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3401  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Climate change on: February 25, 2015, 06:59:28 AM
So what do you think Crafty, Doug, GM, Objectivist and anyone else on the board?

Is climate change man made?   Are the lefties right?

I find it hard to just dismiss them out of hand although turning it into a religion etc and a political excuse to puch for all the centralized control I refuse to accept.
3402  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Nuclear War, WMD issues on: February 25, 2015, 06:55:27 AM
First if anyone actually believes it will take Iran 10 yrs to get a bomb must not have been reading the news the last 10 yrs.
If anyone thinks we will be able to contain them for 10 yrs must also have not been reading anything the last decade.

This reminds me of the handling of our economy.  Keep throwing money at the debt and hope we can keep pushing off the inevitable because something totally unforeseen or unexpected will miraculously come out of know where to save us.

Nonetheless the Dem party will naturally rally round their guy to promote this as some sort of gigantic ingenious breakthrough giving the Nobel Peace Prize winner infinite praise and a earned monument in the pantheon of the world's great leaders.
3403  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / This is becoming a race "riot". But I mean a laughing riot! on: February 23, 2015, 09:10:13 PM
This is getting weirder by the day.  Now he is being sued for discrimination by some Black organization for "looking the other way" when Time Warner and Comcast
allegedly discriminate against Black owned media.   It couldn't be their product doesn't sell.  It is of course because they are black owned.   Of course.  So let me try to get this straight.   We have a street thug shaking down companies to pay him off so he doesn't call them racists.  Yet he himself is a total goes around accusing anything that breathes and is white racist.   Then we have another Black group calling him a discriminator because he doesn't call the companies they claim are discriminating them as racist.

And I would assume because this group now suing him cannot be called racist (his usual offensive move) because they are black.  Are they hiring Black or Jewish lawyers.   cheesy

******Rev. Al Sharpton Being Sued $20 Billion in Racial Discrimination Lawsuit

By Robert Hoggard -
Feb 23, 2015
Allegedly, Rev. Al Sharpton, founder and president of National Action Network, is being sued $20 billion dollars by the National Association of African-American Owned Media, a California limited liability company; and Entertainment Studios Networks, Inc., a California corporation.

Mediate reports, “Comcast and Time Warner Cable were served with a lawsuit from a group of African-American media owners seeking $20 billion — yes, “billion,” with a “b” — for discriminatory practices, and alleges that Al Sharpton and his organizations received big money to look the other way.”

The Hollywood Reporter writes, “Even though the FCC hasn’t yet ruled on the proposed merger between Comcast and Time Warner Cable, one group has already filed a lawsuit claiming at least $20 billion in damages from the way the two giants allegedly discriminate against black-owned media.”

The Hollywood Reporter also reports that “Sharpton objects that the budget for National Action Network is not even $4 million, and as for his MSNBC show, he believes he has the most successful show in the 6 p.m. hour at MSNBC, that ‘the numbers speak for themselves.’ The lawsuit seems to count Sharpton’s reported $750,000 annual salary at MSNBC as part of the $3.8 million and leverages past criticism of the noted civil rights leader that’s rooted in him allegedly turning an eye and forgoing boycotts and protests on corporations upon receiving monetary contributions to the National Action Network.”

Sources tell The Buzz that perhaps Rev. Al plans to share with the press these looming accusations specifically. His show “Politics Nation” airs every evening at 6pm.

The 30 some page lawsuit against Rev. Al, Comcast/Time Warner, N.A.A.C.P, and others which is seeking a trial can be viewed here.*****
3404  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces on: February 23, 2015, 08:53:15 PM
"Well, she is right about one thing: Obama is anti-Semitic"

I agree but,

1)   That wouldn't have been why she would have been ousted.   She is incompetent.

2)   She is not really Jewish.   She is a Democrat.
3405  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces on: February 22, 2015, 08:51:58 AM
Well, I can say I don't recall anyone who headed the DNC who garnered my appreciation or admiration.   It is interesting when we occasionally hear stories of unethical behavior from Democrats when one of more of them are pissed off by another one of their kindred.   

The phony anti-Semitic and anti-woman card:

**********In 2013, Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz “sensed” President Barack Obama might try to replace her as chair — and it led her to set in motion an ethically questionable plan to prevent her ouster, according to a new Politico report.

She “began to line up supporters to suggest the move was both anti-woman and anti-Semitic,” the report states, citing anonymous sources.

Schultz did indeed keep her position as DNC chair and sources who have reportedly spoken with the Democratic congresswoman said she believes no one will remove her before her term ends in 2017.

The Politico report also outlined Schultz’s isolation within the Democratic Party and indicates she has barely even talked to Obama since 2011:

Throughout her time as chair, Wasserman Schultz has turned off colleagues, other top Democrats and current and former staff for a management style that strikes many as self-centered — even for a politician — and often at the expense of the DNC or individual candidates or campaigns. Many top Democrats, including some she counts as supporters and friends, privately complain about her trying to use the DNC as a vehicle for her own personal promotion, and letting her own ambition get in the way of larger goals.******
3406  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Senator Marco Rubio on: February 20, 2015, 09:00:05 PM
One has to have the temperament of iron I suppose.   Can't say the truth to the "left".  Just can't.   They come after you like a brick s..t-house.

