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3651  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues on: May 03, 2013, 07:17:05 PM
Crafty , I agree with you ; it is that simple.  To clarify what I meant about Ronald Reagan in my last post;

The issues with Reagan  are:

1) that spending also skyrocketed during his administration.  He seemed to have no problem signing the Democrat big spending bills. 

2) RR also apparently trusted (without verifying) that the borders would be sealed.   Never trust a Democrat.   They will always come back to squeeze more.  OTOH perhaps many Republicans didn't push for border control either playing favor for their farmer constituents (cheap labor doing the back breaking field work).

3) RR said and did nothing while the savings and loan disaster hemorrhaged money.  Then that amount of money seemed like an unbelievable amount .  Today it is pocket change.

Fast forward to today.

I guess Rove et. al. believe the best course of action is to go along with amnesty then move forward trying to win the hearts and minds of these newly legal illegals.  Fat chance they have of competing with cold hard taxpayer cash endlessly offered by the Dem party to buy these off these new voters.

I guess I don't have a better answer as Doug once asked on this thread. 

Until a crash bangs people over the head that the party spending taxpayer money is over.
3652  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Rubio responds on: May 03, 2013, 09:28:26 AM
With the most cynical view possible.  However,  I have posted I think the same thing.  Obama WILL grant amnesty. 
Based on this view he is probably correct.  We have little choice.  Again the readily apparent the precedent Ronald Reagan set was a disaster in the making.  In a way he was/is overrated.   

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/rubio-pitch-conservatives-immigration-reform-don-t-act-140103261.html
3653  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues on: May 03, 2013, 08:57:44 AM
"All indications are that Obama, Schumer, Durbin, Pelosi et al want an issue for 2014, not a solution in 2013.  That makes the GOP negotiating strategy harder, if not impossible.  MHO."

Doug,

You could be right.  I admit conservatives appear to be nearly surrounded on this issue.   I don't here them making a good case that the issue is not racial though.  Every time the issue is brought up it is all about the Spanish.  It is not.  We have I read estimates of 50 K Irish in NY here illegally.  Does anyone in NJ think all these Asians many of whom work in the back of the thousands of Chinese restaurants are all legal?  And to be politically correct (I am Jewish after all) perhaps some of the Israelis are not legal that I meet. 


I don't hear enough people saying it is not about race or country of origin.  It is about the right of the US citizens being able to decide how many people get here and their qualifications based on clean law enforcement records, demonstration ethical work behavior, or some work skill, maybe not ten dependent children ready to apply for food stamps and welfare etc. 

Just wondering.  If brock grants amnesty to the illegals will they have the right to vote?   If yes, then I would shocked if he doesn't do it.

Listening to talk radio a lot on the right are outraged over Rubio.  I am more forgiving.  But one thing recent history has taught us - never ever trust a Democrat politician.

How in the world can one make a deal with any of the above four names?  They have NO honor.  They are all demonstrated serial pathologic liars.  I don't understand why honesty is not a job requirement for Senators and Presidents.  Everything I was taught growing up about this is turned inside out.   Where did this get lost?

3654  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / propaganda on: May 02, 2013, 12:07:14 PM
I am not sure if this is a legitimate topic or not.  I guess this could go under political rants.   At a time where out country is divided. This book review from the Economist is perhaps a timely reminder that politics has always been a fight for the hearts, minds, and votes and often pocketbooks of voters - in a Democracy or Republic. 

The biggest problem is sorting out "propaganda" from truth.  If it is truth is it propaganda?  And one person's truth can be considered another's propaganda muddling it all even further.   Michael Savage correctly calls David Axelrod a political genius for using propaganda to its max.   I am thinking that the difference between him and Rove is Axelrod's willingness and to be more ruthless, with little concern for truth and transparency.

Some would argue (wrongly in my view) that Rove is just the other side of the same coin.  But I take the position of radio host Aaron Klein who argues the biggest threat to the US is not China, not Jihad, but the leftist movement from within. 

In any case, back to "propaganda":

http://www.economist.com/news/books-and-arts/21576641-fine-account-bloody-early-battle-shots-heard-round-world
3655  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Some thoughts on: May 02, 2013, 10:42:40 AM
" If there is no path ever, the issue remains front and center forever."

mea culpa?

I see it differently.  We "compromise" now only to continue having to go on defensive again.

