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4001  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues on: February 04, 2013, 09:09:28 PM
The factions on the left or more mobilized than ever.  Surely the illegals are a potential big boon for the Democrat party.

It is interesting how the union leadership has caved for the good of their the other half of their party machine - the democrat party.

Basically cave on immigration throwing all you union members into the garbage can making them have to compete with hungrier more motivated people just to pray you turn these new immigrants into new members thus keeping the union mobsters in charge keeping their power while the rank and file members now get pay cuts just trying to compete.

The Blacks are so in love with the Democrat party machine and so despised of the Republicans that they spite themselves the same way by giving it all away to newer kids on the block.

I guess they are too drunk with new power at the highest levels of a national party they can't see the forest for the trees.

Republicans ought to hit these two themes above very hard.

I say  we teach, we preach, we spell it out front and center.   So what do the republicans have to offer?  A free country where anyone has a chance.  Not one controlled by a politburo of cronies, corrupted politicians, smart aleck academics telling all of us what is good for us.      Who the hell are they to keep shoving it down our throats.

Humanity is not as a whole a god damn machine.    We are people.   I don't want to be told what to do by progressives from birth to death.
4002  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / John Bolton does it on: February 01, 2013, 10:06:20 PM
To my knowledge Mr. Bolton is the first prominent person to say the ONLY way to stop Iran from going nuclear is to use military force.
Sanctions will NOT work.
I think he was on Greta's show around two days ago.
Thank God - someone finally said it!  What we have been saying it on this board for years.
Contrast this to the Hill[billy] - the military option has always (a lie) been "on the table".
4003  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Rest in Peace on: February 01, 2013, 09:54:18 PM
I too was saddened to learn of his death.

He was one of the few Democrats who I truly admired.

4004  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues on: January 31, 2013, 09:23:00 AM
Don't think the immigrants will vote for Rubio.

Maybe some Vietnamese became Republican when they came over on boats but the majority of the rest are all Dems.

The majority of later immigrants and certainly illegals will vote Dem no matter what.

I have not seen any hope this will turn around.  We are an entitlement country/society now.

Only a crash.  Only when the pain is too much.  Only hope.

O'Reilly is right and Krauthammer wrong.   The country has shifted left of center.

IF one cable announcement today is Obama is at 60% approval there IS no other explanation.
4005  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: European matters on: January 31, 2013, 09:11:08 AM
We don't need a separate "European" thread anymore.  Just include into the government programs thread.
4006  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of the left on: January 31, 2013, 09:09:49 AM
I would also add the "right" to retire is guaranteed.

There is no higher service, no greater good, no more honorable thing one could do than to serve in the government.

We are the people of for and by the government. sad
4007  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces on: January 27, 2013, 09:43:24 PM
"This is a chillingly familiar set of grievances; and its recrudescence was foreseen by the Founders. They realized that King George was not an individual case, but the inevitable outcome of unfettered power; that any person or group with the power to tax, to form laws, and to enforce them by arms will default to dictatorship, absent the constant unflagging scrutiny of the governed, and their severe untempered insistence upon compliance with law."

Yes.  I think the Republicans, or at least the Conservative ones are evolving their message that I hope will resonate with more people than those of us already in the choir.  (I am a convert! grin)

While the left tries to point to the private sector rich and powerful (unless one is a liberal Democrat - they get a "pass"; like Hollywood; like Buffett) we can point to Washington DC.   Rush pointed this out the other day as I posted.  Hannity who I admittedly shied away from for being too "unobjective" if you will, did a great show this weekend on Fox.  The richest county in the US is DC.  Seven of the top richest counties in the entire country are surrounding DC.   Multiple members of the Houses have family members getting rich as lobbyists.   

IF anyone has driven around DC knows there are a lot of slums.  So the fact that it is still the richest county in the US says a lot.  (Actually is DC really a county?)

Maybe the Repubs can have some success at turning the !% argument against the left with the corruption of the ruling government elite
4008  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: January 27, 2013, 09:34:12 PM
Maybe take his brothers back to Israel.   They all live, thrive and are successful capitalists.    That is good.   They are all liberal socialists in political philosophy.  That for me is bad.   Is it all a ruse?  A way to get rich?  Reminds me some of AlGOre...
4009  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Health Thread (nutrition, medical, longevity, etc) on: January 27, 2013, 09:17:09 PM
Hi Doug,

Yes.  The paradox and twisted logic for political correctness.    Saying that we should live like vegetarians,  walk or bike ride to work, take yoga, avoid sugars, fats, alcohol (except maybe that one red wine at night) sounds wonderful.  Some of us may even add a few years to our lives.  Yet the reality is that there will be more people living longer on SS and the entitlements share of the pie will expand even more.