Look at the way they are going after Gulliani even though he states the obvious.   Everything he said he backs with facts.   So he can't voice his opinion?

I could almost but not quite let Rubio off with the "I believe [Obama] loves American.  I have a harder time doing that when he essentially calls Gulliani's remark "embarrassing".

We all have our opinions and those are mine.  I am not embarrassed.   I am more embarrassed by the cave ins on the right.   

3407  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Race, religion, ethnic origin, LGBT, "discrimination", & discrimination. on: February 20, 2015, 08:49:47 PM
I wasn't aware of the lynchings either.   It is just annoying to hear this guy using this to make some sort of equivalency point about present day problems.

If we were so rotten to those South of the  border they wouldn't be flocking here by the millions.
3408  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Unethical but illegal? on: February 20, 2015, 07:26:48 PM
I dunno.  Don't pols make these kinds of deals all day long?   So what?  It is not a bribe for money or a job.  While I don't like it I would think this is what Congress and Senators do all the time to get people to vote their way:

*****Ex-Con Dem Pol Says DWS Could Have Had Feds Called On Her

8:04 AM, Feb 20, 2015 • By MICHAEL WARREN

Florida congresswoman and chairman of the Democratic National Committee Debbie Wasserman Schultz might have been the subject of a federal investigation, suggests a former Democratic politician and ex-con. Politico reports that Wasserman Schultz "offered to change her position on medical marijuana if a major Florida donor recanted his withering criticism of her."

The proposal to Orlando trial lawyer John Morgan was straightforward: retract critical statements he made to a reporter in return for Wasserman Schultz publicly backing his cannabis initiative that she had trashed just months earlier. Morgan declined the offer with a sharp email reply sent to a go-between, who described the congresswoman as being in a “tizzy.”

The email exchange, which was forwarded by Morgan to Politico, is certainly embarrassing for the congresswoman. But former Missouri state senator and failed congressional candidate Jeff Smith, a Democrat who was convicted and imprisoned in 2010 for violating federal election laws, says Wasserman Schultz should be thankful the Florida donor didn't bring in federal investigators in to catch the DNC chair in the act:

DWS very lucky Morgan, who clearly despises her, didn't tip the feds, wire up, and meet w/ to propose a deal.
3409  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Senator Marco Rubio on: February 20, 2015, 06:45:20 PM
We make a stand or cave?

We are already dying if you ask me.  What you say Obama does not have a visceral dislike of America?   Why ignore it?
3410  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Middle East: War, Peace, and SNAFU, TARFU, and FUBAR on: February 20, 2015, 06:42:42 PM
Tell me this doesn't remind us of liberals arguments during the Clinton years like "it's all about his private life",  or "what is is?" and the rest.  Liberal legaleze arguments without merit again.   Does it matter what we call our enemies?  Nazis were not Nazis they were guys who had no jobs or bad mothers.   Whatever:
3411  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Race, religion, ethnic origin, LGBT, "discrimination", & discrimination. on: February 20, 2015, 06:24:15 PM
"In today’s charged debate over immigration policy and the growth of the Latino population, the history of anti-Mexican violence reminds us of the costs and consequences of hate."

Wait a minute.  The only slaughter now is Mexican on Mexican due to drugs.   You want to talk about racism in Mexico and Central and South America.   Then how come darker skinned people hold little power in these countries run by the whiter offspring of Conquistadors.

And what does the lynching of a few thousand people over 75 years have to do with people flouting our borders and laws and then sticking it in our faces if we dare make a peep about it?
3412  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Senator Marco Rubio on: February 20, 2015, 06:09:01 PM
"Yes, there are some on the right who will not like that Rubio said Obama loves America, but these were not voters Rubio was going to win"

Well I am on the right and I don't like it.  Isn't obvious he doesn't love America?   

He is using his position and power to push a one world government dream of the left.

Rubio may or may not win my vote.
3413  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / A National Monument on: February 18, 2015, 07:35:48 PM
For a labor strike? Another for Japanese internment camps?  Now the guy is making political statements when designating national monuments?

Gotta love this guy's statements at the end:

"Bill Dvorak, who has owned a rafting and fishing outfitting business in the area along the Arkansas River since 1984, said presidential action is the most practical way to protect people's right to boat, fish, hunt and hike in the area.

"With the current Congress, it seems like nothing gets done," Dvorak said."

As though Republicans have been keeping this guy from hunting fishing and boating.   (Why was this moron even quoted in this?)

*********The White House said Obama will be in his hometown Thursday to announce the Pullman National Monument.

The neighborhood on the city's South Side was built by industrialist George Pullman in the 19th century for workers to manufacture luxurious railroad sleeping cars. The neighborhood was crucial in the African-American labor movement.