The moderate Republican (rhino) keeps compromising thinking that will ease the relentless progressive march.  Instead it allows their political movement to step forward plant there footing down from a new more strategically "forward" position from which they will continue their campaign to press towards the end game.  One world government in charge and in control of the world.   Until Republicans can get the low information voters to understand they are giving away our freedom I  would have to agree with Marc Levin - we stand and hold our ground.  I f I believed the Repubs present leaders truly believed we take a temporary defensive fall back position so we can come back and fight another day (perhaps many years from now) then I might reluctantly support them.  I really don't have that kind of faith or confidence of the insightfulness of the Bushes, Roves and the Boehners.  I used to be more moderate until it hit me like a sledgehammer during a Jeff Sachs speech at my nephews graduation at Lehigh some yrs ago about which I posted my experience here. 

Just as shocking was the fact that my nephew and his two brothers didn't even think it was a political speech.  ONe even worked for Romney.  He now works for Bobby Jindal.   It appears the young generation is being duped.  They are too young and at this time perhaps too idealistic.  Perhaps also bribed for loans and "free" health care to age 26.  Wait till they get older and they themselves have to pay for this care Have to deal with high taxation, sit and watch benefits fly from their wallets to a larger and expanding segment of the population.  Wait till the reality hits them the progressive movement wants to transfer their freedom and their money to the world.  That is the end game.  People on the board know it.  But these youngsters appear ignorant of what is going on.  History repeats itself because the generations over time forget.  Humanity keeps reclycling.

We give in now to the "11" million illegals, then swallow up their families -  I say the compromise has to come from eliminating almost all government benefits - not just to them but to us here. 

We can't just keep giving out endless dollars.  And yes the rest of us WILL have to work to 70 before expecting SS. 

I am hopeful.  The progressives cannot continue this forever before there is a huge wake up call.  I don't know if it will take a crash.  And in any case what arises from the rubble of such a crash is unclear.  Certainly the Bushes and Roves and Boehners don't have a vision.   They are detail men.  I don't think they have a real plan for us.   A back peddling defensive position on the Spanish vote won't work .  The Democrats will just keep up the drive to buy them out with more benefits. 
3656  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Slave uprisings on: May 01, 2013, 11:32:11 AM
And betrayel..... a subject I have become expert in:

http://www.theroot.com/views/were-there-slaves-stephen-django
3657  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Housing/Mortgage/Real Estate on: May 01, 2013, 11:18:29 AM
right up Brock's socialist alley.
3658  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / GM losing money on E cars on: May 01, 2013, 11:15:34 AM
I put this under government programs.   I notice a lot of liberal media blowback about gasoil potential (through fracking) in the form of recent articles about the "huge" potential of electric cars, methane, biofuels, wind and still with the solar.

****GM Still Taking Taxpayers for a Ride

By Rich Duprey  | More Articles  | Save For Later     
May 1, 2013 | Comments (9) 


Last September when Reuters calculated that General Motors (NYSE: GM  ) was losing almost $50,000 on every Chevy Volt it sold the carmaker was apoplectic with indignation at the "grossly wrong" numbers being thrown around. Sure they were losing money, every new technological advance does, but as they built more cars and then released Volt 2.0 they would become profitable.

Well, GM has certainly built more Volts over the last six months or so and they've even sold a few more, too, but then so has Tesla Motors (NASDAQ: TSLA  ) and Nissan (NASDAQOTH: NSANY  ) . In fact Tesla sold more of its all-electric Model S cars in the first quarter of the year than GM did with its Volt, and Nissan turned itself around enough so that its LEAF outsold the Volt in March.

We'll get the April sales numbers in a day or so to see if any traction has been made as spring has gotten under way, and if GM was able to recover from March sales plunging 35%. One thing hasn't changed month to month and that is that the Volt is still a money-losing proposition for GM and for the taxpayers who bailed it out.

In a presentation yesterday, CEO Dan Akerson admitted GM is still losing money on every Volt sold and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. So what's the solution? Not to admit defeat, that's for sure, at least certainly not when the taxpayer is still nominally footing the bill for your company. Nope, what you do is double down and say you're going to make even more of your money-losing cars than you did before and you're going to make them even cheaper than they are now!

Akerson didn't say how much GM was losing on each Volt, but he did say that if it ever hoped to make a profit on them the carmaker would need to cut as much as $10,000 from the cost of production. That, however, won't be happening until the next-gen model is introduced, which won't be until 2015 or 2016 at the earliest.

