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51  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / So what is anybody going to do about this? on: March 28, 2015, 09:50:02 AM
Answer:

Nothing.   Clinton has obstructed justice for decades.   Now she is the Democrat Party's premiere candidate.   Unless we have an O'Malley/Warren ticket challenge.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/benghazi-chairman-clinton-wiped-private-email-server-%e2%80%98clean%e2%80%99/ar-AAa7d9t

Could anyone imagine if a lower level government employee did this?
52  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: March 26, 2015, 01:21:23 PM
None of this stuff will stop the Clinton machine.  No matter what we hear the first response is, "no laws were broken".  Every single time and the machine rolls ahead.

The MSM fawns and the opposition just twists and wrings our hands in frustration.   

53  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Saudi Arabia & the Arabian Peninsula on: March 25, 2015, 01:22:23 PM
http://www.i24news.tv/en/news/international/middle-east/63570-150308-saudi-arabia-becomes-world-s-biggest-arms-importer-amid-regional-concerns

I posted on the Middle East thread that I would bet Saudis are already working on nuclear weapons.   They are proactive not reactive in general.
54  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Media Issues on: March 24, 2015, 09:01:13 AM
Anyone notice a problem with Breitbart's website?  Every time I try to log on I get sudden stops with warnings about spyware.   Seems like the site is sabatagued.
55  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: March 24, 2015, 08:59:58 AM
I like Cruz too.  He was very good on Hannity last night. 
56  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Senator Marco Rubio on: March 23, 2015, 09:08:23 AM
Agreed.   Watch for Hillary come out to secure the Democratic Jewish vote with strong remarks for Israel.

If she doesn't I would be very surprised. 

And I wouldn't count on the Democratic party to lose the liberal Jewish vote either way though.  Maybe they would sit out the election but it seems hard to believe any of them would be willing to vote for a Republican.   To them Repubs are worse than Nazis.  cry
57  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Money, the Fed, Banking, Monetary Policy, Dollar & other currencies, Gold/Silver on: March 23, 2015, 09:01:28 AM
Hi Objectivist.

Thanks for the article.

I see construction like crazy near me in NJ.  New shops stores etc.   The vast majority seem to be large chains and mega companies like Walmart, chipotles, dunken donuts, etc.  Many are manned by people with accents. 

It seems there are 2 economies.

58  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Middle East: War, Peace, and SNAFU, TARFU, and FUBAR on: March 22, 2015, 08:11:46 PM
After reading this one can only think Saudies are *already* looking into nucs behind the scenes.

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2015/03/22/can-you-guess-which-country-is-stockpiling-65-bill.aspx
59  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Israel, and its neighbors on: March 22, 2015, 08:05:21 PM
Just when one thinks there may be just a tiny crack in the dam that hold Jews to the Democrat party the "out" will be to simply look ahead to Hillary.  Thus the liberal Jews will remain mostly silent as long as they can then start propping her up.

This article nicely outlines what to us is obvious:

http://nypost.com/2015/03/22/israel-beware-of-obama/
60  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Levin on Baker on: March 21, 2015, 02:10:52 PM
This could go under Bush or '16 thread but I settled on this.  Mark Levin has the same feelings about Baker as me.  He worked for Reagan as did Baker.   I don't recall George Schultz being a lot better with regard to his affect with "Jews".

Well W brought back Rumsfeld.  That did not work.   Cheney I like but I am certainly in the minority.   Too bad Kissinger is too old.   When he speaks I listen.
(like I do with Levin who is one of the few real warrior's fighting out fight left:


http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/03/20/levin-criticizes-jebs-association-with-israel-hater-advisor/
61  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The war on the rule of law on: March 21, 2015, 07:15:33 AM
I am not sure how I started receiving Hillsdale imprimis but it has great articles (of course I agree with the vast majority of them   cool

This could go under the immigration thread too.   

But we need not fear.   The elite Republicans are trying to elect a grown-up who will handle this.

http://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/
62  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Israel, and its neighbors on: March 19, 2015, 07:36:41 AM
"But whoever wants change, hope, and really a better future "

Change and hope - gee wiz - where did we ever hear this phrase from?   Sound familiar.   

He means give the country away to the world.  Just like here.
63  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness on: March 17, 2015, 09:09:33 AM
Nixon was impeached for this.  (yes I know his WH tapes were voluntary on his part) but does not this smack of a cover up in the same way?

Is this not astonishing?   If the media will not protect us from tyranny no one will:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/03/16/white-house-foia-regulations-deleted/24844253/
64  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Al Rosen: arguably the third on: March 14, 2015, 09:46:59 PM
greatest Jewish baseball player behind Hank Greenberg and Sandy Koufax:

*****
Baseball

Al Rosen, Who Missed Triple Crown by a Hit, Dies at 91

By RICHARD GOLDSTEINMARCH 14, 2015
 
 Al Rosen in 1956. He led the American League in home runs twice and in 1978 was picked by George M. Steinbrenner to run the Yankees. Credit Ed Widdis/Associated Press 

Al Rosen, a slugging third baseman for the Cleveland Indians who was unanimously named the American League’s most valuable player in 1953, when he came within a hit of winning the batting triple crown, but whose career was cut short by injury, died Friday in Rancho Mirage, Calif. He was 91.

Rosen, whose death was announced by his family, was also president of the Yankees in the late 1970s and president and general manager of the Houston Astros and San Francisco Giants, helping to build their 1989 pennant winner.

