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3351  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Newt Gingrich on: January 24, 2012, 11:56:55 AM
"If Romney wins as a weak or compromising Republican with a let's-see-how-it-goes agenda and a razor thin majority in the House and Senate, nothing bold will be enacted or repealed. 
Republicans need a clear agenda and a clear up or down vote on it.  Either the electorate will be sold or it won't."

So Doug are you for Newt at this point?


3352  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Newt Gingrich on: January 24, 2012, 10:47:42 AM
BD,
Yes that is what we keep hearing on radio and on cable that "everyone will behind the scenes tell 'you' they fear he will cost them majorities in the houses"

I am not sure what to make of this.  I am somewhat skeptical that would happen.  Yet the polls so far do tend to show he would not beat Bama.   If that changes and starts to score with the independents I would certianly reconsider my support.

While Mitt certainly doesn't blow me away with the brilliant oratory like Newt he is satisfactory and on balance quite attractive overall.  He is a bit of a compromise for me but my conclusion we MUST beat Obama and this country cannot afford chances.

A lame duck Bama is frightening and even more so if Newt would cause the houses to go to the crats.  The pundits keep trying to tell us Bama has/is really been a moderate and all.  We all know he is a radical leftist who governs left of center ONLY because he has to to keep power.  So yeah, the idea of his being a lame duck and unleashed from a re election is very unsettling.
3353  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Real Clear and Obama vs Repubs by name on: January 23, 2012, 12:56:46 PM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/president_obama_vs_republican_candidates.html
3354  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: January 23, 2012, 12:48:42 PM
Well he does seem to have most of the Wash crowd behind him.
I've heard Mitt has his family do a lot of the inside advising.
3355  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: January 23, 2012, 12:22:22 PM
Steyn is ABSOLUTLEY right about Mitt's bland unimaginative lines.

Newt said this after his SC win and I thought what a GREAT line and why can't the other guy come out with this kind of stuff:

Newt warned:  “imagine how radical he would be in a second term.”  I thought YES!  Could we imagine Obama unleashed without having to pretend he is a moderate to get re elected? 

Steyn says:  "And where, among all the dough he’s handing out, is the rapid-response team?"

Another resounding YES!  Remember Clinton's rapid response goons (obnoxiousness aside) hitting the MSM airwaves ALL day and night in response to every single remotely negative insinuation or accusation against the greatest spinner of the last century?

Doug writes:

"Dick Morris had it right.  It is not momentum of Newt or organization of Mitt now, it is the message from here on out, and it better get more focused."

The question is the message going to win over the independents?  Otherwise we have the 40 40 split right vs left who have already drawn their sides and dug in.



3356  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Newt Gingrich on: January 23, 2012, 10:19:48 AM
The conventional wisdom is Newt can beat Obama in any debates.  Suppose he is the nominee and Obama simply ducks the debates?

After all said and done at this time I prefer Romney as the "safer" candidate.  Newt seems just too risky.  On this count I agree with Coulter about Newt.  I don't agree with her assertion he would absolutely lose against Obama.  Yet the "insiders" must be doing studies of this and what they find is telling them independents don't/won't like Newt.

I guess the question is how will Newt do with the independents?  My understanding is Romney is more popular with them.
The conservatives seem convinced that all they need is a great voice in the darkness to convince the independents that their contrasting vision for America is the best choice and all the independents will have some sort of awakening and vote for a Republican.   I am not so sure. 

Surely if Wesbury is right and the stock market is up 20% this year (despite the debt +/- unemployment) independents might very well go for Brock.  He is very intent on buying their votes ("it is all about the middle class").


3357  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: January 23, 2012, 10:17:52 AM
""I see him more like Geo H.W. Bush.

Only meant as an analogy coming into it, not a compliment."

I know.   I just took it the next step by projecting that if Romney who does seem a lot like Bush Sr. would also be roughly the same success/failure as HW.

But who ever knows?

Some are born leaders and have gifts for the politics.   Some are more made.  Romney is a studied (albiet very smart, likable, hard working guy) manager type.   

Newt is blessed with the mind but not quite the right personality or temperment.   

I happen to agree with Geraldo Rivera this moring who points out with shock how the Republicans seem willing to bet the farm on Newt - so far - since he now has a several point lead in Florida.


I still prefer the safer bet - but not etched in stone.  Yeah I want to see Newt debate Obama into the hole but I also don't want to see a crash and burn.
3358  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Newt vs Romney on: January 23, 2012, 10:08:21 AM
The conventional wisdom is Newt can beat Obama in any debates.  Suppose he is the nominee and Obama simply ducks the debates?