Obama also is expected to announce designation of Honouliuli National Monument in Hawaii, the site of an internment camp where Japanese-American citizens and prisoners of war were held during World War II; as well as Browns Canyon National Monument in Colorado, a 21,000-acre site along the Arkansas River popular for whitewater rafting.

The White House said the three new monuments "help tell the story of significant events in American history and protect unique natural resources for the benefit of all Americans."

The three sites will bring to 16 the number of national monuments Obama has created under the 1906 Antiquities Act, which grants presidents broad authority to protect historic or ecologically significant sites without congressional approval.

Some Republicans have complained that Obama has abused his authority, and they renewed their complaints over the new designations, especially the Colorado site, the largest in size by far among the three new monuments.

Obama should "cut it out," said Rep. Ken Buck, R-Colo. "He is not king. No more acting like King Barack."

Rep. Doug Lamborn, R-Colo., said he was outraged by what he called "a top-down, big-government land grab by the president that disenfranchises the concerned citizens in the Browns Canyon region" in central Colorado, about 140 miles southwest of Denver.

Designating Browns Canyon as a national monument could have a devastating effect on grazing rights and water rights in the area, Lamborn said.

The 203-acre Pullman site includes factories and buildings associated with the Pullman Palace Car Company, which was founded in 1867 and employed thousands of workers to construct and provide service on railroad cars. While the company employed a mostly white workforce to manufacture railroad passenger cars, it also hired former slaves to serve as porters, waiters and maids on its iconic sleeping cars.

View gallery FILE - In this Aug. 22, 2014 file photo, the Pullman … FILE - In this Aug. 22, 2014 file photo, the Pullman neighborhood’s ornate brick homes that were bui …The railroad industry — and Pullman in particular — was one of the largest employers of African-Americans in the United States by the early 1900s. Pullman workers played a major role in the rise of the black middle class and, through a historic labor agreement won by the Brotherhood of Sleeping Car Porters, they helped launch the civil rights movement of the 20th Century, the White House said.

The president's visit falls days before the city's mayoral election, where Mayor Rahm Emanuel is seeking a second term. Emanuel is a former White House chief of staff under Obama.

Illinois' two senators, Democrat Richard Durbin and Republican Mark Kirk, hailed the Pullman designation.

"As Chicago's first national park, Pullman's 135 years of civil rights and industrial history will be protected and enjoyed for generations to come," Kirk said in a statement. "This new national park will breathe new economic life into this community, bringing up to 30,000 visitors and more than $40 million each year."

Outdoors and wildlife groups hailed the Browns Canyon designation, which they said would allow future generations to enjoy its spectacular landscapes, world-class whitewater rafting, hunting and fishing.

View gallery FILE - In this Aug. 22, 2014 file photo, Matthew Swalek, … FILE - In this Aug. 22, 2014 file photo, Matthew Swalek, left, and Tyler Belisle hang out on the sto …Sen. Michael Bennet, D-Colo., and Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper asked Obama to designate Browns Canyon as a monument after efforts by Bennet and former Democratic Sen. Mark Udall to protect the land failed in Congress.

"Coloradans have been very clear they wanted this protection, along with assurances that existing uses will be protected. We're glad the administration heard those voices and provided those assurances," Bennet said in a statement.

Bill Dvorak, who has owned a rafting and fishing outfitting business in the area along the Arkansas River since 1984, said presidential action is the most practical way to protect people's right to boat, fish, hunt and hike in the area.

"With the current Congress, it seems like nothing gets done," Dvorak said.

Associated Press writer Colleen Slevin in Denver contributed to this report.*********

3414  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / The woman and the dollar on: February 17, 2015, 08:42:51 PM
The "peace" silver dollar which was minted between 1921 and 1935:

Here is another picture of the model for this coin.   Quite beautiful I might add:
3415  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness on: February 17, 2015, 08:37:08 PM
Sorry but I don't believe Gallup polls:
3416  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / So what do you do for fun? on: February 17, 2015, 07:44:21 PM
Oh, I like to kayak.   Across oceans shocked
3417  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Sounds like a grifter to me on: February 17, 2015, 12:48:52 PM
The crat party is replete with them:
3418  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Health Thread (nutrition, medical, longevity, etc) on: February 17, 2015, 07:38:48 AM
If a person is overweight they should do their best to lose excess weight.  If they are not and their cholesterol is high than a statin drug for those at higher risk.   I rarely advise low cholesterol fat diets otherwise.   Some still will do that.   Exercise is always good.   But I have thought this was long overrated and mostly agree with this "new" recommendation:

New guidelines expected to downplay importance of lowering cholesterol

Posted 8:05 AM, February 17, 2015, by PIX11 Report   

(PIX11/CNN) – In a step that would reverse decades of thinking, a dietary guidelines panel suggests that consumers don’t need to worry about how much cholesterol is in their food.

“Cholesterol is not considered a nutrient of concern for overconsumption,” the 40-page report notes.

What nutrients are of concern, according to the panel? Vitamin D, calcium, potassium, fiber and iron – all of which are severely lacking from Americans’ diets. And sodium and saturated fat, which make up too much of Americans’ diets.