The already heavily subsidized Volt starts at less than $40,000 before a $7,500 tax credit kicks in. Last year the Congressional Budget Office estimated that the government's efforts to foist electric vehicles on a public that doesn't really want them will cost taxpayers $7.5 billion through 2019, including grants of $2.4 billion to lithium-ion-battery makers (you know, like bankrupt A123 Systems and Ener1). So how GM will be able to take that much cost out of building the Volt without eliminating any of its features is anyone's guess.

Despite generous rebates, ridiculously low leasing offers, and using fleet sales to juice monthly sales numbers the Volt remains rather unpopular among the car-buying public. In the meantime, though, taxpayers can enjoy the ride GM is taking them on.


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3659  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Health Thread (nutrition, medical, longevity, etc) on: April 28, 2013, 10:43:13 PM
Agreed but I am not clear who is the winner(s).  I am afraid I have NEVER made money in an health stock.  I lost in corixa.  I lost with inhaled insulin.  Biomira. Pain therapeutics.
I read vivus drug was great for weight loss and almost bought at ten only to chicken out and a few days later it doubled when drug approved. 

Gilead sounds good but the train has left the station it seems.  I watched Sanofi fall to low 30's after its Plavix patent expired thinking it was a good buy.  I was right .  It is now in 50s.  Of course I didn't buy it. cry
3660  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / hepatitis C on: April 28, 2013, 03:17:15 PM
twenty five years ago hepatitis C wasn't even discovered.  We used to call it non-AnonB hepatitis and we used to infer a person was infected from the abnormal liver tests.  Since then we have discovered and characterized the virus produced a test to find if a person is infected and developed marginally good albeit getting better treatments.   Soon it will be curable or long term controllable like HIV.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/23/hepatitis-c-treatment-cures-abbvie_n_3139989.html

If only we had treatments for the common cold.
3661  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: April 28, 2013, 03:01:30 PM
The new health care law mandates that primary care doctors who accept Medicaid patients are guaranteed to be paid the Medicare rates for 2013 and 2014.  After that probably the states will be squeezed as we will be though the Politburo is silent at this time.

I signed up and just got credentialed.   I thought I was all set.  Usually when one signs on to a health plan there is a dozen or so pages of "rules".

Then I was sent the rules regarding Medicaid in NJ.  It is a good size box with what looks like hundreds of pages of regulations and rules and Lord knows what else.   Additionally our office was recently informed it will months before we see any money regardless.
3662  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / This bacteria is highly resistant to all known antibiotics on: April 27, 2013, 12:48:00 PM
Another health threat.

It is still contained but if it gets into community settings like MSRA has there will be big problems.  No antibiotics are consistently effective for this and the death rate is reported at 50%.  I've read the development of new antibiotics are several years away at least.   

http://www.cdc.gov/HAI/organisms/cre/
3663  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Economist - time for Supreme Court to scrap affirmative action on: April 27, 2013, 12:36:25 PM
Damn - just when I was about to become a minority as a white man.  After 10 of millions of illegals are granted amnesty.  Why stop at 33 million amnesties?  Why not simply replace the ENTIRE work force of the United Staes with poorer people from around the world who would love to come here work harder for less?  But I digress:

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21576662-governments-should-be-colour-blind-time-scrap-affirmative-action
3664  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / white house "media" celebrity show on: April 27, 2013, 12:28:08 PM
Anyone else here find the White House correspondents dinner is a disgusting show of corruption in Washington?  Is there ever going to be a President who will be above this and refuse to show up?  Or are they all afraid of media blowback?

http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2013/04/27/white-house-correspondents-dinner-is-a-disgrace-to-the-news-media/comment-page-1/
3665  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / change your membership on: April 17, 2013, 04:50:23 PM
Ms Grossman, may I suggest you get rid of Ms mag and join this group:

http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/2011/04/title-ix-sexual-assault-directive-has.html
3666  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: April 13, 2013, 09:40:04 PM
I wonder if brother David is also a decorated war veteran like his brother who according to Marc Levin is asking for campaign donations to fight for the gun control in the memory of the Conneticut massacre.
3667  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / The Blumenthal brothers - like Emanuals - brothers politburo supremo on: April 13, 2013, 09:33:52 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/richard_Blumenthal

I only recently realized that David is this guy's brother.  Another politician health care politburo brother duo like the Emanuels.
3668  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: US Economics, the stock market , and other investment/savings strategies on: March 28, 2013, 12:03:39 PM
Well I have no idea what Mort Zuckerman is talking about that foreigners coming here for education are not staying her.

