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3901  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Benghazi, The Petraeus/Susan Rice affair; and related matters on: January 27, 2013, 12:37:06 AM

I agree with Morris here.  The hearing with Hillary should absolutely been straight and direct to the point.  forget about how to prevent this in the future.  Half the country wants to explain covering up a terrorist attack just before an election.

"what difference does it make"

The issue is not how to prevent terrorist attacks.   We already know how to do that.  The issue  is that you, madam sec of state and your appointer PRes. Obama should not cover up and deliberately lie about an attack on the US.

The question is how do we prevent people in our government from breaking the trust with Americans?

Interesting CBS will have a love fest chat with the Prez and the (ex) SoS via their 60 minutes show.   The same network whose director of production wants Obama to "bury" the GOP.

It is time Repubs have their spin correction and truth attack squads out on every network correcting the propaganda  the crap that will emanate from this meeting.

Just like Clinton did to us in the 90's.  Even the tiniest criticism of Bill would result in the Clinton hoards on every single show spinning the truth.  Stephonpolous, CArvalle, Forehead Bagella, Davis, ,DNC chair, and the rest.

We need rapid swat like response team.

3902  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Benghazi, The Petraeus/Susan Rice affair; and related matters on: January 24, 2013, 11:48:13 PM
soloDAD (mouse) now bullies Johnson.   Why can't Repubs stand up to this?  Not even to a mouse?


Are you saying the tears are fake?  Are you ?  Are you saying their fake?  Are you?  Come on, I dare you say it again. 


Talk about protecting one of your gals......The CNN gals are all the same.


"That she got off easy in the hearing and that they did not circle her and destroy her as she leaves office does not mean this is over. "

Half the country agrees.   The other half doesn't care.  Hopefully Bob Grant is right and it won't be the Hill in 16.  Maybe even her own party is tired of looking the other way and defending the Clintons.

Clinton fatigue.   

Good thing no one placed a lamp within arms reach of her during this hearing....  Didn't we just hear about some BS that girls are calmer than men?
3903  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness on: January 24, 2013, 11:26:21 PM
A wild guess.

He voted for the war in Iraq?
3904  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Prostate cancer screening on: January 24, 2013, 10:01:38 AM
IMO a good objective summary of the situation.  The urologists and radiation oncologists have too much financial stakes to be able to give rational explanations.   Don't get me wrong.   Their intentions were honorable in trying to combat this disease, but the fact of the matter is that PSA screening leads to a lot of testing, surgery radiation treatment and much anxiety among people who are found to have it.  I discus  with my male pts. the pros and cons and even give them a website to go to and read if they like and allow them to decide.   Some decide against.   Some appear incapable of understanding the controversies and usually opt for the test,  and a few still want it.   Bottom line I try to inform them the best I can and the choice is theirs.  One caveat about the family history as one reason for men to do the test.   If it is estimated 75% of men over 80 will have prostate cancer (though very few will ever know - unless we do a search and destroy mission) then most men, if they have ancestors who live long enough and get tested they now will have a family history.   When I think of family history being relevant it is more important if they have a family member who either died of the disease or was younger when diagnosed.   The risks are higher for Blacks for unknown reasons (NO it is not discriminatory or racist).
3905  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Benghazi, The Petraeus/Susan Rice affair; and related matters on: January 24, 2013, 09:34:10 AM
Agreed.   And this pathetic show by Republicans only convinces me more this country is doomed to have to go through some catastrophe in order to get back on the right course towards limited government, individual freedom, free markets and fiscal solvency.

Even this they couldn't even get right.   PATHETIC, huh cry
3906  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Way Forward for the American Creed on: January 24, 2013, 09:30:06 AM
With regard to strategy it appears to me that the Republicans do bicker and strategize in public.   This not only serves to highlight the fragmentation of the right giving intoxicated Obama/Biden even more confidence, but give our political enemies time to be prepared with their counter spin with the journalists blanketing all the major media outlets.

