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3051  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / For "righties" on: January 16, 2013, 11:45:19 PM
http://www.rightwingnews.com/
3052  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Shock! Schumer for Hagel on: January 16, 2013, 11:40:47 PM
For Democrats party is ALWAYS first:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/16/us/politics/schumer-says-hes-satisfied-with-hagel-on-mideast.html?_r=0 rolleyes
3053  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Joe scarborough on: January 16, 2013, 10:56:43 PM
I can't say I have ever loved the guy but he has become despicable.

Every single time I patrol the cable news and turn on his show he is bashing Republicans. 

That is all he does.

Instead of preaching conservatism and boosting the Republican party he has become an enemy to our side.  He is no better than the liberals he sits with.
3054  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: We the Well-armed People (Gun rights stuff ) on: January 16, 2013, 10:50:02 PM
Crafty posted:

"I would say that a significant MAJORITY of Americans support our gun rights and a significant minority would entertain notions of resistance."

And I would add we can be very sure the Obama administration's Dept. of HS is making, keeping, cataloguing,  watching and studying lists of that significant minority.

3055  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / flu vaccine tax on: January 12, 2013, 03:07:45 PM
I read the reasons proposed.

There is just no end to the imagined wasy to make people cough up more money.

It appears to be limitless.   cry

3056  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Ben Shapiro on: January 12, 2013, 02:47:48 PM
This kid Ben Shapiro is on to something. 

I was reading in the Economist an article on Richard Nixon's library.  How origianlly the Watergate thing was downplayed but now it is run differently it is more the other way around.

The called him Tricky Dick.  They call his political strategies "tricky".

Like going negative on opponents.

Mr. Shaprio would explain this a good example of why Republicans are losing.

The left calls Nixon's politics dirty, tricky.

When they do it, or BOama does the same thing, they call it playing "hardball".


Shapiro is good at pointing out the subtle differences from the MSM, and the Dem party party strategists.

Shaprio worked with Brietbart.
3057  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: January 12, 2013, 02:40:20 PM
Hi Doug and happy New Year to you and my other forum friends.

Dr. Fuchs has had many articles published in the medical journals so that is where I have seen his views before.  One clarification.  The interview I posted was March 2012.  However, his prediction that it would take some sort of major event (like a market crash) before health car policy change could be implemented politically was, I have read, one he has been making long before.  I read his almost verbatim prediction in an article dated back to 2003.  I might hazard to guess people like him were thinking the same thing after the Hillary Care failure back in the 90's.

Certainly he is correct that health care cost's are unsustainable.  He does seem to agree that whatever the changes are to be made it must take into account our country's perhaps unique political, cultural and social values to get political traction.  I am not sure he is enthusiastic about the poltical reality or just recognizing it.  I think most conservatives agree that health care costs are unsustainable and prefer market private market forces to fix them.  I think he is leaning this way vs the left ultra liberals who simply want to ram down one payor government regulated unversal health care down all our throats. 

As I have stated before I am not sure what the answer really is.  I still come to the conclusion (and hope) that modern technology will find cures, better treatments for chronic conditions that allow all of us not only to live longer but be productive longer, work longer and not simply live longer taking more social security, medicare dollars  using up nursing home space etc.

Fro example a real way to treat osteoarthritis and dementia so people can work and live productive lives longer.  Not just play golf longer while collecting their checks.
3058  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / victor fuchs March 2012 on: January 10, 2013, 10:03:27 PM
One economist on the politics of health care.  I would describe him as one of the more conservative members of the "politburo."  Note how he predicted that it would take a economic crash like what we saw in 08-09 to get health care reform.  The libs were ready.  Unlike the smaller minded conservatives who are caught on their heels:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/06/health/policy/an-interview-with-victor-fuchs-on-health-care-costs.html?_r=o
3059  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Way Forward for the American Creed on: December 30, 2012, 02:19:56 PM
This is obviously why we know next to nothing about Brockman's time at Columbia.

Certainly he was indoctrinated by the politburo there.  The Ivy politburo's are the masterminds and he is thier spokesman.

3060  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / GM: think long game on: December 29, 2012, 04:42:03 PM
GM, if you are right and there is a giant crash, the Republicans have to in the words that Rahm Emanuel borrowed and expressed,

"let no disaster go to waste".

Repubs and teapartiers still have to be ready to seize back power when the time is right.  If WE are not ready, the liberals, with a newer version of socialist, communist, one world government will be there to fill the void.

From history

Vladimir Lenin waited his entire adult life fighting for his bolshevik cause, shaping it, studying, re-shaping it more, studying more, getting his propaganda out there so to speak, when to his surprise the time was right several months after the Tsar lost power in 1917 to make his move.  He had his supporters in place, he was known throughout socialist circles due to his propaganda newspapers, and he made his appearance back in Russia with his small circle of accomplices and by sheer force of will, determination, and single mindedness accomplished his goals.   Interestingly, it appears he was coming to the conclusion the time to do this would not come in his lifetime.  He was wrong.  But he was ready nonetheless.

