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4001  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Museum would have been far smarter on: August 25, 2011, 02:44:59 PM
It would have made more sense to have a museum dedicated to civil rights portraying it from slavery to the present thereby encompassing the whole struggle and the (millions) who (not just the one guy) did not struggle in vain. 

It would have been a learning experience for those too young to know and a reminder for those who are old enough to remember.

Instead we got a politically correct monstrosity.

This statue stands for appeasement in my view.  Not a stark reminder of a shameful part of our history.
4002  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / W is the hero of Libyia on: August 25, 2011, 02:35:55 PM
Well naturally Brock is going to take credit for Lybia.  He turned it mostly over to Nato and it was a no brainer that Ghaddafi, a brute with a third rate military force could be defeated at any time.  Yet now he wants credit for it. 

The truth is none of this "Arab spring" or whatever one wants to call it would have ever happened if not for W getting rid of Saddam.  So if one wants to give credit for this than give W and the neocons credit.

That all said I don't buy any of it myself.
4003  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: August 25, 2011, 02:31:23 PM
"he is 'too-Texas'"

You mean like LBjerk?

For me, Brock is too Hahvood.

The liberals sure think they know what is best for the world don't they.
Never enough pinstripes.
4004  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / From the Los Angeles slimes on: August 24, 2011, 12:59:05 PM
I guess the left is deflecting ties between Communism ideology and Jewish progressivism with this: 

"The visit is focusing renewed attention on the growing, and some say unlikely, alliance between right-wing Israelis and Christian fundamentalists in the U.S."

Here's the article again from leftist Jews trying to make a stink about Beck:

****Glenn Beck's Israel tour raises eyebrows
The former Fox News host's event has triggered a debate over whether he is a true friend of Israel or just a fanatic who has been accused of anti-Semitism.
Glenn Beck speaks during an event in Caesarea, Israel. (Oliver Weiken, European Pressphoto Agency / August 23, 2011)

  Obama's Jewish backers on edge over his Mideast peace plan
By Edmund Sanders, Los Angeles Times
August 23, 2011
Reporting from Jerusalem— Perhaps it was only a matter of time before conservative American commentator Glenn Beck, viewed by many supporters as a modern-day prophet, brought his messianic message to Jerusalem.

But even in an ancient city that has seen its share of religious enthusiasts, Beck's high-profile Holy Land tour this week, culminating Wednesday in a rally just a stone's throw from the Western Wall and the Dome of the Rock mosque, is raising eyebrows.

Before Beck's arrival, most Israelis were unfamiliar with the former Fox News host, whose cable TV show went off the air in June amid sagging ratings. But his rally has triggered a debate over whether he should be embraced as a pro-Israel friend or condemned as a fanatic who has battled allegations of anti-Semitism.

The visit is focusing renewed attention on the growing, and some say unlikely, alliance between right-wing Israelis and Christian fundamentalists in the U.S.

Beck, who declined to be interviewed, is calling his Jerusalem rally "Restoring Courage," playing off his "Restoring Honor" event in Washington last summer. The purpose, he has said, is to demonstrate American solidarity with Israel. Hundreds of Christian supporters, many from the U.S., are expected to attend.

Beck's staunch support for Israeli control over Jerusalem and his criticism of Palestinians' ambitions to create their own state have won him praise from many conservative Israeli leaders.

"He is a friend who supports Israel, and we should work with him," said Danny Danon, an outspoken member of the Likud Party who advocates the annexation of the West Bank to Israel. "It's important for us to see that there are people out there who support us and not all the world is against us."

But critics say Beck's track record of controversial statements makes him an inappropriate ally. Last month he likened Norwegian youths gunned down at a political camp by an anti-Islamic extremist to "Hitler Youth." Twice in the last year Beck has been denounced by the Anti-Defamation League for "bigoted" and "horrific" comments on his show, one likening Reform Judaism to "radicalized Islam" and another in which he said Holocaust survivor and billionaire George Soros betrayed fellow Jews to Nazis.

Under pressure from Jewish groups in the U.S., Beck apologized for the remark about Reform Judaism.

He has several times had to fend off allegations of anti-Semitism. Last year he appeared to endorse the notion that Jews killed Jesus Christ; his list of the world's nine most "dangerous" people includes eight Jews; he speculated in 2009 "that Israel might be wiped off the map, leading to all-out Armageddon."

"If this is the only kind of friend Israel's government can find around the world, that's a very poor sign," said Yariv Oppenheimer, secretary-general of Peace Now, the Israeli anti-settlement group. "It's a reflection on our current leadership that instead of having the world on our side, we can only get someone like Glenn Beck."

Arab Israeli lawmaker Ahmed Tibi warned that Beck's tour could provoke violence, calling him "a neo-fascist comedian who is motivated by a hatred of Islam."

Beck's visit reflects the partnership between conservative Israelis and some American Christian groups. So-called Christian Zionist groups and evangelical churches, such as Texas-based John Hagee Ministries, donate millions of dollars to help fund settlement construction in the West Bank and support Israel.

The support comes, in part, from a belief among some Christian fundamentalists that Jews are God's "chosen people" and that a return of the Jewish people to the Holy Land and the rebuilding of the Jewish temple in Jerusalem are signs of the second coming. Beck, who converted to the Mormon faith in 1999, frequently discussed such end-of-the-world prophecies and biblical themes on his program.

For conservative Israelis, the benefits of the alliance are more pragmatic. American evangelical groups have become a key source of tourist dollars and political and financial support, particularly as the divide has grown between American Jews, who remain predominantly liberal, and Israelis, who are shifting more toward the right.

"It's a marriage of convenience," said Hebrew University political science professor David Ricci, an expert in U.S. relations. "Over the last 10 years, fewer liberals in the U.S. are willing to be clearly identified with the Israeli government."

But Ricci and others see potential fault lines in the partnership. For starters, evangelicals are often active in missionary work, something Israelis do not tolerate.

Last week, Texas-based Daystar Television Network hosted "Israel Day," in which it broadcast live from Jerusalem. In between on-air solicitations for $1,000 pledges, the program's hosts condemned efforts to make part of East Jerusalem the capital of a new Palestinian state, and they vowed unconditional support for Israel.

Yet at the same time, the station boasted of "bringing the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the land of Israel." One host said that more Jews have been converted to Christianity in the last 20 years than in the last 2,000.

Such comments don't sit well with most Israelis. Likewise, Jewish people don't fare very well in some Christian "end times" scenarios, in which Israel will be destroyed by an apocalyptic war during which Jews are either converted to Christianity or killed.

"This type of Christianity believes in the gathering of the Jews in Israel in order to bring about Armageddon," said Jeremy Ben-Ami, executive director of J Street, a U.S. lobbying group that advocates for a two-state solution. "That's not exactly good for the long-term survival and security of Israel."

Ben Ami said that the tie between conservative Israelis and fundamentalist Christians "threatens to turn this whole conflict into ground zero for a religious war, rather than a territorial war, and a religious war is much more difficult to resolve through peaceful compromise."

Danon, who agreed that American evangelical groups were becoming an important political ally for Israel, said he's not worried about the religious divide.

"When the messiah comes, we'll ask whether this is the first time or the second time," Danon joked. "In the meantime, we have a lot in common. We don't need to argue about it today."
Copyright © 2011, Los Angeles Times
4005  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / QE - government code for Ponzi on: August 24, 2011, 12:40:39 PM
Thanks for your thoughts.  It just seems like obvious common sense is that printing more money IS NO different than any Ponzi scheme - borrowing from one to pay off another until the whole thing collapses all the while praying for some miracle like winning the lottery) or in the Fed's case - economic growth to go sky high and flood revenues to cover the borrowing.  (Although in the case of Democrats and Republicans trying to buy off the votes that would otherwise go to Dems - keep spending it all on entitlements anyway)
4006  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Erza Klein started the Jornolist on: August 24, 2011, 12:32:30 PM

This is the guy who according to Wikepedia started the Journolist which according to Wikepedia he reports to have disbanded (though we know that is obviously not true and they just keep a lower profile).  See the portion I have highlighted between the stars below:

Ezra Klein
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Ezra Klein

Klein on Halloween, 2008
Born May 9, 1984 (1984-05-09) (age 27)
Irvine, California
Nationality American
Education B.A., Political Science
Alma mater UCLA
Occupation Journalist and Political pundit
Employer Washington Post, MSNBC, Bloomberg
Ezra Klein - Washington Post
Ezra Klein (born May 9, 1984) is an American blogger and columnist for The Washington Post, columnist for Bloomberg, a columnist for Newsweek, and a contributor to MSNBC. He was formerly an associate editor of The American Prospect political magazine and a political blogger at the same publication.[1]

Contents [hide]
1 Early life
2 Career
2.1 Health care debate
2.2 JournoList
3 Personal life
4 Awards
5 Notes
6 External links

[edit] Early life
Klein was born and raised in Irvine, California, and went to school at University High School. He attended the University of California, Santa Cruz but later transferred to the University of California, Los Angeles, from which he graduated in 2005 with a B.A. in political science. While at UCLA, he applied to write for the Daily Bruin but was rejected.[2]

Klein is a middle child,[2] raised in a Jewish family, though today, he identifies as a devout agnostic.[3] His father is a math professor, his mother an artist.[2]

[edit] Career
Klein started his first blog in February 2003.[4] He soon joined with Matt Singer, and the name was changed to "Klein/Singer: Political Consulting on the Cheap." In June 2003, he moved to the blog "Not Geniuses" along with Matt Singer, Ryan J. Davis, and Joe Rospars.[5]

Following "Not Geniuses," Klein partnered with Jesse Taylor at Pandagon. This partnership helped Klein gain even more visibility, leading to his eventual founding of his blog "Ezra Klein."[6]

Besides his online contributions, Klein worked on Howard Dean's primary campaign in Vermont in 2003, and interned for the Washington Monthly in Washington, D.C. in 2004. "I used to have political aspirations," said Klein. " the sense of getting my name on a ballot and promising Iowans more ethanol subsidies than they could handle. But over time, I found that I enjoy writing far more. More to the point, I think that the creation of a media environment that can sustain and propel progressivism is more important than any single elected official. I'd trade a liberal O'Reilly (or Limbaugh!) for 5, 10 congressmen. The media is as effective and important an agent for change as the legislative bodies, and I think it's where I'm happiest and most effective."[7]

In 2003, he and Markos Moulitsas were two of the earliest bloggers to report from a political convention, that of the California State Democratic Party.[8] In 2006, Klein was one of several writers pseudonymously flamed by The New Republic writer Lee Siegel (posting as a sock puppet called sprezzatura).[9]

On December 10, 2007, Klein moved his blog full time to the American Prospect.[10]

Klein's prolific blogging caught the attention of Steve Pearlstein, the Washington Post's veteran business columnist. A friend referred him to Klein's work in the American Prospect. "I was blown away by how good he was—how much the kid wrote—on so many subjects," Pearlstein said. Pearlstein sent samples of Klein's work to managing editor Raju Narisetti. A few weeks after he heard from Pearlstein, Post foreign correspondent John Pomfret asked Klein to have lunch with him and financial editor Sandy Sugawara. Narisetti quickly hired Klein to be the Post’s first pure blogger on politics and economics.[2] On May 18, 2009, he began writing at the newspaper.[11]

His writing interests include health policy, the labor movement, electoral politics and food.[12] He writes a primer on policy called "Wonkbook," which is delivered by e-mail and on his blog each morning.

Klein frequently provides political commentary on MSNBC's The Rachel Maddow Show and Hardball with Chris Matthews. He is a former contributor to the now-cancelled Countdown with Keith Olbermann.