I don't know why we can't be more coordinated while having real conservatives quietly and discretely come up with better mass appealing strategies to counter the progressive "journey" as they call it.

Some billionaire - get together a coalition of very strict conservative repubs and very politically savvy pols to combine themes that are both constitutionally consistent within standard American traditions and beliefs and fit today's political demographics.

Someone should say to Blacks - do you all want to work for the post office.   IF this is what you aspire to government to support you, then look at the Post Office's books.  The whole charade will collapse.

Just when you are rising up to truly benefit from America you vote to give up your futures.  Not to protect them.   Why can't Republicans make this argument and make it every day.
3907  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces on: January 24, 2013, 09:18:10 AM
Nice VDH piece,

"That change represents the unspoken reality that socialist redistribution has reduced Europe to near-irrelevancy. Supposedly, free-market Asian economies are the new nexus of wealth and power. Oil and gas finds in America are providing unexpected energy independence from the Persian Gulf. Or perhaps the new strategic emphasis reflects the demographic realities of the Obama coalition of various minority groups -- and fewer European-American voters.

With regard to the first sentence I agree the US is going the same way.  With regards to the third sentence could be a boom if Obama would get out of the way - he won't.  He will allow it to proceed but lonely under extraordinary more than necessary regulation so HE and his kingdom is in control of it all - not the private sector.  And at the same time he will tax the sector so high it's growth will still be muffled and we will still have to pay up for our energy.

AS for the last statement certainly the strategy is to find and maintain a coalition of groups over 51 % to ram through and subjugate those who "cling on to their guns and religion".

VDH, who I agree with Doug is one of our best thinkers and writers.   Has anyone seen if he has written any pieces on strategy.  On how to turn the ship around *before* it sinks?  Personally I am convinced it is too late.

I have lost all faith in Republican leaders.   They botched the Hillary interview.  It was embarrassing to watch her go on offense against them and they respond not with outrage, indignation, making it damn clear  that she should be responsible and guilty for the deaths they let her turn it around and make them look like fools.    As noted by one cable talk hawlk , she came prepared.   She had her team of lawyers prepare her for all questions, all comers, prepare even a crying charade (why is ok for supposedly tough women in important positions to cry - if it was a man he would be ridiculed) and our guys were all fragmented, unable to stay focused, directed, like a good tough prosecutor who is PREPARED.     Woo is us.    EVen this simple task with which they had months - they can't even get this right.

This convinces me more than ever the Republicans will not be able to rise to the occasion.   And Karl Rove is back in the thick of the strategizing.
3908  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Way Forward for the American Creed on: January 23, 2013, 04:25:20 PM
Only Rush can articulate a theme that resonates like he does.

If only we had Republican politicians  with his expressive skills who combine it with more crossover political appeal.

3909  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / subway sub shops sued. on: January 23, 2013, 04:09:57 PM
Apparently their "footlongs" come up short.   I  wonder why people can't sue government sponsored lotteries.  They advertise you win a million, two million, 100 million.  Then for those who do win most if it is confiscated even before they get the check.  To me this is fraudulent advertising.
3910  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / california: happy days are here again on: January 23, 2013, 03:49:39 PM
Thanks to Brown, Kali-fornia has turned the corner (says the Economist).  Now what kind of accounting tricks could account for this?

See!  Things are getting better. wink rolleyes
3911  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Way Forward for the American Creed on: January 23, 2013, 03:44:08 PM
Rush may be on to something.  His show today he was highlighting how Hillary got off easy today and that that is a prime example of the DC elites circling wagons to protect her.   They were not simply protecting her because they care about her personally. But they care about their power.  THEY are the elites.  Not the private 1% ers.  But them.  It is them apart from the rest of America.

This could a theme Republicans can tinker with till they get a solid unifying message that everyone can understand.