The draft was issued in December. The Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee must send its final recommendation to the Department of Health and Human Services and the U.S. Department of Agriculture before they get the final approval.

The American Heart Association classifies cholesterol in two ways: “good” and “bad.” It says too much of one type of cholesterol or not enough of another can put you at risk for coronary heart disease, heart attack or stroke.

The agency recommends all adults age 20 or older have their cholesterol checked every four to six years.
3419  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / National Enquirer on: February 17, 2015, 07:29:11 AM
I wouldn't dismiss this out of hand.  The NE has been the first to break stories the MSM ignore.   I would be far more surprised to learn he is not messing around than vice a versa.  I know it is his "private life":
3420  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / The peacenik who went after Nixon is now the hawk. on: February 17, 2015, 07:24:04 AM
"he is now in the process of guaranteeing the election of a Hawk to succeed him."

Step right up the first female President:  Hillary.   "Break all those glass ceilings".  The Hawkster in waiting.   wink  Warrior woman.   Don't mess with this Amazon.

And that is partly what the Warren crowd is about.   She is a "war monger".  Poor code stink.  They won't know what to do.   We know they won't vote Republican.
3421  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Anti-semitism & Jews on: February 16, 2015, 10:37:31 AM
It really is 1930's Nazism all over again.  "Never again".   But it IS happening again.

3422  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Israel, and its neighbors on: February 15, 2015, 06:41:18 PM
Unfortunately Israel is not exactly safe for Jews.  Just a few Iranian nukes could wipe out 50% of the World's Jews.  I hate to be a fatalist but.....
3423  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / A first; someone else gets it!!! on: February 15, 2015, 06:38:12 PM

Finally someone besides me who hits the nail on the head.  From Walter Williams.  I keep saying we need efforts at real fairness.   We don't need class envy or victimhood but we do need a full scale up and down evaluation of the playing field.   Government has only added to the unfairness in our country.  Not reduced it.
3424  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Lambs to the slaughter? on: February 15, 2015, 12:18:07 PM
I don't know if Israel is safer than Europe for Jews.   In some ways I feel Jews should stand their ground where they are but that could be easy for me to say sitting here in NJ.

OTOH I sense the sheep moving to Israel for a real slaughter aka Iran and the rest of the Jew hating Muslim world.
3425  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Middle East: War, Peace, and SNAFU, TARFU, and FUBAR on: February 15, 2015, 12:11:35 PM
Still one question.  Who is the scorpion?   The Jihadists or Obama?
3426  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces on: February 15, 2015, 12:06:44 PM
Well if your going to listen to a speech from someone who will proceed to insult some of the Supreme Court Justices, most of Congress, or/and half the population of the United States you may as well get drunk and pass out.  OTOH she probably agrees with him 90% of the time.
3427  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Middle East: War, Peace, and SNAFU, TARFU, and FUBAR on: February 15, 2015, 11:22:44 AM
"I am reminded of the zen parable of the scorpion and the frog"


Would you explain?  I am not familiar with this.
3428  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: February 14, 2015, 11:58:58 PM
I really don't want to be a government employee but this is where it is going.   I no of no significant scientific evidence that sex is a decent form or aerobic exercise unless one is being whipped while running on a treadmill.  This is just patently ridiculous:

*****British Doctors Told to Prescribe Sex as Exercise

by A.B. Sanderson13 Feb 201586

Medical experts have recommended that exercise is something which GPs should be prescribing more often, describing it as “a wonder drug” which is important in the prevention of many common diseases.

The report from the Academy of Medical Royal Colleges says that physical activity plays a significant role in the management of long term conditions but its impact is so positive that it needs to take a greater role in the daily routine of children and adults, the Daily Mail reports.

There is, it says, a direct correlation between the increasingly sedentary lifestyle and conditions such as diabetes and obesity.

And worryingly, over 40 per cent of adults do not reach the minimum recommended level of 30 minutes of moderately intense exercise five times per week.

Regular exercise can prevent dementia, type 2 diabetes, some cancers, depression, heart disease and other common serious conditions – reducing the risk of each by at least 30% – better than many drugs.

But rather than simply telling doctors to send their patients down the gym or pounding the streets in lycra, the authors suggest there are a huge number of ways to raise the heart rate which fit into a person’s schedule.

The report says that fun activities are more likely to be sustained, suggesting many activities can be promoted including dog walking, dancing and even having sex. ‘Basing activities in communities leads to sustained acceptance’ it says, although the report offers no comment on whether this applies to the latter activity.

And it is not just the health of patients which will improve with more adults taking part in community dance classes or training for charity events: The costs of physical inactivity to the UK, the NHS and other public bodies are estimated to be in excess of £15bn.

There are also other costs which are less simple to quantify, including the effects of bad health on families and communities. Lack of physical activity is, is says, acknowledged as one of the top four factors responsible for premature deaths and long term diseases.

