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3551  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / details of daughter suing parents for college tuition on: December 27, 2014, 08:43:19 AM

Dad Speaks Out After 21-Year-Old Sues Him to Pay College Tuition

Michael RicciDecember 27, 2014

Dad Speaks Out After 21-Year-Old Sues Him to Pay College TuitionPhoto courtesy Michael Ricci

Since Yahoo Parenting launched on Oct. 23, the editors and writers have posted nearly 600 stories on the site. They chose this article – originally published on Dec. 10 – as a highlight of the pieces that offer trusted advice, inspire provocative conversations, and hopefully add a little fun to your life, every day.

Caitlyn Ricci, 21, has been battling her parents over college tuition in court since August 2013. On Monday, a judge ruled that Michael Ricci and Maura McGarvey must pay $16,000 toward their daughter’s tuition for Temple University, where Caitlyn is a student. Earlier, another judge ruled the parents, who are divorced, must also foot the bill for a community college she attended before transferring to Temple. In his own words, Michael Ricci offers his take on his family’s ordeal to Yahoo Parenting exclusively.

Most nights before I fall asleep, I have tears in my eyes thinking about the difficulty my family is going through. My daughter is suing her mother and me for $16,000 towards college tuition, and a judge has ruled in her favor. My daughter moved out, and I only ever see her in court. It’s certainly not what I wanted for my family.

Every day I wake up and miss my daughter. I miss talking to her, seeing her, asking her about her day, and being involved in her life. I understand that after she was kicked out of her Disney internship, a program she participated in to help prepare for college, she was upset and angry at the rules her mother and I set for her. She was kicked out of the program for underage drinking, and so we had to set boundaries. That included chores, a curfew, and summer classes. When Caitlyn left our home in February 2013, to go to her grandparents, we thought we’d let her go for a couple days and then she would come home. When we called her grandparents to ask that they send her home, they said, “No, she can stay here as long as she wants.” That’s when we knew we had problems.  

Maura and I have mutually parented Caitlyn her entire life. We’ve never before been that divorced couple that is in and out of court. We went to court only once — for our divorce. Although we may have disagreed at times, we always had Caitlyn’s best interests in mind. Always.  

I found out through Twitter that my daughter was attending Temple [University in Philadelphia]. Yes, Twitter. And now, even after her mother and I agreed that if Caitlyn transferred to a state college we would help her financially (even though she hasn’t spoken to us in almost two years), a judge is telling me that if my daughter wants to go to Temple, she can go, and we have to pay for it. Basically, Caitlyn can go anywhere she wants and we have to pay. We have no say.

I am disappointed in the New Jersey Family court system for making parenting decisions for my daughter, as if they know what is best for her. The bottom line is, she made a mistake when she got kicked out of her internship program. There are consequences for her actions. She didn’t want to abide by our rules, so she left. We asked her several times to come home and she never did. It makes my blood boil listening to a judge tell me that my daughter can go to any school in country she wants to, have no relationship with her parents, and we have to pay! We offered in-state tuition and she wants to go out of state. Common sense would say she should pay for it. The law is ridiculous. My ex and I have met with legislators who are writing a new bill that protects parents from this happening again. Do you realize that if you are married in the state of New Jersey, you are not under any legal obligation to pay for college? But, if you get divorced, you must contribute? Please, someone tell me how that makes sense. Not only do you have to pay, but apparently you have to pay for any college they want to go to, anywhere in the country. My ex and I have five kids between us, a mortgage, and other expenses. Why don’t they take any of that into account?  

People who are following this story have been quick to blame Caitlyn exclusively. Each and every story I read is followed by hundreds or even thousands of horrible comments about my daughter and what a brat she is.

While I absolutely place blame on Caitlyn for this, the majority of it lies with her grandparents, who have fostered and even financed this debacle while she lives at their house. What kind of people encourage their granddaughter to sue her own parents…their son? Most days I am sad, even depressed, that something so private is now so public. It’s only when I’m home with my wife or coaching my basketball players that I feel like myself. My ex and I want to help our daughter, we want her to be successful in life, but we would also like to have some influence in her life.

Maura and I are Caitlyn’s parents, so we want to have input and involvement in her decisions. Caitlyn, her attorney, and her grandparents want money. That’s it. The judge asked me in court on Monday if I had a college plan for my daughter. I presented the plan that includes financial help along with moving home and attending counseling. He asked the same of my daughter.  Her response, “I want them to pay for college.” The entire thing makes me sick to my stomach.

Caitlyn Ricci’s lawyer, Andrew Rochester, provided the following statement to Yahoo Parenting: “Since Caitlyn has moved in with her grandparents she has gotten into no trouble and her grades have gone up. She is a solid A/B college student and works a 30-hour job. Mr. Ricci should be proud of her accomplishments instead of disparaging because he doesn’t want to pay for her education. It really doesn’t matter if Caitlyn was going to Temple , Rutgers, Montclair State, or Harvard,  Mr. Ricci has made clear he wasn’t going to pay no matter what school Caitlyn went to. Mr. Ricci and Ms. McGarvey, based on their incomes, certainly have ability to pay, and we gave them options not to pay cash out of hand and they decided not to avail themselves of those options.”

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3552  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / I guess fracking has nothing to do with it. on: December 19, 2014, 08:48:42 AM
And surely Obama wants much lower energy prices (sarcasm emphasized).  How is this for liberal spin and twisting logic on its head?:

How Obama (and Bush) helped drive down oil prices
Yahoo Finance By Rick Newman
21 hours ago
 In this Friday, Dec. 12, 2014 photo, Quick Trip clerk Roxana Valverde adjusts the gas price sign numbers at a Tolleson, Ariz. QT convenience store as gas prices continue to tumble nationwide. The price of oil has fallen by nearly half in just six months, a surprising and steep plunge that has consumers cheering, producers howling and economists wringing their hands over whether this is a good or bad thing. (AP Photo/Ross D. Franklin)
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In this Friday, Dec. 12, 2014 photo, Quick Trip clerk Roxana Valverde adjusts the gas price sign numbers at a Tolleson, Ariz. QT convenience store as gas prices continue to tumble nationwide. The price of oil has fallen by nearly half in just six months, a surprising and steep plunge that has consumers cheering, producers howling and economists wringing their hands over whether this is a good or bad thing. (AP Photo/Ross D. Franklin)
Few people foresaw the nearly 50% plunge in oil prices this year. But the forces reshaping the oil market have been aligning for nearly a decade, with part of the impetus coming from Washington.

In 2007, Congress passed the Energy Independence and Security Act, which President George W. Bush promptly signed. The EISA raised federal mileage requirements for passenger cars for the first time since 1990, in an effort to reduce U.S. gas consumption and make America less dependent on foreign oil.

The new rules required automakers to achieve average fuel economy of 35 miles per gallon among all the new vehicles in their fleet by model year 2020 -- up sharply from a requirement of 27.5 MPG for cars and 22.2 MPG for light trucks (pickups and SUVs) at the time.

