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3851  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Morris on debate on: January 17, 2012, 12:42:38 PM
http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/who-won-the-debate-dick-morris-tv-lunch-alert-8/
3852  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Race, religion, ethnic origin on: January 17, 2012, 11:20:47 AM
Yes there is a sort of dishoner for the dead in this. 

Yet I am fascinated by the history of mankind and it unfortunately the only thing left to study of previous generations are the gravesites.

I don't think it is a morbid curiousity that motivates.  It is a study of us I suppose.

Than again grave robbing for money has gone on forever.   Not good.

Do we really learn anything that helps mankind do better in the future from all this archeology?  I haven't given it much thought or know the answer.

Perhaps if we did that would be some sort of moral justification for this.  Otherwise I think you are right and it is morally wrong.

I guess mummy exibits serve no purpose other than to make tourist dollars.
3853  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The congnitive dissonance of the left on: January 17, 2012, 11:12:56 AM
I didn't know Romney is taking "credit" for using billions in taxpayer money to save them.

 shocked huh
3854  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The congnitive dissonance of the left on: January 17, 2012, 09:44:22 AM
Andrew Sullivan calls himself a conservative  rolleyes.  He gives assigns credit for anything good to the genius of Obama.  Anything bad is result of the incompetence of the right or the delusion of the far left (which of course does not include Obama).  Obama  he concludes is a moderate.   

Some of the highly debatable opinions whcih are stated as though they are fact include:

For example, the bailout of the auto industry was a "great success".   (I ask for whom?)

And of course if Brock is not as far left as some paint him it is not because he couldn't be, it is because he *really is* a moderate left of center.   rolleyes

He totally ignores Brock's own devisive politics.  I could go on but one can see for himself.  OF course the article is under the Newsweek banner.  A few decades ago I used to subscribe to this magazine:   

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/01/15/andrew-sullivan-how-obama-s-long-game-will-outsmart-his-critics.html
3855  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / wikipedia on: January 16, 2012, 02:31:17 PM
***Post-colonial historyThe first direct elections for Africans to the Legislative Council took place in 1957. Despite British hopes of handing power to "moderate" African rivals, it was the Kenya African National Union (KANU) of Jomo Kenyatta that formed a government shortly before Kenya became independent on 12 December 1963, on the same day forming the first Constitution of Kenya.[42] During the same year, the Kenyan army fought the Shifta War against ethnic Somalis who wanted Kenya's Northern Frontier District joined with the Republic of Somalia. The Shifta War officially ended with the signature of the Arusha Memorandum in October, 1967, but relative insecurity prevailed through 1969.[43][44] To discourage further invasions, Kenya signed a defence pact with Ethiopia in 1969, which is still in effect.[45]

 
The former Kenyan President and founder of Kenya, Jomo Kenyatta.On 12 December 1964 the Republic of Kenya was proclaimed, and Jomo Kenyatta became Kenya's first president.[46]***

This doesn't prove to me that there were not independence minded people who were calling the country Kenya before it was official but this is certianly very suspicious to me.

Obviously the whole thing is too pol incorrect to do anything about it.

Most people could simply not conceive of such fraud at such a high level.
3856  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness on: January 16, 2012, 02:27:24 PM
"If Virginia and a few other states were to keep the incumbent President off of their ballot in their state based on insufficient or inconclusive documentation provided, the campaign of the former constitutional law professor would certainly respect that decision based on the decision in the Perry case and their respect for "states rights".  No?"

Short answer, no. wink

It is clear to me that the birth certificate on the WH website is a fraud.  As far as I know the phrase "African American" was not even dreamed of in 1961.  We all know it seemed to evolve at some point within the past few decades (80's?) after negro was changed to more acceptable "black" to later African American.  I am certainly ok with calling a group of people whatever they wish.  No problem there.  As for the Kenya thing I am not sure when that name was dreamed of.  I think it true some call a country a certain name before it really has existed.  Perhaps the father called it that?

I have been thinking this for some time but have elected not to bring it up again since now we would be calling the Brock the L word.  Trump was right in what he did.  He also questioned the WH posted document.   He was destroyed in the media.   Bachmann even suggested the original be verifed by document examiners.  She was mocked.

I think the only ttuth is the mock is on the American people.
3857  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Studying ancient human remains on: January 16, 2012, 02:17:05 PM
I have patient who is from Thailand.   She went on a sightseeing tour of Egypt and when she came back we spoke.   She enjoyed many of the sights very much but would not go to see the "mummies".  She explained as a Buddhist that she thought that such displays desecrated the dead.  This report reminds me of her feelings about this: 

http://news.yahoo.com/researchers-tribes-clash-over-native-bones-160144542.html
3858  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Oldest living senator falls on: January 16, 2012, 10:50:07 AM
One has to stand right up next to it to appreciate how large and massive this tree is.  I remember drving through central Fla. and stopping to go walk up the park to the tree:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senator_(tree)
3859  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Jeffrey Sachs on: January 16, 2012, 09:41:29 AM
The Columbia Univ. liberal who writes books on poverty as well as a lecturer for the far left liberal movement including one world government, wind and solar proponent and basically trashing capitalism and the rest was on Scarborough this AM.  I didn't listen to all of it but he listed CEOs, financiers and doctors as the 1% who are bilking the 99%.  They also had Ezeikel Emmanuel the brother of Rahm and an MD policy liberal on.