Chairman of the Academy of Medical Royal Colleges Professor Dame Sue Bailey sailed:

“This is about people and their doctors believing that the small effort involved is worth it because they are worth it.

“There really is a miracle cure staring us in the face, one which too many patients and doctors have quite simply forgotten about.

“This is about people and their doctors believing that the small effort involved is worth it because they are worth it. This needs to work across the life-course, from children to the very elderly.”

But the advice was not welcomed everywhere, with Joyce Robins of Patient Concern saying, “It’s none of GPs’ business to be talking about patients’ sex lives. I would take amiss at that and I’m sure many others would too.

“This is particularly true as nowadays most patients don’t even know their family doctor.”*****
3429  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iran on: February 14, 2015, 09:06:25 PM
I post here because a main feature of the report was to encourage engagement with Assad in Syria and Iran which may have been the inspiration for Barack's Middle East policy.   If this is his policy than he has not been forthcoming to Americans as such (the most transparent WH guy we ever had), but it would easily explain what he IS doing in the Middle East.  Rather than not having a policy in the Middle East as some claim, it makes more sense that Obama has a policy and is simply not forthcoming about it.
3430  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Middle East: War, Peace, and SNAFU, TARFU, and FUBAR on: February 14, 2015, 08:40:06 PM
"Karma's a bitch for jihadi sympathizers"

Interesting insight into the motives of this young girl.  One wonders what someone like her is doing in a war zone.   I mean really.  What could one young lady do that is going to help anyone?

There is some romantic allure of being a "revolutionary".   I noticed this when reading about Stalin and Lenin in the late 1800s and early 1900s.  They think of themselves as gallant like movie actors fighting evil.

God and earthly devils only know what became of her.  And near her own end she must have wished she stayed in Arizona.   

Perhaps I read too much into this but it is interesting that Obama would send a few ground troops in harms way after HER death and not previous ones.

Taking up the Palestinian chant that they are oppressed by Jews is something he clearly believes in as did she.
3431  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / CC looking out for us, just like all the rest of the Rinos on: February 14, 2015, 10:18:11 AM
"Gayle Kesselman, co-chair of New Jersey Citizens for Immigration Control, said she thought the report would have shown more immigrants coming to New Jersey."

It is an invasion.   It is getting worse.   It is obvious.   Absolutely no enforcement that I am aware of.   Illegals now know this so they have just come out of the closet so to speak.   It is not just the obvious Latins from south of the border, but many thousands from Asia, Africa, Caribbean, Eastern Europe and elsewhere (western Europe and Middle East).  The elites of course tell us this is humane or ultimately good for the economy and therefore good for all Americans.   This is so absurd.  No one represents us. 

*****The Associated Press By  The Associated Press   
on February 01, 2011 at 3:02 PM, updated February 01, 2011 at 3:03 PM

Matt Rainey/The Star-LedgerRamon Gonzalez Solares, of Ewing, sits inside an interview room at the Elizabeth Detention Center, where he had been detained for 6 weeks, in this August 2010 file photo. The illegal immigrant had been in the U.S. since 1985 working in a diner and as a landscaper. He was facing deportation to his native Guatemala.

The number of illegal immigrants in New Jersey has remained largely steady from 2007 to 2010, but a report released Tuesday shows it remains among the states with the highest percentages of undocumented immigrants overall.

An analysis by the Pew Hispanic Center of recent U.S. Census figures shows about 6 percent of New Jersey's population is made up of illegal immigrants.

With an estimated 550,000 illegal immigrants, New Jersey ranks fifth among the states with the highest illegal immigrant populations, behind New York, Florida, Texas. California is the state with the highest illegal immigrant population.

New Jersey had about 600,000 illegal immigrants in 2007, according to the study, but the range of estimates is such that the decline is not enough to be statistically significant.

The Pew study also finds New Jersey third among the states with the largest share of illegal immigrants in the work force, behind Texas and California, with illegal immigrants constituting about 8.6 percent of the Garden State's work force. Immigrants represent a higher percentage of working age people than the general population, the study said.

Levels of illegal immigration nationally also remained largely the same. The study found the number of illegal immigrants living in the U.S. in 2010 was roughly 11.2 million, a number virtually unchanged from 2009, when the level of illegal immigration declined for the first time in two decades.

More than 70 percent of the nation's foreign born are in this country legally, with illegal immigrants making up about 28 percent of the foreign born population, according to the study, which was based on the Census Bureau's Current Population Survey through March 2010.

Both immigrant advocates and those who favor stricter immigration controls said they were surprised at the findings, and said they thought immigrant communities in New Jersey had been growing at a faster pace.

"We have more people coming, and a bigger population because of more children born here," said Flor Gonzalez, who heads the Plainfield-based Latin American Coalition, a service center for immigrants.

"These immigrants are suffering more because of the lack of work, and they're more afraid now to go to the police and complain about crime, and domestic violence is going up," Gonzalez said.

Gayle Kesselman, co-chair of New Jersey Citizens for Immigration Control, said she thought the report would have shown more immigrants coming to New Jersey.

