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3451  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Fascism, liberal fascism, progressivism, socialism: on: August 26, 2012, 07:06:25 PM
Obama, Axelrod, Jarrett's communist connections.   I was trying to find if David Axelrod who is the offspring of Russian Jewish immigrants and whose mother worked for a radical right newspaper funded by Marshall was in any way related to the marxist/communist Pavel Axelrod who was associated with Vladimir Lenin.   I cannot find if there is an ancestral link or not but this piece has some other interesting communist links between some of the players:
3452  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iraq on: August 19, 2012, 01:58:07 PM
W's embracing of the neocons' concept of spreading democracy around the world is so far a decided failure for America's interests.

This is the thanks we get.

Reminds me of the thanks Jews get for being so worried about the underdogs.

Iraq was in retrospect a mistake.  Afghanistan, I don't know how long we keep this up.

The only good thing is perhaps the right can use this against the Dems 2016 pres candidate - hillary clinton.

Of course there are already trial balloons suggesting it ain't her Sec of State failures as much as Bamster's policies.   She is just doing his bidding and of course she has "privately" had great bouts of disagreements but she has just been the good soldier.

Oh she has had so many disgreements with the chosen "ONE".  If only she was in charge and not subject to carrying out his policies.

The Middle East would be a peaceful lake without a ripple......

So goes the spin from the Clintonites who are just drooling to get her in position for '16.  There is no way she won't run.
3453  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Obama Phenomena on: August 15, 2012, 01:09:19 PM
"Barack Obama the man is more of a mystery to Americans than any president in modern history"

Yes.  It is astounding how the MSM refuse to investigate this guy.

Yet, we already have more digging and publicizing about Ryan in the last few days than we ever had about the brockster.

If not for Fox, and talk radio no one would ever know anything about the present presidents close ties to  marxists, socialists, communists, black racists, anti semites.


Yet the same crowd that likes to place all these revelations into the right wing, crazy conspiracy camp has no problem making the argument that going through Romney's and Ryan's tax records, and every singel detail about everything they ever did or said is relevant and germane.

The hypocracy the double standard is breathtaking to behold.

If the right had the same overt and covert support from the media the election would be a no contest.

I susupect it will wind up being a no contest despite their efforts to buttress their guys.
3454  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: August 14, 2012, 02:34:05 PM
Yes, Doug.  I recall our discussions on this issue.  I was wrong.   There is no compromise with liberals.  There is no end to their demands.  We have gigantic government now.  ****Endless**** entitlements programs, government programs, government organizations.   Yet their prescription is to tax and spend and expand this even more!

We cannot compromise.  We already have.  There simply is no compromise.  Stop it now or we are done.

In medicine every single thing I do is or will be scrutinized at *industrial* assembly line quality control levels.  Every single thing I say, I write, I do, every decision, every move, everything I don't do will collected sent stored and analyzed by people who will credit, discredit, reward, punish, pay for, refuse to pay for, make public, correct, make me redo, question, critique, "approve", not "approve", warn, and more.
If not enough, one false move, one mistake, I can be sued for years.

I am used to this in medicine.  It gets sworse not better everyday. But,  

I don't want this for the rest of my life's endeavors.  I don't want my car black boxed. I don't want my electric bill evaluated for the wrong usage, my water bill scrutinized for the amount of flushes, or my grocery bill scrutinized and taxed because obama doesn't approve of my  food choices.  

Despite all this I work several months a year to have it confiscated and doled out to the predominantly Democratic parties pet constituencies who of course vote them right back in office.

The Democrat party comeback is,
 I should pay more taxes, shut the fuck up, because I might be accused of being a biggoted white boy, who had the God damn nerve to have had the ood fortunebrought up in a good (we were confortable but not rich)  and nurturing family.

Am I angry, your damn right I am.

I have had enough!
3455  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces on: August 14, 2012, 02:15:28 PM
Well, we sill see if peaceful elections are the antedote to the dangling of taxpayer monies to bribe ever increasing numbers and groups of voters, expanding their power, to the ong term detriment of this country as we have always known it.

Many are questioning if this is unstoppable peacefully.

We will know in November.

I am optimistic.
3456  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: August 14, 2012, 01:48:22 PM
"I think Obama inherited many of the current
problems from Bush"

The reason Bush was such a big spender was precisely because, he, Rove, and the "compassionate conservative" crowd were trying to keep up with the Democrats in appearing kind, "compassionate", for the "po", for the struggling masses if you will.

It was a spending spree to keep up with the tax and spend Democrats who are relentlessly willing without end to find reasons and ways to tax more and spend more essentially buying off more and more voters.  The Bush crowd is clearly fearful that if they don't do something to beat the Crats at their own game the crats will continue to buy off more and more voters as they are successfully doing.

Some years ago I agreed with this supposed compromising strategy.  Now I realize it was all misguided.  We cannot have two parties competing to spend more taxpayer money to pay for more and more entitlements.

The country is going over a cliff.   And the left will never be satisfied till  America is driven down to a status like all the other countries.  Liberals appear hell bent on the concept that America's wealth and those of the white race must be shared throughout the world.  And one central government will control it all.

So Bush was wrong as are all the Bushes.

Romeny choice in Ryan was sound.  We make a stand now or we can kiss the country goodbye.  The stricter conservatives are right in my view.

JDN, afrter reading your posts for years, I don't recall you ever spending any serious time bashing Democrats.  You always find ways to bash Republicans.

Why don't you just say tyou are a Democrt and of course you will vote for Obama.  Just get it over with.  Why try to kid us aftera ll these years.  You certainly want big brother entitlements.  Your posts for years reflect this.
3457  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Romney on: August 11, 2012, 03:20:58 PM
"In essence, Obama's entire campaign to date has been aimed at taking economic doubts and worry -- which Romney has tried to pin on Obama -- and increasing them by portraying the GOP nominee as a predatory capitalist indifferent to middle class suffering. They now believe Ryan gives them a contemporary policy toehold in Washington to take that argument from the distant past (Bain Capital) and make it a cutting issue in Romney and Ryan's present-day campaign."