After all said and done at this time I prefer Romney as the "safer" candidate.  Newt seems just too risky.  On this count I agree with Coulter about Newt.  I don't agree with her assertion he would absolutely lose against Obama.  Yet the "insiders" must be doing studies of this and what they find is telling them independents don't/won't like Newt.

I guess the question is how will Newt do with the independents?  My understanding is Romney is more popular with them.
The conservatives seem convinced that all they need is a great voice in the darkness to convince the independents that their contrasting vision for America is the best choice and all the independents will have some sort of awakening and vote for a Republican.   I am not so sure.  

Surely if Wesbury is right and the stock market is up 20% this year (despite the debt +/- unemployment) independents might very well go for Brock.  He is very intent on buying their votes ("it is all about the middle class").


3359  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: January 21, 2012, 09:55:14 AM
Doug writes,

"I see him more like Geo H.W. Bush"

Great analogy!  HW had more experience in the public sector being head of CIA, VP, etc but the analogy is right on.

Unfortunately, as Doug pointed out in the past HW was a "great diplomat, but so so President".

So far Romney is exactly the same.  Takes no risks, always the safe bet. Tries to please the most people he can.  He is essentailly a moderate.  And.... just doesn't really connect like a Reagan, JFK, or even a Clinton.

"I think there is a 50% chance he will be a great President"
 
A great President?  Nothing to suggest that will happen and naturally that is why he wins tepid support from the right.  I remember looking at my mother during a Reagan debate and saying to her, "I think this guy could be a GREAT President".  She said I think so too.   So far does anyone think that with Romney?

Of course he could turn out to be one if he wins.  I wonder if anyone thought that of Lincoln when he took office.
3360  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Can Iran torpedo US carrier on: January 19, 2012, 04:10:25 PM
Does Iran have torpedos which could seriosly threatened US ships?  This is old but may be applicable.  Torpedo fast but sub would have to get close and also the missile is not guidable:

Iran's High Speed Torpedo Scam
April 4, 2006: Iran recently announced the successful test of a new, high-speed torpedo, one that could move through the water at speeds of up to 100 meters a second. This is four times as fast as conventional torpedoes, and is thus  nearly "unavoidable" by its intended target.

 
The new Iranian weapon is apparently based upon Russia's VA-111 Shkval (Squall) torpedo. The Shkval is a high-speed supercavitating rocket-propelled torpedo originally designed to be a rapid-reaction defense against US submarines. Basically an underwater missile, the solid-rocket propelled torpedo achieves its speed by producing an envelope of supercavitating bubbles from its nose and skin, which coat the entire weapon surface in a thin layer of gas. This drastically reduces metal-to-water friction. The torpedo leaves the tube at nearly a hundred kilometers an hour, then lights its rocket motor. In tests in the 1990s the Shkval reportedly had an 80 percent kill probability at a range about seven kilometers, although steerability was reportedly limited.

 
The reliability of such rocket-propelled torpedoes remains uncertain. The much publicized loss of the Russian submarine "Kursk" was, according to some sources, likely due to an accidental rocket motor start of such a torpedo while still aboard the boat.  News of this new Iranian weapon was accompanied by the announcement that Iran had also tested a new ballistic missile, the Fajr-3, which employs some stealth technology and carries several warheads.

 
Iran's possession and successful testing of this weapon is troublesome for several reasons. One is Iran's increasing belligerence, especially towards nuclear-armed Israel (which is estimated to have at least 200 nuclear weapons and the missiles and submarines to deliver them) as well as an almost equal antipathy towards the US. Another reason to worry is Russia's apparent intent to continue close economic ties with Iran and the resulting transfer of its technology to this Islamic state run by fanatics and others who are apparently just plain nuts.

 
Iran is believed to have three late-model Kilo class SSKs bought from Russia, eight mini-subs purchased from North Korea, and several older boats of unknown type. The navy has several dozen fast attack boats that might carry the new torpedo but whose capabilities are in other ways modest. Its small fleet of P-3K "Orion" aircraft could conceivably also carry such a torpedo although it is unknown if Iran plans to arm its Orions with the new torpedo. Iran's navy is the smallest of its armed forces.

 
However, there is also the matter of credibility and capability. For decades, Iran has continually boasted of new, Iranian designed and manufactured weapons, only to have the rather more somber truth leak out later. Iran's weapons design capabilities are primitive, but the government has some excellent publicists, who always manage to grab some headlines initially, before anyone can question the basic facts behind these amazing new weapons. Take, for example, the new wonder torpedo. The Russians have not had any success convincing the world's navy that their rocket propelled torpedo is a real threat. For one thing, the attacking sub has to get relatively close (within seven kilometers) to use it. Modern anti-submarine tactics focus on preventing subs from getting that close. For that reason, the Russians themselves tout the VA-111 Shkval torpedo as a specialized anti-submarine weapon for Russian subs being stalked by other subs. This is also questionable, because  Shkval is essentially unguided. You have to turn the firing sub and line it up so that the  Shkval, on leaving the torpedo tube and lighting off its rocket motor, will be aimed directly at the distant target. Do the math, and you will see that there is little margin for error, or chance of success, with such a weapon. If the Iranians bought the  Shkval technology from Russia, they got the bad end of the deal.

