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451  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Wesbury's financial analysis... on: April 19, 2013, 11:36:19 AM
Here is my frank assessment of Wesbury:  He lives in his own little universe of economic statistics, most of which are provided by the Federal government, and are severely distorted deliberately in this administration's favor.  Of what significance is it that his charts and graphs show a recovering economy when the cold, hard evidence that there NEVER HAS BEEN A RECOVERY is plain to see all around us?  I don't know if this guy truly believes this B.S. he is peddling, or if he is acting in what he believes is his own interest, without regard to truth.  Having worked in the financial industry (banking) and met with investment bankers and advisors countless times during my tenure there (right out of college in the 1980's)  I can tell you categorically that the majority of these economic prognosticators are nothing more than professional bullshit artists.  It's quite evident when you look at their records over a long period of time.  Wesbury is no different in that respect - in my educated opinion.
452  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: US Economics, the stock market , and other investment/savings strategies on: April 15, 2013, 10:38:16 PM

Time will tell if Mr. Wesbury, aka 'sunshine,' is correct or those of us who take a much more dismal view of our current economic situation.  Again - I am not talking only about the stock market.

1)  In a global sense, Wesbury is downplaying the actions of the Fed and taking the position that it really doesn't matter how much money they print.  In this sense he is covering for them.

2)  Look back on that interview with him I posted earlier.  I'd say that is a far cry from "A bad call."  More like - he got it all wrong.

I won't argue the point any longer.  Evidently you have decided that Wesbury's analysis (of the state of the U.S. economy) has validity.  I respectfully disagree.

453  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Geller defies Leftists, Islamists, and speaks at two Synagogues in L.I. on: April 15, 2013, 03:19:10 PM
454  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re:The Assault on Gold and Silver... on: April 15, 2013, 02:44:54 PM
The Assault On Gold

 Paul Craig Roberts

April 4, 2013

For Americans, financial and economic Armageddon might be close at hand. The evidence for this conclusion is the concerted effort by the Federal Reserve and its dependent financial institutions to scare people away from gold and silver by driving down their prices.

When gold prices hit $1,917.50 an ounce on August 23, 2011, a gain of more than $500 an ounce in less than 8 months, capping a rise over a decade from $272 at the end of December 2000, the Federal Reserve panicked. With the US dollar losing value so rapidly compared to the world standard for money, the Federal Reserve’s policy of printing $1 trillion annually in order to support the impaired balance sheets of banks and to finance the federal deficit was placed in danger. Who could believe the dollar’s exchange rate in relation to other currencies when the dollar was collapsing in value in relation to gold and silver.

The Federal Reserve realized that its massive purchase of bonds in order to keep their
prices high (and thus interest rates low) was threatened by the dollar’s rapid loss of value in terms of gold and silver. The Federal Reserve was concerned that large holders of US dollars, such as the central banks of China and Japan and the OPEC sovereign investment funds, might join the flight of individual investors away from the US dollar, thus ending in the fall of the dollar’s foreign exchange value and thus decline in US bond and stock prices.

Intelligent people could see that the US government could not afford the long and numerous wars that the neoconservatives were engineering or the loss of tax base and consumer income from offshoring millions of US middle class jobs for the sake of executive bonuses and shareholder capital gains. They could see what was in the cards, and began exiting the dollar for gold and silver.

Central banks are slower to act. Saudi Arabia and the oil emirates are dependent on US protection and do not want to anger their protector. Japan is a puppet state that is careful in its relationship with its master. China wanted to hold on to the American consumer market for as long as that market existed. It was individuals who began the exit from the US dollar.

When gold topped $1,900, Washington put out the story that gold was a bubble. The presstitute media fell in line with Washington’s propaganda. “Gold looking a bit bubbly” declared CNN Money on August 23, 2011.

The Federal Reserve used its dependent “banks too big to fail” to short the precious metals markets. By selling naked shorts in the paper bullion market against the rising demand for physical possession, the Federal Reserve was able to drive the price of gold down to $1,750 and keep it more or less capped there until recently, when a concerted effort on April 2-3, 2013, drove gold down to $1,557 and silver, which had approached $50 per ounce in 2011, down to $27.

The Federal Reserve began its April Fool’s assault on gold by sending the word to brokerage houses, which quickly went out to clients, that hedge funds and other large investors were going to unload their gold positions and that clients should get out of the precious metal market prior to these sales. As this inside information was the government’s own strategy, individuals cannot be prosecuted for acting on it. By this operation, the Federal Reserve, a totally corrupt entity, was able to combine individual flight with institutional flight. Bullion prices took a big hit, and bullishness departed from the gold and silver markets. The flow of dollars into bullion, which threatened to become a torrent, was stopped.

For now it seems that the Fed has succeeded in creating wariness among Americans about the virtues of gold and silver, and thus the Federal Reserve has extended the time that it can print money to keep the house of cards standing. This time could be short or it could last a couple of years.

However, for the Russians and Chinese, whose central banks have more dollars than they any longer want, and for the 1.3 billion Indians in India, the low dollar price for gold that the Federal Reserve has engineered is an opportunity. They see the opportunity that the Federal Reserve has given them to purchase gold at $350-$400 an ounce less than two years ago as a gift.

The Federal Reserve’s attack on bullion is an act of desperation that, when widely recognized, will doom its policy.

As I have explained previously, the orchestrated move against gold and silver is to protect the exchange value of the US dollar. If bullion were not a threat, the government would not be attacking it.

The Federal Reserve is creating $1 trillion new dollars per year, but the world is moving away from the use of the dollar for international payments and, thus, as reserve currency. The result is an increase in supply and a decrease in demand. This means a falling exchange value of the dollar, domestic inflation from rising import prices, and a rising interest rate and collapsing bond, stock and real estate markets.

The Federal Reserve’s orchestration against bullion cannot ultimately succeed. It is designed to gain time for the Federal Reserve to be able to continue financing the federal budget deficit by printing money and also to keep interest rates low and debt prices high in order to support the banks’ balance sheets.

When the Federal Reserve can no longer print due to dollar decline which printing would make worse, US bank deposits and pensions could be grabbed in order to finance the federal budget deficit for couple of more years. Anything to stave off the final catastrophe.

The manipulation of the bullion market is illegal, but as government is doing it the law will not be enforced. 

By its obvious and concerted attack on gold and silver, the US government could not give any clearer warning that trouble is approaching. The values of the dollar and of financial assets denominated in dollars are in doubt.

Those who believe in government and those who believe in deregulation will be proved equally wrong. The United States of America is past its zenith. As I predicted early in the 21st century, in 20 years the US will be a third world country. We are halfway there.

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455  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: US Economics, the stock market , and other investment/savings strategies on: April 15, 2013, 02:00:17 PM
Respectfully, as I stated before - I have zero faith in Wesbury's analysis or predictions for two reasons:

1) He advises the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, and therefore has a strong incentive to make that institution look good.

2) He has a horrible track record going back at least to 2009 - as evidenced by the interview from that year I posted earlier.
456  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Bureaucracy and Regulations in action: The Fourth Branch of the US Govt. on: April 14, 2013, 05:19:40 PM
Yes, I'm well-aware of this man's predilection for controlling others' behavior.  He's a true Marxist in that sense.  Believes that man can create utopia on this earth, if only the right government polices are enacted.  The very essence of the difference between conservatives and leftists.
457  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Bureaucracy and Regulations in action: The Fourth Branch of the US Govt. on: April 14, 2013, 11:25:26 AM
Yeah - pretty shocking he would write such a thing.  But then again - notice he isn't even discussing scrapping the present tax code and replacing it, which is what has to be done.  There is no "fixing" the present system.
458  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Gold market is being manipulated... on: April 12, 2013, 06:05:19 PM
IMHO, there is currently a fire-sale on gold and silver, and one should be buying, not selling.  The article below details many of the events I've noticed through my own research.  As I asked in a previous post - when the economic collapse comes - and I believe it will within the next five years - would you rather own hard assets, or a pile of worthless stocks and/or paper money?

Why Are The Banksters Telling Us To Sell Our Gold When They Are Hoarding Gold Like Crazy?

By Michael, on April 10th, 2013 -
The big banks are breathlessly proclaiming that now is the time to sell your gold.  They are warning that we have now entered a "bear market" for gold and that the price of gold will continue to decline for the rest of the year.  So should we believe them?  Well, their warnings might be more credible if the central banks of the world were not hoarding gold like crazy.  During 2012, central bank gold buying was at the highest level that we have seen in almost 50 years.  Meanwhile, insider buying of gold stocks has now reached multi-year highs and the U.S. Mint cannot even keep up with the insatiable demand for silver eagle coins.  So what in the world is actually going on here?  Right now, the central banks of the world are indulging in a money printing binge that reminds many of what happened during the early days of the Weimar Republic.  When you flood the financial system with paper money, that is eventually going to cause the prices for hard assets to go up dramatically.  Could it be possible that the banksters are trying to drive down the price of both gold and silver so that they can gobble it up cheaply?  Do they want to be the ones sitting on all of the "real money" once the paper money bubble that we are living in finally bursts?

