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3051  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Wow. This is sick. Dr. took picture of himself with Rivers..... on: September 16, 2014, 08:47:57 PM
Joan Rivers’ Doctor Snapped Selfie During Throat Procedure (Report)

Joan Rivers‘ personal ear, nose, and throat doctor allegedly snapped a selfie with the comedienne while she was under general anesthesia for her throat procedure.

Also read: Joan Rivers’ Endoscopy Clinic Denies Performing Dangerous Throat Biopsy

According to CNN, a Yorkville Endoscopy staff member told investigators the photograph was taken while Rivers was in the procedure room.

The 81-year-old entertainer went to the clinic to undergo a scheduled endoscopy by gastroenterologist and the clinic's medical director Dr. Lawrence Cohen, according to reports. After that procedure, CNN reports Rivers also underwent an unauthorized vocal cord biopsy performed by a physician, who hasn't been identified.

While she was under!

On Friday Yorkville Endoscopy announced Dr. Cohen was no longer medical director of the clinic, located in Manhattan. Reports are conflicting as to whether he voluntarily stepped down or was fired.

“Dr. Cohen is not currently performing procedures at Yorkville Endoscopy, nor is he currently serving as medical director,” a spokesperson from the clinic said in a statement obtained by TheWrap.

Also read: Joan Rivers Funeral: Howard Stern Delivers Eulogy at Star-Studded Service

On Sept. 5 the New York Medical Examiner's Office told TheWrap that the autopsy on Rivers’ body did not yield a firm cause or manner of death, and that further studies would be conducted to determine exactly how she died following the Aug. 28 procedure.

Rivers was immediately rushed to a nearby hospital, but did not recover. She was placed in a medically-induced coma and had been on life support when she died on Sept. 4.
3052  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues on: September 16, 2014, 11:23:23 AM
"Can not a similar argument be made in the tech sector?  That having some cheap hi-tech labor here, companies who otherwise might feel compelled to go offshore (and they face tremendous tax code driven reasons to do so as well!) stay?"

No.  The second assumption about tax codes does not make it ok to incessantly undermine the middle class by bringing in those from around the world who will work for less.   What needs to be done is to make the tax code less rigorous.
3053  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Why are independents always really full blown liberals in disguise on: September 16, 2014, 11:17:52 AM
Meet Greg Orman, the man who could decide the Senate majority

By Sean Sullivan September 4 
 
Independent Senate candidate Greg Orman speaks with reporters Wednesday, Sept. 3, 2014. (AP Photo, Topeka Capital-Journal/Thad Allton)
The question of which political party will control the Senate could come down to a man who says parties are "part of the problem."

That man is Greg Orman, the independent candidate for Senate in Kansas who finds himself at the center of the political universe today. Democratic nominee Chad Taylor abruptly ended his campaign on Wednesday, clearing the way for Orman to have a clean shot at Sen. Pat Roberts (R) -- who, polls suggest, could be unexpectedly vulnerable this fall.

Orman, 45, is a political enigma. Over the years, he's donated money to both liberal Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) and the National Republican Congressional Committee. He says he voted for President Obama in 2008 and Mitt Romney in 2012. And he won't reveal which side he would choose in the Senate.

But national Democrats have been mum about Taylor's sudden departure, fueling speculation the party believes there is a very good chance Orman would side with them. Running in a deeply conservative state, Orman is carefully avoiding any move that would link him too closely with Democrats. At the same time, he's casting himself as a much more moderate alternative to Roberts, who he says has adopted "Ted Cruz's voting patterns."

In a telephone interview with The Washington Post last week, Orman decried the partisan gridlock that has seized Congress. He said that he would likely side with whichever party is in the majority and talk to both sides if he ends up the deciding vote. With a competitive battle for the majority underway, that's a possibility.

"I hold both sides equally accountable," he said.

Orman presented himself as a moderate in the mold of Bob Dole, the former Senate majority leader from Kansas. He took aim at Roberts for voting against the farm bill, and lambasted him for not voting on the VA reform bill.


On immigration, he emphasized the importance of securing the border -- but also said supports a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants and that he would have supported the comprehensive reform bill that passed the Senate last year.

"I think if you're undocumented and you are here, you should have to register with [U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement], you should have to pay a small fine or perform community service as an acknowledgement that you've broken the law," he explained. "Then you should have to hold down a job, pay taxes, obey our laws. And if you do all those things, I think you should be able to continue to live here and work here."

Orman was one of five children of a nurse and a furniture store owner in Stanley, Kan. He graduated from Princeton University, where he was a member of the College Republicans, in 1991 with an degree in economics. Not long after, he founded a company that installed energy efficient lighting systems. In 2004, he co-founded Denali Partners, LLC, an investment firm.

Disillusioned by the George W. Bush administration, according to lengthy explanation of his political history posted on his campaign Web site, Orman decided to become a Democrat. His first foray into elected office was in 2007, when he briefly explored a run against Roberts as a Democrat before pulling the plug on that idea.

He's parked himself firmly in the middle in the years since that short-lived bid. Orman founded the centrist the Common Sense Coalition in 2010. He told The Post -- after initially balking -- that he voted for Obama in 2008 and Romney in 2012. Obama's "very, very partisan approach to health-care," Orman said, led him to opposing a second term.


Campaign finance records reveal that Orman has given to both Democrats and Republicans over the years. About two years after giving money to Obama, have wrote a check to a political action committee founded by Republican Scott Brown.

Orman, for his part, is not taking money from political action committees in his campaign. Through mid-July he had more than $362,000 in his campaign account -- a fairly impressive sum for an inexpensive state like Kansas. And he's left the door open to dipping into his own pockets for more.

Roberts, who is still recovering from a bruising primary campaign in which he was sharply criticized for staying with supporters when he is in Kansas instead of his own home, has signaled that he will try to portray Orman as far too liberal for Kansas.

"We are confident that Kansas voters will quickly see through this charade foisted on Kansas by Orman and his Democrat allies," said Leroy Towns, Roberts's campaign manager, in a statement.

Amid his political shifts over the years, did Orman ever vote for Roberts in a primary or general election?

"Not that I recall," he said. "But I don't remember everybody I voted for over the last 25 years."

3054  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Hillary will win and here is why on: September 16, 2014, 10:59:38 AM
 cry

Doug, 

That Hillary Clinton is a serial liar and outright criminal is clear.

Sadly, many people just don't care or will look the other way. 

We can minimize her with negative stuff like this (and we should continue to press on about it) but this will not defeat her. 