President Obama raised the MPG goal further in 2012, requiring average fuel economy of 54.5 MPG for all new vehicles sold by model year 2025. Automakers argued that the technology developments necessary to reach those levels would add thousands of dollars to the cost of a car, but so far they've been making progress without causing sticker shock for car buyers. A combination of electric vehicles, hybrids, diesels and far more efficient gas engines has helped improve overall average fuel economy by 5.3 MPG during the last seven years, according to the University of Michigan Transportation Research Institute. That's a big improvement that would cut the typical driver's gas consumption by about 70 gallons a year.

Overall, the MPG improvements have been working, with lower U.S. oil and gas consumption achieved, as this chart shows:

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.Source: U.S. Energy Information Administration
Source: U.S. Energy Information Administration
The consumption decline that began in 2007 is partly due to people driving less during the recession of 2008 and 2009. However, gas consumption continued to fall until 2012, before ticking up in 2013. Even with that slight increase, gas consumption last year was at 2002 levels. When adjusted for population growth, consumption has fallen to levels of the late 1960s, when there were far fewer cars per household.

Reduced gas consumption in the United States is hardly the only factor affecting the price of oil, which trades globally and is determined by many variables. A surge in U.S. crude production has added to global supplies and aided in pushing down prices. Saudi Arabia has kept its own production levels steady rather than decreasing output -- as it has done during past gluts -- to prop up prices. Meanwhile, a sluggish global economy has kept demand for oil lower than many producers expected.

Still, weaker demand for gasoline in the world's largest economy accounts for some of the slack demand for oil. With the government's performance generally poor during the last decade of partisan fighting, the hike in MPG standards is a rare example of a policy with bipartisan support accomplishing what it was supposed to.

That's helping now in political confrontations with long-time foes such as Russia and Iran. Bush and Obama couldn't have foreseen the way cheap oil is inadvertently helping the West turn up the pressure on Russia in response to its role in Ukraine's civil war. But Iran and other oil producers, such as Venezuela, are U.S. antagonists that policymakers have long sought leverage over. Score one for Washington.

Fuel-economy improvements should continue and even accelerate, since the biggest gains are slated for the years approaching 2025. From 2020 through 2025, for instance, the MPG goal will rise from 41.7 MPG to 54.5, a 31% increase. From 2009 through 2014, it rose from 27.5 to 34.1, a 24% improvement. (MPG figures are slightly different from the Michigan numbers, which measure actual fuel economy of vehicles on the road.) That will continue dampening U.S. oil and gas consumption for the foreseeable future.

Demand for oil and gasoline will rise elsewhere, as more people drive in emerging economies such as China, India and Brazil. But those nations also will benefit as technology developed to reduce gas consumption in America proliferates and becomes cheaper. And that's an American export they won't even have to pay for.

Rick Newman’s latest book is Rebounders: How Winners Pivot From Setback To Success. Follow him on Twitter: @rickjnewman.
3553  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Men & Women on: December 17, 2014, 09:23:54 PM
I am glad the myth of the claim that some ridiculous numbers of women being sexually assaulted is starting to drip out.  I have interviewed hundreds of female patients and while I agree rape of violent assault is not rare it is no where near the absurd numbers being thrown about by crazy fanatical liberals such as one out of two or three or four.  These are numbers that include those who had a 24 year old reach for a breast in the movie theater being considered an assault or rape.  Or worse even uncomfortable looks or even feeling uncomfortable around a man.

These numbers are so exaggerated.  I ask women all the time these questions and the vast majority will reply no they were not sexually physically or emotionally abused.
3554  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Way Forward for the American Creed on: December 17, 2014, 09:16:50 PM
"Personally I find that since the government has taken my income, with my taxes more than 100% of take home income, and nothing left over, and they are spending the majority of that on redistribution, I really have no time or interest in charity unless and until we change that dynamic."

Ditto Doug.  I was on the check line of a shopping center when the cashier asked me to donate to some charity.  I said I already work roughly five months a year for the government.   Isn't that a darn 'nuff?   What I should give more?  Are you kidding?

3555  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Doctor version of community organizer on: December 17, 2014, 09:13:17 PM
Now at age 37 the nation's surgeon general.  I used to get emails from this big socialist liberal to join his Obama Care fan club.  This is a joke.  All politics.  Has nothing to do with medical care.  All about promoting obama care.  The damage continues for the next two years:

****Washington (CNN) -- The Senate confirmed Vivek Murthy as surgeon general on Monday night as Democrats -- in the final days of their majority control of the chamber -- overcame stiff opposition from the National Rifle Association.

The 51 to 43 vote ends more than a year of uncertainty over Murthy's nomination. Obama had tapped the founder of the pro-Obamacare group Doctors for America for the post in November 2013.

But a confirmation vote had been held up after the gun lobby pointed to a letter Murthy had signed calling for new gun control measures in the wake of the Newtown, Connecticut, school shootings, and promised to score a vote in Murthy's favor against senators in its ratings of how strongly lawmakers support gun rights.

Murthy, 37, is America's youngest-ever top doctor, and he is also the first surgeon general of Indian-American descent.

Obama lauded Murthy's confirmation, saying he will help the United States combat the threat of Ebola.

"As 'America's Doctor,' Vivek will hit the ground running to make sure every American has the information they need to keep themselves and their families safe. He'll bring his lifetime of experience promoting public health to bear on priorities ranging from stopping new diseases to helping our kids grow up healthy and strong," Obama said in a statement.

Opinion: Surgeon general's win is a political miracle

"Vivek will also help us build on the progress we've made combating Ebola, both in our country and at its source," he said. "Combined with the crucial support for fighting Ebola included in the bill to fund our government next year, Vivek's confirmation makes us better positioned to save lives around the world and protect the American people here at home."

But soon-to-be Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, the Kentucky Republican whose party will take control of the chamber once new members are in place next month, called Murthy a political appointment.

"The surgeon general is known as America's doctor and the men and women chosen to fill that role in the past have usually been highly qualified individuals with substantial experience in patient care," McConnell said in a statement.

"Unfortunately, Dr. Murthy's nomination had more to do with politics -- he was a founder in 2008 of a group called Doctors for Obama, and has been an outspoken political advocate of Obamacare and gun control -- than his medical experience," he said. "With America facing the challenge of Ebola and other serious health challenges, it's unfortunate that the President chose a nominee based on the candidate's political support instead of a long career delivering patient care and managing difficult health crises."

Democrats taunt Cruz over surgeon general vote

This story has been updated****

3556  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Republicans will win IF, and a doubtful if, they can address this as said before on: December 07, 2014, 07:26:33 PM
by me in my opinion. 