OTOH if we can keep older people healthy in a way they can move around and continue to perform cognitively as well as physically and keep them working or volunteering longer they would become a vital store of experience wisdom and contribute to society rather then the opposite.  OF course we can't expect this now when it hurts to walk around, memories are not so good and people may have to wear diapers.  

"George Orwell could not foresee the number of cameras and the data mining systems that will double check your compliance."

In recent med journals (I forget which one) there are articles from  politburo members who are PhDs (nothing against PhDs but just the point that MBAs and PhDs are along with some MDs involved) in something like industrial engineering and work flow engineering.  If one is not in health care in the US we probably all have a relative who is who can attest to health care evolving into something more resembling an assembly line.   My mind is boggled every day with all the regulatory requirements and the absolute hair splitting of every single step in every single human interaction, function, task, as well as duplicate and triplicate controls.   Perhaps for younger people more attune to this view of the world and daily life because of electronic gadgets it is not so rough.  For me it is torture.  Like "Secret Agent Man"  they took away your name and gave you a number.

"Have you been told yet you to ask your patients about guns in the home yet?  It's a health care cost now."

The only time I ask anyone that is if I am concerned they are so depressed that they may commit suicide.  If they have a gun in the house I am more worried.

Other than that - no.  And I will not.   None of my damn business.  

I don't ask people if they wear their seatbelts either.  Enough is enough.  I am not their nanny.

I do try to help with cigarettes and weight where I can.
4010  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / speaking about trust in government on: January 27, 2013, 07:37:31 AM
No quarterly reports ( of course they would be fudged with ridiculous accounting swindling shell games anyway) since 2011.   Obama violating a law HE SIGNED!  Why we hear of it after the election is also another hint of corruption.   Who has the power to enforce laws? Congress?

Yes the liberal *elite* , those *0.1% ers*, the *liberal politburo*,  the self delegated ones who behind closed doors are conspiring what is best for the world including the journolisters have succeeded in keeping this quite.
4011  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / I don't agree but for sake of stimulating point of view on: January 27, 2013, 07:29:44 AM
I don't know if anyone remembers from the DMG board years ago I pointed out my suspicion that the argument we should get people to stop smoking because they utilize more health care dollars while all the rest of us pay for their medical problems is flawed?

The concept that we will reduce costs in the long run by getting them to quit might be flawed.  If these people die at 50 or 60 rather than living to 80 or more the US might save a bundle in social security,  Medicare, and long term care costs.

Scott Gottlieb of FDA and (of Gilder's health stock letter fame and FDA guy) takes what I think is a tongue in cheek stance that we should just let the smokers (and obese) simply die.  Why should society pay for their health ills keeping them alive?

4012  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Benghazi, The Petraeus/Susan Rice affair; and related matters on: January 27, 2013, 12:37:06 AM

I agree with Morris here.  The hearing with Hillary should absolutely been straight and direct to the point.  forget about how to prevent this in the future.  Half the country wants to explain covering up a terrorist attack just before an election.

"what difference does it make"

The issue is not how to prevent terrorist attacks.   We already know how to do that.  The issue  is that you, madam sec of state and your appointer PRes. Obama should not cover up and deliberately lie about an attack on the US.

The question is how do we prevent people in our government from breaking the trust with Americans?

Interesting CBS will have a love fest chat with the Prez and the (ex) SoS via their 60 minutes show.   The same network whose director of production wants Obama to "bury" the GOP.

It is time Repubs have their spin correction and truth attack squads out on every network correcting the propaganda  the crap that will emanate from this meeting.

Just like Clinton did to us in the 90's.  Even the tiniest criticism of Bill would result in the Clinton hoards on every single show spinning the truth.  Stephonpolous, CArvalle, Forehead Bagella, Davis, ,DNC chair, and the rest.

We need rapid swat like response team.

4013  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Benghazi, The Petraeus/Susan Rice affair; and related matters on: January 24, 2013, 11:48:13 PM
soloDAD (mouse) now bullies Johnson.   Why can't Repubs stand up to this?  Not even to a mouse?


Are you saying the tears are fake?  Are you ?  Are you saying their fake?  Are you?  Come on, I dare you say it again. 