It is not just about government.  It is about government AND those "elites" around them.  The, as I call them, the liberal politburo class.   Included are some Republicans.    Some media.  Many academics.   All those who plan what is best for us.

I know I am a bit vague or hazy here.  But I think Rush made a brilliant allusion to a theme that Republicans can rally around. A theme they can banner to turn it around. 

Obama uses a theme of the "99" ers against the 1%.

He of course uses race, minorities to divide and conquer.  Repubs meekly respond with something about government is taking our freedoms.  True but this is simply preaching to the choir IMHO.

I think a better theme is to bash those with major influence and power in DC as diminishing America.
3912  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Egypt on: January 23, 2013, 03:26:31 PM
The sale to Egypt of this military equipment while Egyptians go hungry can only be seen as a signal from Obama to Netanyahu:

"you don't run this show, I am the one who calls the shots and the one who says when where and if."

More pressure against Bibi not to attack unilaterally.

What else can this mean?
3913  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / The liberals "war" on Science on: January 22, 2013, 11:22:07 PM
Interesting twist:
3914  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / home made gun on: January 22, 2013, 10:23:17 PM
one can soon download guns and ammo:
3915  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Brock should fly to China and meet the new leader of China on: January 20, 2013, 12:40:00 PM
according to Economist's lead article:

Brock they say has not met China's new guy for two months and he should have been there immediately.   I don't agree that begging and groveling is the way to go but that is their opinion.
3916  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Obama sending jets/tanks to Egypt. on: January 20, 2013, 08:11:38 AM
I am not clear why Egypt needs these weapons.
3917  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: January 19, 2013, 03:19:34 PM
Interesting.  There are two people identified in the photo as maybe being JWB.  One is enlarged in my second post of photos and one can make out a figure that has a resemblance to JWB.  You cannot really see it without the photo being enhanced while the other guy a little farther to the right who also may be JWB is much clearer.

Is there any record of JWB definitely claiming to have been there?
3918  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / For the record on: January 19, 2013, 03:07:45 PM
And for the record I absolutely would not want him assassinated.

Even more BLVDs, airports, government buildings, schools and the rest will be named after him and he will be elevated to virtual sainthood.
3919  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: January 19, 2013, 03:03:58 PM
After you see the circled guy in the second post above you can go to the first and enlarge and see exactly who they identify as JWB.
3920  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / This guy on: January 19, 2013, 03:02:02 PM;_ylt=Av178uk.1in179vSQFFoJKSbvZx4?p=john+booth+in+lincoln+photo&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-701
3921  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / here is the photo on: January 19, 2013, 03:00:46 PM
3922  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Yes my half of the country will be tuning out. on: January 19, 2013, 02:57:05 PM
A horrible thought

In the one surviving photo of Lincoln's inauguration one can see a person standing not more than twenty feet away who is identified as John Booth.

Hey it ain't me.  Obama and his teamsters love to compare him to Lincoln.
3923  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: US Foreign Policy on: January 19, 2013, 02:33:51 PM

"But the United States has the option of following U.S. strategy in the two world wars. The United States was patient, accepted risks and shifted the burden to others, and when it acted, it acted out of necessity, with clearly defined goals matched by capabilities."

This analogy is totally flawed.  We defeated Germany and Japan by destroying them.  We bombed the hell out of Germany and Japan.  How does that compare to fighting a war on a guerilla's terms?

"with clearly defined goals matched by capabilities." and a plan and time frame to end it.

The descending Colon policy

WE had plans in Iraq.  Get rid of Saddam and establish a Democracy.  We did do that.  It is debatable whether it was worth the effort, or whether it will be long term success or not.

In Afghanistan our goal was to defeat the Taliban and Al Qaeda. 

I must think he is concluding we simply don't have the capability to defeat our enemies today.  And if he means by finding arresting gently placing all "enemy combatants" into a comfortable prison while sparing every other person and entity in the same geography with perfect precision he is right.  If we fight wars like police actions rather than wars we will be dragged into these things for long periods.