75% of people in this country are reportedly living from pay check to pay check.  Until Republicans can come up with policies and messages that can resonate to some of these 75% Republicans will always struggle in MHO.
Once again the Clintons show they "get it":.   How to reach the masses and to re-ignite the American Dream without demonizing the rich. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2756751/Hillary-spent-summer-Hamptons-crafting-presidential-message-based-job-creation-friends-say.html

Republicans need to do the same thing but without more government, more regulations, more taxes, and more welfare.  I am not sure if they will or even can.   They just don't seem to be as clever.  And some are clearly corrupt.   

See how the Clintons can continue to stay in the game no matter how vile they are?  They know how to message and sometimes come up with the policies that resonates with many people.

The Republicans can't (or won't). angry cry
3055  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues on: September 16, 2014, 09:39:58 AM
Objectivist,

I agree with you.  I see in health care what you see in IT.  Not only from a state where half of doctors are born in another country but my many patients in IT most of whom are also born somewhere else.
Only when one gets squeezed by the competition does one wonder what is going on.

  I don' think many on this board will agree with us.

The Cans are foolish if they don't see the great political opportunity this opens up in reaching out to new groups of voters.  Jeff Sessions might.  Even Marc Levin who is a promoter of capatilism sees this.

But the rest of the Republicans seem to be too timid or in bed with the likes of Andressen and are more concerned about promoting their business fortunes with cheap labor than the offering jobs to Americans.

I am not a union guy but this is about undercutting Americans - not about unions.
3056  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Isn't it obvious to all of us? on: September 16, 2014, 09:27:23 AM
Well Charles doesn't go far enough.  Of course Obama is a narcissist.  But he also has a *narcissistic personality disorder*.    "Megalomania"  is descriptive of this guy.

*****Charles Krauthammer: Barack Obama ‘narcissist’

By LUCY MCCALMONT | 9/15/14 5:38 PM EDT
Conservative columnist — and former psychiatrist — Charles Krauthammer took time Monday for presidential couch analysis, saying the President Barack Obama is not manic, but rather a narcissist, who “talks like the emperor, Napoleon.”

“So I decided when I left psychiatry never to use my authority. But let me just say as a layman, without invoking any expertise, Obama is clearly a narcissist in the non-scientific use of the word. He is so self-involved, you see it from his rise,” Krauthammer said Monday on the Hugh Hewitt Show, according to a transcript.


Pointing to what Krauthammer called the “theater” of Obama’s 2008 campaign, he continued to slam and assess the president’s personality.

“I think he’s extremely self-involved. He sees himself in very world historical terms, which means A) because he’s an amateur, he doesn’t know very much, and B) because he’s a narcissist, he doesn’t listen,” Krauthammer said.

The conservative emphasized that he doesn’t like to use is authority on psychiatric analyses, “because you really can’t do it at a distance,” but nevertheless offered up a take on Obama.

“My specialty when I was a psychiatrist was bipolar disease. And I wrote some papers on manic disease. He’s not manic, and I don’t think he’s depressed,” Krauthammer said.

He also noted that Obama’s speeches often refer to himself, which Krauthammer suggested Obama has done more than his White House predecessors.

(Full 2014 election results)

“This is a guy, you look at every one of his speeches, even the way he introduces high officials – I’d like to introduce my secretary of state. He once referred to ‘my intelligence community’. And in one speech, I no longer remember it, ‘my military’. For God’s sake, he talks like the emperor, Napoleon,” Krauthammer said.

He continued, “He does have this sense of this all being a drama about him, and everybody else is just sort of part of the stage.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/09/charles-krauthammer-barack-obama-narcissist-110975.html#ixzz3DULc9g4s
3057  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness on: September 11, 2014, 10:14:26 AM
Yes more vocal critics on the Left as well as the Right of his foreign policy (now the damage is done), but I wouldn't rest till the case is won that his domestic policy is even MORE of a disaster, knowing full well the benefits crowd will never leave him or their beloved paymasters  -  The Democrat Party.

And by '16 we will have 20 million new voters the vast majority who are Democrats to deal with.   Texas is next on their hit list.

Did you see that 1 out of 3 public school students in California are either illegal or cannot speak English.  For God's sake there are 40 million people there.  I remember when the population of the entire US was only around 150 million.   This is nuts.  How are all these people helping the economy?  Explain that to me Fuckerberg?

All wealthy "liberals* should be taxed at a rate of 90%.
3058  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Sen.Ted Cruz on: September 11, 2014, 10:06:08 AM
I think he could have been a tad more tactful though. 
3059  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / morning psychobabble on: September 11, 2014, 10:04:38 AM
Well, some also "worship" satan.  Some Idolize Hitler and other mass murderers.   So this is not too surprising.   Probably isolated kid who feels like outcast so as to feel like part of something bigger she does this stuff.  There is something romantic about being a "revolutionary" as well.   Fosters romance amongst the young.  Reminds me of the Stalin biography and how so many women were attracted to him even before he was powerful.   It was the young romance thing.   Like "Oh we are saving the world together".   Wasn't being an anti war protester in the 60s a way for kids to connect.  To get girls or guys.   

It sure doesn't help to have a liberal MSM and educational system that has made America into the world's evil villain responsible for all its problems.   The poor oppressed Muslims and the Indians and the Blacks, and Women, and the rest of it.  All evil Western  Christian white men.

Perhaps they should have let her go to Syria.  She wants to be there in that environment and that culture.   Good riddance.   Eventually she would come crawling back begging to be American again.  If not killed raped or enslaved by then:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/colorado-teen-shannon-conleys-support-of-isis-raises-alarm-about-american-jihadists/
3060  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Correct election map for Senate 2014!!! on: September 11, 2014, 09:48:48 AM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2014/senate/2014_elections_senate_map.html
3061  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / A Jew who escaped the holocaust played Nazis on: September 11, 2014, 09:42:11 AM
Interesting read on Sgt Schulz of Hogan's Heroes fame.  I was not a big fan of the show really but I certainly remember it and him well.

He left Austria when Hitler annexed it and came to America and quickly learned English (just like today:(( )
Many of his relatives left behind like most of the others all died.   He for some reason (accent?) was type cast into playing Nazi roles:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Banner
3062  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Nothing wrong with his stance on: September 11, 2014, 09:18:35 AM
but he is sure "rough around the edges":

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/09/10/Ted-Cruz--Opposition-to-Israel-Led-to-Me-Leaving-Event
3063  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: September 11, 2014, 09:04:22 AM
Doug writes:

"Inevitable that she will run, win the nomination, and win the general election?  I don't think so.   )"

I hope your right.   But they have such a mafia like mob behind them and so many careers, opportunities, money at stake for so many who have influence, money and power and want more of the same that t she is a formidable force even though flawed when she tries to think and speak unprepared as well as everything else we know about here.