Over the past few weeks, nearly every major newspaper in the world has run at least one story telling people that it is time to sell their gold.  For example, the following is from a recent Wall Street Journal article entitled "Goldman Sachs Turns Bearish on Gold"...

Another longtime gold bull is turning tail.

Investment bank Goldman Sachs Group Inc. said Wednesday that gold's prospects for the year have eroded, recommending investors close out long positions and initiate bearish bets, or shorts. The shift in outlook was the latest among banks and investors who have soured on gold as its dozen-year runup has been followed by a 12% decline in the last six months.

Goldman began the year predicting gold would decline in the second half of 2013, but said Wednesday the drop began earlier than expected and doesn't appear likely to reverse. Like others, the firm said the usual catalysts that have been bullish for gold during its run are no longer working.

Major banks over in Europe are issuing similar warnings about the price of gold.  The following is from a Marketwatch article entitled "Sell gold, buy oil, Societe Generale analysts say"...

Analysts at Societe Generale predict in a note Thursday that gold prices will fall below $1,400 by the year’s end and continue heading south next year.

They cite two main reasons:

1.  Inflation has so far stayed low and now investors are beginning to see economic conditions that would justify an end to the Fed’s quantitative easing program.
2.  The dollar has started trending higher, which should make gold prices move lower as the physical gold market is extremely oversupplied without continued large-scale investor buying.

And even Asian banks are telling people to sell their gold at this point.  According to CNBC, Japanese banking giant Nomura is another major international bank that has turned "bearish" on gold...

Nomura forecast gold prices will fall in 2013, on Thursday, becoming the latest bank to turn bearish on the precious metal which has been a favorite hedge for investors who fear aggressive monetary stimulus will lead to rising inflation.

"For the first time since 2008, in our view, the investment environment for gold is deteriorating as economic recovery, rising interest rates and still benign Western inflation (for now) will likely leave some investors rethinking their cumulative $240 billion investment in gold over the past four years," wrote Nomura analysts in a sector note on Thursday.

A lot of financial analysts are urging people to dump gold and to jump into stocks where they "can get a much better return".  They make it sound like it is only going to be downhill for gold from here.  The following is from a recent CNBC article entitled "Gold's 'Death Cross' Isn't All Investors Are Worried About"...

Gold is flashing the "death cross" but the bearish chart pattern is not the only thing scaring investors.

The magnetic appeal of a rising stock market has pulled some investment funds away from the yellow metal. Since the beginning of the year, stocks are up nearly 7 percent and gold is down nearly 6 percent.

But if gold is such a bad investment, then why are the central banks of the world hoarding gold like crazy?

According to the World Gold Council, gold buying by global central banks in 2012 was at the highest level that we have seen since 1964...

Worldwide gold demand in 2012 was another record high of $236.4 billion in the World Gold Council’s latest report. This was up 6% in value terms in the fourth quarter to $66.2 billion, the highest fourth quarter on record. Global gold demand in the fourth quarter of 2012 was up 4% to 1,195.9 tonnes.

Central bank buying for 2012 rose by 17% over 2011 to some 534.6 tonnes. As far as central bank gold buying, this was the highest level since 1964. Central bank purchases stood at 145 tonnes in the fourth quarter. That is up 9% from the fourth quarter of 2011, and the eighth consecutive quarter in which central banks were net purchasers of gold.

This all comes on the heels of decades when global central banks were net sellers of gold.  Marcus Grubb, a Managing Director at the World Gold Council, says that we are witnessing a fundamental change in behavior by global central banks...

Central banks’ move from net sellers of gold, to net buyers that we have seen in recent years, has continued apace.  The official sector purchases across the world are now at their highest level for almost half a century.

Meanwhile, insiders seem to think that gold stocks are actually quite undervalued right now.  In fact, insider buying of gold stocks is now at a level that we have not seen in quite some time.  The following is an excerpt from a recent Globe and Mail article entitled "Insider buying of gold stocks surges to multi-year highs"...

The TSX global gold index has lost about a third of its value over the past two years. The S&P/TSX Venture Exchange, stock full of gold mining juniors, hit a multi-year low this month.

Yet, executives and officers who work within those businesses are showing remarkable confidence that the sector is poised for better times.

In addition, the demand for physical silver in the United States seems to be greater than ever before.  According to the U.S. Mint, demand for physical silver coins hit a new all-time record high during the month of February.

And demand for silver coins has not abated since then.  Just check out what has been happening in April so far...

The US Mint has updated April sales statistics for the first time since last week, and to no surprise, the Mint again reported more massive sales, with another 833,000 silver eagles reported sold Monday!   The April total through 6 business days is now 1.645 million ounces, bringing the 2013 total to a massive 15.868 million ounces.  In response to the continued massive demand for silver eagles, the mint also has begun rationing sales of silver eagles to primary dealers resulting in supply delays!  Just as was seen in January, tight physical supplies have seen premiums on ASE’s skyrocketing over the weekend and throughout the day, as ASE’s are rapidly becoming as scarce as 90%!

Something does not appear to add up here.

I also found it very interesting that according to Reuters, Cyprus is being forced to sell most of their gold reserves in order to help fund the bailout of their banking system...

Cyprus has agreed to sell excess gold reserves to raise around 400 million euros (341 million pounds) and help finance its part of its bailout, an assessment of Cypriot financing needs prepared by the European Commission showed.

So exactly who will they be selling that gold to?

And I also found it very interesting to learn that Comex gold inventories have been falling dramatically over the last few months.  The following is from a recent article by Tekoa Da Silva...

A stunning piece of information was brought to my attention yesterday. Amid all the mainstream talk of the end of the gold bull market (and the end of the gold mining industry), something has been discretely happening behind the scenes.

Over the last 90 days without any announcement, stocks of gold held at Comex warehouses plunged by the largest figure ever on record during a single quarter since eligible record keeping began in 2001 (roughly the beginning of the bull market).

In particular, something very unusual appears to be happening with JP Morgan Chase's gold...

JP Morgan Chase’s reported gold stockpile dropped by over 1.2 million oz.’s, or rather, a staggering $1.8 billion dollars worth of physical gold was removed from it’s vaults during the last 120 days.

So what does all of this mean?

I don't know.  But I would like to find out.  Someone is definitely up to something.

Meanwhile, the central banks of the globe seem determined to put their reckless money printing into overdrive.

For example, the Bank of Japan actually plans to double the monetary base of that country by the end of 2014 as a recent Time Magazine article described...

On Thursday, the new governor of the Bank of Japan (BOJ), Haruhiko Kuroda, announced that the central bank would double the monetary base of the country — adding an additional $1.4 trillion — by the end of 2014 in an attempt to end the deflation plaguing the economy. To achieve that, Kuroda will buy government bonds and other assets to inject cash into the economy — what has now become familiar as quantitative easing, or QE — to bump inflation up to a targeted 2%. The plan is part of a greater strategy ushered in by new Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe to restart the economy through massive fiscal and monetary stimulus. It also expands on the efforts by the Federal Reserve, Bank of England and European Central Bank to stimulate growth and smooth over financial turmoil by infusing huge sums of new money into the global economy.

Many in the western world have been extremely critical of this move, but the truth is that we actually started this "currency war".  The Federal Reserve has been recklessly printing money for years, and even though we are now supposedly in the midst of an "economic recovery", the Fed is actually doing more quantitative easing than ever.

Anyone that thinks that gold and silver are bad investments for the long-term when the central banks of the world are being so reckless should have their heads examined.

However, I do believe that gold and silver will experience wild fluctuations in price over the next several years.  When the next stock market crash happens, gold and silver will go down.  It happened back in 2008 and it will happen again.

But in response to the next major financial crisis, I believe that the central banks of the globe will become more reckless than anyone ever dreamed possible.  At that point I believe that we will see gold and silver soar to unprecedented heights.

Yes, there will be huge ups and downs for gold and silver.  But in the long-term, both gold and silver are going to go far, far higher than they are today.
459  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / The Gun-Control Farce... on: April 12, 2013, 10:11:16 AM
High Noon Over Guns

Posted By Arnold Ahlert On April 12, 2013 -

Yesterday, the Senate voted 68-31 to begin debate on a gun control package that will initially focus on three issues: expanded background checks for the purchase of firearms, harsher penalties for gun trafficking, and increased aid for school safety. ”The hard work starts now,” said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) after the vote.

The vote was a defeat for the 29 Republicans and two Democrats who were intent on filibustering the bill, arguing that the restrictions would would constitute a violation of the Second Amendment. ”This bill is a clear overreach that will predominantly punish and harass our neighbors, friends, and family,” said Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) prior to the vote. Despite their defeat, gun control opponents were threatening to invoke a procedural rule that would force the Senate to wait 30 hours before beginning any consideration of amendments.

