was doing in the restroom.  Maybe she was getting debate coaching. 

2892  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / For minorities and women; (non minoirty men not invited) on: December 22, 2015, 07:27:10 AM
are at higher risk?   Huh?   Screw the white men who get this.......   Well women live longer than men.

It must be great to stand on a podium and call for a cure using other people's money for a terrible disease.   What a wonderful Godly saint she is.   I am voting for her (sarcasm at max volume): 

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/clinton-to-call-for-alzheimers-cure-increase-spending-to-dollar2-billion-annually/ar-BBnO2JJ?li=BBnb7Kz
2893  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces on: December 20, 2015, 10:17:45 PM
Rush is so brilliant at expressing his thoughts.  He definitely does have a talent from God.  He verbalizes the thoughts and feelings of millions.

Yet the left has somewhat succeeded in marginalizing him.
2894  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness on: December 20, 2015, 10:10:48 PM
He probably just told Hill that he will use it or she will go to jail.

2895  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Donald Trump on: December 20, 2015, 10:07:20 PM
PP:  "There lies the difference with you and I. When I look at the last few decades and the march towards larger and larger government, and then look at debacles like the Ryan Omnibus, what is the difference between the parties. They all say one thing and do another."

We agree on this.  I just saw the movie 'Divergent' on cable.   The parallel analogy of  the fictional "Erudites" in the movie, and the Progressive liberal elites is astounding.  I don't know if author of the novel the movie is based on (Veronica Ross) meant this to be political indictment of the modern Democrat party and how it is heading towards using mind control to take over the rest of us but that is precisely what is happening to us in real life.   In the movie and in real life people lose their freedoms and are controlled and told how to act.   

PP:  "Let's say Hillary wins but the Pubbies retain control of the House and the Senate. How much influence would Hillary have? If you think a lot, then it means that you would expect the House and Senate to continue to give in and not fight her, just like Obama. And if that is so, what the hell good are they?  (Sure, she could try the Executive Order bit, but if the Pubbies had any balls, they could put an end to that.)"

This has been the history for the last 25 years.

PP: "This is a battle for the soul of the Party. It is the middle class base versus the elites and the future of the Party."

True but I am not sure exactly where Trump fits in to redefining the soul of the party as you put it.  Yes he speaks about stopping the illegal flood and even reversing it and other things we like but I am just not sure what his principals are.  When Levin interviewed way back, he asked him what his definition of a conservative was.  Trumps answer was rather vague.  So to me the future of the Republican party under Trump remains an "open book"

PP:  (BTW, if it is Rubio or Cruz as the nominee and either loses to Hillary, which I expect, the GOP is finished anyway. It will be seen as the GOPe having steered the Party to another "electable" nominee, who once again lost. At that point, Trump becomes the leader of the Party no matter what, and even though he does not run again. The times, they are a changin'.)

First, at this point in time at least Cruz is leading Hillary Clinton while Trump lags.  Secondly if Trump loses we are in just as much deep doodoo. 
2896  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Donald Trump on: December 20, 2015, 12:33:10 PM
Well he has no support from his party as well as the propaganda machine from the msm.

But that said if he cannot improve these numbers I cannot support him even though I often agree with him.  I agree with CD and Doug, we cannot let Hillary win.

Unfortunately I agree with him on immigration and temporarily suspending new Muslims from coming to the US.

But we cannot even win those battles without the independents and "rightish" leaning Reagan Democrats and a least some minorities.

Unless Trump can do better with these people he is done for.

I just don't want the whole country taken down with him.   If Hillary is in for 4 or 8 years.....

OTOH there is an excellent chance of some major catastrophic event coming in the next few years so maybe it is better to let the Dems take that fall.  But that is a big if and conjecture all the way around.
2897  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / more propaganda on: December 20, 2015, 12:24:36 PM
Gotta love the phony poses Obama does when he is near Putin.  You know the looks of consternation or leaning in closely with stern facial expressions for the cameras.  Remember the liberal psychologists advising Bill Clinton to have that phony thing he did with his lower lip?

Here is Brock with the same phony lower lip thing:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/obama-visits-san-bernardino-families
2898  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / More evidence Hitler had an undescended testical on: December 20, 2015, 10:45:07 AM
I read that the autopsy on his remains by the Soviets listed this as well but it was unclear how true or accurate that was or if it was made up for propaganda purposes.  Now another source which confirms it:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/adolf-hitler-one-testicle_56765819e4b06fa6887daf84
2899  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Sen.Ted Cruz on: December 19, 2015, 01:09:50 PM
Doug,

"Rubio is the best one to do it.  Rubio will eat Hilllary's lunch over Libya using his mastery of the facts and details about how it was done wrong."

Maybe, but most people don't care about Libya.   That is not going to win him a general election IMHO.

"She can't win without the full support of the Obama get out the vote machine."  

What makes you say that?

"I caught Cruz last night being interviewed by Greta Van Sustern (God! What a moron!"

I couldn't agree more.  Greta's shows are totally boring.  Who cares about some legal technicality of some unimportant trial etc.
Plus there is no doubt in my mind she is a flaming liberal who just keeps it toned down.  She will certainly vote for her fem fatale Hillary.

Additionally I am concluding that Rubio probably is the best all around candidate with his big flaws, particularly on immigration, noted.  But I can bear voting for him a GREAT DEAL more than Bush who I would have stayed home.   Rubio is establishment friendly which is a big problem but it is better than losing to Hillary.
2900  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Open Borders Moneyon Rubio on: December 19, 2015, 12:54:43 PM
Open-borders money backs Marco Rubio    

By Michelle Malkin  •  December 17, 2015 07:35 PM


Open-borders money backs Marco Rubio
 by Michelle Malkin

 Copyright 2015

Political analysis of the Las Vegas debate immigration dust-up between Sens. Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio is missing a key ingredient: the money factor.