Here in NJ the entire health field, technology IT, university system is plumb with people from Asia, and Africa.  So what is he talking about.

These people are hungrier than those of us who are born here.  Except for the children of these foreigners who are often taught the value of extraordinary hard work compared to us who are taught to expect handouts. 

Unfornutately many of these same people who work like demons are also Democrats.  It seems the Asians are thus since after the civil rights acts of the 60's.  While many believe in work ethic they also believe they have been wronged by the Whites, I guess.

And many do come from countries where votes are bought like the Crats do here.

Combine that with a Republican party that apparently protects labor coming here because this helps keep wages down and we have a perfect storm.


3669  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Fascism, liberal fascism, progressivism, socialism: on: March 26, 2013, 05:53:06 PM
One correction "sin"-- this has had bad consequences for public health (Aids ...)

Whoa!  I didn't know sexual "deregulation" [gays] transmitted AIDS - I thought Ronald Reagan did.
3670  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Emanuel on: March 26, 2013, 05:46:23 PM
BTW:

He just happens to have a book about three "remarkable" brothers:

www.economist.com/news/books-and-at/21573953-raising-three-remarkable-children-brother-sarms
3671  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: March 26, 2013, 05:41:59 PM
Follow up to previous post.  Went to meeting of the New Jersey american college of physicians few weeks ago and listened to Ezekiel's talk.

Basically he starts with a bunch of charts and graphs describing what we all know - health care costs are going up and are unsustainable.

His prescription is basically for provider groups to form and control costs by monitoring what they do "outcomes" and basically what managed care has been doing for decades now.   I guess the difference is really now the politburo types are requiring we do it on industrial scale with industrial level quality control with reems of data, measurements, more data of the data more measurements and every penny counted.  He gave one example from a gourp of several hundred physcians Caremont though I don't remember where they are located and I haven't looked into it - yet.

Supposedly they cut costs while increasing the bottom line.  Thus this is a model for all.

He also explains the cost rising is down form over 2% to around 0.8%.  Of course he is suggesting he and the rest of the politburo are responsible for cost savings - not that the economy is so bad for most people they can't aford their co pays their deductables their premiums and neither can as many employers.

I only had a chance for one question so I asked him about Clay Christiansens theory that Nurse Practitioners will supplant primary care doctors and it is inevitable and no stopping it.  He said PCP's are not replaceabale by nurses and that he doesn't think that would happen - though we are clearly seeing that trend.

He doesn't believe that there is a doctor shortage.  Indeed I agree with him on that.  There probably is a shortage of a few specialties and doctors in some low income urban areas or in the boondocks but certainly not in the north east and probably the West coast.

Indded if any group feels threateneed by the low wages of illegals /legal immigrants no where is this felt more than in health care.

All we see here are doctors born everywhrere else.  The schools of course also like to play the shortage gimmack so they can get more money to churn more graduates out and the nursing programs the same.

Getting back to Emanuel his personality is the same as his brother Rahm.    He ran out after one question after mine.  I guess he had his next speaking engagement.l
3672  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Media Issues on: March 04, 2013, 09:09:47 PM
I agree Bigdog contributes a lot to the forum.  Hope you stay and continue doing the same.

I apologize if I sounded personal.

This is the media thread so I guess I took my frustration with the MSM here.
3673  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Media Issues on: March 02, 2013, 09:16:16 PM
The purported full context of the email does place the two sentences that sound like threats open to interpretation.
However, I think that the even larger context of Woodward's career, coupled with Davis' assertion he had the exact same concerns that this is not normal behavior coming from WH operatives.   These Washington insiders both perceived this as some sort of threat.   

There are myriad ways to make someone's life miserable without "breaking kneecaps".

It takes a lot of guts to go up against the WH.  It is less plausible to think he made these public statements in order to sell more copies of his book.

Indeed, reading Sperling's long winded comments sound more like a desperate attempt to muzzle Woodward.  And while he is trying hard to make nice to him Sperling slips and out of exasperation advertently or inadvertently makes it clear he ain't just begging Woodward to keep quiet.    He will be sorry.   