"the political future belongs to those who will displace the progressive Clerisy's objectives with an agenda of economic growth"

I drive down a major thoroughfare by me each day and it is remarkable the growth in new chain outlets (two new walmarts within a few miles of each other, paneras, chipoltes, flash burgers etc.)  New malls springing up.  Others half dormant.  All very strange.  In most of the chains are people obviously born elsewhere.

There really are two economies.  For the wealthy and connected and cheap labor (those being born here paid beans and those from elsewhere willing to work for beans) the economy is booming.  For the big moneyed players, the big companies.  Health care is a case in point.  The big companies are making huge profits.  Somehow everyone else seems to paying more for it.   The gov subsidizes these big companies who continue to increase rates passing the cost of those who get it free or cheap to the rest of us while they squeeze out every dime.   Even drug stores are getting into managing our health care.   They are now becoming providers.
3557  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / His insurance did not deny payment for this joke? on: December 06, 2014, 04:37:39 PM
Obama Goes To Hospital For Sore Throat
President Barack Obama went to a hospital on Saturday after complaining about a sore throat, the White House announced.

According to the White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest, Dr. Jackson, the president’s physician, recommended he go to Walter Reed Medical Center in Washington for diagnostic tests.

"According to Dr. Jackson, the test is a matter of convenience for the President, not a matter of urgency," the White House said.

The trip was unscheduled. The press pool, journalists who typically follow the president, had initially been dismissed for the day.

UPDATE: The White House released the following statement from Ronny L. Jackson, the president's physician, noting that Obama's symptoms were "consistent with soft tissue inflammation related to acid reflux."

This morning, an ear, nose and throat specialist from Fort Belvoir Medical Center conducted a fiber optic exam, under my supervision, of the President’s throat based on symptoms of sore throat over the past couple weeks. The exam revealed soft tissue swelling in the posterior throat and I, in consultation with the specialist, determined that further evaluation with a routine CT scan was prudent. The CT scan was conducted this afternoon purely as a matter of convenience for the President’s schedule. The CT scan was normal. The President’s symptoms are consistent with soft tissue inflammation related to acid reflux and will be treated accordingly.
3558  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Epidemics: Bird Flu, TB, AIDs, Superbugs, Ebola, etc on: December 06, 2014, 04:15:35 PM
It makes perfect sense to bring these people here for treatment.  Banning travel to these places will only spread those infections around the world even faster.

Alleges CDC head Friedman.
3559  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / We need another agency of Robot regulation - according to this guy on: December 06, 2014, 08:59:50 AM
Law professor argues we need to deal with the burgeoning field of robotics with no less than ANOTHER Federal agency.

I suppose he would nominate himself as the new Czar in Chief:
3560  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: US Economics, the stock market , and other investment/savings strategies on: December 06, 2014, 08:53:51 AM
Someone called into Mark Levin and wondered if the 5 million illegals who are now legal will be added to the unemployment rolls.  Since I believe the vast majority who are not children are working Obama could  claim he "added" a million or two new jobs to the rolls.  That assumes these people will also admit to working. 

The point is the unemployment numbers are all just smoke and mirrors.  And this is one more example to prove it. 
3561  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues on: November 30, 2014, 02:34:28 PM
Well we should be making a better case how this is NOT about those from Latino countries.  It is about all peoples who come and stay here illegally from all over the world.  We already have multiple programs to help people come here and study and work etc.  We should make a case it does hurt people here though I recognize the MSM wave of talking points that somehow we all just do so much better by having millions more to compete with.

 Yes I know would it be better to compete with them overseas or here. No one in their right mind cannot see how the increased competition hurts those here more than it helps.  Most people I know agree with me except die hard liberals who while they would never admit it want more future Democrats.  And no one who is sane would think the Dems would be doing this if these people were going to be predominantly Rep voters.  Why cannot not this simple fact stand up for itself?       

"I need Gomer Pyle's accent to properly say:  Well surprise!  Surprise!  Surprise!"

One of the my favorite shows of all time.  I still remember the one when the Sarge's car gets smashed by a recking ball at the end.  It was one of those belly laughs that adds a year to your life.
3562  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues on: November 28, 2014, 08:31:51 AM
" accuse Obama of screwing up immigration and move on to other things"

None starter for me.
3563  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces on: November 26, 2014, 10:17:01 AM
Agree with you Doug.

One problem I see is the right is not unified in its' response to the left's propaganda along with the obvious disadvantage of being up against a biased MSM and academia and big government "complex".

The arguments coming out of Ferguson defy logic to such an extant I don't know what we are even arguing about anymore.    Listening to Rachel Maddow's rants last PM about how "weird" the presentation from the prosecutor was etc in itself was just disgusting.  Like Levin asks is she so screwed up with her leftist idealogy she just ignore reason, truth, and logic?

The answer is YES.

They just continue arguing when there is NO real argument.  They just won't stop. 

3564  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Hard to stomach the above post on: November 25, 2014, 12:15:36 PM
 angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry

What about the rights of us taxpayers?

NO ONE except Tea Party people are representing us.

Not Boehner, not McConnell not Bushes not Christy.

 angry angry angry angry
3565  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Media Issues on: November 25, 2014, 10:47:12 AM
The complicit MSM is sooo annoying.   angry

They are also covering for the Hillary too.  Panetta set it up.  Now with this ridiculous new House report on Benghazi.

Of course.

3566  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Politics on: November 25, 2014, 09:06:14 AM
Agree completely with above post.  Most of us agree with Mark Levin's comments from last night's radio broadcast.  What he takes away from this is youth should not be robbing stores, strong arming store owners, punching police officers and reaching for their guns. 

Yet we have the left desperately turning this around to suit their agenda. 

Time for center and right of center political leaders to start calling out this charade.  We know the left won't do it.   
3567  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues on: November 22, 2014, 11:13:15 AM
The tenth lie is even more annoying coming from this guy.  For him to suddenly find convenient [misuse] of scripture after he and his leftists are doing everything they can to disassemble religion in this country (except of course for the benefit of Muslims) is just beyond the pale.

Yet not a peep from MSM.  They are mostly Democrats so they just don't care and by their silence reveal their delight.

After reading a biography of Stalin I find the only difference between Obama and the other tyrant is the lack of 'physical' violence.  I have no doubt this guy would be using that too if it could further his goals. Otherwise, no difference between the two men.

3568  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Corruption, and Treason on: November 21, 2014, 05:55:15 PM
Some hopefully good news.  30,000 emails found from Lois Lerner.  We can only hope and pray that many copies are made so criminals who work for the left cannot destroy them.   If they show links to WH then repubs must start lining up the culprits till they get to Obama.

If case is made he MUST be impeached. 
3569  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues on: November 21, 2014, 05:53:06 PM
"It shocks me that so many people STILL refuse to see Obama for the despot he so clearly is."


I guess that shows us the power of bribery with taxpayer money.

As long as much of the population keeps getting showered with gifts what do they care?
3570  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues on: November 21, 2014, 01:42:16 PM
"He needs to be called out on his hypocritical incrementalism"

Yeah sure that will happen.   rolleyes

WE need 200 more Jeff Sessions.