Fast forward to the present time and it is obvious there are no such visible leaders in our party.  No one even close to a Lenin who comes to mind.  No doubt many conservative thinkers including Newt are rethinking this all through.  Till we have OUR ONE we have to hope they can shape things behind the scenes.

If I was younger and smarter I would have liked to have been part of it.  The struggle for freedom has returned.  Some don't see it.  Some don't care,.  Others are bribed.  Some are only looking at their specialty groups agendas.  

Time will tell.  I dread the reality of  of another 4 yrs of the present abomination.

3061  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Norman on: December 29, 2012, 04:28:29 PM
His IQ was 170!  I think Einstein was est. ~ a measely 165.

3062  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Way Forward for the American Creed on: December 29, 2012, 04:20:45 PM
Crafty excellent points.  Thanks for some thoughts.  In addition to these thoughts

I would also like to add that we have to "break" the stranglehold the Dem party has with minorities.  By segmenting the market of voters (if we can borrow a marketing phrase) into gays, blacks, latinos, women (particularly single), labor and bribing each group with different big gov agendas they have achieved enough numbers to win.  This we know.  This we can see.  Somehow we (republicans) have to reshape the debate.  We can't keep segmenting the electorate into groups and bribing each one lest we wind up with tyrannical government that controls too many sectors too many voters, whether tax paying or on entitlements, without each and every one of them becoming controlled wards of the "state".

This line of reasoning fits in to my thoughts about attracting more Blacks to the party.  We have to do better than we have at convincing them that they are making a big mistake in being hard core democrats.  The Dems may promise them entitlements but they are also using them to push the overall progressive agenda.  And this agenda cares NOTHING about Blacks.  It is about one world government, loss of US sovereignty, autonomy, less personal freedoms, more government control and dispersing wealth not strictly to them, but around the world.  Some Blacks are fully aware of this.  Just as they are finally achieving more in US society, they are inadvertantly supporting a party that is controlled by socialists who are planning to give it all away (except their own power).

Monica Crowley had a great guest on her radio show today.  This is exactly the theme I was thinking.  Mr. Bryant was head of the NAACP in the late 80's when he was asked to deliver a speech about pro abortion while representing the NAACP.  He then realized he, as a Black man was being used, not for the agenda of Blacks, but for the agenda of the liberals.  Folks, when her refused to give this speech, because he is anti-abortion, there were many calls for him to removed from his postion.  He realized the DEm party is co -opted by the socialists and left it.

Check out this link and see for yourself.  I think he is a great spokeperson for the teaparty.  I think the right has to learn from this:

http://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?p=naacp+bryant+movie&VM=r

(I hope this workss - I cannot link here but typed in  the link)
 
3063  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / ruminating; moved here from the media thread on: December 21, 2012, 07:20:55 PM
Crafty,
You're right (as usual).  I don't want a crash.  It doesn't have to be either tyranny or total anarchy.

Doug,
Your right that there seems to be this subset of voters who either don't vote, or can change their minds about who to vote for on the basis of a single news story or how they feel that day.  These voters are still deciding the elections I guess.

While the Dems seem to win some over with Christmas gifts the Repubs only have ideology and the evidence.  Can that win over enough voters?

Thank God for some like Levin or Limbaugh.  If only we had savvy pols on our side who had *their* gift of gab and charisma.  If Romney only had some of that.  Except for the first debate.....

Gingrich was close.  He had some of it.....

How do we convince people the government is not good to depend on.  We can talk debt, deficit, spending, forever but how do we get people to have the courage and the faith to give up their government assistance??

Some people are worried.  They are not simply moochers (though some certainly are).  They are fighting a losing battle to pay their bills.  They are scared. 

We may be able to win the hearts and minds of some of the middle clas, but how do we convince them to risk their pockbooks to the Republicans?
 

3064  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Media Issues on: December 20, 2012, 11:55:59 AM
"low information voter"

Doug,  I know what you mean.

But I really think it unwise politically to assume that many voters for the Dems are just plain ignorant.

I think most know exactly what they are voting for.  That is entitlements and make the rich pay more.  

I am not so sure Boehner is wrong to cave.  No matter what, the Republicans always get the blame for these budget battles.  Look at Clinton/Gingrich.  Look at Obama/Boehner #1.

As long as the voters perceive other people footing the bill (increase taxes on the rich) they are more than happy to have a deal that does exactly that.  

The Republicans do not have the same jorno*list* and talking heads/points (propaganda machine) and the right spokespeaple to do anything about this.