Every time I think it through it all comes down to whether there are more people who are tired of supporting the entitlement groups then there are in those groups.

Are there more people who are afraid that Republicanns will take away their benefits, medicare, medicaid, welfare, unempolyment, disability,student aids, housing loans, quotas, etc. vs those who are tired of working like dogs paying for the Demcorat party taxes, regulations, control, etc?

To me this is the question.  It all boils down to this.  Ideology, future direction of America, freedom, capatilism, tyranny, are certainly all part of it.  Yet in the end we are all going to vote our pocket books. So are there more of them (dependents) or us?

Just .... as Mark Levin recently said.


I always knew it could happen here but I guess I didn't think it would.  Like we Jews always said about the holocaust, yes it can happen again.  Same for marxism.

Progressives just keep moving *forward* - to one world government, secular with total central control of all of us.
 Every time I hear liberals use that word this IS what is meant.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is either in denial or I guess oblivius, not paying careful attention, or dumb.
3458  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: August 07, 2012, 09:06:57 PM
***"Obama's usual campaign method ... has been to pry into the private records of his opponents. ... One month before the 2004 Democratic primary for the U.S. Senate, Obama was down in the polls, about to lose to Blair Hull, a multimillionaire securities trader. But then the Chicago Tribune leaked the claim that Hull's second ex-wife, Brenda Sexton, had sought an order of protection against him during their 1998 divorce proceedings. ... After having held a substantial lead just a month before the primary, Hull's campaign collapsed with the chatter about his divorce. ... As luck would have it, Obama's opponent in the general election had also been divorced! ... [Jack Ryan] ... made hundreds of millions of dollars as a partner at Goldman Sachs, and then, in his early 40s, left investment banking to teach at an inner city school on the South Side of Chicago. Ryan would have walloped Obama in the Senate race. But at the request of -- again -- the Chicago Tribune, California Judge Robert Schnider unsealed the custody papers in Ryan's divorce five years earlier.... [R]yan dropped out of the race for the horror of (allegedly) propositioning his own wife and then taking 'no' for an answer. ... And that's how Obama became a U.S. senator. ... Obama's team delved into Sarah Palin's marriage and spread rumors of John McCain's alleged affair in 2008 and they smeared Herman Cain in 2011 with hazy sexual harassment allegations all emanating from David Axelrod's pals in Chicago. It's almost like a serial killer's signature.***

Agreed!  That is why it is very likely Alexrod is either the leaker of responsible for another person leaking military security issues from the WH to the NYT.
I never thought I would live to see it but these guys are even sleezier than the Clinton team - and they are sleezy.
3459  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: August 04, 2012, 01:19:58 PM
"At least we all agree that he can't fix it."

Recenlty Rush and Levin have both admitted the obvious.

There are increasing numbers of people here who want someone else to pay for them.

Either one believes in traditional America, with capatilism free, enterprise, limited government, competition, or one doesn't care and they are on the dole.

Ideology is the issue but ideology alone won't win.

Most don't care about ideology.   Most care about their pocketbooks.

So what am I saying?  It is about ideology and yet it isn't.

No, what I am saying it IS absolutely about ideology.  But Mitt is going to have to convince enough voters that the conservative ideology is the best for them, all of us, and America.   He cannot speak in just "jobs",  "unemployment", or "big government", or "statism", or "entitlements".

He has to speak about all of it and tie it all together.   It doesn't appear that calling Obama a socialist is enough.  Unfortunately, there are ever increasing numbers of poeple who basically want socialism.  Free" health care, "free" educatuion (why never "free" legal care?).  The crats are doing everything they can to expand their numbers with bribery using taxpayer money.

As Levin has FINALLY pointed out we can only hope there are  more of us then them.  I couldn't agree more and have felt this way for years and am glad the talking heads are finally saying it.

For they speak to the choir.  The 40% firmly in the Democrat party camp are always going to want taxpaid beneftis -always - that is how they think.

I think the talking heads are now struggling to come up with a Romney theme that will get past the banner phrases and give enough voters the confidence his ideology is best for their pocketbooks.  Just my take.
3460  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: July 21, 2012, 06:51:42 PM
Abe Lincoln:

"and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."


"and that people of the government, by the government, for the government, shall not perish from the earth because of the government".


"Your no Lincoln!"

3461  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / How can Repubs get minority votes? on: July 21, 2012, 06:39:07 PM
Without pandering?  Without trying to outspend Democrats on taxpayer funded benefits (entitlements)?

Fascinating discussion by Dick.   I wondered how in the world the Blacks shifted from republican to democrat.

I was disappointed he doesn't offer any way to bring them back.  Are they lost forever?

How can we get Blacks back to the Repub party?  Without pandering?  Without government (taxpayer) handouts?

One thought I have had and expressed previously is to emphasize in no uncertain terms that the Democrats are giving away all US citizens freedoms - including those of color, latino, and everyone else here legally.  Just now when Blacks have been able to succeed in US society they risk losing their freedoms too.

Herman Cain basically said this when he said "he got off the Democrat Party plantation long ago".

Unfortunately Blacks either do not think they can make it on their own without big daddy government redistributing wealth or perhaps it is more simply  a reparations or get even thing.  I don't know.

I really think Romney failed to address how the Repub party means freedom for all and the Dem party means Blacks will not share in the fredeom because they are voting for a party that is eager to give it away to buy votes.  Look at the long term.  Not just the next government paycheck.

And so how do we court Latinos?  Simply say we are all for pardons of illegals?  Hey guys come on over?   They aren't all going to start voting Republican for some ideology.

They want the government to pay them entitlements same as the rest of the Demcocrats, white , chinese, blacks etc.  Except for Cubans in Florida (not NYC) they didn't all start voting Repub just because of Reagan's pardon.
3462  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Decline, Fall, and Resurrection of America on: July 17, 2012, 05:07:01 PM
there is 14 pages of shale gas writings in the past Economist mag.

the contamination of ground water, earthquakes, use of water, issues seem overblown but that guy at Columbia is probably right that it is not unreasonable for the oil/gas industry to spend a reltively small amount to monitor and study the situation rather than go in full bore (pun intended) and then risk (albiet small) a very big problem when it becomes obvious.