Whenever the debate actually begins, it is likely that the first amendment to be considered is the agreement reached Wednesday by Senators Joe Manchin (D-WVA) and Pat Toomey (R-PA), scaling back the call for universal background checks contained in the current bill. The universal background checks were authored by Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY). Sen. Reid expects to replace Schumer’s efforts with the compromise.

Yet that tradeoff reveals part of the problem with the process, in that the bill the Senate is debating will be changing substantially as time goes on — so much so, that many senators opposing yesterday’s vote contended that what they are actually voting on remains a mystery. They further noted that while the Manchin-Toomey deal represents a compromise, it is Schumer’s stricter provision that remains part of the bill. ”Because the background-check measure is the centerpiece of this legislation it is critical that we know what is in the bill before we vote on it,” Sens. Rand Paul (R-KY) Ted Cruz (R-TX) and Mike Lee (R-UT), said in a statement. “The American people expect more and deserve better.”

Currently, background checks are limited to transactions conducted by the nation’s 55,000 licensed gun dealers. Gun control advocates insist that such a limitation allows too many sales to take place without checks, making it easier for criminals and the mentally ill to obtain firearms. The Manchin-Toomey plan would expand background checks to cover unlicensed dealers at gun shows, and all sales conducted on the Internet.

It would also expand some rights of gun owners, allowing those who have undergone a background check within the last five years to obtain a concealed-carry permit allowing them to buy guns in other states. It would also make it easier for hunters carrying guns to travel through states that prohibit such weapons, and allow active military members to purchase firearms in their home states. They are currently prohibited from making such purchases when they are stationed somewhere else.

Despite such concessions, the National Rifle Association (NRA) and other Second Amendment supporters remain leery, saying the proposal is still too restrictive. ”While the overwhelming rejection of President Obama and Mayor Bloomberg’s ‘universal’ background check agenda is a positive development, we have a broken mental health system that is not going to be fixed with more background checks at gun shows,” the NRA said in a statement. “The sad truth is that no background check would have prevented the tragedies in Newtown, Aurora or Tucson.”

Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) took the argument one step further. On the Senate floor Wednesday, he warned that universal background checks could lead to a national gun registry that “would allow the federal government to surveil law-abiding citizens who exercise their Constitutional rights,” further noting that the government has no business monitoring any exercise of those rights. ”You see, the federal government has no business monitoring when or how often you go to church; what books and newspapers you read; who you vote for; your health conditions; what you eat for breakfast; and the details of your private life–including your lawful exercise of your rights protected by the Second Amendment and other provisions of the Bill of Rights,” he explained.

Even though this compromise ostensibly waters down such checks, National Review’s Charles Cook explains that gun control advocates will eventually demand more. “Within a few weeks of the bill’s passage, the eerie progressive silence that has marked this tortured process will be broken, and when it is, legions of prominent gun controllers will take to their feet in order to argue that it makes ‘no sense’ for there to be ‘exemptions’ to the almost universal background-check system,” he warns.

His warning is too late with regard to some states. In New York, the state police initially forced ”David,” a 34-year-old college librarian, to turn in his guns after his pistol permit was suspended because he had taken anti-anxiety medication at some point in the past. The NY SAFE Act requires mental health professionals to inform the state when permit holders or would-be permit holders are ”likely to engage in conduct that would result in serious harm to self or others.” A day later, the state was forced to backtrack, when they discovered they had the wrong man. ”Today, we all look like fools,” said Erie County Clerk Chris Jacobs.

“Fools” is putting it mildly. New York is not only forcing mental health professionals to be de facto agents of the state, it is making an utter mockery of the doctor-patient relationship, in which privacy ought to be the foremost concern. If such checks are implemented nationwide, a 2011 survey by Medco reveals that as many as one-in-five Americans, the number currently taking “mental-health-related medications,” could be affected. Furthermore, as the case in New York reveals, due process is hardly an impediment: David’s guns were confiscated prior to a hearing. ”Due process should come before the suspension,” said David’s attorney Jim Tresmond. ”That’s where due process comes in. Before your rights are taken, due process must occur. That’s our constitutional right, not the reverse.” David’s guns remain in police custody until a judge removes the suspension.

In Washington, gun control advocates remain determined to push, as well as expand, their agenda. Harry Reid has promised to re-introduce the assault weapons ban, dropped from the bill last month, as well as a ban on high-capacity magazines. President Obama brought the families of the Newtown shooting victims from Connecticut to Washington, D.C. aboard Air Force One on Tuesday to help push the legislation. And Freshman Senator Christopher S. Murphy (D-CN) gave his first speech on the Senate floor on gun violence Wednesday, displaying large photos of some of the children killed in the massacre to emphasize his efforts.

Bringing Newtown family members to Washington did not sit well with some gun rights supporters. “See, I think it’s so unfair of the administration to hurt these families, to make them think this has something to do with them when, in fact, it doesn’t,” Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) told the Huffington Post. He further contended that the families believe gun control is now a personal issue “because they’ve been told that by the president.” Senator Ted Cruz accused the Obama administration of “really playing on emotions. What it is not focused on are actual policies that will stop violent crime,” he added. The editorial board of Investors Business Daily, who decried the abuse of presidential power in bringing the Newtown families to the nation’s capital, wondered if Republicans can “now give Fast and Furious victims’ families taxpayer-funded flights to Washington?”

It wouldn’t matter if they could. The mainstream media chose to ignore that controversy. That would be the same mainstream media that has circled the wagons around gun control advocates, so much so that CNN has devoted two full days to pushing gun control legislation, even as Second Amendment supporters are ignored.

Yet whatever agreement the Senate reaches may all be for naught. The Republican-controlled House isn’t likely to allow a more restrictive gun control package to pass, even though House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) reiterated his intention to remain noncommittal prior to the Senate reaching an agreement. ”It’s one thing for [Manchin and Toomey] to come to some agreement. It doesn’t substitute the will for the other 98 members,” he told reporters.

Nonetheless, Joe Manchin expressed his hope that something would be accomplished. “Today is the start of a healthy debate that must end with the Senate and House, hopefully, passing these commonsense measures and the president signing it into law,” he said. “The event of Newtown, truly the events at Newton, changed us all. It changes our country, our communities, our town and it changed our hearts and minds.”

What hasn’t changed is the reality that nothing being proposed would have stopped Adam Lanza. Thus, this latest effort is nothing more than an unseemly attempt to use a horrific tragedy as a springboard to infringe upon the rights of law-abiding Americans to bear arms. Therein lies the other fatal flaw in any gun control bill: only law-abiding people will be affected. Furthermore, those well-versed in the American left’s template of using incrementalism to get what they want, understand that concessions made now will lead to demands for further, and far more onerous, concessions later.

In short, the Second Amendment is under assault. It remains to be seen if America is still a nation of laws, or one that can be manipulated into surrendering constitutional rights for the illusion of safety. Here’s a video released yesterday showing a Chicago shopkeeper fighting off two armed assailants with a baseball bat. As you watch it, remember that Chicago has some of the toughest gun control laws in the nation.

What’s going on in this video is real life. What’s going on in Washington is a farce: one hundred senators with armed security details are deciding how much more difficult they will make it for ordinary Americans to enjoy a similar measure of personal security. It doesn’t get more hypocritical than that.
460  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Crafty's earlier WSJ post claiming the Republicans are making a tactical err on: April 11, 2013, 03:15:25 PM

What I make of this is as follows:  Quoting the author: "In an instant, these GOP wizards have taken the onus off Senate Democrats and made the Republicans the media's gun-control focus."  Excuse me?  Since WHEN has the media EVER made Democrats the villains in the gun-control debate?  This legislation needs to be nipped in the bud, and the Republican ball-less wonders who are so afraid of the media need to grow a set, and make the case - forcefully and clearly - WHY this is a bad idea - which they have so far failed miserably to do.
461  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Fed, Banking, Monetary Policy, Dollar & other currencies, Gold/Silver on: April 11, 2013, 02:43:19 PM
For the members' consideration regarding gold:

I own gold not as an investment vehicle, but as an insurance policy against what I believe is an inevitable hyper-inflationary scenario/financial collapse.  Gold stocks or ETFs are NOT alternatives to owning physical gold and silver under this scenario.  As I'm sure everyone here will agree, it's better to be prepared in case this happens, rather than find yourself with worthless paper money and stocks.  Just a suggestion.  Think Weimar Germany in the 1930's.  And YES, I think it could happen here - even globally.
462  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Republicans in Senate caving on gun control - refusing to support filibuster... on: April 10, 2013, 03:27:21 PM
463  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: US Economics, the stock market , and other investment/savings strategies on: April 10, 2013, 03:23:35 PM

With all due respect, most of us here are not concerned with the short-term direction of the stock market, but with the overall condition of the economy, which Wesbury, as demonstrated in my earlier post, has failed miserably to predict.  The stock market is being helped tremendously IN THE SHORT TERM, by the Fed's monetary and interest-rate policy.  Wesbury has a clear incentive to promote a rosy view, as he advises the Fed.  As I told you in a previous conversation, this stock market defies all rationality.  It is NOT supported by fundamentals.  It is being pushed up by Fed policies and by the fact that other investment vehicles, due to extremely low interest rates, are poor alternatives to this irrational market at the moment.  This cannot last, and will eventually come crashing down.  Frankly, I have zero confidence in "Mr. Sunshine's" prognostications at this point.
464  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Brian Wesbury... on: April 09, 2013, 07:42:40 PM
It didn't take much effort today to discover that Wesbury is a member of the Academic Advisory Council of the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago.  So - he certainly has an incentive to make the Fed look good.  That in itself makes his pronouncements suspect in my opinion. 

