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3901  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Real field of dreams on: September 02, 2007, 10:41:46 AM
The rookie's no-hitter almost makes me want to be a baseball fan again.  No obvious help from performance enhancing drugs.  The next Greg Maddux?  By the way anyone know if Prince Fielder related to Cecil - my favorite player of the 90's?

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/recap?gid=270901102&prov=ap

Growing up in the NYC metropolitan area in the 60's and 70's I was a Yankee fan too.  During the days of Murcer, White, Michael, Clarke, Alou, Pepitone, Munson, (saw Mantle ground out a couple of times), Howard, Boomer Bloomberg, and more.

Remember Reggie Jackson throwing a guy out at the plate from right and receiving a standing ovation.  The very next half of the inning he walked and got picked off first only to be booed and fans screaming "bum".  Only in NY!
3902  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / *No* consensus that man is responsible for global warming on: August 31, 2007, 07:43:13 AM
A survey of recent scientific articles from 2004 to 2007 show that there is no clear consensus that man is causing global warming:

http://www.dailytech.com/Survey+Less+Than+Half+of+all+Published+Scientists+Endorse+Global+Warming+Theory/article8641.htm
3903  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Jonah Goldberg - Vick on: August 25, 2007, 10:27:46 AM
I don't know what to think of Vick.  As someone who has three dogs I find it hard to understand why people would think it a sport to torture lower animals than us, but this is not new.   I am not clear how cultural this is. I don't see anyone even dare ask.  But to me anyone who thinks this is cool has their ass on backwards.  And we see children being brought up to respect this and admire this sadistic "game"?   Just another chapter in the book titled "worst of man".

http://author.nationalreview.com/latest/?q=MjE5NQ==
3904  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / World "oligarcies" are starting to jell on: August 17, 2007, 08:03:06 AM
Well it seemed to me some years back the world would be split into large geopolitical groups.  Europe vs. N America, vs S america vs China etc.  Perhpas economic globalization will counter this trend but somehow I don't think so.

Is this the beginning of a period of China-Russia dominating Asia vs America-Europe (Post Sarkozy)?  Which camp is Africa going to wind up in?  Chavez is trying to wrest control of S America and some of the Caribbean.  I presume he would like to tie up with the Communists and pseudo-communists.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070817/ap_on_re_eu/russia_china_maneuvers_1

3905  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / More freedom in the chinese media? on: August 13, 2007, 09:39:55 AM
I find this story about corruption in China amazing because it was first reported in *Chinese* media.  I would think that in the past those reporting this corruption, and not those participating in the corruption would have been the ones in trouble. 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070813/ap_on_re_as/china_slavery
3906  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Morris: Newt in or out by Fall on: August 12, 2007, 11:41:55 PM
Dick Morris' opinion that Gingrich will announce by Fall.  I wish Newt had more of John McCain's character, or that McCain had more of Newt's ideas and ingenuity.  I don't really see how Newt could win in such a divided electorate.  He must have as high *negative* ratings as Hillary but just from the opposite aisles of the political spectrum.  Perhaps he could garner enough middle ground support like Hillary with similar populist platforms.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/DickMorrisandEileenMcGann/2007/08/10/newts_time_to_jump_into_the_race_could_come_this_fall
3907  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Immigration on: August 12, 2007, 11:31:11 PM
***If he had only become a janitor, would his story still be as inspirational?***

Are you kidding?

***What about the hundreds of thousands of other illegals who don't quite make it to doctor status? Are their stories not worth telling?***

Generally yes.  IMO this is *not* like the millions of Grapes of Wrath stories that can *all* be told with *one* novel.   Just as boring and mundane as my going to medical school and not a story that is worth telling.  Jjust as the guy who jumped the fence and came to the US to aspire to janitorhood is a story that I find not interesting. (I suppose you do?)  So I went to med school. So some guy came here and landed a job as a janitor which he probably did in the country of origin. 

As for myself, I didn't have nearly the adversity this guy had.  Either you're just putting me on or if you really can't see the difference than I might as well not bother posting here.

***But can you explain the apparent hypocrisy of praising this illegal while denigrating those who just want a better life and don't achieve "success"?***

I agree with you about this point.   Your point about hypocrisy is valid.  Yes one could point out he was a criminal just like all illegals regardless of outcome.  And I agree outcome doesn't excuse his initial starting out by breaking our laws.

All day long I am surrounded by people who are from somewhere else.  How many are here legally or not I don't know.  But there is no question they are coming by the millions.  And contrary to what we are hearing many are not from Mexico.

3908  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / baseball on: August 12, 2007, 11:37:57 AM
Looking at Alex Rodriguez's numbers are amazing when one sees he is only 32 years old.

He already has hall of fame numbers the likes of Willie McCovey, Eddie Matthews, Ernie Banks and others.

But every time I see this kind of thing I can't help but wonder.  Is he using or not?

I have no idea.  Just kind of taints it for everyone in the game.  Even those who don't use.  I still suggest they make it legal.  May as well.   At least get out and into the open.

Anyway, if he stays healthy he should overtake Bonds.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/5275/career;_ylt=AlwqYp5AA5zv5Wy3gRBnF9SFCLcF
3909  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / voice recognition article on: August 11, 2007, 09:45:29 PM
Voice recognition accuracy is up to 95% and 99% with slight adjustments.  170 plus words a minute!

http://www.livescience.com/technology/070716_speech_recognition.html
3910  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Remarkable story of illegal migrant to neurosurgeon on: August 11, 2007, 09:11:13 PM
In the recent issue of this medical journal is a remarkable story of a 19 year old illegal immigrant who spoke no English and with $65 in his pocket began a journey that would take him to Harvard medical school and to a professorship of neurosurgery and oncology at Johns Hopkins School of Medicine.

It makes one proud to be in a country where such opportunity is available.  Yet this individual's achievements are still quite rare.

