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3951  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Tea Party, Glen Beck and related matters on: April 10, 2012, 02:31:49 PM
" I’m tired … of a certain section of people acting like they have having a monopoly on patriotism. They don’t. … And so now I’m saying, ‘two can play that game if you want to.’”

Oh yes.  Van Jones loves America.  The second part is basically what him and friend Brock are doing - spinning all the criticisms of them back to the Republicans.  Like for example when Brock is called radical he simply calls the right radical.  Like when he is called a socialist he calls the right socialist or with a new twist, social darwinists.

The Prez has led us down a road of child like tit for tat.

I am not sure if any President has ever divided Americans into different groups the way this guy has.

Lincoln tried to keep us together not the other way around.

Limbaugh asks why he is such an angry Black man.  He says his mother was white, his father was African (not a slave dependent).  He himself has done quite wel with lots of help from whites.  I think this is the wrong question. But it is obvious he has chosen this route.  It is not just politics or contrived.  He is angry.  Always has been.

I don't think one can separate Jones from Brock.  Once Brock is out of office hopefully Jones will fade.
3952  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Lecturer in chief gets a lecture on: April 10, 2012, 12:31:26 PM
3953  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: April 10, 2012, 11:32:52 AM
You will NEVER see any "quality" measures come out of ivy academia for a result such as you describe.

Such superb world class orthopedic care does not show up on any Harvard outcomes study.

We are lumped together into population studies and statistical measures.

3954  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Tax Policy on: April 10, 2012, 10:43:08 AM
One opinion on bankruptcy and IRS debts:

I wonder if this person had a problem with the progressive tax code when she was making a social workers salary?

In the meantime 139K of gov. student loans are otherwise forgiven.  Still not too bad.
3955  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of the left on: April 09, 2012, 04:59:59 PM
"they scapegoated a single unnamed producer, firing him late on the Friday before Easter/Passover weekend so no one would notice."

How do we know THIS is true?
3956  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: April 09, 2012, 01:24:02 PM
"78 he was too old to treat"

Ironic as I don't even think 78 is that old at all anymore.

Indeed this is roughly the average lifes span for a man in the US now.
3957  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Tax Policy on: April 08, 2012, 12:04:12 PM
"I am not without a goodly amount of sympathy for this particular woman."

Well she got a loan debt written off.   The issue is not lets just talk about writing off her tax burden too and narrow the focus to this particular sob story.  The focus should be that the tax laws are totally crazy in this country, unfair, and without any limit.

To me taxes are a Democrat party extortion scheme.
3958  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / tax break of disabled student on her student loans on: April 07, 2012, 11:04:16 AM
The whole theme of this liberal story is the poor disabled student whose loans are considered income and now she owes taxes on them.  He loans should be forgiven and of course her taxes too.  NO mention of tax reform.   No discussion of the burden on the rest of us who are paying taxes (up the ass);  just another "F" liberal  MSM sob story:

Bottom line make the "rich" pay up.
3959  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / The left misusing the phrase civil disobedience on: April 07, 2012, 10:57:21 AM
They never stop distorting and spinning.

I watched for a few minutes Chris Hayes leftist propaganda show this AM and the topic is civil disobedience.  Now I am thinking what in the world is a liberal propaganda show speaking of civil disobedincen the left is all ABOUT huge government control over every aspect of our lives and promting class warfare and redistribution of wealth.   JUST THE OPPOSITE of what "civil disobedience" is all about!

So I note they are referring to climate change.  Again they have that loon Van Jones on who is all over the talk show circuit promoting the left agenda:
3960  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: April 05, 2012, 09:01:05 AM
"I’ve been growing weary of hearing people mention that he’s a “constitutional scholar,” since he never published a single thing on the subject either as editor of the Harvard Law Review or as a member of the faculty at the University of Chicago Law School.  But hey—he taught constitutional law, didn’t he?"

Excellent point.   I remember at least one faculty colleague of Brock in Chicago state on the Marc Levin show how he never knew Brock show any real interest in Constitutional law.

On Fox they had a former student of Brock come on the show and state how he was literally shocked by Brock's essentially a threat to the Supreme Court concerning their review of the Health Care law and that if they vote against that he will do everything he can to undermine their legitimacy and integrity and paint them as "activist" etc.  He said this was unprecedented and Obama clearly knows this.   What he was not asked was what he thought of Brock as a Consititutional Law professor.  I was hoping they would ask him this.

The evidence I read is the whole "professor thing" was more of a way station while he was honing his political connections.

3961  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: April 05, 2012, 08:53:28 AM
Anyone else notice the Democratic party reframing all Republican themes and spinning it the other way around:

1)  Republicans are calling Obama a radical :  The crats are calling Repubs the radicals.

2)  Obama calling the Court "activist".

3)  Obama spinning the "socialist" label given to him by calling Repubs social "Darwinians".

4)  Republicans calling for limited government switched to essentially no government.

To me the social Darwinian comment is by far the biggest tipoff.   Basically he is saying that "free market", "competition", "capitalism", is "radical" and social government manipulation and regulation is mainstream.

Obama clearly has is backwards but until Romney can better enunciate hwo this is wrong and how this is exactly the opposite as to what made this country great the crats are very adept at bribing voters with taxpayer money.

*If* it is tru that female voters (surely mostly single mothers) are willing to throw the American ideals into the garbage heap of history for their little pet gov. programs than I guess the game is over.
3962  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: April 03, 2012, 02:21:54 PM
Even THIS line comes out wrong cry cry cry cry
3963  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: April 03, 2012, 01:28:44 PM
Here it is..... Well it is kind of a double entendre......Even this from the Romney's.... has a double meaning shocked

ALBANY — Republican front-runner Mitt Romney just needs to unzip and show the world he’s not that stiff.

That’s the word from his wife, Ann Romney, who defended her husband Monday against criticisms that he’s too rigid - as in humorless.

“Well, you know, I guess we better unzip him and let the real Mitt Romney out because he is not,” Ann Romney said in an interview with a Baltimore radio station.

Read more:
3964  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: April 03, 2012, 01:25:21 PM
"bad news for Mr. Romney is that his inability to generate much excitement among women"

Didn't Mrs. Romney say something to the effect that she is going to "unzip" Mitt?
3965  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Savage on: April 03, 2012, 10:45:35 AM
I actually like his radio show better than Levin's.   At least drudge gives him some airtime while Fox bans him.  He calls O'Reilly the "lephrechan".  I happen to like OReilly too.

Thank God the congress and the senate are likely to be repubs.  If Obama wins again, which I doubt, at least he can be countered.