OTOH, I wonder if he wonders they should pick HIM to advise such proposed monitoring with 'appropriate' enumeration.

3463  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: July 17, 2012, 04:59:06 PM
"the sitting Treasury Secretary's tax evasion"

don't forget Charles Rangel.

I agree with
Mark Levin.  Mitt does not need to give the libs any more data they can manipulate to their spin.  Give *no* more tax records.

"Independents" or undecided's won't care. Libs have already made up their minds.

Bill Kristol and Haley Barber and both shcultzes should release their taxes first.
3464  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces on: July 14, 2012, 01:17:13 PM
"Some conservatives have cheered that part of Justice Roberts's decision that limits Congress's Commerce Clause power. But an unlimited taxing power is equally dangerous to constitutional government."

Absolutely.  Mark Levin is correct in saying Roberts has done grave nearly irreversible damage to our republic.  The democrat party, liberal lawyer, union, minority interest cabal is subverting justice in our system to maintain power for themselves.

Our system is in trouble as long as we have half the population voting money for themselves out of the treasury and doing so with complicit polticians.

Rush Limbaugh has finally come and highlighted as a message to Romney.   It ain't about jobs.   It ain't about the middle class.  Both of these are relevent but are only subtle pretetexts to the real issue.

It is the gigantic entitlement state that keeps expanding while those who pay for it are being squeezed.

This is the "issue" of the age for the US.
That is the issue

3465  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Unions on: June 29, 2012, 10:11:54 AM
Over the decades there have been calls for physicians to unionize but I am not aware if it has happened anywhere.

Naturally it was only physicians who would have been for such a thing.   We are not monolithic.   We are really a hodgepoge of different groups with different situations.

Older vs younger, academic vs nonacademic, group vs individual, specialties vs primary, surgeons vs nonsurgeons, employed vs in private practice etc.  So the concept of doctors unifying was really a mirage anyway.

But now reading the above post and seeing on drudge that one congresswoman hinted that doctors might unionize - all now that this might strengthen the union/democrat party cabal - well - what can I say?

Again Obama calls for us to move "forward".  The use of that word is again a reminder of what this has all been about.
As long as the "New" Democrat party can continue to rob some taxpayer groups and pay other who pay little taxes I don't know if this can be stopped. 

3466  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Issues in the American Creed (Constitutional Law and related matters) on: June 29, 2012, 09:54:04 AM
Apparantly the law can be repealed with only 51 votes in the Senate.   Therefore repeal is not simply a pipe dream.

3467  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / will piece on: June 29, 2012, 09:06:32 AM
3468  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / George Will: decision a conservative victory on: June 28, 2012, 08:22:06 PM

I used to like to read George's stuff but this is another example of how he seems to have learned to walk ass first:
3469  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Mark Levin: Roberts wrong in interpretation of Constitutional tax issues on: June 28, 2012, 08:15:13 PM
3470  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Issues in the American Creed (Constitutional Law and related matters) on: June 28, 2012, 07:50:10 PM
"Judging by this case, there's no limit to what the federal government can order us to do as long as they attach a monetary penalty for disobedience"

*And* if the Democrat party bribes just enough voters with that tax revenue to maintain power - the sky is the limit.

Could the framers have imagined this?
3471  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: June 27, 2012, 02:03:55 PM
A safer version of the desfenfluramine drug approved today - arena pharm - should be marginally helpful
So will  vivus pharm combination of topomax/phentermine recommended for approval.

The latter one pisses me off.  Around two weeks before it was rec. for approval I read it had up to a 13% weight loss success which is more than any other.  I thought I should buy in but was too afraid - every single pharm company I ever bought into was a loss for me.  Of course, this time, two weeks later, the price went from 10 or 11 to 22 overnight.

3472  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Gay pride; no not NYC; the pentagon on: June 26, 2012, 02:01:12 PM
Probably the thought of rape and pillage by divisions of gays would frighten the Iranians more than airstrikes.  I am not against gays living their lives left alone but this is out of control:

****Pentagon To Hold First-Ever Gay Pride Event Tuesday
By Elizabeth Flock

June 25, 2012 RSS Feed Print 
In this July 16, 2011 photo, two women, both active duty sailors in the Navy who gave their names as Nikki, left, and Lisa, kiss as they march in the Gay Pride Parade in San Diego.
Less than a year after the Defense Department's "Don't ask, don't tell" (DADT) policy toward gay and lesbian service members was repealed, the Pentagon says it will hold its first-ever Gay Pride event Tuesday.

The event is likely to be a more toned-down version of the Gay Pride parades that take place every June in cities around the world—sans the flags, wigs, beads and boas. (Though some have suggested rainbow camo or berets.)

Instead, the Pentagon has planned a somber-sounding panel discussion entitled "The Value of Open Service and Diversity," according to a Defense Department press release.

The event will also have a keynote speaker: the Pentagon's top lawyer Jeh Johnson, who co-chaired the 2010 study on how a DADT repeal might affect combat operations, housing and other issues, according to the Washington Post.

Johnson, along with co-chair U.S. Army Gen. Carter Ham, concluded in the study: "While a repeal of 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' will likely, in the short term, bring about some limited and isolated disruption to unit cohesion and retention, we do not believe this disruption will be widespread or long-lasting."

Several months after the report, in December 2010, DADT was repealed.

As Gay Pride events took place across the country this month, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta issued his own Pride Month message to gays and lesbians in the military, saying he was "very proud of how we implemented repeal" of DADT. "Diversity is one of our greatest strengths," he said.
Elizabeth Flock is a staff writer for U.S. News & World Report. You can contact her at or follow her on Twitter and Facebook.
3473  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / suspected leaker is Biden's lawyer's brother on: June 26, 2012, 01:14:18 PM
ZERO chance of special prosecuter with this corrupt WH.  It is sad but expected not one Dem Senator calling for the sp. pros.
3474  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Jimmy Carter on: June 26, 2012, 10:26:38 AM
I am not a fan of Jimmy Carter but at least he is consistent.   This is nothing less than REMARKABLE that a Democrat would come out and say this in an election year.   Not a peep from the rest of the left wing media to my knowledge.   If this were W doing the drones they would be screaming bloody **murder** like they did over much less stuff - water boarding three mass murderers!