Apparantly he could not have done this at all in Mexico.  What our politicians and left leaning media should be asking and making clear the reasons why people cannot do this in Mexico.   Is it that corrupt in Mexico?  Why is there not the same opportunity in a country like Mexico?  Why is not education not as available there?  Etc.

I am in awe of stories like these.  Compare this to the "little" narcisistic punks we hear about every day in the news like Spears, Hilton, Smith, Bonds.   Anyway I digress while I let off steam about our sick love of celebritism.

The read a bit long but worth the read for a real uplifting and inspiring story:

The New England Journal of Medicine

 Volume 357:529-531       August 9, 2007       Number 6

*Terra Firma — A Journey from Migrant Farm Labor to Neurosurgery*
Alfredo Quiñones-Hinojosa, M.D.


"You will spend the rest of your life working in the fields," my cousin told me when I arrived in the United States in the mid-1980s. This fate indeed appeared likely: a 19-year-old illegal migrant farm worker, I had no English language skills and no dependable means of support. I had grown up in a small Mexican farming community, where I began working at my father's gas station at the age of 5. Our family was poor, and we were subject to the diseases of poverty: my earliest memory is of my infant sister's death from diarrhea when I was 3 years old. But my parents worked long hours and had always made enough money to feed us, until an economic crisis hit our country in the 1970s. Then they could no longer support the family, and although I trained to be a teacher, I could not put enough food on the table either.

Desperate for a livable income, I packed my few belongings and, with $65 in my pocket, crossed the U.S. border illegally. The first time I hopped the fence into California, I was caught and sent back to Mexico, but I tried again and succeeded. I am not condoning illegal immigration; honestly, at the time, the law was far from the front of my mind. I was merely responding to the dream of a better life, the hope of escaping poverty so that one day I could return home triumphant. Reality, however, posed a stark contrast to the dream. I spent long days in the fields picking fruits and vegetables, sleeping under leaky camper shells, eating anything I could get, with hands bloodied from pulling weeds — the very same hands that today perform brain surgery.

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My days as a farm worker taught me a great deal about economics, politics, and society. I learned that being illegal and poor in a foreign country could be more painful than any poverty I had previously experienced. I learned that our society sometimes treats us differently depending on the places we have been and the education we have obtained. When my cousin told me I would never escape that life of poverty, I became determined to prove him wrong. I took night jobs as a janitor and subsequently as a welder that allowed me to attend a community college where I could learn English.
 
In 1989, while I was working for a railroad company as a welder and high-pressure valve specialist, I had an accident that caused me to reevaluate my life once again. I fell into a tank car that was used to carry liquefied petroleum gas. My father was working at the same company. Hearing a coworker's cry for help, he tried to get into the tank; fortunately, someone stopped him. It was my brother-in-law, Ramon, who climbed in and saved my life. He was taken out of the tank unconscious but regained consciousness quickly. By the time I was rescued, my heart rate had slowed almost to zero, but I was resuscitated in time. When I awoke, I saw a person dressed all in white and was flooded with a sense of security, confidence, and protection, knowing that a doctor was taking care of me. Although it was clear to me that our poverty and inability to speak English usually translated into suboptimal health care for my community, the moment I saw this physician at my bedside, I felt I had reached terra firma, that I had a guardian.

After community college, I was accepted at the University of California, Berkeley, where a combination of excellent mentorship, scholarships, and my own passion for math and science led me to research in the neurosciences. One of my mentors there convinced me, despite my skepticism, that I could go anywhere I wanted for medical school. Thanks to such support and encouragement, I eventually went to Harvard Medical School. As I pursued my own education, I became increasingly aware of the need and responsibility we have to educate our country's poor.

It is no secret that minority communities have the highest dropout rates and the lowest educational achievement levels in the country. The pathway to higher education and professional training programs is not "primed" for minority students. In 1994, when I started medical school, members of minority groups made up about 18% of the U.S. population but accounted for only 3.7% of the faculty in U.S. medical schools. I was very fortunate to find outstanding minority role models, but though their quality was high, their numbers were low.

Given my background, perhaps it is not surprising that I did not discover the field of neurosurgery until I was a medical student. I vividly remember when, in my third year of medical school, I first witnessed neurosurgeons peeling back the dura and exposing a real, live, throbbing human brain. I recall feeling absolute awe and humility — and an immediate and deep recognition of the intimacy between a patient and a doctor.

That year, one of my professors strongly encouraged me to go into primary care, arguing that it was the best way for me to serve my Hispanic immigrant community. Although I had initially intended to return to Mexico triumphant, I had since fallen in love with this country, and I soon found myself immersed in and committed to the betterment of U.S. society. With my sights set on neurosurgery after medical school, I followed my heart and instincts and have tried to contribute to my community and the larger society in my own way. I see a career in academic medicine as an opportunity not only to improve our understanding and treatment of human diseases but also to provide leadership within medicine and support to future scientists, medical students, and physician scientists from minority and nonminority groups alike.

My grandmother was the medicine woman in the small town in rural Mexico where I grew up. As I have gotten older, I have come to recognize the crucial role she played not only in instilling in me the value of healing but also in determining the fate and future of others. She was my first role model, and throughout my life I have depended on the help of my mentors in pursuing my dreams. Like many other illegal immigrants, I arrived in the United States able only to contemplate those dreams — I was not at that point on solid ground. From the fields of the San Joaquin Valley in California to the field of neurosurgery, it has been quite a journey. Today, as a neurosurgeon and researcher, I am taking part in the larger journey of medicine, both caring for patients and conducting clinical and translational research on brain cancer that I hope will lead to innovative ways of fighting devastating disease. And as a citizen of the United States, I am also participating in the great journey of this country. For immigrants like me, this voyage still means the pursuit of a better life — and the opportunity to give back to society."


Source Information:

Dr. Quiñones-Hinojosa is an assistant professor of neurosurgery and oncology and director of the brain-tumor stem-cell laboratory at Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, Baltimore, and director of the brain-tumor program at the Johns Hopkins Bayview campus.