 


 
3361  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / cloning dogs on: January 18, 2012, 01:47:39 PM
I lost a beloved pet some months ago.  I am not sure what to think of cloning a pet and agree with Ms. Tarantolo - it is kind of "weird".

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/south-koreas-dog-cloning-industry-raises-ethical-red/story?id=15309415
3362  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Wonder how China knows how to angle missles through carrier defense systems? on: January 18, 2012, 01:09:47 PM
Probably this simple.  Although probably not through simple email or the like.

Must happen all day long:

http://www.mycentraljersey.com/article/20120117/NJNEWS/301170036/Chemist-admits-stealing-sanofi-aventis-secrets?odyssey=mod|mostview
3363  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / I don't think he gets it - playing it too safe on: January 18, 2012, 12:41:58 PM
"I fear that just like George "Passionate Conservatism" Bush, Mitt suffers from what I call "patrician's guilt" and that therefor he will have a strong tendency to crumble and crump under class warfare and race-baiting from the progressives-Dems."

Yes!   He should speak with great pride of his families accomplishments as well as his own and spread hope, challenge and direction on how all of us can achieve great success just like the Romneys.

They achieved an American dream.  This is what it is all about (unless your an MSLSD type).   Show us the way Mitt!

He needs to spin it around.  Do Americans want to be like him or have government welfare pay for their bills?

Who in their right mind wouldn't rather have the chance to be like him?  He is great role model.

Obama's plan is we all be resigned to be a bunch of losers who envy and need a nanny state to feed and protect us.

What a contrasting picture!  If this doesn't resonate with a majority - God help us.
3364  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Romney - flat (without the *tax*) on: January 18, 2012, 11:17:03 AM
This AM I was really dismayed at how Romney handled the msm gotcha thing with his taxes.

This would have been the perfect time for him to  agree that we need tax total *reform* like a flat tax (which he doesn't seem to promote.)

He is playing right into the hands of the *left's* talking points.  As noted he sounds "flat footed".

I only wish Newt had a better temperment.  A real genius with a gift for gab (perhaps without some bluster) would have been a lot better than a technocratic bland detail man who memorizes lists of lines and answers.

I know I sound depressing but I just can't see the sun arising over the horizon that Reagan spoke about.

3365  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Morris on debate on: January 17, 2012, 12:42:38 PM
http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/who-won-the-debate-dick-morris-tv-lunch-alert-8/
3366  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Race, religion, ethnic origin on: January 17, 2012, 11:20:47 AM
Yes there is a sort of dishoner for the dead in this. 

Yet I am fascinated by the history of mankind and it unfortunately the only thing left to study of previous generations are the gravesites.

I don't think it is a morbid curiousity that motivates.  It is a study of us I suppose.

Than again grave robbing for money has gone on forever.   Not good.

Do we really learn anything that helps mankind do better in the future from all this archeology?  I haven't given it much thought or know the answer.

Perhaps if we did that would be some sort of moral justification for this.  Otherwise I think you are right and it is morally wrong.

I guess mummy exibits serve no purpose other than to make tourist dollars.
3367  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The congnitive dissonance of the left on: January 17, 2012, 11:12:56 AM
I didn't know Romney is taking "credit" for using billions in taxpayer money to save them.

 shocked huh
3368  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The congnitive dissonance of the left on: January 17, 2012, 09:44:22 AM
Andrew Sullivan calls himself a conservative  rolleyes.  He gives assigns credit for anything good to the genius of Obama.  Anything bad is result of the incompetence of the right or the delusion of the far left (which of course does not include Obama).  Obama  he concludes is a moderate.   

Some of the highly debatable opinions whcih are stated as though they are fact include:

For example, the bailout of the auto industry was a "great success".   (I ask for whom?)