In May 2011 when it launched, Klein became a columnist for Bloomberg View in addition to his work at The Washington Post and MSNBC.[13]

[edit] Health care debate
In December 2009, Klein wrote an article in the Washington Post that because Senator Joe Lieberman was motivated to oppose health care legislation in part out of resentment at liberals for being defeated in the 2006 Connecticut Democratic Primary, it meant that Lieberman was "willing to cause the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people in order to settle an old electoral score".[14] Klein based his estimate off of an Urban Institute report that estimated that 22,000 people died in 2006 because they lacked health-care insurance.[15] This article was criticized by Jonah Goldberg of the National Review, who called it a "silly claim."[16] Charles Lane, also of the Washington Post, described Klein's article as an "outrageous smear". But EJ Dionne, also of the Washington Post, agreed with Klein's claim, saying that "Klein is right that there is not a shred of principle in Lieberman's opposition."[17] Klein later said he regretted the phrasing[18] and his position is that despite universal coverage, the social determinants of health are still powerful predictors that, on average, ensure the lower socioeconomic classes die sooner than those with more income and education.[19][20]

[edit] JournoList
Main article: JournoList

******In February 2007 Klein created a Google Groups forum called "JournoList" for discussing politics and the news media. The forum's membership was controlled by Klein and limited to "several hundred left-leaning bloggers, political reporters, magazine writers, policy wonks and academics."[21] Posts within JournoList were intended only to be made and read by its members.[22] Klein defended the forum saying that it "[ensures] that folks feel safe giving off-the-cuff analysis and instant reactions". JournoList member, and Time magazine columnist, Joe Klein added that the off-the-record nature of the forum was necessary because “candor is essential and can only be guaranteed by keeping these conversations private”.[21]

The existence of JournoList was first publicly revealed in a July 27, 2007 blog post by blogger Mickey Kaus.[23] However, the forum did not attract serious attention until March 17, 2009 when an article was published on Politico that detailed the nature of the forum and the extent of its membership.[21] The Politico article set off debate within the Blogosphere over the ethics of participating in JournoList and raised questions about its overall purpose. The first public excerpt of a discussion within JournoList was posted by Mickey Kaus on his blog on March 26, 2009.[24]

Members of JournoList included, among others: Ezra Klein, Jeffrey Toobin, Eric Alterman, Paul Krugman, Joe Klein (no relation to Ezra Klein), Matthew Yglesias, and Jonathan Chait.

On June 25, 2010, Ezra Klein announced in his Washington Post blog that he would be terminating the Journolist group. This decision was instigated by fellow blogger Dave Weigel's resignation from the Post following the public exposure of several of his Journolist emails about conservative media figures.[25][26]*****

Klein had justified excluding conservative Republicans from participation as "not about fostering ideology but preventing a collapse into flame war. The emphasis is on empiricism, not ideology".[27]

[edit] Personal life
Klein is engaged to Annie Lowrey, an economics reporter at Slate.[28]

[edit] Awards
2007 The Hillman Prize, for "Tapped", The American Prospect.
[edit] Notes
^ The American Prospect political magazine.
^ a b c d Jaffe, Harry (2010-03-04). "Post Watch: Whiz Kid on the block". The Washingtonian. Retrieved 2011-01-30. 
^ "Ezra Klein: Religion Archives". Retrieved 2009-09-01. 
^ Ezra K blog.
^ Not Geniuses blog.
^ Ezra Klein blog.
^ "A Conversation With Political Blogger Ezra Klein of Pandagon". 2004-11-02. Retrieved 2011-01-30. 
^ Weiss, Joanna (May 10, 2004). "Blogs colliding with traditional media: Convention credentials expected for Web logs". Boston Globe. Retrieved 2008-01-12. [dead link]
^ Carr, David (2006-09-11). "A Comeback Overshadowed by a Blog". New York Times. Retrieved 2008-01-12. 
^ Goodbye post at Klein's old blog
^ Introductory post at the Washington Post
^ "Down with the GVP!". Washington Post. 2010-04-07. Retrieved 2011-01-30. 
^ Hagey, Keach (April 29, 2011). "Bloomberg View reveals columnists, editorial board". Retrieved August 6, 2011. 
^ "Joe Lieberman: Let's not make a deal!". The Washington Post. Retrieved 2010-05-03. 
^ Dorn, Stan. Uninsured and Dying Because of It: Updating the Institute of Medicine Analysis on the Impact of Uninsurance on Mortality. Urban Institute.
^ Jonah Goldberg (2009-12-15). "Lieberman Loves Death More than Ezra Klein Loves Life". The Corner. National Review Online. Retrieved 2010-07-29. 
^ "The public option died last summer". The Washington Post. Retrieved 2010-05-03. 
^ "Washington's Brat Pack Masters Media". The New York Times. 2010-03-25. Retrieved 2011-03-31. 
^ Carney, Timothy (2011-02-28) Turns out ObamaCare might not save hundreds of thousands of lives, Washington Examiner
^ Ezra Klein (February 28, 2011). "Health care doesn't keep people healthy -- even in Canada" The Washington Post Accessed July 14, 2011.
^ a b c Michael Calderone (2009-03-17). "JournoList: Inside the echo chamber". The Politico. Retrieved 2009-03-30. 
^ JournoList Google Groups.
^ Mickey Kaus (2007-07-27). "Educating Ezra Klein". Slate (magazine). Retrieved 2009-03-30. 
^ Mickey Kaus (2009-03-26). "JournoList Revealed! Inside the Secret Liberal Media Email Cabal". Slate (magazine). Retrieved 2009-03-30. 
^ Klein, Ezra (June 25, 2010). "On Journolist, and Dave Weigel". The Washington Post. Retrieved June 25, 2010. 
^ Keach Hagey, "David Weigel quits – and a debate begins,, June 25, 2010. Retrieved 6-27-2010.
^ "EzraKlein Archive". The American Prospect. Retrieved 2010-07-29. 
^ Klein, Ezra (2010-11-03). "Reconciliation -- and more". The Washington Post. Retrieved 2010-11-04. 
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4007  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Fed, Monetary Policy, Inflation, US Dollar & other currencies, & Gold/Silver on: August 23, 2011, 02:13:49 PM
Well I am trying to figure out if a QE3 would be good for the country or just a poltical gimmick for Brock and or wall street:
4008  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Can Taiwan Escape China's Ever-Tightening Embrace? on: August 23, 2011, 11:04:00 AM
As I think Doug pointed out the threat to Taiwan is akin to Israel's situation: 

****Can Taiwan Escape China's Ever-Tightening Embrace?

By Doug Bandow | Forbes – 20 hrs agotweet4Share0EmailPrintRelated ContentCan Taiwan Escape China's Ever-Tightening Embrace?
Kinmen Island, Taiwan—A half century ago the world seemed poised for war over the island of Kinmen, known then as Quemoy.  Today Kinmen has become a transit point between Taiwan and China, as tourists tread where bombs once fell.  But this peaceful traffic also may threaten Taiwan, albeit in a very different way.

In 1949 the Communist Party pushed Chiang Kai-shek's Republic of China off the Chinese mainland.  Chiang retreated to the island of Taiwan, seized by Japan in 1895 and returned at the end of World War II.  The ROC also retained control of several smaller islands off the mainland's coast, including Kinmen.

The newly created People's Republic of China attempted to forcibly reclaim the latter in October 1949, but failed after a three-day battle.  After that a Chinese Cold War ensued, with the Communist regime periodically shelling Kinmen and threatening another invasion.

The Nationalist government developed a vast underground military complex and honeycombed the island with bunkers.  Up into the 1980s the island was under military administration and official visitors would be flown in low over the water in military aircraft.   Although no shots had been fired in years, the potential for war seemed real.

The PRC and ROC maintained dueling claims as the sole legitimate government of China, but the balance steadily shifted in favor of the former.  Even the U.S. eventually switched recognition, though it kept close, unofficial ties with Taiwan.

Beijing's economic success has transformed the competition between the two Chinas.  Fifteen years ago China responded to Taiwan's presidential election—won by Lee Teng-hui, a strong advocate of Taiwan's sovereignty—with conveniently timed "missile tests."  Since then the PRC has abandoned overt military pressure, while refusing to formally eschew the use of military force.

Thus, the mainland's mailed fist still lurks in the background.  Indeed, both nations are engaged in almost continuous military shadow-boxing.  With great fanfare China recently launched its first aircraft carrier, the Varyag.  I was visiting Taiwan in early August when the ship began its first sea trials.  On the same day, Taiwan's Ministry of National Defense highlighted its newest cruise missile, the Hsiuing Feng III, as an "aircraft carrier killer."

But overall, worried Lin Wen-cheng, executive director of the Institute for National Policy Research, "because the balance of military power has been changed in recent decades, it is very hard to resist pressure from the PRC."  Clearly international good will is no defense.  Wang Jin-pyng, president of the Legislative Yuan (or parliament), observed:  "because there is so much unpredictability in Mainland China our security cannot solely depend on Mainland China."

So Taiwan continues to purchase weapons from the U.S.  In fact, one of the sharpest disagreements between Washington and Beijing is over U.S. arms sales to Taiwan.  While breaking relations with the ROC more than three decades ago, Washington promised to continue supplying Taipei's military.  However, China has grown increasingly angry over American transfers; after the Obama administration announced its latest package last year the PRC temporarily cut bilateral military ties.

Now the Administration reportedly has decided against selling the F-16 C/Ds needed by Taiwan to contest air superiority over the Taiwan Strait.  Vice Defense Minister Yang Nien-Dzu (Andrew) expressed concern that without the newer planes "we lose our leverage and immediately face the challenge of fulfilling our responsibility of preserving peace and stability in the region."   The issue has a diplomatic impact as well.  Explained Ambassador Chen S.F. (Stephen), now at the National Policy Foundation, a stronger defense would enhance Taiwan's bargaining power:  "when we enter into political negotiations with the mainland we need to go into negotiations from a position of strength."

With the election of Ma Ying-jeou as president in 2008, Taipei changed course, moderating its push for recognition as a separate country.  For instance, no longer is Taiwan pursuing its hopeless quest to get back into the United Nations.

China also eased the diplomatic competition.  Both governments closed their checkbooks and ended their expensive use of foreign aid to add or subtract to the 23 small nations which now recognize the ROC.

Most significant, the two nations now emphasize economic and cultural interdependence.  Investment and trade originally developed through Hong Kong.  But eventually the two Chinas dropped the pretense (and expense) of indirect dealings.

Today 70 percent of Taiwanese investment goes to the Mainland, where nearly 100,000 Taiwanese businesses operate.  The PRC accounts for 41 percent of Taiwan's international commerce.

Economic ties would increase naturally, but both Chinas are accelerating the process.  Chao Chien-min, Deputy Minister of the Mainland Affairs Council, said that Taipei is "trying to change the relationship from a one-way street to a two-way street."  So far the two countries—they actually deal with each other through unofficial organizations since neither formally recognizes the other—have reached 15 cross-strait agreements on issues ranging from tourism to fisheries to crime.

Taiwan has steadily loosened restrictions on Chinese tourists, who have become a common sight at the National Palace Museum and elsewhere.  Some 5.71 million Mainland residents have visited Taiwan since July 2008.

The most important accord, finalized last year, is the Economic Cooperation Framework Agreement, which significantly lowered economic barriers.  Tariffs on hundreds of products will be eliminated over time.

These growing economic ties have profited both sides.  However, the PRC wants more than closer relations.  It wants sovereign control.  Although Beijing has suggested some form of autonomy for Taiwan, there is no doubt where ultimate authority would lie.

Yet as economic links have tightened, the Taiwanese people have moved in the opposite direction politically, ever more determined to retain their independence, de facto if not de jure.  The more they learn about the PRC, the less it seems they want to be ruled by Beijing.

Observed Huang W.F. (David) of National Taiwan University, "more and more Taiwanese realize that they are different than people from the Mainland."  But even if they were the same, why would 23 million people wish to submerge their prosperous and robust democracy in a nation of 1.3 billion, topped by an oppressive autocracy and threatened by violent social unrest?

However, ECFA "is all about politics," wrote John Lee of Sidney's Centre for Independent Studies.  In China's view "this is about enmeshing the two economies in such a way that Taiwan's future is tied to China's."

Which is precisely what Professor Huang fears:  "our autonomy is eroding through closer economic integration with China."  He predicted that "If this goes on for ten years, Taiwan will lose its autonomy."  Huang particularly pointed to Chinese influence over the media.  Hsiao Bi-khim, a former legislator and head of the opposition Democratic Progressive Party's Department of International Affairs, voiced similar concern, stating that "some of the media practices self-censorship" in hopes of profiting from Mainland business.

Government officials respond that Chinese visitors are impressed by Taiwan's open political process and its people's willingness to criticize political leaders.  Ambassador Chen argued that Taiwan "may be the only country which can impact the development of the Mainland."  In his view, Chinese visitors "want to see the way of life here," including Taiwan's democracy.  Ding Shuh-fan (Arthur) of the Institute of International Relations contended that the way 'to improve the situation is to make people in Taiwan more identify with Taiwan," in which case they will keep their autonomy.

