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201  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / CA Bullet Train might not be made in America on: November 12, 2016, 10:33:28 AM


http://www.capoliticalreview.com/capoliticalnewsandviews/governors-bullet-trains-might-not-be-made-in-america/

So, what is the argument here?  That we should pay more?
202  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Shipwrecks in the Black Sea-- amazing! on: November 12, 2016, 09:48:14 AM


Amazing!!!

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/12/science/shipwrecks-black-sea-archaeology.html?emc=edit_th_20161112&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=49641193&_r=0
203  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Trump Administration on: November 11, 2016, 10:37:01 PM
I have mixed feeling about this-- what about States Rights to exercise the police power?   What about the laboratory of democracy? 

Let's take this to the Well-Armed People thread.
204  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: November 11, 2016, 09:34:41 PM
Apparently Trump was too fact unaware to realize that the plan passed by Ryan and the House included protection of pre-existing  conditions.
 
205  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Let them go! Time for the national divorce on: November 11, 2016, 07:00:32 PM
National divorce?  Seriously?  Perhaps you guys are getting a tad too wrapped up with some attention whores? 

It is real simple.  The freedom of this country includes the freedom to leave. 
206  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Pravda on the Hudson befuddled on: November 11, 2016, 03:07:40 PM
To our readers,

When the biggest political story of the year reached a dramatic and unexpected climax late Tuesday night, our newsroom turned on a dime and did what it has done for nearly two years — cover the 2016 election with agility and creativity.

After such an erratic and unpredictable election there are inevitable questions: Did Donald Trump’s sheer unconventionality lead us and other news outlets to underestimate his support among American voters? What forces and strains in America drove this divisive election and outcome? Most important, how will a president who remains a largely enigmatic figure actually govern when he takes office?

As we reflect on this week’s momentous result, and the months of reporting and polling that preceded it, we aim to rededicate ourselves to the fundamental mission of Times journalism. That is to report America and the world honestly, without fear or favor, striving always to understand and reflect all political perspectives and life experiences in the stories that we bring to you. It is also to hold power to account, impartially and unflinchingly. We believe we reported on both candidates fairly during the presidential campaign. You can rely on The New York Times to bring the same fairness, the same level of scrutiny, the same independence to our coverage of the new president and his team.

We cannot deliver the independent, original journalism for which we are known without the loyalty of our subscribers. We want to take this opportunity, on behalf of all Times journalists, to thank you for that loyalty.

Sincerely,

 
Arthur O. Sulzberger Jr.
Publisher
 
207  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Trump improvises and adapts on: November 11, 2016, 03:05:45 PM

By Gerard Baker and
Monica Langley
Updated Nov. 11, 2016 3:33 p.m. ET
WSJ

NEW YORK—President-elect Donald Trump said that, after conferring with President Barack Obama, he would consider leaving in place certain parts of the Affordable Care Act, an indication of possible compromise after a campaign in which he pledged repeatedly to repeal the 2010 health law.

In his first interview since his election earlier this week, Mr. Trump said one priority was moving “quickly” on the president’s signature health initiative, which he argued has become so unworkable and expensive that “you can’t use it.”

Yet, Mr. Trump also showed a willingness to preserve at least two provisions of the health law after the president asked him to reconsider repealing it during their meeting at the White House on Thursday.

Mr. Trump said he favors keeping the prohibition against insurers denying coverage because of patients’ existing conditions, and a provision that allows parents to provide years of additional coverage for children on their insurance policies.
208  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Let them go! Time for the national divorce on: November 11, 2016, 02:49:34 PM
This was the United States of America BEFORE our Constitution.

http://www.usconstitution.net/articles.html

BTW, note well this:

"Articles of Confederation and perpetual Union between the States of New Hampshire, Massachusetts bay, Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia."

"PERPETUAL UNION." This is the union to which our Constitution refers with its opening words "In order to form a more perfect union"

Thus the argument asserting the right to secede, as was asserted in 1860-65, was mistaken as a matter of law
209  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Nepotism on: November 11, 2016, 02:47:52 PM
Interesting and timely.