And of course if Brock is not as far left as some paint him it is not because he couldn't be, it is because he *really is* a moderate left of center.   rolleyes

He totally ignores Brock's own devisive politics.  I could go on but one can see for himself.  OF course the article is under the Newsweek banner.  A few decades ago I used to subscribe to this magazine:   

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/01/15/andrew-sullivan-how-obama-s-long-game-will-outsmart-his-critics.html
3369  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / wikipedia on: January 16, 2012, 02:31:17 PM
***Post-colonial historyThe first direct elections for Africans to the Legislative Council took place in 1957. Despite British hopes of handing power to "moderate" African rivals, it was the Kenya African National Union (KANU) of Jomo Kenyatta that formed a government shortly before Kenya became independent on 12 December 1963, on the same day forming the first Constitution of Kenya.[42] During the same year, the Kenyan army fought the Shifta War against ethnic Somalis who wanted Kenya's Northern Frontier District joined with the Republic of Somalia. The Shifta War officially ended with the signature of the Arusha Memorandum in October, 1967, but relative insecurity prevailed through 1969.[43][44] To discourage further invasions, Kenya signed a defence pact with Ethiopia in 1969, which is still in effect.[45]

 
The former Kenyan President and founder of Kenya, Jomo Kenyatta.On 12 December 1964 the Republic of Kenya was proclaimed, and Jomo Kenyatta became Kenya's first president.[46]***

This doesn't prove to me that there were not independence minded people who were calling the country Kenya before it was official but this is certianly very suspicious to me.

Obviously the whole thing is too pol incorrect to do anything about it.

Most people could simply not conceive of such fraud at such a high level.
3370  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness on: January 16, 2012, 02:27:24 PM
"If Virginia and a few other states were to keep the incumbent President off of their ballot in their state based on insufficient or inconclusive documentation provided, the campaign of the former constitutional law professor would certainly respect that decision based on the decision in the Perry case and their respect for "states rights".  No?"

Short answer, no. wink

It is clear to me that the birth certificate on the WH website is a fraud.  As far as I know the phrase "African American" was not even dreamed of in 1961.  We all know it seemed to evolve at some point within the past few decades (80's?) after negro was changed to more acceptable "black" to later African American.  I am certainly ok with calling a group of people whatever they wish.  No problem there.  As for the Kenya thing I am not sure when that name was dreamed of.  I think it true some call a country a certain name before it really has existed.  Perhaps the father called it that?

I have been thinking this for some time but have elected not to bring it up again since now we would be calling the Brock the L word.  Trump was right in what he did.  He also questioned the WH posted document.   He was destroyed in the media.   Bachmann even suggested the original be verifed by document examiners.  She was mocked.

I think the only ttuth is the mock is on the American people.
3371  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Studying ancient human remains on: January 16, 2012, 02:17:05 PM
I have patient who is from Thailand.   She went on a sightseeing tour of Egypt and when she came back we spoke.   She enjoyed many of the sights very much but would not go to see the "mummies".  She explained as a Buddhist that she thought that such displays desecrated the dead.  This report reminds me of her feelings about this: 

http://news.yahoo.com/researchers-tribes-clash-over-native-bones-160144542.html
3372  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Oldest living senator falls on: January 16, 2012, 10:50:07 AM
One has to stand right up next to it to appreciate how large and massive this tree is.  I remember drving through central Fla. and stopping to go walk up the park to the tree:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senator_(tree)
3373  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Jeffrey Sachs on: January 16, 2012, 09:41:29 AM
The Columbia Univ. liberal who writes books on poverty as well as a lecturer for the far left liberal movement including one world government, wind and solar proponent and basically trashing capitalism and the rest was on Scarborough this AM.  I didn't listen to all of it but he listed CEOs, financiers and doctors as the 1% who are bilking the 99%.  They also had Ezeikel Emmanuel the brother of Rahm and an MD policy liberal on.

I notice he doesn't mention the entertainment industry being part of the 1%, or politicians, or some lawyers.

How about Columbia University professors who make a nice salary and benefits and get plenty of time to write/hawk books:

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/12/where-professors-make-the-most/

There is always justification for some to do well as long as they are politically correct.  All the others are lumped into "bilking the system".   

Frankly as a doctor I WISH I was in the one percent.  Lumping all doctors together is just as bigoted and biased as one can get.  I am sure the Emanuals are broke.  I wonder how much Sachs makes off his books.  I am sure every penny goes to feeding the poor.

Class warfare continues.
3374  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: January 16, 2012, 09:28:37 AM
"All six of his supporters will be very disappointed."

Did you see him after the NH primary.  Standing behind him on one side was his blond daughter and on the other the brunette.  I thought I was watching a cheap reality show.

In any case, his message that "Americans are sick and tired of the partisan bickering" was a total bomb.

No I am not sick of bickering.  What I am sick of IS compromise - get it?
3375  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / voter fraud in Indiana on: January 14, 2012, 01:56:22 PM
From the 2012 election thread:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/01/12/indiana-gop-get-schooled-on-election-fraud/

It looks obvious to me this list of "signatures" was written all by one hand.
I wonder how common this is.  It must be far more common than we think just because, in general, fraud, etc is always more common than is brought to public forbearance, so to speak.