In the early and mid-1950s, Rosen, a muscular right-handed batter, joined with the lefty-swinging Luke Easter and Larry Doby to provide the punch in Cleveland’s lineup. Rosen led the league in home runs twice and runs batted in twice and played in the All-Star Game every year from 1952 to 1955. He was best remembered for the summer of 1953, when he led the league in home runs with 43, and runs batted in with 145, while batting .336.

Going into the final game in 1953, Rosen was battling Mickey Vernon, the Washington Senators’ first baseman, for the batting title. In Rosen’s last at-bat, against the Detroit Tigers at Cleveland’s Municipal Stadium, he hit a slow grounder to third base and seemed to have beaten the throw on a close play.

“Everybody on the bench thought I was safe,” Rosen told Baseball Digest in 2002. But the umpire, Hank Soar, called Rosen out, and he agreed.

“I tried to leap to first base,” Rosen told Baseball Digest in 2002. “But I did a quick step and missed the bag.”

Had Rosen been safe, he would have won the battling title and the triple crown. But Vernon edged him for the batting championship, finishing with a .337 average.

Despite being hampered by a broken finger, Rosen hit .300 in 1954, helping the Indians win the pennant with a then league-record 111 victories, ending the Yankees’ streak of five consecutive pennants.

Ralph Kiner, the future Hall of Fame slugger who joined the Indians in 1955, came to admire Rosen. As Kiner told Danny Peary in “We Played the Game,” an oral history of 1950s baseball, “He was the leader of the team and the best all-around player I ever played with.”

Albert Leonard Rosen was born Feb. 29, 1924, in Spartanburg, S.C., where his grandfather, a Jewish immigrant from Poland, ran a department store. When he was a youngster, his family moved to Miami, where, he recalled, he was sometimes taunted over his religion. So he took up boxing and showed the grit he would later display on the baseball field.

“I wasn’t starting trouble in those days, but when it came to me, I wanted to end it, and damn quick,” he told Roger Kahn in “How the Weather Was.”

Rosen also played fast-pitch softball and then turned to baseball in prep school. He later joined the Indians’ organization and made his major league debut in 1947. He played briefly for the Indians’ 1948 World Series champions but did not become a regular until 1950, when he hit a league-leading 37 home runs.

The lingering effects of his 1954 finger injury, incurred fielding a grounder while playing first base for a time, and an injury from an auto accident brought on Rosen’s retirement, at age 32, after the 1956 season. He had a career batting average of .285 with 192 homers and 717 R.B.I.

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After working as a stockbroker and casino executive, Rosen embarked on a second baseball career in 1978 when the Yankees owner George M. Steinbrenner named him the team’s president. Steinbrenner had known Rosen from his years as a shipping executive in Cleveland, and Rosen was already a minority owner of the Yankees.

“George tapped me on the shoulder and said he wanted me to run the Yankees,” Rosen once told The Akron Beacon Journal. “It’s like having a tiara put on your head.”

In midseason 1978, Billy Martin departed as manager and was replaced by Bob Lemon, the former pitching star who had been Rosen’s teammate with the Indians. The Yankees overtook the Boston Red Sox on Bucky Dent’s memorable home run and went on to win the World Series.

But Rosen’s “tiara” did not stay on long, following a familiar pattern in the tumultuous years when Steinbrenner’s Yankees became known as the Bronx Zoo. He quit in midsummer of 1979 amid conflicts with Steinbrenner and Martin, who had returned as manager.

He was president and general manager of the Astros from 1980 to 1985 and the Giants from 1986 to 1992.

He is survived by his wife, Rita; three sons, Rob, Andy and Jim, from his marriage to his first wife, Teresa, who died in 1971; two stepchildren, Gail Evenari and David Loewenstein; four grandchildren and one great-grandchild.

Rosen was known for his determination and intensity. He fielded hundreds of ground balls in drills to improve his fielding, and as Yankees Manager Casey Stengel told Time magazine in 1954: “He’ll give you the works every time. Gets all the hits, gives you the hard tag in the field.”

Rosen once told USA Today: “I worked hard at it. I wasn’t as talented as many. I didn’t have a long career, but I thought I had a good career.”
65  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Share buybacks: the new convenient villian. on: March 14, 2015, 09:31:07 PM
The latest left's spin.  Wages have not risen because Wall Street Hedge funds have forced corporate managers take money from investment, research and modernization to buy back shares.   This seems absurd on the face of it.   A recent article claims all the jobs this economy has produced has essentially gone to foreign born workers.  Why should employers pay more if they don't have to?   If companies were not investing, doing research and modernizing then how do these same economists explain the explosion in technology, the bull run of the last 5 to 6 years?   They are saying it is because unions are bust and they are buying back shares?   Folks this seems like leftist spin.

There was also a rumor online that some law makers are contemplating taxing share buy backs.   Me thinks there is some connection with this odd opinion and a new leftist policy push for more taxation.   Also not a peep in the WSJ article about the role of millions of people abroad flooding the employee pools.   :

******Why salaries don’t rise

The Washington PostWashington Post - Washington Post 
The Washington Post

Harold Meyerson2 days ago

In this Jan. 20, 2015, file photo, Doug Bullock, an Albany County legislator, speaks during the People's State of the State outside the state Capitol in Albany, N.Y. President Barack Obama’s top economists say that even as the U.S. has managed to kick-start a lasting and growing recovery, modest wage gains are far from making up for decades of paycheck stagnation for middle-class workers.   © AP Photo/Mike Groll, File In this Jan. 20, 2015, file photo, Doug Bullock, an Albany County legislator, speaks during the People's State of the State outside the state Capitol in Albany, N.Y. President Barack Obama’s top economists say that even as the U.S. has… 

Job creation is up. Unemployment is down. Wages are stagnant. And economists — well, some economists — are confused.