On the other hand, it is hard not to feel that some of these arguments are born of desperation:  Ending economic ties with the PRC is inconceivable, ergo they must be beneficial.  Hsiao Bi-khim is less sanguine:  "Instead of Taiwan trying to change China, we see China trying to change Taiwan."  This fear, she claimed, has caused an increasing number of businessmen to secretly support the DPP.

How to best preserve Taiwan's autonomy is an important issue with legislative and presidential elections scheduled for January.  Traditionally the ruling Kuomintang, or KMT, insisted that the ROC was the rightful ruler of all China.  Today the KMT promotes Taiwan's separate existence, while pressing for a more conciliatory policy towards Beijing.  President Ma has espoused "no unification, no independence, and no use of force."

Economic integration, exemplified by ECFA, is the centerpiece of KMT policy.  President Ma declared:  "We have transformed the Taiwan Strait from a danger zone into a peace corridor."  And the process is not over.  Chao Chien-min said that "if President Ma is reelected the current pace will be continued."

What of political integration, as desired by the PRC?  Ambassador Chen said President Ma has refused to talk about reunification:  "Maintenance of the status quo is his top priority."  However, some question the KMT's commitment to Taiwanese sovereignty.  Hsiao Bi-khim said "The perception of our supporters is that Ma is getting too close to China" and they "suspect that Ma would move faster [if reelected] toward political integration."

The opposition DPP once formally advocated independence.  Today it reluctantly accepts the status quo, while pushing to enlarge Taiwan's international space.  The DPP has been critical of Taiwan's growing economic dependence on the PRC.

Nevertheless, DPP presidential candidate Tsai Ing-wen has pledged to continue negotiating with China, but without preconditions.  Chao was skeptical, contending that "if the opposition wins we are going to have a problem" since the DPP does not agree with the so-called "92 consensus," by which Beijing and Taipei fudged the status of Taiwan (one China, interpreted differently).  Without that agreement, he argued, the Chinese may not continue negotiations, since doing so could lead to charges "of accommodating Taiwan's independence."  Lin Wen-cheng similarly warned that "the PRC may grow frustrated and discontinue talks" in the event of a DPP victory.

However, Hsiao Bi-khim responded that the "so-called 92 consensus is a very weak foundation."  There was no real consensus in 1992 between Taipei and Beijing, she argued, and "there is no domestically agreed to consensus."  The only real consensus might be "between the KMT and the Chinese Communist Party."

She noted that the PRC could be expected to attempt to contribute to the DPP's defeat, as in the past, but that does not mean Beijing would not talk with a Tsai government.  Hsiao said there is "no way to come up with a formulation to make China happy, so we won't try to play with words."  Instead, "we need to deal with China and build a stable framework with each other."  She said that former President Chen, the first DPP president, tried to be flexible after his election in 2000, but the PRC "was not prepared to respond" and "the window of opportunity closed quickly."

As for ECFA and the other deals, "We would constantly review them to see if they benefit or hurt the national interest."  However, "whether we should change or even eliminate them is another question."  The issue, Hsiao explained, would "need to be addressed as part of the normal democratic process like any other international agreement."

Although the DPP has emphasized domestic economic issues, Lin Wen-cheng figures that the KMT will press Tsai to answer the China question.  Until now, he said, she "has tried to avoid any discussion of this."  Yet no one really expects the DPP, even if it wins the presidency and control of the legislature, to tear up existing economic accords.

Indeed, Chang Chung-Young of Fo Guang University predicted that even "if the DPP takes power next year they might change their perspective and not go back to the confrontational perspective of three years ago."  Chyungly Lee of National Chengchi University suggested that practical necessity would triumph:  "cross-strait economic relations are irreversible."  They "cannot be reversed."

He's almost certainly correct.  Who in Taiwan wants to give up the extra money earned from commerce and tourism?  Who in Taiwan wants to listen to a renewed litany of threats from Beijing?  Who on Kinmen wants to head back to a bomb shelter to escape an artillery barrage from the Mainland?

Whoever wins in January will face only difficult choices.  As Chao Chien-min acknowledged, "China is doing everything to exploit its strength."  Today that influence in Taiwan is more economic than military.

How can Taiwan escape Beijing's potentially suffocating embrace?  It won't be easy.  Government Information Minister Yang Y.M. (Philip) observed:  "We need to be prudent and patient in dealing with cross-strait relations" in order to "maintain our independence and prosperity."

The Taiwanese people have built an engaging, vibrant, and free society.  One can only hope that sufficient prudence and patience exists on both sides of the Taiwan Strait.****

4009  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Thoughts on QE3 on: August 23, 2011, 10:54:12 AM
US News & World Report  Home Money
Could QE3 Help the Economy?
Why another round of quantitative easing might not be a cure-all for the economy
By Meg Handley

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A third bond-buying program by the Federal Reserve—or quantitative easing, as it's commonly called—is likely to resume by the end of the year or in early 2012, Goldman Sachs economists said in a report Wednesday. The forecast comes on the heels of the Federal Reserve's announcement Tuesday that it would keep rates steady at near-zero levels for the next two years.

"We have changed our call because [Tuesday's] statement suggests that the committee's reaction function to incoming economic news is more dovish than we had previously thought," said the report, which also cited remarks by the Federal Open Market Committee that it would employ additional policy tools if economic conditions deteriorated further.

While this might be welcome news for jittery investors clamoring for Fed intervention to help boost market confidence, experts caution that another round of quantitative easing wouldn't be a panacea for the ailing U.S. economy. Some critics say it would likely amount to just another Band-Aid on the economy's skinned knees.

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For starters, the global economic landscape is drastically different than it was when the Fed launched its second quantitative easing program, QE2, in November 2010. Since then, a series of temporary shocks—a catastrophic earthquake in Japan, debt-ceiling drama in Washington, and the sovereign debt crises in the eurozone, coupled with more fundamental economic maladies—have rocked the global financial system to its core. "The old rules we judge the economy by, the old rules we tried—they may not be completely applicable anymore," says Diane Swonk, chief economist at Chicago-based Mesirow Financial.

The challenges policymakers face differ tremendously as well. Back in 2010, deflation was the crisis of the moment, with markets fearing an unavoidable downward spiral of lower prices, weak demand, and massive lay-offs. Despite the many critiques leveled at the bond-buying program, QE2 seems to have staved off deflation, preventing a vicious cycle that could have plunged the United States into an even deeper recession.

Inflation is now the enemy. Through June, the Consumer Price Index (CPI), which measures the average change in prices of goods and services over time, has increased 3.6 percent over the past 12 months, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. (July's CPI is due next week.) At this time last year, the CPI was increasing at an annual rate of 1.1 percent. Core inflation—the index for all items, less food and energy—edged up to 1.6 percent in June, its highest reading since January 2010. (This measure is more closely tracked by the Fed.)

[See Inflation Stands in the Way of QE3.]

"QE2 prevented deflation, which would have been really bad for the jobs situation," says Guy LeBas, chief fixed-income strategist at financial-services firm Janney Montgomery Scott. "Right now the risk of deflation is pretty slim, so there's really no need to expand the [Fed's] balance sheet."

While the economy might have sidestepped a deflation disaster for the time being, a host of other grave economic problems confront the country, the most pressing being less-than-stellar growth over the past few years. According to recent government figures, GDP grew a meager 1.3 percent in the second quarter, revised downward from initial estimates of almost 2 percent. That figure comes on the heels of a stunningly low 0.4 percent GDP growth rate in the first quarter of the year. Exacerbating a situation already rife with uncertainty and angst, the debt-ceiling drama concluded with the first-ever downgrade of U.S. debt, sending shockwaves through equity markets worldwide.

The situation across the pond doesn't look much better. With much of Europe facing rampant public debt problems and equally serious, if not worse, projections for economic growth, investors are on the defensive, fleeing to ultra-safe investments and even cash, draining global equity markets and depressing business confidence and investment.
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I find it humorous that the author writes "QE2 seems to have staved off deflation" and immediately follows that sentence with "Inflation is now the enemy." I guess it's too big of a leap to realize that QE2 actually caused all that inflation right.

I know it's too big of a leap for anyone at USNEWS to realize that deflation doesn't cause recessions. Stick to Keynes, he's done so well for us.

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Joe of VA @ Aug 22, 2011 17:09:35 PM

What did Einstein say about the definition of Insanity

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Mr.Wright of TX @ Aug 20, 2011 17:10:33 PM

Tell FED Infrastructure, Not QE3
The Warren Goup sent this letter to Ben Bernanke and the FED. They have not and can not rebuke the merit of it's simplicity and effectiveness. Please read this and give it traction by talking it up. It is a far more effective way to grow the economy than QE3 which just puts more money in the pockets of people who are not the least bit interested in GDP except as underlying assets for their derivatives.

4010  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / MLK memorial on: August 23, 2011, 10:14:50 AM
Wow.  Who designed this thing?  It is the ugliest memorial I have ever seen:
4011  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: August 23, 2011, 09:40:58 AM
JDN writes:

"Perry's dealings with Mexico seem to consist of complaining about the border."

Well yeah.  What else is he supposed to do JDN?  Look at Arizona.  They try to take up border security on their own and Brock takes them to court.

Well Gallup has Perry dead even in a poll for PResident with Brock!  He hasn't even gotten off the ground yet and the political assasination attempts by the Democratic party and the MSM so far are failing big time. 
Even Romeny is ahead  grin

4012  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Illogical on: August 23, 2011, 09:36:02 AM
"A dictator with American blood on his hands is about to be overthrown by a popular revolt invoking democratic principles. Not a single American has died in the effort"

No but thousands of Libyans have died.  All the US or one of the European countries had to do was assasinate Khaddafi.

Oh but "assasination" is against international law! rolleyes

So intead we give them weapons, throw in a few bombs missles and let them kill each other for some crazy legal argument?

The logic is all twisted and pathetic in my view.

4013  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: August 22, 2011, 01:16:52 PM
"Newt is pulling a Newt, but he also is a historic figure and brings something of substance to the stage."

Yes.  He made a fantastic point about the absurdity of the NEW 6 person "bipartisan" debt panel in advance.

This is genius to cut off the political fiasco of it all by the knees even before it gets off the ground.

The whole idea of it is nonsense and a waste of time.  We know what they are going to say.  It has all been said before and it is just horse BM.

Newt was brilliant to point it out now so the Repubs can right off the bat let it be known they are not going to be taken for any rides along the socialist pathway based on some silly debt panel commission.   

I think Jeb Bush is on the cable again tonight.  This is as far as I know the second time on.  I wonder if he is trial ballooning.

I agree with Doug's point that G senior was a first rate diplomat but a so so Pres.  W. was great with 9/11 but left a big mess after that.  Not all his fault of course but...

As for Jeb he may be too moderate but he didn't sound like that a few weeks ago.  He was liked in Florida when I lived there.

I remember seeing him campaign with W in Orlando.  Most importantly Bo Derek was on stage with them. grin
4014  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues on: August 21, 2011, 03:12:33 PM
Doug writes Hispanics vote 40/60 Rep/Dem.  I find it hard to believe that most illegals, if had the chance to vote (some I bet do already) would vote Rep at a rate as high as 40% yet this from Barone?Rasmussen:

 ****GOP Shouldn't Panic If Whites Become a Minority
A Commentary By Michael Barone
Monday, April 04, 2011 Email to a Friend ShareThisAdvertisement
 Are whites on the verge of becoming a minority of the American population? That's what some analysts of the 2010 Census results claim. Many go on, sometimes with relish, to say that this spells electoral doom for the Republican Party.   

I think the picture is more complicated than that. And that the demise of the Republican Party is no more foreordained than it was a century ago when Italian, Jewish and Polish immigrants were pouring into the United States in proportions much greater than the Hispanic and Asian immigration of the past two decades.   

The numbers do appear stark. The Census tells us that 16 percent of U.S. residents are Hispanic, up from 13 percent in 2000 and 9 percent in 1990, and that 5 percent are Asian, up from 4 percent in 2000. The percentage of blacks held steady at 13. Among children, the voters of tomorrow, those percentages are higher.   

But it's a mistake to see blacks, Hispanics and Asians as a single "people of color" voting bloc. The 2010 exit poll shows that the Republican percentages in the vote for the U.S. House were 60 percent among whites, 9 percent among blacks, 38 percent among Hispanics and 40 percent among Asians.   

Simple arithmetic tells you that Hispanics and Asians vote more like whites than like blacks. The picture is similar in the 2008 exit poll.   