Bidog if your not a liberal - I apologize.  If you are, I guess I could have called you worse. .... A Nazi....A Republican.


 
3674  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Woodward obviously beleived this was a threat on: March 02, 2013, 01:02:54 PM
Bigdog,

I don't think that email exchange, if accurate exonerates Sperling and his boss.

Remember.  The GOP operatives did NOT START this.  Woodward did.  He, who is hardly a conservative, who has been a big Washington insider for decades makes it very clear he saw this as a veiled threat.  Than we have Lanny Davis come out publically and make the same case.  And the rumor mill has it that others have also had the same experience.

The left wing political media complex is out in full throttle attacking Woodward.  Like Sperling clearly without mistake as to meaning said, "you will regret" this.

So you and other libs can whitewash it.  I think your post endorses Woodward's case.

In his forty years of reporting and journalism I don't think Woodward has made this case except probably going back to the Nixon era.  He didn't back down than and I doubt he will now.  The difference he was darling of the media then.  Now HE is made the villain.   You can't see the difference?

Or you choose not to?
3675  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Media Issues on: February 28, 2013, 10:06:10 AM
"right"  This comes from the ONE himself.  Time to stop circling wagons by saying, oh it is just some staffer and of course if the ONE new he would put a stop to it immediately.  Maybe it comes from Michelle who we once recall said she was ashamed of our country who now can't seem to get enough wealth glory basking with the celebrities and the circuit.

I wish she would cover her arms and chest more.   Her face is attractive though
3676  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Health Thread (nutrition, medical, longevity, etc) on: February 28, 2013, 10:01:38 AM
Interesting but is clearly political.

First in medicine we don't view epidemiological findings as "proof".  A real scientist would know this.   It generally results to a hypothesis that is then later tested in double blind placebo controlled trials that try to avid the bias this author OBVIOUSLY has.

Second.  Who the heck is PLoS?  It is some sort of scientific "advocacy" group.   Sounds like the climate change crowd.   The same crowd that would like to regulate our daily lives.

I am not aware that this is any legitimate journal.

Third, I don't see any mention of genetic differences between countries.  For example it is well know Latinos and Asians have much higher rates of diabetes even at lower weights.  Could it be partly due high rice and maybe sugar intake - yes.   But there is likely a genetic component as well. 

I would say this study which I have not reviewed, if well done, as claimed, is interesting but nothing more.

Of course, I am sure this pseudoscientist who seems to know how to promote his numbers game as some sort of definitive Earth shattering discovery, would be very pleased to get a couple hundred grand from Axelrod and corp to "study" this further.

I like to call a spade - a spade.
3677  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: US Economics, the stock market , and other investment/savings strategies on: February 28, 2013, 06:20:35 AM
The article stops short of specifically suggesting the best way to invest assuming his thesis is correct that we are more of a stagflation period and not bull market.

3678  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: February 28, 2013, 05:54:10 AM
Doug I appreciate your thoughts.  I am a smaller government guy.  I will let the board know if anything interesting comes up at  the meeting.

Like Steve Forbes and others have said.  Better to recommend stocks then to follow one's own advice. More money to be made that way.

Ezekiel Emanuel must have thought the same thing.  Better to tell the country's health industry what to do rather than have to follow his own advise.  Less painful and certainly he must be making a much bigger bundle.

He is an Emanuel after all.   Another do-gooder who will save us from ourselves.

In April in Atlantic City I see Newt is going to speak about his thoughts on health care.  

Somehow I suspect both will say similar things . The difference will only be who enforces the transformation (rams it down our throats).   The private or public payers?   So far it is both.
3679  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness on: February 28, 2013, 05:47:31 AM
"“I think if Obama himself saw the way they’re dealing with some of this, he would say, ‘Whoa, we don’t tell any reporter ‘you’re going to regret challenging us.’ ”

Yet even after all this Woodward still buckles and gives cover to the ONE.  The same ONE who said "we reward our friends and punish our enemies".   It all sounds like Obama strategy and unwritten policy to me.
Obama's only lament would be the aide made this threat in a verifiable email rather then a "he said she said" verbal conversation.  
3680  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / INteresting take on Calvin Coolidge on: February 28, 2013, 04:25:05 AM
Very politically incorrect.   Liberals would be pissed.   This guy was more Reagan than Reagan:

http://www.economist.com/news/books-and-arts/21572176-americas-30th-president-has-been-much-misunderstood-when-less-led-more
3681  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: February 20, 2013, 11:33:06 PM
Ezekiel Emanuel - one of the politburo's hand chosen IVY members will be a speaker at a meeting I am going to on March 8.