Talk about protecting one of your gals......The CNN gals are all the same.


"That she got off easy in the hearing and that they did not circle her and destroy her as she leaves office does not mean this is over. "

Half the country agrees.   The other half doesn't care.  Hopefully Bob Grant is right and it won't be the Hill in 16.  Maybe even her own party is tired of looking the other way and defending the Clintons.

Clinton fatigue.   

Good thing no one placed a lamp within arms reach of her during this hearing....  Didn't we just hear about some BS that girls are calmer than men?
4014  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness on: January 24, 2013, 11:26:21 PM
A wild guess.

He voted for the war in Iraq?
4015  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Prostate cancer screening on: January 24, 2013, 10:01:38 AM
IMO a good objective summary of the situation.  The urologists and radiation oncologists have too much financial stakes to be able to give rational explanations.   Don't get me wrong.   Their intentions were honorable in trying to combat this disease, but the fact of the matter is that PSA screening leads to a lot of testing, surgery radiation treatment and much anxiety among people who are found to have it.  I discus  with my male pts. the pros and cons and even give them a website to go to and read if they like and allow them to decide.   Some decide against.   Some appear incapable of understanding the controversies and usually opt for the test,  and a few still want it.   Bottom line I try to inform them the best I can and the choice is theirs.  One caveat about the family history as one reason for men to do the test.   If it is estimated 75% of men over 80 will have prostate cancer (though very few will ever know - unless we do a search and destroy mission) then most men, if they have ancestors who live long enough and get tested they now will have a family history.   When I think of family history being relevant it is more important if they have a family member who either died of the disease or was younger when diagnosed.   The risks are higher for Blacks for unknown reasons (NO it is not discriminatory or racist).
4016  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Benghazi, The Petraeus/Susan Rice affair; and related matters on: January 24, 2013, 09:34:10 AM
Agreed.   And this pathetic show by Republicans only convinces me more this country is doomed to have to go through some catastrophe in order to get back on the right course towards limited government, individual freedom, free markets and fiscal solvency.

Even this they couldn't even get right.   PATHETIC, huh cry
4017  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Way Forward for the American Creed on: January 24, 2013, 09:30:06 AM
With regard to strategy it appears to me that the Republicans do bicker and strategize in public.   This not only serves to highlight the fragmentation of the right giving intoxicated Obama/Biden even more confidence, but give our political enemies time to be prepared with their counter spin with the journalists blanketing all the major media outlets.

I don't know why we can't be more coordinated while having real conservatives quietly and discretely come up with better mass appealing strategies to counter the progressive "journey" as they call it.

Some billionaire - get together a coalition of very strict conservative repubs and very politically savvy pols to combine themes that are both constitutionally consistent within standard American traditions and beliefs and fit today's political demographics.

Someone should say to Blacks - do you all want to work for the post office.   IF this is what you aspire to government to support you, then look at the Post Office's books.  The whole charade will collapse.

Just when you are rising up to truly benefit from America you vote to give up your futures.  Not to protect them.   Why can't Republicans make this argument and make it every day.
4018  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces on: January 24, 2013, 09:18:10 AM
Nice VDH piece,

"That change represents the unspoken reality that socialist redistribution has reduced Europe to near-irrelevancy. Supposedly, free-market Asian economies are the new nexus of wealth and power. Oil and gas finds in America are providing unexpected energy independence from the Persian Gulf. Or perhaps the new strategic emphasis reflects the demographic realities of the Obama coalition of various minority groups -- and fewer European-American voters.

With regard to the first sentence I agree the US is going the same way.  With regards to the third sentence could be a boom if Obama would get out of the way - he won't.  He will allow it to proceed but lonely under extraordinary more than necessary regulation so HE and his kingdom is in control of it all - not the private sector.  And at the same time he will tax the sector so high it's growth will still be muffled and we will still have to pay up for our energy.

AS for the last statement certainly the strategy is to find and maintain a coalition of groups over 51 % to ram through and subjugate those who "cling on to their guns and religion".

VDH, who I agree with Doug is one of our best thinkers and writers.   Has anyone seen if he has written any pieces on strategy.  On how to turn the ship around *before* it sinks?  Personally I am convinced it is too late.