The risk is we do not have a crash and then the Liberals come out with extreme power.  The benefit of a crash is that may be the only way to stop the liberal/media/union/university politburo planners agenda.


This may be the only way out.  shocked angry cry
3065  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Benghazi, The Petraeus/Susan Rice affair; allegations of military misconduct on: December 19, 2012, 12:25:00 PM
Hillary's concussion is as believable as Obama's tears.  Notice he was wiping the outside corner of his eye repeatedly.

Folks those are hollywood fake tears.  Real tears drip near the nose.
3066  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / If go after guns better go after the freakin media on: December 19, 2012, 12:21:31 PM
I'll never forget doing a psychiatry rotation when we as medical students were invited to listen to an interview of a teenager with diagnosed boderline personality disorder.

It was quite chilling listening to him describing with glee in his eyes a scene from Rambo (I never could sit through the entire movie so I never verifed the scene) when Rambo holds his huge knife blade up to someone's throat and said, " I can kill you anytime I want".

This kid then stated, "I think THAT is the coolest thing I HAVE EVER SEEN!"

I don't want a  ban a guns but if it does happen, damnit, we need to censure Hollywood and tax the shit out of the entertainment hypocrits who deliver huge quantities of endless violence, sadistic, gore and thrive quite well doing so.
3067  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / better than "slave masters" on: December 14, 2012, 07:32:39 PM
the liberal elites are the new Politburo.

3068  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Yes!Right On! Perfect!Couldn't have said it better... on: December 14, 2012, 07:29:24 PM
though I have tried.

The above piece is brilliantly written.

*NeoCom* - perfect!  We need to start this phrase with proper attribution around a better structured conservative version of the "journo-list".

I love the quote of Winston Churchill - an earlier version of the twisting of phrases "trickle down wealth" vs. "trickle up poverty".

Interesting history on FDR.  A true limo-inheritance liberal, if you will.

As for the Brocksters and his communist storm troopers using the word "forward" I am not sure it is either from FDR or Mao.  This word goes much further back in history to European socialist movements.  Nonetheless, the astonishing use of the word, as he points out, could not be more overt as to Obama's real political loyalties and beliefs.

Rahm Emanuel made clear his description of the "opportunity" the near depression of late 2008/early 09 gave the NeoCOms just like the depression gave FDR his opportunity.

Gotta love the Pravda author's pointing out the absurdity of Putin running on Reagna themes while here we have the opposite (the pravda piece I believe was noted on the Forum previously).

And yes as Rep. Ryan pointed out we are on a journey of a dull life all planned out for us by our "beloved" intellectuals at places like Harvard and Yale to the extent that none of us are free.

I add to this that our new slave masters are the liberal elites of our universities who have come up with Obamacare, cap and trade, indoctrination (as GM has smartly expressed as going on for decades) of our children.

3069  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Clinton has affected American Politics like no other in my opinion on: December 12, 2012, 01:44:30 PM
Recently MSNBC's Lawrence ODonnell (duck) claimed that Newt Gingrich had far more lasting effect on our political culture than Reagan Clinton or the two Bushes.

He claims that Gingrich was the tax cutter of the century.  That Gingrich came up with the phrase that tax hikes will reduce jobs and that that has been the Republican mantra since and this phrase more than anything has affected our politics.

I say that Clintonism has affected our politics far more and insidiously and way to the detriment of our culture our politicals, our supposed media watchdogs, our morals, our ethics.

Since Clinton has dumb downed American politics to such an extent there is simply NO lie that is no biggie, No immoral action that is no biggie,
no twisting of the truth to totally absurd levels, that is no biggie, no length to which the libs in the media will go to protect their guy, no bribe that is not biggie, even to the extent that a PResident lied to cover up an embassy attack for fear it would resemble the Terhan attack of 1976 and hurt his election.  If hostages were taken.....
3070  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Gay & Straight on: December 12, 2012, 01:34:00 PM
Hi Doug. 

Lets take it one step further.

The "60's left" has been the biggest proponent of free love, sex outside the marriage is no biggie, premarital sex, partners living together, the celebration of single motherhood, divorce has skyrocketed etc.

Yet we now have the same croud screaming with a media/entertainment blitzkrieg about gay marriage as just another civil rights issue.

Somehow the logic is all twisted and I can't think that it is anything more than for financial reasons.  The morality arguments just don't hold water to me.

As Rush today has elaborately described the Democratic party as basically a coalition of different intersts groups, unions, gays, minorities and women (mostly single mothers) all funneling votes and dollars to them in return for the political might of the entire national Democratic machine it all comes down to money. 