Anyone want me to ask him anything or have comments?

He is the ex oncologist who became a policy politburo member because he thought he could help more patients that way - so I am told.   Another Saint.  I wonder how much he gets to give the speech.  I am sure it is all for charity.
3682  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Way Forward for the American Creed on: February 20, 2013, 11:29:34 PM
The Republicans on the cable shows keep going after Obama.  I think this is off the mark. 
The target is too narrow.  They should not go after him.  They must go after all leaders of the Democrat Party.

I mean Hillary is on deck while she begins a speaking tour just like Bill did for her in 2008 ; a quarter million a pop.

If we focus only on Brock we will miss the rest of the enemy assault.



3683  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / My use of the noun Politburo on: February 20, 2013, 11:23:06 PM
for big government that is controlled by party members in the dem party, and our liberal universities and have unilaterally decided religion, guns, soda, endless taxation, bigger government oversight and intrusion into our lives is a good thing all  the while progressing towards the end goal of total single government domination of all of humanity has been hijacked by
Bob Woodward and misapplied to Karl Rove group.

The only think keeping the liberal politburo in power is the continuously refined calculations on how to bribe just enough coalitions of voters to stay in power.
3684  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The death of the rule of law on: February 04, 2013, 09:15:38 PM
Enough is enough.  Our money is our money.

Stop stealing it from us.

Folks we need a crash.  That is the only thing that will wake up enough people.

The f* mass propaganda media will have to address the corruptness of it all. angry
3685  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues on: February 04, 2013, 09:09:28 PM
The factions on the left or more mobilized than ever.  Surely the illegals are a potential big boon for the Democrat party.

It is interesting how the union leadership has caved for the good of their the other half of their party machine - the democrat party.

Basically cave on immigration throwing all you union members into the garbage can making them have to compete with hungrier more motivated people just to pray you turn these new immigrants into new members thus keeping the union mobsters in charge keeping their power while the rank and file members now get pay cuts just trying to compete.

The Blacks are so in love with the Democrat party machine and so despised of the Republicans that they spite themselves the same way by giving it all away to newer kids on the block.

I guess they are too drunk with new power at the highest levels of a national party they can't see the forest for the trees.

Republicans ought to hit these two themes above very hard.

I say  we teach, we preach, we spell it out front and center.   So what do the republicans have to offer?  A free country where anyone has a chance.  Not one controlled by a politburo of cronies, corrupted politicians, smart aleck academics telling all of us what is good for us.      Who the hell are they to keep shoving it down our throats.

Humanity is not as a whole a god damn machine.    We are people.   I don't want to be told what to do by progressives from birth to death.
3686  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / John Bolton does it on: February 01, 2013, 10:06:20 PM
To my knowledge Mr. Bolton is the first prominent person to say the ONLY way to stop Iran from going nuclear is to use military force.
Sanctions will NOT work.
I think he was on Greta's show around two days ago.
Thank God - someone finally said it!  What we have been saying it on this board for years.
Contrast this to the Hill[billy] - the military option has always (a lie) been "on the table".
3687  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Rest in Peace on: February 01, 2013, 09:54:18 PM
I too was saddened to learn of his death.

He was one of the few Democrats who I truly admired.

3688  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues on: January 31, 2013, 09:23:00 AM
Don't think the immigrants will vote for Rubio.

Maybe some Vietnamese became Republican when they came over on boats but the majority of the rest are all Dems.

The majority of later immigrants and certainly illegals will vote Dem no matter what.

I have not seen any hope this will turn around.  We are an entitlement country/society now.

Only a crash.  Only when the pain is too much.  Only hope.

O'Reilly is right and Krauthammer wrong.   The country has shifted left of center.

IF one cable announcement today is Obama is at 60% approval there IS no other explanation.
3689  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: European matters on: January 31, 2013, 09:11:08 AM
We don't need a separate "European" thread anymore.  Just include into the government programs thread.
3690  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of the left on: January 31, 2013, 09:09:49 AM
I would also add the "right" to retire is guaranteed.

There is no higher service, no greater good, no more honorable thing one could do than to serve in the government.