Please post in the American History thread on the SC&H forum as well.
210  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Pence takes over transition from Christie on: November 11, 2016, 02:45:59 PM
Good call!


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/12/us/politics/trump-cabinet.html?emc=edit_na_20161111&nlid=49641193&ref=cta&_r=0
211  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Donald the Badass on: November 11, 2016, 02:30:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKG7CZfC0JQ
212  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Iran's Death to America on: November 11, 2016, 09:42:10 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO19_z3374E
213  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / The Two Speech Rule and Filibusters on: November 11, 2016, 09:16:13 AM
http://dailysignal.com/2016/11/10/how-republicans-could-overcome-filibusters-by-senate-democrats/?utm_source=TDS_Email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=MorningBell&mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiT1dFNVltRXhNVEExT0daayIsInQiOiJBTmNpUm9vMlFJMWtoaUpRd0p0akRXZ1RBc3Z6OGlGY0Y3aXBNOVFQZVNsM2lmWFZqOThGSyt3U3V1clVjY0M1ek5oWDhsdmI3WjdBUHRGaEFDbnQzK0kwZVpsUURBMHV4NGl5RkVVc3pDdz0ifQ%3D%3D
214  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Way Forward for the American Creed on: November 10, 2016, 10:07:37 PM
 A lot of wisdom in that!!!
215  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: November 10, 2016, 10:06:06 PM
As this thread presumably winds down, I would like to thank one and all for a fine job.  I like to think that perhaps our efforts here contributed in some small way to the outcome.

Well done gentlemen!

God bless America!
216  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / WSJ: With Trump, Asia's nuclear crisis expands on: November 10, 2016, 10:02:12 PM
For the record, I do not think this piece describes Trump's position fairly or accurately.  That said, he does need to get clearer in his thinking and articulation than he has been so far.  This is quite important.


With Trump, Asia’s Nuclear Crisis Expands
Next to North Korea and fearing U.S. abandonment, South Korea and Japan weigh their own options.
In this June 23, 2016, file photo, people watch a TV news channel airing an image of North Korea's ballistic missile launch published in North Korea's Rodong Sinmun newspaper at the Seoul Railway Station in Seoul, South Korea. ENLARGE
In this June 23, 2016, file photo, people watch a TV news channel airing an image of North Korea's ballistic missile launch published in North Korea's Rodong Sinmun newspaper at the Seoul Railway Station in Seoul, South Korea. Photo: Associated Press
By David Feith
Nov. 10, 2016 12:10 p.m. ET
4 COMMENTS

Seoul

The nuclear crisis in Northeast Asia was bound to be one of the most dangerous challenges facing the next U.S. president, no matter who won on Tuesday. With Donald Trump’s surprise victory, though, it could metastasize in dramatic ways: If you thought North Korea’s nuclear march was disconcerting, consider that South Korea and Japan may now pursue nuclear programs of their own, raising the risks and stakes of war not only with North Korea but China too.

Mr. Trump repeatedly endorsed such a nuclear proliferation cascade on the campaign trail. “At some point we have to say—you know what?—we’re better off if Japan protects itself against this maniac in North Korea, we’re better off, frankly, if South Korea is going to start to protect itself,” he said. This was a corollary to his threats to pull U.S. troops from Japan and South Korea, where they’ve helped secure peace for more than six decades, if those countries don’t start spending dramatically more on their own defense.

It’s possible Mr. Trump will drop his enthusiasm for South Korean and Japanese nuclearization upon entering the Oval Office. His campaign advisers tended to ignore the subject in public statements, likely a reflection of the decades-old bipartisan consensus against nuclear proliferation in Washington. But as with other issues, the approach of President Trump will depend on who he brings into the White House for advice, and whether he listens to them.

Cheong Seong-chang will be calling for South Korean nuclearization either way. Speaking in Seoul last week, before America voted, the soft-spoken scholar and former government advisor argued that his country needs nukes to defend itself, that a majority of his countrymen agree, and that skeptics in government will embrace the view sooner or later. Sooner if a Trump administration backs it, he says, but within a decade regardless.