The blacks want reparations, the Latinos want entitlements, the single mothers child support because their low income jobs don't pay for more than one person, the gays want the benefits of marriage (yes I agee it is also to be considered "normal" and just an alternate lifestyle), the unions are merely money laudering operations for their kingpins and the crat party operatives etc.   
3071  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: US Economics, the stock market , and other investment/savings strategies on: December 11, 2012, 06:02:09 PM
Crafty,

ON DMG, a "bull?"

with taxes going up? 
3072  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Gay & Straight on: December 11, 2012, 05:51:48 PM
CNN repeating Justice Scalia's logic that he is entitled to consider gay marriage immoral.  Of course the intent and the implication is that he is prejudiced for this opinion or belief.

Yet CNN repeatedly goes after bigamists who are that way for their religious beliefs.

Why do they selectively choose to market that gay is completely ok and just another lifestyle but bigamy is somehow some sort of crime against humanity.

I hold that legislators are entitled to decide whether either is immoral and if they so choose legal.

The logic is sound to me.
3073  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces on: December 11, 2012, 05:47:05 PM
John D Rockefeller wealth was estimated at 1.4 billion when he died in 1937.  The US GDP was est. at 92 billion.

According to the recent cable series on the "men who built America" he was worth an estimated 600 billion in today's dollars.  Ten times more then todays richest people.

Now that is real money.
3074  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces on: December 09, 2012, 02:33:10 PM
Dowd continued,

and ushers in the age of government tryanny.

As for blacks supporting the first black president it is not about that as much as supporting a Democrat and big transfer of wealth government.

As for women it mostly single young mothers who also want to have wealth transferred to them.

As for Latinos it is not about self deporting - it is the same - transfer of wealth to them.

As for gays a large part of it is financial benefits. 

As for the Gone With the Wind reference with regards to the Republican party being racist - well it is better used to describe America as an idea, a concept, a way of life with limited government and real freedom from tyranny.  You can confiscate only so much, print money out of thin air, borrow from other countries so much.

Gone with the wind is America as Dowd and her ilk move to one world government, void of religion, void of personal freedom, constant management and oversight,
endless nit picking all the same time government grows it's control and power.  Government that is still run by human beings who are just as corrupt as any in the private sector.


3075  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / speaking of George Gilder: new book on: December 03, 2012, 07:05:39 PM
"The Israel Test"  GG was on TV the other day - I don't recall which station.

His new book really speaks highly of Israel.  Ironically he speaks so proudly of Jews, their success, their capatilistic ingenuity, their democracy - ironic because 75% of Jews in America are socialist, communist, phoney, do gooder liberals.   They obviously don't believe in the individual - that is - until they lose what they have achieved.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Israel-Test-George-Gilder/dp/0980076358

3076  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / They just don't go away do they? on: December 03, 2012, 06:53:05 PM
Funny he doesn't mention the 18 million he made from an initial 100,000 investment in global crossing when he got preferred shares, pennies on the multiple dollars the rest of paid.  He is a genius.  Just like Hillary's cattle futures investment talent.   (Of course H Bush made a bundle as did Colin Powell in global crossing - before it turned into "global double crossing" - as GG would later call it - and went bust and the CEO went to jail).  It pays to have connections.  It pays to go into politics:

www.terrymcauliffe.com/a-career-in-business
3077  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Demographics on: November 30, 2012, 06:52:56 PM
In the last few yrs. I noticed less of a revolving door of very short latinos going to and from the OB floor at the hospital in here in town where there is a huge community of illegals.  I am not making it up that every time I got on the elevator we would stop on the obstetrics floor.

I know I am just racist.   rolleyes One is not allowed to state the obvious.

Legal no problem.  Illegal a problem.
3078  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of the left on: November 30, 2012, 06:48:30 PM
It was just reported this evening on CNN she and her husband are worth 20 to 25 million dollars. 

I continue to call for all Democrats liberals and Hollywood types who are in the one percent (including you you jerk Buffet) should get a special tax of 90%.   Esp. he who spent his entire life avoiding taxes and instead of donating his 50 bill fortune to the government to help pay down debt donates it to the Gates foundation.

Hey if our gov. is so good with money that we should continue to pay more in taxes really put YOUR money where your mouth is.
3079  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / thoughts again on my "ex" fellow Jews on: November 19, 2012, 08:43:13 PM
Not all Jews.  Just the liberal ones.  I sproudly separate myself from them.

Objectivist,

The best explanation I can think of as to why Jews did not learn the lesson from the 30's is they still want to believe that government can be "good".

What does George Soros mean when he speaks that government is not a problem when it is "good government"?

In the late 30s Stalin murdered many Jews.  though I haven't finished the book and would otherwise be by no means a scholar on the subjece it appears Stalin was very paranoid of Jews because of their ties to America.  America represented this gigantic ideological competitor that Stalin feared.  And he feared European and Russian Jews many of whom had relatives friends colleagues in the West and particularly in America.  So he murdered many.