3924  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness on: January 19, 2013, 02:15:02 PM
"long form birth records were SEALED"

Yet the left mocks those who questioned this as "birthers"

Yet the left attacks those who questioned this as racist. 

Now even "descending colon" Powell called this racist.
Yes he is full of shit.
3925  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Way Forward for the American Creed on: January 17, 2013, 12:12:58 PM
Rove deserves some credit.  He did get the least articulate person to ever be in the white house elected twice though both times close.

But that is the most credit he deserves.

Again his thoughts while true still miss the mark.

O'Reilly thinks the electorate has changed and were past the tipping point so that more than half  want big government.  Even if they don't its too late because they are getting checks that they will not risk losing. Krauthammer says no that the rise of socialism is temporary and the pendulum will swing back.  O'Reilly responds that he hopes it doesn't take a catastrophe before it does.

As an aside,
I unfortunately moved to NJ.  It is scary to think that Gov. Christy comes the closest to beating Hillary in head to head polls.  On one hand he held the line on some state taxes and confronted the state controlling unions mainly public education which along with the Democrat party has a stranglehold around the neck of taxpayers.  On the other hand he wants the Feds to just hand him 60 billion - no questions asked.  And he demagogues his own party.    IT seems the only way to win in Democrat bastions is to not really be a conservative.
3926  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Rove still misses the point; or at least is not addressing it. on: January 17, 2013, 11:11:28 AM
"Because spending cuts in general and the abstract are popular, while spending cuts in the specific and concrete often are not."

ccp:  Well yeah.  If 50% are getting benefits they will never be convinced to vote the other way.

"Republicans will have to make a concerted effort to connect fiscal policy to economic growth and opportunity"

ccp:  We can't just focus on the debt and growth and ignore all the other social issues.  We have to convince the country that government is NOT the answer to every single discomfort  of humanity.  Like restricting 300 million people from having guns to save "one life".   Like keep one innocent person from jail while 100 guilty get off.  Like making the entire business community have to spend tons to build wheelchair ramps,  Like having us learn foreign languages to cater to newcomers and not the other way around .  The cans have to make their case as how this can be better dealt with without more regulation.  They don't.  I fear we are becoming the party of one subject - the debt.   While this is perhaps the biggest threat this country faces this is not going to win hearts and minds of 50% of the population.

"a vision for bringing opportunity into every life—one that promotes strong families, secure livelihoods, and an equal chance for every American." He credited free enterprise for doing more than anything else "to lift people everywhere out of poverty."  [Ryan]

ccp:  I am not sure how many people who are in the US any longer subscribe to this.  Many appear not to subscribe to "equal chance for every...."  They want security.  They want some socialism.  They don't want equal chance.  They want equal outcomes.

"Facts matter, but they're not enough. It's life stories and narratives that capture the public's imagination. That's something every Republican must internalize in the spending wars ahead. We need to move not simply minds but also hearts, to show what the "right to rise" means for every American"

ccp:   OK we need to inspire people to be what it used  mean to be American.  Now it means get the check, avoid as much taxes as possible because they are too ubiquitous, and how to game the system by both sides - those who are getting screwed and have to pay all the bills for the Democrat party vote buying and liberal politburo utopian everyone is equal vision or those who are jockeying to get these gifts.
This is what America has become.   Thanks to the Democrat party led by their chosen spokesperson.
3927  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / For "righties" on: January 16, 2013, 11:45:19 PM
3928  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Shock! Schumer for Hagel on: January 16, 2013, 11:40:47 PM
For Democrats party is ALWAYS first: rolleyes
3929  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Joe scarborough on: January 16, 2013, 10:56:43 PM
I can't say I have ever loved the guy but he has become despicable.

Every single time I patrol the cable news and turn on his show he is bashing Republicans. 

That is all he does.