An interview with Dr. Quiñones-Hinojosa can be heard at www.nejm.org.
3911  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / More info on recall on: August 11, 2007, 10:04:24 AM
Mattel apologizes:

http://www.wgrz.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=50073
3912  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Possible exposure to lead from toys on: August 11, 2007, 09:58:08 AM
One of my patients came in and told me he came up positive for lead in an employer urine drug screen.  He said his daughter also was slightly positive.

We brainstormed to consider a source.  His house was built in the 1990's so I doubt lead from paint would be implicated.  He did not have an obvious work exposure.  Then over the next few days came out the reports of Fisher-Price toys made in China have unexceptable lead levels.   I mentioned this ASAP to the patient's wife whom I see regularly.  They have a one year old and newly bought Fisher-Price toys.  I recommended they not throw them out but of course store them far away from the family.

We are still waiting for the blood lead levels results to return.


3913  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Media Issues on: August 05, 2007, 11:30:05 AM
Well I felt your first post was a bit of a brush-off.  Your views on freedom of speech are well known.

I would have figured you would have no problem with it in regards to freedom speech.

I also think that Fox has an angle that implies the freedom of speech of their advertisers is being limited by those who disagree with Fox.   In that regards or perhaps some other, I wondered if Fox had some cause for a civil suit.



 
3914  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Media Issues on: July 27, 2007, 09:51:11 PM
***I have no problem with that.***

Of course you don't. It's not *your* business or your website these people are trying their best to do great damage to.

That was not my question.  My question what legal recourse do they have, if any?

Perhaps none.  I don't know.
3915  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Attorney question on: July 27, 2007, 06:03:28 PM
What legal recourse (if any) does Fox network have against this?  Leftist organizations are contacting those who advertise on Fox network with what sounds like to me a form of intimidation to not advertise on Fox.   It is a clear and organized campaign to harrass and frighten local, small advertisers away.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8QL52780&show_article=1
3916  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Do we really want a personal nanny or a President of the USA? on: July 25, 2007, 09:05:55 AM
Well, the "youtube" "debate" that CNN keeps self promoting as the greatest invention since the wheel certainly proved one thing to me.

And that is that JFKennedy who proclamed, "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country" *could never get elected today*.

The "nanny state" is only going to get worse it appears.
3917  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Vitamin D def. is linked to many illness on: July 21, 2007, 03:47:21 PM
Hi CraftyD,

In the article are published reports of inadequate vitamin D with many illness and diseases but it is unclear how clinically significant these "links" are.  The classic one is weak bone or osteoposis which is actually without symptoms until fractures in the spine occur, or in the hip or wrists or in the ribs after a fall occurs.  In the article the author points a possible link of Vit D and several cancers:
Hodgkins lymphoma, ovarian, prostate, pancreatic, breast, colon.

Links with the malfunction of the immune system and
1) with autoimmune diseases:
Multiple sclerosis, Diabetes type 1, Crohn's, Sarcoidosis, rheumatoid arthritis
2) infections:
TB, Aids

Links with:
Schizophrenia and depression

With muscle strength and falls and osteoarthritis

With hypertension

With wheezing

With fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, and achiness.

Some of these linkages are a bit tenuous and are based on observational studies which show an increased  risk at those people who live at higher geographical latitudes (less sun exposure). But I take away from this article an impression that the overall large quantity of evidence supoorts the theory that vitamin D is far more important in *many more* aspects of our health than we have thought.

From the article is a table that summarizes sources of vitamin D.  It is very difficult to get adequate amounts from our diet alone.
The source from UV radiation (the sun) depends on season, time of day latitude and skin sensitivity. Five to ten minutes a day might be enough to get the O.5 minimal erythemal dose.  I have read in other places that this still does not give enough people adequate Vitamin D stores.

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/357/3/266/T1
3918  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / I like pets doing slapstick better on: July 21, 2007, 09:30:54 AM
Maxx,

You would agree with me on preferring to watch our pets being jokers not gladiators:

   
Provided by: petcentric
Do Dogs Have a Sense of Humor?
More Behavior and Training Articles


Dig for More Dog Information

   1. The Danger of Humanizing Your Dog from: Cesar Millan
   2. Dealing with the Death of Your Dog from: Cesar Millan
   3. Playing With Your Puppy from: Purina
   4. Do Dogs Have a Sense of Humor? from: Petcentric
   5. Preventive Training from: Purina

Does your dog ever make you laugh – on purpose? Does he know he’s being funny? An even stranger question – does your dog find things funny?

There are countless stories of dog antics and behavior that are funny, but most of those you’d have to say are unintentional. Humorous behavior may be repeated because of the positive reaction received. In this case, you can’t say the dog has a sense of humor, but is acting on positive reinforcement.

But dogs may be a little smarter than that. Just as some people enjoy making others laugh, it would seem, so do some dogs. Author Stanley Coren tells of his Cairn Terrier, Flint, who frequently seemed to try to amuse his owners. On one occasion, Stanley’s wife Karen was having friends over for coffee. Flint hung around the guests, perhaps hoping for a morsel of food. Karen shooed the dog away and told him to go find something interesting to do. Flint obediently left, only to return with one of Karen’s undergarments in his mouth. Coren writes, “Evading capture, he proceeded to flagrantly snap it from side to side with great joy—to the amusement of the company and the dismay of my wife.”

Did the terrier know he was being funny? Hard to say, but Coren says Flint did get a great deal of enjoyment out of it.

Now, there are many levels of humor. There’s basic physical humor like slapstick, up to very high-level humor that requires visualization and imagination to appreciate, such as the type comedian Steven Wright so
dryly delivers. A dog’s world of humor would have to be mostly on the physical level, through simply behaving in a goofy manner, or playing little tricks on you.

Of course, some really intelligent dogs may even enjoy a little psychological humor. One dog owner blogs, “I guess you could say… that I startle easily. And now, I live with The Crow - she's an unusually smart dog with a wicked sense of humor. She's decided it's funny to ambush me from the shower stall. Ha ha. Ha. Now I know she's likely to be there, and it doesn't scare me anymore ... not much, at least. Still, there's always a small start when I don't realize she's in there and I turn to see this.”

