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51  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Free Speech vs. Islamic Fascism (formerly Buy DANISH!!!) on: July 21, 2015, 11:37:34 AM
This is exactly why there IS something refreshing about Trump.   This endless shaming of enemies of the establishment to submission.

Trump does go too far.  OTOH is Jeb and the others who cave every chance they get.

No one stands up to the left from our party.

52  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / But Rush is also right on: July 21, 2015, 09:41:22 AM
I heard part of this rant from Rush yesterday while driving to an office.   He does make an excellent true point.  It IS refreshing to see a public figure tell the "establishment" to take a hike.

Though I would not have dishonored McCain's service to us all, he has done absolutely nothing as a politician to advance conservatism (as per Levin) who would of course many other so called Republicans.  I agree with Rush on this aspect of his points.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2015/07/20/trump_teachable_moment_how_come_liberals_can_savage_mccain_s_service
53  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Nature on: July 20, 2015, 08:25:21 AM
In the movie 'Eight Below' leopard seals had "starring" roles.
54  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Issues in the American Creed (Constitutional Law and related matters) on: July 20, 2015, 08:23:12 AM

Justice Alito: Judicial Restraint Amidst The Court's 'Postmodern' Activism


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The liberals on the Supreme Court could not be any more obviously political than this.  Just like the DNC they share talking points and come out in synchrony:

****Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg made news recently, when she said—bragged, it seemed—that she and her fellow liberals on the Court were going out of their way to stifle their individual voices in high-profile cases. When the liberals find themselves on the losing side of a case, she explained, they strive to sign a single dissenting opinion instead of each justice writing his or her own.

"If you want to make sure you're read, you do it together, and you do it short," she told NPR's Nina Totenberg, a longtime friend. When Totenberg asked Ginsburg why the Court's conservatives don't take a single approach, Ginsburg quipped, "next term I think you'll see some of my colleagues will be more disciplined."

Maybe the conservative justices would score more political points with such an approach. But our country would be all the worse off for it. For as things currently stand, the Court's conservative or libertarian justices are writing in such distinct voices—with such distinct principles, presumptions, and prudential judgments—that our nation's constitutional debates hardly suffer from hearing each of the conservative and libertarian justices speaking for themselves as much as possible. We all benefit from them. ****
55  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / A data base world - perfect for the left! on: July 19, 2015, 02:25:33 PM
Some thoughts from the top of my head:

Gathering data and mining it with statistics and formulas and conclusions and then formulating policy from that is a perfect storm against the right.

In medicine the new coding formula with tens of thousands of codes trying to categorize every health ailment into a code that can be translated into a set of ones and zeros is making our heads spin in medicine. 

Now we see on Drudge bamster and his liberal policy makers from the Ivy's along with his fascist friends in tech doing the same with "racial" profiling.

The legal system is also a target.

This explosion of data is perfect for liberals to use in ways that they will insist is for social justice and equality.  They are the new Kings, the new Emporers, the new Queens, the new despots.

Freedom is defined as that which is permissable by THEM.

Not by our Constitution.

Data is easy to interpret in many different ways and the opportunity for nefarious misuse much greater but subtle and under the radar  that makes this very dangerous.

56  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / George Will - intesting Supreme Court case on: July 18, 2015, 10:30:50 AM
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/will071115.php3
57  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: July 18, 2015, 08:18:20 AM
The thought of another year and half of this stuff and maybe 9 and a half - with our side having to read all this stuff, and the liberals just ignoring it - it makes one want to go to a remote mountain in Montana and cut oneself off from the news.

If only we had a brilliant candidate that could articulate the likes of Mark Levin with the temperament of a Bobby Jindal or Jeb Bush or Santorum;  I really think Hillary would lose.

But......I just don't know if any of the candidates will rise to the occasion. 
58  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Way Forward for the American Creed on: July 18, 2015, 08:13:58 AM
Tell that to Bezos, Page, Zuckerberg, Brin, and Goldman Sachs CEO.
59  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Leprosy on: July 16, 2015, 07:20:15 PM
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/05/when-the-last-patient-dies/394163/
60  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iran on: July 16, 2015, 05:47:56 PM
Does anyone REALLY think for one second Schumer won't vote the party Obama line???  If he did it wouldn't be until he was sure they have enough votes to keep the Senate from getting to 67 anyway.  The Dems stick together like a Roman phalynx:

Jul 16, 5:41 PM EDT

Sen. Schumer squeezed on Obama's Iran nuclear deal

By ERICA WERNER
Associated Press
   
WASHINGTON (AP) -- No sooner had President Barack Obama announced a nuclear deal with Iran than Sen. Chuck Schumer issued a statement pledging to go through it with a fine-tooth comb, talk with administration officials, listen to experts on all sides and carefully study it.

Everything, that is, except provide even a whisper of a hint of how he will vote on it.

It's a political straddle that reflects the 64-year-old New York senator's competing roles as next-in-line Senate Democratic leader, unquestioned congressional ally of Israel, leading fundraiser and strategist for his party, and lawmaker from a state that is home to more than a million-and-a-half Jews.

"Sen. Schumer is going to be instrumental in helping to determine where this lands," said Rep. Steve Israel, a fellow Jewish Democratic lawmaker from New York who's been an outspoken skeptic on the deal. As the White House lobbies senators to support the pact, "He's going to have a major role in determining where they end up."

Indeed, with the leaders of Israel and their supporters in the U.S. strongly opposed to the accord, observers on and off Capitol Hill say that the only chance congressional opponents have is if they get Schumer in their corner.

Sometime in the fall, Congress will vote on whether to approve or disapprove of the Iran deal. If enough hawkish Democrats join Republicans and the disapprove side prevails, Obama would veto the legislation.

At that point the focus would turn to whether Congress could override Obama's veto, which takes a two-thirds vote in both the House and Senate. Chances of that are slim, but with Schumer on their side opponents might stand a chance.

"There is no way a veto would be overridden without Sen. Schumer," said Aaron Keyak, a consultant to several Jewish groups and former Democratic congressional aide. "Finding 67 votes to override a presidential veto is a very high threshold and there is no way to get to that number without Sen. Schumer."

That helps explain the intense pressures on Schumer and a handful of other key senators in a debate that pro-Israel groups have made clear will be their top focus, bar none, in the months to come.