Moreover, while blacks vote similarly in just about every state, there is wide variation among Hispanics. In 2010 governor elections, Hispanics voted 31 percent Republican in California, 38 percent Republican in Texas and 50 percent Republican in Florida (where Cubans are no longer a majority of Hispanics).   

As RealClearPolitics senior political analyst Sean Trende has written, Hispanics tend to vote 10 percent to 15 percent less Republican than whites of similar income and education levels. An increasingly Hispanic electorate puts Republicans at a disadvantage, but not an overwhelming one.   

The same is true of Asians. In 2010, Democratic Sen. Harry Reid got 79 percent from Asians in Nevada, where many are Filipinos. But the Asians in Middlesex County, N.J., most of whom are from India, seem to have voted for Republican Gov. Chris Christie in 2009.   

The 2010 Census tells something else that may prove important: There's been a slowdown of immigration since the recession began in 2007 and even some reverse migration. If you look at the Census results for Hispanic immigrant entry points -- East Los Angeles and Santa Ana, Calif., the east side of Houston, the Pilsen neighborhood in Chicago -- you find that the Hispanic population has dropped sharply since 2000.   

One reason is the business cycle. The 2000 Census was taken on April 1, 2000, less than a month after the peak of the tech boom. Unemployment was low, immigration was high, and entry-point houses and apartments were crammed with large families. 

The 2010 Census was taken after two years of recession, when immigration had slackened off. We simply don't know whether this was just a temporary response to the business cycle or the beginning of a permanent decline in migration.   

Past mass migrations, which most experts expected to continue indefinitely, in fact ended abruptly. Net Puerto Rican migration to New York City stopped in 1961, and the huge movement of Southern blacks to Northern cities ended in 1965. Those who extrapolate current trends far into the future end up being wrong sooner or later. 

Finally there is an assumption -- which is particularly strong among those who expect a majority "people of color" electorate to put Democrats in power permanently -- that racial consciousness never changes. But sometimes it does. 

American blacks do have common roots in slavery and segregation. But African immigrants don't share that heritage, and Hispanics come from many different countries and cultures (there are big regional differences just within Mexico). The Asian category includes anyone from Japan to Lebanon and in between. 

Under the definitions in use in the America of a century ago, when Southern and Eastern European immigrants were not regarded as white, the United States became a majority non-white nation sometime in the 1950s. By today's definitions, we'll become majority non-white a few decades hence.   

But that may not make for the vast cultural and political change some predict. Not if we assimilate newcomers, and if our two political parties adapt, as we and they have done in the past.   

Michael Barone, senior political analyst for The Washington Examiner, is a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, a Fox News Channel contributor and a co-author of The Almanac of American Politics.

Rasmussen Reports Platinum Members get an all-access pass to polling news, analysis and insight not available to the general public.

Scott Rasmussen, president of Rasmussen Reports, has been an independent pollster for more than a decade. To learn more about our methodology, click here.
©2011 Rasmussen Reports, LLC****
4015  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Bin Laden death photo on: August 20, 2011, 11:32:08 AM
Drugereport reveals POTUS has decided to release Bin Laden death photo.

For the life of me I cannot understand why NOW.  Absolutely no one I know or have read or seen is questioning if Bin Laden is dead or not. 

This has to be a political decision.  Like to remind us what a great military leader he has been because "he" got the guy.

As far as I am concerned I don't need to see the photo.

As far as I am concerned this won't help this guy in the polls.

Wow is he desparate or what?

Even Jimmy Carter was not this bad.
4016  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / cynical cannot barely begin to explain Brock on: August 18, 2011, 07:36:27 PM
From my post of July 15:

"Mark my words if Brock loses we will see him pardon every illegal here and around the world.  That will be HIS payback."

Fast forward to present.

Well since he is cratering in the polls (along with the country) he has decided not to wait to start the pardon process.
Just as he finishes his "bus tour" of those gun and religion "clinging" middle America types he pulls
this proverbial "eat me" or "middle finger" to conservatives:

****New DHS Rules Cancel Deportations – Washington Times

The Homeland Security Department said Thursday it will halt deportation proceedings on a case-by-case basis against illegal immigrants who meet certain criteria such as attending school, having family in the military or are primarily responsible for other family members’ care.

The move, announced in letters to Congress, won immediate praise from Hispanic activists and Democrats who had chided President Obama for months for the pace of deportations and had argued he had authority to exempt broad swaths of illegal immigrants from deportation.

“Today’s announcement shows that this president is willing to put muscle behind his words and to use his power to intervene when the lives of good people are being ruined by bad laws,” said Rep. Luis V. Gutierrez, Illinois Democrat.

In the letters to Congress, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said her department and the Justice Department will review all ongoing cases and see who meets the new criteria on a case-by-case basis.

“This case-by-case approach will enhance public safety,” she said. “Immigration judges will be able to more swiftly adjudicate high priority cases, such as those involving convicted felons.”

The new rules apply to those who have been apprehended and are in deportation proceedings, but have not been officially ordered out of the country by a judge. Miss Napolitano said a working group will try to come up with “guidance on how to provide for appropriate discretionary consideration” for “compelling cases” in those instances where someone has already been ordered deported.

It was unclear how many people might be affected by the new rules, though in fiscal year 2010 the government deported nearly 200,000 illegal immigrants who it said did not have criminal records.

The Obama administration has argued for months that it did not have authority to grant blanket absolution, and Miss Napolitano stressed that these cases will be treated individually, though the new guidance applies across the board.

In June, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the agency that handles interior immigration law enforcement, issued new guidance expanding authority to decline to prosecute illegal immigrants. The goal, ICE leaders said, was to focus on their priority of catching illegal immigrants who have also committed other crimes or are part of gangs.

The chief beneficiaries of the new guidance are likely to be illegal immigrant students who would have been eligible for legal status under the Dream Act, which stalled in Congress last year.

“Today is a victory not just for immigrants but for the American people as a whole because it makes no sense to deport Dream Act students and others who can make great contributions to America and pose no threat,” Mr. Gutierrez said. “It is not in our national interest to send away young people who were raised in the U.S. and have been educated here and want only to contribute to this country’s success. “

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat who earlier this year wrote asking Homeland Security to exempt illegal immigrant students from deportation, said the move will free up immigration courts to handle cases involving serious criminals.

Both men said, though, that they will continue to push for legislation that would grant a path to citizenship to illegal immigrants and expands new pathways for more immigrants to come legally in the future.

But groups pushing for a crackdown on illegal immigration said the administration’s move abused the Constitution by usurping a power Congress should have.

“Supporters of comprehensive and targeted amnesties for illegal aliens have consistently failed to win approval by Congress or gain support from the American public,” said Dan Stein, president of the Federation for American Immigration Reform. “Having failed in the legislative process, the Obama administration has simply decided to usurp Congress’s constitutional authority and implement an amnesty program for millions of illegal aliens.”****

4017  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Media Issues on: August 18, 2011, 05:19:58 PM
Which bus do you think Brock is in the black one or the red one?  Or neither?   undecided
Maxine Waters is pissed his tour didn't go through urban Black communities.   tongue
Hell he knows her crowd is going to vote for him.

What does she think?
4018  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: August 18, 2011, 03:10:16 PM
"Gore was then considered the most conservative of the Dems running"

I recall listening to Gore back then and he did not sound like the Gore of Clinton.  He did sound strong on defense and social values.

The only conceivable Rep candidate I would have trouble voting for Ron Paul.

To vote for him I would have to decide to allow Israel to be destroyed or vote against a Republican.

It is analogous to the situation that liberal American Jews are in now.  They apparantly decided to support their party over Israel.

For me to vote for Ron Paul would be the same for me. 

He has made his intentions over Israel clear.  Additionally I suspect though I guess I have little evidence he simply does not like Jews.

4019  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / US Muslims in love with Obama on: August 16, 2011, 01:47:18 PM
Yet my fellow Jews are not too far behind smiley

****( -- Eighty percent of Muslim Americans approve of the way Barack Obama is handling his job as president, according to a newly released survey conducted by the Abu Dhabi Gallup Center, a partnership between Gallup and the Crown Prince Court of Abu Dhabi.

According to the survey, 65 percent of Jewish Americans approve of the job Obama is doing; 60 percent of atheists, agnostics, and those of no religion approve; 50 percent of Catholics approve; 37 percent of Protestants approve and 25 percent of Mormons approve.

Although published this month, the survey of Muslim Americans was actually completed on April 9. (In Gallup’s overall polling in the week that ended April 10, Obama’s approval was at 45 percent, slightly higher than the 42 percent it hit last week.)

Obama’s approval among Muslim Americans has declined since 2009 but still remains far higher than the approval President George W. Bush’s won among Muslim Americans in 2008.  In that year, only 7 percent of Muslim Americans said they approved of the job Bush was doing.

In 2009, 84 percent of Muslim Americans said they approved of the job Obama was doing. That dropped to 78 percent in 2010 and then rose to 80 percent this year.

The Abu Dhabi Gallup Center says it interviewed 3,883 self-identified Muslim Americans between Jan. 1, 2008 and April 9, 2011 to get its polling trends in that community. The interviews were part of Gallup’s ongoing polling of at least 1,000 American adults 350 days per year.****

4020  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Fed, Monetary Policy, Inflation, US Dollar & other currencies, & Gold/Silver on: August 16, 2011, 12:59:45 PM
I've read but cannot find citation wherein 1 out of 3 NJ residents on public money, soc sec, medicare, medicaid, food stamps, pensions etc.

As for Brocks approval rating it is down 6% in Jersey yet still he holds 54% approval according to a poll in the Home Tribune:

***Poll shows lower approval rating from N.J. residents for Obama
10:34 AM, Aug. 10, 2011  |  10Comments
 New Jerseyans are split over how President Barack Obama handled debt ceiling talks. / The prolonged battle over the nation's debt ceiling has taken a toll on President Obama's approval rating in New Jersey, with 54 percent of residents saying they like the president's job performance, a Monmouth University/NJ Press Media poll showed.

That's down six points from his all-time high of 60 percent in May, in a survey taken shortly after the U.S. killed Osama bin Laden.

Thirty-seven percent of all adults surveyed disapprove of Obama's job performance, while 39 percent of registered voters give the president low marks.***

To think that 54% of people in NJ STILL approve of Brock is incredible.  They want their entitlements which continues to expand.That is why it is remarkable we could possibly have a governor with an R before his name and why he would likely commit political suicide if he was a "strict" conservative.  I am not sure which is worse Kalifornia or Jersilicious.

As for the printing of money increase,
I wasn't cirticizing Scott Grannis piece what I meant was I look at it as a bad thing.  I just don't understand how endlessly printing money M2 can be without any consequences.  I don't know if Scott thinks it good bad or indifferent.  This was my concern though I am obviously not too privy on economics.  Yet I also read economists are also varied in opinions and usually cannot predict much either.

4021  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Public unions holding NY/NJ hostage again on: August 16, 2011, 11:37:40 AM
Public unions holding taxpayers hostage again.  Commuters travelling between NJ and NY should pay $15 now?  to pay for their benefits and pensions.  Folks this has to go.  The country is broke and I resent it.  Why doesn't  Buffet set up a multibillion $ fund for these public union people.  He is such a good Demorat (I mean "crat"):

****Toll Increase JERSEY CITY, NJ (CBSNewYork) - Commuters accustomed to forking it over at various Hudson River crossings are telling the Port Authority Of New York and New Jersey what they think of proposed toll and fare increases.

The Port Authority is holding nine public hearings Tuesday on the proposed increases, which will affect bridges, tunnels and PATH trains.

1010 WINS’ Steve Sandberg reports: Both Sides Sound Off In Jersey City

Union laborers donned in bright orange shirts came by the busloads to voice their support of the hikes in Jersey City while some commuters spoke out in opposition.

“We cannot afford not to make these investments because we need the jobs,” one worker said.

Those speaking out against the proposal say the unions are being used as pawns to exploit other working people who can’t afford the increase.

“This is outrageous and greedy,” one woman said.

One Jersey City man even called the public hearings a sham.

“They’re being held in a place that nobody can find, they’re being held at a time that nobody can come,” he said.

1010 WINS’ Terry Sheridan reports: Large Union Turnout On Staten Island

About 100 people packed the hearing at the Port Ivory facility on Staten Island — the majority of them from the union.

“Nobody wants to pay more for everyday activities but there’s also no such thing as a free lunch,” Michael Maguire, of the Mason Tenders District Council, said.