3064  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / NYT starting to turn on BamBam in prep for the next liar in chief Hillary on: September 11, 2014, 08:54:14 AM
This is really a Clinton story.   The Clintonites are turning the screws to BamBam to clear the stage for their new exalted chosen one:  Hillary.
********NYT Baghdad Bureau Chief: Obama 'Ignored' Iraq, Is 'Ignorant of Reality'
 
by Jordan Schachtel  10 Sep 2014 430  post a comment 


Tim Arango, Baghdad Bureau Chief of the New York Times, lit up President Obama’s Middle East policies in a recent “Ask Me Anything” Q & A session with users of the online forum Reddit.

One user asked, “How do you rate the Obama administration’s actions in Iraq? What did they do right? What did they get wrong?

The Baghdad Bureau Chief responded by bluntly stating that the Obama administration since 2011 has “basically ignored the country [Iraq].”

He continued, “when [US] officials spoke about what was happening there they were often ignorant of the reality.”

The NYT correspondent said that Obama officials stubbornly refused to see the realities on the ground, “because it conflicted with their narrative.”

He then took a jab at Deputy National Security Advisor Tony Blinken, known as one of the President’s trusted advisers on foreign policy.

“In 2012, as violence was escalating I wrote a story, citing UN statistics, that showed how civilian deaths from attacks were rising,” Arango added. “Tony Blinken, who was then Biden’s national security guy and a top Iraq official, pushed back, even wrote a letter to the editor, saying that violence was near historic lows. That was not true.”

Blinken is now Deputy National Security Advisor to President Obama. After obtaining his JD Columbia Law School, he went straight into Democratic politics -- fundraising for the presidential campaign of Michael Dukakis. Blinken then joined the Clinton administration under the assistant Secretary of State for European and Canadian affairs. In 2008, he worked on Joe Biden’s failed campaign for President but was then appointed by President Obama to be his Deputy National Security Advisor in January of 2013.

VP Biden has previously referred to Blinken as his “go-to-guy” on Iraq -- known for helping to facilitate the US withdrawal from Baghdad -- a plan marred by the administration's failure to secure a status-of-forces agreement.

Even when the Islamic State was marching across Iraq unchecked, Obama officials ignored the jihadi group’s rise because it wasn’t politically expedient to tackle such issues, according to the NYT journalist.

Arango concluded: “Even after falluja fell to ISIS at the end of last year, the administration would push back on stories about Maliki’s sectarian tendencies saying they didn’t see it that way. So there was a concerted effort by the administration not to acknowledge the obvious until it became apparent -- with the fall of Mosul -- that Iraq was collapsing.”

3065  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / cheerful way to start our mornings on: September 11, 2014, 08:22:46 AM
Notice the horse drawn carts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOb5Yq-mQsw
3066  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Go to next post on this thread on: September 11, 2014, 08:13:12 AM
Better link
3067  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues on: September 06, 2014, 07:44:41 PM
Back on August 10th I posted this in response to the rumors he would grant amnesty very soon:

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I guess I am wrong.  I thought he would wait till after the election.  He probably figures why bother. "

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Now just to prove me right all along he decides he will indeed wait till safely after the election than screw the rest of us over afterwards.
3068  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Governor debate on: September 06, 2014, 07:37:27 PM
Is this GOP challenger this good?   Any chance or am I California dreamin':

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/gop-challenger-hammers-brown-california-governors-debate
3069  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iran on: September 01, 2014, 11:10:45 AM
What I really don't understand is why does Obama think he is the only who can and does lie?

Bottom line.  He knows this.  He just doesn't care.  He plays "American" just enough to prevent a liberal slaughter at the next election.
3070  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / This is one time on Obama's side on: September 01, 2014, 11:07:56 AM
AND Ws too and Clintons(Huh).  Could anyone imagine this happening during WW2?   Freedom of the Press or freedom to a reporter to make money for himself?  What say u

Why The Obama Administration Wants This Journalist In Jail

Business Insider
By Brett LoGiurato 4 hours ago
 
REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque

President Barack Obama came into office in 2009 promising a new era of unprecedented transparency in his administration. But when he leaves office, reporters may remember him for an effort that has largely turned out to be the opposite — and for being what one affected reporter has called the "greatest enemy to press freedom in a generation."

At a time when journalists' roles in covering different, critical conflict zones have been under the microscope, renewed attention has come to the case involving James Risen. He is the New York Times journalist who has been fighting efforts by two different Departments of Justice — under Presidents Obama and George W. Bush — to compel him to identify sources from a  2006 book that reveals a secret CIA plan to sabotage Iran's budding nuclear program.

For the past five years, he has battled the Obama administration's Justice Department, which in 2009 took a rather unprecedented step of renewing a subpoena scheduled to expire that year. From his case and others the Obama administration has pursued, Risen told The Times' Maureen Dowd recently that Obama represented a fundamental obstacle for press freedom.

"It’s hypocritical," Risen said. "A lot of people still think this is some kind of game or signal or spin. They don’t want to believe that Obama wants to crack down on the press and whistleblowers. But he does. He’s the greatest enemy to press freedom in a generation."

Risen's Case

There's a perception, many observers of Risen's case say, that Obama is viewed by the public as different and as overtly friendly with the press. They think that perception is wrong.

They point to the Obama administration's use of the Espionage Act to prosecute government employees more than any other administration in history, saying it is borne out of a necessity to viciously control the flow of information. In 2009, when Risen's subpoena first expired, the Obama administration took the unusual step of renewing it and continuing to pursue the case.

"He promised to be a different kind of president," said Jerry Kammer, a former Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter who now works at the Center for Immigration Studies. "But he has only suppressed efforts to disclose the government's misdeeds. His administration has been untransparent at so many levels."

Kammer was one of 14 Pulitzer Prize winners, spanning 1982 to 2014, who issued statements earlier this month in support of Risen. The group that put together the statements, Roots Action, also delivered a petition with more than 100,000 signatures to the Justice Department's Washington headquarters.

Earlier this summer, Risen failed in an attempt to have the Supreme Court review an order compelling him to testify about the sources in a book he published in 2006. He has vowed to fight on, but he has exhausted all legal options to halt the Justice Department's pursuit of him. He has vowed he is ready to go to jail, even telling his paper he has the books he will take with him already picked out. He could be the first reporter since The Times' Judith Miller in 2005 to go to jail for refusing to reveal the name of a source.

"The government likes to keep its house in order and likes to go after every possible leaker it can find," said Gregg Leslie, the legal defense director at the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press.  "They really just don't believe in whistleblowers or leakers."