I could not imagine Obama unleashed for a second term.
3966  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: April 03, 2012, 10:22:12 AM
At least a good part of it is the single mother crowd.  They want the government to be the sugar daddy.
Dead beat dads don't help.

The degeneration of the family nucleus.

We can thank the liberals for this.
3967  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Khairat al-Shater on: April 02, 2012, 12:29:44 PM
Muslim Brotherhoods pick for President - spent years in jail under Mubarak.   Not "particularly fond" of Israel but appears to support trade and the Camp David accords and may be less anti Israel than other potential Brotherhood party members:

****Zvi Bar'el / In Egypt, Muslim Brotherhood does not necessarily spell family
The Brotherhood's decision to name a presidential candidate is causing panic in the movement and throughout Egypt, but the military and the secular public have not yet had the final word.
By Zvi Bar'el
Tags: Egypt Muslim Brotherhood

  Get Haaretz on iPhone Get Haaretz on Android The Muslim Brotherhood‘s decision to field Khairat al-Shater as a candidate for Egypt’s presidency has stirred panic not only throughout Israel, but throughout Egypt as well, and even within the Muslim Brotherhood itself.

Supposedly, the Muslim Brotherhood’s goal is to seize control of every outlet of the Egyptian government, from the parliament - in which the Brotherhood won forty seven percent of seats - to the constitutional drafting committee, which has a majority of religious members. Now, the actual presidency is in the Brotherhood's sights.

  Khairat al-Shater, the Muslim Brotherhood's third-highest ranking member in Cairo, February 28, 2007.
Photo by: Reuters 

Nevertheless, the decision to field a presidential candidate should not worry Israel as much as the Muslim Brotherhood‘s resounding victory in the elections should .It is still widely unknown what kind, and how much authority the president elect will have, as the constitution has yet to be drafted - a process which will no doubt cause even more political in-fighting.

However, even if a new president is granted a wide range of powers, (which would still be far less than those bestowed on former president Hosni Mubarak,) the Egyptian parliament already holds vast powers in terms of determining both domestic and foreign policy – powers that any president, whether or not he hails from the ranks of the Muslim Brotherhood – will have to reckon with. For example, should the Egyptian parliament wish to alter, or even cancel the Camp David agreements with Israel, it could do so even without a Brotherhood president.

Senior representatives of the Brotherhood, especially Khairat al-Shater, have made it clear that they are obligated to uphold the Camp David Accords, as well as every other agreement Egypt has made with foreign powers, including the agreements to sell oil and natural gas to Israel.

Al-Shater, a millionaire and successful businessman, has many talks with high-ranking U.S. officials under his belt, including talks with U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, from whom he requested economic aid. Al-Shater, like his fellow Brotherhood leaders, is not particularly fond of Israel, but it is likely that his disdain for Israel is not as intense as that of Amr Moussa, former Arab League Secretary General, or any of the other 200-plus presidential candidates.

It is important to remember that in fact, veteran left-wingers led the criticism of Anwar Sadat’s signing the peace agreement, and secular intellectuals, journalists, actors, and lawyers were those who cemented the real foundation of the boycott of Israel.

Al-Shater’s stance illustrates the difficulties a religious party faces in trying to adopt an unbiased ideology. This is not surprising. The Brotherhood has influenced and intervened in Egyptian politics since its inception in 1928, and it cannot step aside and let others take away its political achievements. Since its activities were outlawed in 1954, the Brotherhood has not ceased its nationwide spread. The Brotherhood’s most impressive political victory came in 2005, under Mubarak, when the Brotherhood was able to win 88 seats in parliament. Throughout the years, the Brotherhood has been able to neutralize criticism for participating in politics, neglecting the Islamist vision - the ideal of creating one Muslim nation not cooperating with regimes considered to be heretical. Long before the most recent uprising, the Muslim Brotherhood has not had a problem cooperating with left-wing groups, youth movements, or liberal organizations.

The necessity to come to terms witht he Egyptian political reality is what pushed the Brotherhood into fielding a presidential candidate of its own. It was a difficult decision, and the fact that 52 of 108 members of the Shura Council voted against fielding a candidate only further illustrates the difficulty of such a move.

Mohammed Badie, leader of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, is plagued not only by theological misgivings, but by tactical misgivings as well. Will fielding a Brotherhood candidate cause a rift in the movement? Is it impossible, at this point, to bolster the candidcay of Abdel Munim Abu al-Futuh, a member dismissed from party ranks after announcing his participation in the race? Perhaps Badie should unite the movement now, after learning of his high levels of support among young members of the Brotherhood?

Could the brotherhood also put a hamper on other religious candidates, like the leader of the Salafi movement?

Creating a rift among the different religious voices could bring failure to the movement. Could the fact that the Brotherhood changed directions despite its previous decision not to field a candidate erode the party’s image, portraying it as a party that cannot live up to its promises?

Despite these difficult questions, the Brotherhood decided to act like any other political movement, determining that it cannot neglect any branch of politics. Rumors have already spread in Egypt that the Brotherhood decided to field a candidate in an attempt to twist the arm of the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces, which did not allow the Brotherhood to create a new government despite its requests, and showed intent in changing the composition of the constitutional drafting council.

However, the threat of a Brotherhood candidate does not necessarily frighten the Egyptian army, which still has the power to change the composition of the constitutional council, and influence the amount of authority a future president can hold. The army could allow the Brotherhood to create a new government, in return for letting go of its designs on the presidency.

The army could even allow the Brotherhood to run for the presidency, but insist on setting the precedent that the army will in fact determine the president’s political authority.

The army is not the only barrier. The opposition movement - secular parties and various public figures - have already started acting against appointments to the constitutional council, with some resigning from the council and threatening to draw up their own constitution. And of course, Tahrir Square has yet to have the final say.

Read this article in Hebrew.****

3968  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / and Charlie on: April 02, 2012, 12:03:13 PM
Charlie "dog"?

This karate expert chimp was on Ripley's last night.  Kind of cool.
They show him breaking boards with 360 degree spinning back kicks!
These animals are incredibly strong.  I recall it was estimated a 150 chimp could do the equivalent of a 600 pound deadlift.