We are the people of for and by the government. sad
3691  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces on: January 27, 2013, 09:43:24 PM
"This is a chillingly familiar set of grievances; and its recrudescence was foreseen by the Founders. They realized that King George was not an individual case, but the inevitable outcome of unfettered power; that any person or group with the power to tax, to form laws, and to enforce them by arms will default to dictatorship, absent the constant unflagging scrutiny of the governed, and their severe untempered insistence upon compliance with law."

Yes.  I think the Republicans, or at least the Conservative ones are evolving their message that I hope will resonate with more people than those of us already in the choir.  (I am a convert! grin)

While the left tries to point to the private sector rich and powerful (unless one is a liberal Democrat - they get a "pass"; like Hollywood; like Buffett) we can point to Washington DC.   Rush pointed this out the other day as I posted.  Hannity who I admittedly shied away from for being too "unobjective" if you will, did a great show this weekend on Fox.  The richest county in the US is DC.  Seven of the top richest counties in the entire country are surrounding DC.   Multiple members of the Houses have family members getting rich as lobbyists.   

IF anyone has driven around DC knows there are a lot of slums.  So the fact that it is still the richest county in the US says a lot.  (Actually is DC really a county?)

Maybe the Repubs can have some success at turning the !% argument against the left with the corruption of the ruling government elite
3692  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: January 27, 2013, 09:34:12 PM
Maybe take his brothers back to Israel.   They all live, thrive and are successful capitalists.    That is good.   They are all liberal socialists in political philosophy.  That for me is bad.   Is it all a ruse?  A way to get rich?  Reminds me some of AlGOre...

http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/people/brothers-rahm-emanuel-and-his-family/
3693  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Health Thread (nutrition, medical, longevity, etc) on: January 27, 2013, 09:17:09 PM
Hi Doug,

Yes.  The paradox and twisted logic for political correctness.    Saying that we should live like vegetarians,  walk or bike ride to work, take yoga, avoid sugars, fats, alcohol (except maybe that one red wine at night) sounds wonderful.  Some of us may even add a few years to our lives.  Yet the reality is that there will be more people living longer on SS and the entitlements share of the pie will expand even more.

OTOH if we can keep older people healthy in a way they can move around and continue to perform cognitively as well as physically and keep them working or volunteering longer they would become a vital store of experience wisdom and contribute to society rather then the opposite.  OF course we can't expect this now when it hurts to walk around, memories are not so good and people may have to wear diapers.  

"George Orwell could not foresee the number of cameras and the data mining systems that will double check your compliance."

In recent med journals (I forget which one) there are articles from  politburo members who are PhDs (nothing against PhDs but just the point that MBAs and PhDs are along with some MDs involved) in something like industrial engineering and work flow engineering.  If one is not in health care in the US we probably all have a relative who is who can attest to health care evolving into something more resembling an assembly line.   My mind is boggled every day with all the regulatory requirements and the absolute hair splitting of every single step in every single human interaction, function, task, as well as duplicate and triplicate controls.   Perhaps for younger people more attune to this view of the world and daily life because of electronic gadgets it is not so rough.  For me it is torture.  Like "Secret Agent Man"  they took away your name and gave you a number.

"Have you been told yet you to ask your patients about guns in the home yet?  It's a health care cost now."

The only time I ask anyone that is if I am concerned they are so depressed that they may commit suicide.  If they have a gun in the house I am more worried.

Other than that - no.  And I will not.   None of my damn business.  

I don't ask people if they wear their seatbelts either.  Enough is enough.  I am not their nanny.

I do try to help with cigarettes and weight where I can.
3694  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / speaking about trust in government on: January 27, 2013, 07:37:31 AM
No quarterly reports ( of course they would be fudged with ridiculous accounting swindling shell games anyway) since 2011.   Obama violating a law HE SIGNED!  Why we hear of it after the election is also another hint of corruption.   Who has the power to enforce laws? Congress?

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-continues-violate-his-own-stimulus-law-not-releasing-quarterly-reports_697896.html

Yes the liberal *elite* , those *0.1% ers*, the *liberal politburo*,  the self delegated ones who behind closed doors are conspiring what is best for the world including the journolisters have succeeded in keeping this quite.
3695  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / I don't agree but for sake of stimulating point of view on: January 27, 2013, 07:29:44 AM
I don't know if anyone remembers from the DMG board years ago I pointed out my suspicion that the argument we should get people to stop smoking because they utilize more health care dollars while all the rest of us pay for their medical problems is flawed?