Two months ago Mr. Cheong and other security, diplomatic and engineering experts launched the Nuclear Research Group for Korea to study Seoul’s options. A similar group was established in the early 1990s, he says, but disbanded within a few years “under heavy social pressure” because it was “politically incorrect” to broach the nuclear issue. Today that taboo is gone.

Since January North Korea has conducted two nuclear tests, its fourth and fifth overall, and likely moved closer to a hydrogen-bomb capability that threatens to “wipe out all of Seoul,” Mr. Cheong notes. It has also tested more than 20 ballistic missiles, at least one of which could threaten the U.S. homeland, and completed its first successful submarine and road-mobile launches. Analysts figure it could have 100 bombs by 2020, before the first Trump term is up.

Mr. Cheong argues that at this point North Korea won’t let its nuclear program be rolled back diplomatically, “no matter how many sanctions we impose.” China’s policy of protecting its ally from collapse “will remain unchanged.” And when Pyongyang inevitably acquires a credible capability to hit the U.S. with nuclear-tipped missiles, “the U.S. will have no choice but to come to the negotiating table” and sue for peace.

This will yield, “if not a total abandonment of South Korea,” then a bargain aimed at mere containment: “If North Korea has 50 nuclear weapons, and promises not to build any more, and to suspend missile tests, the U.S. will strike a deal.” Tensions between Pyongyang and Washington may cool, he says, “but South Korea will continue to be held hostage.”

Hence the need to go nuclear. South Korea’s civilian nuclear infrastructure—24 plants providing 30% of the country’s energy—could be used to produce 5,000 bombs worth of fissile material, Mr. Cheong says, dwarfing Pyongyang’s capability. Embracing the necessary technologies, including plutonium reprocessing, could be “the game-changer that will enable South Korea to manage North Korean problems.”

It would also “be consistent with U.S. security interests,” Mr. Cheong says, and “contain the nuclear issue within the boundary of the Korean Peninsula.” These are the claims that put him most at odds with longstanding thinking in Washington, where leaders generally fear that South Korea going nuclear could shatter the U.S.-South Korean alliance, spark a war with the North and trigger follow-on nuclearization in Japan and maybe Taiwan—developments China is liable to protest with military force.

Mr. Cheong thinks certain compromises can make it all work. Seoul would go nuclear but also engage Pyongyang economically and diplomatically, assuring Kim Jong Un that no one seeks his demise. Seoul would build only as many bombs as needed to have an edge (“if the North has 30, we have 40, for example”). And Seoul would ask the U.S. to “co-manage” its arsenal, preserving the bilateral alliance while assuring China and Russia that South Koreans have ultimate control over the weapons.

Japan may indeed seek to go nuclear, Mr. Cheong acknowledges, but it too could placate its rivals by keeping its arsenal small and co-managed. “The U.S. should assure China that Japan will not build more than a certain number of nuclear weapons large enough to counter the North Korean threat,” allowing China to “maintain its nuclear advantage over other Asian countries.” Taiwan, for its part, has to sit on its hands.

Such prescriptions seem rather tidy given all the uncertainties and dangers involved, and for years Seoul and Washington could dismiss them as non-starters. Even as majorities of South Koreans have told pollsters since the 1990s that they support nuclearization, policy makers in both capitals have been overwhelmingly opposed. That may no longer be so.

Several potential candidates in South Korea’s looming presidential election back nuclearization, including former National Assembly floor leader Won Yoo-cheol and Nam Kyung-pil, governor of the country’s most populous province. Mr. Cheong, who acknowledges that “experts and technocrats have tended to be against going nuclear,” says that officials have privately expressed greater interest since Pyongyang’s latest nuclear test in September. Once Pyongyang completes a hydrogen bomb, he says, “many experts will switch their views.”

Then there’s Donald Trump. If he sticks to supporting South Korean and Japanese nuclearization, he might as well hold a bonfire of traditional U.S. nonproliferation dogmas on the White House lawn.