I notice he doesn't mention the entertainment industry being part of the 1%, or politicians, or some lawyers.

How about Columbia University professors who make a nice salary and benefits and get plenty of time to write/hawk books:

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/12/where-professors-make-the-most/

There is always justification for some to do well as long as they are politically correct.  All the others are lumped into "bilking the system".   

Frankly as a doctor I WISH I was in the one percent.  Lumping all doctors together is just as bigoted and biased as one can get.  I am sure the Emanuals are broke.  I wonder how much Sachs makes off his books.  I am sure every penny goes to feeding the poor.

Class warfare continues.
3860  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: January 16, 2012, 09:28:37 AM
"All six of his supporters will be very disappointed."

Did you see him after the NH primary.  Standing behind him on one side was his blond daughter and on the other the brunette.  I thought I was watching a cheap reality show.

In any case, his message that "Americans are sick and tired of the partisan bickering" was a total bomb.

No I am not sick of bickering.  What I am sick of IS compromise - get it?
3861  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / voter fraud in Indiana on: January 14, 2012, 01:56:22 PM
From the 2012 election thread:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/01/12/indiana-gop-get-schooled-on-election-fraud/

It looks obvious to me this list of "signatures" was written all by one hand.
I wonder how common this is.  It must be far more common than we think just because, in general, fraud, etc is always more common than is brought to public forbearance, so to speak.

I cannot for the life of me think of any reason on Earth why States should have the right to insist that photo ID be presented at the time people vote do you?

Surely this is only a cynical attempt from Republicans to intimidate and "disenfranchise" voters.   rolleyes wink
3862  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Bureaucracy and Regulations in action: The Fourth Branch of the US Govt. on: January 14, 2012, 01:44:43 PM
Clinton made this an art form.  huh

It is interesting to note the agencies are all in the commerce department.

Of all the agencies this is the one he will "streamline".  rolleyes

I dare not use the "L" word.  wink

3863  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Afpakia: Afghanistan-Pakistan on: January 13, 2012, 01:00:53 PM
"deplorable" seems to be the agreed upon adjective from Panetta, Clinton, etc.

I will be shocked if they are not court martialed.  I don't feel it is as bad as Abu Graib.  Surely this is sad to see but I agree with Crafty - we have seen far worse.  Now if those corpses were innocent farmers or herders, or civilians who were murdered that is a complete different story.

We accept the idea of dead people lying there presumably killed in war but we are to get all bent out of shape when the bodies are desecrated?

Just odd about the rules - politically correctness in war and as in anything else I guess.
3864  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Afpakia: Afghanistan-Pakistan on: January 13, 2012, 11:44:28 AM
I recall it was reported Hillary Clinton laughed out loud when they told her Khadaffi was killed.

I wonder if that was before of after the videos of him being dragged out of drain pipe beaten, stabbed and basically shot in the face at point blank range.

Certainly I don't feel sorry for him but I thought her gloating seemed telling abouther.


3865  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / From the first admentdment thread on the Hossaya decision on: January 12, 2012, 06:01:42 PM
I notice we the tax payers paid for this abuse of power by the obama administration through the outdated and past its time equal employment opportunity commission.

So I just happen to look up the website and I see this mafia like government organization basically extorting money out of Pepsi - why because they do background checks on job applicants and a disproportionate number of Blacks come up with positive criminal records.  So they are fined 13 million.   Where is the outrage from the MSM?   So now an employer cannot do background criminal checks and act upon their findings at their discretion?  I guess so if your the bama/holder mob:

http://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/newsroom/release/1-11-12a.cfm
3866  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / what the frack? Jury still out on: January 10, 2012, 02:21:20 PM
Scientific American article from Nov 11 reviewing evidence for and against contamination of drinking water from fracking chemicals:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=fracking-evolving-truth-natural-gas

3867  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / ms*LSD*; Pat out; Al in on: January 09, 2012, 04:48:19 PM
Pat out because he is hurtful and outdated ideas.  So put Sharpton with his objectivity, sensitivity, and honest analysis in.  I don't know whether to laugh or cry:

http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2012/01/09/pat_buchanan_vs_msnbc_controversial_book_causing_tension.html
3868  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces on: January 09, 2012, 08:08:19 AM
I don't see anything on the Romney webist about technology in general other than maybe extending visas to foreigners with advanced degrees.