Needless to add about the poor laday whose face was literally ripped off a few year back:
3969  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Iran leadership far more honest than Obama on: April 02, 2012, 10:42:36 AM
Iran leadership has been quite clear about their intentions.  Obviously they can see Obama is not on Israel's side in seriously stopping them from getting nuclear weapons just like anyone of us.   Nothing new here:

*****02 April 2012 - 16H11   

Iran vows to stick to nuclear 'path'
A picture released by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's official website shows him (right) listening to an expert during a tour of Tehran's research reactor centre on February 15. Iran declared on Monday it will not be swayed from its nuclear "path" by sanctions, a week before talks with world powers that are increasingly seen as a last chance for diplomacy in its showdown with the West.
A picture released by the Iranian president's official website shows a metal-encased rod with 20 percent enriched nuclear fuel as it is inserted into a reactor in Tehran on February 15. Iran declared on Monday it will not be swayed from its nuclear "path" by sanctions, a week before talks with world powers that are increasingly seen as a last chance for diplomacy in its showdown with the West.
Iranian Minister for Foreign Affairs Ali Akbar Salehi is seen prior to his speech at the opening day of the United Nation Human Rights Council annual session on February 27 in Geneva. Iran declared on Monday it will not be swayed from its nuclear "path" by sanctions, a week before talks with world powers that are increasingly seen as a last chance for diplomacy in its showdown with the West. AFP - Iran declared on Monday it will not be swayed from its nuclear "path" by sanctions, a week before talks with world powers that are increasingly seen as a last chance for diplomacy in its showdown with the West.

"The sanctions may have caused us small problems but we will continue our path," Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi vowed in an interview with the official Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA).

"We do not underestimate any enemy, no matter how tiny and lowly they are. The regime's officials -- the supreme leader, the president, the army, the (Revolutionary) Guards and Basij (militia) -- are completely vigilant. And the nation is prepared to defend the achievements of Islamic Iran," he said.

The defiant words came after US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Saturday that the talks between Iran and the world powers would take place April 13 and 14 in Istanbul.

She and US President Barack Obama have both publicly said that the window for diplomacy in the standoff over Iran's nuclear programme is closing.

"Our policy is one of prevention, not containment," Clinton said in Saudi Arabia after talks with her Gulf Arab counterparts.

It is up to Iran to engage in the talks "with an effort to obtain concrete results," Clinton said.

Israel -- the sole if undeclared nuclear weapons state in the Middle East -- and the United States have threatened military strikes against Iran's nuclear facilities if diplomacy and sanctions fail to curb the Islamic republic's nuclear ambitions.

The UN Security Council has imposed four sets of sanctions on Iran because of suspicions over its nuclear programme, which the United States and its allies believe includes a drive to develop atomic weapons capability.

The West has imposed its own unilateral economic sanctions on Iran.

But Iran's oil minister, Rostam Qasemi, told the Mehr news agency on Monday that the West's efforts to curb Iranian oil exports "have been a failure".

"We have seen off what they describe as 'rigorous sanctions' against the oil industry," he said.

Iran denies any military dimension to its nuclear activities.

Its supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, has called nuclear weapons a "sin". But he has also refused to bow to sanctions, and warned Iran would retaliate in kind if attacked.

Foreign ministry spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast said in an interview with the Fars news agency that Iran considered the talk of war to be a "psychological" gambit "to affect the Iranian nation, to lower the support of the people for the system."

But, he said, "our readiness (to ward off any threat) is at its peak. We take any threat, even those with a low probability of happening, seriously.

"If any practical action, either surgical or long-lasting, is taken, we will respond decisively."

The talks between Iran and the P5+1 group -- the five permanent UN Security Council members plus Germany -- are seen as an opportunity to defuse the tense situation.

EU officials in Brussels said that, despite Clinton's affirmation, Istanbul had not yet been fully confirmed as the venue.

"The talks are scheduled to start late on the 13th and will be held primarily on the 14th," one EU diplomat told AFP on condition of anonymity.

They will "very likely" take place in Istanbul, but all parties had not yet reached complete agreement, the diplomat said.

A spokeswoman for EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton, who represents the P5+1 in the negotiations, said only: "We will announce it (the venue) formally once we have full agreement."

The last round of talks between Iran and the P5+1 group was held in Istanbul in January 2011 and ended in failure. Geneva hosted the round before that in late 2010.

The United States is poised to bolster unilateral sanctions that are already making it harder for Iran to sell its vital oil exports. Countries that do not reduce Iranian oil imports risk being targeted by US sanctions.

But Salehi stressed to IRNA: "The West thinks that Iran is like many other countries who will yield under America's pressure. But they are mistaken."

He said Iran had resisted Western pressure ever since it became an Islamic republic following its 1979 revolution. And he said the United States would be forced to retreat from its positions if Iranian "national unity" was strengthened.***

3970  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Azerbaija/Iran an ancient relationship on: March 30, 2012, 02:38:01 PM
Interesting about recent leak to media about Israel using Azerbaijan as a base for a possible attack on Iran.  Apparantly Iran has been trying to arrange terrorist acts in that country in apparant retaliation for Azerbaijani security arrests:

****Deterioration of relations in 2012In 2012, three men were detained by the Azerbaijan Ministry of National Security for planning to attack Israelis employed by a Jewish school in Baku. Security officials in Baku linked Iran to the planned terror operation. The men allegedly received smuggled arms and equipment from Iranian agents, possibly as retaliation to the assassination of Iranian nuclear scientists. Wafa Guluzade, a political commentator close to the Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev, warned Iran that "planning the murder of prominent foreign citizens in Azerbaijan by a band of terrorists, one of whom [Dadashov] resides in Iran, amounts to 'hostile activity' against our country."[40]

Irani-Azeri relations deteriorated further after the Azeri Communication Minister, Ali Abbasov accused Iran of carrying out cyber attacks against the country.[40]

On March 2012 Azerbaijan arrested 22 people on suspicion of plotting attacks on the U.S and Israeli embassies in Baku on behalf of neighboring Iran. The ministry said that the suspects were recruited from 1999 onwards and trained in the use of weapons and spy techniques at military camps in Iran to enable them to gather information on foreign embassies, organizations and companies in Azerbaijan and stage attacks.[41][42]***

3971  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Media Issues on: March 29, 2012, 06:28:46 PM
Your right.  The 911 dispatcher did not actually tell him NOT to chase Martin just said what you said.  There is a difference:

"I don't see how neighborhood watch can be construed to be ok to chase someone down a street with a gun."

Well wasn't he carrying a gun?   I assume concealed.   

He did follow Martin who appears to have tried to flee.   Martin undertandably felt threatened and at some point confronted Zimmerman who was carrying a concealed weapon.

Perhaps Zimmerman was just trying to keep an eye on Martin till the police arrived.

But he chased the guy down.  This is not self defense.
3972  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / From American College of Physicians on: March 29, 2012, 03:54:41 PM
This is off the first page without need for a password so I think it ok to print.  I note Dr. Hood's Masters in public health is from (you guessed it)  *Harvard*.  I remember a few decades ago I once considered getting a degree in pulbic health to help shape the "future" of health care but the stuff was simply too boring.  I don't agree with the College's position on this yet I believe part of it is due to a pragmatic political approach to inevitable changes that must take place or else this country will go bust.