Even if he reverses course, though, his record of denigrating U.S. allies has already made South Koreans and others more fearful of abandonment and therefore more likely to hedge their bets and consider going nuclear, despite the costs. Mr. Trump reportedly had a good phone call with South Korea’s president Wednesday night, but it’s no surprise that headlines this week in Seoul are blaring about “shock” and “panic.”

As Mr. Cheong predicted last week: A Trump presidency “will reshape the security landscape of Northeast Asia.”

Mr. Feith is a Journal editorial writer based in Hong Kong.
217  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc. on: November 10, 2016, 01:41:17 PM
"We should be unfaithful to ourselves if we should ever lose sight of the danger to our liberties if anything partial or extraneous should infect the purity of our free, fair, virtuous, and independent elections." —John Adams (1797)

Carry on with the excellent work gents!
218  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / WSJ: Obama's luck about to run out on his sucessor's watch on: November 10, 2016, 01:37:00 PM
Obama’s Fiscal Legacy
The President’s luck is about to run out—on his successor’s watch.
U.S. President Barack Obama ENLARGE
U.S. President Barack Obama Photo: Getty Images
Updated Nov. 9, 2016 12:04 a.m. ET
258 COMMENTS

Congratulations to the President-elect, whoever you are, because you’re going to need it. Our deadline arrived Tuesday before we knew the election outcome, but not before we can say with confidence that President Obama is leaving his successor a large and growing federal budget problem.

That’s the message in the Congressional Budget Office’s summary, released Monday, of the fiscal year that closed in September. Though the subject barely came up in the campaign—little policy substance did—the federal fisc is once again heading for trouble. There are some lessons in this for the next President, who will quickly realize that Mr. Obama’s fiscal luck has finally run out—on his successor’s watch.

One lesson is that the days of easy deficit reduction are over. The annual deficit in 2016 rose for the first time in three years—by $148 billion to $587 billion. That’s 3.2% of GDP, up sharply from 2.5% last year. Mr. Obama has been able to ride falling defense spending from reduced military deployments overseas, but Pentagon outlays were flat in 2016. Military spending will probably have to increase in future years, no matter who wins Tuesday, to meet the growing challenges from Russia, China and Iran.

Mr. Obama will also leave town having failed over eight years to do anything to slow the booming burden of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. Outlays for those three programs grew by $75 billion last year, or about 4.2%. They now account for 10% of the entire U.S. economy, the highest level ever, and rising.

The President’s main contribution has been to put Medicaid on hyperspeed by expanding its coverage through ObamaCare. CBO’s budget gnomes report that Medicaid spending has climbed by nearly 40% in a mere three years—to $368 billion in 2016. That doesn’t include what the states are obliged to chip in.

Another lesson is that faster economic growth is essential to a healthier fisc. One reason for the deficit rebound in 2016 is that federal revenues increased by a mere $18 billion or less than 1%. Individual income-tax receipts were flat, while corporate income taxes fell by $44 billion or 13% as business profits sagged. This is what happens when the economy sputters at about a 1% growth rate for most of a year.

Growth that slow couldn’t keep up with spending that increased 4.5% or $166 billion in 2016. Federal outlays were 20.9% of the economy for the year, up from 20.4% in 2014. A Republican Congress has kept that figure down from the heights of the Obama-Nancy Pelosi stimulus, but it is now set to take off again as more Baby Boomers start collecting Social Security and Medicare. (Millennials, get ready to pay even higher taxes throughout your working life.)

The tragedy is that Mr. Obama spent his political capital not on growing the economy but on growing entitlements and raising costs for business via regulation. The next President needs to make faster economic growth the policy default, or every other political priority will be hard or impossible to meet. The deficit burden will get worse faster.

The final major lesson is that the next President can’t count on the continuation of low interest rates. The Federal Reserve has been Mr. Obama’s best friend not named Chief Justice John Roberts as its monetary policies have helped finance a record debt blowout at lower cost. Mr. Obama issued more Treasurys than any President in history, and the Fed bought $1.7 trillion worth from 2009-2014. That helped guarantee there wouldn’t be a shortage of demand.