OTOH it may not be a bad idea to wait with some plans and ideas lest Brockster use them for his trial balloons.  Clinton was a master (with a MSM allowing him to get away with it) of co-opting the ideas of the opposing party and act like it was all him.

"The era of big government is over".
3869  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / More Mort (who is from Canada) on: January 09, 2012, 07:58:34 AM
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/mzuckerman/articles/2012/01/06/mort-zuckerman-we-must-reignite-americas-can-do-spirit
3870  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Mort Zuckerman on: January 09, 2012, 07:52:51 AM
Gets it:

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/mzuckerman/articles/2011/12/22/as-obama-fails-to-lead-american-dream-is-called-into-question
3871  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Tony Blankley in movie with Humphrey Bogart on: January 09, 2012, 07:41:39 AM
He would have been around 8 yo.  Doesn't appear to have had speaking role.  I remember parts of this movie:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Harder_They_Fall
3872  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces on: January 08, 2012, 10:49:43 AM
"Therefore, the critical questions for America today have to be how we deploy more ultra-high-speed networks and applications in university towns to invent more high-value-added services and manufactured goods and how we educate more workers to do these jobs — the only way we can maintain a middle class.  I just don’t remember any candidate being asked in those really entertaining G.O.P. debates: “How do you think smart cities can become the job engines of the future, and what is your plan to ensure that America has a strategic bandwidth advantage?”

Is Friedman stating it should be a matter of government policy and administration to oversee the bandwidth revolution (if you will).  If you ask me America is in the forefront of this.

Should we have government policy overseeing this?  If so one can then imagine a new Gov. agency.  Or stated another way smaller government, at least in this area is not better. 

OTOH one could argue that the gov. should simply get out of the way.  But I am not clear it ever was.




3873  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / OReilly on his coverage or Pres race on: January 08, 2012, 10:38:20 AM
"Idealogy will not defeat Obama".  This is my impression as well.  I am so sure about some of what he saysbut I do agree with this point.   Idealogy is not the driver - it is about the money.   We have a split group on the right and left who may care more about ideology.  But as always it is the middle - and ideology is obviously not a concern for them.   And they decide the election: 

By Bill O'Reilly

There is no question that this program will play a major role in a presidential race this year. We are by far the most watched news show in prime time, tripling our opposition and many "Factor" viewers watch us because they want straight talk.

We're not rooting for anybody. We're not in the business of promoting any candidate. And we are tough on everybody.

Now, that alienates some Americans who want their candidate to be coddled. Let's take Rick Santorum who was on the program last night. The central point of the interview with the former senator was that he will now become a target because the media will portray him as a right-wing extremist. There is no doubt that will happen.

So I asked Mr. Santorum about his positions and he did answer the questions. But some Santorum supporters didn't like those questions. Laura Luke who lives in Milford, Michigan, "Bill, I was stunned by the hit- and-run interview you did with Santorum. You finally gave him five minutes and spent the time on issues most Americans don't care about. You owe him an apology".

Well, here are the facts Laura. The interview with Senator Santorum lasted seven minutes, 45 seconds. He ran as a social conservative and did well in Iowa based on that. We framed the interview that way and it was fair.

Mary Syren in St. Louis, "Bill, I am furious with you. You interrupted Rick Santorum big time".

Mr. Santorum spoke for 60 percent... 60 percent of the nearly eight minute interview. It's my job to ask as many questions as possible and keep the conversation pithy. No campaign speeches are allowed on "The Factor." You know that.

Doris, I'm withholding her last name, Lewiston, Idaho. "Bill, why is it that you bully all the conservatives and lavish praise on all your liberal friends?"

Doris, that's just lunacy, as Dick Morris said last night, Kool-Aid drinking cuts both ways. The point here is that we have been remarkably consistent for more than 15 years about asking tough questions. But we have also sharpened our focus recently.

All Americans seeking power will be scrutinized on the program, which is why some of them are too frightened to come on. We don't care much about party politics here. We care a lot about looking out for you.

One more letter about Santorum and we'll have more mail later on. This one from Deborah Mullins, Manakin-Sabot, Virginia. "O'Reilly you were a little soft on Mr. Santorum. You let him off on questions about birth control and gay marriage. It was obvious he did not anticipate those questions."

The Senator answered my questions pretty directly, Deborah. I told you that the interview was not a debate over his social positions. It was to allow Rick Santorum to further define what he has said during the campaign in Iowa. He did that. So I did my job.

And isn't it interesting that one viewer thinks I gave Santorum a pass, while another thinks I hammered him. When analyzing this very important presidential race, you have to put emotion aside. I mean I have to put it aside. You can be as emotional as you want. Just don't go crazy like Doris in Idaho.

Let's take President Obama, for example. As you know, I gave him the benefit of the doubt when he first took office and began trying to federalize the economy. I didn't think that was going to work, but I watched the scenario play out because I'm not an economist. Over the past three years, the economy has remained pretty much stagnant, while the national debt at $15 trillion, is now near the bankruptcy level.