****......Jimmy Carter Accuses U.S. of 'Widespread Abuse of Human Rights'
By Amy Bingham | ABC News – 23 hrs ago...
...Jimmy Carter Accuses U.S. of 'Widespread …
A former U.S. president is accusing the current president of sanctioning the "widespread abuse of human rights" by authorizing drone strikes to kill suspected terrorists.

Jimmy Carter, America's 39 th president, denounced the Obama administration for "clearly violating" 10 of the 30 articles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, writing in a New York Times op-ed on Monday that the "United States is abandoning its role as the global champion of human rights."

"Instead of making the world safer, America's violation of international human rights abets our enemies and alienates our friends," Carter wrote.

While the total number of attacks from unmanned aircraft, or drones, and the resulting casualties are murky, the New America Foundation estimates that in Pakistan alone 265 drone strikes have been executed since January 2009 . Those strikes have killed at least 1,488 people, at least 1,343 of them considered militants, the foundation estimates based on news reports and other sources.

In addition to the drone strikes, Carter criticized the current president for keeping the Guantanamo Bay detention center open, where prisoners "have been tortured by waterboarding more than 100 times or intimidated with semiautomatic weapons, power drills or threats to sexually assault their mothers."

The former president blasted the government for allowing "unprecedented violations of our rights to privacy through warrantless wiretapping and government mining of our electronic communications."

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He also condemned recent legislation that gives the president the power to detain suspected terrorists indefinitely, although a federal judge blocked the law from taking effect for any suspects not affiliated with the September 11 terrorist attacks.

"This law violates the right to freedom of expression and to be presumed innocent until proved guilty, two other rights enshrined in the declaration," Carter said.

While Carter never mentioned Obama by name, he called out "our government" and "the highest authorities in Washington," and urged "concerned citizens" to "persuade Washington to reverse course and regain moral leadership."

Get more pure politics at ABC****
3475  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Shwartzenegger has bigger muscles on: June 25, 2012, 09:28:28 AM
But Romney had lower taxes.   I thought this amusing.  Romney sounded good here with a Reagan type quote:
3476  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / hover car on: June 23, 2012, 11:46:37 AM
3477  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Obama: first "manufactured" President on: June 23, 2012, 11:20:28 AM
Not mentioned in Mark Steyn's piece but along his lines of thinking is Elizabeth Warren's phoney and knowing claim to be part Cheriokee.   Claiming membership into a "victim group" has become rewarding monetariily and career wise in the new "post" racial, post gender America.

*** June 22, 2012 Updated: June 23, 2012 7:58 a.m.
Text:    Next Article » Mark Steyn: Obama the first Invented-American president 

Syndicated columnist
Courtesy of David Maraniss' new book, we now know that yet another key prop of Barack Obama's identity is false: His Kenyan grandfather was not brutally tortured or even non-brutally detained by his British colonial masters. The composite gram'pa joins an ever-swelling cast of characters from Barack's "memoir" who, to put it discreetly, differ somewhat in reality from their bit parts in the grand Obama narrative. The best friend at school portrayed in Obama's autobiography as "a symbol of young blackness" was, in fact, half Japanese, and not a close friend. The white girlfriend he took to an off-Broadway play that prompted an angry post-show exchange about race never saw the play, dated Obama in an entirely different time zone, and had no such world-historically significant conversation with him. His Indonesian step-grandfather, supposedly killed by Dutch soldiers during his people's valiant struggle against colonialism, met his actual demise when he "fell off a chair at his home while trying to hang drapes."
David Maraniss is no right-winger, and can't understand why boorish nonliterary types have seized on his book as evidence that the president of the United States is a Grade A phony. "It is a legitimate question about where the line is in memoir," he told Soledad O'Brien on CNN. My Oxford dictionary defines "memoir" as "an historical account or biography written from personal knowledge." And if Obama doesn't have "personal knowledge" of his tortured grandfather, war-hero step-grandfather and racially obsessed theater-buff girlfriend, who does? But in recent years, the Left has turned the fake memoir into one of the most prestigious literary genres: Oprah's Book Club recommended James Frey's "A Million Little Pieces," hailed by Bret Easton Ellis as a "heartbreaking memoir" of "poetic honesty," but subsequently revealed to be heavy on the "poetic" and rather light on the "honesty." The "heartbreaking memoir" of a drug-addled street punk who got tossed in the slammer after brawling with cops while high on crack with his narco-hooker girlfriend proved to be the work of some suburban Pat Boone type with a couple of parking tickets. (I exaggerate, but not as much as he did.