This era may be ending as a new President takes office. The Fed may raise rates in December, and bond yields have been rising. Outlays for net interest on the debt increased by $23 billion or 9% in 2016, largely due to faster inflation. But inflation is still tame. If it begins to rise, the debt-financing burden will explode with more than $14 trillion of Treasury debt outstanding, much of it short-term. In January CBO said that if interest rates are 100 basis points above their projections each year for the next decade, the Treasury will have to pay an average of more than $160 billion per year.

None of this adds up to an immediate crisis, but it does illustrate the degree of President Obama’s abdication. He has been the ultimate free-lunch politician, handing out new entitlements, exploiting the post-crisis era of low rates to grow the debt, and passing the bucks to the grandkids.

Mr. Obama once quipped in a meeting with Senators, only half seriously, that he couldn’t fix entitlements on his watch because he had to leave something for his successors. Too bad he’s done nothing except make the problem worse. It’s all yours, President-elect.
219  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Trump on: November 09, 2016, 09:45:18 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/09/16/this-chart-shows-how-trumps-penny-plan-would-add-up-to-huge-budget-cuts/
220  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The US Congress; Congressional races on: November 09, 2016, 09:42:21 PM
There is a run off in LA in December.  My understanding is a strong likelihood the Rep will win.
221  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / George Washington on: November 09, 2016, 06:24:22 PM
The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries, which result, gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of Public Liberty.

George Washington
222  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Exec orders being erased on Day One on: November 09, 2016, 06:21:00 PM
http://www.ifyouonlynews.com/politics/trump-team-begins-making-list-of-executive-orders-to-erase-obamas-presidency-on-day-one/
223  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: November 09, 2016, 03:45:05 PM
This should have been a landslide for us.  Trump made it very hard for many of our fellow Americans to see him as presidential.
224  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / The Trump Transition/Administration on: November 09, 2016, 03:42:41 PM
The world retains its ability to surprise.  Who would have thought we would ever have this thread?  cool cool cool

a) Britt Hume commented last night that he was hearing that the Transition Team (Chris Christie et al) was doing an outstanding job.

b) Special Prosecutor for Hillary, Huma, et al?  Or?

225  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Special Operations Warrior Foundation on: November 09, 2016, 12:15:04 PM
I have been giving to this charity for several years.  It receives a top rating from Charity Navigator.  An extremely high % of donations go to beneficiaries:

818-805-9400
warrior@specialops.org
www.specialops.org
226  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Special Operations Warrior Foundation on: November 09, 2016, 12:14:06 PM
I have been giving to this charity for several years.  It receives a top rating from charity navigator.  An extremely high % of donations go to benficiaries:

818-805-9400
warrior@specialops.org
www.specialops.org
227  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: November 09, 2016, 01:31:30 AM
Here is the real reason the Empress Dowager appears to have lost:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election/madonna-withdraws-oral-sex-promise-hillary-voters-article-1.2864602
228  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Glen Beck loses it , , , on: November 08, 2016, 04:12:27 PM
http://reverbpress.com/politics/glenn-beck-confesses-much-used-believe-sham/
229  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / WaPo on this in June 2014 on: November 07, 2016, 11:00:43 PM
Someone thinks this article relevant.  I post it here for the record, unread.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/timeline-how-the-benghazi-attack-played-out/2014/06/17/a5c34e90-f62c-11e3-a3a5-42be35962a52_story.html
230  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Players in the Clinton Machine on: November 07, 2016, 10:42:51 PM
IIRC upon his release from jail (7 months?) for taking the fall for Hillary for overbilling fraud (subpoenaed records being later found in her office after the statute of limitation expired), Webster Hubbell got a $700K consulting contract from the Riadys of Indonesia for , , , well no one knows.  OTOH the Riadys were widely believed to be deeply connected with the Chinese govt.
231  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Chelsea's husband on: November 07, 2016, 10:39:30 PM
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/304623-report-alleges-chelsea-clintons-husband-used-foundation-to-raise
232  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: November 07, 2016, 12:38:24 PM
"It seems futile but I'm glad we are logging Clinton misdeeds here."