I don't know.   Many Republicans will tell us how lots of immigration is good for us.

Blah blah blah.

I am fed up.  We will be watching him do this again and again for two years while the party who vaguely represents me sits on their hands the whole time.   We will get fools like Chris Christy and Jebster Bush calling for compromise.

Neither one of them should even think of running.  If they do I will sit out.  May as well have Hillary.  Little difference. 

3571  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: November 21, 2014, 01:35:22 PM
" and women voters who will vote for her because she is a woman"

Absolutely.   Just ask all the women around you what they think.  If they are honest many will say they are excited about this babe thing.  It is no different then voting for nonsense like "hope and change".

Many did not even consider what that meant.  It was exciting to them to vote for this creep.  Honesty, socialism they couldn't care less.  It was all emotional based on class/ gender, ethnic, and race warfare.
3572  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Geraldo again on: November 20, 2014, 04:49:08 PM
I saw Geraldo's rant on how Republicans "deserve" this.  This guy can sit there all he wants and call himself a Republican (which I saw him do twice) to impress Fox News viewers and probably management.  He ain't no Republican.
3573  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / I wouldn't expect anything more than this. Feel lucky if this even happens on: November 20, 2014, 12:48:00 PM
And I would add figure a way to stop Obama from finishing his goal of legalizing millions more:

Republicans Can Trump Obama on Immigration

Lanhee Chen
comments icon61 time iconNov 20, 2014 12:36 PM EST
By  Lanhee Chen   

Let's be clear: The executive action President Barack Obama is scheduled to announce tonight isn’t a real fix for the broken U.S. immigration system.

It is a naked political maneuver that he hopes will shore up support for Democrats among Latino voters and re-energize the party's base after its beating in the elections this month.

Obama might not be wrong to think that this is good politics. Whether he’s right depends on how Republicans respond to his announcement. So, they should tread carefully.

First, Republicans should remind Americans that the president's executive action is nothing more than another short-term patch that arguably makes it less, not more, likely that Congress will ever pass permanent reforms. 

In accounts of Obama’s proposed executive action, there has been no clear plan for truly boosting border security; no effort to hold employers who hire illegal immigrants accountable; no repair of our broken visa system for these seeking to come here legally; and, perhaps most significant, no permanent resolution of the legal status of the 11 million people who came to the U.S. unlawfully. In fact, the next president could easily wipe away whatever relief illegal immigrants may receive through any Obama executive action.

Second, Republicans should do everything they can to avoid a government shutdown in response to the president’s announcement. They are right to express, through the legislative process, their concerns over the legal issues and policies in the president’s action. But they shouldn’t hand him a political victory by failing to finance the government.

A more targeted effort -- such as the alternative floated this week by House Appropriations Committee Chairman Hal Rogers of Kentucky -- would be the better approach. Rogers suggested that Congress could first pass an omnibus funding bill that would ensure the government remains open, and then pass “rescissions” bills in the next Congress that would defund specific agencies or government operations directly related to carrying out the president’s plan.

Another option, which my Bloomberg View colleague Ramesh Ponnuru discussed in a recent column, would be to pass two separate funding bills -- omnibus legislation to finance the vast majority of the federal government's operations and a measure focused only on the few offices responsible for carrying out the president's order. The narrower bill would include an explicit prohibition on implementing Obama’s executive action. This division would force Democrats into a corner: either accept the prohibitions on carrying out the president’s executive order, or get blamed for a government shutdown.

Regardless of the approach, Republicans should see to it that spending levels specified in any omnibus legislation are responsible ones. But either of these options enables Republicans to avoid a shutdown while also undercutting Obama's efforts.

Finally, Republicans shouldn't abandon the idea of passing some immigration legislation early in the 114th Congress next year. There is disagreement within their ranks on how to handle the immigrants who are here illegally. But on policies where agreement exists, Republicans should act. By putting permanent changes in place, they would be offering a welcome contrast to the president’s temporary action.

If border security is a prerequisite, Republicans can start there, putting stricter measures in place. They can then move to further increase the number of visas for high-skilled workers and improve the current guest-worker laws. There is also likely agreement on granting legal status to some of the “Dreamers” who were brought to the U.S. illegally as children.

 While I continue to believe it is in Republicans’ best long-term interest to reach consensus on the status of illegal immigrants currently in the U.S., the party's leaders shouldn't allow disagreement on this issue to derail legislation on other important policies. Obama has made his move, and Republicans should respond by enacting reforms. By doing this, they place the onus on Obama, daring him to use his veto power to reject sensible measures that rationalize the process of coming here legally, protect the U.S. economy and preserve the rule of law.

By deciding to move ahead with executive action on immigration, the president is jeopardizing the possibility of bipartisan cooperation in the next Congress. But Republicans have the opportunity to demonstrate that they can and will govern, regardless of what Obama does.

The accomplishments that result from their efforts could cause the president’s cynical, go-it-alone maneuver to backfire -- and help Republicans win back the White House in 2016.

3574  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues on: November 17, 2014, 05:21:28 PM
The labor leaders have to be selling out their members (again).   Allow millions and millions of potential new labor union members in the country and then lock in a stronger Democratic party majority and then push for more union benefits.

That has to be their strategy.  They may not have the choice with Obama they thought they would now.  So play for the long game.  They are not going to become Republicans.
3575  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Too late; The angriest President in history will achieve his goal. on: November 14, 2014, 11:15:39 AM
We know Obama will grant amnesty for 5 million.  Another ten million in the next two years.  That added to the 50 million Spanish in the US now (half of California) will make 65 million.  In another decade that could be 75 million. 

We know the Republicans will not be able to do anything about it.  Forget lawsuits.  Forget them turning it back '16 even if they win.  Forget impeachment.  Too late for any of it. 

So how do we win these people over when competing against "free" benefits paid for by taxpayers?

Winning their hearts and minds:

Not much detail.  Vague as always, on everything I ever read about this.   Truthfully there is no easy answer.  Certainly Republicans have to start securing the border or lest we will have another even bigger flood of people.  We have to make it clear it is NOT Spanish we are enforcing our laws against but protecting us from peoples coming in from all over the world and protecting the Spanish and the rest of us who are here.

Beyond that it is "check" against the Republicans with potential for check mate - until - of course the whole thing comes crashing down.
3576  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Anti-semitism & Jews on: November 13, 2014, 08:30:38 PM
Thanks for the heads up on Rense.  I am not familiar with him.  As for Patton I became quite an admirer after I read O'Reilly's book.  He certainly saw what was coming in regard to Stalin unlike many others at the time who were to busy appeasing Stalin.  Yet the thought of proceeding directly to war with the Soviet Union as Patton probably would have been glad to do must have seemed to horrendous a thought at the time after just beating the Germans and still fighting the Japanese.