With the deal just a few days old, Schumer is already being targeted in advertising, news releases and social media from both sides.

The Emergency Committee for Israel announced an ad campaign on New York City cable television encouraging New Yorkers to "Call Sen. Schumer and tell him he must stand firm" on his insistence that the deal allow nuclear inspections anytime and anywhere, which opponents contend it does not. Another group, Secure America Now, has been urging supporters over Twitter to call Schumer and tell him to oppose the deal.

On the opposite side, the progressive group Credo issued a statement warning that "Democrats who sabotage the Iran deal will face consequences," and listed Schumer, who likely will win re-election next year, as a top target. Adding to the pressure, the Democrats' likely presidential nominee, Hillary Rodham Clinton, has cautiously embraced the deal.

At the middle of the storm, the famously media-friendly Schumer has gone uncharacteristically quiet. Questioned at an unrelated news conference this week, he repeated his initial written statement nearly word for word.

"I will sit down, I will read the agreement thoroughly, and then I'm going to speak with officials, administration officials, people all over, on all different sides," Schumer said. "This is a decision that shouldn't be made lightly, and I am going to just study this agreement and talk to people before I do anything else."

Congressional allies say Schumer seems genuinely torn.

"He's obviously got pressures and I assume he's going to do the right thing," said Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., who is undecided and facing similar pressures. "There are very severe upsides and very severe downsides."

Obama argues the deal closes off Iran's pathway to a nuclear bomb for the next decade, and has challenged opponents to come up with an alternative. The liberal Jewish group J Street is backing the deal, and the group's vice president of government affairs, Dylan Williams, said Schumer risks angering progressive voters if he breaks with the White House.

"This deal is and will continue to be supported by an overwhelming majority of Sen. Schumer's Democratic base and if there is a political consideration here that would be the overriding one," Williams said.

But the powerful pro-Israel lobby American Israel Public Affairs Committee is vehemently opposed to the deal, which Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is denouncing all over U.S. media as undermining the security of Israel and the region.

Steven J. Rosen, a former longtime senior official with the group, said that backing the deal could hurt Schumer with the pro-Israel community - and with donors in New York.

"I think he wants to be seen as one of Israel's most important friends in the United States. A bad vote here could have lasting damage on his standing in that regard," Rosen said. "The White House has put him in a very, very tough position here."

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61  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: US Foreign Policy on: July 16, 2015, 02:41:35 PM
"we were assured by someone with CREDENTIALS that Iran is a rational actor"

As noted in a recent post of an article here,  *Neither* side of the deal can be trusted.
62  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / anti semite got his way on: July 14, 2015, 08:41:09 AM
And the Republicans let him:

http://time.com/3956853/iran-michael-oren-israel/
63  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: July 10, 2015, 09:26:58 AM
I liked Mark Levin's line:

"she should be in an orange jumpsuit not a pants suit".

Amazing.  And to here the wildly liberal Carl Bernstein make excuses for her as though her long list of crimes are not worse than Nixon's. 

Watching the Democrats point fingers at everyone else on cable concerning who is to blame for the illegal killing the girl in San Francisco I could not recall one single Democrat EVER take responsibility for any crime or screw up ever.   Rarely they may say they take responsibility but then continue on as though nothing ever happened. 

Just disgusting.
64  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Islam in America on: July 09, 2015, 01:16:58 PM
I find it hard to believe even this guy would be executed in Massachusetts.
65  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of the left on: July 08, 2015, 10:12:44 AM
"The whole running out of other people's money thing doesn't look like much fun"

No biggie.  Just print more.  Unlike the Greeks we control our money supply.  Just ask the libs.

They tell us were safe  rolleyes

Besides what would the poor do?Huh  They would scream.

How do we explain they make it all worse not better?
66  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: July 08, 2015, 10:06:57 AM
So 6 out of 10 polled do not think her trustworthy.  The 4 out of 10 who call her trustworthy are obviously the die hard Democrats who don't and won't care about her honesty.  If she were a Republican these same 4 out of 10 would call her dishonest and would be calling for accountability.   

Of the 6 who think she is dishonest 2 of those will vote for her in a heartbeat anyway, if she tugs at their identities and pocketbooks.



67  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Gov. Jeb Bush on: July 02, 2015, 06:44:46 PM
Doug,

Your a Bush fan?   cry
68  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Donald Trump on: July 02, 2015, 06:43:56 PM
Wouldn't it have been far greater if Trump spouted off all these facts and statistics instead of simply categorizing all illegals as Mexicans and all Mexicans as drug dealers and rapists?

And only sort of grudgingly say that I guess some Mexicans are good people.  And later tell us he loves Mexico and Mexicans?

Just think of the shot across the bow that would have been. 
69  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Anti-semitism & Jews on: July 02, 2015, 06:40:55 PM
Objectivist,

Thanks for that post by Daniel Greenfield.  I like the correlation to religious attendance and Jewish liberalism.
Yet I don't know that this correlation totally explains the (IMHO crazy) fervor liberal Jews elevate the Democrat party agenda to the 10 Commandments,  and perhaps Mr. Greenfield would agree with me that that is only part of the equation. 

Jews were Democrats from day one in this country even when they were attending synagogue at higher rates.  And prior to that they were disproportionately socialists in Europe were they migrated from.   

I would also add my theory about the narcissism implicit among liberal Jews who view themselves as superior to others precisely because they hold their view of social justice as a great virtue.   They are educated so they believe they are too smart for ancient religious theories and they are smart enough to *see past* ancient cultures.  This use of the term 'tribalism' to describe all differences amongst peoples is an example.  The concepts of country, of ethnicity, of nationalism, religion, social or economic class  is all just a bunch of medieval nonsense that evolved before science showed we are nothing more than specks in a vast universe.   They see beyond this.  It is science that should determine our existence.   Science above all that should determine rules, regulations, discourse, and social justice.

Liberal Jews are therefore better than those who 'cling' to such ancient concepts.  They are more virtuous than others who fail to feel the pain of all the oppressed of the world.  People who are not equally virtuous by their definition are just a bunch of primitive and ignorant people. 
 
"People with Jewish last names for whom being Jewish is leftist politics and a joke"
 
Yes, The Democrat party is their new religion.  It is ironic they cannot see they are even more intolerant, tyrannical, and enslaving by forcing everyone to agree with their view of the world.  Those that don't like the world and their lives dominated by central socialist think tanks, like the Republican party, are the new Nazis.