I have lost all faith in Republican leaders.   They botched the Hillary interview.  It was embarrassing to watch her go on offense against them and they respond not with outrage, indignation, making it damn clear  that she should be responsible and guilty for the deaths they let her turn it around and make them look like fools.    As noted by one cable talk hawlk , she came prepared.   She had her team of lawyers prepare her for all questions, all comers, prepare even a crying charade (why is ok for supposedly tough women in important positions to cry - if it was a man he would be ridiculed) and our guys were all fragmented, unable to stay focused, directed, like a good tough prosecutor who is PREPARED.     Woo is us.    EVen this simple task with which they had months - they can't even get this right.

This convinces me more than ever the Republicans will not be able to rise to the occasion.   And Karl Rove is back in the thick of the strategizing.
4019  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Way Forward for the American Creed on: January 23, 2013, 04:25:20 PM
Only Rush can articulate a theme that resonates like he does.

If only we had Republican politicians  with his expressive skills who combine it with more crossover political appeal.

4020  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / subway sub shops sued. on: January 23, 2013, 04:09:57 PM
Apparently their "footlongs" come up short.   I  wonder why people can't sue government sponsored lotteries.  They advertise you win a million, two million, 100 million.  Then for those who do win most if it is confiscated even before they get the check.  To me this is fraudulent advertising.
4021  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / california: happy days are here again on: January 23, 2013, 03:49:39 PM
Thanks to Brown, Kali-fornia has turned the corner (says the Economist).  Now what kind of accounting tricks could account for this?

See!  Things are getting better. wink rolleyes
4022  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Way Forward for the American Creed on: January 23, 2013, 03:44:08 PM
Rush may be on to something.  His show today he was highlighting how Hillary got off easy today and that that is a prime example of the DC elites circling wagons to protect her.   They were not simply protecting her because they care about her personally. But they care about their power.  THEY are the elites.  Not the private 1% ers.  But them.  It is them apart from the rest of America.

This could a theme Republicans can tinker with till they get a solid unifying message that everyone can understand.

It is not just about government.  It is about government AND those "elites" around them.  The, as I call them, the liberal politburo class.   Included are some Republicans.    Some media.  Many academics.   All those who plan what is best for us.

I know I am a bit vague or hazy here.  But I think Rush made a brilliant allusion to a theme that Republicans can rally around. A theme they can banner to turn it around. 

Obama uses a theme of the "99" ers against the 1%.

He of course uses race, minorities to divide and conquer.  Repubs meekly respond with something about government is taking our freedoms.  True but this is simply preaching to the choir IMHO.

I think a better theme is to bash those with major influence and power in DC as diminishing America.
4023  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Egypt on: January 23, 2013, 03:26:31 PM
The sale to Egypt of this military equipment while Egyptians go hungry can only be seen as a signal from Obama to Netanyahu:

"you don't run this show, I am the one who calls the shots and the one who says when where and if."

More pressure against Bibi not to attack unilaterally.

What else can this mean?
4024  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / The liberals "war" on Science on: January 22, 2013, 11:22:07 PM
Interesting twist:
4025  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / home made gun on: January 22, 2013, 10:23:17 PM
one can soon download guns and ammo:
4026  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Brock should fly to China and meet the new leader of China on: January 20, 2013, 12:40:00 PM
according to Economist's lead article:

Brock they say has not met China's new guy for two months and he should have been there immediately.   I don't agree that begging and groveling is the way to go but that is their opinion.
4027  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Obama sending jets/tanks to Egypt. on: January 20, 2013, 08:11:38 AM
I am not clear why Egypt needs these weapons.
4028  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: January 19, 2013, 03:19:34 PM
Interesting.  There are two people identified in the photo as maybe being JWB.  One is enlarged in my second post of photos and one can make out a figure that has a resemblance to JWB.  You cannot really see it without the photo being enhanced while the other guy a little farther to the right who also may be JWB is much clearer.

Is there any record of JWB definitely claiming to have been there?
4029  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / For the record on: January 19, 2013, 03:07:45 PM
And for the record I absolutely would not want him assassinated.

Even more BLVDs, airports, government buildings, schools and the rest will be named after him and he will be elevated to virtual sainthood.
4030  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: January 19, 2013, 03:03:58 PM
After you see the circled guy in the second post above you can go to the first and enlarge and see exactly who they identify as JWB.
4031  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / This guy on: January 19, 2013, 03:02:02 PM;_ylt=Av178uk.1in179vSQFFoJKSbvZx4?p=john+booth+in+lincoln+photo&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-701
4032  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / here is the photo on: January 19, 2013, 03:00:46 PM
4033  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Yes my half of the country will be tuning out. on: January 19, 2013, 02:57:05 PM
A horrible thought

In the one surviving photo of Lincoln's inauguration one can see a person standing not more than twenty feet away who is identified as John Booth.