****The Present and Future of the Affordable Care ActMarch 26, 2012tion:
Virginia L. Hood, MBBS, MPH, FACP
President, American College of Physicians

Washington — The American College of Physicians (ACP), representing 132,000 internal medicine specialists and medical student members, is pleased to report that the Affordable Care Act (ACA) has resulted in major improvements in access and coverage for tens of millions of Americans seen by internal medicine physicians. Considering that it is just a little over two years since the ACA was enacted into law, and many of its programs are not yet fully effective, the ACA has had notable success in improving health insurance coverage. Looking to the future, the ACA will ensure that nearly all legal residents in the United States will have access to affordable coverage beginning in 2014—if the law is allowed to be fully implemented.

Interestingly, the public policy discussion of the improvements made by the ACA on its two-year anniversary is taking place in a context when the Supreme Court is hearing oral arguments this week on lawsuits challenging the law’s constitutionality. ACP did not submit an amicus brief on the constitutional questions being considered by the Supreme Court because our expertise is in evidence-based assessment of the policies required to ensure that our patients have access to health insurance, not in constitutional law. But the evidence leads us to firmly believe that the ACA’s programs to expand health insurance coverage—including subsidies, health exchanges, essential benefits packages, an individual insurance requirement, and a single national eligibility standard for Medicaid—are necessary to help protect and ensure the health of the American people.

The ACA Already is Helping Millions of PeopleAs a direct result of the ACA:

2.5 million young adults kept their health insurance coverage because they were allowed to stay on their parents’ plans. The percentage of people between ages 19 and 25 being carried as a dependent on a parent’s employment-based coverage increased from 24.7 percent in 2009 to 27.7 percent in 2010. The number of young adults with employment-based coverage as a dependent increased from 7.3 million to 8.2 million.

Through the end of July 2011, 1.28 million Americans with Medicare received discounts on brand name drugs in the Medicare Part D coverage gap — up from 899,000 through the end of June and 478,000 through the end of May. These discounts have saved seniors and people with disabilities a total of $660 million. Figures released a week ago from the Department of Health and Human Services indicate 5.1 million seniors have saved more than $3.2 billion on prescription drugs because of the ACA.

More than 18.9 million Medicare beneficiaries, or 55.6 percent, have received one or more preventive services at no out-of-pocket cost to them.

The National Health Service Corps, which receives mandatory funding under the ACA, has awarded nearly $900 million in scholarships and loan repayment to health care professionals to help expand the country’s primary care workforce and meet the health care needs of communities across the country. There are nearly three times the number of NHSC clinicians working in communities across America than there were three years ago—increasing access to health care. In 2008, approximately 3.7 million patients were provided service by 3,600 NHSC clinicians. With field strength of more than 10,000 clinicians, NHSC now provides health care services to about 10.5 million patients.

The ACA will Help Many Millions More over the Next Two YearsMany patients seen by internal medicine specialists have multiple chronic diseases (often labeled as “pre-existing conditions” by health insurers), which makes it very difficult for them to find health insurance at a premium they can afford. Under the ACA, insurers won’t be allowed to exclude them from coverage, charge them an excessive premium, or refuse to renew their coverage. These protections, already in effect for children, will become effective for adults on January 1, 2014.

Studies suggest that an individual requirement is needed for such reforms to work. Without an individual insurance requirement, some people may wait to obtain insurance until they are sick, aware that insurers will not turn them down or charge them higher premiums (except for family size and tobacco use). This will drive up premiums for everyone else, causing more persons to drop coverage, and potentially, resulting in millions more uninsured persons.

ACP also strongly supports requiring Medicaid to cover all persons with incomes up to 133 percent of the Federal Poverty Level. This change, which initially will be paid for by the federal government, is the most effective way to ensure that low-income persons have access to coverage. Some 16 million vulnerable Americans will receive coverage from this change.

When these and other programs enacted by the ACA become fully implemented by 2014, it is estimated that 94 percent of legal residents in the United States will have access to affordable health insurance coverage, with 32 million persons who now have no health insurance being able to obtain coverage. This will be a historic achievement in improving the health of the American people. Studies show that people without health insurance live sicker and die younger than people with coverage.

ACP fervently hopes that the Supreme Court will chart a course that does not derail implementation of the ACA’s key programs to expand coverage, while responsibly carrying out the court’s constitutional obligation to clarify the constitutional questions. And we hope that a day will come when Congress will be able to move beyond a partisan debate over “repeal and replace” of the ACA to discussion of bipartisan improvements that could be made in the law, without sacrificing the commitment it made to helping nearly all Americans obtain affordable health insurance coverage.


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3973  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Media Issues on: March 29, 2012, 03:17:53 PM
This Martin/Zimmerman situation is horrible enough but the explosion of emotion on the media is unbelievable.

Of course we keep hearing all these new pieces of evidence but I have to agree with Judge Napolitano that he probably should be arrested and charged.   While Martin may not be an angel he was not the instigator at least initially, and the 911 dispatcher did advise Zman to back off and it appears he didn't.  I don't see how neighborhood watch can be construed to be ok to chase someone down a street with a gun.

I guess this has many issues involved:

Racial profiling
concealed weapons
Fla unique stand "your ground law" (which to me has nothing to do with this - someone following another on public property)
gangster apparal

A trial seems to me the only way yet it would be OJ Simpson all over again.
3974  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Energy Politics & Science on: March 28, 2012, 04:24:12 PM
"its pervasive dishonesty"

Wow - almost the "L" word!
3975  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / J eff Toobin: Law will be struck down on: March 27, 2012, 05:09:22 PM
Doug writes,
"I imagine one could go wrong guessing their opinion by hearing their question."

Jeff Toobin whom we all know, and admits his forcast appears to have been dead wrong thinks the line of questioning by the Justices is quite telling:
3976  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Media Issues on: March 27, 2012, 04:01:40 PM
Another news report noted the French police had asked the video not be shown.
3977  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Another Reid deal on: March 27, 2012, 01:32:02 PM
January 30, 2007
Dems Should Dump Ethically Challenged Harry Reid
By Dennis Byrne

Instead of talking in sweeping platitudes about "ethics reform," Senate Democrats might want to prove they mean it by dumping their ethically challenged majority leader, Harry Reid.

The Nevada lawmaker has been implicated in yet another land scheme that this time could net him a tidy $50,000 to $290,000. Los Angeles Times investigative reporters Chuck Neubauer and Tom Hamburger, this week revealed that Reid paid $166 an acre for valuable northern Arizona land whose market value, according to the county assessor, four years ago was worth $2,144 an acre.