It’s really not so hard to believe that dogs have the mental prowess to grasp humor, since they so readily grasp the concept of play. Dogs completely understand the difference between play and something more serious, and are careful to make the distinction. For example, one tiny Yorkshire Terrier named Missy is exceedingly careful to make sure the line between play and not-play is very clear. Missy loves to growl and yap ferociously when playing a game with a person. But she’ll abruptly call a time out by running over and licking her human opponent most humbly, as if to say, “Hey, you know this is only a game, right? You know I wouldn’t hurt you.” (As if her five pounds of fluff could ever be a threat.) Once Missy is satisfied that all parties understand that it’s only a game, she’ll go right back to it, acting out her savage beast within.

W. H. "Hank" Halliday, of Wolf Awareness Inc. in Ontario, Canada contends that if dogs have a personality, why not a sense of humor? “Since personalities are a fact in these canids (dogs and wolves), I would suggest humor cannot be far behind. When my dog plays, it is not mechanical. He changes the rules to have "fun" with me. He certainly teases me and I would suggest that teasing is a form of humor.”

As these stories illustrate, if you’ve ever suspected your dog was making you the punch line to his joke… you were probably right.

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3919  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Vitamin D deficiency and insufficiency is amazingly common on: July 21, 2007, 09:18:24 AM
Several months ago I started screening patient's 25 OH vitamin D levels and am surprised to find how frequently it is coming back low.  There is a quiet revolution going on with how medicine is viewing Vitamin D.  I believe it should be standard to screen many if not alll patient's levels.  The historicly recommended daily intake of 400IU per day is grossly inadequate and now outdated.  It is now recommended that we take higher doses.  Low levels of Vitamin D is linked to many more illnesses than just those relating to bone disorders.  A very good review article was published in the recent New England Journal of Medicine.  I don't know if I should post the entire article here, but here are the final conclusions.  I think it very important that patients start asking their doctors about Vitamin D intake and even consider getting their vitamin D level checked. I also conclude it is important for doctors to talk more to patients about this.

I am convinced we will all be hearing a lot more about vitamin D in the lay media.  It may likely be the next big topic for mass media coverage which just loves a good health story.  OK Sanjay Gupta.  Here is your chance to make up for your rather weak performance against Michael Moore.   

Conclusions

Undiagnosed vitamin D deficiency is not uncommon,1,2,3,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,123 and 25-hydroxyvitamin D is the barometer for vitamin D status. Serum 25-hydroxyvitamin D is not only a predictor of bone health8 but is also an independent predictor of risk for cancer and other chronic diseases.8,54,59,60,61,62,63,64,71,72,73,74,75,83,84,85 The report that postmenopausal women who increased their vitamin D intake by 1100 IU of vitamin D3 reduced their relative risk of cancer by 60 to 77% is a compelling reason to be vitamin D–sufficient.124 Most commercial assays for 25-hydroxyvitamin D are good for detecting vitamin D deficiency. Radioimmunoassays measure total 25-hydroxyvitamin D, which includes levels of both 25-hydroxyvitamin D2 and 25-hydroxyvitamin D3. Some commercial laboratories measure 25-hydroxyvitamin D2 and 25-hydroxyvitamin D3 with liquid chromatography and tandem mass spectroscopy and report the values separately. As long as the combined total is 30 ng per milliliter or more, the patient has sufficient vitamin D.7,14,27 The 1,25-dihydroxyvitamin D assay should never be used for detecting vitamin D deficiency because levels will be normal or even elevated as a result of secondary hyperparathyroidism. Because the 25-hydroxyvitamin D assay is costly and may not always be available, providing children and adults with approximately at least 800 IU of vitamin D3 per day or its equivalent should guarantee vitamin D sufficiency unless there are mitigating circumstances (Table 2).

Much evidence suggests that the recommended adequate intakes are actually inadequate and need to be increased to at least 800 IU of vitamin D3 per day. Unless a person eats oily fish frequently, it is very difficult to obtain that much vitamin D3 on a daily basis from dietary sources. Excessive exposure to sunlight, especially sunlight that causes sunburn, will increase the risk of skin cancer.125,126 Thus, sensible sun exposure (or ultraviolet B irradiation) and the use of supplements are needed to fulfill the body's vitamin D requirement.
3920  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Agreed - very sad on: July 19, 2007, 07:37:14 PM
I said to my wife yesterday if one believes in "an eye for an eye" Vick could be thrown into a gladiator ring with another of these guys and asked to fight with knives to the death.   That would stop this practice real fast.

We have three dogs and it breaks my heart to see this.   I really don't get it.

I wonder where Dr. Stone would place this on his "the scale of evil".

It is well known one of the first signs of a psychopathic personality disorder is the person who tortures helpless animals as a child.
3921  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / The Hills association with hedge funds on: July 15, 2007, 11:42:34 AM
Why isn't Clinton going after hedge funds?   Well because they are big donors and they got Chelsea a job:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-11-04-clinton-job_x.htm?csp=34

The conflicts of interests just never ends:

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/DickMorrisandEileenMcGann/2007/07/14/is_hillary_hedging_on_hedge_funds
3922  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Anti-semitism & Jews on: July 14, 2007, 08:44:43 PM
And he was only 45 when he died.

I am surprised 800K is only worth 22 million today.  I remember seeing a restaurant menu once which dated back to the late 1700s.

A recall a steak sold for 2 cents.

Anyway:

http://www.alaskacoinexchange.com/Stamps%2010/10c%20Haym%20Salomon.jpg
3923  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Particular Stocks on: July 09, 2007, 07:06:05 PM
Hi Rick,

Great to hear from you.  Thanks for the excellent post.!!