Tighter labor markets are supposed to give workers more bargaining power. To be sure, there are still millions of Americans who left the workforce during the recession and have yet to return; employers’ knowledge of their absence is probably holding wages down. But at the rate that new jobs are now popping up, we should, by all conventional metrics, be seeing at least some increase in Americans’ take-home pay.

And yet, we’re not. Last week, the Labor Department reported that 295,000 jobs were created in February, and official unemployment fell to its lowest rate since early 2008. Wages, however, increased by an anemic 0.1 percent. Over the previous 12 months, they increased just 2 percent. Factoring in inflation, they’ve barely increased at all. Which defies virtually every economic tenet we learned during the 20th century.

But the economy of the 21st century doesn’t work like its predecessor did. The rise of globalization and work-replacing technology has eliminated millions of middle-class jobs. Many believe that this places more of a premium than ever before on education, on increasing the level of workers’ skills. That premium is real, but it doesn’t even begin to explain our epidemic of stagnant wages. As Elise Gould of the Economic Policy Institute has shown, real wages fell for virtually every American in 2014, save only the poorest, and presumably least credentialed, workers. Wages for people at the 10th income percentile actually increased by 1.3 percent, chiefly due to minimum-wage increases enacted by cities and states. But wages for workers at the 95th percentile — presumably, those with some of the best educations – fell by 1 percent. For workers at the 90th percentile, they fell by 0.7 percent, and at the 80th, by 1 percent. So education isn’t the great explainer after all.

For a more plausible explanation, we must, as the great leaker Mark Felt once told two Post reporters, follow the money. When we do, we find that the funds corporations earmarked for their own investment, research, technology and raises during the 20th century have been redirected to shareholders in the 21st. Over the past decade, more than 90 percent of Fortune 500 corporations’ net earnings have been funneled to investors. The great shareholder shift has affected more than employees’ incomes. As Luke A. Stewart and Robert D. Atkinson noted in a 2013 report for the Information Technology and Innovation Foundation, business investment in equipment, software and buildings increased by just 0.5 percent per year between 2000 and 2011 — “less than a fifth that of the 1980s and less than one-tenth that of the 1990s.”

The power of major shareholders to appropriate corporate revenue has grown as the power of workers to win raise increases has dwindled — even though the actual commitment of shareholders to any one corporation has diminished. (In 1960, the average length of time an investor held a stock was eight years; today, it’s four months, and when computerized high-frequency trading is factored in, it’s 22 seconds.) The decimation of private-sector unions has flatly eliminated the ability of large numbers of U.S. workers to bargain collectively for better pay or working conditions. But the ability of financiers to threaten the jobs of corporate managers unless they fork over more cash to shareholders has greatly increased.

Facing one such challenge from an “activist investor” backed by four hedge funds, General Motors on Monday announced that it would buy back $5 billion of its shares, thereby raising the value of the remaining shares and enriching those investors as a reward for their hard work instilling fear in GM’s managers. As for GM’s assembly-line workers, their contract is up for renegotiation this year, and their union hopes to eliminate or at least diminish the two-tier pay system instituted during the auto bailout, under which every worker hired since 2009 can make no more than two-thirds of what veteran workers make, no matter how long those newer hires work at GM. But with the overall rate of unionization so low, GM’s workers don’t have the leverage that one “activist investor” has, though they make the cars while the investor makes threats.

At the root of our great pay stagnation is the appropriation by major investors of the funds that used to go to businesses’ research, modernization, expansion and workers. Full employment will certainly boost workers’ wages, but unless the power shift from workers to investors is reversed, the stagnant middle class
66  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: March 14, 2015, 08:08:39 PM
Every time Bush says he is the grown up in the room I feel like he is insulting me and others who would consider themselves conservative

I think he should be careful who he insults.   He will not get a vote from me if he keeps this up.

I will sit out '16.   
67  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of the left on: March 14, 2015, 07:58:09 PM
Levin points out that each time the liberals were cavorting with the communist enemy.

The difference now is that the Republicans are trying to stop a liberal President from cavorting with the enemy.

So not only will the MSM not point out the fact Democrats have done this many times they would never point the out this difference either.

And the Republicans should be out front and center pointing this out.  But what do they do instead - cave.  Like they always do.
68  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Israel, and its neighbors on: March 14, 2015, 11:10:40 AM
All this proves the American Jews who are Democrats are Democrats first, Socialists or Communists second, and sadly Americans a very distant third, and Jews dead last.

I no longer identify with them and I am ashamed and embarrassed by them.

What else can I say.

They disgust me.   What back stabbers they are.

I was so proud as an American Jew to hear Netanyahu give that speech.  I recall texting my sister that I was proud to be Jewish again.

Then the phony liberal Jews support this President.  Why because he is a Democrat - no other reason.  If he was a Republican they would be attacking him till hell freezes over.



69  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: American History on: March 12, 2015, 06:40:02 PM
I never saw this picture before.  Is this real or contrived?

http://www.moderndags.com/Lincolns%20Family%2007_19_05.jpg
70  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / PS on: March 12, 2015, 05:19:26 PM
I just sent Sen Cotton an email of support.  Anyone else interested here is his webpage:

http://www.cotton.senate.gov/content/contact-tom
71  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iran on: March 12, 2015, 05:15:12 PM
http://www.breitbart.com/

Cotton stands firm.   There is something strange about Fox News which is doing all it can to make this stand seem to be "misguided".   Well, IMO somebody has to make a stand.