Who would be a big enough fool to sell Reid the land at such a ludicrously low price? A long-time pal who would financially benefit from some obscure legislation that the senator has often sponsored.

 It worked like this, according to the Times:

In 2002, Reid (D-Nev.) paid $10,000 to a pension fund controlled by Clair Haycock, a Las Vegas lubricants distributor and his friend of 50 years. The payment gave the senator full control of a 160-acre parcel in Bullhead City that Reid and the pension fund had jointly owned. Reid's price for the equivalent of 60 acres of undeveloped desert was less than one-tenth of the value the assessor placed on it at the time.
Six months after the deal closed, Reid introduced legislation [which failed to pass] to address the plight of lubricants dealers who had their supplies disrupted by the decisions of big oil companies. It was an issue the Haycock family had brought to Reid's attention in 1994, according to a source familiar with the events.

If Reid were to sell the property for any of the various estimates of its value, his gain on the $10,000 investment could range from $50,000 to $290,000.

It is a potential violation of congressional ethics standards for a member to accept anything of value -- including a real estate discount -- from a person with interests before Congress.

Reed apparently prefers to put his gains into dry desert land instead of into cold cash, as did Rep. William Jefferson (D-La.), whom the FBI said was harboring $90,000 in marked bills in his home freezer.

Last year the Associated Press disclosed that Reid "collected a $1.1 windfall on a Las Vegas land sale, even though he hadn't personally owned the property for three years." The deal was "engineered by Jay Brown, a longtime friend and former casino lawyer whose name surfaced in a major political bribery trial [last year] and in other organized crime investigations."

Reid and his office have denied any improprieties in these matters. Reid's spokesman noted that the transaction was "a sale, not a gift." The wording of the denial is interesting because Reid is co-sponsoring legislation that would ban "gifts" from lobbyists - or their clients - to lawmakers or their staffs. Reid himself touted that legislation in a Jan. 9 press release, "Reid: The Senate is committed to tough new ethics reform."

In a press release a day earlier ("Senate Democrats highlight commitment to tough new ethics reform"), Reid proclaimed: "The American people demanded change, and Democrats are ready to deliver. The new Democratic Senate is committed to giving American (sic) a government as good--and as honest--as the people it serves. The Senate will start with legislation that is good, and working together, we'll improve it to make it even better. In the end, the Senate will pass the most sweeping reforms since Watergate."

This is exactly the kind of hypocrisy, from both parties, that turns off so many Americans. It a word, it makes Americans vomit.

Let it not go by unnoticed that claiming and getting full credit for this brand of Democratic "ethics reform" is the luminous Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama of Illinois. "Now that the dust has settled and the new Congress is underway," he intoned, "we need to get down to business and show Americans that we are responding to their call for change. We now have the opportunity to give the American people what they deserve and demanded in November--real ethics and lobbying reform that holds their elected officials to the highest ethical standards."

This is from a senator who tromped around Africa, trailed by an adoring throng of media panderers, who condemned corruption there, but had nothing to say about the graft pervading his hometown and state. Quite the contrary, Obama last week endorsed Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley for re-election this spring, even though the suspected, indicted and convicted percolate through his administration like water through a coffee-maker.

You've got to hand it to Reid. With a record like his, to claim that he is the champion of a new day of congressional ethics takes a lot of brass. He could prove it by resigning. Or Democrats could prove it by giving him the heave-ho as majority leader.

Dennis Byrne is a Chicago Tribune op-ed columnist.

3978  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / More Reid shenanigans on: March 27, 2012, 01:30:26 PM
3979  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Reid's pet project on: March 27, 2012, 01:28:18 PM
Sure this could be the usual pork project but someone who has time and the wherewithal should look into whether Mr. Reid owns any land or is joint owner of any land anywhere near this project.  This has bribe written all over it and the Reidster was noted for this kind of thing before:

****Lead StoryHarry Reid’s Pet Bullet Train Project on Verge of Securing $4.9 Billion Government Loan
By Doug Powers  •  March 26, 2012 03:32 PM **Written by Doug Powers

“Woo! Woo! Next stop, bankruptcy!”

Early last year Joe Biden and Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood announced the administration’s intention to sink $53 billion into high speed rail systems in the coming years. That news must have invigorated Harry Reid more than a cowboy poetry reading under his pomegranate trees, because now taxpayers might end up on the hook for an amount of money that could make Solyndra look insignificant:

On a dusty, rock-strewn expanse at the edge of the Mojave Desert, a company linked to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid wants to build a bullet train that would rocket tourists from the middle of nowhere to the gambling palaces of Las Vegas.

Privately held DesertXpress is on the verge of landing a $4.9 billion loan from the Obama administration to build the 150 mph train, which could be a lifeline for a region devastated by the housing crash or a crap shoot for taxpayers weary of Washington spending.

The vast park-and-ride project hinges on the untested idea that car-loving Californians will drive about 100 miles from the Los Angeles area, pull off busy Interstate 15 and board a train for the final leg to the famous Strip.
Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood has publicly blessed the train — it means jobs, he says — and it’s cleared several regulatory hurdles in Washington.

Yet even as the Federal Railroad Administration considers awarding what would be, by far, the largest loan of its type, its own research warns it’s difficult to predict how many people will ride the train, a critical measure of financial survival, an Associated Press review found.
Let me get this straight… the Obama administration might put taxpayers on the hook for billions to pay for a train so people can travel to the city that a couple of years ago Obama told them not to waste money in? “All aboard the Mixed Message Express!”

Then there’s the inevitable “well, we were gonna do this ourselves, but since you offered…”****

3980  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: After Obama's "last election" on: March 27, 2012, 11:27:03 AM
"Of course we should not presume to know his meaning or context; he could have playing mind games to our advantage with the Russians."

Doug, possible but you would agree this very unlikely?  I mean his attempts to "reset" the relationship with Russia his well known desire to decrease nucs, etc.

I think it more like what he is thinging as in they "cling to their guns and religion" remark.
3981  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / "Transformation" down our throats on: March 27, 2012, 10:25:53 AM
Agreed.  The open mic talk clearly raises questions about what the big lib has in store for Americans whether they like it or not once he no longer has to worry about his poll numbers.   What I do take note as that even MSM types are playing the open mic thing.  CNN and I think ABC.  I am surprised they didn't blow it off.  Of course the Obama minions will be out in force making up some sort of phoney concoction that tries to spin it all away. 

My post from the Russia thread:

"This certainly makes one speculate that Obama, if he wins, will absolutely cut lose on his leftist agenda far beyond what we have seen."