I guess cable will handle the HDTV bandwidth at the edge until other carriers catch up.  Verizon is starting this on a small scale:

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070709/verizon_cutting_copper.html?.v=1

It seems fiber to the home is still eons away.

3924  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Particular Stocks on: July 08, 2007, 03:22:32 PM
CraftyD,

I own some level three by way of corvis by way of broadwing.  A recent report from LVLT suggests the real tidal wave for broadband will come with the adoption of high definition TV which requires multiple times of bandwidth then anything being used now.   Does Gilder or DMG express any theories as to when this will occur?

Will LNOP's processors also be needed in the middle of such networks?

What about the political risks of owning an Israeli company?  I looked on their website and the only address is listed in Israel.   This makes me warry of investing in an Israeli company.

I noticed the surgical robotics company is doing great.  Now that there are some studies coming out that show reduced risks compared to other surgical techniques as well as healing benefits I would think it only a matter of time till this gets more universally adopted.  If it can be shown that it is *cost effective* by way of reduced hospital stays, less complication rates, etc. - despite the higher costs of the equipment than this seems a no brainer.  It would still take time for the pressures on surgeons to learn this new kind of procedure to override their resistance to change.

It sounds like Medicare does not have any special reimbursement rate for this procedure.  The reimbursement rate for laproscopic procedures is lower than for open procedures.  This despite the fact that laproscopic procedures are technically more difficult for the surgeon to perform.  The reason is that the cost of care for the patient is reduced because of faster healing, faster they can return to work, etc
3925  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Media Issues on: July 08, 2007, 12:28:50 PM
Hi Doug,

***Rush's success and now so many others is based on the fact that a very widely held viewpoint, roughly called conservatism, was and still is under-expressed elsewhere.***

Yes.  The same for Fox network which liberals despise.  Finally, there is a major news network I can turn on to hear views which more closely mirror my own unlike any other station on TV or cable.   And this infuriates the left.  Their bluff is called, and their hypocracy exposed.
3926  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants on: July 07, 2007, 02:44:06 PM
More on my favorite gal who deserves a good verbal spankin'.  Thanks to Dick Morris who is ready willing and able to express better than me my own thoughts on the matter:

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/DickMorrisandEileenMcGann/2007/07/06/do_the_clintons_now_support_jail_time_for_perjurers

The problem with treating the terrorists like criminals worthy of a police crackdown (like the luny right wing fringe with ex front man Timothy Mcveigh) is the terrorists are being sponsored by governments: like Iran, no. Korea, China, and others.

Except for Lieberman we will not see anything else from the Democratic side.  Not that I am anamored by all the cans either.  For me its Newt, then Romney, then either McCain or Guliani.  At this point I don't see what is impressive about Thompson except the antiabortionists needed him for their sole cause.

On the left *maybe* I could live with Richardson just because he is well spoken, talented, smart and seems more or less a straight arrow.  I admit I don't know a lot of his views yet though.

As for attorneys I much prefer former prosecutors like Guliani rather than tort or defense laywers (who are not about *our* defense).
3927  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues on: July 07, 2007, 09:14:48 AM
Has anyone heard the MM discuss any estimates of how many people are coming into this country every year who are not Latino.  From my vantage point I am seeing ever increasing Middle and Far Easterners, Africans, Europeans (like Irish, Polish , Russian) flodding into the US every year.  The ever endless focus on the Mexican border and Spanish makes it look like we are singling out Latinos.  This is not a Latino - nonLatino thing.  This is about the absolute flood of immigrants from everywhere.  It is clearly out of control.

There are far more Asians where I live then Latinos.  Yet everyone looks the other way rather than anyone evaluating this trend and what it means.  In some places i go I feel like I'm in Indonesia.

I don't get it.  I really don't.   Bush without a doubt should have State of the Union Addresses and give us real facts and explain why we should continue to turn our heads over this issue.  Dobbs is about the only one in the media with any balls on this issue.  Yet even he only seems interested in the Mexican Spanish issue.  And that is why he comes of as prejudiced.  Why is it obvious to me that entire regions, towns, are obviously being overtaken by Asians and not a single blirb about this.  What about illegals Europeans - Russians, Poles, Irish.  I am also seeing more and more Africans.  How many of these peoples are here legitimately?   How is it that whole families can come here and have health insurance, Medicare, and attend schools as though they have been here for years?  What is going on?  How is it that there are thousands of illegals working for government agencies?  What is going on?   I couldn't agree with Dobbs more.  I just think he is not recognizing the question of what is going on with these other non Latino immigrants.
3928  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants on: July 07, 2007, 09:00:13 AM
I gotta love a lotta the lines like these:

***Behind all the jihadi nonsense,***

***They'll get back to killing each other in good time. But right now they want to kill us. Meanwhile, we want to persuade them that we're nice guys.***

***But the Bush administration ran out of steam when Iraq didn't turn into Iowa***.

***Oh, I wish we could just buy every terrorist a pint of Ben & Jerry's and make him feel all mushy about surfer-girls in bikinis. Instead, our response to terror is the equivalent of a lawsuit.***

***Here at home, we face maddening calls to extend to captured terrorists the legal rights enjoyed by American citizens. Stop and think about that - really think about it. We're bleeding in multiple wars, and we want to send in the lawyers?***

Are all the crat candidates laywers?  Hillary who says it's a scandal that Bush commuted Libby's sentence for perjury yet, herself is a worldclass psychopathic liar.  Bill who will give us 'his' definition of terrorism before sending his 'army' of NYC/DC liberal lawyers (many of whom I am quite sorry to say are my fellow Jews who you would think would know better when fighting Jihadists).   Edwards who will lead a class action personal injury suit against the radical Muslims.  Obama who thinks we can settle our lawsuit agianst Osama by just leaving the "politics of personal destruction" outside the courtroom of the world.
Kusinich who thinks we just need to make Willie Nelson Secretary of State and send him to Tehran to sing "ON the Road Again".

Joe Lieberman, Cheney, Bush and the temporary Ambassador to the UN (I am going blank on his name for the moment) who seem to view it the way portrayed in this article.