In 2006, Risen published "State of War: The Secret History of the CIA and the Bush Administration." One chapter in the book detailed a secret CIA plan — started under the administration of then-President Bill Clinton and supported by the Bush administration — to sabotage Iran's then-budding nuclear program. (You can read an excerpt of the chapter here at The Guardian.)

It was an embarrassment for the CIA and for the government. The CIA chose a Russian defector to give deliberately flawed nuclear blueprints to Iranian officials. The flaws, however, were easily detectable, and the Russian defector tipped off the Iranians to maintain his credibility and not draw suspicion as a source, according to the book. In the end, "Operation Merlin," as it was codenamed, may have aided Iran in its plans to develop a nuclear weapon.

" This espionage disaster, of course, was not reported. It left the CIA virtually blind in Iran, unable to provide any significant intelligence on one of the most critical issues facing the US — whether Tehran was about to go nuclear," Risen wrote.

In late 2010, the federal government indicted Jeffrey A. Sterling, a former CIA operative,  with leaking the classified information to Risen. The government wants to compel Risen to reveal his source independently.

Observers of the case view it as pure retaliation. There is a compelling interest to know when the government screws up, Leslie said. And if Risen is compelled to reveal his sources, it could have a "chilling effect" on other government whistleblowers who would be willing to share that information with journalists.

"This is what the American people need to know," Leslie said.

"If we're talking constantly about how evil the Iranian government is and how dangerous it is that they're getting weapons-grade nuclear materials — and we had a role in getting that to them. Whether accidentally or stupidly or however, the American people need to know that."

The Justice Department declined to comment about an ongoing case.

 'Here In The United States Of America'

Some reporters and observers of the Risen case say it is especially important in light of recent world events. In Ferguson, Missouri, where racially charged protests raged for more than a week after the killing of an unarmed black teenager, multiple journalists were arrested.

In one high-profile incident emerging from the Ferguson protests, reporters from The Washington Post and The Huffington Post were arrested in a local McDonald's. The outrage that ensued prompted a personal response from the president.

" Here, in the United States of America, police should not be bullying or arresting journalists who are just trying to do their jobs and report to the American people on what they see on the ground," Obama said in a statement from Martha's Vineyard the next day.

Police treatment of journalists and civilians in Ferguson, Missouri, has drawn scrutiny.


But that is exactly what many people think he's doing in the case of prosecuting Risen and others. Under Obama, the Justice Department has broadly increased leak investigations.

"There's far more ramifications for journalists from this case," Kammer said, "than anything that happened in a McDonald's restaurant in Ferguson."

In the investigation stemming from a 2009 leak of classified information involving North Korea, for example, investigators probed security-badge access records to monitor the comings and goings of Fox News reporter James Rosen with the State Department.

An FBI agent also wrote in an affidavit that by soliciting classified information from Stephen J. Kim, a former State Department official, Rosen was an "aider and abettor and/or co-conspirator" in leaking the information and could be charged as a "co-conspirator" in the case.


Weeks after the case involving Risen was reported last year, the Associated Press revealed that federal investigators obtained nearly two years of phone records from its reporters in another leak case.

One former Justice Department official told Business Insider the Obama administration's increased pursuance of leak cases was mostly a product of having so many new tools available at its disposal to track down the leakers.

It is also a product, the official said, of a more sensitive world post-Sept. 11, 2001. The official said it was likely to only escalate with future presidencies, as the U.S. continues to grapple with a copious number of global threats.

Leslie,  the legal defense director at the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, also noted the government's capabilities to find out where leaks originate.

"The point I always make is that I'm not sure it's the Obama administration alone, but rather the institutional government that's going to be here no matter which party is in control of the White House," he said.

"They've got new, invasive, and incredibly advanced tools for discovering information. And they're going to exploit those as much as they can. I don't see much animus on the part of the administration or from Obama himself. It's more that the post-9/11 reality seems that they are going to relentlessly pursue every leaks case."

He added: "I say that not to give Obama an excuse but to say that, no matter who's elected next, it's going to continue — unless something is done about it."

That would take a groundswell of public outcry — or perhaps a legislative fix. At this point, neither seems likely.

For example, pollsters found it difficult to poll Americans on their opinions of the Justice Department's  subpoenaing of the Associated Press reporters' phone records, in part because public attention was not at all focused on the story. According to a Pew Research Center poll, Americans said they disapproved of the Justice Department's actions by only an 8-point margin.

Meanwhile, a federal version of a shield law, which does not exist, has languished in Congress, and no action is likely this year. The best chance for a law this year is an amendment to the Justice Department's appropriations act offered by Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Florida), which passed in late May. But it is unclear if that amendment will survive the reconciliation process.

The Risen case, Leslie said, provides a clear picture for why a federal shield law is needed to complement similar laws in 49 states. The Supreme Court's dismissal of his petition, Leslie said, is more evidence of what he called a "disturbing" trend — federal courts have been less and less willing to side with reporters' arguments.

Said Leslie: "If courts can not give you that relief, then you need legislative relief. It has to happen."
3071  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Dred Scott revisited on: August 31, 2014, 11:50:38 AM
Dred Scott.   The man himself seems elusive.   He was clearly illiterate.    Married twice and at around 41 married a second time to a 19 year old.   Has descendants.   Died only 16 months after finally being granted freedom and an eleven year battle in the Courts.   He is quoted as saying he wouldn't have brought the case forward if he had known how long it would take.   He was reportedly considering touring his story around for profit but his wife said the could make a living "on their own".   Only one photo of him on record and we are lucky to even have that one.  His only know "signature" or anything that survives from "his own hand" is an "X" he signed on the dotted line.   His case was really an open and shut case.   The laws in those days apparently allowed for a slave to be freed if he lived for a time in free state territories.   Yet he lost initially because evidence was suppressed by the judge.   And of course the Roger Taney Supreme Court decision (7 of 9 judges affirmed the decision) that ruled he was not a citizen and not entitled to freedom.  

This seems like a pretty realistic investigation into the man as well as the story and tries to impart reality from myth and legend and early biased white accounts and later black rewriting of history accounts:

http://www.common-place.org/vol-08/no-03/arenson/
3072  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Anti-semitism & Jews on: August 31, 2014, 10:53:11 AM
BBG
Good post.  Sorry you no longer find the board interesting enough.   I for one would like your opinions or posts again.

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A different topic about Jews AND their party affiliation:

Jews will not become Republicans as noted here many times as per this author, but he needs to write the part 2 to this - which are the reasons why so many Jews are Democrat liberals which I have posted on the board my multiple theories:


******Will Jews turn on Obama, Dems in 2014 and turn out for GOP?

By  Zev Chafets
·Published August 29, 2014·
FoxNews.com

This year, as in every election year since Barack Obama has been in the White House, we are hearing the cry of the hopeful Republican: This is the year that Jewish voters and donors and activists are going to turn on the president and his party and turn out for the GOP.