I cannot for the life of me think of any reason on Earth why States should have the right to insist that photo ID be presented at the time people vote do you?

Surely this is only a cynical attempt from Republicans to intimidate and "disenfranchise" voters.   rolleyes wink
3376  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Bureaucracy and Regulations in action: The Fourth Branch of the US Govt. on: January 14, 2012, 01:44:43 PM
Clinton made this an art form.  huh

It is interesting to note the agencies are all in the commerce department.

Of all the agencies this is the one he will "streamline".  rolleyes

I dare not use the "L" word.  wink

3377  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Afpakia: Afghanistan-Pakistan on: January 13, 2012, 01:00:53 PM
"deplorable" seems to be the agreed upon adjective from Panetta, Clinton, etc.

I will be shocked if they are not court martialed.  I don't feel it is as bad as Abu Graib.  Surely this is sad to see but I agree with Crafty - we have seen far worse.  Now if those corpses were innocent farmers or herders, or civilians who were murdered that is a complete different story.

We accept the idea of dead people lying there presumably killed in war but we are to get all bent out of shape when the bodies are desecrated?

Just odd about the rules - politically correctness in war and as in anything else I guess.
3378  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Afpakia: Afghanistan-Pakistan on: January 13, 2012, 11:44:28 AM
I recall it was reported Hillary Clinton laughed out loud when they told her Khadaffi was killed.

I wonder if that was before of after the videos of him being dragged out of drain pipe beaten, stabbed and basically shot in the face at point blank range.

Certainly I don't feel sorry for him but I thought her gloating seemed telling abouther.


3379  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / From the first admentdment thread on the Hossaya decision on: January 12, 2012, 06:01:42 PM
I notice we the tax payers paid for this abuse of power by the obama administration through the outdated and past its time equal employment opportunity commission.

So I just happen to look up the website and I see this mafia like government organization basically extorting money out of Pepsi - why because they do background checks on job applicants and a disproportionate number of Blacks come up with positive criminal records.  So they are fined 13 million.   Where is the outrage from the MSM?   So now an employer cannot do background criminal checks and act upon their findings at their discretion?  I guess so if your the bama/holder mob:

http://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/newsroom/release/1-11-12a.cfm
3380  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / what the frack? Jury still out on: January 10, 2012, 02:21:20 PM
Scientific American article from Nov 11 reviewing evidence for and against contamination of drinking water from fracking chemicals:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=fracking-evolving-truth-natural-gas

3381  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / ms*LSD*; Pat out; Al in on: January 09, 2012, 04:48:19 PM
Pat out because he is hurtful and outdated ideas.  So put Sharpton with his objectivity, sensitivity, and honest analysis in.  I don't know whether to laugh or cry:

http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2012/01/09/pat_buchanan_vs_msnbc_controversial_book_causing_tension.html
3382  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces on: January 09, 2012, 08:08:19 AM
I don't see anything on the Romney webist about technology in general other than maybe extending visas to foreigners with advanced degrees.

OTOH it may not be a bad idea to wait with some plans and ideas lest Brockster use them for his trial balloons.  Clinton was a master (with a MSM allowing him to get away with it) of co-opting the ideas of the opposing party and act like it was all him.

"The era of big government is over".
3383  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / More Mort (who is from Canada) on: January 09, 2012, 07:58:34 AM
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/mzuckerman/articles/2012/01/06/mort-zuckerman-we-must-reignite-americas-can-do-spirit
3384  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Mort Zuckerman on: January 09, 2012, 07:52:51 AM
Gets it:

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/mzuckerman/articles/2011/12/22/as-obama-fails-to-lead-american-dream-is-called-into-question
3385  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Tony Blankley in movie with Humphrey Bogart on: January 09, 2012, 07:41:39 AM
He would have been around 8 yo.  Doesn't appear to have had speaking role.  I remember parts of this movie:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Harder_They_Fall
3386  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces on: January 08, 2012, 10:49:43 AM
"Therefore, the critical questions for America today have to be how we deploy more ultra-high-speed networks and applications in university towns to invent more high-value-added services and manufactured goods and how we educate more workers to do these jobs — the only way we can maintain a middle class.  I just don’t remember any candidate being asked in those really entertaining G.O.P. debates: “How do you think smart cities can become the job engines of the future, and what is your plan to ensure that America has a strategic bandwidth advantage?”

Is Friedman stating it should be a matter of government policy and administration to oversee the bandwidth revolution (if you will).  If you ask me America is in the forefront of this.

Should we have government policy overseeing this?  If so one can then imagine a new Gov. agency.  Or stated another way smaller government, at least in this area is not better. 

OTOH one could argue that the gov. should simply get out of the way.  But I am not clear it ever was.