Do we just spend the rest of the next 2 yrs watching our country unravel and be given away?

To the contrary of the MSM would have us believe, a couple of hundred thousand signatures means nothing.  No question we can find just as many who will sign in support of the 47 Senators who sent the letter to the Iranians.
72  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: March 12, 2015, 04:45:07 PM
Well this not coincidently timed scandal just before she and her mob were ready to seize the throne does allow her challenges from the left.

I don't think Warren is so worrisome.   O'Malley is more of a concern to me.  If he picks up steam she will  not be coronated.   If he doesn't we all know the LEFT will rally around her with pitchforks long nails, and growls.   The scandal will be brushed aside.
73  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: ACTION items on: March 12, 2015, 09:37:28 AM
Has she ever publically expressed in interest in running for office?
74  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Music on: March 12, 2015, 09:36:05 AM
It's about time someone actually won a copyright infringement in the music business.  If it wasn't a family of a famous artist the verdict almost certainly would have been different.   No names almost never win against the celebrities.   Unfortunately this is only the tiny tip of the iceberg.

***** AP • MSNBC • USA TODAY • FOX News • New York Times Movies • Movies • Music • TV • Entertainment News Videos
   
'Blurred Lines' verdict likely to alter music business

Mar 11, 11:07 AM (ET)

By ANTHONY McCARTNey

(AP) Marvin Gaye's daughter, Nona Gaye, talks to the media outside the Los Angeles U.S....

LOS ANGELES (AP) — A verdict saying Pharrell Williams and Robin Thicke copied Marvin Gaye's music to create their hit song "Blurred Lines" could ripple across the music industry, potentially changing how artists work and opening the door to new copyright claims.

An eight-person jury determined Tuesday that Williams and Thicke copied elements of Gaye's 1977 hit "Got to Give It Up" and ordered the pair to pay nearly $7.4 million to the late R&B legend's three children.

Millions more in potential future profits for "Blurred Lines" are now also at stake.

The Gaye family will seek an injunction against the song, which will give them leverage to negotiate for royalties and other concessions such as songwriting credit, although Tuesday's verdict could face years of appeals.
 
While the verdict affects Thicke and Williams' finances in the short term, artists and music industry lawyers will likely face new constraints as they sort through the verdict and its implications.

Howard King, lead attorney for Thicke and Williams, said in closing arguments that a verdict for the Gaye family would have a chilling effect on musicians trying to evoke an era or create an homage to the sound of earlier artists. Williams contended during the trial that he was only trying to mimic the "feel" of Gaye's late 1970s music but insisted he did not use elements of his idol's work.

"Today's successful verdict, with the odds more than stacked against the Marvin Gaye estate, could redefine what copyright infringement means for recording artists," said Glen Rothstein, an intellectual property attorney.

He said the decision sets a precedent because "paying homage to musical influences was an acceptable, and indeed commonplace way of conducting business and even showing respect for one's musical idols, (but) after today, doubt has been cast on where the line will be drawn for copyright infringement purposes."

Music copyright trials are rare, but allegations that a song copies another artist's work are common. Singers Sam Smith and Tom Petty recently reached an agreement that conferred songwriting credit to Petty on Smith's song, "Stay With Me," which resembled Petty's hit "I Won't Back Down."
 
In the "Blurred Lines" case, the Gaye family will seek an injunction against the song, giving them leverage to negotiate for royalties and other concessions such as songwriting credits.

Nona Gaye, the late singer's daughter, wept as the verdict was read and later told reporters: "Right now, I feel free. Free from ... Pharrell Williams' and Robin Thicke's chains and what they tried to keep on us and the lies that were told."

Larry Iser, an intellectual property lawyer who has represented numerous musicians such as Jackson Browne and David Byrne in music copyright cases, criticized the verdict.

"Although Gaye was the Prince of Soul, he didn't own a copyright to the genre, and Thicke and Williams' homage to the feel of Marvin Gaye is not infringing," Iser said.

King, the pair's lawyer, said record labels are going to become more reluctant to release music that's similar to other works — an assertion disputed by Richard Busch, the lead attorney for the Gaye family.

"While Mr. Williams' lawyer suggested in his closing argument that the world would come to an end, and music would cease to exist if they were found liable, I still see the sun shining," Busch said. "The music industry will go on."

So, too, will Williams' career, said Joe Levy, editor-at-large at Billboard.

"For Pharrell, the story moves on," he said. "It will move on quickly."

Williams, 41, is a seven-time Grammy Award winner whose songs he's performed or produced have sold more than 100 million copies worldwide. His hit "Happy" has helped make him a household name, as has his work as a judge on NBC's music competition show, "The Voice."

"It's much to Pharrell's advantage that he is at a high point in his career," Levy said.

Thicke's career may have more issues as a result of Tuesday's verdict — which came on his 38th birthday — because "Blurred Lines" was a global hit and his follow-up effort failed to connect with audiences, Levy said. Despite the song's popularity, feminists have criticized it, saying it promotes rape culture.

While the verdict will likely make musicians and record labels more cautious, it won't stop artists from using others' works as inspiration, Levy said.

Despite the decision, he predicted that "Blurred Lines" will continue to make plenty of money for Williams, Thicke and, in all likelihood, the Gaye family.