 The hope stems from a few observable truths. President Obama is not a great friend of Israel and he visibly doesn’t get along with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

The American Jewish community – white, assimilated and prosperous – is out-of-place in a Democratic Party determined to build a coalition around an appeal to racial gender minorities, unmarried women, the LGBT community, immigrants and the dependent poor. And while the Jewish community is shrinking because of low birthrates and intermarriage, its Orthodox wing – strongly pro-Israel and socially conservative – is gaining in numbers and self-confidence.

The great majority of American Jewish Democrats see their party and its agenda as their secular religion.

All this, according to some conservative pundits, has created a tipping point. In November, they say, Jews could turn out in key congressional elections, especially in Senate contests, and vote for Republicans who have made support for Israel a signature issue. And in 2016, fed up with Obama’s chilly attitude toward the Jewish state and his weakness in the face of Islamic aggression, Jews could abandon their traditional affiliation with the Democrats and give their energy, their contributions and their votes to the Republicans.

 I hate to rain on anybody’s inaugural parade, but this is sheer fantasy.

Jews are not simply supporters of the Democratic Party; they are at the heart of everything from union leadership to campaign funding, think-tank policymaking to grass roots organizing.

Three of the four liberal justices on the Supreme Court are Jews. There are 10 Jewish U.S. senators and more than 20 Jewish members of the House.

In contrast, after the departure of Majority Leader Eric Cantor, there isn't a single Jewish Republican in Congress (or in any statehouse). And 2014 isn't going to reverse that.

There are only three congressional races – two in New York, one in Connecticut – where Jewish candidates are considered competitive, and all three are long shots. The GOP has no Jewish senatorial candidates at all.

 The Republican side of the aisle in both houses of Congress has, and will have, about as many Jewish members as the Icelandic parliament.

There aren't even any great Hebrew hopes out there, just a few obscure local politicians who might, someday, run for higher office. The best known (and most influential) Republican Jew in America is Sheldon Adelson, the octogenarian casino mogul and mega-donor. Whatever Adelson’s virtues, he isn't anybody’s idea of an electoral poster boy.

 Of course you don’t have to be Jewish to get Jewish votes. Al Smith, a New York Catholic, won almost 75 percent in his loss to Herbert Hoover in 1928. Franklin Roosevelt got between 85-90 percent in four straight elections. John F. Kennedy, the son of a notorious anti-Semite, topped 80 percent in 1960. Four years later, Lyndon Johnson got 90 percent running against Barry Goldwater, the grandson of frontier Jews. Obama got 69 percent of Jewish voters in 2012.

In the last 20 presidential elections, only Jimmy Carter, a transparently unfriendly figure, got less than two-thirds of the Jewish presidential vote – and even he out-polled the strongly pro-Israel Ronald Reagan.

The fact is, the great majority of American Jewish Democrats see their party and its agenda as their secular religion. Reform Judaism, America’s largest Jewish denomination, is sometimes jokingly called “the Democratic Party with holidays.” A lot of Jews would sooner convert to Shia Islam than leave the party of their forefathers.

Republicans sometimes wonder at this loyalty. After all, polls show that they and their voters are more pro-Israel than Democrats. Republicans are attracted to the Jewish state because of its pioneer ethos, its “peace through strength” posture in the face of anti-Western jihad, its reflexive pro-Americanism and, for Christian evangelicals, its biblical roots.

None of this means much to most American Jews, however (except to the Orthodox, still a relatively small minority). There isn't much data, but conventional political thinking is that secular Jews, to the extent they are voting as Jews, are more concerned about a woman’s right to choose, gay rights or comprehensive immigration reform than they are about specific Israel-related policy.

 Jews of all sorts tend to be pro-Israel. For many it is personal. But that doesn't mean supporting specific policies. The Democrats will retain their loyalty as long as the party maintains an acceptable level of support for Israel – to be, as Barack Obama once said about Hillary Clinton in a different context, “likable enough.”

President Obama clears that bar. Clinton, if she runs in 2016, will do even better. Bibi Netanyahu would prefer a Republican president, but he won’t be on the ballot, and any candidate he supports will lose big time to Hillary Clinton. Or Chelsea, for that matter.

Zev Chafets is a Fox News contributor.
3073  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / United Kingdom Independence Party on: August 30, 2014, 10:32:34 PM
Similarities to the Tea Party:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_Independence_Party
3074  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Speak loudly and carry on: August 29, 2014, 10:45:15 PM
a tiny stick.  If I was Putin I would be laughing out loud.  As an American I am saddened:


****WHITE HOUSE TO PUTIN: Don't 'Even Think About Messing Around' With The Baltics
Business Insider
By Brett LoGiurato 5 hours ago

..S. President Barack Obama (R) shakes hands with Russia's President Vladimir Putin in Los Cabos, Mexico, June 18, 2012

REUTERS/Jason Reed

President Barack Obama's message to Russian President Vladimir Putin when traveling to Europe next week is to not "even think about messing around" with the Baltic states, the White House said Friday.

Obama is traveling to Europe next week for a meeting in Wales with other NATO leaders. He'll also make a stop in  Estonia, where he will meet with the leaders of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania in an attempt to reassure allies amid burgeoning Russian aggression in Ukraine.

"The two stops are essentially part of the same effort to send a message to the Russians that their behavior is unacceptable," Charles Kupchan, the White House's senior director for European affairs, said in a conference call with reporters Friday afternoon.

"You have in Estonia a large Russian population, and therefore part of the message that the President will be sending is, we stand with you. Article 5 constitutes an ironclad guarantee of your security. Russia, don’t even think about messing around in Estonia or in any of the Baltic areas in the same way that you have been messing around in Ukraine."

NATO's Article 5 requires that all members of the alliance come to the defense of any member that is attacked or targeted.

Ukraine is not a member of NATO, and it has been one of Russia's goals to keep Ukraine from entering into both NATO and the European Union and thus forge closer ties with the West. Ukrainian Prime Minister  Arseny  Yatsenyuk said Friday the country would begin the process of seeking NATO membership.

When asked about Ukraine's possible future membership, Kupchan said it was not under discussion by NATO at this time but added that the "door is open" to any country that is  "willing to contribute to security in the Euro-Atlantic space."


Ukraine said it would seek to become a member of NATO.
Russia's neighbors like Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania — which all have substantial Russian-speaking populations — have grown concerned in the face of increasing Russian intervention in Ukraine, which amplified this week.

Pro-Russian separatist  rebels have opened a new front in the cities of Amvrosiivka and Starobeshevo, creating a fear is that Russia is attempting to create a land link between Russia and the strategic peninsula of Crimea. Russia  annexed  the peninsula special forces troops in March.

Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said Russian troops are  leading  a separatist counteroffensive in the east, bringing in tanks and firing artillery from inside Ukrainian territory. NATO subsequently backed up his claims, saying more than 1,000 Russian troops had crossed the border and were fighting in Ukraine.

"I think what you’ll see is progress on the defense spending side, progress particularly on increasing the readiness times of NATO forces," Kupchan said.

"Because I think one of the things that we’ve learned from the situation in Ukraine is that oftentimes in this new world that we live in, NATO or individual countries may be facing not armored columns coming across their border, which you can usually see in advance, but guys coming across in masks, you don’t know who they are — what we could call hybrid warfare, or asymmetric warfare. And that requires a very different kind of military response than NATO has traditionally been focused on."


3075  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / second post on this thread today on: August 29, 2014, 10:39:11 PM
Lets hope that if the Republicans fail to take the Senate that the big donors will wisen up and stop giving to Rove and crew.

OTOH I don't understand their murky complex relationship so I am not confident about that.
3076  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Paul Ryan on: August 29, 2014, 10:35:46 PM
I read this piece in the Hillsdale publication.  Very thoughtful but I have real problems with him talking up the left's social programs like soc. sec. etc. as being wonderful.

But at least he is thinking big.  Far bigger than Rove and the Bush crowd.

 
3077  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Heard this on Levin today on: August 29, 2014, 10:32:22 PM
I couldn't agree more.   Get the Bushes and crew into the parties' proverbial  back of the bus.  They are going to bring the party into the garbage if not already so:

      
****August 29, 2014

Why Karl Rove and the GOP Establishment Will Lose Again

By C. Edmund Wright

Karl Rove is at it once again. The so-called “strategist” is again confusing strategy with tactics, and is about to blow easy Senate pickups in Arkansas and North Carolina. This is not merely snatching defeat from the jaws of victory -- this is snatching defeat from the bowels of victory -- in astonishing tone-deaf fashion.

There is absolutely no excuse for not winning these two races.

So how is the one-time “boy genius” doing this? By running ads attacking Senators Mark Pryor and Kay Hagan from the left. Yes, you heard that right. Rove’s Crossroads GPS PAC is insisting in their latest ads in both states that Republican candidates Tom Cotton and Thom Tillis are better liberals than Pryor and Hagan, at least on Social Security. The ads attack Hagan and Pryor for wanting to raise the eligibility age for the defunct program.

Okay. So let’s somehow miss that Obama and Harry Reid are toxic associations in red states. Forget that ObamaCare is showing how big government liberalism is an abject failure. Forget that the VA scandal is showing the same thing. Forget that workforce participation is the lowest in history. Forget that the hated IRS has been outed as an arm of the Democrat party. Forget that deficits are at a record. Forget that the entire country is starting to recognize that our national nausea is almost always being caused by too much nanny-state liberalism.

Can’t mention those. No no. We have soccer mom focus group data that shows blah blah blah….

Rove and the GOP elite need to put down their pizzas and get out of the focus-group lab and into the real world a little bit. If they did, it might dawn on them to run a campaign of big ideas and overarching themes. You know, to tap into that anti-liberal anti-big government/nanny state mood? (No, that can’t work. I mean, those unapologetic big picture conservative campaigns fail every time -- you know, like in 1980, 84, 94, and 2010. And of course, the moderate fake right, go left, niche-by-niche strategies tried in 96, 98, 2006, 2008 and 2012 worked so well, right?)

So how does all of this self-evident history, not to mention a common sense understanding of human nature, escape all of the top Republican messaging sorcerers? One big factor is the isolated bubble that is Washington (and includes the New York media center). Precious little reality seeps into this bubble. Conservative columnist John Nolte even theorizes that the media is just as intent on shielding Washington Republicans from exposure to what’s really going on outside the beltway as they are to push their general liberal bias. He may have a point.

But there’s more.

Rove has the mind of a tactician, and a good one. He was a direct-mail guru for a long time before rising to prominence in the George W. Bush campaigns and administration. The problem is that he is now so involved with strategy -- and with the main thrust of messaging. Tactics and strategy are both necessary, but they are very different mindsets and skill sets. Strategy is a big picture right-brained enterprise. Tactics are a bureaucratic left-brained endeavor. The tactician Rove simply does not have the right mindset or skill set to be involved in ‘strategy’ messaging. It’s not who he is. No one is wired to do both.

Thus he runs broadcast campaigns the way he ran direct mail campaigns -- talk abortion over here, trade over there, and social security in another place. The problem is, when you broadcast niche issues, you are destroying your team’s ability to advance a big picture message. Rove is literally campaigning against the overwhelming national zeitgeist with his overresearched misunderstanding of what the tea leaves are saying.

You cannot win this way. It never works. Why would it? It makes no sense except to those who are so bogged down with the minutiae of focus-group research that they can’t see the forest for the trees. Focus groups and snapshot polls are the death of conservative campaigns. Conservatism cannot be understood within the confines of a two-hour focus group, nor can focus groups predict the reaction of voters to a multi-month long campaign of conservative messages in two hours either. Focus groups cannot possibly judge the impact of a long campaign message over time -- and yet, those who push this junk science use them for that express purpose. Rove is a big believer. We are big losers.

Consider: a focus group, by definition, tends toward emotional and big government solutions -- because it is a lowest common denominator pursuit due to the confines of time, peer pressure, and the participant selection process. You can’t even get into one of these groups until you can prove you are low information. Yet inspired by focus-group data, the Rove and GOP establishment-style campaigns continue to be shallow, niche-driven low-information campaigns. They are designed to make the low-information people think that our party joins them in their low-information opinions. I guess it never occurs to these wizards to use a campaign to educate voters and persuade them to join us? You know, like 80, 84, 94 and 2010? Google Reagan, Newt, and Tea Party for clarification.

Rove made a point to personally insult my book at a GOP convention in Charlotte in 2013, calling it a “poorly researched piece of trash.” My reply was that his 400-million-dollar ad campaign in 2012 was the poorly researched piece of trash. So are his campaigns this cycle too.

George W. Bush has called Rove both a “boy genius” and a “turd blossom.” I agree with Bush about 50% of the time, so I’ll go with the latter.

The author is a contributor to American Thinker and Newsmax TV, is author of Amazon bestseller WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost…Again, and comments at www.cedmundwright.com.

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3078  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Get written permission for sex? on: August 29, 2014, 09:04:08 PM
Should parents in California teach their children to get signed contracts to have sex before they initiate sex?