The agency says it needs the additional revenue the hikes will generate to pay for a new 10-year capital investment plan, maintain security, and complete the over-budget World Trade Center.

Union members pack a hearing on Port Authority toll hikes - Jersey City, NJ - Aug 16, 2011 (credit: Peter Haskell / WCBS 880)

Among the details of the proposed hike:

EZ-Pass peak tolls would increase from $8 to $12 this year, and to $14 in 2014
EZ-Pass off-peak tolls would increase from $6 to $10 this year, and to $12 in 2014.
Cash tolls would increase from $8 to $15 this year, and to $17 in 2014.
Governors Andrew Cuomo and Chris Christie are both opposed to the proposal. Cuomo called it “A non-starter for obvious reasons,” while Christie said simply “You’re kidding, right?”

WCBS 880′s Peter Haskell: Compelling Arguments On Both Sides

Some motorists are disgusted by the toll hike.

“Unemployment is up and they’re continuing to raise everything,” David Lechese said. “What do we do to survive everyday? Gasoline prices, tolls, public transportation, food costs, energy costs — everything is going up.”

The Verizon strike is one thing since it is a private company the public unions have got to go and stop holding taxpayers hostage.
This is crazy:

***Union members pack a hearing on Port Authority toll hikes - Jersey City, NJ - Aug 16, 2011 (credit: Peter Haskell / WCBS 880)

Angela McBryan said she is barely scraping by as it is and now the Port Authority wants to take any spare cash she might have.

“We can’t afford to go over the bridge so we just avoid it,”McBryan said.

CBS2 HD reported that the Port Authority is actually seeking a lower hike, and proposed such a steep raise to provide elected officials the political breathing room to approve any increase at all.

The plan goes up for vote on Friday. The governors can veto it within 10 days.****
4022  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / 90 minutes week increas longevity on: August 16, 2011, 11:11:49 AM
I guess my only question is the extra three years of life span spent on the treadmill  smiley:

****15 Minutes' Daily Exercise May Boost Life Expectancy By Three Years.
ABC World News (8/15, story 9, 0:30, Sawyer) reported, "If you need any more convincing that a little bit of exercise can make a huge difference in your life, here's some powerful new proof: A study in the medical journal Lancet looked at 400,000 people and found just 15 minutes of exercise a day increases life expectancy three years."

        The AP  (8/16, Chang) reports that "researchers at the National Health Research Institutes in Taiwan" noting that World Health Organization guidance  , CDC recommendations  , and guidelines from "other countries recommend that adults get at least a half-hour of moderate workout most days of the week," conducted the study to determine whether "exercising less than the recommended half-hour was still helpful." They asked "about 416,000 Taiwanese adults" how much exercising they "did the previous month" and recorded study participants' "progress for eight years on average." The research team found those who "exercised just 15 minutes a day -- or 90 minutes a week -- cut their risk of death by 14 percent" compared with those who did not exercise; and both men and women "benefited equally" from exercising.****

4023  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Archaeology on: August 16, 2011, 11:06:39 AM
ancient UFC like statue:,7340,L-4109238,00.html
4024  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Fed, Monetary Policy, Inflation, US Dollar & other currencies, & Gold/Silver on: August 16, 2011, 10:53:42 AM
"No matter how you look at it, this is a major event"  huh

Why can't the Fed just print the money and hand it out to ordinary citizens?

Can't we spend the money better than them?

It would "stimulate" consumers and of course isn't that what the US is a country of sales?

Just give all of us a mill and we all go shopping.

OTOH we are kind of doing that with the welfare state.  1 out of three New Jersians are on the dole.

That is why Brock has an approval rating of 54% in the Jersey shore Jersilicious state. sad

4025  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: China on: August 15, 2011, 06:04:14 PM
That was a quote from the article in Economist not me.
4026  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Economist on No child left behind on: August 15, 2011, 01:51:07 PM
 No Child Left Behind
Testing times
Deadlock over standards in schools
Aug 13th 2011 | NEW YORK | from the print edition
SEVENTEEN months ago Barack Obama sent Congress a proposal to revamp the No Child Left Behind Act (NCLB), one of George Bush junior’s cherished policies. In March Mr Obama said he wanted to see a new version of the act in place before the new school year began. Even though “Back to School” sales signs are already in shop windows, there has been little movement on Capitol Hill. Fed up with waiting, Arne Duncan, the secretary of education, said this week that he will start releasing states from the need to comply with NCLB.

When Mr Bush signed NCLB a decade ago, with support from both sides of the aisle, it decreed that 100% of students should be reading and doing mathematics at the appropriate level for their ages by 2014. Sadly 82% of America’s public schools are at risk of failing to meet those targets. States are now worried that they will lose vital federal funding because the NCLB connects aid with test results.

The main reason why American schools do badly is poor teaching. NCLB has helped point this out. But it also produces distortions. Nobody can excuse school districts that have resorted to cheating to pass the tests. But others found that when they raised their standards, they saw test scores fall. In Tennessee, for example, results showed 91% of students were proficient in maths; after the state raised its standards, scores fell to 34%. Instead of recognising the improvements, the current law penalises Tennessee for the poor scores. NCLB has in fact long been criticised for its reliance on tests and not enough on progress. One study examined the first five years of NCLB and found that while more time was devoted for tested subjects, other subjects such as science and art were cut, on average by 30 minutes a day.

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Looking for someone to blame
End of a fantasy
»Testing times
Unexpected consequences
Some justice at last
Lock and load
Who isn’t coming for dinner
ReprintsMr Duncan has already spoken to more than 30 governors about issuing waivers from NCLB. Most want them. The waivers will still demand accountability, but allow much more flexibility. Where there’s a high bar, Mr Duncan says he wants to “get out of their way and let them hit that higher bar”. Specifics will be released in September, but the waivers will probably reflect reforms already rewarded in the Obama administration’s “Race to the Top” programme for educational grants. These include evaluating teachers.

The White House sees the waivers as merely being a bridge to congressional action. But John Kline, the chairman of the House education committee, is worried that they may instead undermine his committee’s efforts to rewrite the original bill. Jamie Gass of the Centre for School Reform at Boston’s Pioneer Institute concedes that Mr Duncan has the power to grant waivers from NCLB, but reckons that he cannot tie the waivers to conditions that have not yet been sanctioned by Congress.

Mike Petrilli of the Fordham Institute in Washington, DC, says there is no question that the states need relief from the original NCLB, but thinks that Mr Duncan is being politically tone-deaf. The row, Mr Petrilli reckons, could jeopardise other education programmes backed by the administration. That is overstating it. There will be opposition, particularly from conservatives, but Mr Duncan was right not to wait for Congress to act. Otherwise, he would have been kept waiting a long time.

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4027  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Aircraft carrier on: August 15, 2011, 01:48:43 PM
China’s aircraft-carrier
Name and purpose to be determined
The Chinese navy takes a much-heralded step forward but its intentions are vague
Aug 13th 2011 | BEIJING | from the print edition

 It’s definitely big, and it floats
ON AUGUST 10th, after years of secretive work, the Chinese navy launched its first aircraft-carrier on its maiden voyage. The Chinese media hailed the vessel as a sign of China’s emergence as a sea power, one they insist has only peaceful intent. Its neighbours are not so delighted.

State-controlled media had been predicting the ship’s imminent launch for weeks, prompting Chinese military enthusiasts to converge on the north-eastern port city of Dalian in the hope of seeing it set out. One newspaper said a fire escape on a nearby IKEA store was a good vantage point, but the Chinese navy kept quiet about when the date would be.
It has reason to be diffident. The ship is hardly a symbol of China’s prowess in technology. It was bought in 1998 from Ukraine, where it had been rusting half-finished since its first launch a decade earlier. The Ukrainians were told it would be used as a floating casino (they sold it without weapons or engines). But unlike two other ex-Soviet carriers in China that ended up as theme parks, this one was taken to a navy shipyard where, in 2005, it got a telltale coat of Chinese military paint. It was not until July that China confirmed it had been refitting the ship.

China has been mulling plans to build an aircraft-carrier since at least the 1970s. Officials debated how useful one would be in a conflict over Taiwan, the military planners’ main preoccupation until a few years ago. Land-based aircraft and missiles could be deployed easily across the Taiwan Strait. But in the past decade China has become more focused on acquiring the means to project power farther afield, the better to defend shipping lanes, it says, and to help relief efforts.

Other countries in the region believe China also wants to assert territorial claims in the South China Sea more vigorously. Vietnam and the Philippines have been complaining in recent months about what they see as a more aggressive posture by China in that area. There had been speculation that the aircraft-carrier would be launched in time for the Communist Party’s 90th birthday on July 1st. It is possible that its leaders decided that a lower-key affair a few weeks later might avoid stoking the neighbours’ suspicions.

For the time being the region’s pre-eminent naval power, America, is showing little sign of concern. The Chinese carrier’s actual deployment might yet be years away. China will take longer still to gain the expertise needed to deploy a carrier-based battle group, with all its supporting vessels. It is reportedly building two more aircraft-carriers (from scratch, this time). But the Americans worry more about other bits of China’s rapidly improving arsenal, from carrier-busting missiles to submarines and land-based fighter jets.

Unlike the Soviets, the Chinese appear not to be trying to match the size and capability of America’s huge fleet. Officials describe the aircraft-carrier programme partly as a prestige project. China has been acutely conscious of being the only permanent member of the United Nations without a carrier. Its rival India has long had one. Thailand has one too. Japan, another rival, has a carrier for helicopters that could be adapted for fighters.

China’s ship does not yet have a name. In Soviet hands it was the Varyag (a sister ship is the only operational carrier in Russia’s navy). Chinese internet users have made many suggestions. Some believe it should be named after a province. Chinese heroes are also popular, especially Shi Lang, a Chinese admiral who conquered Taiwan in the 17th century. Officials would be wise to avoid that one.

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4028  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Economist Wisconsin recall failure on: August 15, 2011, 01:45:55 PM
Wisconsin’s recall vote
End of a fantasy
A backlash against the state’s feisty conservatives fizzles out
Aug 13th 2011 | FOND DU LAC, WISCONSIN | from the print edition
IN A neighbourhood of double garages and tightly cropped lawns, a woman stops her car in the middle of the road and leaps out to tell Randy Hopper, her state senator, how strongly she supports the reforms he and other Republicans legislators have championed in Wisconsin. There were not enough such voters to save Mr Hopper, who was turfed out of office in the middle of his term in a recall election this week. But there were enough of them to deny Democrats the majority they were seeking in the state Senate, and to dampen hopes on the left that aggrieved public-sector workers could restore their electoral fortunes nationwide next year.

In February the Republicans who control the state legislature had tried to push through a “budget repair” bill which aimed to reduce spending in part by severely restricting collective bargaining for the public sector. Government employees were to be stripped of any say in their benefits, while their pay, in future, would rise no faster than the consumer price index. The Democratic minority in the Senate, lacking the votes to block the bill, instead fled the state, depriving the chamber of a quorum. It was only after the Republicans worked out a parliamentary manoeuvre to get around the quorum requirement and pass the collective-bargaining reforms, three weeks later, that they returned, vowing to use every means at their disposal to avenge the Republican assault on labour.

One of those tools is recall elections, which Wisconsin allows for any public official, provided that they are at least a year into their current term and enough voters sign a petition. The main object of the Democrats’ ire, Governor Scott Walker, had been elected barely three months prior to the beginning of the row, as had all of the state representatives and half of the state senators; they cannot yet be recalled. So the Democrats focused instead on recalling the eight Republican senators over a year into their terms who had voted for the reforms. The Republicans, not to be outdone, decided to try to recall eight Democratic senators who had absconded.

The Democrats only managed to drum up enough signatures to force six of the Republicans to face the voters again, on August 9th. Had they won three of those races, they would have gained control of the Senate, which would have allowed them to stymie any new Republican initiatives they disliked. In the end, however, they won only two. Moreover, two Democrats face recalls of their own next week, which could conceivably take the two parties back to square one.

The Democrats argue that it was a victory simply to get sufficient numbers of voters worked up enough to force the recall elections in the first place. The Republican senators whom they took on were last elected in 2008, a good year for Democrats, so were always going to be hard to dislodge. There clearly has been a small swing in the Democrats’ favour since 2008, and a bigger one relative to their dire showing in 2010. But their failure to win a more sweeping victory nevertheless puts paid to their claim that a clear majority of ordinary Wisconsinites find the governor’s agenda too extreme.