I agree with them.  If the MM is to be believed then I am in the minority.




3929  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Thank allah for bad jihadi driving and poorly built bombs..... on: July 03, 2007, 07:43:38 AM
I wonder if the lastest clowns,I mean Muslim fundis, still get to go to heaven and screw "virgins" even though their attacks failed and all they accomplished was burning up their vehicles and themselves.

3930  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Media Issues on: July 02, 2007, 12:11:53 PM
Funny isn't it.  No mention of Pelosi here - just a Republican Presidential candidate shortly after he mentions his run:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/02/us/politics/02thompson.html?ex=1183953600&en=2bad107c149eed63&ei=5099&partner=TOPIXNEWS

What a joke no?  "Fairness doctrine".  It only applies when the left criticizes the right.  There is no fairness on CNN.  The NYT.  MSNBC.
But that is OK - but wait when we speak of conservative talk radion now we are only getting one side of the story.  I am glad the NYT tried to hit Murdoch.  We need more of the press policing themselves. 

3931  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Health Thread (nutrition, medical, longevity, etc) on: July 01, 2007, 01:01:53 PM
***The carrying of a small disc would seem to solve the problem without the risks***

This is exactly my opinion.  Why not simply carry a disc with the infromation?  We carry ID cards, credit cards, alert bracelets, and passports.  There is *absolutely no* need to "imbed" devices into someone's body.

I do agree with moving medical information onto electronic medium.  As a doctor I can say there would certianly be the potential for a massive improvement on saving, transferring, updating, and completing medical histories, and delivering care. But, this at the expense of very high risk of losing personal integrity.  Especially if a company like MSFT is in control of the software.  Don't think for a minute people at msft are immune to bribery.    I have good reason to suspect they have ways of hacking into things and their excuse would probably be that it is for law enforcement purposes.  The hardware is embedded in the devices so other companies are implicit.  Just a thought.  Does anyone think Sony which invents means to spy onto people's computers would be above seeing what musical creations someone might have on their computers?  I don't.

With regards to the other question I refer to the illegal use of listening devices, tracking devices, probably minute cameras, and God knows what else by "affiliates" of the music "industry".  From top to  bottom there is a code of silence just like there is in sports industries regardinjg steroids.  I can't go into further details at this time.  All I am saying is that ID theft is absolutely only the very tip of the iceberg with regards to the criminal activity involving computers, and all the other means of data being placed onto digital records and moved around by electromagnetic spectrum.  Law enforcement is so far behind and so poorly equipped it is not funny.

Yet many are in a hurry to move our medical records right onto hardware and software designed by the very companies who have history of not being trustworthy.   
3932  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Implanted RFID devices on: June 27, 2007, 01:01:57 PM
IMO this is totally crazy.  Anyone near enough can pick up RF.   Why not implant a listening device or GPS device?  I don't think anyone really understands what we are getting into.  As a person who has been stalked by organized crime people this to me is just plain nuts.  Why can't the person carry a small disc on their person rather than inside their body? I am totally against this.  I don't know which doctors think this is a good idea but they IMO are darn fools.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070626/hl_afp/ushealthsciencetechnology;_ylt=AguKQStm0.XY5conVnrV1usDW7oF
3933  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Broken government on: June 23, 2007, 01:19:38 PM
The NYT should investigate this instead of Rupurt Murdoch.   But then it doesn't fit into their agenda:

From Dick Morris whose work in this area is quite eye opening.  Except for appearances on OReilly I am not sure anyone else is listening:

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/DickMorrisandEileenMcGann/2007/06/20/dems_like_gop_-_like_nepotism
3934  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Toby Keith - "yea write!" on: June 17, 2007, 12:33:06 PM
Notice how Toby Keith has these stories on his website about how he came up with the lyrics for some of his songs.  I *allege* this all  made up.   I believe he is posting this because it is one of his ways of "documenting" something.  I have good reason to believe it is alll made up.   I have reason to believe this guy didn't write these songs.  I guess he is worried enough he feels he has to come up with stories that he believes will help legitimize his claims.   I was telling an Indian colleague of mine how I believe that all the top singers who claim they write their songs are full of baloney and that they don't.  The songs are stolen and transferred or sold to them or the people stealing them are silent partners who get a piece of the action.  His response was you are kidding?  You mean they all lie here like in India!  Everyone in India knows the songs are not written by the stars who claim them.  People here just don't know the same is true here!   Well as is said - live and learn.  Corruption is world wide.   I emphasize these are just my allegations and my beliefs.

http://tobykeith.musiccitynetworks.com/index.htm?id=1341&loc=4#7132
3935  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Disconnect between the American public and reality on: June 17, 2007, 11:13:12 AM
The American public is underestimating the Chinese threat. As usual there are those who think if we just make nice everyone will love us. (a la Clinton)

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2007/ea_china_06_15.asp

The US military is well aware of what is going on.  Gertz is keeping us up on this real challenge:

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20070526-120203-2128r.htm
3936  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The 2008 Presidential Race on: June 16, 2007, 10:50:02 AM
Doug, Crafty thanks.

***free market principal that all the costs of a transaction should be born by the buyer and seller and not innocent third parties***

Well in the case of sugar I guess if we don't impose a tariff then "innocent" Americans lose their jobs.  Is it their fault Caribbeans have a lower cost of living and will and can work at much lower wages?   Or subsidizing farmers may be in the national interest.

Not that I agree with either of these statements I just made but I don't agree with it being that cut and dry either.

I guess if we fully embrace globalization we basically ship all professional and service jobs overseas that are not absolutely needed here.   Of course this benefits others in the long term greater than us - unless we profit form the growth elsewhere with investment.   We are seeing risks all over.  Countries of peoples who hate us.  They try to beat us at our own game.  They try to beat us through subversion.  They try to beat us with gorilla warfare.  They try to beat us with nuclear weaponry (or the pursuit of it).