Instead of preaching conservatism and boosting the Republican party he has become an enemy to our side.  He is no better than the liberals he sits with.
3930  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: We the Well-armed People (Gun rights stuff ) on: January 16, 2013, 10:50:02 PM
Crafty posted:

"I would say that a significant MAJORITY of Americans support our gun rights and a significant minority would entertain notions of resistance."

And I would add we can be very sure the Obama administration's Dept. of HS is making, keeping, cataloguing,  watching and studying lists of that significant minority.

3931  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / flu vaccine tax on: January 12, 2013, 03:07:45 PM
I read the reasons proposed.

There is just no end to the imagined wasy to make people cough up more money.

It appears to be limitless.   cry

3932  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Ben Shapiro on: January 12, 2013, 02:47:48 PM
This kid Ben Shapiro is on to something. 

I was reading in the Economist an article on Richard Nixon's library.  How origianlly the Watergate thing was downplayed but now it is run differently it is more the other way around.

The called him Tricky Dick.  They call his political strategies "tricky".

Like going negative on opponents.

Mr. Shaprio would explain this a good example of why Republicans are losing.

The left calls Nixon's politics dirty, tricky.

When they do it, or BOama does the same thing, they call it playing "hardball".

Shapiro is good at pointing out the subtle differences from the MSM, and the Dem party party strategists.

Shaprio worked with Brietbart.
3933  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: January 12, 2013, 02:40:20 PM
Hi Doug and happy New Year to you and my other forum friends.

Dr. Fuchs has had many articles published in the medical journals so that is where I have seen his views before.  One clarification.  The interview I posted was March 2012.  However, his prediction that it would take some sort of major event (like a market crash) before health car policy change could be implemented politically was, I have read, one he has been making long before.  I read his almost verbatim prediction in an article dated back to 2003.  I might hazard to guess people like him were thinking the same thing after the Hillary Care failure back in the 90's.

Certainly he is correct that health care cost's are unsustainable.  He does seem to agree that whatever the changes are to be made it must take into account our country's perhaps unique political, cultural and social values to get political traction.  I am not sure he is enthusiastic about the poltical reality or just recognizing it.  I think most conservatives agree that health care costs are unsustainable and prefer market private market forces to fix them.  I think he is leaning this way vs the left ultra liberals who simply want to ram down one payor government regulated unversal health care down all our throats. 

As I have stated before I am not sure what the answer really is.  I still come to the conclusion (and hope) that modern technology will find cures, better treatments for chronic conditions that allow all of us not only to live longer but be productive longer, work longer and not simply live longer taking more social security, medicare dollars  using up nursing home space etc.

Fro example a real way to treat osteoarthritis and dementia so people can work and live productive lives longer.  Not just play golf longer while collecting their checks.
3934  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / victor fuchs March 2012 on: January 10, 2013, 10:03:27 PM
One economist on the politics of health care.  I would describe him as one of the more conservative members of the "politburo."  Note how he predicted that it would take a economic crash like what we saw in 08-09 to get health care reform.  The libs were ready.  Unlike the smaller minded conservatives who are caught on their heels:
3935  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Way Forward for the American Creed on: December 30, 2012, 02:19:56 PM
This is obviously why we know next to nothing about Brockman's time at Columbia.

Certainly he was indoctrinated by the politburo there.  The Ivy politburo's are the masterminds and he is thier spokesman.

3936  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / GM: think long game on: December 29, 2012, 04:42:03 PM
GM, if you are right and there is a giant crash, the Republicans have to in the words that Rahm Emanuel borrowed and expressed,

"let no disaster go to waste".

Repubs and teapartiers still have to be ready to seize back power when the time is right.  If WE are not ready, the liberals, with a newer version of socialist, communist, one world government will be there to fill the void.