There is no end to the politicians, the liberals, and the lawyering of every aspect of our lives:

http://news.yahoo.com/california-passes-yes-means-yes-campus-sexual-assault-092512755.html
3079  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / cannot post on way forward for Republicans thread on: August 28, 2014, 11:16:32 AM
I keep getting notify rather than reply on some threads I pull up......

What is the Republican response to the middle class.  The same old tired few buzz words.  Same old tired stuff of Romney:

tax cuts

trickle down

jobs

"the economy"

My thesis is that is not resonating with the middle class.  IF IT WAS republicans would be winning in landslides.  If they cannot  or can only barely win now with the abomination in the WH now, then they are cooked.  It will over in 10 years once Texas goes Crat with the millions of new Democrat voters flooding the country.

Until republicans can come up with policies that make the playing field at least more competitive and fair for the middle class they will lose or barely win IMHO.  I don't agree with all of this but Republicans HAVE to have some sort of improved and advanced message to address the concerns brought up here.  If not they will always flounder in the wind:

 http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/31/more-republican-crumbs-for-the-middle-class.html
3080  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces on: August 28, 2014, 10:38:19 AM
"It was, and presumably still is, wonderful for picking up girls."

Once on the Atlantic City boardwalk a date and I stopped into a palm readers salon.   We each went in separately.  I cannot even remember what I was told.  Yet my date came out all anxious and silent.  I asked her what happened. She refused to tell me.   She was horrified.   I never learned what that gypsy dressed witch said to her.

3081  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / My daily 2 cents on: August 28, 2014, 10:34:09 AM
Haven't the Israelis proved the only thing the radicals understand is force?

I understand the libs think we just continue to be NICE for decades the radicals or their offspring will eventually learn the life of the love generation.  That violence begets violence and Netanyahu's methods only fosters more hate and violence propagating the endless cycle. 

While we dither not only did ISIS solidify but Iran is closer to nuclear weapons.   If one thinks ISIS is a grave threat with small arms and a few armored vehicles just imagine Iran with nucs.

But don't fear.  Hillary will be tough.

And Rand who won't be has no chance of election - thank God.   

3082  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces on: August 28, 2014, 10:25:46 AM
Objectivist:

"Those people (myself included) who actually enjoy solitude for moderate amounts of time (anywhere from 4 hours to a couple of days) have always been in the minority in my experience."

Just reminds me of watching part of the cable biography on Einstein the other day (again) and how he would sit or days, weeks, months in solitude working out his theoretical problems.

I've read Newton was the same way.   Barely eat or bathe.  Just shut themselves in a room and with brute force of indomitable will come up with theories that could explain the physical world and consequently humanity forever.

Now people like that probably use computers to boost their efficiencies to do the same thing.    The rest of us just cruise around on social or other entertainment type media allowing it to direct our thoughts to some extent.   Free association from our own imaginations is influenced by what we see on the screen.
3083  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Articulating our cause/strategy against Islamic Fascism on: August 28, 2014, 10:16:27 AM
OK. Now how about a credible war against AMeriEuro progressivism?

How is the gop (small letters for affect) going to save the middle class?

The lower classes who are the majority of the entitlement crowd will almost always vote for the Crats.

Just articulating a war on ISIS is easy for the Repubs. 

Hillary will do the same.   

But Newt don't think your chosen ones (establishment Repubs) are going to get elected on foreign policy issues alone or that is going to save America.


3084  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / We'll hear more over the next day or so. on: August 24, 2014, 07:20:20 PM
https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AwrBT0ejf_pTwJ4A4otXNyoA;_ylc=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-?gprid=1IlVXj6TTByQbuVLpXxujA&pvid=.QwtgTk4LjGu2lSBU_p7EQNGNjcuOAAAAAAOFgjH&p=abdel-majed+abdel+bary&fr2=sa-gp-search&fr=yfp-t-901
3085  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Instead of remeber the Alamo on: August 24, 2014, 11:12:34 AM
or the Lusitania it will be remember Foley?

What till it is fully mature and then come out all over the airwaves that this is something the world has never seen.   I guess the General has to get out in front of his (and Obama's) blunders:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/americas-top-military-officer-explained-141448358.html
3086  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / The power of facebook, twitter, youtube - on: August 24, 2014, 10:52:13 AM
somewhat selective:

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/twitter-taken-james-foley-video
3087  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Will on: August 24, 2014, 10:36:17 AM
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/will082314.php3
3088  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Garner again on: August 23, 2014, 08:49:16 PM
Hard to call.   I see the arm under the chin for sure.  He may be applying pressure upwards to lift the head up vs back against the throat. 

That said I see nothing racial about this.   How about marches by thousands for the thousands of gang related deaths each year.

http://time.com/3016326/eric-garner-video-police-chokehold-death/
3089  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Fed agencies being armed; to suppress rightist activity? on: August 23, 2014, 08:06:27 PM
Not sure if this is the right thread or not  John Fund :

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/376053/united-states-swat-john-fund
3090  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Race, religion, ethnic origin, LGBT, "discrimination", & discrimination. on: August 23, 2014, 05:23:28 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/23/police-brutality-michael-brown_n_5700970.html

No actually I am tired of race baiting demonstrators.  I am tired of people not taking responsibility for their actions.  I am tired of bullies going around robbing store clerks and I am tired of juveniles who think they can assault police officers without repercussion.  And finally I am tired of parents and grandparents who seem unable to teach these children right from wrong. 

Shove around an older store clerk after robbing him, walk down the middle of a road which has a sidewalk, refuse to get onto the sidewalk, then assault a police officer and charge him all while he is supposedly walking to grannies house. 

Then have race baiters and the rest of the libs descend on the scene and make this into some sort of bigger issue than it is.

That is what I am tired of. 

3091  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / top political donors on: August 23, 2014, 03:01:34 PM
http://www.opensecrets.org/overview/topcontribs.php
3092  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Progressive donor in TX on: August 23, 2014, 02:57:31 PM
Talk like a socialist while living like a capitalist raking in the dough:

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/113760/meet-amber-mostyn-wendy-daviss-most-powerful-political-patron
3093  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Floundering in the wind on: August 23, 2014, 10:01:49 AM
Talk now of propping up Assad?  Our leaders have no clue.  With this logic they must be wishing they could bring Saddam back from the dead.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/west-poised-to-join-forces-with-president-assad-in-face-of-islamic-state-9686666.html

"For the record, at the moment my sense of things is:

A) support the Kurds-- both their independence and with arms-- with strong consideration being given to establishing the option of a military base or two there.

B) Then, play balance of power games-- let the bad guys kill each other;

C) Support the incipient Israel-Egypt-Saudi-Jordan alliance

D) CONTROL OUR FG BORDER!!! Firmly address issues related to Jihadi holders of US and Euro passports."