Our eternal struggle with the Memory Hole!
233  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Obama's emails to Hillary at core of failure to enforce the law on: November 07, 2016, 10:52:35 AM
http://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1997/05/01/877310.html?pageNumber=40
234  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Janet Reno on: November 07, 2016, 10:50:54 AM
http://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1997/05/01/877310.html?pageNumber=40
235  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Where's the $20M? on: November 07, 2016, 01:54:46 AM
http://nlpc.org/2016/11/05/happened-20-million-clinton-haiti-fund/
236  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Way Forward for the American Creed on: November 07, 2016, 01:26:22 AM
For all our foresight about the Clintons, and our anger at her supporters and the pravdas who deceive them, we must also remember too what a profoundly flawed messenger Trump has been for the American Creed.
237  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Armed and Unarmed Resistance? on: November 07, 2016, 01:24:41 AM
Probably best for the American Creed thread , , ,
238  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Players in the Clinton Machine on: November 07, 2016, 01:23:07 AM
Excellent!

Please remember that this thread is but an off shoot of the Clinton thread and is for background on players such as Podesta, Huma Abedin, Webster Hubbell, Donna Brazille, the Riaddys, Johnny Chung, Hugh Rodham, Sandy Berger, Sidney Blumenthal  et al.
239  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The war on the rule of law on: November 07, 2016, 12:39:54 AM
I find myself wondering if there is dishonest editing in that clip.
240  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / The Players in the Clinton Machine on: November 07, 2016, 12:38:22 AM
The Hillbillary Clinton thread is threatened by overload. 

Lets start this thread for background intel on the players in their machine.  For example, John Podesta.
241  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Wikileaks WTF? on: November 07, 2016, 12:36:37 AM
Not a bad idea for a thread, but given how much is already out from Wikipedia that we missed perhaps it is a bit late to the party.

As far as Podesta goes, maybe I should start a thread on The Clinton Machine , , ,
242  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Armed and Unarmed Resistance? on: November 07, 2016, 12:34:24 AM
A powerful point!  May I ask you post in in the Way Forward for the American Creed thread and that we discuss it there?   TIA

243  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / 60,000 felons in VA pardoned to vote on: November 06, 2016, 01:47:30 PM
http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/06/exclusive-virginia-gov-pardons-60000-felons-enough-to-swing-election/?utm_campaign=thedcmainpage&utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social
244  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Who is #1? on: November 06, 2016, 01:45:23 PM
Rather superficial, but raises some interesting questions:

http://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/heres-who-would-win-if-russia-china-and-america-went-to-war-right-now
245  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Macedonia a hub for phony pro Trump messages on: November 06, 2016, 01:32:55 PM
https://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilverman/how-macedonia-became-a-global-hub-for-pro-trump-misinfo?utm_term=.kuyddBeon#.ckmllzb3B
246  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Blacks voting for Trump? on: November 06, 2016, 10:53:24 AM
https://www.facebook.com/notes/the-2016-committee/the-surprising-realignment-of-african-american-voters/1290094361052791
247  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / The rigging of the election is on! on: November 05, 2016, 10:36:17 PM
https://ihavethetruth.com/2016/11/05/florida-massive-voter-fraud/

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-04/apple-offering-anti-trump-app-allowing-voters-trade-votes-across-state-lines

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/josephstal109571.html
248  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / DDF's post #579 Part Two on: November 05, 2016, 12:54:39 AM
This is over my head, , , but sounds really scary.  Can someone break this down for me?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-04/hacker-guccifer-20-warns-he-has-info-inside-fec-democrats-may-rig-elections

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fob-AGgZn44

short version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ezmpqwVEnM



249  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / The Cipher Brief on: November 04, 2016, 11:48:56 PM
Recommended to me by a serious person:

https://www.thecipherbrief.com/dead-drop
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