File: This undated file photo released by Obama for America shows President Barack Obama as a young boy, and his father, also named Barack Obama.
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Oprah was also smitten by "The Education of Little Tree," the heartwarmingly honest memoir of a Cherokee childhood which turned out to be concocted by a former Klansman whose only previous notable literary work was George Wallace's "Segregation Forever" speech. "Fragments: Memories of a Wartime Childhood" is a heartbreakingly honest, poetically searing, searingly painful, painfully honest, etc., account of Binjamin Wilkomirski's unimaginably horrific boyhood in the Jewish ghetto of Riga and the Nazi concentration camp at Auschwitz. After his memoir won America's respected National Jewish Book Award, Mr. Wilkomirski was inevitably discovered to have been born in Switzerland and spent the war in a prosperous neighborhood of Zurich being raised by a nice middle-class couple. He certainly had a deprived childhood, at least from the point of view of a literary agent pitching a memoir to a major publisher. But the "unimaginable" horror of his book turned out to be all too easily imagined. Fake memoirs have won the Nobel Peace Prize and are taught at Ivy League schools to the scions of middle-class families who take on six-figure debts for the privilege ("I, Rigoberta Menchu"). They're handed out by the Pentagon to senior officers embarking on a tour of Afghanistan (Greg Mortenson's "Three Cups of Tea") on the entirely reasonable grounds that a complete fantasy could hardly be less credible than current NATO strategy.
In such a world, it was surely only a matter of time before a fake memoirist got elected as president of the United States. Indeed, the aforementioned Rigoberta Menchu ran as a candidate in the 2007 and 2011 presidential elections in Guatemala, although she got knocked out in the first round – Guatemalans evidently being disinclined to elect someone to the highest office in the land with no accomplishment whatsoever apart from a lousy fake memoir. Which just goes to show what a bunch of unsophisticated rubes they are.
In an inspired line of argument, Ben Smith of the website BuzzFeed suggests that the controversy over "Dreams From My Father" is the fault of conservatives who have "taken the self-portrait at face value." We are so unlettered and hicky that we think a memoir is about stuff that actually happened rather than a literary jeu d'esprit playing with nuances of notions of assumptions of preconceptions of concoctions of invented baloney. And so we regard the first member of the Invented-American community to make it to the White House as a kinda weird development rather than an encouraging sign of how a new post-racial, post-gender, post-modern America is moving beyond the old straitjackets of black and white, male and female, gay and straight, real and hallucinatory.
The question now is whether the United States itself is merely the latest chapter of Obama's fake memoir. You'll notice that, in the examples listed above, the invention only goes one way. No Cherokee orphan, Holocaust survivor or recovering drug addict pretends to be George Wallace's speechwriter. Instead, the beneficiaries of boring middle-class Western life seek to appropriate the narratives and thereby enjoy the electric frisson of fashionable victim groups. And so it goes with public policy in the West at twilight.
Thus, Obama's executive order on immigration exempting a million people from the laws of the United States, is patently unconstitutional, but that's not how an NPR listener looks at it: To him, Obama's unilateral amnesty enriches stultifying white-bread America with a million plucky little Rigoberta Menchus and their heartbreaking stories. Eric Holder's entire tenure as attorney general is a fake memoir all by itself, and his invocation of "executive privilege" in the Fast & Furious scandal is preposterous, but American liberals can't hear: Insofar as they know anything about Fast & Furious, it's something to do with the government tracking the guns of fellows like those Alabama "Segregation Forever" nuts, rather than a means by which hundreds of innocent Rigoberta Menchus south of the border were gunned down with weapons sold to their killers by liberal policy-makers of the Obama administration. If that's the alternative narrative, they'll take the fake memoir.
Similarly, Obamacare is apparently all about the repressed patriarchal white male waging his "war on women." The women are struggling 30-year-old Georgetown Law coeds whose starting salary after graduation is 140 grand a year, but let's not get hung up on details. Dodd-Frank financial reform, also awaiting Supreme Court judgment, is another unconstitutional power grab, but its designated villains are mustache-twirling top-hatted bankers, so, likewise, who cares?
One can understand why the beneficiaries of the postwar West's expansion of middle-class prosperity would rather pass themselves off as members of way-cooler victim groups: it's a great career move. It may even have potential beyond the page: See Sandra Fluke's dazzling pre-Broadway tryout of "Fake Memoir: The High School Musical," in which a 30-year-old Georgetown Law coed whose starting salary after graduation is 140 grand a year passes herself off as the Little Rigoberta Hussein Wilkomirski of the Rite-Aid pick-up line. But transforming an entire nation into a fake memoir is unlikely to prove half so lucrative. The heartwarming immigrants, the contraceptive-less coeds, the mustache-twirling bankers all provide cover for a far less appealing narrative: an expansion of centralized power hitherto unknown to this republic. In reality, Obama's step-grandfather died falling off the chair while changing the drapes. In the fake-memoir version, Big Government's on the chair, and it's curtains for America.
3478  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / SCOTUS, health care ruling and stock market on: June 21, 2012, 01:59:30 PM
Some thoughts on subject though the author does have a very baby face shocked
3479  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Housing/Mortgage/Real Estate on: June 21, 2012, 01:56:01 PM
30 yr now @ 3.66% - lowest on record!

3480  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / PSA screening on: June 21, 2012, 01:18:46 PM
CDC has good summary of pros and cons of PSA screening.   There is a link for a file for African American men that can be found at the CDC website too.   They, for unknown reasons, have a higher risk.   I think I will start referring people here to read up on testing and let them decide if they want it.  While I certainly do not want to be giving advice here on the board, because I have posted previously on the subject, I feel it necessary to clarify with the best available information on the subject which is still a controversial subject.  I read at least 3 or 4 reviews that conclude routine screening is probably more harm than good and one author states something to the effect the era of PSA screening for all men is over.   Then within a few weeks is the backlash not unlike the breast cancer screening controversy not too long ago.   I hope this clarifies to some extnet the present knowledge and I didn't confuse anyone:
3481  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Olympics/elite athletes on: June 21, 2012, 12:13:21 PM
I found this Mayo Clinic Proceedings article about genetics and athletic performance interesting.   It concerns all elite athletes and is apropo with the London games coming up.   I love watching the Olympics.  They are a great break from all the other drama.
3482  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Olympics/elite athletes on: June 20, 2012, 02:09:46 PM
I found this Mayo Clinic Proceedings article about genetics and athletic performance interesting.   It concerns all elite athletes and is apropo with the London games coming up.   I love watching the Olympics.  They are a great break from all the other drama.
3483  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Supreme Court again? on: June 20, 2012, 02:04:36 PM
This suggests the next step is the Supreme Court which will take ? long.  Can this be done before November?

"Once executive privilege is asserted, coequal branches of the Government are set on a collision course. The Judiciary is forced into the difficult task of balancing the need for information in a judicial proceeding and the Executive’s Article II prerogatives. This inquiry places courts in the awkward position of evaluating the Executive’s claims of confidentiality and autonomy, and pushes to the fore difficult questions of separation of powers and checks and balances. These ‘occasion for constitutional confrontation between the two branches’ are likely to be avoided whenever possible.”

Crafty ask's,

"Doesn't this require an asssertion that the President was involved?"

Bigdog says, "no".