3982  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: US-Russia on: March 26, 2012, 04:47:14 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if OBama asked him for a campaign donation and promised after the election he would cut Vladimir a good deal.

This certainly makes one speculate that Obama, if he wins, will absolutely cut lose on his leftist agenda far beyond what we have seen.

I wonder if this was before or after he handed over all the codes.
3983  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Nothing groundbreaking on: March 26, 2012, 02:29:12 PM
but a good synopsis of Hillary as SOS - In 2016 She will be 69 same age as RR:
3984  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Johnson family gossip on: March 24, 2012, 02:26:54 PM
A distant relative of Abe Lincoln married Eliza to Andrew Johnson (long before Abe was President) when she was 16 and he 18:
3985  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Don't mess with my boy on: March 24, 2012, 02:20:06 PM
says this lady of Dick Morris' rant:
3986  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Allen West on: March 23, 2012, 01:28:23 PM

What was Trayvon was doing in Sandford?   Whatever the reason sounds like Zimmerman did the wrong thing yet this question is not irrelevant.
3987  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: We the Well-armed People (Gun rights stuff ) on: March 23, 2012, 12:51:12 PM
Well I guess there IS some pressure.  Though great one's (no not Marc Levin or Rush Limbaugh) response is not helpful:
3988  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: We the Well-armed People (Gun rights stuff ) on: March 23, 2012, 12:09:56 PM
"I thought Obama was the post-racial healer"

Exactly.  Instead of feeding the shark frenzy how about Obama calling for calm and to stop the race baiting and threats of violence and the ridiculous attempt at turning this into a Democrat Republican thing.

To date he has not done this with any similar situation.   He simply tries to make political self gain out of it.

He did sit and have "a beer" with the Harvard professor and the Cambrige police officer after that bruhaha some years ago.   But only after HE, the ONE, looked like a fool weighing in and calling the police officer stupid.  It was more for damage control to HIS image rather than anything else.
3989  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / OMG; ok lets turn this into a race war on: March 23, 2012, 11:12:46 AM
We all know the anti gun crowd will go bonkers over th Sanford Florida thing but turning into a Demcratic party theme and of course the Farrakan/Sharptons of the world threatening to turn this into a race war.  Of course Obama is going to weigh in (oh, but he was pressured) .  There is never an end to the escalations, the attempts at extortion for more and more and more.  Why cannot this tragedy be dealt with as the individual case it is?:
3990  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / liar liar liar - except Obama on: March 23, 2012, 10:59:21 AM

Is rachel maddow a liar?
3991  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / War with Iran and gas prices on: March 22, 2012, 07:57:53 PM
.......How a War With Iran Would Cause $7 Gas

By Rick Newman | U.S.News & World Report LP – Wed, Mar 21, 2012 3:47 PM EDT
If gas prices are still close to $4 per gallon when Election Day rolls around, President Obama will face tough political odds. But Obama--or his successor--could end up with a far worse problem than that in the not-too-distant future.

Forecasting firm IHS Global Insight has run a detailed scenario on how a war with Iran would affect oil prices and the global economy, with disconcerting takeaways for anybody sensitive to oil and gas prices--including politicians. The forecast says that if a military campaign over Iran's nuclear program prompted Tehranto lay mines in an attempt to shut down the Strait of Hormuz, Brent crude prices could soar from current levels of about $125 per barrel to a peak of roughly $240. Gas prices would rise by the same magnitude--pushing them above $7 per gallon.

In the model, oil and gas prices probably wouldn't stay at those levels for long. Any major disruption of oil markets by Iran would likely bring a rapid and overwhelming response by the U.S. military, including attacks by ships and aircraft already stationed around the Persian Gulf. IHS predicts U.S. forces would probably be able to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, the world's most important oil chokepoint, in four weeks or less. But it would still take months for oil prices to settle back down to normal levels, while consumers and businesses grappled with collateral damage to their finances.

Most economists estimate that the threat of confrontation with Iran has already pushed oil prices up by about $20 per barrel.. In the United States, gas prices have risen by nearly 55 cents per gallon so far this year to a national average of $3.92. In addition to hurting consumers, that impacts investors, speculators and business leaders, who are all intently focused on oil prices and where they might be heading.

In its scenario, IHS assumed that Iran will use mines, missiles and small-boat swarming tactics to shut down the Strait of Hormuz, through which about 20 percent of the world's traded oil flows every day. That could come in response to a U.S. or Israeli preemptive attack on Iran's nuclear facilities, but Iran could also make such an aggressive move on its own. "Iran's leaders have done things that we expect rational leaders to avoid doing," Farid Abolfathi of IHS told clients in a recent presentation. "They might miscalculate or misjudge their chances of success."

Even though the model predicts U.S. forces could probably reopen the Strait fairly quickly, it might still take a while to completely defeat Iran. ines are notoriously tricky to clear and some could lurk undetected, threatening tankers for months. Iranian submarines and small attack boats could hide amidst a large fleet of civilian fishing vessels in dozens of villages and island harbors, mounting follow-on attacks on tankers and American ships.

The forecast also says that if oil were to rise to more than $200 a barrel, it could induce panicky consumer behavior, such as drivers topping off their gas tanks regularly out of fear that gasoline might run out. Lines at gas stations reminiscent of the 1970s might form. Pump prices would rise in line with oil prices, and stock markets could easily fall by 10 or 20 percent, possibly spurring a new recession.

IHS goes on to predict there would also be urgent efforts to relieve the supply crunch, such as a generous release of oil from emergency reserves in the U.S. and Europe. Saudi Arabia would be pressured to tap all the spare capacity it has, and export as much as possible via pipelines that run to the Red Sea. Many nations would institute rationing schemes and strict conservation measures.

Those actions, combined with the rollback of the Iranian military, would bring oil prices down to an average of about $160 per barrel for three months or so, then back to around $120, IHS believes. So the whole affair might rattle markets for six months or so, and perhaps end with something like a return to the status quo.

If it were to happen, the timing could upend American politics. A war with Iran in the fall, leading up to the elections, would intensify the financial pain soaring gas prices have on the typical American family, with gas costing them an extra $100 per month or more. But a surge of patriotism might offset that, electorally speaking, helping Obama more than it hurts him.

IHS assume that its scenario takes place at the beginning of 2013, which would saddle the U.S. president with one more tough and complex problem at the same time that momentous decisions about tax cuts (or hikes) need to be made, and big cuts in federal spending are due to kick in. Wriggling out of a recession under that blend of economic pressures would be an impressive Houdini act for whoever is president in 2013.

There's one other scenario, of course: Some kind of diplomatic resolution that avoids a military confrontation and pushes oil prices down instead of up. That would mean politics as usual, which is ugly enough. But the politicians, at least, would have one less thing to argue about.