Hey it ain't me.  Obama and his teamsters love to compare him to Lincoln.
4034  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: US Foreign Policy on: January 19, 2013, 02:33:51 PM

"But the United States has the option of following U.S. strategy in the two world wars. The United States was patient, accepted risks and shifted the burden to others, and when it acted, it acted out of necessity, with clearly defined goals matched by capabilities."

This analogy is totally flawed.  We defeated Germany and Japan by destroying them.  We bombed the hell out of Germany and Japan.  How does that compare to fighting a war on a guerilla's terms?

"with clearly defined goals matched by capabilities." and a plan and time frame to end it.

The descending Colon policy

WE had plans in Iraq.  Get rid of Saddam and establish a Democracy.  We did do that.  It is debatable whether it was worth the effort, or whether it will be long term success or not.

In Afghanistan our goal was to defeat the Taliban and Al Qaeda. 

I must think he is concluding we simply don't have the capability to defeat our enemies today.  And if he means by finding arresting gently placing all "enemy combatants" into a comfortable prison while sparing every other person and entity in the same geography with perfect precision he is right.  If we fight wars like police actions rather than wars we will be dragged into these things for long periods.

4035  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness on: January 19, 2013, 02:15:02 PM
"long form birth records were SEALED"

Yet the left mocks those who questioned this as "birthers"

Yet the left attacks those who questioned this as racist. 

Now even "descending colon" Powell called this racist.
Yes he is full of shit.
4036  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Way Forward for the American Creed on: January 17, 2013, 12:12:58 PM
Rove deserves some credit.  He did get the least articulate person to ever be in the white house elected twice though both times close.

But that is the most credit he deserves.

Again his thoughts while true still miss the mark.

O'Reilly thinks the electorate has changed and were past the tipping point so that more than half  want big government.  Even if they don't its too late because they are getting checks that they will not risk losing. Krauthammer says no that the rise of socialism is temporary and the pendulum will swing back.  O'Reilly responds that he hopes it doesn't take a catastrophe before it does.

As an aside,
I unfortunately moved to NJ.  It is scary to think that Gov. Christy comes the closest to beating Hillary in head to head polls.  On one hand he held the line on some state taxes and confronted the state controlling unions mainly public education which along with the Democrat party has a stranglehold around the neck of taxpayers.  On the other hand he wants the Feds to just hand him 60 billion - no questions asked.  And he demagogues his own party.    IT seems the only way to win in Democrat bastions is to not really be a conservative.
4037  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Rove still misses the point; or at least is not addressing it. on: January 17, 2013, 11:11:28 AM
"Because spending cuts in general and the abstract are popular, while spending cuts in the specific and concrete often are not."

ccp:  Well yeah.  If 50% are getting benefits they will never be convinced to vote the other way.

"Republicans will have to make a concerted effort to connect fiscal policy to economic growth and opportunity"

ccp:  We can't just focus on the debt and growth and ignore all the other social issues.  We have to convince the country that government is NOT the answer to every single discomfort  of humanity.  Like restricting 300 million people from having guns to save "one life".   Like keep one innocent person from jail while 100 guilty get off.  Like making the entire business community have to spend tons to build wheelchair ramps,  Like having us learn foreign languages to cater to newcomers and not the other way around .  The cans have to make their case as how this can be better dealt with without more regulation.  They don't.  I fear we are becoming the party of one subject - the debt.   While this is perhaps the biggest threat this country faces this is not going to win hearts and minds of 50% of the population.

"a vision for bringing opportunity into every life—one that promotes strong families, secure livelihoods, and an equal chance for every American." He credited free enterprise for doing more than anything else "to lift people everywhere out of poverty."  [Ryan]

ccp:  I am not sure how many people who are in the US any longer subscribe to this.  Many appear not to subscribe to "equal chance for every...."  They want security.  They want some socialism.  They don't want equal chance.  They want equal outcomes.