From history

Vladimir Lenin waited his entire adult life fighting for his bolshevik cause, shaping it, studying, re-shaping it more, studying more, getting his propaganda out there so to speak, when to his surprise the time was right several months after the Tsar lost power in 1917 to make his move.  He had his supporters in place, he was known throughout socialist circles due to his propaganda newspapers, and he made his appearance back in Russia with his small circle of accomplices and by sheer force of will, determination, and single mindedness accomplished his goals.   Interestingly, it appears he was coming to the conclusion the time to do this would not come in his lifetime.  He was wrong.  But he was ready nonetheless.

Fast forward to the present time and it is obvious there are no such visible leaders in our party.  No one even close to a Lenin who comes to mind.  No doubt many conservative thinkers including Newt are rethinking this all through.  Till we have OUR ONE we have to hope they can shape things behind the scenes.

If I was younger and smarter I would have liked to have been part of it.  The struggle for freedom has returned.  Some don't see it.  Some don't care,.  Others are bribed.  Some are only looking at their specialty groups agendas.  

Time will tell.  I dread the reality of  of another 4 yrs of the present abomination.

3937  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Norman on: December 29, 2012, 04:28:29 PM
His IQ was 170!  I think Einstein was est. ~ a measely 165.

3938  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Way Forward for the American Creed on: December 29, 2012, 04:20:45 PM
Crafty excellent points.  Thanks for some thoughts.  In addition to these thoughts

I would also like to add that we have to "break" the stranglehold the Dem party has with minorities.  By segmenting the market of voters (if we can borrow a marketing phrase) into gays, blacks, latinos, women (particularly single), labor and bribing each group with different big gov agendas they have achieved enough numbers to win.  This we know.  This we can see.  Somehow we (republicans) have to reshape the debate.  We can't keep segmenting the electorate into groups and bribing each one lest we wind up with tyrannical government that controls too many sectors too many voters, whether tax paying or on entitlements, without each and every one of them becoming controlled wards of the "state".

This line of reasoning fits in to my thoughts about attracting more Blacks to the party.  We have to do better than we have at convincing them that they are making a big mistake in being hard core democrats.  The Dems may promise them entitlements but they are also using them to push the overall progressive agenda.  And this agenda cares NOTHING about Blacks.  It is about one world government, loss of US sovereignty, autonomy, less personal freedoms, more government control and dispersing wealth not strictly to them, but around the world.  Some Blacks are fully aware of this.  Just as they are finally achieving more in US society, they are inadvertantly supporting a party that is controlled by socialists who are planning to give it all away (except their own power).

Monica Crowley had a great guest on her radio show today.  This is exactly the theme I was thinking.  Mr. Bryant was head of the NAACP in the late 80's when he was asked to deliver a speech about pro abortion while representing the NAACP.  He then realized he, as a Black man was being used, not for the agenda of Blacks, but for the agenda of the liberals.  Folks, when her refused to give this speech, because he is anti-abortion, there were many calls for him to removed from his postion.  He realized the DEm party is co -opted by the socialists and left it.

Check out this link and see for yourself.  I think he is a great spokeperson for the teaparty.  I think the right has to learn from this:

(I hope this workss - I cannot link here but typed in  the link)
3939  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / ruminating; moved here from the media thread on: December 21, 2012, 07:20:55 PM
You're right (as usual).  I don't want a crash.  It doesn't have to be either tyranny or total anarchy.

Your right that there seems to be this subset of voters who either don't vote, or can change their minds about who to vote for on the basis of a single news story or how they feel that day.  These voters are still deciding the elections I guess.

While the Dems seem to win some over with Christmas gifts the Repubs only have ideology and the evidence.  Can that win over enough voters?

Thank God for some like Levin or Limbaugh.  If only we had savvy pols on our side who had *their* gift of gab and charisma.  If Romney only had some of that.  Except for the first debate.....

Gingrich was close.  He had some of it.....

How do we convince people the government is not good to depend on.  We can talk debt, deficit, spending, forever but how do we get people to have the courage and the faith to give up their government assistance??