So it is fair to say that Mr. Obama's economic strategy has not worked. That's not a personal shot at him. That's just the fact of the matter. Alan Colmes and other devoted liberals will tell you the President needs more time and incredibly should spend even more money to stimulate the economy.

Well, recently the coaches of the St. Louis Rams and the Tampa Bay Bucks were fired because they could not produce winners after three years. Politics is like sports. You have to produce. But Democrat partisans don't care about performance. If you have a "D" after your name, they like you, period. They don't care. Of course, the same holds true for Republican partisans and I'm fine with that on both fronts.

If your political philosophy trumps performance, that's on you. But I live in an entirely different world. The mandate of "The Factor" means we have to be skeptical about all of those seeking power. We have to challenge them and I hope that's why you watch.

Much of our political analysis is based on facts, such as polling we trust from folks like Rasmussen and Gallup. Rasmussen now has Romney at 29 percent among likely Republican voters nationwide; Santorum 21; Gingrich 16, Ron Paul 12.

In the head-to-head matchup, Romney versus Obama, it's tied at 42 percent each. In New Hampshire a Suffolk University tracking poll of likely GOP voters has Romney at 41; Paul 18; Santorum, 8; Gingrich, 7; Huntsman, 7.

Now, there are two debates this weekend, but Saturday is up against an NFL playoff game, so that will be muted and then Sunday's morning is in a debate... Sunday's debate is in the morning I should say. On Monday's "Factor", we'll have the most important parts of those expositions, again, without any favoritism or spin.

Finally let's talk about what this election really means. Let's cut through it. President Obama is no hypocrite. He wants to fundamentally change the country, putting social justice as a top priority. In 2008, he told us he'd do that.

Mr. Obama has been tougher on the terrorists than I thought he'd be. He has largely kept the Bush-Cheney policies in place and the brutally effective drone attacks have angered the ACLU and other far left people. So the President is no phony. He does what he believes is right.

The problem is, the problem, though, is federal spending. Mr. Obama doesn't seem to understand the danger he is courting. He simply does not want to stop the madness despite the massive debt. I mean, these pinheads in Washington are set to approve another $1.5 trillion in debt. That's simply insane.

The truth is, America can't afford national health care right now. We can increase health insurance competition, but we can't pick up the tab for 30 million Americans. No matter what the left believes, no matter how high you raise taxes. And we can no longer afford Medicare and Social Security in the way the programs are set up. They must be modified somewhat for Americans under the age of 40.

The social and financial contract between Washington and we the people has to be changed or the United States will go the way of Greece. As a citizen, I don't understand why President Obama doesn't understand. And that dilemma will be spotlighted on "The Factor" until we do understand.

On the Republican front here is the reality, even though the economy is shaky, 42 percent of Americans would still vote for the President as it stands today. Even with the dangerous debt, even with Solyndra, cap and trade, health care mandate, even with all of that, Mr. Obama remains competitive. He's not Jimmy Carter. The GOP better understand that and the party had better put together a cogent message based upon spending limitations, along with entitlement and tax reform.

Ideology will not... I repeat... will not defeat Barack Obama. His left-wing ideologues match the right-wing folks. If Washington continues to spend more than it takes in, doesn't reform the tax code and entitlements, this nation will go into steep decline. That's what's in play this year 2012. And that's what "The Factor" will be covering in a tough, blunt, no spin way, guaranteed to tee off a lot of folks.

And that's "The Memo."

— You can catch Bill O'Reilly's "Talking Points Memo" and "Pinheads & Patriots" weeknights at 8 and 11 p.m. ET on the Fox News Channel and any time on foxnews.com/oreilly. Send your comments to: oreilly@foxnews.com.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/oreilly/2012/01/06/bill-oreilly-how-
3874  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Pathological Science on: January 08, 2012, 09:52:03 AM
Chuck,

I should have posted under the media thread.  I doubt fracking is causing *significant* shifts in tectonic plates.  Yes I agree scientists can evaluate for the possibility of more local release of "stored" up energy though.

But the main thrust of my points is that a MSNBC host presents a theory as though it is accepted fact.  And this is a problem.
And I have a hard time trusting anything that comes out of Columbia University knowing the politics of most of the staff.

3875  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / MSNBC propaganda on: January 07, 2012, 09:14:56 AM
The scientific proof from the left continues:

On Chris Hayes "Up" show this AM he is quoted as saying, "we now KNOW an earthquake in Ohio is caused by fracking".

Right away I know he could not possible "know" this so I look it up online and find a seismologist from Columbia has made a circumstancial link from "nearby" fracking" and a "rare" event in Ohio.  Obviously this is proof.  And a guy from 'Columbia' of course is objective:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-earthquake-ohiotre803022-20120103,0,6455763.story
3876  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iran on: January 07, 2012, 09:02:56 AM
"It's as if China were to blockade the Gulf of Mexico, he said--"an act of war".