Further - He appears to have been wrong on almost every one of his predictions over the last 3 years. Want proof?  Take a look at this CNN interview with him from December of 2009:
465  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Non-tracking web search engine... on: April 09, 2013, 03:31:01 PM
I found out about this by listening to the Kim Kommando radio show Sunday night.  It's far superior to Google or Bing or Yahoo, since it does not record your searches or track you in any way so marketers can contact you:
466  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Abysmal economic stats out today... on: April 05, 2013, 03:26:54 PM
As Rush Limbaugh succinctly put it on his radio show this afternoon: "Folks, we are living in a dying country.  There is just no other way to interpret this data.  At least in 1979, which was the last time the labor participation rate was this low, we had an election in 1980 that turned things around.  That didn't happen this time.  We had a chance back in November to stop this and reverse course, and the American voters blew it."

Any economist who looks at this data and says that the economy is improving is either in complete denial or is lying:
467  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Gay & Straight on: March 28, 2013, 12:48:29 PM
Crafty - I don't know the civil law code by heart, but a good friend who is an Atlanta cop (and a libertarian) told me that the law is enforced against men who won't pay child support in the 'hood here all the time - they go to jail.  And the overwhelming majority of these people are not married.  The same principle would apply. 

Same-sex civil unions could be formed with a contract.  As for polygamy - not sure what the issue is here.  The state could outlaw it - which I think is bad policy - but if it were legal - the same principle would apply.  The state should not be granting "permission" for people to form sexual/romantic relationships with one another.  It's contrary to the concept of liberty as our Founders understood it.  I might also point out that there are multiple references to polygamous marriages in the Torah - evidently at that time it was  sanctioned by God, as the Israelites understood Him. 

I am often vexed by the church/synagogue authorities decreeing that this, that or the other is "sinful" according to their arbitrary judgement, and then decreeing to their flocks that their pronouncement be taken as "gospel."  Evidently only THEY have the ability to discern "what God really meant" in Scripture.  Jesus was extremely critical of this very behavior, and often spoke out against it.
468  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Gay & Straight on: March 28, 2013, 10:51:09 AM

In answer to your question - action could easily be brought in civil court, and in fact was before marriage licenses were invented.  The family Bible, with the signatures of the married persons and two witnesses (or separate contract that was generally kept in the Bible or in the case of Jews - Torah) was recognized as legally binding by every state in the Union.
469  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / And then there is this... on: March 27, 2013, 08:00:29 PM
From a straight, quite conservative Christian pastor in Wisconsin who has been arguing against getting a state marriage license for over 13 years now:

You should not have to obtain a license from the State to marry someone anymore than you should have to obtain a license from the State to be a parent, which some in academic and legislative circles are currently pushing to be made law.

When I marry a couple, I always buy them a Family Bible which contains birth and death records, and a marriage certificate. We record the marriage in the Family Bible. What’s recorded in a Family Bible will stand up as legal evidence in any court of law in America. Early Americans were married without a marriage license. They simply recorded their marriages in their Family Bibles. So should we.

(Pastor Trewhella has been marrying couples without marriage licenses for ten years. Many other pastors also refuse to marry couples with State marriage licenses.)

This pamphlet is not comprehensive in scope. Rather, the purpose of this pamphlet is to make you think and give you a starting point to do further study of your own. If you would like an audio sermon regarding this matter, just send a gift of at least five dollars in cash to: Mercy Seat Christian Church 10240 W. National Ave. PMB #129 Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53227.
470  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Privatize marriage - part 2... on: March 27, 2013, 07:52:57 PM
Here is another good blog post, and hilarious but very valid comedy routine on this very topic (video not safe for kids):
471  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Privatize marriage - It was so until the mid-1800s... on: March 27, 2013, 07:50:32 PM

I think this will go a long way toward addressing your questions:
472  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: We the Well-armed People (Gun rights stuff ) on: March 26, 2013, 07:33:23 PM
GM - I think I've made my points quite clearly in my previous posts, several of which you continue to refuse to address.  Like I said - if you want to believe this is all 'hype,' that is your prerogative.  I'll let readers of the forum decide for themselves after reviewing the numerous posts here, along with the links I've included.  I am through arguing with you about this.
473  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Retired Army Officer's Letter to John Cornyn... on: March 26, 2013, 05:15:27 PM
If GM wants to keep his head in the sand regarding this situation, which as I mentioned before CANNOT BE VIEWED IN A VACUUM, that is his prerogative.  Evidently I  and several members of Congress are not the only ones concerned about what is going on with DHS.  To view this as simply "hype" defies logic:
474  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / DHS ammo purchases (continued)... on: March 25, 2013, 09:57:06 PM
GM - the numbers they are supplying to Coburn do not match their order numbers.  So, either they are lying, or doing some very creative accounting.  I'm not seeing the order for 450 million rounds, or the order for 750 million rounds, which the DHS openly admits to.  These tables are also useless because they do not specify what KIND of ammo they are purchasing.  I see no orders here for the hollow point sniper rounds that they openly admit they purchased!

Also, even if the DHS used twice the amount of ammo for training that they claimed to use in the past (15-20 million rounds), they still have ordered enough ammo to last them 35-50 years.  I'm sorry, but I don't see how you can overlook this.

Also, if the DHS has nothing to hide, why are they refusing to answer questions from Congress?

And why are they trying to redact and hide ammo types and amounts on order forms:

Also, the ammo issue cannot be debated in a vacuum.  What about the NDAA allowing the labeling of American citizens as enemy combatants?  What about Obama's secret and unconstitutional assassination list?  What about the militarization of law enforcement in general, including the issuance of APC's to local police?  What about the legislation allowing 30,000 drones into U.S. skies?  What do you have to say about all that in conjunction with the heavy arming of DHS?
475  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / DHS ammo purchases... on: March 25, 2013, 07:52:06 PM
GM - I am well aware of what is required of snipers and am not disputing this.  I have participated in classes such as the one for which you provide an outline.
You continue however, to evade the question of why the government is buying such HUGE QUANTITIES of this ammo.  I can absolutely tell you that there are only a very small percentage of "sniper-trained" military and law enforcement.  The average enlisted person or cop DOES NOT get this sort of training, and does NOT require or use this expensive ammo for this purpose.

You seem hell-bent on "debunking" the concerns being raised, and/or implying that there is nothing nefarious going on here.  I have no idea why that is.

The facts remain as they are, and DHS has studiously avoided answering the very pertinent questions asked by several members of Congress.  I don't believe this is "business as usual" for the government.  Never in my life (and I am 50 years old) have I EVER seen ammunition shortages even close to what we have now.  Walk into a Cabela's or a Bass Pro Shops (major retailers who are not going to artificially limit supplies if they can sell it at pretty much whatever they want to,) and you will see AISLES of bare shelves.  I understand that many civilians are buying ammunition now, but government purchases take precedence by law.  At the very least, the government is trying to minimize the supply available to the public.  I suspect it's actually much worse than that.

476  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Another story on DHS ammo purchases... on: March 25, 2013, 11:19:52 AM
477  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Ammo purchases - other links at the end of this article: on: March 25, 2013, 11:16:01 AM
478  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / More Unexplained DHS Ammo Purchases... on: March 25, 2013, 10:41:42 AM
This just out today.  I know of Crafty's disdain for - but this is being reported from numerous reliable sources.  To me, this is extremely concerning:

479  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Ammunition... on: March 21, 2013, 02:19:49 PM
G M - I don't want to get into a pissing match here, but you're avoiding the second part of my question below, as to the amount of the ammunition purchases,  AND I know from a personal friend who works for DHS that they do NOT use anywhere near this amount of hollow-point ammunition.  Most of what they use in training is conventional, or even "environmentally-safe" ammo, as you point out in your earlier post from DHS.

Until you can come up with acceptable evidence for refutation of the facts reported in Smith's article (not official DHS documents) I am not persuaded that these charges should be dismissed.  Further - you have failed to address the issue with Congressional members asking for information about these purchases and receiving nothing.  Something is not right here - and I don't think what you have posted effectively refutes anything argued in the original article.
480  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Brandon Smith's article... on: March 21, 2013, 09:44:26 AM
G.M. - Did you actually read Smith's article?  What you are posting does not in any way refute what he's saying.  