But doesn't this mean yes:

"So what does Obama’s invocation of executive privilege mean for the Fast & Furious investigation moving forward?

It may have very serious implications for the Obama White House. Holder previously testified that President Obama was not directly involved in discussions about Fast & Furious, and President Obama told CNN Espanol in a recorded interview that he had no involvement and only found out about the scandal “on the news.” However, today’s assertion of executive privilege puts both claims in question."

3484  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Israel, and its neighbors on: June 18, 2012, 09:17:48 AM
"Doug, do you know of any crime, anyone more hideous and destructive to our country than a traitor?"

How about a WH staff that releases sensitive security intelligence to the whole world for political gain?

Obama saying he did not "authorize it" bespeaks that he knew.

He didn't "authorize it" but he knew and winked.  At least that is what it sounds like to me.
3485  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues on: June 17, 2012, 02:47:49 PM
"Was he lying to us then or is he lying to us now?"

Both.   It doesn't seem to matter thought.   The deciders of elections, the  "undecideds" don't seem to think honesty is important enough a requisite job qualification.   Clinton certainly proved that case in the 90's.

Say whatever it takes to get re elected.

3486  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Israel, and its neighbors on: June 17, 2012, 02:10:22 PM
"Separately, I note the author's lack of rage at the recent giving up of secret intel to the who fg world , , ,"

Great point.

3487  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Krauthammer on: June 17, 2012, 02:06:52 PM
 Echoes Crafty's question of a week ago about Obama should be getting trounced in the polls.  He is so Carteresque.   Yet they polls are still around 50/50.  Well if I recall correctly, Reagan and Carter were neck in neck going into the debates.   Only then did Reagan pull ahead only to win with a large margin.  I still think Morris is more accurate here and Romney will do better than expected.  OTOH Romney is not the communicator Reagan was:

I like Kruathammers lament that Jeb Bush is illogical when he points out the Repub party is controlled by right wing fanatics while the reality is we have a nominee who is distinctly way to the *left* of Reagan.  Frankly I have had enough of the Bushes.  H gave us Clinton,  and W gave us Obama.   One could only imagine what Jeb would give us.   They are IMHO all great Americans.   Yet I sorta wish they would go to pasture along with the Clintons.

 ****Charles Krauthammer
Opinion Writer Silly Season, 2012
  June 14The Washington Post Mitt Romney vs. Barack Obama is not exactly Jefferson-Adams or Lincoln-Douglas. No Harry Truman or Bill Clinton here, let alone FDR or Reagan. Indeed, it’s arguable that neither party is fielding its strongest candidate. Hillary Clinton would run far better than Obama. True, her secretaryship of state may not remotely qualify as Kissingerian or Achesonian, but she’s not Obama. She carries none of his economic baggage. She’s unsullied by the past 31 / 2 years.

Similarly, the Republican bench had several candidates stronger than Romney, but they chose not to run. Indeed, one measure of the weakness of the two finalists is this: The more each disappears from view, the better he fares. Obama prospered when he was below radar during the Republican primaries. Now that they’re over and he’s back out front, his fortunes have receded.

.He is constantly on the campaign trail. His frantic fundraising — 160 events to date — alternates with swing-state rallies where the long-gone charisma of 2008 has been replaced by systematic special-interest pandering, from cut-rate loans for indentured students to free contraceptives for women (the denial of which constitutes a “war” on same).

Then came the rush of bad news: terrible May unemployment numbers, a crushing Democratic defeat in Wisconsin, and that curious revolt of the surrogates, as Bill Clinton, Deval Patrick and Cory Booker — all dispatched to promote Obama — ended up contradicting, undermining or deploring Obama’s anti-business attacks on Romney.

Obama’s instinctive response? Get back out on the air. Call an impromptu Friday news conference. And proceed to commit the gaffe of the year: “The private sector is doing fine.”

This didn’t just expose Obama to precisely the out-of-touchness charge he is trying to hang on Romney. It betrayed his core political philosophy. Obama was trying to attribute high unemployment to a paucity of government workers and to suggest that the solution was to pad the public rolls (with borrowed Chinese money). In doing so, though, he fatally undid his many previous protestations of being a fiscally prudent government cutter. (Hence his repeated, and widely discredited, boast of the lowest spending growth since Eisenhower.)

He thus positioned himself as, once again, the big-government liberal of 2009, convinced that what the ailing economy needs is yet another bout of government expansion. A serious political misstep, considering the fate of the last stimulus: the weakest recovery since the Great Depression, with private-sector growth a minuscule 1.2 percent.

But that’s not the end of the tribulations that provoked a front-page Washington Post story beginning: “Is it time for Democrats to panic”? The sleeper issue is the cascade of White House leaks that have exposed significant details of the cyberattacks on Iran, the drone war against al-Qaeda, the double-agent in Yemen, and the Osama bin Laden raid and its aftermath.

This is not leak-business as usual. “I have never seen it worse,” said Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein, 11 years on the Intelligence Committee. These revelations, clearly meant to make Obama look the heroic warrior, could prove highly toxic if current investigations bear out Sen. John McCain’s charges of leaks tolerated, if not encouraged, by a campaigning president placing his own image above the nation’s security. After all, Feinstein herself stated that these exposures were endangering American lives, weakening U.S. security and poisoning relations with other intelligence services.

Quite an indictment. Where it goes, no one knows. Much will hinge on whether Eric Holder’s Justice Department will stifle the investigation he has now handed over to two in-house prosecutors. And whether Republicans and principled Democrats will insist on a genuinely independent inquiry.

Nonetheless, there is nothing inexorable about the current Obama slide. The race remains 50-50. Republican demoralization after a primary campaign that blew the political equivalent of a seven-run lead has now given way to Democratic demoralization at the squandering of their subsequent ­post-primary advantage.

What remains is a solid, stolid, gaffe-prone challenger for whom conservatism is a second language vs. an incumbent with a record he cannot run on and signature policies — Obamacare, the stimulus, cap-and-trade — he hardly dare mention.

A quite dispiriting spectacle. And more than a bit confusing. Why, just this week the estimable Jeb Bush averred that the Republican Party had become so rigidly right-wing that today it couldn’t even nominate Ronald Reagan.