To further this ridiculous analogy:

That would be like China stating they want to murder every Japanese and drive them off their islands into the sea.

"This is the kind of thing Ron Paul presumably had in mind when he said Iran may want nuclear weapons in order to get some "respect." But hey, what does Ron Paul know?"

Any idiot can see this is what Iran wants.  While they murder all Jews in Israel.

"Underlying our Iran strategy is the assumption that if we keep ratcheting up the pressure, the regime will eventually say uncle. A problem with this premise is that throughout human history rulers have shown an aversion to being seen by their people as surrendering."
 
Well that has been Brock's assumption all along.  I agree this doesn't work.   Allowing Iran to have nucs as Paul so desires won't work either.  And surely if one sees Iran trying to get "respect" now just wait till they get 20 or 50 or 100 nuclear devices say in several years.

"Ron Paul is no expert on Iran. But now someone who does have relevant credentials has weighed in, and the picture he paints is disturbingly reminiscent of the one Paul painted. It suggests we may be closer to war than most people realize."

Sorry.  If this is Ron Pauls's logic as this writer  suggests than it is no wonder most consider him a nut job.






3877  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: January 06, 2012, 01:17:35 PM
Crafty,
Thanks for the post.  Yes I need cheering up.
After listening to the Repubs cutting themselves to pieces (with the sheer joy of the MSM), and hearing them continuely force losing issues like the "non recess/ recess appt" "scandal" which means *nothing* to independent voters I do need some reassuring talk.

When one listens to the MSM Brock is made out to be some sort of brilliant political titan.   Just like Clinton he lets his hair go whiter for the second 4 year run to appear like the elder statesman.   Yes, I guess we are that stupid.

Unfortunately the "trend of an economic recovery" bought and paid for by funny money is so far on his side.

I agree with Rush Limbaugh that there is NO chance the unemployment numbers will not be manipulated to reflect lower employment going into the election.  There are ways they are doing this like putting as many people into disability.   I am convinced the Federal employees are doing that just like immigration officials were advised to push through immigrant papers.

Shove in as much of the progrressive agenda as possible before the election just in case he does lose.


 
3878  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Ventura IS a war hero on: January 05, 2012, 03:49:19 PM
GM and Doug,

You forgot to mention he served with Schwarzenegger and Weathers and even got injured during that tour of duty.

I am surpirsed he survived his injuries:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093773/
3879  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iran on: January 05, 2012, 03:43:42 PM
Your probably right.

That is why I noted "even more cynical".

But that doesn't deflect that Brock has been their best hope (at least till now) if not going forward.
3880  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iran on: January 05, 2012, 03:01:12 PM
"Anyway, were the report true, who here amongst us would object?"

Not me.  But I can't stand to give brock any credit for this. 

"this is a report from the IRANIANS"

Well to be even more "cynical" the Iranians could be coming out with these reports which suggest Brock is actually going to do the right thing to help him - counter to them loving to keep the guy in power precisely because of his weakness.

Especially with the Repubs on the other side mostly saying they WILL use force to stop them from nucs.
3881  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iran on: January 05, 2012, 12:56:33 PM
With regards to the deployment to Israel I am glad yet dismayed this is clearly wag the tail.

Well this locks up the 80% of the Jewish vote and the money will keep pouring in.

Suddenly the concept of war will no longer be held to be insanity by the MSM.  Not when THEIR guy is now hinting at it.

Remember how the MSM  would try lock stock and barrel to get any Republican to state that military force should be used or even considered to stop Iran from going nuclear.  Every single one would equivicate.

Now Brock may be finally behind the scenes agreeing to this in view of falling Jewish support - just watch the MSM will report it as though it is an ok idea.  Just watch.
3882  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Clinton - again on: January 04, 2012, 01:15:39 PM
I guess this could go under 2012 election thread.  I have ZERO doubt we have seen the last of the Clintons.  Question is now as Brock VP?? or next election cycle?   They still have no one else.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/question-dnc-chair-will-obama-drop-biden-clinton_616019.html
3883  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Iowa on: January 04, 2012, 01:02:06 PM
Decades ago while driving across country towards Colorado and eventually to Phoenix with a friend and his parents I remember stopping at a gas station somewhere in rural Iowa off interstate 80.

My friend's father (remember we are all from NJ) trying to be pleasant with small talk said to the gas attendant,

"You have some really nice country out here!"

The attendant's response was kind of curt, to the point, and corrective,

"yeah, if you like looking at corn!".

I remember stepping out of the car and in every single direction as far as the eye could see were endless rows of corn stalks.

For some reason I never forgot that moment. 

My friend's father did not say another word.

And that is my only memory of Iowa.

3884  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Military Science and Military Issues on: January 04, 2012, 12:45:14 PM
"U.S. defense analysts say the missile is designed to come in at an angle too high for U.S. defenses against sea-skimming cruise missiles and too low for defenses against other ballistic missiles."