"I'm surprised there isn't more movement from states like Arizona that have stricter laws on immigration, coming to states like New Jersey which are more lax, and don't do anything about illegal immigration," she said.

3432  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / 2nd post on pelosi on: February 14, 2015, 09:51:15 AM
One web site claims she is worth 100 million but I am not sure it's reliability.   I have a feeling she is worth a lot more than 35 million.   With her husbands companies etc..  I am not clear how much of this wealth was made during her tenure in office or as speaker.   Her father and brother were mayors of Baltimore and father also a Congressman:
3433  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / pelosi on: February 14, 2015, 09:42:38 AM
Publically she sounds so flippant and irrationally partisan I wonder how she can produce Democrats who vote in lock step "90%" of the time no matter what.

Some how she must have tremendous skills behind the scenes and certainly no ethics or morals when it comes to shoving the liberal agenda down everyone's throat:

3434  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Gov. Scott Walker on: February 14, 2015, 08:53:50 AM
Doesn't help.   I wonder how this happened.   Did he purposely play loose with the facts or was he misled?

The teachers unions will go wild with this.

But when you compare to Democrat distortions it is beans.
3435  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Corruption (and Treason) on: February 12, 2015, 11:10:40 AM
"There also is the matter of her school buddies scoring a HUGE Obamacare website contract (I want to say well over $100M  shocked shocked shocked ) on the website that never worked."

No biggie.   evil rolleyes angry

Pelosi's husbands company(s) reportedly received one billion in contracts.    angry
3436  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Bureaucracy and Regulations in action: The Fourth Branch of the US Govt. on: February 12, 2015, 11:00:00 AM
Doug writes,

"The rise of the giant bureaucracy is a war against entrepreneurialism and small business, right while the "market" index of entrenched companies keeps showing big gains"

Yes!  And a giant expansion of the middle man growing exponentially to help with navigation and squeeze out savings.  But who shares the savings?  It ain't us.  It is the Wall Street businesses.   

Take for example the Pharmacy Benefits Managers such as Caremark.  To help keep down drug costs.  Sounds good but what was their market cap when they were finally swallowed up but the bigger player - CVS?

I could be wrong but I would like a real objective cost benefit analysis (actuaries?) to explain to us (Joe the plumber public) who is actually seeing the big benefits.
3437  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iran on: February 12, 2015, 10:51:50 AM
Thanks for some clarification Crafty.   I am not yet hearing on the right radio programs or on Fox this theory about Obama's push to make/allow Iran the regional power broker in the Middle East.  But this theory to me fills in the pieces of the puzzle of what Obama is doing in the Middle East quite nicely.  

I don't have time now but will see if I can find Baker et al panel's consensus and post.

The front runner for winning big on the "war" with Isis is most likely Iran.   Isis will be defeated.  If not with the President then with the next.  Who is ready to fill the void?

First contender:

Iran commander Suleimani says IS 'nearing end'AFP 1 hour ago

 . Tehran (AFP) - An influential Iranian general who has reportedly been near the front line against the Islamic State group was quoted Thursday saying the jihadists are "nearing the end of their lives".

No end to Middle East strife without Iran: Rouhani AFP Rights group blasts IS for atrocities Associated Press The Enemy of My Enemy: Islamic State and the Internationalization of the Syrian and Iraqi Civil Wars Part 3 Huffington Post AP Interview: Iraq 'sleeper cells' fight Islamic State group Associated Press Iraq forces 'liberate' Diyala province from IS AFP General Qassem Suleimani, the once rarely seen commander of the powerful Quds Force, has become the public face of Iran's support for the Iraqi and Syrian governments against jihadists.

He has frequently been pictured on social media in Iraq with pro-government forces, including Kurdish fighters and Shiite militia units in battle areas.

"Considering the heavy defeats suffered by Daesh and other terrorist groups in Iraq and Syria, we are certain these groups are nearing the end of their lives," Suleimani was quoted as saying by the semi-official Fars news agency, using an Arabic acronym for IS.

His extremely rare published remarks came in a speech made Wednesday in his home province Kerman to mark the 36th anniversary of Iran's Islamic revolution.

Suleimani also said Tehran's regional influence was growing.

"The arrogants and Zionists have admitted, more than before, to their own weakness and to the Islamic republic's power, following their successive defeats," he said.

Iranian officials often use the term "arrogants" to refer to the United States and other Western powers, while Zionists is used in Tehran to refer to Israel without acknowledging its existence as a state.

IS has seized control of large parts of Syria and Iraq, declaring an Islamic "caliphate" and committing widespread atrocities.

Suleimani reportedly landed in Baghdad hours after IS overran Mosul in June and led the anti-jihadist counter-attack at the head of Iran's deep military involvement in Iraq.

The Quds Force -- the foreign wing of Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards -- conducts sensitive security functions abroad, including intelligence, special operations and political action deemed necessary to protect the Islamic republic.***********

PS:  and they will get nuclear weapons thanks to Obama.  My oft repeated quote from Bolten:  "if you think Iran is a problem now just imagine what they will be like with nuclear weapons."