One Indian immigrant told me that the Indians are hungrier than American born.  That is the reason for their success.
An Iraqi *boasted* to me his son on Wall Street "works harder than the Ameicans".
One could rightly hold that this is one good reason to get such motivated people to come here from other countries.  A big plus for Latino immigrants is that there are many children of Latinos who volunteer for our military. I am grateful.

Has anyone ever heard of an Asain Indian volunteering to fight for America?

Just a bunch of thoughts.  I digress.
3937  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Would have Abraham Lincoln have survived his wounds with today's medicine? on: June 16, 2007, 10:31:19 AM
Very possibly.   He may have even had a shot at returning to a state he could have functioned as President:

http://cbs2chicago.com/homepage/local_story_138113430.html
3938  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The 2008 Presidential Race on: June 15, 2007, 10:51:10 PM
Rogt,

***Does that apply to corporate welfare too***

I hear this phrase a lot.  What exactly does this mean?   What is considered "corporate welfare"?

I am not sure giving tax breaks to companies is necessarily "welfare".

Does it mean money is taken from taxpayers and doled to corporations for votes (or campaign contributions)?  Or the concept that giving corporations a tax break is thus indirectly reducing the piece of the tax income pie that goes to others of lesser means?

3939  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The 2008 Presidential Race on: June 15, 2007, 08:41:23 AM
Rog,

Your right of course.  We all tend to vote our interests.  How much we vote in the "national interests" is certainly a good question.

I certainly do resent people who vote for pols whose quest for votes is appealing to them by promising to take more from me to bribe them with.   Am I being unreasonable?
3940  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The 2008 Presidential Race on: June 13, 2007, 07:30:10 PM
Lower income lesser educated women tend more often to be single mothers of illegitimate children who are struggling financially.  I doubt they are voting some idealistic view concerning abortion. 

Comon Rogt,

Of course they want benefits - bought and paid for by the government.  What issues do you think a woman of lower economic lower education is thinking about?  If they gave a rats behind about Iraq they would be voting Obama or Edwards.
3941  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / girls can marry a guy to take care of them - or vote for the Hillary on: June 13, 2007, 01:08:44 PM
    
Can't get any more obvious then this.  If one can't land a guy to take care of their needs then one can always count on the government to take care of their *issues*.  Who better to make sure government does this than H. Clinton?  Of course she married Bill to get her needs - fame, fortune, and most of all political aspirations.   

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/11/AR2007061102216_pf.html
3942  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / What to do with Einstein (or Cao) on: June 13, 2007, 12:15:29 AM
The question of how do we deal with immigrants who have special quailities that can serve our national interest.

Article by Charles Krauthammer on immigration bill:

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/krauthammer060107.php3
3943  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Dick Morris; this could be included on maplight.org on: June 09, 2007, 09:37:52 PM
The site should expand to include the nepotism going on with our idealistic pols in DC.  Like how many have family memebers who get what any rational person can conclude are bribes for to lobby on the behalf of those paying for influence:

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/DickMorrisandEileenMcGann/2007/06/08/bill_clinton_and_nancy_pelosis_son_get_paid_big_bucks_by_infousa
3944  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Israel, and its neighbors on: June 09, 2007, 11:36:36 AM
Yet we hear from some that the Jews in America control the media and our pols.

Israel cannot count on the US to be there if push comes to shove.  Americans will not want to risk life and limb for Jews.

But, I see this as good news:

http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/thomas052407.php3
3945  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Celebrities - Paris on: June 07, 2007, 01:11:17 PM
 wink

Every day people go to prison.  They teach us in medical school going to prison is one of the worst stresses a person can go through.   This is a perfect example what money can do.  If one can afford to pay for the best lawyers the justice system can be and is skewed.  Why am I not entitled to world class legal care like all of us are entiltled to world class medical care?  Food for thought.  Not a dig against attorneys at all but just a complaint at the lack of accessiblity to great attorneys because of costs.

I don't usually agree with Reverend Sharpton but he is clearly right on this:

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash5.htm
3946  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Chavez likes to distort the numbers on: June 05, 2007, 10:13:31 PM
Naturally (no pun intended) Chavez fails to mention that the hispanic population according to the US census in 1993 was 22.8 million.  Only seven years later it was 35 million in 2000.  At that rate by now it is 48 million!  I can only assume that doesn't include
people who are here illegally.  To say the Latino population is not *exploding* (now more than the number of Blacks in the US) is pure and unaldulterated BS.   Of course she desires to sugar coat it.  Of course she makes this into a racial war.  What about the people here illegally from Europe, Middle East, and Asia?  How many millions are we talking about?  There is no end.   There is no limit.  From my place in the NYC metro area almost every single business I go into has people who are obviously from somewhere else.  I don't get it.  Are all these people here legally or not?   The government is failing the people who are here  legally whether they were born here or elsewhere.  My beef is not with reasonable immigration.  But what I see is crazy.  Decades ago when we had waves of Irish, Italians, Jews, there was no medicaid, medicare, emergency rooms, etc.   I just don't get any of it.  One doesn't know how to believe or what information to trust.  I heard that it is estimated that 40% of illegals are going around using SSN.   What the hell is going on?  Why do I have to be afraid to express outrage?

http://www.census.gov/population/pop-profile/2000/chap02.pdf
3947  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / CD I hear you but, on: June 03, 2007, 10:13:29 PM

Crafty,

I understand what you are saying and

Well yes that's the argument that is made.   And I would submit this has *obvious validity*.  For example we made exceptions after WWII to obtain brilliant minded scientists like Von Braun. [ot: I just saw a cable show that (sadly as far as I feel) we allowed not only people who were swept up by the Nazi tidle wave but advid supporters and architects into the US as well.] Von Braun of course was  great to have for us a nation.

I still am not convinced that Cao cannot apply for or receive citizenship like everyone else.

There is no shortage of Asian/Middle Eastern American doctors from my vantage point!  They are here by the tens of thousands at least in the NYC metro area.  I don't see how they could be practicing with a license if they were not legal.