What all this means for the rest of the country is unclear, to say the least. The dispute has definitely riled many in Wisconsin: turnout was much higher than in most special elections. But it was still lower than in a typical presidential year. That makes it hard to infer anything much about next year’s elections, when voters are likely to be more numerous but perhaps less inflamed. One thing seems certain, however: the Democratic fantasy of an irresistible leftward swing among voters outraged by Republican extremism is just that.

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4029  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: August 13, 2011, 11:07:12 AM
Well we are seeing the Crat talking points:

"Save and protect the middle class"

"Save and protect Medicare and Social Security"

And make the "rich" and "corporations" pay "their fair share".

The Republican who can effectively counter these Crat lines will win and crush Brock. 

I guess they will play the racial ethnic cards too.  However this is losing credibility except with the die hard white haters.

The women card? is probably caput too.
4030  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: August 12, 2011, 05:11:20 PM
"The former Minnesota governor with a genuine record of accomplishment must be asking himself how he got to this point. He was no doubt told he had to challenge Ms. Bachmann so he doesn't finish behind her in Saturday's Iowa straw poll, but the inevitable result was that he looked smaller than he is."

I think Tim would be better off just forgeting Bachman and taking it right to Brock.  Highlight his strong points and why he can straighten out the country.  Bachman will likely eventually self destruct or become moot as people see being stubburn alone is not enough.   I am still scratching my head at Morris calling her a "genius".  I must be missing something.

I notice Gigot totally ignores Newt.  If Newt keeps doing what he did last night than that will be proven a mistake.

4031  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: August 12, 2011, 03:42:38 PM
You make sense   shocked when you point out that in the primary debates they should be attacking each other in an effort to set themselves apart from the rest of the pack.
However, for me personally I want to see who is best to lead the country and beat Obama.  To me whoever can display this skill/feat/ability or whatever you want to call it is who I am voting for.

Like Doug pointed out who is best to stand right up next to Obama point out why the direction he is taking us is into a deep ditch and how they will right the ship around.  Or another way who can highlight the contrast between bigger government and smaller government personal freedom etc.

Last night I thought Newt did that well.  Romney looked like he could do it.  Even  Santorum sounded good in that regard.

Indeed one thing I came away with was a lot more confidence and good feelings that whoever wins the Rep party will be able to take Brock apart.

The three on the bottom were Cain, Huntsman, and Paul - the latter states "so what if Iran gets nucs" - as a Jew - a total non starter for me. 
4032  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Congressman's grandson pulled out gun to save family on: August 12, 2011, 01:34:47 PM
Man arrested for invasion of congressman's Iowa home
77-year-old Rep. Boswell fought off man who attacked daughter
Rep. Leonard Boswell, D-Iowa, helped fight off an invader at his farm house on Saturday night. staff and news service reports
updated 7/19/2011 4:09:02 PM ET 2011-07-19T20:09:02 Font: + - DES MOINES, Iowa — One man has been arrested, and a warrant issued for another in an attack at Iowa Congressman Leonard Boswell's home Saturday night, according to a report in the Des Moines Register.

The alleged getaway driver, Cody John Rollins, 19, of Lamoni, Iowa, was arrested Monday, according to Decatur County Sheriff Herbert Muir. The alleged intruder, David Palmer Dewberry, 20, of Fremont, Neb., has a warrant out for his arrest.

The intruder is the son of a family friend, reported the Des Moines Register. Police asked the public to be on the lookout for Dewberry, who could be armed and dangerous.

According to online court records, Dewberry has a record. He was charged with third-degree theft in 2009 in juvenile court. He will face felony charges of burglary and assault while committing a felony if arrested, police said.

Boswell, an eight-term congressman helped fight off an armed man, allegedly Dewberry, who invaded his farm house in Decatur County and attacked his daughter on Saturday night, according to a statement from his office.

The attack occurred around 10:45 p.m. on Saturday at a farm in Lamoni, where Boswell, a 77-year-old Democrat who represents Iowa's third congressional district, was spending the weekend with his wife, Dody, 77, daughter, Cynthia Brown, and grandson, Mitchell Brown, 22.

"The intruder entered the front door of the farm house and physically assaulted Cindy while demanding money at gunpoint," read the statement from Boswell's office.

Advertise | AdChoicesAdvertise | AdChoicesAdvertise | AdChoicesAfter hearing his daughter's screams, the congressman "entered the walkway of their house and immediately went for the guy's gun and was wrestling with him. They were both on the ground," Boswell's chief of staff Grant Woodard told local news station KCCI.

While the two scuffled, Boswell's grandson Mitchell grabbed a loaded .12-gauge shotgun from a nearby room and confronted the intruder, who then fled into the surrounding field and reportedly was still on the run.

"That was my daughter. This guy had his hand on her throat and a gun to her face. If he was going to shoot somebody, I preferred that he shoot me," Boswell said in an interview with

Boswell praised his entire family for their "grit" and "determination" in fighting off the attacker.

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Brigham and Women's Hospital Chimp attack victim reveals her new face New leukemia treatment exceeds 'wildest expectations' "The congressman just did what anybody would do if he knew his family was in trouble," said Woodard. "He jumped right into the situation and helped his daughter."

Boswell lives in Des Moines and owns the farm in southern Iowa. He is recovering from a broken rib suffered during the incident.

"I wanted a piece of him. He was threatening somebody I care for very much," Boswell told reporters at a Statehouse news conference, according to

The Decatur County Sheriff's Department and state and federal authorities are investigating. The sheriff's department said Saturday that the intruder had not been caught. The attacker is still at large.

Decatur County Sheriff Herbert Muir said "we might" have a suspect in mind. "We have a direction we're going," Muir said, according to

"The congressman says the military is the best training for situations like this," said Woodard, referring to Boswell's 20-year military career. "It's a wakeup call to everybody to take precautions and do what they need to do to keep their family safe."

© 2011
4033  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / STAT Jornolist reply to debate on: August 12, 2011, 10:39:00 AM
This is so obviously the jornolist with the liberal pollsters and party operatives all in cohoots.  They know Brock is a loser so we will see blitzkreg (sp?) like attacks from them about every republican thing that comes up:
4034  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: August 12, 2011, 09:44:53 AM
"CCP - I think you should have put this in the Humor section!     
This is a joke, right?"

JDN, no I am afraid it is not a joke.

Just more "progressism creep" in our society.

It really is a cancer.

"I find it interesting that Jews in general are brilliant. My compliments!"

Thank you I will include myself in that group!  grin

Unfortunately some Jews (liberals) are misguided and have used their brains inadvertantly to destroy the United States as they think they are making the world a better place.  There appears some signs at least a few of them are learning the foolishness of there ways.  The rest are stubborn to the death and will narcissitically think they know better then the rest of us.

4035  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: August 12, 2011, 09:35:07 AM
Crafty your impressions were about the same as mine.

Newt was best followed close by Romney.

Last night suggested to me that the best strategy for the candidates is not to go after each other trying to distinguish themselves from the pack that way but to go after Brock.

Like Newt did.  Of course everyone knows Newt so he has a bit of an advantage that way but I think others would serve themselves better doing the same.

I am not sure why I respect Bachman but I just can't seem to like her.

I agree with Newt about the Mickey Mouse questions.  OTOH it might be good practice for the candidates to learn to deal with them now rather than later by MSM left wing gotcha types.
4036  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: August 11, 2011, 07:34:57 PM
Too bad Perry won't be in the debate tonight.

Romney handled himself well against the loser heckler.

So far for me Romney, Pawlenty, and I am still not totally righting off Newt.

Maybe Perry.

As for me nothing wrong with a little religion - as long as it doesn't include Sharia law. smiley
4037  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / American Acadamy of Family Practice on: August 11, 2011, 07:29:53 PM
If this doesn't beat it all - now politicallyt correct health care in our medical journals. 

I get this journal for free in the mail and it often has some good medical reviews.  This month it comes out with articles on global warming for doctors and patients.  I have a feeling this is a sign of what is to come.  Quality measurements of primary care will include politically correct indoctrination orders from the Federal payer - Department of Health and Human Services - Medicare.

For goodness sakes now it is my job to discuss the health ramifications of "global warming" with patients?  And how we can all help to work towards fixing this?   Can we ever stop being told what to do? angry

****Slowing Global Warming: Benefits for Patients and the Planet
Parker C L
August 1 2011 Vol. 84 No. 3
View Abstract

Global warming will cause significant harm to the health of persons and their communities by compromising food and water supplies; increasing risks of morbidity and mortality from infectious diseases and heat stress; changing social determinants of health resulting from extreme weather events, rising sea levels, and expanding flood plains; and worsening air quality, resulting in additional morbidity and mortality from respiratory and cardiovascular diseases. Vulnerable populations such as children, older persons, persons living at or below the poverty level, and minorities will be affected earliest and greatest, but everyone likely will be affected at some point. Family physicians can help reduce greenhouse gas emissions, stabilize the climate, and reduce the risks of climate change while also directly improving the health of their patients. Health interventions that have a beneficial effect on climate change include encouraging patients to reduce the amount of red meat in their diets and to replace some vehicular transportation with walking or bicycling. Patients are more likely to make such lifestyle changes if their physician asks them to and leads by example. Medical offices and hospitals can become more energy efficient by recycling, purchasing wind-generated electricity, and turning off appliances, computers, and lights when not in use. Moreover, physicians can play an important role in improving air quality and reducing greenhouse gas emissions by advocating for enforcement of existing air quality regulations and working with local and national policy makers to further improve air quality standards, thereby improving the health of their patients and slowing global climate change.
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Here is a handout we can give to patients:
4038  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Western society unrest on: August 10, 2011, 02:12:22 PM
When I see this it kind of reminds me of the old historical film clips of Russians running through the squares during the Russian revolution - workers rights.  There is clearly a parallel.  Get the aristocrats, the rich.  We deserve more.  Socialism proves time and again what we get is not nearly as much trickle down wealth as much as trickle up poverty.  History repeats itself.  We need candidates who will make this clear.

****Economic Uncertainty Leading to Global Unrest
Published: Tuesday, 9 Aug 2011 | 3:35 PM ET Text Size By: Mark Koba
Senior Editor

London is reeling from three nights of rioting that's poured hundreds of people into the streets, leaving several local neighborhoods in shambles. One man is dead, dozens injured and arrested. 
Leon Neal | AFP | Getty Images
Two police cars and a large number of buildings were on Saturday set ablaze in north London following a protest over the fatal shooting of a 29-year-old man in an armed stand-off with officers. The patrol cars were torched as dozens gathered outside the police station on the High Road in Tottenham.

The protests have now spread to other cities, with violence reported in parts of Birmingham, Liverpool and Bristol.

Great Britain and other parts of the world are experiencing unrest at a time of global economic uncertainty and stock market volatility.

Here's a look at what's happening around the world and how economic downturns are bringing protestors into the streets.

Great Britain

Police in London say the violence began during a vigil for a man, Mark Duggan, who’d been killed by police. However, those on the streets say what's happening goes beyond one man's death.

In late June, half the public schools in Britain where closed by a massive protest over public pensions cuts, including three major teachers' unions, customs and immigration officers, and air traffic controllers. Some 750,000 people took part in the protest.

London's press has reported that discontent has been simmering among Britain's urban poor for years, in neighborhoods like Tottenham, where the riots started.

But as one man told NBC News about an economic protest two months ago, "There was not a word in the press about our protests. Last night (Saturday) a bit of rioting and looting and now look around you."

In response to the violence, Prime Minister David Cameron has said law and order will prevail in Great Britain and he's doubled the amount of police officers in the streets and instituted curfews for young adults.

Cameron's conservative government is under fire for spending cuts to social programs in order to help reduce the country's debt. Among those hit the hardest are large numbers of minority youths who have been at the forefront of the unrest.


Some 250,000 people took to the streets of Tel Aviv, Israel, on Saturday over the rising cost of living. Demonstrations actually began last month when a few people set up tents in an expensive part of Tel Aviv to protest rising property prices.

The protests have moved to other cities in Israel, where some 50,000 people rallied.

The demonstrations have turned into a major challenge for the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Polls released last week show his approval ratings have dropped while support for the protesters is high.

Netanyahu has announced a series of reforms including freeing up land for construction and offering tax breaks. But the reforms have only increased anger in the streets, according to reports.