Some people are worried.  They are not simply moochers (though some certainly are).  They are fighting a losing battle to pay their bills.  They are scared. 

We may be able to win the hearts and minds of some of the middle clas, but how do we convince them to risk their pockbooks to the Republicans?

3940  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Media Issues on: December 20, 2012, 11:55:59 AM
"low information voter"

Doug,  I know what you mean.

But I really think it unwise politically to assume that many voters for the Dems are just plain ignorant.

I think most know exactly what they are voting for.  That is entitlements and make the rich pay more.  

I am not so sure Boehner is wrong to cave.  No matter what, the Republicans always get the blame for these budget battles.  Look at Clinton/Gingrich.  Look at Obama/Boehner #1.

As long as the voters perceive other people footing the bill (increase taxes on the rich) they are more than happy to have a deal that does exactly that.  

The Republicans do not have the same jorno*list* and talking heads/points (propaganda machine) and the right spokespeaple to do anything about this.

The risk is we do not have a crash and then the Liberals come out with extreme power.  The benefit of a crash is that may be the only way to stop the liberal/media/union/university politburo planners agenda.

This may be the only way out.  shocked angry cry
3941  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Benghazi, The Petraeus/Susan Rice affair; allegations of military misconduct on: December 19, 2012, 12:25:00 PM
Hillary's concussion is as believable as Obama's tears.  Notice he was wiping the outside corner of his eye repeatedly.

Folks those are hollywood fake tears.  Real tears drip near the nose.
3942  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / If go after guns better go after the freakin media on: December 19, 2012, 12:21:31 PM
I'll never forget doing a psychiatry rotation when we as medical students were invited to listen to an interview of a teenager with diagnosed boderline personality disorder.

It was quite chilling listening to him describing with glee in his eyes a scene from Rambo (I never could sit through the entire movie so I never verifed the scene) when Rambo holds his huge knife blade up to someone's throat and said, " I can kill you anytime I want".

This kid then stated, "I think THAT is the coolest thing I HAVE EVER SEEN!"

I don't want a  ban a guns but if it does happen, damnit, we need to censure Hollywood and tax the shit out of the entertainment hypocrits who deliver huge quantities of endless violence, sadistic, gore and thrive quite well doing so.
3943  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / better than "slave masters" on: December 14, 2012, 07:32:39 PM
the liberal elites are the new Politburo.

3944  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Yes!Right On! Perfect!Couldn't have said it better... on: December 14, 2012, 07:29:24 PM
though I have tried.

The above piece is brilliantly written.

*NeoCom* - perfect!  We need to start this phrase with proper attribution around a better structured conservative version of the "journo-list".

I love the quote of Winston Churchill - an earlier version of the twisting of phrases "trickle down wealth" vs. "trickle up poverty".

Interesting history on FDR.  A true limo-inheritance liberal, if you will.

As for the Brocksters and his communist storm troopers using the word "forward" I am not sure it is either from FDR or Mao.  This word goes much further back in history to European socialist movements.  Nonetheless, the astonishing use of the word, as he points out, could not be more overt as to Obama's real political loyalties and beliefs.

Rahm Emanuel made clear his description of the "opportunity" the near depression of late 2008/early 09 gave the NeoCOms just like the depression gave FDR his opportunity.

Gotta love the Pravda author's pointing out the absurdity of Putin running on Reagna themes while here we have the opposite (the pravda piece I believe was noted on the Forum previously).

And yes as Rep. Ryan pointed out we are on a journey of a dull life all planned out for us by our "beloved" intellectuals at places like Harvard and Yale to the extent that none of us are free.

I add to this that our new slave masters are the liberal elites of our universities who have come up with Obamacare, cap and trade, indoctrination (as GM has smartly expressed as going on for decades) of our children.