Then I read the review by Richard Cohen whose source for the anti-Semitism claims seems to be a collection of Patton's won writings and words edited by Martin Blumenthal.  I cannot link from the computer I am on at this time.

I can forgive Patton for some of the things he may have thought about seeing concentration camp survivors as he probably thought that while that was terrible, so was terrible the suffering of so many other peoples at the time.  I admit to finding it hard to forgive some of the things he apparently said or wrote.

He seemed to have a low opinion of Jews in general, blamed those in the media for the bad press he received at times during his military career.  He also seemed to have a low opinion of Russians in general.   Oddly he seems to have had a greater respect for Germans although I am not sure if this included Nazis.   
3577  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Newt is more and more off the mark - time to go to pasture on: November 13, 2014, 07:46:06 PM
Newt the comparison is far from great.   Obama will make 5 million illegals suddenly legal.  The other ten million will be made legal before he leaves office.  He uses his aces in the hole one a  time.   

And I certainly pray we don't get a Warren Harding in 2016!  Wow what a triumph he was Newt!

Or for that matter Jeb Bush.  Bush One gave us Clinton.  Bush Two gave us Obama.   Folks end of the story - end of the Bush era.   That says it all.  Any Repub who must run for the nomination against Jeb simply use THIS slogan.   

3578  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The US Congress; Congressional races on: November 13, 2014, 07:34:40 PM
"banana republic dictator"

I have no doubt whatsoever if Obama was from another era and from another country he would have been a very intolerant dictator and all his enemies would be summarily disposed of.


3579  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Anti-semitism & Jews on: November 13, 2014, 07:29:44 PM
The article suggests the evidence is based from writings in Patton's own diary though I don't know if true.  I would have to research more.

Car accidents were apparently not an uncommon way for Stalin to kill of an enemy while making it look like an accident.  In my readings it has come up more than a couple of times that someone just suddenly dies of an auto accident.  Another driver coming out of seemingly no where to slam into or cut off the victim on foot or in another vehicle.

I am convinced Patton was murdered.  I don't think he was poisoned later while in a full body cast but the accident to start with was no "accident".

I guess the question remains was it Stalin or the American guy who wanted Patton out of the way because of his anti-Soviet rhetoric which was against everyone else in the Roosevelt-Truman government that wanted to appease Stalin.   
3580  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / "We know we're right on the issues." on: November 09, 2014, 08:30:01 AM
As always, it is never the policy.  Just the messagenger.   Why in the world would the Dem Party want to keep Schultz as the DNC head after this loss?  But it is good for conservatives to keep her there  wink

AP      | By By KEN THOMAS 
Posted:  11/08/2014 2:45 pm EST    Updated:  11/08/2014 4:59 pm EST   

 WASHINGTON (AP) — Democrats are planning an extensive review of what went wrong in the 2014 and 2010 elections, hoping to find ways to translate success in presidential campaigns into future midterm contests.

A party committee will conduct a "top-to-bottom assessment" of the Democrats' performance in recent midterm elections and try to determine why they have struggled to turn out its core voters in nonpresidential elections.

"It's apparent that there are increasingly two separate electorates: a midterm electorate and a presidential electorate. We win one and we don't seem to be able to win the other," said Florida Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who leads the Democratic National Committee, in an interview Saturday. "That is a fundamental dynamic that we have to change."

Democrats suffered heavy losses in last week's elections, ceding Senate control to the Republicans and surrendering more seats in the already GOP-majority House as Republicans ran against an unpopular President Barack Obama.

Republicans picked up governor's offices in a number of Democratic-leaning states like Massachusetts, Maryland and Illinois and strengthened their grip on state legislatures.

Democrats have been successful in turning out an Obama-led coalition of minorities, women and young voters in presidential elections, but have struggled in midterm races when turnout is lower and the electorate tends to be older and whiter, favoring Republicans.

Wasserman Schultz said the new committee, whose membership will be announced in the coming weeks, will look at the party's tactics, messaging, get-out-the-vote operations and digital efforts in recent nonpresidential elections. The group plans to report back in February at the DNC's winter meeting.

Republican National Committee spokeswoman Kirsten Kukowski said last week's elections underscored GOP momentum.

"When Republicans came to the table and played their game, they lost and that's a problem," Kukowski said. "We have said from the beginning that Obama 2012 wasn't the standard for us. The midterms showed that and we are going to keep building on our successes."

The DNC's postelection review has parallels to a postmortem that Republicans conducted after Mitt Romney was defeated by Obama in the 2012 presidential election.

The report urged Republicans to shift its focus to year-round, on-the-ground political organizing in the states and recommended that the GOP embrace a comprehensive immigration overhaul. That recommendation quickly hit resistance from congressional Republicans who rely on primary voters who oppose creating a path to citizenship for immigrants living illegally in the U.S.

"Our party has a problem," Wasserman Schultz said in a video announcing the project. "We know we're right on the issues. The American people believe in the causes we're fighting for. But the electoral success we have when our presidential nominee is able to make a case to the country as a whole, doesn't translate in other elections. That's why we lost in 2010, and it's why we lost on Tuesday."

Wasserman Schultz said she discussed the need for a review with Obama on election night and both agreed on the need to move forward. She also spoke about her plans Saturday with Rep. Nancy Pelosi of California and Sen. Harry Reid of Nevada, the party's leaders in Congress.

"We need to understand everything that went wrong so that we can address all the potential problems and prepare for future elections," she said.

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3581  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / CERN May Not Have Discovered Higgs Boson After All on: November 09, 2014, 08:18:09 AM
CERN May Not Have Discovered Higgs Boson After All

November 9, 2014 By Corey Leighton —Leave a Comment

In July of 2012, researchers at CERN announced that the 40 year hunt for the elusive Higgs boson may have come to an end.  The announcement made headlines around the world, and particle physicists considered it a critical discovery to be one of the first of many from the lab’s famous Large Hadron Collider.  But scientists at the University of Southern Denmark’s Center for Cosmology and Particle Physics Phenomenology are now casting doubt, saying that the detected particle may not be the elusive Higgs boson after all.

The Higgs boson is one of the key building blocks of the Standard Model of particle physics.  The standard model attempts to explain the electromagnetic, weak, and strong nuclear forces, and the Higgs boson is a critical piece of the puzzle.  Its discovery would lead the way to understanding the Higgs field, which, in turn, would explain how everything we see around us has mass.  So, the announcement from CERN that it had been detected was received with much fanfare… excitement which might now be premature.

“The current data is not precise enough to determine exactly what the particle is,” says university researcher Mads Toudal Frandsen. “It could be a number of other known particles.”
Frandsen’s team now suggests that the detected particle may not only not be a Higgs boson, but it could be a ‘techni-higgs’ particle which would  support a set of theories that are beyond the standard model known as ‘Technicolor”.

“A techni-higgs particle is not an elementary particle. Instead, it consists of so-called techni-quarks, which we believe are elementary,” he says.