"When religion leaves, other things replace it instead. The Jewish left is the hole left by the absence of Judaism and any meaningful Jewish historical, national and cultural identity."

Yes.  And I don't think they even identify as Americans anymore.  America is now a racist, too white, too large a gap between the rich and poor, too imperialistic.   
 
70  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Donald Trump on: July 01, 2015, 03:26:36 PM
His points about Mexico are not wrong but made very crassly.  If only he were more careful about singling out and categorizing Mexicans the way he did he might score more points.   
71  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: July 01, 2015, 03:23:43 PM
"Speaking of MCAT and Medical Schools limiting the supply of doctors, when will the cartel get opened up?"

I am not aware that the supply of doctors is limited.  What cartel?  One just needs good grades to get in.

Probably half of doctors now are trained in foreign countries.

Still not enough?

72  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: July 01, 2015, 12:01:21 PM
"Chris Christy says we need more compromise.  Speaking of Mark Levin, I heard his reaction to Christy:  Compromise isn't a principle.  Compromise isn't a vision.  Compromise on what?  With whom?  Compromise is what we do now; it's what got us where we are."

Exactly.  Christie totally misses the point.   So does Jeb.   AS we've noted for some time there simply is NO compromise from the left.  Every time we reach something called a compromise the very next day the libs are pushing for more.   There is no end.  Remember the end game is vanquish the world of religion, and country.  One world government with the central planners controlling everything.  THAT is their dream.  THEIR end game.  They will not cease till this is achieved - ever.

So I don't know what the pretend conservatives are talking about with compromise.

Someone who called into Levin's show last night  quoted Gen Patton as saying the way to win is to get the other side to compromise not for us to do it.

Most of the present Republicans are interested in these above points.  They just seem to want power and money.

Except for a few like Jeff Sessions and other real conservatives.


73  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: July 01, 2015, 09:30:02 AM
"People will do anything to remain politically correct, even if it means losing their rear end... "

The internet has really been a boom for the Left.   With immediate excoriating, shaming, marginalizing, and ridiculing of anyone who opposes their world view.  .
It seems to work.  Who wants their face going around the world being shamed

Couldn't have come at a worse time for America.

The Right cannot compete.  Just can't.

Even Fox is in retreat.    I didn't hear much comment at all about the recent SCOTUS decisions.  Almost like they ignored them.

Must be hoping for JEB.  Appease appease appease while the LEFT keeps moving forward with their shoulders in driving us back with zero thoughts of retreat.

74  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Gender, Gay, Lesbian on: July 01, 2015, 09:11:06 AM
""It's all about love", it says in our local paper.  No.  Love was already legal.  It's all about benefits."

I suspect that is why many get married literally the day it becomes legal.  Start the process to get the checks or write the deductions.  Not about "LUV".

Nothing wrong with that as everyone else would do the same thing.

I still think it not a good idea for the State to sanction gay marriage.  And I have larger problem with male gays using surrogates to have children or female gays using sperm donors to have children, or gay adoptions unless in extenuating circumstances.

And I very strongly suspect MOST people agree with me.   I don't believe the veracity of polls that purportedly show a MAJORITY of Americans think gay marriage or adoption or having children is ok.  I just don't believe it.  I think it is the herd mentality and fear of being crucified as insensitive or a homophobe that makes people cover up their true feelings.   
75  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Gov. Bobby Jindal on: June 30, 2015, 12:16:47 PM
"The only negative was I thought he pandered a bit on Christian themes"

I think so too.   On one hand he talks we are all Americans (which I like) but then goes off on Christianity a bit too much IMHO.  I'll have to email my nephew.  Of course my opinion means mountains.  wink   cheesy
76  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: June 30, 2015, 12:13:01 PM
"attract a new type of student"  shocked

"Test takers will now have to define terms like "institutional racism" and "social constructionism,"  shocked

Political correctness has no bounds:

****Medical School Hopefuls Grapple With Overhauled Entrance Exam
JUNE 29, 2015 3:50 PM ET

It's T minus four days until exam day, and Travis Driscoll is practically living at his desk.

"Each day, I'm easily here for five hours," he says. "I haven't done much of anything else but studying for the last two months."

Driscoll is one of 13,000 medical school applicants across the U.S. taking the new Medical College Admissions Test, or MCAT. He's got stacks of science books on his desk to help him prepare and a rainbow of biochemistry charts pasted to the walls: glycolysis, citric acid cycle, electron transport chain, mitosis, meiosis and DNA replication.

He also has a thick prep book on psychology and sociology — new ground for this year's MCAT takers.

The test has been thoroughly revamped and is now three hours longer. It takes 7 1/2 hours to complete, including breaks, and covers four new subjects, including a combined section on psychology and sociology that account for a quarter of the overall score.

Dr. David Muller, dean of medical education at Mount Sinai, believes that including in each medical school class some students who have a strong background in the humanities makes traditional science students better doctors, too.
SHOTS - HEALTH NEWS
A Top Medical School Revamps Requirements To Lure English Majors
Test takers will now have to define terms like "institutional racism" and "social constructionism," and answer applied questions about how race and class affect health.

Driscoll, who works in a San Francisco theater, focused on biomedical engineering in college. So for him, the new psychology/sociology section is the one he's most nervous about.

"It's at the end of the test, which makes it more difficult because you're pretty tired by then," he says. "And it's the thing I had the least experience with."

Bringing Test Up To Date

The Association of American Medical Colleges, which administers the MCAT, wants to make sure the doctors of tomorrow are better prepared to care for an increasingly diverse patient population in a rapidly changing health care system. Administrators say the exam changes are necessary to bring it up to date with how medicine is practiced, and with all the scientific discoveries that have been made since the test was last revised, more than 20 years ago.

Research on genetics and the social factors that affect health, in particular, have advanced significantly.

"Whether or not someone becomes ill has a lot to do with the society in which they live," says Catherine Lucey, vice dean of education at University of California, San Francisco School of Medicine and a member of the committee that will assess the new MCAT.

For example, she says, we now know a lot more about what happens to children who are exposed to violence before they turn 5.