Huh? It’s about to nominate Mitt Romney, who lives a good 14 nautical miles to the left of Ronald Reagan.

Goodness. Four more months of this campaign and we will all be unhinged.****
3488  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Jonathan Pollard on: June 17, 2012, 01:31:02 PM

I am certainly no expert on this case but at least one thing bothers me about it.  Listening to radio programs on this it is alleged that NO other person accused of passing information to an ally has ever been given a life sentence.   No one has ever served as much time for a similar crime.   Thus the question begets, what gives here?

It really does sound like some sort of vendetta.   I really don't understand why he is not by now released.  Is something else going on, we the publick are not privy to?

As for Roland Martin,  I again ask what liberal Black Democrat has ever spoken publically in defense of Jews, or Israel?

If ths Martin rant you posted does not have an anti-semitic "scent" to it, I do not know what does.

If you ask me, liberal Jews have done more than any other minority to stick up for Blacks.  This is an example of the thanks they get.

While I am Jewish I am not liberal.  That said I do sympathize with the history of the way Blacks have been treated in the in the US.

It is astounding how they have not been included in American life.   I still cannot believe that only a generation ago they were segregated let alone slaves a few generations ago.

That said, I don't feel like just rolling over and allowing that *angry* Martin guy to get away with this rant.

It is really interesting to see how so many Jews have helped Obama politically over the decades and still do.  Yet what he has done is write a book about his Muslim Communist probably Jew hating father who he never knew (Dreams FROM my father).  He joined a Church in Chicago when it was poltically expedient with a Reverend who is obviously NOT "enamored" with Jews (to put it mildly).

We see pictures of him wearing yamukahs and recently giving  the Medal of Freedom to Shimon Peres when he needs our votes.   He even has Peres make the ridiculous statement when accepting the award that he appreciates the "fact" that Obama "never took  all options off the table!!!"

Well excuse me, the military option was cearly NEVER on the table and I am not sure if it is now.  It was always about talks, sanctions and the rest of the soft stuff.  Any idiot could see that.   So did the Iran leadership.  Anyway I am going off on a tangent.
3489  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / follow up on PSA screening on: June 17, 2012, 01:02:55 PM
For better disclosure in that the use of PSA screening is still advocated by many though again it seems like mostly urologists.  On one hand the urologist deal with prostate disease more than anyone else and are most qualified.   At the same time they also have a financial stake in this.    Here is one of the two Fox news health commentators advocating for the test as a screening test.  It is noteworthy that he IS a urologist.   However,  I noted that today, in direct contradiction to himself a few weeks ago Dr. Siegal who is an internist also recommneded the test.   I have disagreed with him before and with a few things he said today.   In this case I agree with the USPTF that the test appears to do more harm than good and is of unclear or rare benefit benefit.  That said, the best course may be to use it with symptoms, with a family history, or if digital rectal exam is abnormal and with full disclosure to the patient about all of the above based upon their decision.

This is my *opinion* along with many, but clearly not all doctors.

Apparantly the next big *screening* "debate" is going to be for yearly chest cat scans on patients who are high risk for lung cancer - smokers or previous smokers.   You will all start hearing more and more about this too.

The infinite iterations of humans and the universe we live in is mind boggling.  And exhausting at least to me - not exciting just tiring.
3490  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: June 15, 2012, 04:40:56 PM
"I forget where I saw/heard it (pollster Luntz on FOX?) but the political answer to the question as to how the hell Baraq is even competetive is that people tend to see the choice between:

a) the Bush policies that got us in this mess
b) the Baraq policies that keep us in this mess"

I guess this is supposed to be some sort of proxy for voters' decision on what is the best course of action going forward - that is is smaller government as proposed by conservative orthodoxy the best way forward for independents.  

Or is bigger government as proposed by liberals better for them.

Unfortunately as previous posts point out it is not black or white.  First Bush was not a strict conservative.  Indeed he had followed this compassionate conservative thing trying to pick off Democrat or Independent voters from the entitlement crowd.

Jeb seems to think this is wise and ultimately needed because of future demographics.

OTOH, Obama has not been totally liberal on foreign policy though I have to say he is liberal on the domestic front and going more that way every day.  (One can only imagine what a radical he would be in a second term).

All that said we are really talking about how to win the undecided voters as the rest of us are already in the right or left camps.

My impression is the undecideds are clearly frustrated and sick of Obama.  I think the nagging question for them is if Romney gets in and governs as a conservative Republican with all sorts of spending cuts then they will lose out on entiltlement payments or safety net items (unemployment, medicare, food stamps).  Sure if they are guaranteed all sorts of jobs with decent pay then they would go head over heals for Mitt.

If people are getting unemployment, health benefits, Soc Sec. food stamps in order to survive, sure they want the economy to grow with job creation but  they don't want to be out on the streets as Bill Clinton apply put , having "bread lines come back".

3491  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, corruption etc. on: June 13, 2012, 02:26:15 PM
I keep hearing Democrats saying that there is no proof of "rampant" voter fraud.   That it is an aboration, rare, the exception to the rule.

But this begets the question how can we know if we don't even ID anyone how much fraud there really is?

How can one know without following people around if they are who they say they are or are elligible to vote or are not voting for other people without some ID (at least)?

If only 1% of vote are fraudulent that could have still meant 20 thousand votes in Wisoconsin were illiegitimate.   While 1% is not a lot 20,000 is.   Try sorting out one of a hundred.
3492  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: June 13, 2012, 02:19:44 PM
Well it sounds like we won't have to worry about Chelsea going far.   In her defense her parents, for better or worse, are certainly a tough act to follow.

That said I still contend we well have Hillary running in '16.  We are not done with the Clintons and their political machine yet.