He never said they don't use .40 cal weapons.  He said most federal agencies do NOT use expensive .40 cal HOLLOW POINT rounds for training and qualifications. The DHS purchased hundreds of millions of rounds of COMBAT AMMO, not training ammo.

He also states quite clearly that DHS uses 15 million to 20 million rounds for training and qualifications per year (annually). So, again, why does DHS need 1.6 billion to 2 billion rounds of ammo for "training" when this would last them at minimum 75 years?
481  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: We the Well-armed People (Gun rights stuff ) on: March 20, 2013, 01:59:42 PM
Crafty - you need to check out these specific stories.  They are sourced from DHS and Congress people, and even have a video of one Congressman discussing this issue, and how he cannot get any answers.  I agree with you in general about the overall sites, but these stories are worthy of your time.
482  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Government ammo, armored vehicle purchases... on: March 20, 2013, 11:24:03 AM
I urge both G.M. and Crafty to consider the following with regard to Brandon Smith's article, and notice each of his arguments. Don't simply take one statement and ignore those related to or supporting it:

This article clearly ignores the fact that the DHS alone
has ordered 1.6 billion to 2 billion rounds, and plays primarily on the
orders of agencies like social security. This is typical of so called
"debunkers". They like to twist the facts or shift numbers to fit their
argument. The bottom line is, the DHS does NOT use hollow point 40. cal
or .308 sniper rounds for training or qualifications. These are combat
rounds only. Also, the DHS has ordered at minimum 75 years worth of
ammunition if they only planned to use it for training, which is absurd.
No government agency plans that far ahead. Also, if they have no
nefarious designs for this massive stockpile, then why are they refusing
to answer the questions of various Congressmen on the issue?

I would also point out to your friends that there are plenty of
Republicans that have supported Obama in his power grabbing, including
using drones against American citizens. Just because a website (NRO) claims
to be Republican, doesn't mean they are anti-state power, or anti-Obama.
483  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Coming conflict... on: March 19, 2013, 07:11:41 PM
G.M. - I only know I've heard some news outlets attempt to soft-pedal the large ammunition purchases.  Specifically, what do you think is inaccurate in Smith's article and why?  I don't trust 95% of the media - who are in Obama's back pocket.
484  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Coming government military assault on our liberties... on: March 19, 2013, 04:59:24 PM
No - I am not being paranoid.  Read the following article by the excellent Brandon Smith, and judge for yourself if there is reason to be concerned:

The Real Reasons Why The Liberty Movement Is Preparing To Fight

Tuesday, 19 March 2013 04:19    Brandon Smith

Years ago while writing for Neithercorp Press I penned an article entitled “One Day Soon, We’ll All Be Homegrown Terrorists”.  In that piece I described a not so far off future in which martial law, economic collapse, and the destruction of civil liberties stood imminent.  I related my views on the propaganda rhetoric of the SPLC, and how they were using false association to tie liberty groups to any deviant organization they could think of, including racists and domestic terrorists, in order to condition the American public to react to our message with immediate contempt. 

It became clear to me then that the SPLC, which had become the propaganda wing of the widely reviled Department Of Homeland Security, was helping set the stage for a paradigm shift in the U.S.  This shift would obviously include economic and social disruption, as well as political turmoil beyond anything our nation has seen for over 150 years.  But most importantly, it would pave the way for certain elements of the American populace, namely those who are awake, aware, and outspoken, to be labeled “enemy combatants” dangerous to the state.

Though posing as an anti-racist monitoring institution, the SPLC’s primary concern has never been the KKK or “White Identity”.  Rather, the SPLC’s job has been and always will be to marginalize and defame those who stand against centralized federal power, regardless of how corrupt that power has become.  They are not anti-racists, or liberals, or concerned citizens; they are STATISTS, who only care about maintaining the superiority of a government that has been bought and paid for many times over by a gaggle of international financiers with delusions of godhood.     

The SPLC, of course, has so far utterly failed in their efforts to stop the rise of Constitutional activists.  By their own admission, “patriot groups” have expanded exponentially since 2008, and continue to develop freely even in the face of wildly absurd character attacks taken from the amoral (immoral) guidebook of Saul Alinsky himself.  The truth, once realized, is difficult if not impossible to stop.

Unfortunately, the establishment understands this as well…

Given a few more years, the Liberty Movement will indeed prevail in the struggle for the “infowar”.  Naysayers who claimed we were merely an ineffective and irrelevant peripheral of society are now faced with a strong and growing minority which has the power to swing state and local elections, as we did in 2012, simply by refusing to vote for oath breaking Republicans, sending the message that if the Republican party ever wants to win again, they had better run honest Constitutionalists.  Those who claimed our message was “insane conspiracy theory” must now explain the indefinite detention and rendition provisions of the NDAA, the government approved unleashing of 30,000 surveillance drones in American skies, the Obama Administration's assassination list which includes U.S. citizens, and the push for gun registration and confiscation which is already beginning to take place in some states.

How did we know what was coming?  Was it intuition or lucky conjecture?  Neither.  All we had to do was look at the trends of the day and use logic to discern the most likely outcome.

Our concerns, which were once called “fringe”, are now going mainstream.  We were right, they were wrong.  Though, I wish we had been wrong…

Just as the public is on a shrinking timeline, so are the elites.  For every burst forward in our efforts to wake up the population to the loss of their freedoms and heritage, they must speed up their plans to gain economic and political supremacy.  The harder you pull on the ends of a frayed rope in opposite directions, the sooner it is going to snap.

Today, as never before, I believe our culture has reached the breaking point, which is why the SPLC has pushed their attacks on the Liberty Movement into overdrive with manipulative media hit pieces like this:

As well as their latest propaganda piece “The Year In Hate And Extremism”:

The SPLC plays the role of the frantic watchman, crying out at the approach of the Mongol hordes, but their childish and ill conceived methods continue to expose their true intentions.  Is the Liberty Movement preparing for war?  No, but we are preparing to defend ourselves.  Here are the SPLC assertions of why we are ready to fight, followed by the real reasons behind our preparations…

1)  Because Obama Is Half Black?

No.  Obama could be neon green and we couldn’t care less.  The SPLC attempts to equate the growth of “patriot groups” with the election of the first black president, while leaving out much more likely catalysts including our current economic spiral (which they often refer to as “conspiracy theory”), or the Obama Administration’s expansion and even application of numerous unconstitutional provisions, some of which were launched by the Bush Administration.

How does the SPLC explain the majority of the Liberty Movement’s staunch opposition to the Romney Campaign if all we cared about was race?  How do they reconcile the fact that we are just as critical of the Republican elite as we are of the Democrats?  What about the reality that many of our organizations (like Oath Keepers) are made up of numerous races and nationalities?

They never do.  They simply ignore this information as if it is not pertinent to the issue.  The truth is, Obama is a middle man, a mascot, an easily replaced muppet.  He is not our primary interest, and his color is meaningless.  The international banks that funded his campaign and whose members occupy numerous positions within the White House, though, ARE our primary concern.

2)  Because We Are Afraid Of An Economic Collapse That Will Never Come?

The SPLC refers to almost everything as “conspiracy theory” because they hope that the average American is too stupid to question their rhetoric.  Calling someone a “conspiracy theorist” is the modern equivalent of accusing a person of being mentally ill; the goal is to inoculate the public against anything they have to say before they say it, even if it is the unbridled truth. 

The SPLC has consistently shrugged off economic concerns as “paranoia”, but they never qualify their statements.  Years ago I openly challenged Mark Potok and the whole of the SPLC to a debate on the health of the U.S. economy, and I reassert that challenge today.  If they think our concerns are unfounded and a source of paranoia, then they should be willing to defend their position.  I believe our financial system is on the fast track to collapse for quite a few reasons, including the fact that:

Our official national debt stands at $16.6 trillion.  In 2008, the national debt was around $10 Trillion, meaning, we’ve added over $6 trillion in only 5 years.  (Gee, is it possible that this has pissed Americans off more than Obama’s ethnicity?) 

Real national debt including entitlement programs and future obligations is estimated between $60 Trillion and $120 Trillion. 

Our official debt to GDP ratio (the amount of capital our country generates versus what it owes) stands at 102%.  Historically, when a country crosses the 100% mark in its debt to GDP, there is a marked chance of economic crisis.  If you count all of the programs and entitlements that the Federal Government doesn’t include in its “official” arithmetic, our debt to GDP ratio is actually closer to 400%.  This means an economic crisis is ASSURED.

The Labor Department, using what they call “adjusted numbers” places unemployment at 7.9%.  Real unemployment including U6 measurements (those people who are underemployed, and those people who have been unemployed for so long they no longer receive benefits and are no longer counted by the government) stands at over 20%.

In 2009, 32 million Americans were enrolled in food stamps.  Today, that number has grown to 48 million.  That’s a 50% increase in only 4 years.