“Techni-quarks may bind together in various ways to form for instance techni-higgs particles, while other combinations may form dark matter. We therefore expect to find several different particles at the LHC, all built by techni-quarks.”

The ultimate verdict most likely likes deep in the heart of the now-dormant LHC, which is currently silent while CERN scientists work to increase the power of the world’s most powerful particle supercollider.  CERN hopes to have the LHC back online in early 2015.

Source: Tech Times

3582  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: November 09, 2014, 08:06:12 AM
"A Clinton candidacy make sense if, but only if, in 24 months voters will be thinking: Let’s have a third Obama term."

Having served as SoS may have not been a smart move in retrospect for her.  While it was supposed to give her the additional line on her resume that gives her more of a "dubious promise of experience and competence" it will closely tie her to Obama.  This may have been a strategic political gamble that now looks like a huge blunder.

Suppose she sat out the last 6 and next 2 years.  She could have been the ambassador for the Clinton Foundation instead (also dubious as to it's real intent) and she would have been able to avoid being tied to Obama.

Will sometimes has some great writings.  I used to agree with him maybe 80% of the time but now I think somewhat less.  I like this article too but I am a bit confused by it and not entirely clear what he means

I am not sure what he says about Hillary's liberalism on the political spectrum meter.  Is he saying she is not as liberal as Obama and the far left
base of the party?  I think she certainly is but she knows that is a political  loser so she like Bill feint to  a more "moderate" position more to towards the center.   

If she is not liberal enough (again I think she is) than why would she be an Obama 3rd term?    Not that I disagree with him but just there is a bit of inconsistency in what he is saying. 

In any case she is already desperately trying to separate herself from the one on foreign policy.   So far I don't think she has even tried on domestic policy.   

3583  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / General Patton and Jews on: November 09, 2014, 12:16:13 AM
Just finished "Killing Patton" and thought it was a great read.  One review I found online by Richard Cohen lambasted O'Reilly for not mentioning that Patton could have been anti semitic.  I found this article discussing a somewhat complicated tangle about this:
3584  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Russia/west relationship IS reset on: November 06, 2014, 11:23:57 AM
3585  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / This astute analyst realized Hillary won the 2014 election on: November 06, 2014, 08:10:49 AM
Twisting, contorting, illogical "logic", stretching the truth, word games (what is is?) should make this guy a great candidate for a job with the Clintons:
3586  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces on: November 06, 2014, 08:05:22 AM
"Obama won’t just have to fight Republicans for the next two years. He’ll also have to fight Democrats."

The right's analogy to this could be the Tea Party vs the  Republican McConnell/Bush crowd.

Maybe like a Marc Levin vs a Jeb Bush or a Boehner.

3587  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Race, religion, ethnic origin, LGBT, "discrimination", & discrimination. on: November 05, 2014, 10:42:19 PM

This is nuts.  You mean this kid did not rob and manhandle a smaller Indian store clerk than attack a police officer who asked him to not walk in the middle of the road.  I suppose the police officer pulled him into the car through the door window to attack him.

Why do we have to put up with this?

****Greatest show on Earth? 5 agencies to meet Michael Brown's parents

Prior to pleading case to U.N. Committee Against Torture

Published: 2 hours ago

By Jerome Corsi and Curtis Ellis

NEW YORK – The parents of Michael Brown will meet with about 20 representatives of the Obama administration in Geneva, Switzerland, before pleading their case to the United Nations Committee Against Torture, according to the director of the nonprofit group organizing their trip.

Ejim Dike, executive director of the U.S. Human Rights Network, told WND that Michael Brown Sr. and Lesley McSpadden – the parents of the black teen who was killed in a confrontation in August with a white police offer in Ferguson, Missouri – will meet Nov. 11 in Geneva with the U.S. officials.

The parents, who demand the immediate arrest of Officer Darren Wilson, say their “goal is not only to achieve justice in Ferguson, but to unite governments around the world against the human rights violations that result from racial profiling and police violence.”

The officials, who also will be in Geneva to speak to the U.N. Committee Against Torture, Dike said, are from the U.S. Department of Justice, Department of Education, Department of Homeland Security, Department of Defense and the State Department.

After meeting the U.S. officials, Brown’s parents will address the 53rd Session of the United Nations Committee Against Torture, Nov. 12 and 13.

At issue is U.S. compliance with the U.N. Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, which was passed by the U.N. in 1984 and ratified by the U.S. in 1994.

The parents’ U.N. invitation is the result of a 13-page position paper written by Saint Louis University Law School assistant professor Justin Hansford with the support of  left-leaning advocacy groups, Hands Up United, the Organization for Black Struggle and Missourians Organizing for Reform and Empowerment.

The U.N. panel, Dike told WND, realizes “the issue of gun violence and police violence especially directed at black and brown people in this country is really a grave human rights concern.”

The committee consists of so-called independent legal experts from countries such as the Republic of Georgia and communist China. The panel’s two members from the U.S. have recused themselves from hearing the case.

Hansford’s paper characterizes the Aug. 9 shooting in Ferguson as the murder by a white police officer of an innocent black youth who had his arms raised in an attempt to surrender.

However, the findings of the grand jury considering whether or not Wilson should be prosecuted have leaked out, and they indicate the officer was acting in self-defense and won’t be charged.

The U.S. already has been reviewed twice this year for alleged noncompliance with U.N. treaties on civil and political rights and the elimination of racial discrimination. The mother of Trayvon Martin, the black teen killed by a neighborhood watchman in Florida, and the father of Jordan Davis, a Florida black teen fatally shot over loud music, participated in the reviews in August.

Hansford’s position paper calls among other things for the arrest of Wilson for the alleged murder of their son, the resignation of Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson and an apology from Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon for alleged intimidation and excessive police force against those seeking to protest the Brown shooting.

The document further calls on the U.N. to demand that Attorney General Eric Holder and the Department of Justice conduct “a nationwide investigation of systematic police brutality and harassment in brown and black communities, and youth in particular.”

A website,, makes available the Hansford report and accepts donations to defray the costs of the trip to Geneva.

As WND columnist Jack Cashill has noted, the leaks of grand jury findings appear to be an attempt by the Justice Department to prepare the public for the likelihood that Wilson will not be charged in Brown’s death.

An Oct. 17 New York Times story, for example, shows Wilson’s version of events inside the officer’s vehicle lines up with the forensic evidence.

As Wilson told the story, Brown reached for the gun, and it was fired twice, with one shot striking Brown on the hand. In the scuffle, Brown “punched and scratched [Wilson] repeatedly.”

Forensic tests meanwhile showed Brown’s blood on the gun, on Wilson’s clothes and on the interior door panel.

The autopsy also indicated Brown did not have his hand’s up in surrender, discrediting a crucial claim that became a central theme of protesters.