3493  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / sweeteners on: June 12, 2012, 02:53:41 PM
Harvard epidemiologist Willet (been around for decades [like me  embarassed] - I saw him give a lecture in West Palm Beach around 20 yrs ago) on sweeteners and health.  One must remember epidemiology can show a relationshp but that is not necessariy causation and is usually only the first step in studying the relationship of different traits (at least in meidicine).   As for my theory that Bloomberg's banning larger sodas is going to do nothing for slowing weight loss - Willet makes a case for Bloomberg here.   I admit I had a patient come in just recently and tell me she lost weight and when I asked how - she replied she got rid of the sodas!  shocked undecided
3494  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: June 12, 2012, 02:37:07 PM
"Obama in 10-Point Drop among Jews
Among U.S. Jews, 64% support Obama, down from 74% in 2008 and similar to what Dukakis got in 1988."

Now we know why (most likely approved by, if not done by himself by Alexrod) is leaking security information to the Times including supposed cyber sabotage/eavesdropping in Iran.

Got to keep those Jews sending in the dollars aye Brock?

3495  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / the first black president; Radical socialist "New Party" member on: June 12, 2012, 02:33:21 PM
And first marxist president:

Friday, 08 June 2012 12:11 Obama Belonged to Radical Socialist "New Party" in 1996
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 Stanley Kurtz, in his June 7 article "Obama's Third-Party History" for National Review Online, reports that Barack Obama’s connection to far-left radicals is much more recent that had been previously thought. On January 11, 1996, Kurtz notes, Obama joined the New Party, a radical socialist political movement deeply opposed to capitalism and of the opinion that the Democratic Party was far too moderate.  The New Party sought to transform America into the sort of socialist democracy that is common in Europe.

Perhaps more importantly, Kurtz notes that when he first raised this issue in National Review a few weeks before the 2008 presidential election, the Obama campaign dismissed his story as a “crackpot smear,” firmly maintaining that their candidate had belonged to only one political party his whole life — the Democratic Party. On the Obama campaign's “Fight the Smears” website Carol Harwell stated: “Barack did not solicit or seek the New Party endorsement for the state senate in 1995.”

Kurtz bases his proof of Obama’s membership in the New Party on documents obtained from the Illinois ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now) records at the Wisconsin Historical Society. Obama also signed a contract, Kurtz reveals, in which he promised that while in office he would publicly support and associate himself with the New Party. Kurtz quotes from the January 11, 1996 minutes of the Chicago chapter of the New Party:

Barack Obama, candidate for State Senate in the 13th Legislative District, gave a statement to the membership and answered questions. He signed the New Party "Candidate Contract" and requested an endorsement from the New Party. He also joined the New Party.

The National Review Online article notes that the Chicago chapter of the New Party listed Obama as a party member beginning in early 1997.

Kurtz then identifies several different threads that tie Barack Obama to radical Marxism, which include these facts:

• His father wrote a paper which advocated 100% taxation of the rich, communal ownership of land and confiscation of private property, and penned an article in Kenya entitled “The Problems Facing Our Socialism”;

• His mother was a Communist sympathizer who had been described as a “fellow traveler” while she was alive, whose teachers at Mercer Island High School forced students to read the Communist Manifesto;

• His parents met in a Russian language class;

• His mentor was known Communist Party member Frank Marshall Davis and in Hawaii from 1971 to 1979, Davis treated Obama like a son;

• His brother Roy Obama is a Marxist, and also a radical Muslim;

• His cousin Odinga is also a Marxist and a radical Muslim who seeks to establish Shariah courts in Kenya;

• He attended a socialist conference at Copper Union;

• He was hand picked by Illinois State Senator Alice Palmer to succeed her, and Palmer attended the 27th Communist Party Congress in the Soviet Union;

• His campaign for the Illinois State Senate was organized by avowed Marxists Bill Ayers (pictured above) and Bernadette Dorhn.

The evidence which Kurtz (and others) have assembled to show the deep immersion of Barack Obama in Marxism is overwhelming. The latest proof, his membership as recently as 15 years ago in the radical socialist New Party, shows his Marxist upbringing remained with him and, crucially, that he has concealed that information from Americans.


3496  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / OMG! on: June 12, 2012, 02:18:54 PM
Obama losing support among Blacks in NC!   Welcome back to the party of Lincoln my fellow Americans!

Save the country for all of us.   Now if only my fellow Jews who are crazy liberal Democrats would start to wake up then this country will not go the way of Europe.

No wonder the Dems are panicking.

The recently offered proof that Bamster WAS in the Socialist Party and he lied about it says it all.   He absolutely does despise this country and his saying the private sector is doing "fine" is absolutely not a gaff and absolutely is consistent with his political thought.
3497  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Politics on: June 12, 2012, 10:51:21 AM
"when they decided to sit out and the polls Obama saw when he decided to fly over and tweet it in."

Agreed.  It is still quite remarkable how the left spinners with their journolist accomplices can still come up with some sort of BS that paints a better picture for themselves.

I guess when it is ok to have a sitting president say things like it depends what one means by "is" and have his media thugs saying things like she had sex with him but not vice a versa or an attorney general claiming he was referring to something other than "fast and furious" in an email....

I remember Stephanopoulus when he was Clinton's first press BS artist on TV every day just astonishingly spin everything around twisting the language the logic the rationalizations to such an absurd extent.  I thought this guy has to go.

This kind of stuff is routine now.

3498  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Politics on: June 12, 2012, 10:02:12 AM
Morris agrees with Doug and myself, the Wisconsin exit poll data is skewed.   The Dems are in total denial.   Wait until Romney wins in November by a *good margin* (barring something unforeseen or a melt down on his part).   Everyone will be saying they knew Obama's loss was inevitable.  It won't be close.  It won't come down to a few states.  Jimmy Carter II:
3499  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Media Issues on: June 07, 2012, 04:07:17 PM
Speaking of lying.   When our Atty General sworn to uphold the law can't even tell the truth!

What does this say about our country?

Thanks to Clinton lying at the highest levels has become total sport and an art.

Any semblence of honesty with integrity is simply out the window.
3500  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Stocks and Supreme Ct decision on Obamacare? on: June 07, 2012, 04:04:04 PM
In one evaluation 86% lf the time the side that was asked more questions lost their case in front of the Supreme Court.

I wonder what the market will do if the Justices decide against the law either in whole or part of it:
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