The number of people on standard disability has hit a record of 9 million, and has grown every month for the past 192 months.

For the past four years I have pointed out that China, our largest foreign creditor, only needs to do two things before dumping the dollar as the world reserve currency – find a consumer market source to replace the U.S., and, spread it’s own currency around the globe to create a viable alternative to the greenback. 

Today, China has announced a full blown transition into a consumer based economy and has established bilateral trade agreements with enough developing nations to easily replace the U.S. as an export market. 

This past month, China announced a massive “urbanization project” in which they will sell over $6 trillion in Yuan denominated bonds worldwide.  China has also surpassed the U.S. for the first time ever as the world’s largest trade market, meaning, the Yuan will now be more sought after than the Dollar as a global trade mechanism.  The Chinese are nearly ready to dump the dollar, causing an international chain reaction that will brutally devalue our currency. 

I think our economic worries are clearly reasonable…

3)  Because We Are Paranoid Over Unfounded Threats Of Martial Law?

In the calm before any great war, there is always an escalation of arms on both sides of the conflict.  Anyone who has carefully studied the history of modern warfare KNOWS an escalation when they see one.  At the same time, anyone who has studied the history of citizen disarmament knows that government restriction and confiscation of personal firearms almost always leads to genocide.  Over the past decade, we have seen blatant indications that domestic agencies of the Federal Government are in the midst of arms stockpiling, and, in the past two months, they are pushing harder than ever before to reduce the defensive capabilities of the American public.

The Department Of Homeland Security has in only a few years placed orders for ammunition totaling at least 1.6 billion rounds, and new orders indicate they may be accumulating over 2 billion rounds.  The DHS has initiated a disinformation campaign through the mainstream media claiming that this ammunition stockpile, which is to be delivered over the course of five years, is for “training purposes only”.  Here is the reality…

First, by the department’s own numbers, training and qualification exercises taking place in three facilities nationwide use a total of 15 – 20 million rounds of ammo yearly.  This means that if the DHS claims are true, they have ordered enough ammo to last a minimum of 75 years!  No government agency plans this far ahead.

Second, the DHS and most federal and state law enforcement agencies DO NOT use hollow point pistol ammo and expensive Sierra Match King hollow point sniper rounds for “training”.  Anyone who knows anything about combat simulation training knows that you use the cheapest plinking ammo you can find, and this includes the government.  The ammo purchased by the DHS is used for one thing only; killing people. 

Third, if this ammo is being used only for non-threatening purposes, then why is the DHS now redacting order requests in a ploy to hide what they are purchasing?

On top of this, why does the DHS need mine resistant armored vehicles? 

Or bullet resistant road booths?

Why is the DHS using training targets featuring children and pregnant women?  Why has the Federal Government put plans into motion to release 30,000 drones above our heads?  Why have they instituted the passage of the indefinite detention provisions of the NDAA which can be used to revoke the civil rights of anyone deemed an “enemy combatant” by the executive branch, including American citizens?  Why has Obama bypassed the Treason Clause of the U.S. Constitution in order to greenlight assassinations of American citizens?  Why has Attorney General Eric Holder stated that predator drones have not been ruled out as a weapon against American citizens on American soil?  Why has a branch of the military, Northcom, been deployed domestically in the U.S.?  Who are they here to fight?

The government is telling us, right to our faces, that they plan to use extraneous force against us, and where else would this force be initiated on such a scale except during martial law?  The extensive militarization of any domestic government agency requires as a response the extensive armament of the citizenry, otherwise, there is no deterrent to tyranny.

4) Because We Refuse To Accept That The World Is Changing Without Us?

This argument is based on a series of lies, the first one being that American culture needs to “progress with the times” and shake off the dead skin of old and “unpopular” principles.  Let’s set the record straight…

Some principles, like the liberties embodied in natural law and outlined in the U.S. Constitution, NEVER become outdated.  They exist in the heart of mankind, and will remain as long as humanity remains.  They cannot be erased, and they cannot be undone.  They are inherent and eternal. 

They can, however, be oppressed by those who seek to dominate the lives of others.  This is what the establishment today calls “progress”.  Their version of social order is not new, nor is it even clever.  It is archaic, and has taken many forms, including oligarchy, aristocracy, mercantilism, monarchy, totalitarianism, despotism, fascism, socialism, communism, globalism, etc., etc.  The goal is always the same; centralize as much power as possible into as few hands as possible while making the enslaved population as collectivized and dependent as possible. 

The Liberty Movement is not some dying vestige of America’s past clinging to an antiquated philosophy.  We are the new wave; the messengers of an ideal of freedom that in the grand scheme of history has been around for only a blink of an eye.  Constitutional liberty IS the progress that humanity has been waiting for.  We have only been led astray by those who would sell us on our own bondage. 

The SPLC and others within the establishment accuse the Liberty Movement of arming for conflict against the government.  I am here to tell them that is EXACTLY what we are doing.  We are arming because the establishment is arming against us.  Yes, we are a threat, but only to political and corporate criminals who use subversion and violence to wrest freedom from the hands of good people.  I am not afraid to openly admit it.  I and many others will fight against any measure or man that seeks to undermine the rights of the people or destroy the founding principles of this nation. 

We will not allow engineered economic collapse to go unpunished.  We will not allow internationalists to subdue American sovereignty.  We will not allow national gun registration or confiscation.  We will not allow martial law to be instituted.  We will not allow American citizens to be imprisoned or assassinated without trial.  We will not allow any presidential administration, black or white, Republican or Democrat, to become a De facto dictatorship with no accountability to the public.   

Regardless of what they might say about us in the future, these are the reasons why we will fight, and our pledges to resist are not empty assertions.  We will stop the course of tyranny from completing in this country and in this era, one way or another.  If this makes us “extremists”, or “terrorists”, then so be it.  I, for one, am tired of the long running game of lies and reserved rhetoric.  They know a fight is coming, and we know a fight is coming.  Let’s just admit it and be done with it.  Their greatest weakness is that they have to use deceit, propaganda, media monopoly, and false flag violence in order to convince the public that they are the “right side”.  All we have to do is continue telling the truth, and stand fast…
485  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / NYT article... on: March 14, 2013, 12:19:44 PM
I actually did post this earlier - not sure if it was in this thread or not.  Regardless - very interesting that the NYT will even publish this story, considering the fact that they tried to whitewash the Holocaust during WWII until the very end, when it could not be denied any longer.
486  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / The ancient Greeks and homosexuality... on: March 12, 2013, 12:39:26 PM
The author of this article is both cherry-picking quotations from the ancient Greeks, ignoring the large body of artwork by them which often depicts sexual intercourse between males, and is essentially contorting himself to make his argument.  It is true that the concept of a homosexual life-long union recognized by the state did not exist until very recently.  That certainly does NOT make it "unnatural."  While I have my reservations about gay "marriage" as opposed to civil unions, ultimately the state should not be involved in granting licenses for marriage at all, nor was it until very recently.  Nor was there the issue of treatment for tax purposes. 

Homosexual behavior has now been observed and verified in 100s of animal species, and in many cases these male-male pairings last for life.  Ask any farmer, and he will tell you that there are 'homosexual" bulls, goats and sheep, who prefer to have intercourse with the same sex, and show very little if any interest in the opposite sex.  This notion of the behavior being "unnatural" is simply false - and it is used in a tortuous manner to justify prohibiting such relationships by those who want to do so for whatever reasons, just as there were plenty of Biblical justifications offered to justify slavery, up until quite recently.

I take my own life experience as a great teacher, and include in this what I have observed over my 50+ years on this earth.  Anthropologists will tell you that the percentage of homosexual individuals in human society has remained constant for as long as history has been recorded on such things.  Animal data appear to show that this is also true in other species.  If this were a genetic defect or aberration, by the way, one would expect that it would be bred out of the population over time.  It clearly has not been.  These tortuous justifications for condemning homosexuality are tiresome.
487  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Why We MUST GET ANSWERS on Benghazigate from this administration... on: March 11, 2013, 03:21:28 PM
Excellent article from the always-superb Frank Gaffney:
488  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: US Economics, the stock market , and other investment/savings strategies on: March 08, 2013, 10:46:24 AM
EXACTLY, GM.  Obviously these people trying to put a smiley face on this economy HAVE a job, and are either completely out-of-touch with what is going on around them, completely ignorant with regard to Obama's intentions, or have some incentive to try to "talk up" the economy.  I've said it before - but it is blindingly obvious to me - in my conversations with small business owners across this country every day as part of my job - that things are NOT getting better, and they are NOT GOING to get better until this administration is gone.
489  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Wesbury... on: March 06, 2013, 01:40:55 PM
Crafty -

I don't disagree with your essential point about seeking Truth.  However, having a track record and being honest doesn't change the fact that, as Aristotle so aptly put it: "A is A."  Wesbury's analysis of this economy flies in the face of reason.  He may be honest, but if so, he is deluding himself.
490  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / More common sense from Walter Williams - as usual... on: March 06, 2013, 11:09:36 AM
Minimum Wage Mandates: The Tools of Racists Everywhere

Posted By Walter Williams On March 6, 2013 -

Let’s work through an example. Suppose 100 yards of fence could be built using one of two techniques. You could hire three low-skilled workers for $15 each, or you could hire one high-skilled worker for $40. Either way, you get the same 100 yards of fence built. If you sought maximum profits, which production technique would you employ? I’m guessing that you’d hire one high-skilled worker and pay him $40 rather than hire three low-skilled workers for $15 each. Your labor costs would be $40 rather than $45.