"If they live in a violent neighborhood, if they hear gunshots all the time, if they themselves are the victims of interpersonal violence or child abuse," Lucey says, "they are much more likely to develop diabetes, high blood pressure, obesity, and many other chronic conditions, because of their social environment."

How those conditions are treated has also evolved. Doctors know how to treat acute infection now. But managing chronic disease has become a much bigger part of medical care, and doctors need to develop different skills and a different kind of relationship with the patient. Doctors need to build trust, Lucey says, to understand how patients think and make decisions, in order to convince them to exercise more and change their diet.

"My ability as a physician to affect that patient's health is not only dependent on medical knowledge, in terms of what drug should I give this individual, but on my ability to support this patient in the decisions they're making on a daily basis," she says.

Attracting A New Type Of Students

While the test prep industry adapted quickly to the new MCAT, enrollment in prep courses at the Princeton Review and Kaplan is only starting to pick up.

The real rush was last fall, when students flocked to take the old test, says Krissi Taylor Leslie, tutoring director at the Princeton Review in Northern California.

There was a recognition among students "that was my chance at the 'easier' test and now I'm up against this beast," Leslie says.

She says the new social sciences section is already attracting a different kind of student to consider med school.

"It entices certain students to come in and consider this test when they might not have otherwise," she says. "For instance, an increase in the number of English majors, of psychology majors."

And philosophy majors, like Ari Fischer. He started thinking about a career in medicine the summer after his junior year, when his grandfather was diagnosed with cancer.

"And that's when I was first shown, hands on, what physicians do every day," he says.

He started taking medical ethics classes — one was called "Life and Death" — where he read works about immortality, the meaning of death and the meaning of life in the face of death.

Fischer says he can imagine drawing on this knowledge one day if he has a patient facing tough end-of-life decisions.

"There's always a scientific view, then there's the theological views, or philosophical views. Knowing what other disciplines believe is going on at the same time, I think that could really help me in a daily practice of medicine," Fischer says. "What a cool way to take my degree in philosophy and turn it into a helpful, practical skill."

Fischer took the MCAT on the first testing date for the new exam in April, and just got his full score back on Tuesday. He did best on the social sciences section and the verbal, analytic reasoning. Overall, he landed in the 87th percentile.

"Perhaps Harvard will think I'm lacking in my MCAT score," he says. "For myself, I did well enough."

Altogether, he's applying to 38 schools. He says he's willing to go anywhere that will take a humanities major like him.

"All I've ever wanted out of the MCAT really is a score that's good enough to not get me kicked out of the pile when it comes to admissions decisions," he says. "Any school that gives me a shot, I'm going to be thrilled."**
77  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of the left on: June 30, 2015, 10:21:14 AM
"As The Atlantic notes, if a debt situation got particularly bad in the US, America could technically print its own money to pay back its debt, since it owes money in a currency that it controls. This would increase inflation and weaken confidence in the dollar, but wouldn't spell doom for the US economy. *

Is this author serious???   What does he think 18 trillion in debt is???

Bobby - my top choice at this time.

*****And now we have our first presidential candidate warning about Greece happening in America ...
Business Insider By Maxwell Tani
17 hours ago

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(AP/Jim Cole) Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R).

Louisiana Gov. and presidential candidate Bobby Jindal (R) believes that the US is headed down the path to a Greek-style financial disaster.
“Greece will happen here if we do not change course. Anyone who disagrees with this is a ‘math denier,'" Jindal said in a statement on Monday.

The governor's comments come as Greece is set to default on its debt, which sent stocks plummeting and threatened Greece's status in the Eurozone.

Jindal said that President Barack Obama's spending record is putting the US on a path to financial instability, and that a 2016 victory for Hillary Clinton would virtually ensure a crisis.

“This is the American future if we continue going down the road that President Obama has us on, and that Hillary Clinton wants to continue and even accelerate," Jindal said.

“Greece is now coming to the pot of gold that awaits at the end of the socialist rainbow, and Hillary Clinton pledges to take America further down the road to socialism," Jindal said.

Jindal's argument is similar to the argument that former Massachusetts Gov. and Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney (R) made in 2012 when it became apparent that Greece needed another bailout to manage its debts.

But though Romney and now Jindal appear to be making a point about excessive government spending and debt, the comparison is flawed.

That's because US debt and Greek debt are nothing alike.

Greece owes money to its creditors in a currency that it does not control. The International Monetary Fund, the European Commission, and the European Central Bank have bailed out Greece several times and set the terms for how Greece pays back its debt. Greece has no way to pay back its debt other than to accept austerity measures imposed by these three groups.

In contrast, the US is has a currency it controls and risks no debt default. And its debt is denominated in dollars.

As The Atlantic notes, if a debt situation got particularly bad in the US, America could technically print its own money to pay back its debt, since it owes money in a currency that it controls. This would increase inflation and weaken confidence in the dollar, but wouldn't spell doom for the US economy.

Myles Udland contributed to this report.
78  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / overtime populism on: June 30, 2015, 08:48:49 AM
I never understood the concept that overtime pay should be 1.5 times the usual rate.  With regards to this I don't understand how one can open the floodgates to illegals stifling wages than turn around and expect this.  All politics of course.   OTOH companies certainly do abuse employees frequently but this is not the answer IMO:

More overtime on the way? Obama proposes broader coverage
More overtime on the way? Obama prepares to make more workers eligible for time-and-a-half pay
Associated Press By Christopher s. Rugaber, AP Economics Writer
1 hour ago
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 More overtime on the way? Obama proposes broader coverage

In this June 26, 2015, photo, President Barack Obama speaks in the Rose Garden of the White House in Washington. The Obama administration will propose requiring overtime pay for workers who earn nearly $1,000 per week, three individuals familiar with the plan said Monday, June 29. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)

WASHINGTON (AP) -- They're called managers, and they sometimes work grueling schedules at fast food chains and retail stores. But with no overtime eligibility, their pay may be lower per hour than many workers they supervise.

With those employees in mind, the Obama administration is proposing making up to 5 million more people eligible for overtime — its latest effort to boost pay for lower-income workers. These workers would benefit from rules requiring businesses to pay eligible employees 1½ times their regular pay for any work beyond 40 hours a week.

"We've got to keep making sure hard work is rewarded," President Barack Obama wrote in an op-ed published Monday in The Huffington Post. "That's how America should do business. In this country, a hard day's work deserves a fair day's pay."