Here are some of the demands from protestors, according to Reuters:

Increase personal tax brackets for top earners
Enshrine the right to housing in the law; introduce rent controls; boost mortgage relief
Stop further privatization of things such as health facilities
Provide free education for all from the age of three months
Raise the minimum wage to 50 percent of the average wage
Spain, Greece , Portugal

All three of these European Union nations have experienced protests and rioting in reaction to government austerity programs and bad economic conditions.

Aris Messinis | AFP | Getty Images
Demonstrators shout slogans against government's recent austerity economy measures during a protest in Athens.

In late June, riots broke out in Athens and other parts of Greece as the country's parliament voted to approve severe cutbacks in government spending.

Dozens were hurt and businesses destroyed as police battled rioters with tear gas and night sticks.

Greek lawmakers made the cuts in order to receive more bailout money from the International Monetary Fund and European Union—or run the risk of defaulting on their debts.

In Spain, thousands of people turned out in late May to protest the country's 21 percent unemployment rate.

They also demonstrated against government corruption and austerity measures to reign in the country's debt. Hundreds of people set up tents in a Madrid square and spent a week there in protest.

Portugal saw massive strikes and protests last March in response to government spending cuts. At least 200,000 people gathered in Lisbon.

The Philippines

Thousand of workers took to the streets throughout the country in May of this year to march for higher pay. They demanded better wages in light of rising inflation, including higher oil prices.

They called on the government of President Benigno Aquino III to do more to help protect jobs.

In reaction, the government held job fairs as hundreds of workers have been laid off as the economy slumps. Workers say that effort has fallen far short of what they want.


Nearly 1,000 cab drivers in eastern China blocked traffic and protested on Aug. 1 over rising fuel costs. It was the latest sign of discontent about the country's surging inflation.

Inflation is hitting China hard, with food prices recently increasing 12 percent. Many Chinese officials are reported concerned that inflation, along with rising property prices, could lead to even more unrest.

This past June, thousands of workers battled for three days with police in the capital city of the southern Chinese province of Guangdong. They were protesting declining living standards.

The recent protests can be traced back to February of this year, in what was an attempt to copy the Arab Spring uprising. That's when calls through Chinese social networks were sent out for an uprising in several local cities.

However, reports say the turnout was small in comparison to the enormous police presence and there were more clashes between journalists and officials than demonstrators.


In another legacy from the Arab Spring, protests and riots in Syria against the rule of President Bashar al-Assad have been going on for five months.

Reports say at least 1,600 people have been killed by government forces.

The demonstrations are a combination of calls for economic as well as political changes. Assad's government has promised a package of reforms including higher wages, letting political parties exist, easing restrictions on the media, and a new anti-corruption drive. But so far, none of the measures has been set in place.

Last week Assad sent troops and tanks to quell the mostly Sunni Muslim city of Hama in central Syria, and the army launched a similar assault on Sunday against Deir al-Zor.

Syria has cracked down with deadly force on protests in the past. In 1982 then-president Hafez al Assad—the father of Bashar al-Assad—sent troops into the Syrian town of Hama, killing between 10,000 and 40,000 people.

Syria's Arab neighbors as well as the United States have called for Assad to step down. He's ruled Syria for the past 11 years after succeeding his father. Assad says he has no intention of giving up his post as president.****

4039  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2012 Presidential on: August 10, 2011, 02:06:07 PM
"The question in this race is, who will stand next to President Barack Obama a year from this fall with a limited government, pro-growth agenda and win the debate, the election and the mandate to turn this ship around."

And as more and more see "we" are on the "wrong track" such a candidate could win easily in a landslide and hopefully bring more legislatures with the same philosophy in for the *correction of our direction*.
4040  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Alan Simpson on: August 10, 2011, 01:34:32 PM
Alan Simpson who has been making the MSM rounds criticizing the Tea Party for not agreeing with him on what to do about the debt was one of the authors of the amnesty bill signed by Reagan that encouraged what we see today.  I note in Wikepedia below that employers were supposed to be responsible for insuring their hirees were legal which of course never happened.  And borders were never secured.  Yet this act in retrospect clearly sent the signal that the US was not serious about enforcing our immigration policies.  Now we have 5 to 10 times the number of illegals in the country:

****Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986

Colloquial name(s) Simpson–Mazzoli Act
Enacted by the 99th United States Congress
Public Law Pub.L. 99-603
Stat. 100 Stat. 3359
Legislative history
Introduced in the Senate as S. 1200 by Alan K. Simpson on May 23, 1985
Committee consideration by: Senate Judiciary, Senate Budget
Passed the Senate on September 19, 1985 (69–30)
Passed the House on October 9, 1986 (voice vote after incorporating H.R. 3810 , passed 230–166)
Reported by the joint conference committee on October 14, 1986; agreed to by the House on October 15, 1986 (238–173) and by the Senate on October 17, 1986 (63–24)
Signed into law by President Ronald Reagan on November 6, 1986
Major amendments
Relevant Supreme Court cases
The Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA), Pub.L. 99-603, 100 Stat. 3359, enacted November 6, 1986, also Simpson-Mazzoli Act, is an Act of Congress which reformed United States immigration law.

In brief the act:[1]

required employers to attest to their employees' immigration status.
made it illegal to knowingly hire or recruit unauthorized immigrants.
granted amnesty to certain seasonal agricultural illegal immigrants.
granted amnesty to illegal immigrants who entered the United States before January 1, 1982 and had resided there continuously.
Contents [hide]
1 Legislative background and description
2 Effect upon the labor market
3 See also
4 References
5 External links

[edit] Legislative background and description
 This section does not cite any references or sources. Please help improve this section by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (August 2010)

Romano L. Mazzoli was a Democratic representative from Kentucky and Alan K. Simpson was a Republican senator from Wyoming who chaired their respective immigration subcommittees in Congress. Their effort was assisted by the recommendations of the bipartisan Commission on Immigration Reform, chaired by Rev. Theodore Hesburgh, then President of the University of Notre Dame.

The law criminalized the act of knowingly hiring an illegal immigrant and established financial and other penalties for those employing illegal aliens under the theory that low prospects for employment would reduce illegal immigration. It introduced the I-9 form to ensure that all employees presented documentary proof of their legal eligibility to accept employment in the United States.

These sanctions would apply only to employers that had more than three employees and did not make a sufficient effort to determine the legal status of their workers.

The first Simpson-Mazzoli Bill was reported out of the House and Senate Judiciary Committees. The bill failed to be received by the House, but civil rights advocates were concerned over the potential for abuse and discrimination against Hispanics, growers' groups rallied for additional provisions for foreign labor, and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce persistently opposed sanctions against employers.

The second Simpson-Mazzoli Bill finally passed both houses in 1985, but it came apart in the conference committee over the issue of cost. The year marked an important turning point for the reform effort. Employer opposition to employer sanctions began to subside, partly because of the "affirmative defense" clause in the law that explicitly released employers from any obligation to check the authenticity of workers' documents.

Also, agricultural employers shifted their focus from opposition to employer sanctions to a concerted campaign to secure alternative sources of foreign labor. As opposition to employer sanctions waned and growers' lobbying efforts for extensive temporary worker programs intensified, agricultural worker programs began to outrank employer sanctions component as the most controversial element of reform.

"The following year, Sen. Simpson reintroduced the bill that Congressional opponents were now calling 'The Monster from the Blue Lagoon' because of its eerie ability to rise from the dead. By September, this Senate version had already passed...."[2]

The act was signed into law by President Ronald Reagan. An estimated 3 million unauthorized immigrants received amnesty under the act. A May 26, 2006 New York Times article arrived at the figure 2.8 million: 1.7 million under a general amnesty, plus 90% of the 1.3 million that applied under a special program for agricultural workers.[1]

[edit] Effect upon the labor market
According to one study, the IRCA caused some employers to discriminate against workers who appeared foreign, resulting in a small reduction in overall Hispanic employment. There is no statistical evidence that a reduction in employment correlated to unemployment in the economy as a whole or was separate from the general unemployment population statistics.[3] Another study stated that if hired, wages were being lowered to compensate employers for the perceived risk of hiring foreigners.[4]

The hiring process also changed as employers turned to indirect hiring through subcontractors. "Under a subcontracting agreement, a U.S. citizen or resident alien contractually agrees with an employer to provide a specific number of workers for a certain period of time to undertake a defined task at a fixed rate of pay per worker".[4] "By using a subcontractor the firm is not held liable since the workers are not employees. The use of a subcontractor decreases a worker's wages since a portion is kept by the subcontractor. This indirect hiring is imposed on everyone regardless of legality".[4]

4041  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues on: August 10, 2011, 01:26:44 PM
I was talking to my 80 yr old aunt who is second generation American. 

I was asking her didn't my grandfather talk much about his home country?

Her response was absolutely not.  He learned English as soon as he could and he never talked about his previous country of origin.

He wanted to be an American as soon as possible and blend right in.

My Aunt who is liberal agreed right away when I pointed out the immigrants of today are not like those of past generations.

Now the first words of English many learn are medicaid, food stamps, fake ID, and all the rest.

It is probably too late.
4042  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / The Way Forward for the American Creed;almost too late on: August 10, 2011, 01:21:57 PM
I think this event in Wisconsin highlights how close we are to the edge of socialist/fascist revolution in the US.  As discussed by Mark Stein and Mark Levin last night the big question is do Americans want an America like we have enjoyed for 200 years or do they want an America that is a socialist or fascist like state?

That is the question.  That is the choice.  Can a Republican candidate make it clear that IS the choice and it must be made now.
Electing Brock again will seal the fate in (my opinion) the wrong direction.  With 50% not paying Fed income taxes, illegals coming in by the millions not because so much because they love traditional American ideals but they want our benefits, with so many other benefits paid for by the state to Americans, with children who seem to have learned that it is the governments responsibility to take care of them, we are at the cross roads.  The perilous closeness of the divide seems to be highlighted with this:   

****Republicans hold off Dems in recalls, win enough seats to keep majority in Senate
Story Discussion More (2) Font Size: Default font size Larger font size Republicans hold off Dems in recalls, win enough seats to keep majority in Senate
CLAY BARBOUR and MARY SPICUZZA | Wisconsin State Journal | Loading… | Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 9:00 am

STEVE APPS – State Journal
Democratic supporters Yvonne Ziegler, of DeForest, and Lynn Nicklas and Norma Furger, both of Lodi, react to news of Republican gains in Tuesday's recall elections while watching results on a live network broadcast on the Capitol Square. Democrats gained two seats, not enough to win back control of the state Senate, with a third still undecided.
Any incumbents defeated in Tuesday's recall elections will continue to perform their legislative duties until certificates of election are issued to their successors.

Results will be certified three days after the Government Accountability Board receives the last county canvass in each district. If GAB gets all canvasses in on Thursday, spokesman Reid Magney said, it could certify results next Tuesday.

Winners could take oath of office the next day.
After tens of millions of dollars spent by outside interest groups, dozens of attack ads and exhaustive get-out-the-vote efforts, Democrats on Tuesday fell short of their goal of taking control of the state Senate and stopping the agenda of Gov. Scott Walker.

Republicans won four of six recall races, meaning the party still holds a narrow 17-16 majority in the Senate — at least until next week, when Sens. Robert Wirch, D-Pleasant Prairie, and Jim Holperin, D-Conover face their own recall elections. A third Democrat, Sen. Dave Hansen, D-Green Bay, easily survived a recall attempt last month.

Sens. Robert Cowles, R-Green Bay, Sheila Harsdorf, R-River Falls, Luther Olsen, R-Ripon, and Alberta Darling, R-River Hills, successfully defended their seats Tuesday.

Challengers state Rep. Jennifer Shilling, D-La Crosse, and Jessica King unseated incumbent state Sens. Dan Kapanke, R-La Crosse, and Randy Hopper, R-Fond du Lac.

Going into Tuesday, Republicans controlled the body 19-14, so Democrats needed to win at least three seats and hold onto two more next week to take over.

"The revolution has not occurred," said UW-Milwaukee political science professor Mordecai Lee, a former Democratic lawmaker. "The proletariat did not take over the streets."

Tuesday's recalls were largely seen as a test of Republican Gov. Scott Walker, who has drawn national attention since unveiling his controversial plan to strip nearly all collective bargaining rights from most public workers. Proof of that was visible on election night as national news organizations broadcast from across the state and political pundits led their newscasts with result updates and discussed their ramifications on the nation's political landscape.

Republican senators were targeted for recall after backing Walker's plan. Democratic senators came under attack for leaving the state to delay a vote on the measure.