Suppose the high-skilled worker came into your office and demanded $55 a day. What would be your response? You’d probably tell him to go play in the traffic and hire the three low-skilled workers. After all, hiring the three low-skilled workers for $45, to get the same 100 yards of fence, would be cheaper than the $55 a day now demanded by the high-skilled worker.

The high-skilled worker is not stupid and knows that’s exactly what you’d do. He will do a bit of organizing first, convincing decent, caring people that low-skilled workers are being exploited and not earning a living wage and that Congress should enact a minimum wage in the fencing industry of at least $20. After Congress enacts a minimum wage of $20, what then happens to the chances of a high-skilled worker’s successfully demanding $55 a day? They go up because he’s used the coercive powers of Congress to price his competition out of the market. Because of the minimum wage, it would cost you $60 to use the three low-skilled workers.

The minimum wage not only discriminates against low-skilled workers but also is one of the most effective tools of racists everywhere. Our nation’s first minimum wage came in the form of the Davis-Bacon Act of 1931. During the legislative debate over the Davis-Bacon Act, which sets minimum wages on federally financed or assisted construction projects, racist intents were obvious.

Rep. John Cochran, D-Mo., supported the bill, saying he had “received numerous complaints in recent months about Southern contractors employing low-paid colored mechanics getting work and bringing the employees from the South.” Rep. Miles Allgood, D-Ala., complained: “That contractor has cheap colored labor that he transports, and he puts them in cabins, and it is labor of that sort that is in competition with white labor throughout the country.” Rep. William Upshaw, D-Ga., spoke of the “superabundance or large aggregation of Negro labor.” American Federation of Labor President William Green said, “Colored labor is being sought to demoralize wage rates.” The Davis-Bacon Act, still on the books today, virtually eliminated blacks from federally financed construction projects when it was passed.

During South Africa’s apartheid era, the secretary of its avowedly racist Building Workers’ Union, Gert Beetge, said, “There is no job reservation left in the building industry, and in the circumstances, I support the rate for the job (minimum wage) as the second-best way of protecting our white artisans.” The South African Nursing Council condemned low wages received by black nurses as unfair. Some nurses said they wouldn’t accept wage increases until the wages of black nurses were raised. The South African Economic and Wage Commission of 1925 reported that “while definite exclusion of the Natives from the more remunerative fields of employment by law has not been urged upon us, the same result would follow a certain use of the powers of the Wage Board under the Wage Act of 1925, or of other wage-fixing legislation. The method would be to fix a minimum rate for an occupation or craft so high that no Native would be likely to be employed.”

Whether support for minimum wages is motivated by good or by evil, its effect is to cut off the bottom rungs of the economic ladder for the most disadvantaged worker and lower the cost of discrimination.
491  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Grover Norquist and Suhail Khan Ban Robert Spencer From Receiving CPAC Award... on: March 06, 2013, 07:26:31 AM
This just in - Spencer will in fact NOT be allowed to receive the award for favorite blog site. Contains very salient details about Norquist and Khan which many here may not be aware of:
492  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: US Economics, the stock market , and other investment/savings strategies on: March 05, 2013, 08:54:12 PM
This guy Wesbury can throw out all the statistics he wants.  He is straining very hard to find a silver lining in my opinion.  Plenty of other economic indicators are extremely poor - for instance - the number of working-age males actually in the work force.  He also fails to address the staggering debt we continue to pile up, which in my opinion makes an economic collapse inevitable.  Wesbury's analysis defies gravity.  It is contrary to everything I see in my daily work with 100s of small businesses who buy accounting software.  The overwhelming majority of businesses with fewer than 100 employees are struggling to stay in business and cutting costs to the bone.  Obamacare will force them to lay off workers.  Not to mention what happens if the minimum wage in fact gets raised to $9.00/hour.  This economy is on the proverbial water slide to hell, and no amount of strained sugar-coating will convince me otherwise.
493  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Jihad? What Jihad? - American media ignore incidents, threat... on: March 05, 2013, 03:20:41 PM
Jihad? What Jihad? Media Shrug At Islamic Threat

Posted 03/01/2013 06:44 PM ET - Investor's Business Daily

Homeland Insecurity: The attorney general says the threat from local jihadists is now worse than terrorist plots hatched overseas. He warned Americans not to grow "complacent." Tell it to the media.

The major news gatekeepers have ignored the jihadist element in no fewer than four recent cases of sensational killings of non-Muslims by mostly young Muslim men inside the U.S., including:

• Yusuf Ibrahim, a 27-year-old Egyptian immigrant who on Feb. 5 allegedly beheaded two Coptic Christians living in New Jersey.
• Ali Syed, a 20-year-old Muslim who allegedly randomly killed three people in Southern California on Feb. 18 before killing himself.
• Ammar Asim Faruq Harris, a 26-year-old reported black Muslim convert who on Feb. 21 is said to have killed three people in Las Vegas.
• Ali Salim, a 44-year-old Pakistan-born doctor who is accused of raping and killing a pregnant woman and her 9-month-old fetus last year in his Ohio office.

This rash of homicides by Muslims has triggered a giant media yawn, despite telltale signs of jihadist motive. Jihad? What jihad? Reporters seemed to be collectively shrugging in another fit of extreme PC.

Here's another key piece of information denied the average American watching the evening news: the majority of convicted terrorists in the U.S. are American citizens. A study found the terrorist threat is increasingly in our backyard.

Equally stunning, more than half of the 171 terror convicts analyzed by the London-based Henry Jackson Society are college-educated. Many are black converts. Nearly half were born and raised here, according to the report prefaced by former CIA director Mike Hayden.

Yet they want to kill fellow Americans simply because they believe that's what their creed tells them to do. But instead of confronting this homegrown threat, our society is fig-leafing it, even glorifying it.

Even in red-state Texas, educators are indoctrinating kids into the Islamic faith. At Lumberton High School, a geography class was recently told to dress up in Islamic garb — including burqas — and refer to the 9/11 hijackers not as terrorists but as "freedom fighters."

This isn't an isolated event. There's a coordinated effort by leftist do-gooders and multiculturalists to de-link Islam from violence and terror and rewrite history.
When educators, journalists and politicians hear no Islamic violence, see no Islamic violence and report no Islamic violence, beware, it's Sept. 10, 2001, again.
494  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: We the Well-armed People (Gun rights stuff ) on: March 04, 2013, 11:26:15 PM
For your consideration.  I believe that this man's essential thesis is correct.  Obama is a Marxist.  This can be demonstrated easily and has been documented quite well by Stanley Kurtz in his book "Radical-in-Chief."  If you watch Obama's actions instead of listening to his rhetoric (which at least half of Americans fail to do, unfortunately) his ideology is crystal-clear.  See the link below.  I no longer think this is far-fetched:

495  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: We the Well-armed People (Gun rights stuff ) on: March 04, 2013, 07:55:27 PM
Crafty - I was referring to confiscation.  I think you underestimate Obama and his administration - filled with Marxists, anti-Semites and socialist utopians.  He will over-reach and face armed resistance if it is tried.  I was not suggesting that it would be wise to use this tactic for gun registration or magazine/weapons bans.
496  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Obama wants to disarm Americans? on: March 04, 2013, 07:43:30 PM
Oh, puhleeese.  That could NEVER happen here in America.  No politician would be dumb enough to try that.  Then again...
This administration is in for a VERY RUDE awakening if they try this - and I am not convinced they won't.
497  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Frank Gaffney on Obama's National Security Carelessness... on: March 04, 2013, 04:10:54 PM
Putting Politics Over Public Safety

Posted by Frank Gaffney - Center for Security Policy - March 4, 2013

An ominous pattern has been developing, particularly of late:  The Obama administration seems determined to subordinate public safety to political expediency.  If a course-correction is not effected promptly, the result is predictable.  Americans will be needlessly harmed, and perhaps killed.

The most recent and obvious example was the release last week of hundreds of reportedly dangerous illegal aliens from federal detention.  The rationale given was that the sequestration-dictated budget cuts made their incarceration unaffordable.  The White House has disavowed any involvement in this reckless decision.  But it was certainly in keeping with the President’s erstwhile mantra that extremely dire repercussions – including the disruption of critical public services – would flow from a fiscal train-wreck that he has refused either to acknowledge devising or to stave off.