"People aren't going to stop playing it," Levy said. "It's not just going to disappear."****

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75  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: March 11, 2015, 10:25:27 PM
The Ugly Civil War in American Medicine

By Kurt Eichenwald   3/10/15 at 12:04 PM

A group of doctors is charging that the American Board of Internal Medicine has forced them to do meaningless work to fatten the board’s bloated coffers. Blend Images/Alamy

Are physicians in the United States getting dumber? That is what one of the most powerful medical boards is suggesting, according to its critics. And, depending on the answer, tens of millions of dollars funneled annually to this non-profit organization are at stake.

The provocative question is a rhetorical weapon in bizarre war, one that could transform medicine for years. On one side is the American Board of Internal Medicine (ABIM), which certifies that doctors have met nationally recognized standards, and has been advocating for more testing of physicians. On the other side are tens of thousands of internists, cardiologists, anesthesiologists and the like who say the ABIM has forced them to do busywork that serves no purpose other than to fatten the board’s bloated coffers.

“We don’t want to do meaningless work and we don’t want to pay fees that are unreasonable and we don’t want to line the pockets of administrators,’’ says Dr. Paul Teirstein, a nationally-prominent physician who is chief of cardiology at Scripps Clinic and who is now leading the doctor revolt.

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The physicians lining up with Teirstein are not a bunch of stumblebums afraid of a few tests. They include some of this nation’s best-known medical practitioners and academicians, from institutions like the Mayo Clinic, Harvard Medical School, Columbia Medical School and other powerhouses in the field.

This spat is hardly academic, though. Some doctors are leaving medicine because they believe the ABIM is abusing its monopoly for money, forcing physicians to unnecessarily sacrifice time with their patients and time for their personal lives.

A little history: For decades, doctors took one exam, usually just after finishing training, to prove they had absorbed enough medical knowledge to treat patients. Internists—best known as primary care physicians—would take one test while those who chose subspecialties of internal medicine—cardiovascular disease, critical care, infectious disease, rheumatology—sat for additional exams. Doctors maintained their certification status by participating in programs known as “continuing medical education,” which, when done right, keep physicians up on developments in their field.

The value to a doctor of being certified can scarcely be overstated. Many organizations will not hire uncertified doctors. And, without that stamp of approval, even doctors who open their own practices rarely receive permission from hospital boards to treat their patients in hospitals. It was a sensible way to make sure doctors stayed on top of their game and weed out incompetent clinicians.

Someone, of course, had to pay for the testing and continuing education, and it was usually the doctors. So physicians shelled out money to the ABIM to take the tests, and then ponied up more cash to attend conferences and other programs for continuing medical education. Few objected—it was worth the money to keep up the profession’s standards.

But then ABIM decided that rather than just having doctors take one certification test, maybe they should take two. Or three. Or more. Under this new rule adopted in the early 1990s, internists and subspecialists recertify every 10 years with new tests. In other words, a doctor certified at the age of 30 could look forward to taking an ABIM exam at least three more times before retirement. This was not cheap—doctors spend thousands of dollars not only for the tests, but for review sessions, for time away from their practices. And with each new test, the ABIM made more money.

Physicians sheepishly went along with the process, assuming their good old pal the ABIM was working hard to make sure medical practitioners were fully qualified.

Then, something strange happened, doctors say. The tests started including questions about medical problems that had nothing to do with how doctors did their jobs. For example, anesthesiologists who worked exclusively with adults were required to answer questions about pediatric anesthesiology. To the layman, those might not sound like a big difference,  but it completely ignores how medicine is practiced. For the anesthesiologist, for example, the measurements, methods and almost every other element of putting a child to sleep for surgery is completely different than for an adult (what is the perfect measurement for an adult in a particular scenario could kill the child). And these aren’t calculations that are pulled off a chart; they involve very technical analysis that adult anesthesiologists don’t even know how to do, because they never use them. So the doctors have to spend hours reviewing issues they hadn’t seen since medical school to learn how to do something they have never—and will never—do. Then there are the internists, who are forced to learn details of a subspecialty that they would never use because, in the real world, the first thing they would do is call a subspecialist colleague for a consult—so again, the doctors have to spend time re-learning information that has nothing to do with the actual practice of medicine.

Videos and study sessions sold to help doctors prepare for re-certification exams often featured instructors saying physicians would never see a particular condition or use a certain diagnostic technique, but they needed to review it because it would be on the test. “Exam questions often are not relevant to physicians’ practice,” Teirstein says. “The questions are often out-dated. Most of the studying is done to learn the best answer for the test, which is very often not the current best practice.”

The result? According to the ABIM’S figures, the percentage of doctors passing the recertification test started dropping steadily. In 2010, some 88 percent of internists taking the maintenance of certification exams passed; by 2014, that had fallen to 80 percent. Hematologists dropped from 91% to 82%. Interventional cardiologists went from 94% to 88%. Kidney specialists, 95% to 84%. Lung experts, 90% to 79%.

Wow. Was it Obamacare? Ebola? A sign of the end times? What was turning so many American doctors so stupid all of sudden? Not to worry, the ABIM declares—the board could help doctors keep their certification. All they had to do was pay to take the tests again. Making doctors appear ignorant became big business, worth millions of dollars, and the ABIM went from being a genial organization celebrated by the medical profession to something more akin to a protection racket.