Sound like Sun Tzu to me.

3885  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: January 04, 2012, 12:19:43 PM
I wonder what grade Mr Robinson would give to Brock?

Some were obviously mesmorized by him.   Now I think only the 40% die hard crats can even stand to listen to him.

It has got to be much tougher today than in years past.   With all the media we have today.  

I agree Santorum does sound much better.   I am thinking I could vote for him over Romney.  Yet we all know we have to beat Brock and sadly (to me) Romney the detail man still gets press as being the best one to do that because of the independent swing votders.  angry
3886  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iraq on: January 04, 2012, 12:08:48 PM
"Amongst the variables in this regard was the benefit of sitting on Iran's western border should it be necessary to prevent them from going nuclear"

Certainly that would have given us the access better than from Carriers alone - Turkey doesn't seem to want to get involved.

To me it is *extraordinarily* curious who suddenly, suddenly, we are actually hearing some whispering about military force from the military under the Brockster.  Why now?

Indeed it seems more bizzare to hear that now that we did move most of our guys out of neighboring Iraq.

We are certainly not getting the behind the scenes information to understand this.  It certainly has the appearance of wagging the tale from a desperate guy in the WH - no?

Does anyone know what to make of this?

(Please just don't quote Farreed the Zakaria who is just a buddy of Brock doing his utmost best to make the One look like he is still the great one.)
3887  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / correction on: January 04, 2012, 11:58:11 AM
"We NEVER hear this when we had a minority party in the Senate fillibustering everything and doing the same thing."

I meant to say *Democratic* minority 2000 to 2008.  And house I think 2000 to 2006?
3888  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Newt Gingrich on: January 04, 2012, 11:56:30 AM
"I have been reminded in recent days just how tepid and timid Romney's economic plans are."

Again the radical left has won the argument.  When they are not in full power they are able to shift the argument with a complicit MSM to the Republicans, the Tea party types are out simply to shut down government and block ANYthing Brock does.

We NEVER hear this when we had a minority party in the Senate fillibustering everything and doing the same thing.

Unfortunately it does appear the Independents buy into this hook line and sinker particularly all of those on the gov. paycheck dole whose sole reason de tere is to get that check.  At least that is the impression I am left with when everytime I hear a poll result the Repubs are held to blame MORE than the Crats or WH for the inability of the gov to "govern".

An unfortunately Romney is all about compromise and getting things done.  Total establishment.  Yet this appears to garner the most votes in a national election -  cry cry

I don't recall if it was Cantor or Santorum who recently was on cable stating the truth that we cannot compromise - we have done so for decades and the left still does not will not stop the progressive march.

Either Romney doesn't believe this or he is doing what he thinks he has to  - I am not sure.   Either way I fear he may be right.  It probably is too late.
3889  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Spin ok just never use the L word on: January 04, 2012, 11:46:34 AM
"Spin" is ok.  It makes no difference what a politician says but just go ahead and call them a liar and look what happens - You have the CNNs ODonnel going bonkers with her gotcha moment on Newt - "are you calling him a liar?" [Romney] 

Newt said frankly yes.  So of course CNN runs with it trying to make it into another big scandel.  This from the keeping 'em honest station - what a joke. cry

The political correct establishment thing is to never call spin what it is - lying.  The L word is no different now then the N word the F word.

On second thought the F word is great.
3890  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iraq on: January 04, 2012, 11:39:34 AM
OTOH look what happened in BosniaSerbia.  Dole who pushed for air attacks then actually implemented with Clinton - luckily and a very big luckily - it worked.  Without our troops having to go in there we got rid of Milosiivich with some smart weapons.

But how do we know in advance this would work.

As for Libyia I don't know what to say.  30K died.  We could easily have assasinated Khaddafi from day one.  We didn't because *we don't do that*.  So we dragged along a bunch of regular folks in a slower war for the same result.

Of course we got to know them and of course leaders arose who can hopefully fill the void with a humane society. undecided tongue
3891  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iraq on: January 04, 2012, 11:33:00 AM
IN follow up to my post above let me place my thoughts into my own perspective:

I remember hearing and seeing the events in Somalia and thinking why can't we do something to help these people some of whom are starving.  Bush senior wanted to do a humanitarian deed and look what happened.

Then we had the stories of Saddam continuing to leak out.  The sheer terror and the cruelty was beyond description.  I thought how can we not do something.  I didn't even care about the WMD.  I thought justice was enough of a reason to try to help stop the inhumanity.

We all know the rest.

I guess my point is we cannot always help.  We cannot change people.  There comes a point where we have to just step back and say it is YOUR responsibility.

I guess every situation is somewhat unique and we can go on hand wringing forever.