Even more worrying is the erosion of public safety inherent in the administration’s “fundamental transformation” of our national security.  Mr. Obama’s own civilian and military leaders have warned that the effect of the $500 billion cut over ten years impelled by sequestration, coming on top of the nearly $800 billion in reductions in Pentagon spending that have been previously ordered, will be to “hollow out” the military.  History teaches that when we disarm in this fashion, others respond aggressively – at the expense of our vital interests and at huge costs, both in fiscal terms and in a much more precious currency: lives.

Then, there are the reductions Mr. Obama seems determined to make, unilaterally if necessary, in our nuclear deterrent forces.  The President fancies that he is “leading from in front” in this instance, but not one other nuclear power is following him towards a “world without nuclear weapons.”  In fact, in the absence of a safe, reliable and credible American “nuclear umbrella,” it is inevitable that global proliferation and instability will increase.  That will scarcely enhance our public safety.

The poster child for putting political considerations ahead of prudent security practice is John Brennan, the President’s homeland security and counter-terrorism advisor whom he hopes the Senate will shortly approve as the next Director of the Central Intelligence Agency.  Nothing could be more ill-advised.

The case against Brennan’s nomination has numerous elements.  Members of the Senate’s Intelligence Committee have been rightly concerned about his apparent involvement in myriad leaks of highly classified information.  These include the compromise of a most sensitive joint UK-Saudi intelligence operation that prevented a sophisticated terrorist attack and the sharing with Hollywood filmmakers of sensitive details concerning the raid that killed Osama bin Laden.

Brennan also seems to have been party to lying to legislators, for whom he has ill-concealed contempt.  Notably, it seems he was involved with an interagency “Deputies Committee” that, in the immediate aftermath of the murderous September 11th terrorist attack in Benghazi, reworked after-action briefers’ “talking points” – resulting in the unfounded claim that it was precipitated by an offensive video, not the attackers’ lust for jihad.

Speaking of jihad, John Brennan’s failure to comprehend this term is emblematic of the most important reason for the Senate to regard the prospect of him leading the CIA as a prescription for still further endangering of public safety.  In a May 2010 address, Brennan declared that: “Jihad is a holy struggle, a legitimate tenet of Islam, meaning to purify oneself or one’s community.”

In fact, Muslims who adhere to the orthodox and totalitarian Islamic doctrine they call shariah know jihad to be a legitimate tenet of their belief system, alright, but that it means holy war against the unbelievers.  They understand “purification” to be about ensuring the triumph of shariah, both locally and globally.

Further egregious strategic errors flow from this fundamental, and potentially fatal, misjudgment by John Brennan and the administration he serves:  The avowedly jihadist and shariah-imposing Muslim Brotherhood has been legitimated, empowered, funded, armed and emboldened.  On Brennan’s watch, training materials and trainers that make clear such Islamists are unalterably our enemies have been purged government-wide.  And Muslim Brothers have effectively been made the arbiters of who and what shall be used in future training to “counter violent extremism” underwritten by federal funds.  The peril to public safety posed by such decisions is obvious.

John Brennan is, at best, willfully blind about the most immediate national security threat of our time.  At worst, he has spent the past four years enabling its ascendancy abroad and its growth andinfluence operations here at home.

The Brennan nomination has engendered bipartisan opposition on other counts.  The Left opposes his past involvement in so-called “enhanced interrogation techniques” and his current role in the lethal use of drones.  With respect to the former, the Intelligence Committee should carefully consider the CIA’s impending response to a controversial $40 million study commissioned by that panel’s majority before bringing Brennan’s confirmation to a vote.  And with respect to the latter, Republicansupport for such drone strikes should not obscure – or be allowed to minimize – the unacceptability of the nominee’s myriad other defects.

President Obama’s record of putting his partisan political interests ahead of the best interests and even the safety of the American people is unconscionable.  The Senate must not condone this practice, let alone contribute to it, by confirming one of its prime-movers, John Brennan, as the next CIA Director.

TAGGED WITH → John Brennan • Muslim Brotherhood • nuclear weapons • Sequestration
Frank Gaffney, Jr.
Frank Gaffney is the Founder and President of the Center for Security Policy in Washington, D.C. Under Mr. Gaffney's leadership, the Center has been nationally and internationally recognized as a resource for timely, informed and penetrating analyses of foreign and defense policy matters. Mr. Gaffney formerly acted as the Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Policy during the Reagan Administration, following four years of service as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Nuclear Forces and Arms Control Policy. Previously, he was a professional staff member on the Senate Armed Services Committee under the chairmanship of the late Senator John Tower, and a national security legislative aide to the late Senator Henry M. Jackson.
498  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer at CPAC... on: March 04, 2013, 03:46:34 PM
The absurdity of this decision is explained by the fact that both Geller and Spencer have been highly critical of Grover Norquist, who sits on the board of the organization that puts on this conference.  Despite the fact that for the last 3 years these two have had a standing-room-only audience, Grover Norquist and his lackey Suhail Khan (a Muslim Brotherhood operative) want to silence both Geller and Spencer.  Norquist has been responsible for multiple Muslim Brotherhood-connected individuals infiltrating the highest levels of our government, and very few Republicans - such as Michele Bachmann and her co-signers - have raised any questions about this.  Norquist is untouchable in their minds.  Frank Gaffney has also exposed Norquists nefarious activities along these lines at his site - Center for Security Policy.  He has a whole video series detailing the infiltration.

The irony of all this is that a poll sent out to CPAC attendees this year which asked which of 20 conservative web sites was their favorite, resulted in a huge margin of victory for Robert Spencer's  Spencer intends to attend to receive his award, and hopes to have the opportunity to greet both Norquist and Khan, who evidently despise him and Geller - for obvious reasons.
499  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Media Issues on: March 04, 2013, 09:32:08 AM

I know that this does not need repeating, but if this were a Republican administration, the media would be burning the Commander-in-Chief at the stake. Instead, these tools continue to polish his knob in an advanced case of Stockholm Syndrome. They sacrifice their integrity, their objectivity, and their principles for an enemy administration whose collectivist goals they share.

Any decent American journalist would have run the emails referred to in this article on the front page. But instead, they cover for the Stalinist tactics of the thug in the White House.

Where are those goosestepping feminazis?

Beat The Press NY Post, March 3, 212
As coverage of last week’s flare-up between Bob Woodward and the White House devolved into the granular parsing of words and implications and extrapolations and possible intent, the larger point was roundly missed: the increasing pressure that White House correspondents feel when dealing with the Obama administration — to follow their narrative, to be properly deferential (!), to react to push-back by politely sitting down and shutting up.

“The whole Woodward thing doesn’t surprise me at all,” says David Brody, chief political correspondent for CBN News. “I can tell you categorically that there’s always been, right from the get-go of this administration, an overzealous sensitivity to any push-back from any media outlet.”

A brief recap: After the Washington Post ran a Woodward op-ed in which he claimed that the administration was “moving the goalposts” on the eve of the potential sequester, the veteran journalist went on to assert that economic adviser Gene Sperling said, in an e-mail, “I think you will regret staking out this claim.”

While Woodward spent a lot of the week on cable news going back and forth on whether that was a threat, few reporters, if any, asked why a high-level administration official spent so much time — Sperling admittedly shouted at Woodward during a 30-minute phone call, followed by that e-mail — attempting to control an opinion expressed in a newspaper.

The answer, say former and current White House correspondents, is simple: This administration is more skilled and disciplined than any other in controlling the narrative, using social media to circumnavigate the press. On the flip side, our YouTube culture means even the slightest gaffe can be devastating, and so you have an army of aides and staffers helicoptering over reporters.

Finally, this week, reporters are pushing back. Even Jonathan Alter — who frequently appears on the Obama-friendly MSNBC — came forward to say he, too, had been treated horribly by the administration for writing something they didn’t like.

“There is a kind of threatening tone that, from time to time — not all the time — comes out of these guys,” Alter said this week. During the 2008 campaign swing through Berlin, Alter said that future White House press secretary Robert Gibbs disinvited him from a dinner between Obama and the press corps over it.

“I was told ‘Don’t come,’ in a fairly abusive e-mail,” he said. “[It] made what Gene Sperling wrote [to Woodward] look like patty-cake.”

“I had a young reporter asking tough, important questions of an Obama Cabinet secretary,” says one DC veteran. “She was doing her job, and they were trying to bully her. In an e-mail, they called her the vilest names — bitch, c--t, a--hole.” He complained and was told the matter would be investigated: “They were hemming and hawing, saying, ‘We’ll look into it.’ Nothing happened.”

Posted by Pamela Geller on Sunday, March 03, 2013 at 10:23 PM in Obama's 2nd Term
500  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / DOJ memo... on: February 26, 2013, 09:28:44 PM
Anyone who fails to understand that we are dealing with a tyrannical government with Obama and his administration is either ignorant or a fool or both.  Unfortunately, the Republican leadership appears to feel that there is no political upside to opposing this president.  We are living in ominous times.
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