3387  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / OReilly on his coverage or Pres race on: January 08, 2012, 10:38:20 AM
"Idealogy will not defeat Obama".  This is my impression as well.  I am so sure about some of what he saysbut I do agree with this point.   Idealogy is not the driver - it is about the money.   We have a split group on the right and left who may care more about ideology.  But as always it is the middle - and ideology is obviously not a concern for them.   And they decide the election: 

By Bill O'Reilly

There is no question that this program will play a major role in a presidential race this year. We are by far the most watched news show in prime time, tripling our opposition and many "Factor" viewers watch us because they want straight talk.

We're not rooting for anybody. We're not in the business of promoting any candidate. And we are tough on everybody.

Now, that alienates some Americans who want their candidate to be coddled. Let's take Rick Santorum who was on the program last night. The central point of the interview with the former senator was that he will now become a target because the media will portray him as a right-wing extremist. There is no doubt that will happen.

So I asked Mr. Santorum about his positions and he did answer the questions. But some Santorum supporters didn't like those questions. Laura Luke who lives in Milford, Michigan, "Bill, I was stunned by the hit- and-run interview you did with Santorum. You finally gave him five minutes and spent the time on issues most Americans don't care about. You owe him an apology".

Well, here are the facts Laura. The interview with Senator Santorum lasted seven minutes, 45 seconds. He ran as a social conservative and did well in Iowa based on that. We framed the interview that way and it was fair.

Mary Syren in St. Louis, "Bill, I am furious with you. You interrupted Rick Santorum big time".

Mr. Santorum spoke for 60 percent... 60 percent of the nearly eight minute interview. It's my job to ask as many questions as possible and keep the conversation pithy. No campaign speeches are allowed on "The Factor." You know that.

Doris, I'm withholding her last name, Lewiston, Idaho. "Bill, why is it that you bully all the conservatives and lavish praise on all your liberal friends?"

Doris, that's just lunacy, as Dick Morris said last night, Kool-Aid drinking cuts both ways. The point here is that we have been remarkably consistent for more than 15 years about asking tough questions. But we have also sharpened our focus recently.

All Americans seeking power will be scrutinized on the program, which is why some of them are too frightened to come on. We don't care much about party politics here. We care a lot about looking out for you.

One more letter about Santorum and we'll have more mail later on. This one from Deborah Mullins, Manakin-Sabot, Virginia. "O'Reilly you were a little soft on Mr. Santorum. You let him off on questions about birth control and gay marriage. It was obvious he did not anticipate those questions."

The Senator answered my questions pretty directly, Deborah. I told you that the interview was not a debate over his social positions. It was to allow Rick Santorum to further define what he has said during the campaign in Iowa. He did that. So I did my job.

And isn't it interesting that one viewer thinks I gave Santorum a pass, while another thinks I hammered him. When analyzing this very important presidential race, you have to put emotion aside. I mean I have to put it aside. You can be as emotional as you want. Just don't go crazy like Doris in Idaho.

Let's take President Obama, for example. As you know, I gave him the benefit of the doubt when he first took office and began trying to federalize the economy. I didn't think that was going to work, but I watched the scenario play out because I'm not an economist. Over the past three years, the economy has remained pretty much stagnant, while the national debt at $15 trillion, is now near the bankruptcy level.

So it is fair to say that Mr. Obama's economic strategy has not worked. That's not a personal shot at him. That's just the fact of the matter. Alan Colmes and other devoted liberals will tell you the President needs more time and incredibly should spend even more money to stimulate the economy.

Well, recently the coaches of the St. Louis Rams and the Tampa Bay Bucks were fired because they could not produce winners after three years. Politics is like sports. You have to produce. But Democrat partisans don't care about performance. If you have a "D" after your name, they like you, period. They don't care. Of course, the same holds true for Republican partisans and I'm fine with that on both fronts.

If your political philosophy trumps performance, that's on you. But I live in an entirely different world. The mandate of "The Factor" means we have to be skeptical about all of those seeking power. We have to challenge them and I hope that's why you watch.

Much of our political analysis is based on facts, such as polling we trust from folks like Rasmussen and Gallup. Rasmussen now has Romney at 29 percent among likely Republican voters nationwide; Santorum 21; Gingrich 16, Ron Paul 12.

In the head-to-head matchup, Romney versus Obama, it's tied at 42 percent each. In New Hampshire a Suffolk University tracking poll of likely GOP voters has Romney at 41; Paul 18; Santorum, 8; Gingrich, 7; Huntsman, 7.

Now, there are two debates this weekend, but Saturday is up against an NFL playoff game, so that will be muted and then Sunday's morning is in a debate... Sunday's debate is in the morning I should say. On Monday's "Factor", we'll have the most important parts of those expositions, again, without any favoritism or spin.