3438  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / We cannot even get the truth from our health care leaders. on: February 12, 2015, 10:37:07 AM
Regarding PCs post another issue is the misinformation from out health care leaders at the CDC, DHHS etc who purposely ignore the fact that these diseases are brought to the US from people from other countries, by focusing on the small minority here who have not gotten their vaccinations.

Political/and personal financial agendas are rampant in health care.
3439  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Squeezing savings out of dying on: February 12, 2015, 10:32:49 AM
There will be a crush of middle players finding ways to ring money out of this.   Will this save us money?  Short answer:  no.   While I am not totally against this as IMHO there is some reasonable aspects to this, I won't like how it will be "sold" to the public.  It will be sold as "all in the  interests of patient  care".  The real driver is costs. 

Engaging Public Health in End-of-Life Issues: It Is Time to Step Up to the Plate
Jaya K. Rao, MD, MHS, Deputy Editor

The Doctor: For Life and at the End of Life

Ann Intern Med.  2015;162(3):230-231. doi:10.7326/M14-2479

This article was published online first at on 9 December 2014.


In September 2014, the Institute of Medicine (IOM) released its fifth full report on end-of-life issues, “Dying in America: Improving Quality and Honoring Individual Preferences Near the End of Life” (1). Acknowledging the substantial progress made since its first report on these issues was published in 1997 (2), this report identifies recommendations within 5 domains. It is particularly encouraging to see the following recommendation for public education and engagement in the report: “Civic leaders, public health and other governmental agencies ... should engage their constituents and provide fact based information about care of people with advanced serious illness to encourage advance care planning and informed choice based on the needs and values of individuals.” Because I was one of the first authors to articulate a role for public health with respect to end-of-life issues (3) while I was working at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), it is noteworthy that this is the first IOM report to explicitly mention that public health has a role in this arena. By describing the work on end-of-life issues done by the public health community during the past decade, I hope that policymakers, members of the IOM Committee, and health professionals can use and build on these efforts.

Although end-of-life issues have long been considered a societal problem that needs to be improved, the field of public health has only begun to embrace end-of-life as a health concern. Because public health's primary focus is to prevent illness and premature death due to chronic disease and other health threats, public health professionals' reluctance to acknowledge death or its circumstances may be understandable. However—whether we wish to admit it or not—prevention has its limits, and everyone will die eventually. Some public health professionals may also believe that end-of-life issues are a health system problem rather than a priority to be addressed through population health efforts. Public health priorities tend to have at least one of the following characteristics: a large population burden, a major effect in terms of health and other consequences, and the potential for prevention.
In 2002, a literature review that I coauthored (3) clearly showed that end-of-life issues met the criteria of a public health priority. This review was designed as a primer to document the relevance and importance of these issues to the public health community. Given that public health is a key partner of the health care system for many health issues, we proposed that public health could disseminate culturally appropriate materials about advance care planning to the public, thus reaching persons before they were faced with making end-of-life decisions. In addition, we made a case for considering advance care planning as a critical part of chronic disease management programs.
Working closely with the CDC, chronic disease partners in state health departments identified priority end-of-life actions for public health (4). More than 200 public health stakeholders were engaged in this effort and made 103 recommendations for end-of-life activities across a range of topics (for example, public education, professional education, and research and evaluation). Of note, 3 of the 5 initial priorities identified as public health end-of-life actions are consistent with the spirit of the IOM's recommendation to educate and engage the public: to educate the public about hospice and palliative care and the importance of having an advance directive or health care proxy and to collect, analyze, and share data about the end of life through state surveys.

One of these actions has resulted in the development of online information on advance care planning for the public and public health and aging services professionals. For example, the CDC's Healthy Aging Web site ( presents materials for the public on advance care planning, including links to decision aids, state-specific advance directive forms, legal guides, and other end-of-life resources (such as hospice and palliative care organizations and information for caregivers). An online modular training course on advance care planning also was developed for public health and aging services professionals. Since then, more than 1000 health professionals have completed the course (Anderson L. Personal communication.), which is available for free and offers continuing education credits (

In addition to providing educational materials to the public, the 2014 IOM report suggests that government agencies undertake and share behavioral research aimed at assessing public perceptions and actions with respect to end-of-life care. Although national polls in the United States have provided periodic insights into public perspectives on end-of-life issues, ongoing population-based national surveys currently do not include questions about the end of life (5). Recently, end-of-life surveillance items were administered to a nationally representative sample of U.S. consumers to assess factors associated with completion of advance directives. This survey found that 26.3% of respondents had an advance directive and nearly 70.0% had concerns about end-of-life care, such as the costs of care, the pain that they might have, or their comfort and dignity during this period (6). Black or Hispanic persons or those who lack the knowledge to have concerns about the end of life were less likely to have advance directives; these groups may represent potential targets for intervention.