The ABIM disputes that characterization. Lorie B. Slass, a spokesperson for the ABIM, says “there have been and always will be” fluctuations in test results, since different groups of doctors are taking the exam each year. But in each of the categories cited above, there are no statistically significant fluctuations—the passing rate keeps going down. So the point remains: Either doctors are getting dumber each year, or the test that helps determine who gets to practice medicine has less and less to do with the actual practice of  medicine.

Slass says the suggestion that the ABIM is “purposefully failing candidates on their exams to generate more revenue is flat-out wrong.” Maybe so, but according to the Form 990s filed with the Internal Revenue Service, in 2001—just as the earliest round of new-test standard was kicking in, the ABIM brought in $16 million in revenue. Its total compensation for all of its top officers and directors was $1.3 million. The highest paid officer received about $230,000 a year. Two others made about $200,000, and the starting salary below that was less than $150,000. Printing was its largest contractor expense. That was followed by legal fees of $106,000.

Twelve years later? ABIM is showering cash on its top executives—including some officers earning more than $400,000 a year. In the tax period ending June 2013—the latest data available—ABIM brought in $55 million in revenue. Its highest paid officer made more than $800,000 a year from ABIM and related ventures. The total pay for ABIM’s top officers quadrupled. Its largest contractor expense went to the same law firm it was using a decade earlier, but the amounts charged were 20 times more.

And there is another organization called the ABIM Foundation that does...well, it’s not quite clear what it does. Its website reads like a lot of mumbo-jumbo. The Foundation conducts surveys on how “organizational leaders have advanced professionalism among practicing physicians.” And it is very proud of its “Choosing Wisely” program, an initiative “to help providers and patients engage in conversations to reduce overuse of tests and procedures,” with pamphlets, videos and other means.

Doesn’t sound like much, until you crack open the 990s. This organization is loaded. In the tax year ended 2013, it brought in $20 million—not from contributions, not from selling a product, not for providing a service. No, the foundation earned $20 million on the $74 million in assets it holds.

The foundation racked up $5.2 million in expenses, which—other than $245,000 it gave to the ABIM—was divided into two categories: compensation and “other.” Who is getting all this compensation? The very same people who are top earners at the ABIM. Deep in the filings, it says the foundation spends $1.9 million in “program and project expenses,” with no explanation what the programs and projects are.

There are some expenditures, though, that are easy to understand: The foundation spends $153,439 a year on at least one condominium. And it picks up the tab so the spouse of the top-officer can fly along on business trips for free.

The ABIM is not what it was. Its original mission was to make sure doctors provide patients with the best care. When condominiums and lavish salaries and free trips and making money off of physicians failing tests became a priority, the evidence suggests the organization lost its way.

But that may not matter soon. In January 2014, when the ABIM issued a series of new requirements for maintaining certification—that would have generated all new fees—Teirstein and his colleagues declared “enough.” They recently formed a new recertification organization called the “National Board of Physicians and Surgeons.” It will only consider doctors for recertification who have passed the initial certification exam that has been required for decades. Doctors must also log a set number of hours with programs that qualify under guidelines as continuing medical education. The group’s fees are much, much lower than those charged by the ABIM. And its board and management—all top names in medicine—work for free.

This new board is not just about breaking the ABIM monopoly, Teirstein says, but is also part of an effort to put the right people in charge of the profession’s future. Medicine has been “controlled by individuals who are not involved with the day to day care of patients,” he says. “It is time for practicing physicians to take back the leadership.”
76  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: March 11, 2015, 08:52:50 PM
Now Breitbart reports that almost no State Department officials used government email.

What the heck is going on?  These people are supposed to working for us and what they do is public record.

This is a joke.   A slap in our faces.   And what the heck are all these people using email all day long for personal use while on the job anyway.

How many other government agencies are so corrupt.  I thought it was just Copyright and Patent Offices.  

For God's sake we need people to start oversight and minding the store.

As for Hillary, she will run.  And her mafia mob will ram her ahead.

The news of corruption just gets worse every darn day.   
77  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / I have said for years the Republican message sucks on: March 11, 2015, 08:48:38 PM
No party represents me.  Not even the Tea Party.
And many others feel the same way:

Poll: Jeb Bush Fares Horrendously With Middle Class Voters, Only 4 Percent Think He Represents Them

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A minuscule 4 percent of Americans think that former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush represents middle class values well, numbers far worse than Hillary Clinton, President Barack Obama or either political party, a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds.

Bush’s biggest electability problems would come if he does survive what will be a bloodbath GOP primary, as it’s unlikely conservative Republican voters would even turn out for him in a November general election should he get the nomination. This poll shows yet again why that’s the case.

Respondents were asked the following question about Obama, Clinton, Bush, the Republican Party and the Democrat Party: “Let me read you a list of some groups and individuals, and I would like you to tell me how well each one represents the values of the middle class–very well, fairly well, just somewhat well, or not very well. If you don’t know the name, please just say so.”

A whopping 22 percent gave Obama a “very well” rating, and 18 percent did so for Clinton. The Democratic Party got 15 percent “very well” rating and Republicans got 7 percent. But Bush only managed to muster 4 percent, an abysmally low performance among arguably the most important part of the American public for any political candidate: the middle class.

A total of 40 percent responded Bush doesn’t represent middle class values, and 38 percent were somewhere in the middle between “very well” and “not very well.”

Bush’s spokeswoman Kristy Campbell hasn’t responded to an emailed request for comment in response to these numbers.

The survey was conducted from March 1 through March 5 with a sample of a 1,000 adults with a margin of error of 3.1 percent.
78  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: March 11, 2015, 07:48:17 PM
Judge Nepolitano basically said on the Kelly file last night there is nothing that we can do to compel her to turn over this server.