While it seems many Jews who came to America embraced the Constitution and the freedoms our founding fathers set up for us.

On the other hand many brought their socialist political philosphies with them from Europe.  Many appear convinced that some less stringent form of Marxism is still viable and preferrable.  It is interesting how so many big monied Hollywood types have type cast McCarthy for his communist censorship attempts of th 40's(?) and 50s yet are very active participants in cencorship of conservative thought in the MSM.  Nothing but their version of political correctness is acceptable.


All I can think of is these Jews still are deluded of the utopia that "good government" can foster.  Stlalin/Lenin were mer abberations.  Commnuism just didn't get a fair chance.  Isn't that what the enlightenede Oliver Stone thinks?

3080  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / "soveriegnty vs submission" John Fonte on: November 19, 2012, 08:23:34 PM
Great Cspan book review presentation on John Fonte's Sovereignty vs. Submission.

I cannot post but suggest all those interested in the one world government movement (it is far more advanced than I knew - more elites carving up the world unbeknowned to the other 7 billion of us) read this.

Elites from liberal think tanks like Brooking Institute, those who really run the EU behind the scenes, ACLU, and apparantly many universities and in particular law schools like Yale,  international lawyers have already decided what is best for the world, for you , and for me. 

America should lead the way before the rise of China while it can.

In other words America should hasten it's own demise according to the do gooders in these groups of elites.

If Americans really understood what this is about would they still vote Brock? 

Many still would.  I am hearing more and more stories about people on the dole actually laughing their heads off about those who work and are paying for all this.

I don't know if we can turn it all around without a total collapse.

You know it used to be that small numbers of people ruled the world.  Reading CDhurchill 's own early biography he writes how several families ruled England for centuries.  It is that way in Latin American countries. 

Globally,  It still is that way.  And the liberals are making it far far worse.


3081  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Libya and on: November 18, 2012, 03:43:25 PM
Peter King on Bob Grant this afternoon.  I can't put up link but one should be able to hear interview by going to BobGrantOnline.

Pete basically comes out and says the WH is covering up the truth, changed the story, and is stonewalling.

Half the country will look the other way.  More than half the media will also.

Even the sex scandal part of Petraues is dumbed down thanks to the Clinton years.

Sex groupies all over the military bases.  Going after officers.  Nah.

I still think that is why most women go into the military.  Because they are gay or they want to meet guys.


3082  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Israel, and its neighbors on: November 18, 2012, 03:31:04 PM
Israel will get vilified...

That is what happened when they went into Lebanon to stop the rocket attacks.

Meantime Iran keeps moving forward with nuclear weapons.
3083  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Libya and on: November 16, 2012, 09:13:05 PM
I like Peter King.  I wish I had an uncle like him.

That said he is never able to close the deal.

The crats never will let him.  Rush is likely right.  the crats will not stop defending their guy and gal til they win.

We saw how dumbing us all down is not a problem when they went to endless means to protect their guy Bill Clinton.

It was "all about sex after all", or "we all lie", but "the electorate has deemed it not a big deal", and few ever "get time for perjury", "she had sex with him but not vice versa",  etc etc...
3084  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / what ? on: November 16, 2012, 08:56:42 PM
"and suggests that a fracking-driven drop in energy prices might facilitate the adoption of policies that could encourage needed innovation, such as the adoption of the carbon tax."

Do we "need" a carbon tax?

Can anyone help me out here?
3085  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Libya and on: November 16, 2012, 08:41:58 PM
Watching the mainstream media continue to cover for Obama.  The same flower kids who made Nixon into some sort of despot yet now look the other way.
My head is spinning.  An echo of complete disbelief/shock/anger is reverberating in my brain at watching this. 

The media is complicit.  I cannot believe it.  Four more of this?
3086  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Government programs & regulations, spending, deficit, and budget process on: November 16, 2012, 08:33:11 PM
Add cap and trade, and the higher taxes coming our way.

If people are grumbling now just wait.   There is only so much money they can confiscated, printed out of this air, loaned borrowed....

3087  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Israel, and its neighbors on: November 16, 2012, 08:27:00 PM
Agreed GM.   Certainly more resolve on the part of the US to defend and fight with Israel might have prevented this flagrant militancy,

but that is all water under the bridge now.
--

The ongoing war is escalating.  Israel might be better off dealing with Hamas and probably Hezbelloh first before attacking Iran nuclear sites.

Maybe they could dampen or weaken the inevitable counterattacks that would come if they went after Iran first.

It clearly remains to be seen if Obama will in fact lift a finger for Israel.  (hopefully not his middle finger).

Whether or not he does will never change my disgust at my fellow Jews for helping this monstrosity into office not once but twice.

The dismantling of our beloved country continues.  The flower children haven't a clue what they are unleashing. And the rest are bribed.  Sorry Bobby J. Romney is right.