Employers can now often get around the rules: Any salaried employee who's paid more than $455 a week — or $23,660 a year — can be called a "manager," given limited supervisory duties and made ineligible for overtime.

Yet that would put a family of four in poverty territory. Obama says that the level is too low and undercuts the intent of the overtime law. The threshold was last updated in 2004 and has been eroded by inflation.

The long-awaited overtime rule from the Labor Department would more than double the threshold at which employers can avoid paying overtime, to $970 a week by next year. That would mean salaried employees earning less than $50,440 a year would be assured overtime if they work more than 40 hours per week.

To keep up with future inflation and wage growth, the proposal will peg the salary threshold at the 40th percentile of income. The White House said 56 percent of those who would benefit in the first year are women, and 53 percent have a college degree.

With the higher threshold, many more Americans — from fast food and retail supervisors to bank branch managers and insurance claims adjusters — would become eligible for overtime. Other changes the administration may propose could lead more white-collar workers to claim overtime.

A threshold of $984 a week would cover 15 million people, according to the liberal Economic Policy Institute. In 1975, overtime rules covered 65 percent of salaried workers. Today, it's just 12 percent.

The beneficiaries would be people like Brittany Swa, 30, a former manager of a Chipotle restaurant in Denver. As a management trainee, she started as an entry-level crew member in March 2010. After several months she began working as an "apprentice," which required a minimum 50-hour work week.

Yet her duties changed little. She had a key to the shop and could make bank deposits, but otherwise spent nearly all her time preparing orders and working the cash register. She frequently worked 60 hours a week but didn't get overtime because she earned $36,000.

The grueling hours continued after she was promoted to store manager in October 2010. She left two years later, and now processes workers' compensation claims at Travelers. She makes $60,000 a year, "which is surprising, since I only work 40 hours a week," she says.

Swa has joined a class-action lawsuit against Chipotle, which charges that apprentices shouldn't be classified as managers exempt from overtime. A spokesman for Chipotle declined to comment on the case.

Dawn Hughey, a former store manager for Dollar General in Flint, Michigan, would have also benefited from a higher overtime threshold. Hughey worked 60 to 80 hours a week for about two years before being fired in 2011. She was paid $34,700.

"I missed a lot of family functions working like that," Hughey said. "It was just expected if you were a store manager."

She made about $45,000 a year as an hourly worker in a previous job at a Rite Aid in California, where she typically worked 48 hours a week and received overtime.

The White House's proposed changes, which will be open for public comment and could take months to finalize, can be enacted through regulation without approval by the Republican-led Congress. They set up a populist economic argument that Democrats have already been embracing in the run-up to the 2016 presidential election. Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, who is challenging Hillary Rodham Clinton for the Democratic nomination, said the proposal means businesses would no longer be able to shirk their responsibility to pay fair wages.

"This long overdue change in overtime rules is a step in the right direction and good news for workers," Sanders said.

Yet the proposals won't necessarily produce a big raise for people like Swa and Hughey. The National Retail Federation, a business group, says its members would probably respond by converting many salaried workers to hourly status, which could cost them benefits such as paid vacation. Other salaried workers would have their hours cut and wouldn't receive higher pay.

Businesses might hire additional workers to avoid paying overtime or extend the hours they give part-timers. Yet supporters of extending overtime coverage say they would welcome those changes.

"It's a job creation measure," said Daniel Hamermesh, an economist at the University of Texas, Austin. "Employers will substitute workers for hours, when the hours get more expensive."

The administration's proposal may make other changes. Right now, employees who earn more than the salary threshold can still receive overtime — unless they have managerial duties or are professionals with some discretion over their work and hours.

That exemption, however, is granted mainly at an employer's discretion. If a company says an employee's primary duty is, for example, supervising others, the employer can disqualify that person from overtime.

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Associated Press writers Josh Lederman and Jim Kuhnhenn contributed to this report.
79  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: June 30, 2015, 08:36:34 AM
DDF posts, "Sometimes, since having moved here to Mexico, learning everything in brutality that I have (it's impossible not to), I am certain that we here are already four steps ahead of where America will be before Obama (got to love multiculturalism) leaves office."

Interesting.   Would be willing to elaborate?

80  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / We have lost on: June 27, 2015, 04:03:08 PM
"Meanwhile, we will are paddling upstream against a really strong current.  99% of colleges have been taken over by liberal teaching and an even higher percentage in the k-12 public schools.  84% of O'care enrollees are subsidized, no longer able to take a disinterested view.  Most Hispanics know someone personally affected by the immigration reform debate.  Most gays don't know it is Republicans who would actually give them far more liberties.  Most Jews aren't impressed that Republicans are now the defenders of Israel and most blacks have never voted for a Republican.  Most unemployed, recent college grads think redistribution grows the economy.  All network news and nearly every major newspaper are in lockstep with DNC talking points."

And we have an Republican governor hugging Al Sharpton in a show of love, we have Monica Lewinsky receiving a standing ovation, and probably 70 million people in the country born somewhere else and all with a family member affected by immigration and a party that is in disarray and without leadership and a President with outright Communist ties and few if anyone who seems to care.

Were done.   Where can we go?  Levin keeps talking about State Legislators.  The Left has control of the 90 % of propaganda machine as you point out.   That won it for them.

That and making so many people dependent on government, and bringing in millions of people from other countries who want the good life but without the American ideals of responsibility, capatilism, competition, freedom from government etc.   

Only way out I see is a catastrophy that might wake up enough people to the reality of losing our freedoms and a prospect of total government Wall Street fascist control.


81  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / opinion on housing ruling on: June 26, 2015, 09:59:34 AM
I do believe they should start putting affordable housing in the Hamptons, LI, Santa Monica, Ca, Lenox Hill, NYC, Palm Springs, Ca. and Palm Beach, Fl. and across the street from the White House, DC, and Georgetown, DC .

http://www.wsj.com/video/opinion-journal-is-housing-ruling-constitutional/B176E1A5-FEEF-4487-B735-6578DF528036.html
82  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: June 26, 2015, 09:24:35 AM
The American College of Physicians represents me about as much as the Republican party.  Actually they are s0cialists like the Democratic party.   Here is their predictable response to the SCOTUS decision.