You can read the lips of the candidates till the cows come home. But you’ll get to the truth much faster when you learn where pro-amnesty power brokers have placed their bets and hitched their wagons.

Rubio’s brazenly fraudulent campaign to paint Cruz as soft on illegal immigration is a flabbergasting attempt to distract from the Florida junior senator’s faithful allegiance to the open-borders donor class.

Here’s what you need to know:

Facebook, Microsoft and Silicon Valley back Marco Rubio. Mark Zuckerberg is a social justice CEO who panders to Hispanics with his pro-amnesty, anti-deportation advocacy; Facebook is an H-1B visa dependent company working hard to obliterate hurdles to hiring an unlimited stream of cheap foreign tech workers. It’s no coincidence that Facebook’s lobbying outfit, FWD.us, was waging war on Sen. Cruz online this week in parallel with Sen. Rubio’s disingenuous onstage attack.

The D.C. front group, which Zuckerberg seeded in 2013 with nearly $40 million during the Gang of Eight fight, has consistently provided political protection for Rubio as he carried their legislative water.

FWD.us’s GOP subsidiary, “Americans for a Conservative Direction,” showered Rubio and pro-illegal alien amnesty Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., with millions of dollars in media ad buys. The group also funded a deceptive, $150,000 ad campaign for immigration sellout Rep. Renee Ellmers, R-N.C., which falsely claimed she opposed amnesty to help her fend off a primary challenge. In all, FWD.us spent an estimated $5 million on TV and radio spots in more than 100 GOP districts before the Senate passed the Gang of Eight bill in June 2013.

Zuckerberg personally donated to Rubio, as have pro-H-1B expansionist Silicon Valley CEOs from Oracle, Cisco and Seagate. Microsoft, founded by leading H-1B/amnesty cheerleader Bill Gates, has been Rubio’s No. 2 corporate donor the past five years.

Paul Singer backs Marco Rubio. The hedge fund billionaire announced his support for Rubio in October. Amnesty is and always has been a top agenda item for Singer, who helped fund the National Immigration Forum along with fellow hedge fund billionaire George Soros. NIF propped up a faux “grass-roots” initiative of religious conservatives, dubbed the Evangelical Immigration Table, to lobby for the Gang of Eight.

NIF was founded by far-left attorney Rick Swartz, who opposes tracking/deporting visa overstayers and opposes employer sanctions against companies that violated immigration laws. Swartz also served as an advisor to Microsoft.

The Singer/Soros-funded NIF helped sabotage the Immigration Act of 1990, which was intended to impose modest restrictions on immigration, and turned it into “one of the most expansionist immigration bills ever passed,” as one expert put it. On Capitol Hill, Swartz worked closely with immigration expansionist Sen. Spencer Abraham’s legislative director Cesar Conda and Sen. Sam Brownback’s legislative director (now GOP House speaker) Paul Ryan—-who is busy this holiday season fronting an omnibus bill that will open the floodgates to 250,000 unskilled foreign guest workers.

Side note: Beltway establishment fixture Conda previously worked for the pro-amnesty U.S. Chamber of Commerce and mentored Ryan from the age of 19. Conda guided newbie Rubio as his Senate chief of staff from 2011-2014 and remains his powerful immigration Svengali behind closed doors.

Rove/Bush-tied front groups back Marco Rubio. The American Action Network is a Big Business GOP lobbying organization led by former Sen. Norm Coleman, R-Minn., and co-founded with John McCain adviser/fundraiser Fred Malek. AAN shares [clarification: shared] its offices with amnesty peddler Karl Rove’s American Crossroads in D.C. AAN’s “action arm,” the American Action Forum, was founded in February 2010 and proceeded to spend a whopping $25 million to attack conservatives who opposed amnesty. [Correction: AAN embarked on the anti-conservative spending campaign.] Jeb Bush sat on the AAF board.

In 2013, the group dumped more than $750,000 into primetime, Fox News Channel ad buys pushing the Gang of Eight immigration bill, including $100,000 in ads to support leading GOP voices for amnesty, including, you guessed it, Sen. Marco Rubio.

Open-borders Democrats love Marco Rubio. As Sen. Schumer brayed last month: Rubio “was not only totally committed, he was in that room with us. His fingerprints are all over” the Gang of Eight monstrosity. Indeed, Sens. Durbin and Rubio plotted strategy during early morning workout sessions at the Senate gym.

Rubio hired Enrique Gonzalez, a Democratic donor and partner with the global immigration law firm, Fragomen Del Rey, to be his chief adviser on the bill. Gonzalez specializes in obtaining H-1B guest worker visas (tripled in the Gang of Eight bill) and EB-5 visas for wealthy foreign investors. After the bill passed, Gonzalez returned to his law firm as managing partner of the Florida office, where he brags about his role as Rubio’s “special counsel” and “principal advisor/negotiator”—read: bill writer.

Bottom line?

Cruz kept his promise to voters. He voted against the Gang of Eight giveaway. Period.

Rubio broke his promise: He paid lip service to border security and the American Dream, while scheming with Sens. Schumer and Durbin on the 180,000-word, 1,200-page Christmas tree for Big Biz, Big Tech and ethnic lobbyists.

Rubio didn’t just vote for the bill. He and his staff were integral to crafting it, shilling for it, and cashing in on the legislative boondoggle dubbed a “permanent pension plan for immigration lawyers.”

When you need the truth about which Beltway crapweasels are selling out America, always follow the money.
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