Although a PubMed search for “public health” and “end of life” still yields few articles addressing a population approach to end-of-life issues (most of which are presented here), the broader public health community has recently begun to acknowledge this issue. Several states (5, 7) and communities included palliative care questions as state-added items to the Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System. Other authors have declared end of life as a public health crisis (Cool and the dying as a vulnerable population that should be a concern of public health (9). More recently, the American Public Health Association adopted a policy statement in 2013 on the role of public health in addressing unmet needs in serious illness and at the end of life (10). Such steps represent incremental progress.
In making its recommendations, the IOM appropriately considered the end of life as an issue that requires the involvement of sectors beyond the health care system. Hopefully, public health will heed the IOM's call for action and continue to build on the recommendations of the IOM and key public health stakeholders with respect to end-of-life issues. And, when the IOM writes its next end-of-life report, perhaps public health can influence the next set of recommendations.
3440  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / 2nd post on: February 12, 2015, 09:28:07 AM
Another political move and nothing more.   He has never wanted Congress approval before.  Even gives a SOTU address in front of them insulting them with veto threats repeatedly.  Now he asks for their cover to look strong on terrorism.  And yet 45% will vote for him again and again and again if he could run for another election:
3441  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness on: February 12, 2015, 09:18:51 AM
When something is just cynical politics it doesn't have the same meaning:
3442  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Corruption (and Treason) on: February 12, 2015, 08:59:04 AM
Wasn't she on multiple boards?   I am not aware of her having any special expertise or management or business experience.

3443  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Bureaucracy and Regulations in action: The Fourth Branch of the US Govt. on: February 12, 2015, 08:55:08 AM
"“More intense regulatory and technology requirements have raised the barriers to entry higher than at any other time in modern history,” said Mr. Blankfein. “This is an expensive business to be in, if you don’t have the market share in scale. Consider the numerous business exits that have been announced by our peers as they reassessed their competitive positioning and relative returns.”

The same thing is happening in health care.  Regulations and profound complex technology requirements have done the same thing in health care.
The biggest thrive and everyone else struggles or goes out of business.   The winners are the biggest who can pay reams of people to navigate the mazes that are laid down all over the streets and sidewalks.

Hence big pharmacies, big hospital chains, and the biggest insurers are thriving and taking over the entire health care world.

Any of us seen any savings yet?
3444  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Media Issues on: February 11, 2015, 09:54:57 AM
Good find PC.  Yet true to form Obama blames Americans for it.  Some refused vaccines so it is THEIR fault.

3445  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: February 10, 2015, 07:20:33 PM
" I should have have held out for big odds and dollar menu payoffs on our bet!"

Well, if she wins I won't have an appetite for more than bread and water mixed with lots of Maalox and Compazine.

3446  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: February 10, 2015, 11:04:13 AM

Before we get jubilant over the Crats who are "tired" of Clinton remember it is because she is not publicly liberal enough!  When the time comes for the Hill to go up against the Repubs they will all rally 'round her.

These people are not suddenly becoming Tea Party or Republicans or Independents.  They are hard core Crats. 

Hillary will almost surely be their candidate.  (I am not sure I want anyone else than her because anyone else will only be worse.)

Far more likely her than Bush is ours (GOD forbid!!!)
3447  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Some thoughts on: February 08, 2015, 09:41:17 PM
 A lot to think about.

Seems like a good summary of Obama's Iran folly.  Even Fareed Zakaria is worried, the parties are "miles apart".

If American liberal Jews are anxious about Obama's Iran deal plans they sure are keeping it quiet.   I guess they only have to wait a few more months assuming Hillary will save them and to convince us, Israel, from a nuclear Iran.

They share responsibility for the guy in office now though.

I didn't realize the strategy evolved from a group during Bush's term. 
Ex SoS James Baker who was part of the group is no lover of Israel that is for sure.   I always felt he had a deep dislike of Jews to tell you the truth.


3448  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: February 07, 2015, 09:53:45 PM
See my post under political rants.  I read Doug's post after that post.

"As former Clinton adviser David Geffen said, Everybody in politics lies, but [the Clintons] do it with such ease, it is troubling."

Is it really true that ALL politicians lie?   The only possible lie Reagan may have told is about the Iran Contra mess.   Oliver North said, " he knew".    I admit I lament this if true but truthfully I am not aware of ANY OTHER hint that he ever lied.

Obama lies with even more chutzpah than Clinton.  And more sinisterly.  Yet as long he tows the liberal Democrat line it is no biggie.

There has to be some way to move the ethics and honor and culture back to lying is NOT tolerable.  If we cannot know our leaders are telling us the truth than I don't get how we can have country.

3449  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces on: February 07, 2015, 09:46:09 PM
A lot of outrage over Brain Williams over his lies to embellish himself.

My question:

Why is there not even more outrage over the repeat and serial lying from our politicians?   Why are not they held to a high standard?

The answer ought not to be, "they all do it".

This is not or should not be acceptable.  Yet it seems to be just fine for many.
3450  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Senator Marco Rubio on: February 07, 2015, 01:34:37 PM
Thanks Doug.  I look forward to hearing more from Rubio's idea machine.

I am displeased with the immigration issue.  We cannot cave to this.   
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