3588  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The US Congress; Congressional races on: November 05, 2014, 02:14:18 PM
"Nice to see such an epic asskicking"

God, yeah!  grin

If Brown won in NH and REpubs won governorship in Pa it would have been perfect.

But Repubs have massive work to do to save this country as we all know.

Unfortunately, the last person who will "get it" is the one with the massive personality DISORDER.  He is incapable of comprehending that it is HIM that has caused all this.  It is his pathologic nature to blame everyone else.  Not just political gamesmanship but a true disorder personality.  And the Dem party will do the opposite - blame him the messenger and guard the liberalism message with their own flesh, blood, and everyone's else's tax money.

1) I would be surprised if we don't get unilateral amnesty - unless (and quite possible) the Cans are stupid enough to make an appeasement deal with him on immigration reform that basically grants amnesty anyway.

2) The Dems are already all over the map blaming the "messenger" Obama but not the message as we knew would happen. 

3) It will be all Hillary now.  Did anyone see the breakdown of babe votes for Democrats/Repubs vs guy votes by party.

    There will be a war on babes onslaught.  Repubs will have to have a good female candidate IMHO.  Minority ones too. They are making some headway it seems.

3589  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Corruption, and Treason on: November 04, 2014, 07:48:43 PM
I would like to know how he "could help you in other ways".

"I know how this works".

So how does it work at the IRS.  This guy should be water boarded till he explains.
3590  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The war on the rule of law on: November 02, 2014, 11:16:57 AM
Could a motivated Justice Department go after DNC operative encouragement of illegal voter fraud be possible.  Of course not one under Obama, but what about one under a Republican President?   IS this even possible amid reports on Drudge that Boehner can't even get a law firm to bring the case against Obama because of Democrat retribution against any lawyer who does this?:

Wasserman-Schultz, DNC hire army of lawyers to challenge election results
November 2, 2014  8:21 AM MST   Wasserman-Schultz is already preparing to do battle with GOP winners on Election Day.

The Democratic National Committee (DNC), led by its hard hitting and verbose chairwoman, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, has hundreds of attorneys on retainer in order to fight the results of Tuesday's elections if things don't go their way, according a number of news stories on Sunday.

Voter identification laws appear to be the primary point of contention, with Republicans supporting the law and the Democrats opposing them. The DNC continues to use its "get out the vote" tactics while making allegations that the GOP is trying to "disenfranchise" minority voters, some of whom were proven to have been bused in from other districts or even states.

"These verbal tactics are beginning to become shopworn and bring to mind the words attributed to the father of Communism, Karl Marx: 'Accuse other of what you do.' If anything, it's the Republican National Committee officials who should hire a million lawyers and private detectives to launch investigations into alleged voting irregularities," said former police detective and corporate fraud investigator.

While the Democrats claim voter fraud -- especially voting by illegal aliens of 'green card' immigrants -- is a figment of the Republicans' imaginations, regardless of the studies that show illegal aliens indeed do register to vote and that the Democrats know it.

In one study, reported in an Examiner news story, it was shown that illegal aliens voting is not a "figment" of the GOP's imagination:

"The CCES is an esteemed and highly respected operation at Harvard University that recently published shocking information, gathered from big social science survey datasets, that supports Judicial Watch’s work in this area. In 2012 JW launched the Election Integrity Project, a widespread legal campaign to clean up voter registration rolls and support election integrity measures across the country. Our investigations immediately uncovered data that proved voter rolls in a number of states—including Mississippi, Iowa, Indiana, Missouri, Texas, Florida, California and Colorado—contained the names of individuals who are ineligible to vote."

While the DNC will deny it encourages illegal voting, a perfect example occurred during a congressional race in California between Democrat Francine Busby and Republican Brian Bilbray: Busby was heard on a tape recorder telling a room full of Latino illegal and legal immigrants that they didn't need "papers" -- meaning identification -- to vote. At the time Busby led in the polls, but once talk radio shows across the nation played the recording, the GOP's Bilbray decisively beat her on election day.

"A study released by the conservative think-tank the Heritage Foundation provides proof that illegal aliens and immigrants with green cards are committing rampant voter fraud in the United States. This is the reason that Democrats have supported "motor voter" legislation, to make it easier for voter fraud to occur, and why they have opposed voter IDs all of the way to the Supreme Court (where they lost in a suit against Indiana)," said Ted Lawrence, a political pollster and attorney.

While the mainstream news media are beginning to cover the story of rampant voter fraud perpetrated by liberal organizations such as ACORN, don't expect reporters to provide anymore than a passing interest in preventing illegal aliens -- or even legal immigrants -- from voting.
3591  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / OPEC maintaining supply at least for now on: November 02, 2014, 10:00:53 AM
3592  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of the left on: November 02, 2014, 09:47:26 AM
What happened to the woman's "right to choose"?   Another example of Obama's war on freedom.
3593  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / S.1881, the “Nuclear Weapon Free Iran Act of 2013,” on: November 02, 2014, 09:43:12 AM

I tried to look up more information concerning this bill.  Different takes come up with MUCH confusing reports of political jockeying involved.  Interesting to note that Senator Bob Menendez D NJ co-sponsored this since he is normally a big liberal.  One site implies that this is because he accepts  political donations  from "Jewish" donors.  Another site points out the AIPAC completely changed course in first backing the bill than being against it.  As for the 13 Jewish Senators it sounds around  four (?) were against the bill including Levin and Feinstein.   Others like Bennett and Schumer and Blumenthal were supporters.

I am really not clear what the rush by Obama is to get some sort of "deal" with Iran is all about if the deal means caving in to most of Iran's demands.

The thought of a sponsor of Terror being able to make nuclear weapons.

3594  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Marriage and Family on: October 31, 2014, 06:40:27 PM
I once had a woman in her late 20s  in the office.  Now on ObamaCare.   Her Grandmother was married to a man who left her G-mother at a young age.
Her father left her mother at a very young age.  She now has 3 children all with three separate fathers and is married to none of them.

She has a barbell through her tongue, multiple tattoos, and wanted pain meds for some back pain and naturally has money to smoke cigarettes though unemployed.

Folks these are all choices these people make. 

I don't feel sorry for her one bit.  I do feel sorry for her kids.  Why do the rest of us have to be saps?
3595  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc. on: October 31, 2014, 02:51:32 PM

Why can not a case be built up against the DNC for encouraging voter fraud?

They should be held responsible for a lot of this.

Why cannot they be sued for damages?  We know there people are all over the country pushing fraud - why - because so far they know they can get away with it.
3596  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Bill O'Reilly's comments on: October 31, 2014, 07:30:26 AM
Well these views by Bill are hardly disgusting as this writer would like us believe but I would certainly say they are clumsy and do highlight a problem with those on the right having some sort of problem speaking to or about minorities without sounding foolish.  I don't know why many on the right have such a hard time with this topic:

Fox News host makes disgustingly racist comments about African Americans
Fox News host Bill O'Reilly makes racist comments about African American voters.