***Reaction by Internal Medicine Physicians to Supreme Court Opinion
American College of Physicians (ACP) Applauds SCOTUS for Upholding Subsidies

(Washington, June 25, 2015) The American College of Physicians – the nation’s largest medical specialty society and second largest physician group – applauds today’s opinion of the Supreme Court of the United States in the King versus Burwell case.

In an opinion issued today, the Supreme Court ruled that the premium subsidies created by the Affordable Care Act (ACA), which are essential to making coverage affordable to millions, will continue to be available in states where the federal government manages their health insurance marketplaces.

ACP President Dr. Wayne J. Riley, MPH, MBA,MACP said, “we are thrilled and gratified by the Court’s ruling, which affirms that the citizens of all 50 states will have the opportunity to access either a state or federal exchange to obtain subsidies to purchase health insurance policies which benefits themselves, their families and loved ones.”

In March, the College joined with other health advocacy organizations in an amicus brief urging the court to uphold the subsidies, because of the grave danger a ruling against them would pose for patient care and the health and well-being of all Americans.

Dr. Riley further added that “the Patient Protection & Affordable Care Act of 2010 is now more than ever, the law of the land and we urge the Congress to work with this and future administrations to improve it in the years ahead.”

To illustrate, had the Supreme Court ruled with the petitioners in King versus Burwell and overturned the subsidies, the Kaiser Family Foundation estimates 6.4 million people would have been in immediate danger of losing their premium tax credits, and subsidized enrollees would have seen a 287 percent average premium increase. The Urban Institute/Robert Wood Johnson Foundation estimates the number of uninsured would have increased by 8.2 million.

For many years, ACP has advocated for every American to have access to affordable coverage, knowing that uninsured people live sicker and die younger than those with insurance. By upholding the ACA’s premium subsidies in all states, the Supreme Court decision will ensure continued coverage for many millions of Americans—and as a result, better health for them.

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The American College of Physicians is the largest medical specialty organization and the second-largest physician group in the United States. ACP members include 141,000 internal medicine physicians (internists), related subspecialists, and medical students. Internal medicine physicians are specialists who apply scientific knowledge and clinical expertise to the diagnosis, treatment, and compassionate care of adults across the spectrum from health to complex illness. Follow ACP on Twitter and Facebook.

Contact:   David Kinsman, (202) 26****
83  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Donald Trump on: June 19, 2015, 11:02:26 AM
According to this article it is 52%.   My point is if we keep talking Mexicans we sound like we are picking on them.  Why not speak about anyone from anywhere who  doesn't belong here?   I think this will divert this from being an "hispanic" issue somewhat.   If we were on the border with India or Indonesia or Ghana most of the illegals would be them. 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/11/21/7-charts-that-explain-the-undocumented-immigrant-population/
84  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Donald Trump on: June 19, 2015, 09:47:18 AM
Not only is he wrong to call them all criminals

Trump makes a huge mistake about speaking of the "Mexicans".   Many Republicans do the same thing when they speak of Mexicans.  It is about all illegals immigrants where ever they are from.  South Central American, Caribbean, Africa, Europe (50K Irish here illegally one est. in NYC alone), Asia.

The debate need not focus on the *Spanish* speaking ones (though they are the majority).

That would IMO be a good Republican counter to Trump.

BTW Michael Savage just called Trump the "great white hope".   Wow.  Huge mistake.  That gives the left much fodder.
85  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues on: June 09, 2015, 12:04:09 PM
My only disagreement is she tends to focus on Latinos a bit too much.  Surely they make up a large portion of the illegals, but what about those coming here from other countries?   From the Caribbean, Europe, Africa, Asia?

*****IMMIGRATION ADVOCATES FRIGHTENED BY 99-POUND BLONDE
June 3, 2015

Third World immigration advocates Frank Sharry, Ali Noorani and Marc Andreessen aren't shy about rushing to the press with pabulum quotes about how wonderful immigration is, but they don't want to debate me, even to lie about all those benefits.


They don't want you to think about immigration at all.


Although you will miss the lush analytical context of the full case made in my smash new book, Adios, America: The Left's Plan to Turn Our Country Into a Third World Hellhole, here are some more startling facts from my book that the anti-American crowd doesn't want you to know:


-- If an illegal alien drops a baby on American soil, the entire family can access welfare programs that were supposed to be for U.S. citizens -- in addition to the government assistance illegal aliens can collect right away, such as food stamps and housing subsidies, free medical care and free schooling.


-- The Constitution did not make U.S. citizenship a game of "Red Rover" with the Border Patrol. Haha! Too late -- I had the baby! The 14th Amendment confirmed the citizenship rights of former American slaves -- not 21st-century freeloaders from China.

-- Our ludicrous "anchor baby" policy was invented out of whole cloth by Justice William Brennan and slipped into a footnote in a Supreme Court opinion in 1982.


-- On average, college graduates in the United States pay about $30,000 more in taxes each year than they get back in government services, while those without a high school degree get back about $35,000 more in government services than they pay in taxes.



-- Only about 7 percent of Americans do not have a high school diploma, but more than a third of legal immigrants under the post-Kennedy immigration act and about 75 percent of illegal aliens do not have a high school diploma.


-- Mexican immigrants send $20 billion back to Mexico every year -- more than the U.S. sends to that country in direct foreign aid.


-- The New York Times was saved from bankruptcy by one of the richest men in the world, Mexican Carlos Slim, whose fortune comes from illegal aliens' sending money -- most of it from the U.S. taxpayer -- back to Mexico.


-- Anything the Times says on immigration ought to be treated like a press release from a tobacco company about the low risk of disease from smoking.


-- Contrary to repeated assertions that fences don't work (by the Times, as well as a slew of Republicans, such as former Texas governor Rick Perry), after Israel completed a fence along its border in 2013, the number of illegal aliens entering the country dropped to zero.


-- The country that put men on the moon can't seem to build a wall like the one the Chinese built 700 years before Christ.


-- Fully half of the fires on federal or tribal land investigated by the Government Accountability Office, where a cause could be determined, were set by illegal immigrants. (For suggesting as much, Sen. John McCain was denounced as a racist on MSNBC and in The Washington Post.)


-- Illegal immigrants from Mexico planted a huge pot farm right in the middle of Sequoia National Forest, dumping pesticides and refuse within a few miles of the world's tallest tree.