E would be to get Democrats out of the White House ASAP though that is not this moment.
3094  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Romney on: August 23, 2014, 09:55:46 AM
"I must say the man looked and sounded very presidential and Ryan looked very Vice-Presidential next to him"

Well they have had many years to practice.

We need someone with charisma to beat the Hillary MOB.   Neither of these guys have it.

If this is the best the right can do (again) than we're sunk.   So far it appears that way.

3095  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Race, religion, ethnic origin, LGBT, "discrimination", & discrimination. on: August 22, 2014, 08:00:31 PM
Or if a police officer in Fergusen said this.

It would headline news all over CNN and he would be forced to resign amidst national MSM upping it into a world wide scandal.
3096  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Homeland Security, Border Protection, and American Freedom on: August 22, 2014, 07:55:46 PM
You mean you don't have to be Kobe Bryant to cut off someone's head with a fishing knife?

Remember when people were scratching their heads wondering why we didn't send the jets in when they were crossing the desert.

It was like have Osama bin Laden in your sights and fail to do anything until it is much harder later.

3097  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / If true anyone care to wager whether will ever see an apology on: August 20, 2014, 07:28:22 PM
from the race baiters.  Including POTH and the AG?   We know Sharpton will BS it into it is "bigger" then this.   I agree with Savage.  Why won't Gates fire this dirtball.:

Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source

By  Hollie McKay
·Published August 20, 2014·
FoxNews.com

Darren Wilson, the Ferguson, Mo., police officer whose fatal shooting of Michael Brown touched off more than a week of demonstrations, suffered severe facial injuries, including an orbital (eye socket) fracture, and was nearly beaten unconscious by Brown moments before firing his gun, a source close to the department's top brass told FoxNews.com.

“The Assistant (Police) Chief took him to the hospital, his face all swollen on one side,” said the insider. “He was beaten very severely.”

According to the well-placed source, Wilson was coming off another case in the neighborhood on Aug. 9 when he ordered Michael Brown and his friend Dorain Johnson to stop walking in the middle of the road because they were obstructing traffic. However, the confrontation quickly escalated into physical violence, the source said.

“They ignored him and the officer started to get out of the car to tell them to move," the source said. "They shoved him right back in, that’s when Michael Brown leans in and starts beating Officer Wilson in the head and the face."

The source claims that there is "solid proof" that there was a struggle between Brown and Wilson for the policeman’s firearm, resulting in the gun going off – although it still remains unclear at this stage who pulled the trigger. Brown started to walk away according to the account, prompting Wilson to draw his gun and order him to freeze. Brown, the source said, raised his hands in the air, and turned around saying, "What, you're going to shoot me?"

At that point, the source told FoxNews.com, the 6-foot-4, 292-pound Brown charged Wilson, prompting the officer to fire at least six shots at him, including the fatal bullet that penetrated the top of Brown's skull, according to an independent autopsy conducted at the request of Brown's family.

Wilson suffered a fractured eye socket in the fracas, and was left dazed by the initial confrontation, the source said. He is now "traumatized, scared for his life and his family, injured and terrified" that a grand jury, which began hearing evidence on Wednesday, will "make some kind of example out of him," the source said.

The source also said the dashboard and body cameras, which might have recorded crucial evidence, had been ordered by Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson, but had only recently arrived and had not yet been deployed.

A spokesman for the St. Louis County Police Department, citing the ongoing investigation, declined late Wednesday to say whether Wilson required medical treatment following the altercation.

Edward Magee, spokesman for St. Louis County Prosecutor Robert McCullough, said the office will not disclose the nature of the evidence it will reveal to a grand jury.

"We'll present every piece of evidence we have, witness statements, et cetera, to the grand jury, and we do not release any evidence or talk about evidence on the case."

Nabil Khattar, CEO of 7Star Industries – which specializes in firearms training for law enforcement and special operations personnel – confirmed that police are typically instructed to use deadly force if in imminent danger of being killed or suffering great bodily injury.

“You may engage a threat with enough force that is reasonably necessary to defend against that danger,” he said.

Wilson is a six-year veteran of the Ferguson police force department, and has no prior disciplinary infringements.

Massive protests have since taken over the St. Louis community, prompting Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon last Thursday to place Highway Patrol Capt. Ron Johnson at the helm of security operations in an effort to calm ongoing tensions. The federal government is also investigating the death, and Attorney General Eric Holder has taken the lead – calling “the selective release of sensitive information” in the case “troubling.”

On Friday, Ferguson police released surveillance video showing Brown stealing cigars from a convenience store just before his death. Jackson came under intense criticism for disclosing the tape and a related police report as he also insisted that the alleged robbery and the encounter with Wilson were unrelated matters. Brown’s family, through their attorney, suggested the tape’s release was a strategic form of “character assassination.”

However, FoxNews.com’s source insisted that there was absolutely no spin agenda behind the tape’s release and that there were a number of Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) media requests filed by media outlets seeking it. Tom Jackson is said to have waited on publicly releasing it, and did not want it shown until Brown’s grieving mother first had the chance to see it.

“He defied the FOIAs as long as he could,” noted the insider. “A powerful, ugly spin has completely ruined public discourse on this whole situation.”

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3098  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Law Enforcement on: August 20, 2014, 08:11:31 AM
Marc Levin questions some of the militarization of police.  He points out of course they need to protect themselves and 38 revolvers are certainly not enough fire power these days.  I agree with him questioning the militarization for Federal agencies. 

Two observations:

We have militarized our own Federal Agencies from law enforcement to paramilitary agencies and have turned our real military into police forces - ass backwards.

Two the left must be besides themselves that this use of force is against LEFTIST radical and minority union and communist groups.  Surely they were preparing to put down RIGHTIST "revolts".   They must be pissed.  They were obviously looking forward to call out the rightist racist pigs (tea party types).  Instead they are the nut jobs:   



http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/08/19/it-has-to-stop-more-than-30-arrested-after-another-violent-night-in-ferguson/
3099  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Race, religion, ethnic origin, LGBT, "discrimination", & discrimination. on: August 20, 2014, 07:27:19 AM
Did anyone watch the CNN series on the sixties?  The leaders of our nation live breath (marijuana) and speak in the 60s.

Some call it the "greatest" decade.
3100  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / my second post after Gms first post here of the day on: August 20, 2014, 07:23:14 AM
From Krauthammer who for reasons unclear to me gives Hillary credit for being right and admits only her motives may be questioned  rolleyes   

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-on-obamas-foreign-policy-clinton-got-it-right/2014/08/14/e67278b4-23e3-11e4-958c-268a320a60ce_story.html
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