However, the focus of the recalls has since expanded, shifting away from the collective bargaining fight toward issues such as taxes and funding for public schools and seniors.

A couple thousand Democratic supporters gathered at the state Capitol Tuesday night, hopeful at first but deflated when it appeared they might fall short of the three victories they needed.

Still, some praised Democrats' modest gains.

"I think the fact that this election is going on right now is a victory in and of itself. We put them on the hot seat," said Randy Bryce, 46, of Caledonia, who came to the Capitol Tuesday with his wife and 4-year-old daughter. "I would have liked to have seen us run the table on them, but this is okay for now."

Several media reported Darling was waiting for Pasch to make a concession speech shortly before midnight, But Darling's victory allows Republicans to continue to control the Legislature and set the agenda.

"I don't think there is much of a moral victory in taking only two," UW-Madison political science professor Charles Franklin said. "This was all about taking command of the Senate."

Tuesday's unofficial results capped the most expensive elections in state history.

Cash flowing into the recalls already has approached $30 million, and total spending by third-party groups and candidates could top $40 million, election watchdogs say. That total would double spending on all 116 of last fall's state legislative races combined.

Outside interest groups have spent millions on both sides, from conservative organizations like Wisconsin Club for Growth, Wisconsin Family Action, and Citizens for a Strong America to pro-union and liberal groups like We Are Wisconsin, Progressive Change Campaign Committee, and Democracy for America.

Many view the races as a sign of whether the next Wisconsin politician facing recall will be Walker himself. The governor remained largely absent from any public appearances with the GOP senators targeted for recall.

Tony Spencer, a 36-year-old laid-off carpenter from Shorewood, voted for Darling's challenger, Democratic state Rep. Sandy Pasch.

"I'm in a private union, so they haven't necessarily come after me," Spencer said. "But everybody should have the right to be in a union. I came out to stop all the union-bashing stuff."

But John Gill, 45, of Menomonee Falls, voted for Darling and questioned the opposition's anti-GOP rhetoric, which went far beyond collective bargaining.

"This was all supposed to be about the workers' rights, so to speak. But that has not been brought up one time. It's all been misleading, the attack ads, things like that," Gill said. "The one reason they started this recall, they didn't bring up once."

— State Journal reporter Jeff Glaze and The Associated Press contributed to this report.*****

4043  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / "free" food on: August 09, 2011, 11:05:05 AM
College students getting food stamps?

How did we get to this point?  I never dreamed of expecting tax payers to pay for students food before.

From Kayla Neff who was receiving food stamps to buy food for her and her father:

"Students should be focusing on their education, not whether or not they'll be able to eat dinner or whether they can manage to find a job and balance it on top of their studies," Neff said in a Friday email interview from Mount Pleasant."

So how did we get to her next logical conclusion that her food should be paid for by taxpayers?   Who the heck is she and why should others pay for her Mcdonald's.  What is this?  How about a loan?  Why is the treasury a free bank in the minds of these people.  They should have this they should have that.  There is no end to this.

****Last Updated: August 08. 2011 6:22PM
30,000 college students kicked out of food aid program in Michigan
State's new eligibility rules to save $75M; more students got aid than thought
Paul Egan/ Detroit News Lansing Bureau
Lansing — Michigan has removed about 30,000 college students from its food stamp program — close to double the initial estimate — saving about $75 million a year, says Human Services Director Maura Corrigan.

Federal rules don't allow most college students to collect food stamps, but Michigan had created its own rules that made nearly all students eligible, said Brian Rooney, Corrigan's deputy director. As a result, the number of Michigan college students on this form of welfare made the state a national leader. For example, Michigan had 10 times the number of students on food stamps as either Illinois or California, Rooney said.

Cutting off the students is part of what Corrigan says is an effort to change the culture of the state's welfare department and slash tens of millions of dollars of waste, fraud and abuse.

"Maybe (students) could go get a part-time job — that's what I did," said Corrigan, a former justice of the Michigan Supreme Court who attended Detroit's Marygrove College and University of Detroit Mercy School of Law.

"We want to encourage people to be self-sufficient, not to be dependent on the government," she said in an interview with The Detroit News.

But critics say state funding has shrunk and tuition has skyrocketed since Corrigan attended college in the late '60s and early '70s. They cite Michigan's still-battered economy and say the suffering the cuts will create won't be apparent until after cash-strapped students return to campuses this fall.

Corrigan, appointed by Republican Gov. Rick Snyder in January to head the $6.9 billion Department of Human Services, has also ordered administrators to start looking at applicants' assets, not just their income. That move follows an uproar after it was revealed Leroy Fick of Auburn remained eligible for food stamps and continued using them after he won $2 million in the state lottery TV show "Make Me Rich!" in June 2010.

If cutting millionaires off food stamps is a no-brainer, some say cutting off most students is less clear cut.

Kayla Neff, a 19-year-old Spanish and computer science student at Central Michigan University who qualified for food stamps in September, said it's tough to find a job in Michigan, particularly for students with little experience.

Neff said she and her father share about $150 a month in grocery money from the program, which "made all the difference in the world," but her eligibility is now under review.

"Students should be focusing on their education, not whether or not they'll be able to eat dinner or whether they can manage to find a job and balance it on top of their studies," Neff said in a Friday email interview from Mount Pleasant.

CMU was singled out by Corrigan as having publicized students' eligibility for food stamps on the university's website. University spokesman Steven Smith said Friday he wanted to research the issue, but "I am confident no official CMU site would promote this kind of activity."

The number of students taken off food stamps was close to double the estimate of 10,000 to 18,000 before the policy change was implemented in April.

Under the federally funded program, college students generally aren't eligible, Rooney said. But Michigan had created an exception for those participating in a valid employment and training program. Employment training was defined as attending college, he said.

Corrigan said one large Michigan school, which she did not identify, had 3,500 students on the program.

Many see using food stamps while attending school as a scam, and former Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick described it in much that way in his new autobiography.

Kilpatrick, who was recently released from state prison after serving time for violating probation and awaits trial on federal corruption charges, revealed he used food stamps when he attended Florida A&M University in the late 1980s and early 1990s. At the time, his mother was a state representative and his father was a top Wayne County official.

"The food stamp game is an old hook-up in neighborhoods from Detroit to Tallahassee," Kilpatrick said in the book. "If you could get them, especially as a struggling college student, then you did."

Though still commonly known as food stamps, the state's Food Assistance Program now uses debit cards called Bridge Cards to provide assistance to eligible recipients.

Even after the recent removal of 30,000 college students from the food stamp program, close to 2 million Michigan residents — one in five — are on the program, Rooney said.

Not all college students have been kicked off food stamps. For instance, single moms who go to school can still be eligible, as can certain students who work at least 20 hours a week.

Still, critics say Corrigan's changes are too sweeping and each student's case should be examined on its merits.

Nate Smith-Tyge, director of the Michigan State University Student Food Bank, said the stereotypical profile of the middle-class freshman getting dropped off at the new dorm room by Mom and Dad no longer applies.

"A more nuanced approach would have been more humane," Smith-Tyge said. "This sort of carte blanche decision is going to adversely affect people who really needed it. At what cost does it eliminate some abuse?"

Corrigan also detailed steps she is taking to make sure big lottery winners can no longer get food stamps.

As part of its arrangement for federal funding, Michigan in 2000 opted to determine eligibility based only on income and not consider assets, partly because the program is easier to administer that way, Rooney said.

Starting Oct. 1, assets will also be considered in determining eligibility for new applicants, he said. The assets of existing food stamp recipients will also be examined as their cases are re-evaluated every six months.

"We're going to take a look at everyone in the system," he said.****
4044  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness on: August 09, 2011, 10:09:58 AM
One additional point.  These kinds of people are extraordinary liars.  They will keep lying even when everyone knows they are lying.  They will even know the game is up and everyone knows they are lying but will continue to lie.  Unfortunately there are many in the US who have a lot of skin in the game so he has a lot of people covering and lying right along with him.
4045  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness on: August 09, 2011, 10:07:28 AM
My psychoanalysis is that he is intelligent in certain respects but has a deficient personality.

He has no self insight.  He is unable to take real responsibility.

He blames others for his faults mistakes and errors.

He cannot get past this.

I believe one aspect of real intellegence is to be able to objectively evaluate oneself and one's beliefs.  He is unable.  He is deficient in this regard.  In this respect he is totally mentally retarded.

His triumphant con game no longer flies.  He is unable to change.  This is a hallmark of a personality disorder.  They are always right.
They love themselves beyond anything else.  It is all about him and his self love.

He can't see it any other way.

4046  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Wasserman Schultz; Brock is on golf course on: August 08, 2011, 05:20:05 PM
4047  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: US Economics, the stock market , and other investment/savings strategies on: August 08, 2011, 04:01:08 PM
Yes and that it was all due to the Tea Party that dared to hold firm against the expanding ponzi scheme.

If only they compromised instead.   rolleyes

If only increased taxes were included.   rolleyes

If only they didn't hold a gun to the heads of the "American people" who also refuse to face reality while the train goes off the edge into the grand canyon.   rolleyes
4048  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Israel, and its neighbors on: August 08, 2011, 03:22:26 PM
It seems legitimate to ask is it really in the US interest to defend Israel to the point of using military force?

Should US men and women be asked to die for Jews in Israel?

That said I don't understand why it seems the entire world is against Israel.

It must be the oil money behind this.

I just don't know.  What is so unreasonable about Jews wanting a secure homeland?

Just look any map at the pittance of the size of Israel to the land mass controlled by Muslims.

Clearly the world is following the lead of Obama who has shifted the US position in the Middle East.

4049  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Buy when it becomes clear Repubs are getting power back on: August 08, 2011, 03:16:01 PM
"As C&T has been capped and it became clear that the Reps/Tea Party were going to take the house and perhaps the Senate, things improved"

In my opinion (out of the 7 billion that exist on Earth) I would suggest the market will not really recover till the Repubs get the WH back and a majority in the Senate - although a fillibuster proof is necessary with the Dems who have proven they can/will block everything in sight.

4050  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / person who won million dollar lottery 4 times on: August 08, 2011, 10:14:36 AM
I never thought of there being an algorithim.  I always thought it was random.  I guess the scratch offs are different from the lotto numbers?:

****'Lucky' woman who won lottery four times outed as Stanford University statistics PhD
By Rachel Quigley

Last updated at 9:06 PM on 7th August 2011

She was called the luckiest woman in the world.
But now that luck is being called into question by some who think that winning the lottery four times is more than just a coincidental spell of good fortune.
Joan R. Ginther, 63, from Texas, won multiple million dollar payouts each time.
 Luck?: Ms Ginther won four lots of vast sums on lottery scratch cards, half of which were bought at the same mini mart
First, she won $5.4 million, then a decade later, she won $2 million, then two years later $3 million and finally, in the spring of 2008, she hit a $10 million jackpot.
The odds of this has been calculated at one in eighteen septillion and luck like this could only come once every quadrillion years.
Harper's reporter Nathanial Rich recently wrote an article about Ms Ginther, which questioned the validity of this 'luck' with which she attributes her multiple lottery wins to.
First, he points out, Ms Ginther is a former math professor with a PhD from Stanford University specialising in statistics.
A professor at the Institute for the Study of Gambling & Commercial Gaming at the University of Nevada, Reno, told Mr Rich: 'When something this unlikely happens in a casino, you arrest ‘em first and ask questions later.'
 Money bags: First, Ms Ginther won $5.4 million, then a decade later, she won $2 million, then two years later $3 million and finally, in the spring of 2008, she hit a $10 million jackpot
Although Ms Ginther now lives in Las Vegas, she won all four of her lotteries in Texas.
Three of her wins, all in two-year intervals, were by scratch-off tickets bought at the same mini mart in the town of Bishop.

Mr Rich proceeds to detail the myriad ways in which Ms Ginther could have gamed the system - including the fact that she may have figured out the algorithm that determines where a winner is placed in each run of scratch-off tickets.

He believes that after Ms Ginther figured out the algorithm, it wouldn’t be too difficult to then determine where the tickets would be shipped, as the shipping schedule is apparently fixed, and there were a few sources she could have found it out from.

According to Forbes, the residents of Bishop, Texas, seem to believe God was behind it all.

The Texas Lottery Commission told Mr Rich that Ms Ginther must have been 'born under a lucky star', and that they don’t suspect foul play.****
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