"Facts matter, but they're not enough. It's life stories and narratives that capture the public's imagination. That's something every Republican must internalize in the spending wars ahead. We need to move not simply minds but also hearts, to show what the "right to rise" means for every American"

ccp:   OK we need to inspire people to be what it used  mean to be American.  Now it means get the check, avoid as much taxes as possible because they are too ubiquitous, and how to game the system by both sides - those who are getting screwed and have to pay all the bills for the Democrat party vote buying and liberal politburo utopian everyone is equal vision or those who are jockeying to get these gifts.
This is what America has become.   Thanks to the Democrat party led by their chosen spokesperson.
4038  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / For "righties" on: January 16, 2013, 11:45:19 PM
4039  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Shock! Schumer for Hagel on: January 16, 2013, 11:40:47 PM
For Democrats party is ALWAYS first: rolleyes
4040  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Joe scarborough on: January 16, 2013, 10:56:43 PM
I can't say I have ever loved the guy but he has become despicable.

Every single time I patrol the cable news and turn on his show he is bashing Republicans. 

That is all he does.

Instead of preaching conservatism and boosting the Republican party he has become an enemy to our side.  He is no better than the liberals he sits with.
4041  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: We the Well-armed People (Gun rights stuff ) on: January 16, 2013, 10:50:02 PM
Crafty posted:

"I would say that a significant MAJORITY of Americans support our gun rights and a significant minority would entertain notions of resistance."

And I would add we can be very sure the Obama administration's Dept. of HS is making, keeping, cataloguing,  watching and studying lists of that significant minority.

4042  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / flu vaccine tax on: January 12, 2013, 03:07:45 PM
I read the reasons proposed.

There is just no end to the imagined wasy to make people cough up more money.

It appears to be limitless.   cry

4043  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Ben Shapiro on: January 12, 2013, 02:47:48 PM
This kid Ben Shapiro is on to something. 

I was reading in the Economist an article on Richard Nixon's library.  How origianlly the Watergate thing was downplayed but now it is run differently it is more the other way around.

The called him Tricky Dick.  They call his political strategies "tricky".

Like going negative on opponents.

Mr. Shaprio would explain this a good example of why Republicans are losing.

The left calls Nixon's politics dirty, tricky.

When they do it, or BOama does the same thing, they call it playing "hardball".

Shapiro is good at pointing out the subtle differences from the MSM, and the Dem party party strategists.

Shaprio worked with Brietbart.
4044  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: January 12, 2013, 02:40:20 PM
Hi Doug and happy New Year to you and my other forum friends.

Dr. Fuchs has had many articles published in the medical journals so that is where I have seen his views before.  One clarification.  The interview I posted was March 2012.  However, his prediction that it would take some sort of major event (like a market crash) before health car policy change could be implemented politically was, I have read, one he has been making long before.  I read his almost verbatim prediction in an article dated back to 2003.  I might hazard to guess people like him were thinking the same thing after the Hillary Care failure back in the 90's.

Certainly he is correct that health care cost's are unsustainable.  He does seem to agree that whatever the changes are to be made it must take into account our country's perhaps unique political, cultural and social values to get political traction.  I am not sure he is enthusiastic about the poltical reality or just recognizing it.  I think most conservatives agree that health care costs are unsustainable and prefer market private market forces to fix them.  I think he is leaning this way vs the left ultra liberals who simply want to ram down one payor government regulated unversal health care down all our throats. 

As I have stated before I am not sure what the answer really is.  I still come to the conclusion (and hope) that modern technology will find cures, better treatments for chronic conditions that allow all of us not only to live longer but be productive longer, work longer and not simply live longer taking more social security, medicare dollars  using up nursing home space etc.

Fro example a real way to treat osteoarthritis and dementia so people can work and live productive lives longer.  Not just play golf longer while collecting their checks.
4045  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / victor fuchs March 2012 on: January 10, 2013, 10:03:27 PM
One economist on the politics of health care.  I would describe him as one of the more conservative members of the "politburo."  Note how he predicted that it would take a economic crash like what we saw in 08-09 to get health care reform.  The libs were ready.  Unlike the smaller minded conservatives who are caught on their heels:
4046  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Way Forward for the American Creed on: December 30, 2012, 02:19:56 PM
This is obviously why we know next to nothing about Brockman's time at Columbia.

Certainly he was indoctrinated by the politburo there.  The Ivy politburo's are the masterminds and he is thier spokesman.

4047  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / GM: think long game on: December 29, 2012, 04:42:03 PM
GM, if you are right and there is a giant crash, the Republicans have to in the words that Rahm Emanuel borrowed and expressed,

"let no disaster go to waste".