-- The Sierra Club, which took a $100 million donation from hedge fund billionaire David Gelbaum to be pro-illegal immigration, never said a word about it. Nothing the Sierra Club says about immigration -- or the environment -- can be believed.


-- The government refuses to say how many foreign-born residents have been sentenced to prison in America. There is no attempt to count naturalized citizens at all, or legal immigrants in state prisons. Even illegal immigrants are counted only if the states have requested reimbursement from the federal government for those inmates.


-- Instead, the government issues reports with its wild guesses about the number of aliens who are imprisoned in America. The Department of Justice relies on immigrants' self-reports. The GAO goes by Bureau of Prisons data. The U.S. census simply guesses the immigration status of inmates.


-- In 2010, New York state prisons held more than 4,000 inmates from 10 Latin American and Caribbean nations, and fewer than 150 inmates from all of Western Europe (most of whom were probably Muslims).


-- There are already more Hispanics than whites in two states, New Mexico and California, and Hispanics are the largest minority group in Arizona, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Idaho, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Massachusetts, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, Texas, Utah, Washington and Wyoming.

How about letting these facts "come out of the shadows"?


COPYRIGHT 2015 ANN COULTER****

86  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Medical research, Forbes and Wall Street on: June 09, 2015, 10:26:35 AM
Perhaps this shouldn't be under the "politics" of health care thread but I post this article because it shows 4 things.

1)  How studies are misleading.   First a drug with a suspected 28% increase risk of heart failure turns out not to be true at all - not surprising. 

2) That this article is in an investment magazine, Forbes,  tells us how literally interwoven Wall Street is with our health system.  There could have been more investor analysts at a recent cancer conference looking for an insider edge than there were oncologists.

3)  The fact that it reports DDP 4 inhibitors may not decrease risk of stroke or heart attack.  So the "f" what.  Does that suggest the drug is no good or we shouldn't worry about lowering elevated blood glucose?  NO!!

4)  The lesson to take away is question the MOTIVES as well as the reported results of all research today.  I can vouch first hand how money corrupts many in the health field just like everyone else.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2015/06/08/giant-study-boosts-januvia-mercks-6-billion-drug/2/

 
 
87  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness on: June 09, 2015, 10:10:12 AM
Good article but it is not just his glibness guilty of all the above.  It is the majority of the Democrat party machine and the 40% of the electorate that moves in tandem with this corrupt mafia like organization that is guilty.

They are all co conspirators.
88  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Work and other visas and other passes here are ALL out of control on: June 06, 2015, 02:18:14 PM
"They said that over all, the company had a net gain of 70 tech jobs."

Sure.  Just all to people not born here. 

Hey this is good for us were told.

Only those that say that aren't the ones who wind up being hurt by this.

Or, they are the ones hiring the cheap labor and benefiting screwing Americans.

As a doctor in NJ where more than half the doctors are born elsewhere I have first hand experience with this. 

Hey so what?  It is good for all.  We have a doctor shortage don't we?

No main stream Republican will care about this.  You know what?

We should start importing our politicians from other countries.  Start replacing the goons we have now.  I would love to see this and hear how much they like it.

89  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Trade Issues / Freedom to Trade on: June 05, 2015, 05:31:38 PM
One more thought.  I guess one other explanation is someone dug up dirt on McConnell or Boehner and is extorting them to push for a deal.  Perhaps it is the stick not the carrot.    Mark Levin questioned brought up this point. 

Perhaps the DOJ caught them at the local DC brothel.  ?

 undecided
90  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: June 05, 2015, 05:28:19 PM
Doug,

Your right.

Anyone see a pattern.  Any Republican is a fair target (Hastert for withdrawing his own money for a personal reason),  Rubio because he has four traffic tickets in 18 years, or a Democrat who doesn't toe the Obama line (Menendez) while the Democrats who do toe the line (Sharpton, Clintons, etc.) are given passes.

The Clinton foundation is a nice example of what is the tip of the ice berg in white collar crime. 



91  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Trade Issues / Freedom to Trade on: June 04, 2015, 08:01:02 PM
The fact that McConnell is saying the trade deal is about the country and not Obama just shows how corrupt he is.  There can be no other explanation that he is for this for pork and for his lobby business cronies.

Just despicable how our own party just washes us down the drain.  I expect it from the crats but not from Republican leaders.

Just despicable.

Doug, I take it you go to Repub conventions?

I for one am with the millions who will not vote for the likes of Bush (unless he really changes his tune), Graham, Kasich, Christy, and the like.   I will sit home and if Hillary wins she wins.  These guys are a loss anyway so no point in voting for them.

McConnell and the other fraud from the other House are corrupt.  Just no other explanation folks.

Give Obama fast track?  There not crazy - just corrupt.

92  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Bush Presidency on: June 04, 2015, 02:03:55 PM
Whatever one thinks of W's policies he wasn't or isn't a lying narcissistic fraud.
93  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Warped legal system for all to see. on: June 04, 2015, 02:01:59 PM
The Mobsters' reply has gone from a laughable "not one shred of evidence" to "no smoking gun".

The evidence is already beyond a reasonable doubt.   Just no controlling legal authority willing to take this mob to task.
94  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of the Republicans on: June 03, 2015, 11:01:17 AM
Drudge points out we don't keep track of voters, the trade agreement is top secret.

I will not vote in '16 if we cannot get a Republican who will put an end to the progressive onslaught.  Jeb will not do this.

Christy is a joke.

Graham is a joke.

I want someone who will stand up for Americans.

Not people who have decided one world government is the way.

I don't care if it is Jeb vs. Hillary.  I will sit home.

 
95  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: June 03, 2015, 09:32:36 AM
"Is this the point where I have officially lost (again) Phase I of my bet with ccp, that she won't run, won't win the nomination, and won't be elected President?"

Doug,

This is one bet a don't like winning.

We've seen before how not only the Clinton mob will NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER but how gullible so many voters are that they can be bought with chump change and emotional politics.  We have also seen that honesty , integrity, means so little to so many people as long as they get their tax payer benefits.

That is all the soak the rich crowd care about.

MarK  Levin keeps pointing out how Reagan, the last real conservative, won two landslide elections.

The electorate is not the same as then.  At least 50 million people in this country not born here and 80% of those are Democrats.   I do not feel confident we can win them over when going up against tax for cash for vote politicians.

I guess I sound like a broken record at this point.