I just think most Americans think we did our best in Iraq and it is time to say it is up to them to do the right thing.  IT could break up into Syunni Shia and Kurd.  It could get dominated by Iran.  Who knows?
3892  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Sharpton "anchor" on: January 03, 2012, 12:08:37 PM
The *establishment guy*, Sharpton may take over the time slot for Uygur:

"too establishment"
"challenge power"

****Al Sharpton Close to Anchor Deal at MSNBC
 
Reuters  Jul 21, 2011 Say hello to Al Sharpton and goodbye to Cenk Uygur for MSNBC's 6 p.m. time slot. According to The New York Times's Brian Stelter, a deal is "imminent" to have the civil rights firebrand anchor his own show, following Uygur's six-month tryout. Stelter says the deal comes as "MSNBC and other news channels have been criticized for a paucity of minority hosts in prominent time slots." Uygur was offered a contract to host his own weekend show but declined saying to viewers on his web show The Young Turks that MSNBC was too "establishment." He explained, “I didn’t want to work in a place that wouldn’t let me do my kind of show, that wasn’t interested in my kind of show, that didn’t want to challenge power."

In the Times article Uygur says that in April MSNBC president Phil Griffin “called me into his office and said that he’d been talking to people in Washington, and that they did not like my tone.” According to Uygur, Griffin didn't like him criticizing President Obama so extensively. On his web show, he offered the words of one of his fans to explain his feelings: “Watching Cenk on The Young Turks is like watching a tiger in the wild; watching him on MSNBC is like watching a tiger in a cage.” Nice imagery.****


3893  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: The Power of Word on: January 02, 2012, 12:29:44 PM
Nice post.

Some of us can learn, can change.   Some cannot.
3894  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The congnitive dissonance of the left on: January 02, 2012, 12:22:57 PM
On drudger this am:

Another liberal socialist professor from Columbia U. succeeded in gaining a class for college credit for the OWS radical agenda.
Hannah Appel.

I presume if someone in the class went to a Tea Party event instead the person would get an F.

Just because one can think "outside the box" does not make one qualified to teach.  There is a limit to opposing and independent thought beyond which it is just stubborn, angry stupidity.

The radical left has really hyjacked the political thought in the Ivies.
3895  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Art Laffer: Gingirch will give us big time growth! on: December 29, 2011, 05:40:43 PM
Gingrich wins endorsement from supply-sider Art Laffer
 
Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich speaks during a campaign stop in Storm Lake, Iowa. (Eric Gay / Associated Press)
 
By Robin Abcarian
 
December 29, 2011, 1:55 p.m.
Reporting from Storm Lake, Iowa --— It’s an intriguing argument for a futurist like Newt Gingrich: Vote for me and bring back the past.

Gingrich, who has claimed he is the only Republican presidential candidate who can fix the economy because he has already done so twice before—once with Ronald Reagan in the 1980s and again as speaker of the House in the 1990s—trotted out one of the architects of “Reaganomics” at a campaign stop Thursday.

Economist Arthur Laffer, the 71-year-old father of supply-side economics, endorsed Gingrich here in this picturesque lakeside town in northwest Iowa, where Sarah Palin ran a half-marathon last August.

“I think if Newt is president, you are going to see economic growth beyond what you have ever seen,” said Laffer, who introduced Gingrich to a crowd of about 100 here in Storm Lake.

“Newt really delivered,” said Laffer, “When he was speaker, he was able to work with Bill Clinton closely and carefully to bring one of the most prosperous periods in American history.”

Laffer, whose theory is also called “trickle down” -- or “voodoo economics,” a derogatory term coined by George H.W. Bush when he vied with Reagan for the GOP nomination -- posits that cutting taxes and regulations stimulates the economy, adds jobs and is more effective at raising revenue than simply raising taxes.

(Those paying attention in the 1980s might recall his “Laffer curve,” an upside-down U that shows a theoretical, optimal tax rate for maximum revenue generation. A government that taxes too little won’t generate enough revenue, the Laffer curve posits, but a government that taxes too much won’t either, because there will be no incentive to earn a lot of money.)

Critics often say that those who lionize Reagan conveniently forget that while Reagan cut taxes in his first term, he later raised taxes many times to help balance the federal budget.

Gingrich has been trying to emulate another aspect of Reagan, a former actor who was meticulous about what the consultants now call the “optics” of campaigning.

On Thursday for the first time, a group of everyday Iowans sat behind him as Gingrich spoke to a crowd of about 100 in a meeting room at King’s Pointe Waterpark. Gingrich’s wife, Callista, stood onstage to his left as she always does, hands clasped, the swoosh of her perfect platinum bob visible to the audience. She looked at him attentively, evoking for those who recall it the famous Nancy Reagan gaze. (And also perhaps to ward off unwanted questions about his troubled marital past, a sticking point for some evangelical Christians here.)

Joanne Samsel, a retired teacher standing behind the couple onstage, complimented  Callista Gingrich.