The concept that we will reduce costs in the long run by getting them to quit might be flawed.  If these people die at 50 or 60 rather than living to 80 or more the US might save a bundle in social security,  Medicare, and long term care costs.

Scott Gottlieb of FDA and (of Gilder's health stock letter fame and FDA guy) takes what I think is a tongue in cheek stance that we should just let the smokers (and obese) simply die.  Why should society pay for their health ills keeping them alive?

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_MED_HEALTH_COSTS_REALITY_CHECK?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-01-26-10-03-12


3696  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Benghazi, The Petraeus/Susan Rice affair; and related matters on: January 27, 2013, 12:37:06 AM
http://www.dickmorris.com/

I agree with Morris here.  The hearing with Hillary should absolutely been straight and direct to the point.  forget about how to prevent this in the future.  Half the country wants to explain covering up a terrorist attack just before an election.

"what difference does it make"

The issue is not how to prevent terrorist attacks.   We already know how to do that.  The issue  is that you, madam sec of state and your appointer PRes. Obama should not cover up and deliberately lie about an attack on the US.

The question is how do we prevent people in our government from breaking the trust with Americans?

Interesting CBS will have a love fest chat with the Prez and the (ex) SoS via their 60 minutes show.   The same network whose director of production wants Obama to "bury" the GOP.

It is time Repubs have their spin correction and truth attack squads out on every network correcting the propaganda  the crap that will emanate from this meeting.

Just like Clinton did to us in the 90's.  Even the tiniest criticism of Bill would result in the Clinton hoards on every single show spinning the truth.  Stephonpolous, CArvalle, Forehead Bagella, Davis, ,DNC chair, and the rest.

We need rapid swat like response team.

3697  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Benghazi, The Petraeus/Susan Rice affair; and related matters on: January 24, 2013, 11:48:13 PM
soloDAD (mouse) now bullies Johnson.   Why can't Repubs stand up to this?  Not even to a mouse?

Mouse:   

Are you saying the tears are fake?  Are you ?  Are you saying their fake?  Are you?  Come on, I dare you say it again. 

Me:

Talk about protecting one of your gals......The CNN gals are all the same.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/24/soledad-obrien-ron-johnson-hillary-clinton-benghazi-testimony_n_2541459.html?utm_hp_ref=politics&

Doug:

"That she got off easy in the hearing and that they did not circle her and destroy her as she leaves office does not mean this is over. "

Half the country agrees.   The other half doesn't care.  Hopefully Bob Grant is right and it won't be the Hill in 16.  Maybe even her own party is tired of looking the other way and defending the Clintons.

Clinton fatigue.   

Good thing no one placed a lamp within arms reach of her during this hearing....  Didn't we just hear about some BS that girls are calmer than men?
3698  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness on: January 24, 2013, 11:26:21 PM
A wild guess.

He voted for the war in Iraq?
3699  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Prostate cancer screening on: January 24, 2013, 10:01:38 AM
IMO a good objective summary of the situation.  The urologists and radiation oncologists have too much financial stakes to be able to give rational explanations.   Don't get me wrong.   Their intentions were honorable in trying to combat this disease, but the fact of the matter is that PSA screening leads to a lot of testing, surgery radiation treatment and much anxiety among people who are found to have it.  I discus  with my male pts. the pros and cons and even give them a website to go to and read if they like and allow them to decide.   Some decide against.   Some appear incapable of understanding the controversies and usually opt for the test,  and a few still want it.   Bottom line I try to inform them the best I can and the choice is theirs.  One caveat about the family history as one reason for men to do the test.   If it is estimated 75% of men over 80 will have prostate cancer (though very few will ever know - unless we do a search and destroy mission) then most men, if they have ancestors who live long enough and get tested they now will have a family history.   When I think of family history being relevant it is more important if they have a family member who either died of the disease or was younger when diagnosed.   The risks are higher for Blacks for unknown reasons (NO it is not discriminatory or racist).

http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196(12)01091-9/fulltext
3700  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Benghazi, The Petraeus/Susan Rice affair; and related matters on: January 24, 2013, 09:34:10 AM
Agreed.   And this pathetic show by Republicans only convinces me more this country is doomed to have to go through some catastrophe in order to get back on the right course towards limited government, individual freedom, free markets and fiscal solvency.

Even this they couldn't even get right.   PATHETIC, huh cry
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