Finally let's talk about what this election really means. Let's cut through it. President Obama is no hypocrite. He wants to fundamentally change the country, putting social justice as a top priority. In 2008, he told us he'd do that.

Mr. Obama has been tougher on the terrorists than I thought he'd be. He has largely kept the Bush-Cheney policies in place and the brutally effective drone attacks have angered the ACLU and other far left people. So the President is no phony. He does what he believes is right.

The problem is, the problem, though, is federal spending. Mr. Obama doesn't seem to understand the danger he is courting. He simply does not want to stop the madness despite the massive debt. I mean, these pinheads in Washington are set to approve another $1.5 trillion in debt. That's simply insane.

The truth is, America can't afford national health care right now. We can increase health insurance competition, but we can't pick up the tab for 30 million Americans. No matter what the left believes, no matter how high you raise taxes. And we can no longer afford Medicare and Social Security in the way the programs are set up. They must be modified somewhat for Americans under the age of 40.

The social and financial contract between Washington and we the people has to be changed or the United States will go the way of Greece. As a citizen, I don't understand why President Obama doesn't understand. And that dilemma will be spotlighted on "The Factor" until we do understand.

On the Republican front here is the reality, even though the economy is shaky, 42 percent of Americans would still vote for the President as it stands today. Even with the dangerous debt, even with Solyndra, cap and trade, health care mandate, even with all of that, Mr. Obama remains competitive. He's not Jimmy Carter. The GOP better understand that and the party had better put together a cogent message based upon spending limitations, along with entitlement and tax reform.

Ideology will not... I repeat... will not defeat Barack Obama. His left-wing ideologues match the right-wing folks. If Washington continues to spend more than it takes in, doesn't reform the tax code and entitlements, this nation will go into steep decline. That's what's in play this year 2012. And that's what "The Factor" will be covering in a tough, blunt, no spin way, guaranteed to tee off a lot of folks.

And that's "The Memo."

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3388  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Pathological Science on: January 08, 2012, 09:52:03 AM
Chuck,

I should have posted under the media thread.  I doubt fracking is causing *significant* shifts in tectonic plates.  Yes I agree scientists can evaluate for the possibility of more local release of "stored" up energy though.

But the main thrust of my points is that a MSNBC host presents a theory as though it is accepted fact.  And this is a problem.
And I have a hard time trusting anything that comes out of Columbia University knowing the politics of most of the staff.

3389  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / MSNBC propaganda on: January 07, 2012, 09:14:56 AM
The scientific proof from the left continues:

On Chris Hayes "Up" show this AM he is quoted as saying, "we now KNOW an earthquake in Ohio is caused by fracking".

Right away I know he could not possible "know" this so I look it up online and find a seismologist from Columbia has made a circumstancial link from "nearby" fracking" and a "rare" event in Ohio.  Obviously this is proof.  And a guy from 'Columbia' of course is objective:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-earthquake-ohiotre803022-20120103,0,6455763.story
3390  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iran on: January 07, 2012, 09:02:56 AM
"It's as if China were to blockade the Gulf of Mexico, he said--"an act of war".

To further this ridiculous analogy:

That would be like China stating they want to murder every Japanese and drive them off their islands into the sea.

"This is the kind of thing Ron Paul presumably had in mind when he said Iran may want nuclear weapons in order to get some "respect." But hey, what does Ron Paul know?"

Any idiot can see this is what Iran wants.  While they murder all Jews in Israel.

"Underlying our Iran strategy is the assumption that if we keep ratcheting up the pressure, the regime will eventually say uncle. A problem with this premise is that throughout human history rulers have shown an aversion to being seen by their people as surrendering."
 
Well that has been Brock's assumption all along.  I agree this doesn't work.   Allowing Iran to have nucs as Paul so desires won't work either.  And surely if one sees Iran trying to get "respect" now just wait till they get 20 or 50 or 100 nuclear devices say in several years.

"Ron Paul is no expert on Iran. But now someone who does have relevant credentials has weighed in, and the picture he paints is disturbingly reminiscent of the one Paul painted. It suggests we may be closer to war than most people realize."

Sorry.  If this is Ron Pauls's logic as this writer  suggests than it is no wonder most consider him a nut job.






3391  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: January 06, 2012, 01:17:35 PM
Crafty,
Thanks for the post.  Yes I need cheering up.
After listening to the Repubs cutting themselves to pieces (with the sheer joy of the MSM), and hearing them continuely force losing issues like the "non recess/ recess appt" "scandal" which means *nothing* to independent voters I do need some reassuring talk.