“She’s elegant, she’s beautiful, she’s everything that we could ever want for the United States,” said Samsel. “So Jackie Kennedy: Enjoy the time that you had, but we have ours coming up.”

Callista took her husband’s microphone: “I appreciate that very, very much,” she said.

Earlier in an impromptu conversation with reporters at his Sioux City headquarters, Gingrich said he is not worried about his plunge in some polls. Others, he noted, have him in second place, behind former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

”Let me just say I think that the strategy of focusing on jobs and economic growth and staying positive… is working,” said Gingrich, who has also been holding daily 30-minute telephone town halls with Iowa voters to counteract the deluge of negative ads by his opponents. So far, he said, he has spoken to more than 30,000 people, though the number is not verifiable.

During the calls, he invites callers to ask any question they wish, sometimes with unanticipated results. Last night, a man accused him of being a polygamist for having three consecutive marriages. Gingrich, who converted to Catholicism before marrying his wife, Callista, replied that he could not be a polygamist since his previous two marriages were annulled. He thanked the man for his “creative question.”

Town halls can be unpredictable, too. Samsel, who had complimented Callista Gingrich, asked the candidate whether it was true that Arizona would not allow President Obama’s name to appear on ballots because he is “not a citizen.”

“I thought you were going to ask whether Donald Trump is a citizen,” he joked before declaring the question “moot.”  “There is every reason to believe he is a citizen of the United States. He is a terrible president, we don’t have to go beyond that.”
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3896  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / light bulbs on: December 29, 2011, 05:27:57 PM
incandascent vs compact fluorescent vs LED bulbs.  So far the CFL are the best for the money.  LED are only aroun twice as long lived as the CFL at ten times the cost:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=building-a-better-light-bulb
3897  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / response to BD on: December 28, 2011, 11:29:10 AM
"Give me a list of nations, historically, with a moral imperative similar to the US."

Wait a second.  Are you saying morality was invented by the US?

The concept of kindness to one's neighbor and that war is evil is hardly new.

 am not clear why you are going off that this country is suddenly assigned with a global moral crusade.

As for,
 the argument that Bush senior made a mistake in not finishing the job and  not being new is of course correct.

I pointed out in previous posts how he dangerously put the US in the position of losing its independence in taking action by making precedents that we can no longer unilaterally act (whether in our best interests or not) without the aproval of "the international community" much of which was a crock anyway since it takes bribes to get many countries on board with the US anyway.
Iraq is globally strategic.  If Iraq falls apart, we are all screwed. What we fear from Iran is twice as large and more than twice as


I posted how George Will pointed this out during the first invasion.  Certainly he was not alone in seeing this as even I could see it a mile away.  Crafty points out that Bush had promises to keep with this coalition thing.

That said there may not have been a right answer as to whether we should have removed Saddam the first time as a power vacuum would have ensued, and possibly Iran moved in.  Who knows?

Doug writes,
"Iraq is globally strategic.  If Iraq falls apart, we are all screwed. What we fear from Iran is twice as large and more than twice as dangerous when Iran dominates Iraq.

The two main problems for us:

Oil and proliferation of nuclear weapons.

Our country has truly failed to deal with both.  There is no hope for either with Brockster in charge.

It is too late for a country like Pakistan.  I don't know about Iran.  Bockster is changing his tune now tht he needs wealthy Jewish donations for his re-election.  All of a sudden with an election in 12 he is showing signs of intention to either use military force in Iran or allow Isarel to do so.  OTOH perhaps this was part of the strategy in pulling out of Iraq.  To better concentrate on Iran.  Who knows.  But I wish to God my fellow Jews would stop supporting this liberal.  But 75-80% are wedded to the Democratic party.  Brockster has taken away Jews worry about Iran by putting on the tale the military card.  It is about time.  But this all has the appearance of a polticial move to help his re election. 




3898  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: December 27, 2011, 11:28:22 AM
BD,
Yes I see what you mean.
I don't see a problem with the way she addressed him.  That is why I thought Doug was implying more along the lines of my interpretation.
3899  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: December 27, 2011, 11:11:19 AM
BD,
Interesting you noted how Walters addressed Obama.

Is that what Doug was pointing out?

My impression from the post was to first think at how obnoxiously self loving Obama is.

Of all things the only thing he even considers changing about himself is he wishes he took up an instrument.

The narcissism this answer reflects is astounding.  It suggests he thinks he is perfect except he never took up rap.
3900  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iraq on: December 27, 2011, 10:31:24 AM
"Progressive" politics in foreign policy.

We are never good enough we never do enough it is our moral obligation to fix everything and protect everyone overseas.

Smart war smart power.  Smart assination.  Advancing freedom.

Does anyone else see the endless creeping game this is; very akin to progressivism in domestic policy.  That every wrong, every unequality, has government action as it's answer?   Lest we be morally berift.

No individual responsibility to those overseas.  They need out help.  They need their nanny. etc.
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