Rick Newman is the author of Rebounders: How Winners Pivot From Setback to Success, to be published in May. Follow him on Twitter: @rickjnewman

3992  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / "L" word on: March 22, 2012, 06:30:52 PM
Doug it is ok here but don't go on CNN and use that word.   [Well maybe it would be ok if it was a Republican.]

3993  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness on: March 22, 2012, 08:18:40 AM
Doug that video is a riot.   The greatest mind to ever occupy the WH using canned words.  As for Denmark everyknows Danes can't box cheesy

"Yo, Ben, I got your back bro."  wink
3994  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Israel, and its neighbors on: March 22, 2012, 08:12:03 AM
And let's not forget Hillary has responsibility here. 

The brave champion of women's rights around the world.

I suppose Zakaria will be out in full force this weekend spinning the tale of Obama's brilliance in all this.
3995  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Tax Policy on: March 21, 2012, 05:05:50 PM
On the eve of IRS day I post this challenge from Buchanan to Obama (sorry Rachel, I guess you no longer come to the board loaded with troglodytes so I what you don't see won't offend you; beyond that absolutely nothing personal meant and I do hope you will return to posting on the forum).

In any case here is Pat's pointed challenge:

***The glaring inequality of Obamavilleby Patrick J. Buchanan03/20/2012
CommentsRising inequality "is the defining issue of our time," said President Obama in his Osawatomie speech that echoed the "New Nationalism" address Theodore Roosevelt delivered in that same Kansas town a century ago.
In the last two decades, the average income of the top 1 percent in the U.S. has grown by 250 percent, bemoaned our populist president, while the income of the average American has stagnated.
"This kind of inequality -- a level we haven't seen since the Great Depression -- hurts us all," said Obama.
"Inequality ... distorts our democracy. ... It gives an outsized voice to the few who can afford high-priced lobbyists ... and runs the risk of selling out our democracy to the highest bidder."
But is the president, a former disciple of radical socialist Saul Alinsky, truly serious about closing the inequality gap?
Or is this just political blather to frame the election year as a contrast between Barack Obama, champion of the middle class, and a Republican Party that supposedly hauls water for the undeserving rich?
Obama's retort to those who say he is waging class warfare?
Republicans alone prevent him from raising the top U.S. income tax rate from 35 to 39.6 percent, where it stood under Bill Clinton, and advancing America toward true equality.
Republicans reply that the top 1 percent of U.S. taxpayers already carry 40 percent of the income tax load, while half of the nation and a majority of Obama voters pay no income tax at all. Moreover, these free-riders also consume almost all of the $900 billion the nation spends annually on Great Society programs.
Yet, a path has just opened up to test the seriousness of the president, to determine if he is a phony on the inequality issue, or a true egalitarian eager to close the gap.
That opportunity comes from a report last week that income inequality in America is at its greatest in the electoral precinct where Obama won his largest majority: Washington, D.C.
In Washington, the top 5 percent of households have an average income of $473,000, highest of all of the 50 largest cities in America. The average income of the top 20 percent of district households is $259,000. Only San Francisco ranks higher.
Moreover, that $259,000 average household income for the top 20 percent is 29 times the average household income of the bottom 20 percent, which is only $9,100 a year.
The citadel of liberalism that Obama carried 93-7 has a disparity of incomes between rich and poor that calls to mind the Paris of Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette.
Washington is a textbook case of the inequality that Obama says "distorts our democracy," and it is the ideal place to prove that he is serious.
For Washington is Obamaville. The mayor is a Democrat. The city council is Democratic. There are more lawyers and lobbyists concentrated here than in any city in America.
Here we have the perfect test case -- the most liberal city in the republic, with the greatest income inequality, where Obama's political clout and personal popularity are highest. And there is no obstructionist Republican cabal to block progressive reforms.
If Obama and the Democratic Party will not use their power to close the inequality gap right here in their own playpen, how do they remain credible in Middle America?
How to proceed, if the left is serious about inequality?
Consider. The District of Columbia income tax reaches 8.5 percent after the first $40,000 in income. A 5 percent surtax takes that rate to 8.95 percent for incomes over $350,000.
Yet, half a dozen states have higher and more progressive income tax rates than that.
Obama should call on his allies in the city government to raise the district income tax to the 15 percent level New York had in the 1970s.
Since district income taxes are deductible against federal income taxes, this would translate into an actual top tax bite on the Washington rich of 9.75 percent. Is that too much to ask of true progressives?
The new revenue could be transferred to Washington's working class and poor through tax credits, doubly reducing the district's glaring inequality.
Republicans will argue that raising the district tax rate to 15 percent on incomes above $250,000 will precipitate an exodus into Maryland and Virginia, where the top tax rates are not half of that. Conservatives believe as an article of faith that tax rates heavily influence economic behavior.
But Obama, who has kept the U.S. corporate tax rate among the highest in the world and wants U.S. personal tax rates raised closer to European levels, rejects this Republican argument.
Has he the courage of his convictions?
When the district's schools were desegregated in the 1950s, liberals fled. Let us see if they will stick around for a "progressive income tax" to reduce this unconscionable inequality between Kalorama and Spring Valley -- and Anacostia and Turkey Thicket.

3996  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: March 20, 2012, 02:05:36 PM
"All this is more than a little frustraing to me.  Where's the well organized coherent statements of Romney or Saintorum"

Indeed. Romney will have to make these distinctions himself - over and over - and not let the dishonest leader in chief continue to get away with such distortions of the truth.  The MSM certainly will not call out OBama.  This AM CNN is showing one of the anchors making smirks and faces when speaking of Senator Brown of Mass calling for an additional opening of the immigrant gates for thousands of Irish.   She was clear that this is no doubt *political* pandering and will open flood gates from every other ethnic group.

She is exactly right.  The problem is CNN rarely calls out the Brockman the same way like they do Republicans.

So it is for Romney to articulate the lies falsehoods, distortions of Obama and team.

It is still early but one has to ask who is running Romney's team.  This stuff is not rocket science.  Why can't the ahndlers come out with scripts for the manager to study.  He can memorize.
3997  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iran on: March 20, 2012, 10:26:48 AM

Another release of "classified" military non information that expresses what any idiot can see.

OK Franks what is the alternative to military stirke that will stop Iran from going nuclear?  The answer is nothing.  The plan is obvious - containment and hope for the best.

I am sick and tired of the WH releasing only information that will help with its re election.

If we are not going to back Israel then just say so.

Stop the double talk, the "I have your back" crap.  "No options are off the table" nonsense.  And we know Iran will strike back in subtle ways at first and there is no end to this as long as we don't deal with it fully now.