3088  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Race, religion, ethnic origin, LGBT, & "discrimination" on: November 16, 2012, 08:11:43 PM
look up slavery reparations on wikipedia and than link to the number 11 footnote.
It is a NYT article from Obama's notorius friend and Harvard professor who was made nationally famous for getting into the roe with the police officer a few years back;  Henry Gates.  Of interest he claims Obama's feelings about reparations are ambigious.  Obama is for it in theory but does not think it practical.

Interestingly he gives us a history lesson about slavery responsibility on BOTH sides of the Atlantic.  He points out that some African Kings and Kingdoms were very complicit in actually providing the blacks to the whites for monetary gain.  4 to 500 thousand Blacks were brought to the US while 12 to 13 million were sold overseas around the world.  The US was really only a small percentage of the total of recipient of blacks sold into slavery.

And members of their own race sadly sold them to the whites.  I was not really aware of the extent of this.  What all men, white black, asian will do to one another for money is part of history of humanity from day one.  Always was, always will be.

I cannot link it here because of network issues.
3089  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Race, religion, ethnic origin, LGBT, & "discrimination" on: November 16, 2012, 08:01:39 PM
I am wondering if once Obama has the opportunity to pack another liberal or two on the Supreme Court will be see slavery reparations law suits move forward.
3090  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: US-Russia on: November 14, 2012, 05:04:14 PM
"is going to offer what...."

I mean with reference to his "off the mike" comment to Medved (that was still on the mike) "just wait until after the election".

WEll I learned first hand how EASY it is to bribe people as witness to what happened to us from the music entertainment industry.

Let this be a lesson to everyone else how easy it is to bribe Americans to take the cash at the same time they give the country away. cry cry
3091  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Talk radio saved my sanity during the Clinton years on: November 14, 2012, 04:59:47 PM
I have no idea how I can keep my sanity now -

One week post election and I am already going crazy every time I have to hear Obama's voice.

His hatred of America, anger, racism just keeps getting worse.

Well Michelle stated she did not like America.  Now, I no longer do.

My liberal Jewish family members better not bring up politics on Thanksgiving. angry angry angry

I am no longer proud to be Jewish.  Sorry.  My brethren have given a lot to the world.  But Obama is absolutely unforgiveable.  Obviously most liberals are not Jewish but Jews have a disproportionate amount of influence in respect to their numbers.  Just like the socialist movements in Europe and including Russian Communism.  Without Jewish political theory, votes, media, financial support there is no doubt this guy would never be President. 

I am not sure if any of the founding fathers of America were Jews.

My Jewish liberal guys and gals  will be sorry for what they did to America.  They jeopordize their own earned privileged position.  They are apparantly too dumb to know it.

Frum sounds all mixed up.

I prefer Krauthammer, Levin, Kaufman, J. AND B. Goldbergs and even Jackie Mason.

In reading Stalin he was personally somewhat neutral about the Jews.  It wasn't a racial or genocidal thing with him.  Yes , he murdered many.  He was just afraid of their ties to the capatalistic country called America and probably Zionism.

Stalin did have a problem with the "intellectual" Trostsky and less "militant" (if you will) Jewish soicalists, but any dislike of Jews seemed to be more from a  paranioa about their politics and threat to his power.  Not that he hated Jews "per se". 

The social Democrats and social capatilists of Europe from the 1800's to early 1900's would be so proud of the liberal Jews of today in the US. sad angry cry cry
3092  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / trivia on: November 14, 2012, 04:39:12 PM
I just read Putin's *grandfather* was a "celebrity" cook.

He was get this, the cook for Stalin, AND Lenin, AND, get this, - Rasputin.

Now of course the destroyer of the US, no not Putin, I mean Obama, is going to offer what to the KGB's Tsar of the oligarchs  (Putin)?
3093  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: November 11, 2012, 11:00:03 AM
noonan seems confused.   

"The great challenge for the Republican Party now is how to change its ways without changing its principles. Its principles are right and have long endured because they're right. But do all the party's problems come down to inadequate marketing, faulty messaging, poor candidates? Might some of it be policies, stands, attitudes?

What the heck is this jumble of crap?

Look it is simple.  We have the country receiving benefits and half that don't.

What policies, stands, and attitudes are faulty?  The Constitution?  What because Romney did not pander and try to buy off Latinos with immigration reform?  Because a few evangelicals made foolish political comments about abortion?

The only message I can think of that does need to be better is not just saying we "care".

Does she think Romney would have won if he didn't say the "47%" (which is absolutely true BTW)?