If Cao is so smart he can marry a Chinese American girl?  I have a South African niece.  It took work, a lawyer, money, time and sweat but she is an American Citizen now.

Like Schwarzenegger.

Was GG protesting this about Cao? GG was the same guy who was proclaiming on his website (in the late 90's) that the export and stealing of military secrets to China was a bogus complaint. He typed on the message board more or less that the Chinese could figure this out anyway so what's the big deal.  But if I had to choose I would keep Cao and send Gilder to China.
To set my opinion straight GG is obviously a genius.  And he seems an honorable man. He invested his own money with us on his stock picks and his business. He made and lost money with us subscribers to his newsletters.  I wonder how many other gurus do this.  He was right about the telecosm just off by an unknown number of years.  But some of his political ideas are based in fantasy and naivity like some his investment ideas - like "listen to the technology" as the key to investing success.  He called Intel, ATT, and Microsoft a bunch of dinosaurs.  Maybe they can be viewed that way froma technology point of view but they are not going away.

Somewhat off the topic: I notice Cao left Avanex before it crashed to one dollar a share.  Or did someone at the immigration office lose their shirt in Avanex and get him deported?  Sorry for my wiseguy remarks here.  I lost a lot on Avanex.  I take responsibility but it is hard not to be annoyed.

As always I appreciate the divergence of views and being able to express them here.

3948  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / CD I hear you but, on: June 03, 2007, 10:10:21 PM
CD I hear you but,
« Reply #109 on: Today at 09:10:44 AM »
   
Crafty,

I understand what you are saying and

Well yes that's the argument that is made.   And I would submit this has *obvious validity*.  For example we made exceptions after WWII to obtain brilliant minded scientists like Von Braun. [ot: I just saw a cable show that (sadly as far as I feel) we allowed not only people who were swept up by the Nazi tidle wave but advid supporters and architects into the US as well.] Von Braun of course was  great to have for us a nation.

I still am not convinced that Cao cannot apply for or receive citizenship like everyone else.

There is no shortage of Asian/Middle Eastern American doctors from my vantage point!  They are here by the tens of thousands at least in the NYC metro area.  I don't see how they could be practicing with a license if they were not legal.

If Cao is so smart he can marry a Chinese American girl?  I have a South African niece.  It took work, a lawyer, money, time and sweat but she is an American Citizen now.

Like Schwarzenegger.

Was GG protesting this about Cao? GG was the same guy who was proclaiming on his website (in the late 90's) that the export and stealing of military secrets to China was a bogus complaint. He typed on the message board more or less that the Chinese could figure this out anyway so what's the big deal.  But if I had to choose I would keep Cao and send Gilder to China.
To set my opinion straight GG is obviously a genius.  And he seems an honorable man. He invested his own money with us on his stock picks and his business. He made and lost money with us subscribers to his newsletters.  I wonder how many other gurus do this.  He was right about the telecosm just off by an unknown number of years.  But some of his political ideas are based in fantasy and naivity like some his investment ideas - like "listen to the technology" as the key to investing success.  He called Intel, ATT, and Microsoft a bunch of dinosaurs.  Maybe they can be viewed that way froma technology point of view but they are not going away.

Somewhat off the topic: I notice Cao left Avanex before it crashed to one dollar a share.  Or did someone at the immigration office lose their shirt in Avanex and get him deported?  Sorry for my wiseguy remarks here.  I lost a lot on Avanex.  I take responsibility but it is hard not to be annoyed.

As always I appreciate the divergence of views and being able to express them here.

3949  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / CD I hear you but, on: June 03, 2007, 11:10:44 AM
Crafty,

I understand what you are saying and

Well yes that's the argument that is made.   And I would submit this has *obvious validity*.  For example we made exceptions after WWII to obtain brilliant minded scientists like Von Braun. [ot: I just saw a cable show that (sadly as far as I feel) we allowed not only people who were swept up by the Nazi tidle wave but advid supporters and architects into the US as well.] Von Braun of course was  great to have for us a nation.

I still am not convinced that Cao cannot apply for or receive citizenship like everyone else.

There is no shortage of Asian/Middle Eastern American doctors from my vantage point!  They are here by the tens of thousands at least in the NYC metro area.  I don't see how they could be practicing with a license if they were not legal.

If Cao is so smart he can marry a Chinese American girl?  I have a South African niece.  It took work, a lawyer, money, time and sweat but she is an American Citizen now.

Like Schwarzenegger.

Was GG protesting this about Cao? GG was the same guy who was proclaiming on his website (in the late 90's) that the export and stealing of military secrets to China was a bogus complaint. He typed on the message board more or less that the Chinese could figure this out anyway so what's the big deal.  But if I had to choose I would keep Cao and send Gilder to China.
To set my opinion straight GG is obviously a genius.  And he seems an honorable man. He invested his own money with us on his stock picks and his business. He made and lost money with us subscribers to his newsletters.  I wonder how many other gurus do this.  He was right about the telecosm just off by an unknown number of years.  But some of his political ideas are based in fantasy and naivity like some his investment ideas - like "listen to the technology" as the key to investing success.  He called Intel, ATT, and Microsoft a bunch of dinosaurs.  Maybe they can be viewed that way froma technology point of view but they are not going away.

Somewhat off the topic: I notice Cao left Avanex before it crashed to one dollar a share.  Or did someone at the immigration office lose their shirt in Avanex and get him deported?  Sorry for my wiseguy remarks here.  I lost a lot on Avanex.  I take responsibility but it is hard not to be annoyed.

As always I appreciate the divergence of views and being able to express them here.

3950  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The 2008 Presidential Race on: June 02, 2007, 07:06:22 PM
Milt,

I agree with your suspicions.  It is akin to "we need all these South of the Border illegals because they are filling jobs we Americans won't do".

To think these people are not taking jobs from Americans is till I see otherwise an urban myth.  It's cheaper labor for business and Repubs and cheap votes for Dems.
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