3945  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Clinton has affected American Politics like no other in my opinion on: December 12, 2012, 01:44:30 PM
Recently MSNBC's Lawrence ODonnell (duck) claimed that Newt Gingrich had far more lasting effect on our political culture than Reagan Clinton or the two Bushes.

He claims that Gingrich was the tax cutter of the century.  That Gingrich came up with the phrase that tax hikes will reduce jobs and that that has been the Republican mantra since and this phrase more than anything has affected our politics.

I say that Clintonism has affected our politics far more and insidiously and way to the detriment of our culture our politicals, our supposed media watchdogs, our morals, our ethics.

Since Clinton has dumb downed American politics to such an extent there is simply NO lie that is no biggie, No immoral action that is no biggie,
no twisting of the truth to totally absurd levels, that is no biggie, no length to which the libs in the media will go to protect their guy, no bribe that is not biggie, even to the extent that a PResident lied to cover up an embassy attack for fear it would resemble the Terhan attack of 1976 and hurt his election.  If hostages were taken.....
3946  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Gay & Straight on: December 12, 2012, 01:34:00 PM
Hi Doug. 

Lets take it one step further.

The "60's left" has been the biggest proponent of free love, sex outside the marriage is no biggie, premarital sex, partners living together, the celebration of single motherhood, divorce has skyrocketed etc.

Yet we now have the same croud screaming with a media/entertainment blitzkrieg about gay marriage as just another civil rights issue.

Somehow the logic is all twisted and I can't think that it is anything more than for financial reasons.  The morality arguments just don't hold water to me.

As Rush today has elaborately described the Democratic party as basically a coalition of different intersts groups, unions, gays, minorities and women (mostly single mothers) all funneling votes and dollars to them in return for the political might of the entire national Democratic machine it all comes down to money. 

The blacks want reparations, the Latinos want entitlements, the single mothers child support because their low income jobs don't pay for more than one person, the gays want the benefits of marriage (yes I agee it is also to be considered "normal" and just an alternate lifestyle), the unions are merely money laudering operations for their kingpins and the crat party operatives etc.   
3947  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: US Economics, the stock market , and other investment/savings strategies on: December 11, 2012, 06:02:09 PM

ON DMG, a "bull?"

with taxes going up? 
3948  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Gay & Straight on: December 11, 2012, 05:51:48 PM
CNN repeating Justice Scalia's logic that he is entitled to consider gay marriage immoral.  Of course the intent and the implication is that he is prejudiced for this opinion or belief.

Yet CNN repeatedly goes after bigamists who are that way for their religious beliefs.

Why do they selectively choose to market that gay is completely ok and just another lifestyle but bigamy is somehow some sort of crime against humanity.

I hold that legislators are entitled to decide whether either is immoral and if they so choose legal.

The logic is sound to me.
3949  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces on: December 11, 2012, 05:47:05 PM
John D Rockefeller wealth was estimated at 1.4 billion when he died in 1937.  The US GDP was est. at 92 billion.

According to the recent cable series on the "men who built America" he was worth an estimated 600 billion in today's dollars.  Ten times more then todays richest people.

Now that is real money.
3950  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces on: December 09, 2012, 02:33:10 PM
Dowd continued,

and ushers in the age of government tryanny.

As for blacks supporting the first black president it is not about that as much as supporting a Democrat and big transfer of wealth government.

As for women it mostly single young mothers who also want to have wealth transferred to them.

As for Latinos it is not about self deporting - it is the same - transfer of wealth to them.

As for gays a large part of it is financial benefits. 

As for the Gone With the Wind reference with regards to the Republican party being racist - well it is better used to describe America as an idea, a concept, a way of life with limited government and real freedom from tyranny.  You can confiscate only so much, print money out of thin air, borrow from other countries so much.

Gone with the wind is America as Dowd and her ilk move to one world government, void of religion, void of personal freedom, constant management and oversight,
endless nit picking all the same time government grows it's control and power.  Government that is still run by human beings who are just as corrupt as any in the private sector.

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