The only thing the Republicans can do to stick with their principles and to fight for America is somehow convince all thes new faces of color (Asians and Latinos), and the old faces of color (Blacks and some Latinos) that they are making a BIG mistake voting Democrats.   The Democrat party will keep them and the rest of this party poor.  Trickly up poverty as Radio host Savage describes.  Drag down the wealth producers and we all go down.  Now Obama has just said that is good.  He said well all go up or down together.  Obviously many have bought the koolaid.  But more importantly more like the handouts.  We have to somehow convince more people this is doomed to failure.

I don't know if we can accomplish this though.   We will see over the next four years as times get worse and our debt goes up.

I am not looking forward to the pain.  I wish I was independently wealthy as I would otherwise be very up for the fight.  I just don't have any resources.



3094  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Way Forward for the American Creed on: November 11, 2012, 10:43:57 AM
Last post for the day.

People who have read or remember any of my posts would know I used to be more of a "moderate" republican.  But three terms of Bushes prove this is doomed to failure.  We do not need Jeb or now we have another one.

As before H gave us Clinton.  W was worse - we got the racist socialist American hating guy we have.  W tried to close the donut hole,  compassionate conservatism etc.  What did it accomplish?  All it did was give away more benefits and then the left moves *forward* even more.  It does not stop their movement.  It does not make them happy.  It doesn't even slow them down.   WE have to keep the eye on the ball - the END GAME.  What is their endgame
One *world* government
Essentially no religion.  Both concepts are "Medievil"

There should be no USA.  Just one country and the wealth shared and spread around as the central government sees fit.

Of course the libs, including my fellow Jewish intellectuals will say that this is "progress", this is "good, this is "fair".  That those who will be in charge will still be duly elected, and we the people will have the power to remove, replace, change correct the government.   This is fantasy.   We will lose our freedoms, we will be servants of government and the power will be so great we will be helpless.

In any case the point is to watch where THIER endgame is.  Concilialtion will only reuslt in short delays and not win anyone over to our side.

We do have to win with ideas.  Not with more giveaways.  But for now I don't think ideas will/can win.  Not until the country breaks more.  Unfortunately we will have to endure far more pain before the "masses" will be able to see this.  Till then they buy the demogaguery that the rich need to pay more hook line and sinker.  This is what they all say while waiting in line picking up their checks or running to the mailbox to do the same.
3095  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Way Forward for the American Creed on: November 11, 2012, 10:29:59 AM
One last warning.  We read rumors about the increasing and expanding surviellance of our government.  As our world, our lives, our humanity, including all our communications, our interactions,  our believes, thoughts, transactions, buisness and personal become digitalized into the exponential data streams that are collected, catalogued, categorized, and analyzed by our government and sadly but surely private companies our freedoms will diminish.

Knowing full well how it is virtually impossible to protect electronic data,  Indeed no average person can even get any kind of device that can be even reasonalby be protected (don't kiod yourself with the propaganda about enscryption - etc) we are virtually at 100% risk of totaliarism.   Akin to the Okhrana police of the Tsars,  and later the KGB.

We hear rumors that our government is surviellancing "right" wing groups.  Oh really?  Who, Why and who decides what is right wing or a danger.  Obama would consider any teapartier to be a danger.  I am not kidding.  There is an appearance that progressive powers in our government is gearing up to combat what they will perceive is a counter revolution.

Warning made.  Readers beware.  I believe it is happening before us but under the radar.

3096  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / part two on: November 11, 2012, 10:19:52 AM
I don't know how our party can compete with bribery of blocks of citizens.   We can't come back with ok we will give you food stamps, medicaid, welfare, unempolyment, easier disability,  tax (the shrinking share of taxpayers ) more, school loans health care and guess what  WE will throw in "free" season tickets to see your favorite football team - courtesy of the rich.

Hey aren't I entitled to have seats?

I don't know if a really charismatic, persuasive telegenic candidate is enough.

I don't know if the ideals that were the core traditional American values reflected in our constitution are enough.   People want the easy route - the cold hard cash.

The only thing I can see is until this socialist turn crashes of its own weight - until taxes are 79% like in France,  and our debt load cruhes us,  and people will begin to realize this IS worse,  until then, it may be too late.
3097  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Way Forward for the American Creed on: November 11, 2012, 10:12:53 AM
Doug,

As for immigration it may the politically correct thing to do to get it off the table as Krauthammer and apparantly Hannity believe.  I can say with full confidence that this WILL not resolve the Republicans Latino minority status.  First if we do not concede amnesty we can be totallly 100% guaranteed Obama will grant it before his teem expires anyway.

Second if anyone believes that a Repub party backing of amnesty will make most Latinos love our party that all I have to do is remind everyone Reagan granted amnesty to what was it 1.5 or 3 million illegals 25 yrs ago.  And what was his thanks?  20 million more flood the country and 75% of the Asians, Latinos and the rest vote for the opposing party.  We must first learn from history - not repeat it.