It seems to me that military action should include their government that is causing all this not most of the Iranians (at least as is reported)
3998  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / "deleveraging" a thing of beauty on: March 19, 2012, 03:11:22 PM
Ray Dalio
Man and machine
The economic ideas of the world’s most successful hedge-fund boss
Mar 10th 2012 | WESTPORT, CONNECTICUT | from the print edition

 And my returns look like this
“THE most beautiful deleveraging yet seen” is how Ray Dalio describes what is now going on in America’s economy. As America has gone through the necessary process of reducing its debt-to-income ratio since the financial crash of 2008, he reckons its policymakers have done well in mixing painful stuff like debt restructuring with injections of cash to keep demand growing. Europe’s deleveraging, by contrast, is “ugly”.

Mr Dalio’s views are taken seriously. He made a fortune betting before the crash that the world had taken on too much debt and would need to slash it. Last year alone, his Bridgewater Pure Alpha fund earned its investors $13.8 billion, taking its total gains since it opened in 1975 to $35.8 billion, more than any other hedge fund ever, including the previous record-holder, George Soros’s Quantum Endowment Fund.

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Mr Dalio, an intense 62-year-old, is following in the footsteps of Mr Soros in other ways, too. Mr Soros has published several books on his theories, and is funding an institute to get mainstream economists to take alternative ideas seriously. Mr Dalio, too, is now trying to improve the public understanding of how the economy works. His economic model “is not very orthodox but gives him a pretty good sense of where the economy is,” says Paul Volcker, a former chairman of America’s Federal Reserve and one of Mr Dalio’s growing number of influential fans.

Whereas Mr Soros credits the influence of Karl Popper, a philosopher who taught him as a student, Mr Dalio says his ideas are entirely the product of his own reflections on his life as a trader and his study of economic history. He has read little academic economics (though his work has echoes of Hyman Minsky, an American economist, and of best-selling recent work on downturns by Carmen Reinhart and Kenneth Rogoff) but has conducted in-depth analysis of past periods of economic upheaval, such as the Depression in America, post-war Britain and the hyperinflation of the Weimar Republic. He has even simulated being an investor in markets in those periods by reading daily papers from these eras, receiving data and “trading” as if in real time.

In the early 1980s Mr Dalio started writing down rules that would guide his investing. He would later amend these rules depending on how well they predicted what actually happened. The process is now computerised, so that combinations of scores of decision-rules are applied to the 100 or so liquid-asset classes in which Bridgewater invests. These rules led him to hold both government bonds and gold last year, for example, because the deleveraging process was at a point where, unusually, those two assets would rise at the same time. He was right.

What Mr Dalio calls the “timeless and universal” core of his economic ideas is set out in a 20-page “Template for Understanding” that he wrote shortly after the collapse of Lehman Brothers in 2008 and recently updated. The document begins: “The economy is like a machine.” This machine may look complex but is, he insists, relatively simple even if it is “not well understood”. Mr Dalio models the macroeconomy from the bottom up, by focusing on the individual transactions that are the machine’s moving parts. Conventional economics does not pay enough attention to the individual components of supply and, above all, demand, he says. To understand demand properly, you must know whether it is funded by the buyers’ own money or by credit from others.

A huge amount of Bridgewater’s efforts goes into gathering data on credit and equity, and understanding how that affects demand from individual market participants, such as a bank, or from a group of participants (such as subprime-mortgage borrowers). Bridgewater predicted the euro-zone debt crisis by totting up how much debt would need to be refinanced and when; and by examining all the potential buyers of that debt and their ability to buy it. Mr Volcker describes the degree of detail in Mr Dalio’s work as “mind-blowing” and admits to feeling sometimes that “he has a bigger staff, and produces more relevant statistics and analyses, than the Federal Reserve.”

Two sorts of credit cycle are at the heart of Mr Dalio’s economic model: the business cycle, which typically lasts five to eight years, and a long-term (“long wave”) debt cycle, which can last 50-70 years. A business cycle usually ends in a recession, because the central bank raises the interest rate, reducing borrowing and demand. The debt cycle ends in deleveraging because there is a “shortage of capable providers of capital and/or a shortage of capable recipients of capital (borrowers and sellers of equity) that cannot be rectified by the central bank changing the cost of money.” Business cycles happen often, they are well understood and policymakers are fairly adept at managing them. A debt cycle tends to come along in a country once in a lifetime, tends to be poorly understood and is often mishandled by policymakers.

An ordinary recession can be ended by the central bank lowering the interest rate again. A deleveraging is much harder to end. According to Mr Dalio, it usually requires some combination of debt restructurings and write-offs, austerity, wealth transfers from rich to poor and money-printing. A “beautiful deleveraging” is one in which all these elements combine to keep the economy growing at a nominal rate that is higher than the nominal interest rate. (Beauty is in the eye of the beholder: Mr Dalio expects America’s GDP growth to average only 2% over a 15-year period.)

Print too little money and the result is an ugly, deflationary deleveraging (see Greece); print too much and the deleveraging may become inflationary, as in Weimar Germany. Although Mr Dalio says he fears being misunderstood as saying “print a lot of money and everything will be OK, which I don’t believe, all deleveragings have ended with the printing of significant amounts of money. But it has to be in balance with other policies.”

Mr Dalio admits to being wrong roughly a third of the time; indeed, he attributes a big part of his success to managing the risk of bad calls. And the years ahead are likely to provide a serious test of whether the economic machine is as simple as he says. For now, he is in a more optimistic mood thanks to the European Central Bank’s recent moves, in effect, to print money. Although he still expects debt restructuring in Spain, Portugal, Italy and Ireland, on top of that in Greece, he says that the “risk of chaos has been reduced and we are now calming ourselves down.” Here’s hoping he is right again.

See also: An interview with Ray Dalio

3999  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Government programs & regulations, spending, deficit, and budget process on: March 19, 2012, 03:06:36 PM
don't worry be happy
we will 'grow' our way of this

let me see if I can find the article on that guy who says the US is elegantly or beautifully deleveraging ourselves out of our mess while Europe is not doing it is artfully or in a more ugly fashion.

What a joke.

It really is remarkable that probably few hundreds of  people truly control the world economy
4000  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / CNN newscaster is not a journalist as much as a on: March 19, 2012, 01:38:12 PM

Here is what I mean about Fareed Zakaria who meets with Obama regularly to coordinate the framework of his shows with the agenda of the WH.   If I hear him ask one more guest, "don't you think Obama is right?",  or exclaim "you know it is true [what the wh says], give another lecture about the glories of whatever the WH policy is on whatever the topic du jour is:
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