When one listens to the MSM Brock is made out to be some sort of brilliant political titan.   Just like Clinton he lets his hair go whiter for the second 4 year run to appear like the elder statesman.   Yes, I guess we are that stupid.

Unfortunately the "trend of an economic recovery" bought and paid for by funny money is so far on his side.

I agree with Rush Limbaugh that there is NO chance the unemployment numbers will not be manipulated to reflect lower employment going into the election.  There are ways they are doing this like putting as many people into disability.   I am convinced the Federal employees are doing that just like immigration officials were advised to push through immigrant papers.

Shove in as much of the progrressive agenda as possible before the election just in case he does lose.


 
3392  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Ventura IS a war hero on: January 05, 2012, 03:49:19 PM
GM and Doug,

You forgot to mention he served with Schwarzenegger and Weathers and even got injured during that tour of duty.

I am surpirsed he survived his injuries:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093773/
3393  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iran on: January 05, 2012, 03:43:42 PM
Your probably right.

That is why I noted "even more cynical".

But that doesn't deflect that Brock has been their best hope (at least till now) if not going forward.
3394  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iran on: January 05, 2012, 03:01:12 PM
"Anyway, were the report true, who here amongst us would object?"

Not me.  But I can't stand to give brock any credit for this. 

"this is a report from the IRANIANS"

Well to be even more "cynical" the Iranians could be coming out with these reports which suggest Brock is actually going to do the right thing to help him - counter to them loving to keep the guy in power precisely because of his weakness.

Especially with the Repubs on the other side mostly saying they WILL use force to stop them from nucs.
3395  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iran on: January 05, 2012, 12:56:33 PM
With regards to the deployment to Israel I am glad yet dismayed this is clearly wag the tail.

Well this locks up the 80% of the Jewish vote and the money will keep pouring in.

Suddenly the concept of war will no longer be held to be insanity by the MSM.  Not when THEIR guy is now hinting at it.

Remember how the MSM  would try lock stock and barrel to get any Republican to state that military force should be used or even considered to stop Iran from going nuclear.  Every single one would equivicate.

Now Brock may be finally behind the scenes agreeing to this in view of falling Jewish support - just watch the MSM will report it as though it is an ok idea.  Just watch.
3396  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Clinton - again on: January 04, 2012, 01:15:39 PM
I guess this could go under 2012 election thread.  I have ZERO doubt we have seen the last of the Clintons.  Question is now as Brock VP?? or next election cycle?   They still have no one else.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/question-dnc-chair-will-obama-drop-biden-clinton_616019.html
3397  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Iowa on: January 04, 2012, 01:02:06 PM
Decades ago while driving across country towards Colorado and eventually to Phoenix with a friend and his parents I remember stopping at a gas station somewhere in rural Iowa off interstate 80.

My friend's father (remember we are all from NJ) trying to be pleasant with small talk said to the gas attendant,

"You have some really nice country out here!"

The attendant's response was kind of curt, to the point, and corrective,

"yeah, if you like looking at corn!".

I remember stepping out of the car and in every single direction as far as the eye could see were endless rows of corn stalks.

For some reason I never forgot that moment. 

My friend's father did not say another word.

And that is my only memory of Iowa.

3398  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Military Science and Military Issues on: January 04, 2012, 12:45:14 PM
"U.S. defense analysts say the missile is designed to come in at an angle too high for U.S. defenses against sea-skimming cruise missiles and too low for defenses against other ballistic missiles."

Sound like Sun Tzu to me.

3399  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: January 04, 2012, 12:19:43 PM
I wonder what grade Mr Robinson would give to Brock?

Some were obviously mesmorized by him.   Now I think only the 40% die hard crats can even stand to listen to him.

It has got to be much tougher today than in years past.   With all the media we have today.  

I agree Santorum does sound much better.   I am thinking I could vote for him over Romney.  Yet we all know we have to beat Brock and sadly (to me) Romney the detail man still gets press as being the best one to do that because of the independent swing votders.  angry
3400  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iraq on: January 04, 2012, 12:08:48 PM
"Amongst the variables in this regard was the benefit of sitting on Iran's western border should it be necessary to prevent them from going nuclear"

Certainly that would have given us the access better than from Carriers alone - Turkey doesn't seem to want to get involved.

To me it is *extraordinarily* curious who suddenly, suddenly, we are actually hearing some whispering about military force from the military under the Brockster.  Why now?

Indeed it seems more bizzare to hear that now that we did move most of our guys out of neighboring Iraq.

We are certainly not getting the behind the scenes information to understand this.  It certainly has the appearance of wagging the tale from a desperate guy in the WH - no?

Does anyone know what to make of this?

(Please just don't quote Farreed the Zakaria who is just a buddy of Brock doing his utmost best to make the One look like he is still the great one.)
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