Maybe one of the Repubs will break through.  Jeb is NOT the guy.   For the fourth time.  After H we got Clinton.  After W we got a Obama.   Jeb is not different then them no matter what they say.

WE don't need a "grown-up". If I hear Bush and his crowd say this once more.  We need a conservative leader who believes in America.  Not one world government.

I am also tired of Perrino on Fox.  What a self serving phoney she is.  I don't trust any Bush people except (ironically) W, Cheney and a few others.
 
96  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Same as Obama care on: June 01, 2015, 11:32:13 AM
Incredibly complex, no one seems to be upfront as to what's in it, or understand what is in it, and all in secret.   It is probably giving away our sovereignty away to a multination trade agreement.   Of course big companies probably had a say in its' formulation and the rest of Americans get it handed to us whether we like it or not.   So what else is new?   


****Julian Assange On TPP: Only 5 Of 29 Sections Are About "Traditional Trade," Covers "Essentially Every Aspect Of A Modern Economy"

Speaking from his 'prison' in the Ecuadorian embassy in London, Wikileaks founder Julian Assange explains the Trans-Pacific Partnership treaty, which would link his home country of Australia with the U.S. economically. "It is mostly not about trade," Assange says. "Only 5 of the 29 Chapters are about traditional trade."

JULIAN ASSANGE, WIKILEAKS: First of all, it is the largest ever international economic treaty that has ever been negotiated, very considerably larger than NAFTA. It is mostly not about trade, only 5 of the 29 Chapters are about traditional trade.

 The others are about regulating the internet, and what information internet service providers have to collect, they have to hand it over to companies under certain circumstances, the regulation of labor conditions, regulating the way you can favor local industry, regulating the hospital, health care system, privatization of hospitals, so essentially every aspect of a modern economy, even banking services are in the TPP.

 So that is erecting and embedding new ultramodern neoliberal structure over U.S. law and the laws of other countries. And putting it in treaty form.

 By putting it in a treaty form, there are 14 countries involved, that means it is very hard to overturn, so if there is a desire, a democratic desire to do it on a different path. For example, to introduce more public transport. Then you can't easily change the TPP treaty, because you have to go back to the other nations involved.

 Now looking at that example, what if the government or a state government decides it wants to build a hospital somewhere, and there is a private hospital has been erected nearby.

Well the TPP gives the constructor of the private hospital the right to sue the government over the expect loss, the loss in expected future profits. This is an expected future loss, this is not an actual loss that has been sustained, this is a claim about the future.

 We know from similar instruments where governments can be sued over free trade treaties, that that is used to construct a chilling effect on environmental and health regulation laws. For example, Togo, Australia, Uruguay are all being sued by tobacco company Phillip Morris to prevent them from introducing health warnings on cigarette packaging...

 It is not even an even playing field, lets say you were going to let companies, make it easier for companies to sue governments, maybe that is right, maybe the government is too powerful and companies should have the right to sue them in certain circumstances.

 But it is only multinationals that get this right. U.S. companies that operate in the U.S. in relation to investments that happen in the U.S. will not have this right.


Julian Assange's Wikileaks website is the only place where you can read one of the 29 secret chapters of this treaty. Current TPP negotiation member states are the United States, Japan, Mexico, Canada, Australia, Malaysia, Chile, Singapore, Peru, Vietnam, New Zealand and Brunei. The TPP is the largest economic treaty in history, including countries that represent more than 40 per cent of the world´s GDP.
97  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of the Republicans on: June 01, 2015, 09:56:17 AM
It wasn’t long after that the Sunlight Foundation reported on just how much Hastert thought himself qualified to steer earmarks back home. The foundation found that Hastert had used a secret trust to join with others and invest in farm land near the proposed route of a new road called the Prairie Parkway. He then helped secure a $207 million earmark for the road. The land, approximately 138 acres, was bought for about $2.1 million in 2004 and later sold for almost $5 million, or a profit of 140 percent. Local land records and congressional disclosure forms never identified Hastert as the co-owner of any of the land in the trust. Hastert turned a $1.3 million investment (his portion of the land holdings) into a $1.8 million profit in less than two years.

 Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/419125/how-did-denny-hastert-get-rich-enough-pay-millions-accuser-john-fund

This is probably a very common scam the politicians use to make money.   Remember this is exactly how Harry Reid got his millions.  Same scam.

"Oh but perfectly legal"   angry

As for Hastert as a Speaker I do recall he was for the party, the country, and a representative worthless.   He never did or said anything.
As for sexual indiscretion(s) hard to say.  Why now that he is rich did his alleged victim come forward ~ 35 later.

98  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The United Nations/ US Sovereignty/International Law on: May 29, 2015, 09:51:32 AM
This explains 100% the reason why Brock is shoving it down our throats in secret.   
There is no way Brock is pushing it and it will be good for Americans.  Zero chance. 
No doubt rumors that it will help illegals have basis of truth to it.   Cruz can say that President should pledge that he cannot do anything unilaterally towards this end but says nothing about it already being in the agreement buried on page 50,000 somewhere that it is already the case.
The Republicans are sell outs. 

99  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of the left on: May 28, 2015, 12:58:48 PM
I find this poll rather discouraging.   Apparently 37 % polled think or are so stubborn they will claim she Clinton is honest.  70% think she is a good leader.  Really.  Why?  On what basis?

 We don't have democracy or a republic if our leaders are serial liars.  We have tyranny.
Honesty should be, but is not, a major prerequisite  to hold elective office.  I don't rejoice at these numbers. 

*****by John Nolte28 May 2015203

Former-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is the most famous and well-known politician (not named Barack Obama) in America today. Clinton has been in the national public eye for nearly a quarter-century. Everyone has their own opinion of her, and for that reason she is polling like an incumbent. The only thing is that she is polling like a vulnerable incumbent.

The joint scandals involving Clinton violating State Department email regulations and all the shady money around the Clinton Foundation have taken a serious toll, especially on her credibility. According to a Pew Poll released Thursday, a full 53% say Clinton is not honest. Only 39% disagree.

Clinton scores high on leadership (60-37%) but is weak on whether she cares about voters’ “needs and problems” (48-47%).*****
100  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces on: May 28, 2015, 12:39:59 PM
Heading:  "Coulter is incorrect"

Do you mean politically incorrect?
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