The 2014 midterm elections are only days away and most polls predict that Republicans will pick up seats in both the House and the Senate. While the general consensus is that Republicans could very well win enough seats to gain the majority in the Senate, one Fox News host thinks that it won't be with help from many African Americans.

When President Obama defeated Republican challenger Mitt Romney to win reelection in 2012, he was able to secure 93 percent of the black vote. That advantage helped propel Obama to a second term in the White House and left Republicans scrambling back to the drawing board. Only two years later and Obama is sitting on his lowest approval rating of his presidency, a very unimpressive 39 percent, and the administration is reportedly privately worried about a dangerously low turn out among black voters and other minorities.

The issue of race in politics was discussed on the October 30 edition of "The O'Reilly Factor" on Fox News. Host Bill O'Reilly welcomed Tavis Smiley, African American host of "Tavis Smiley" on PBS, to discuss how Republicans and Democrats both handle the courting of African Americans and the black vote. O'Reilly insisted that Republicans care about African Americans, but just appear as if they don't because "they’re more intimidated than uncaring.” Smiley questioned what they were intimidated by, asking "are black folks scary?” O'Reilly quickly responded, stating "no, no," insisting that "the white Republican power structure is afraid of black Americans.”

“They don’t know how to treat them, how to speak to them, they don’t know anything about the culture, and they don’t want to be called a racist bigot, so they stay away."

O'Reilly told Smiley that Republicans don't care enough to put the effort in, knowing that they won't receive many votes in return. Smiley said that Democrats take for granted the support they receive from the African American community, but that Republicans are viewed in a negative light. O'Reilly stated that "white privilege" had nothing to do with the struggles of African Americans communities, rather blaming the “disintegration” of individual black families for their own problems.

This isn't the first time that O' Reilly has made controversial comments dealing with race and "white privilege." Earlier this month, O'Reilly and Jon Stewart had a heated discussion on the topic that brought the issue into the main stream. While Republicans are not expected to move the meter on the black vote, Democrats are starting to see their firm grasp loosen. Politico pointed out in an October 30 article that Democrats are using the recent shooting deaths of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, and Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Florida, as highlights in multiple radio and campaign flyers in an attempt to bring out the black vote for next week's midterm elections
3597  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc. on: October 31, 2014, 07:12:26 AM
"felony treason I am thinking, punishable by capital punishment with mandatory deportation of the remains if the offender is found to be here illegally."

How about this:  send them to ISIS as hostage meat.  They want to live lawlessly then enjoy your time spent with them.   wink
3598  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Anti-semitism & Jews on: October 31, 2014, 07:09:57 AM
"Requests by the Jewish Federation of Greater Pittsburgh to include a pro-Israel, or mainstream, perspective were rejected by Conflict Kitchen’s Jewish co-director, Jon Rubin, an associate professor in the School of Art at Carnegie Mellon University"

An Israel hating Jew?  Sounds like liberal Americans who hate America.

I wonder how much he gets paid from the Conflict Kitchen.   

Lets play the liberal game.  Everyone should be advised to boycott this place.  There will be few Arabs who show up and no one else.

No Christians, no Jews, no Hindus etc.
3599  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Is there any way to sue Democrat operatives for voter fraud? on: October 30, 2014, 11:53:55 AM
Lets see.  I don't suppose one reason the Dems are saturating illegals in many states is to get them registered to vote is it?

October 30, 2014 10:00 AM
Non-Citizens Are Voting
James O’Keefe documents the problem in North Carolina, where the Senate race is close. By John Fund

John Fund  Could non-citizen voting be a problem in next week’s elections, and perhaps even swing some very close elections?

A new study by two Old Dominion University professors, based on survey data from the Cooperative Congressional Election Study, indicated that 6.4 percent of all non-citizens voted illegally in the 2008 presidential election, and 2.2 percent in the 2010 midterms. Given that 80 percent of non-citizens lean Democratic, they cite Al Franken ’s 312-vote win in the 2008 Minnesota U.S. Senate race as one likely tipped by non-citizen voting. As a senator, Franken cast the 60th vote needed to make Obamacare law.

North Carolina features one of the closest Senate races in the country this year, between Democratic incumbent Kay Hagan and Republican Thom Tillis. So what guerrilla filmmaker James O’Keefe, the man who has uncovered voter irregularities in states ranging from Colorado to New Hampshire, has learned in North Carolina is disturbing. This month, North Carolina officials found at least 145 illegal aliens, still in the country thanks to the Obama administration’s Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, registered to vote. Hundreds of other non-citizens may be on the rolls.

A voter-registration card is routinely issued without any identification check, and undocumented workers can use it for many purposes, including obtaining a driver’s license and qualifying for a job. And if a non-citizen has a voter-registration card, there are plenty of campaign operatives who will encourage him or her to vote illegally.

O’Keefe had a Brazilian-born immigrant investigator pose as someone who wanted to vote but was not a citizen. Greg Amick, the campaign manager for the Democrat running for sheriff in Mecklenburg County (Charlotte), was only too happy to help.

Greg Amick: Here’s a couple of things you can do. You do not have to have your driver’s license, but do you have any sort of identification?

Project Veritas investigator: But I do have my driver’s license.

Amick: Oh, you do. Show ’em that and you’re good.

PV: But the only problem, you know, I don’t want to vote if I’m not legal. I think that’s going to be a problem. I’m not sure.

Amick: It won’t be, it shouldn’t be an issue at all.

PV: No?

Amick: As long as you are registered to vote, you’ll be fine.

But North Carolina officials shouldn’t be “fine” with Amick, who appears to be afoul of a state law making it a felony “for any person, knowing that a person is not a citizen of the United States, to instruct or coerce that person to register to vote or to vote.”

3600  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces on: October 30, 2014, 11:40:17 AM

You and I both know that overall trickle down will work better than trickle up.  Yet the widened gap between rich and poor does give the enemy ammo that enriching bankers while everyone in the middle stagnates and those at the bottom do worse as a counterargument.

I still think the right has to do better with the concept of leveling the playing field.

As one who is a big victim of those without scruples and with access to influence and money I know full well how hard work and talent can be thwarted and robbed.

That said one idea the concept of leveling taxes to a falt rate.  I prefer one rate for everyone without deductions including all economic rungs.  Since the left will seize upon this to say this hurts the poor the most I would be willing to compromise for two rates.  Not a zero one but a lower and a higher one.

Republicans can do more to reach out to minorities and promoting them to positions of political power within our party (as obviously they are doing).

Would a minority rather be a member that promotes the welfare state or a member that promotes everyone has chances and opportunity to share in the American Dream.

Of course these are only a sampling of ideas (surely not new).

It would be highly ironic if the first Black President germinated the first real minority movement away from the Democrat party.  That is from within the urban areas and not just religious minorities.

In '08 Obama stated the way we were was not working.  Instead many are (finally) waking up to the fact this his way is the old way and already proven wrong.
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