Which to me is astounding.   How is that possible?  A government (of the people for the people and by the people) official conducts business from her own computer and can tell us to go take a hike when we demand to know what she was doing while supposedly representing the United States.   The outrageousness  of it all.

79  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Nuclear War, WMD issues on: March 10, 2015, 07:39:46 AM
Someone called into the Mark Levin radio broadcast and brought up an excellent point.  The US government has severe restrictions on peaceful use of nuclear power here in our country yet they support the use of nuclear power in Iran.

Anyone see a contradiction?
80  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / How did Lincoln become a lawyer? on: March 10, 2015, 02:18:41 AM
http://www.answers.com/Q/Where_did_Abraham_Lincoln_go_to_law_school
81  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: March 08, 2015, 09:47:41 AM
This is one article from the organization the speaker (I noted in the previous post) was promoting.  I am not a member and would not. 

A rather socialistic group.  Yet they are right about pointing out the large layer of administrative costs.   

He thinks the AHA is going to fail in a few years.   One could argue it is designed to fail in the march to single payer.  I don't know.

http://www.pnhp.org/news/2015/march/health-care-law-did-not-end-discrimination-against-those-with-pre-existing-condition
82  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of the left on: March 07, 2015, 02:39:16 PM
So six foreign students get to decide if the flag can be flown in UC Irvine?

More dismantling from within.

I suppose the professors give their whole hearted support.


83  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Nuclear War, WMD issues on: March 07, 2015, 02:33:57 PM
If it isn't obvious by now that there is only one way to stop them?

84  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: March 06, 2015, 07:07:40 PM
The speaker I heard today could answer this.   The numbers and stats above are probably all distortions.  The Affordable Health Care Act has done little if anything to reduce costs.  The administrative costs could be as high as 30%.  The only ones who did well are the same ones who havce done well in the rest of the economy - big companies who have the resources to squeeze out all competition and soak the system.   Without the input of tax dollars to supplement these companies they would go out of business.  We are supplementing them with tax money.

I ask everyone who reads this board:

How much less are you paying for your insurance and is your plan better than last year or the year before that?

I know the answer.

The speaker I heard advocates for single payer.   He made a strong case and almost has me convinced he may be right.

If I can find the website he recommended I'll post but I lost the site when I left a piece of paper somewhere while answering a page.


Based on what his presentation concluded based on a lot of statistics and sources the Newsweek piece is exactly what one would expect from a veiled Democrat outlet - pure propaganda.




85  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: March 06, 2015, 06:52:03 PM
"The Associated Press
 and Judicial Watch announced they’re considering bringing lawsuits"

Judicial Watch probably will.  Thank God for them but
 
does anyone really think for one second the *AP* will sue Hillary?

I don't. 
86  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / I hear a challenge on: March 05, 2015, 02:12:00 PM
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mma/ronda-rousey-theoretically-i-could-beat-100-percent-of-ufc-mens-bantamweights/ar-BBigDvo
87  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Chomsky on: March 05, 2015, 10:22:13 AM
States it was the Iraq invasion by the US that beget ISIS.   Wait I thought ISIS birthed in Syria not Iraq.   Also no mention of course that Baraq's removal of Americans out of Iraq left a void being filled by ISIS in the West of Iraq and Iran in the East of Iraq.  I suspect that ISIS would not have invaded Iraq if we had a real US force still there and Iran would not suddenly be a ally in the fight against them.   

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As Iraq launches a new military operation to retake the city of Tikrit from the self-proclaimed Islamic State, thousands of Iraqi forces and militia fighters have converged in the city Samarra to strike nearby ISIS strongholds. The United States is expected to provide air support as part of its continued bombing campaign. The offensive comes as the Iraqi military prepares for a major U.S.-backed operation to retake Mosul from ISIS in the coming weeks. ISIS "is one of the results of the United States hitting a very vulnerable society with a sledgehammer, which elicited sectarian conflicts that had not existed," says Noam Chomsky. "It is hard to see how Iraq can even be held together at this point. It has been devastated by U.S. sanctions, the war, the atrocities that followed from it. The current policy, whatever it is, is not very likely to even patch up or even put band-aids on a cancer."



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AMY GOODMAN: This is Democracy Now!, democracynow.org, The War and Peace Report. I’m Amy Goodman, with Aaron Maté. Noam Chomsky is our guest for the hour, the world-renowned political dissident, linguist, author of over a hundred books, MIT professor emeritus. Aaron?

AARON MATÉ: Yes. Noam, I wanted to ask you about ISIS. The big news is that Iraq is planning a major offensive to retake Mosul. It’s currently launching strikes to recapture Tikrit with U.S. support. My question is about the effectiveness of the U.S. strategy. To what extent is the U.S. constrained by its own policies in terms of the effectiveness of defeating ISIS, constrains in terms of its ties to Saudi Arabia and its refusal to engage with Iran and groups like Hezbollah, which have been effective in fighting ISIS?