Rush Limbaugh is correct here.  It is not about immigration policie.  That is all a smoke screen.  The issue for Latinos who are on the bottom rungs of th economic ladder, many are single mothers,  is the government giveaways.  period.
3098  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: November 07, 2012, 12:24:01 PM
Agreed with the above posts.  All very discouraging.  Bob Grant may be right - it is already too late.

How do we attract Latinos to the repub part without simply trying to out bid the crats with tax payer funded bribes?

How do we deal with illegals?  Latino and non Latino?  We just grant them amnesty?  WE offter them the chance for student loans, food stamps, obamacare?   throw in a "free" cell phone?

American values are clearly no longer held by an increasingly larger and larger number of people. 

Crafty, did you ever start the "direction of the Republican party" thread. 

I really don't know how to compete with cold hard cash - confiscated from taxpayers and given away "free benefits" to a larger and larger electorate.  Nothing competes with cold hard cash for a vote.

We can talk about freedom, liberty, personal responsibility, smaller government, capitalism, everyone has a chance to succeed, etc.  But that will not work too well against a party that stuffs greenbacks (funny money that doesn't exist - 16 and counting trillion in debt) into their constituents pockets. 

We will go from an exceptional country to a second rate stagnant one.

3099  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: November 06, 2012, 10:06:01 AM
 grin

I sure hope he is right.

His reputation is on the line.  Who will ever listen to him again if he is wrong?

Does he say anything about the Senate?

What good is Romney if he is up against a socialist Senate? shocked
3100  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Fascism, liberal fascism, progressivism, socialism: on: October 31, 2012, 12:43:27 PM
I just read a condensed biography of Lenin and am in process of reading montiofore's incredidibly detailed biography of Stalin.  At least the one of his pre 1917 days.

What Lenin unleashed on the planet is unbelievable.   He was not about change in Tsarist Russia.  At the climax of his life when he jumped on to the armored car and screamed to his followers who brought him back from hiding in Finland to Russia,  He exclaimed, "long live the **worldwide** communist revolution" to the cheers of thousands.  It was a remarkable moment in history.  He spent nearly his entire life since around the time his elder brother was executed by the Tsar evolving into the revolutionary who along with Stalin and Trotsky brought a new power to Russia.  Yet from what I read, that as he was becoming more and more feeble before his death in 1924 from a series of strokes , he could see how Stalin was working behind the scenes consolidating power - and he was absolutely aghast at what he saw.  Indeed the biogrpher I read believes he felt Stalin's vision of Communism was unlike what was intended.  Instead of a government ruled by the workers (90% of the people) Russia got one of the most oppressive, ruthless, violent, mafia style governments run by just a relative few with Stalin the supreme terror magnate.  Even Lenin concluded at the end this was far worse then any oppression of the Tsars.  Yet he was too weakened to do anything about it, and Stalin whos genius lay in a combination of street wise thuggery and intellectual ability at organizing, leading and supreme dedication to his brand of communism (with him at the top) was, I can tell you, a 1,000,000,000 times worse then Al Capone.

I hate to say it, but I am no longer really proud to be Jewish.  There are simply too many Jews like Oliver Stone.   Indeed many of the socialists of Europe and Russia were of my faith.  


One of my grandfathers came here to escape the communist revolution I was told.  He was proud of America. In fact eh rarely, so I am told spolke Yiddish or Russian becasue he wanted to be an American  Unlike many immigrants of today.  As for the socialist revolutions in Europe many Jews were part of it.  I guess they had some justification with regards to fighting an opressive Tsarist culture but unlike many who came to America and fell in love with captilism and Democracy too many persist in communist dogma.  I still question if the Axelrods of communist Russia are ancestors to David Axelrods communist parents.

Again as I have noted on this board for years  I say too many Jews including those who would aplogize for Stalin, hold the Republican party in lower regard to the Nazi party.  Stone is one.  David Axelschmuck is another.  Brockman knows this too well.  Shame on fellow Jews for supporting this American hating monstrosity in the WH.

They are not too stupid to think he is not using them - they just don't care.  Anything for the beloved Democarat party.  I am no longer proud of many of my brethren.

I suggest people read Palmer's bio on Lenin and Montiofore's on Stalin.  I am sure George Soro's woudl say that the ideology of communism or its variants are good - what he would call "GOOD GOVERNMENT".  Just that communism got a bad rap by some selfish power hungry psychopaths in Russia.  I say he is wrong - dead wrong - without checks and balances there is NO such thing as "good" government.  Not now or ever in the history of mankind.  Nor will there ever be.  The ONLY difference between what we are seeing now in the US with Obama and his puppet masters and Russia of the 20th century is the lack of violence.  That they are almost to succeed without violence is a sight to behold by me.

Thank God there are some brilliant Jews left like David Horowitz.
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