Repubs and teapartiers still have to be ready to seize back power when the time is right.  If WE are not ready, the liberals, with a newer version of socialist, communist, one world government will be there to fill the void.

From history

Vladimir Lenin waited his entire adult life fighting for his bolshevik cause, shaping it, studying, re-shaping it more, studying more, getting his propaganda out there so to speak, when to his surprise the time was right several months after the Tsar lost power in 1917 to make his move.  He had his supporters in place, he was known throughout socialist circles due to his propaganda newspapers, and he made his appearance back in Russia with his small circle of accomplices and by sheer force of will, determination, and single mindedness accomplished his goals.   Interestingly, it appears he was coming to the conclusion the time to do this would not come in his lifetime.  He was wrong.  But he was ready nonetheless.

Fast forward to the present time and it is obvious there are no such visible leaders in our party.  No one even close to a Lenin who comes to mind.  No doubt many conservative thinkers including Newt are rethinking this all through.  Till we have OUR ONE we have to hope they can shape things behind the scenes.

If I was younger and smarter I would have liked to have been part of it.  The struggle for freedom has returned.  Some don't see it.  Some don't care,.  Others are bribed.  Some are only looking at their specialty groups agendas.  

Time will tell.  I dread the reality of  of another 4 yrs of the present abomination.

4048  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Norman on: December 29, 2012, 04:28:29 PM
His IQ was 170!  I think Einstein was est. ~ a measely 165.

4049  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Way Forward for the American Creed on: December 29, 2012, 04:20:45 PM
Crafty excellent points.  Thanks for some thoughts.  In addition to these thoughts

I would also like to add that we have to "break" the stranglehold the Dem party has with minorities.  By segmenting the market of voters (if we can borrow a marketing phrase) into gays, blacks, latinos, women (particularly single), labor and bribing each group with different big gov agendas they have achieved enough numbers to win.  This we know.  This we can see.  Somehow we (republicans) have to reshape the debate.  We can't keep segmenting the electorate into groups and bribing each one lest we wind up with tyrannical government that controls too many sectors too many voters, whether tax paying or on entitlements, without each and every one of them becoming controlled wards of the "state".

This line of reasoning fits in to my thoughts about attracting more Blacks to the party.  We have to do better than we have at convincing them that they are making a big mistake in being hard core democrats.  The Dems may promise them entitlements but they are also using them to push the overall progressive agenda.  And this agenda cares NOTHING about Blacks.  It is about one world government, loss of US sovereignty, autonomy, less personal freedoms, more government control and dispersing wealth not strictly to them, but around the world.  Some Blacks are fully aware of this.  Just as they are finally achieving more in US society, they are inadvertantly supporting a party that is controlled by socialists who are planning to give it all away (except their own power).

Monica Crowley had a great guest on her radio show today.  This is exactly the theme I was thinking.  Mr. Bryant was head of the NAACP in the late 80's when he was asked to deliver a speech about pro abortion while representing the NAACP.  He then realized he, as a Black man was being used, not for the agenda of Blacks, but for the agenda of the liberals.  Folks, when her refused to give this speech, because he is anti-abortion, there were many calls for him to removed from his postion.  He realized the DEm party is co -opted by the socialists and left it.

Check out this link and see for yourself.  I think he is a great spokeperson for the teaparty.  I think the right has to learn from this:

(I hope this workss - I cannot link here but typed in  the link)
4050  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / ruminating; moved here from the media thread on: December 21, 2012, 07:20:55 PM
You're right (as usual).  I don't want a crash.  It doesn't have to be either tyranny or total anarchy.

Your right that there seems to be this subset of voters who either don't vote, or can change their minds about who to vote for on the basis of a single news story or how they feel that day.  These voters are still deciding the elections I guess.

While the Dems seem to win some over with Christmas gifts the Repubs only have ideology and the evidence.  Can that win over enough voters?

Thank God for some like Levin or Limbaugh.  If only we had savvy pols on our side who had *their* gift of gab and charisma.  If Romney only had some of that.  Except for the first debate.....

Gingrich was close.  He had some of it.....

How do we convince people the government is not good to depend on.  We can talk debt, deficit, spending, forever but how do we get people to have the courage and the faith to give up their government assistance??

Some people are worried.  They are not simply moochers (though some certainly are).  They are fighting a losing battle to pay their bills.  They are scared. 

We may be able to win the hearts and minds of some of the middle clas, but how do we convince them to risk their pockbooks to the Republicans?

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