NOAM CHOMSKY: Patrick Cockburn, who has done by far the best reporting on this, describes it as an Alice in Wonderland strategy. The U.S. wants to destroy ISIS, but it’s opposing every force that’s fighting ISIS. So, the main state that’s opposed to ISIS is Iran. They support the Iraqi government, the Shiite government. But Iran is, you know, on our enemies list. Probably the main ground forces fighting ISIS are the PKK and its allies, which are on the U.S. terrorist list. That’s both in Iraq and in Syria. Saudi Arabia, our major ally, along with Israel, is both traditionally, for a long time, the main funder of ISIS and similar groups—not necessarily the government; rich Saudis, other people in the emirates—not only the funder, but they’re the ideological source. Saudi Arabia is committed, is dominated by an extremist fundamentalist version of Islam: Wahhabi doctrine. And ISIS is an extremist offshoot of the Wahhabi doctrine. Saudi Arabia is a missionary state. It establishes schools, mosques, spreading its radical Islamic version. So, they’re our ally. Our enemies are those who are fighting ISIS. And it’s more complex.

ISIS is a monstrosity. There’s not much doubt about that. It didn’t come from nowhere. It’s one of the results of the U.S. hitting a very vulnerable society—Iraq—with a sledgehammer, which elicited sectarian conflicts that had not existed. They became very violent. The U.S. violence made it worse. We’re all familiar with the crimes. Out of this came lots of violent, murderous forces. ISIS is one. But the Shiite militias are not that different. They’re carrying out—they’re the kind of the—when they say the Iraqi army is attacking, it’s probably mostly the Shiite militias with the Iraqi army in the background. I mean, the way the Iraqi army collapsed is an astonishing military fact. This is an army of, I think, 350,000 people, heavily armed by the United States and trained by the United States for 10 years. A couple of thousand guerrillas showed up, and they all ran away. The generals ran away first. And the soldiers didn’t know to do. They ran away after them.

AMY GOODMAN: We have 20 seconds.

NOAM CHOMSKY: Hmm?

AMY GOODMAN: We have 20 seconds.

NOAM CHOMSKY: Yeah. Well, now, it’s basically—the effect, it’s hard to see how Iraq can even be held together at this point. It’s been devastated by U.S. sanctions, the war, the atrocities that followed from it. The current policy, whatever it is, is not very likely to even patch up, put band-aids on the cancer.

AMY GOODMAN: We’re going to have to leave it there, but we’ll continue this discussion tomorrow on Democracy Now! Our guest, Noam Chomsky, institute professor emeritus of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology
88  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Obama called out by a famous liberal on: March 04, 2015, 08:00:11 PM
I wonder if Dershowitz is becoming a conservative?   He even showed up on Fox's REDEYE one evening:

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/Alan-Dershowitz-Benjamin-Netanyahu-Obama-Iran/2015/03/04/id/628190/?ns_mail_uid=95994711&ns_mail_job=1611692_03042015&s=al&dkt_nbr=zs7ii81q
89  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Giuliani on commie Frank Marshall Davis, Obama mentor on: March 04, 2015, 07:48:14 PM
http://spectator.org/articles/61849/here%E2%80%99s-guy-rudy-talking-about-frank-marshall-davis-communist-party-no-47544
90  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Islam in America on: March 04, 2015, 07:06:59 PM
I dunno.  We had a substantial Jewish population in my junior high and when it came to Passover and Yum Kippor we just stayed out to go to synagogue.  It was not a big deal and no one that I recall demanded the entire city's public schools close down for those holidays:

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/03/04/de-blasio-to-announce-addition-of-muslim-holidays-to-city-schools-schedule/
91  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: March 04, 2015, 07:47:05 AM
"A Clinton spokesman, Nick Merrill, told the newspaper that Clinton complied with the letter and spirit of the law because her advisers reviewed tens of thousands of pages of her personal emails to decide which ones to turn over to the State Department after the agency asked for them."

Here we go again.   More sleaze.
92  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Environmental issues on: March 04, 2015, 07:07:23 AM
This fix for this is to start accelerating our burning of fossil fuels and especially coal to warm the Earth back up.
93  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Iran on: March 03, 2015, 01:03:40 PM
Obamster "warns" Benjamin not to release details of the deal he is pushing for .

Yet Obamster had  no problem leaking Israel's plans to attack Iran such as releasing the deal to use Khazakastan ( I think) as a base to launch a strike.

It is never a problem what Obamster does but how dare anyone cross him when he does the exact same to anyone else.

Yet the MSM surrounds the sleeze ball in chief.
94  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Anti-semitism & Jews on: March 02, 2015, 07:44:53 PM
Just a matter of time before we see violence on college grounds.
95  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Israel, and its neighbors on: March 02, 2015, 07:41:59 PM
Very sobering.
96  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Environmental issues on: March 02, 2015, 07:33:20 PM
point well taken
97  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Legal issues on: March 01, 2015, 04:19:28 PM
Well it was a lawsuit against the hospital.  Attorney on Cable just finished saying how hospitals need to protect their employees.   I guess the President doesn't have to protect Americans.   Hospitals do.
98  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Epidemics: Bird Flu, TB, AIDs, Superbugs, Ebola, etc on: March 01, 2015, 04:18:06 PM
Well wait a second.  It was Obama's policies that allowed the Ebola virus into the US that led to her infection.   This was the same girl shown hugging Obamster.  She should be blaming him.  Not the hospital.

http://res.dallasnews.com/interactives/nina-pham/
99  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / second thought on this on: March 01, 2015, 01:44:47 PM
Benjamin N has more guts to stand up to Obama the tyrant than the vast majority of Republicans.   Sad commentary on our politicians.
100  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc. on: March 01, 2015, 01:35:18 PM
ID cards for this is great but ID cards to vote is "disenfranchising".   The left has made us into a laughing stock:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/28/ny-id-cards-a-smash/
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