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201  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Accuser walks back Hannity accusations on: April 24, 2017, 03:52:56 PM
202  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / POTB: No such thing as a failed missile launch on: April 24, 2017, 03:38:13 PM

 There's no such thing as a failed missile launch: Lessons from North Korea, the post-truth capital of the world
In this Saturday, April 15, 2017, photo, soldiers salute as their national anthem is played during a

Soldiers salute as their national anthem is played during a military parade to celebrate the 105th birthday of Kim Il Sung, in Pyongyang, North Korea. (Wong Maye-E / Associated Press)
Jonathan Kaiman

All afternoon we obsessively checked our phones, seeking a reason — or even a clue — as to why North Korea wouldn’t let us leave.

I was among roughly two dozen foreign correspondents, tourists, and diplomats waiting at the Pyongyang airport’s departure gates on Monday. Our flight to Beijing was scheduled for 8:30 a.m.; now it was nearly 4 p.m., and as the evening loomed, the question felt increasingly urgent. We had no explanation for the delay, and no information on rescheduling. Soon, as we exhausted the limited cellular data allotted by our exorbitantly expensive North Korean plans, we would have no connection to the outside world.

Saturday was the most important day on the North Korean calendar — the 105th birthday of its founding president, Kim Il Sung. His grandson, Kim Jong Un, planned to preside over a massive military parade in Kim Il Sung’s honor, and the North Korean government invited about 100 foreign journalists to attend. It clearly intended to send a dark but unambiguous message to the outside world: that the country was well-armed, unfazed by U.N. sanctions over its budding nuclear program, and prepared to go to war with the U.S.

It clearly intended to send a dark but unambiguous message to the outside world.

All week, the mood was tense. The U.S. had reportedly dispatched a naval strike group to the Korean peninsula, and there were reports that officials were considering a preemptive strike. (It would later turn out that the naval group was headed in the opposite direction.) North Korea threatened to retaliate, raising the specter of nuclear conflict. "We will go to war if they choose,” a high-ranking North Korean official told the Associated Press.

So at the airport, we puzzled over the delay and feared the worst. We ruled out the weather, unofficial Chinese government measures, and a mechanical issue with the plane — Pyongyang and Beijing both had clear skies, and a flight from Pyongyang to the Russian city of Vladivostok was also grounded. Several people waiting had visited North Korea on multiple occasions, and they were equally perplexed.

Rumors flew. What if the government had closed its airspace for a missile test? What if it didn’t want us to leave? Suddenly, just after 4 p.m., the departures board went dark, and the group went quiet.
‘Liberation of the fatherland,’ then sandwiches

On April 12, I flew from northeastern China to Pyongyang on Air Koryo, North Korea’s state airline. About a half-hour after takeoff, a flight attendant announced that we had entered North Korean airspace. "Our President, Kim Il Sung, came across the river with great ambition for his country,” she said in English. “It reminds us of his revolutionary exploits in his liberation of the fatherland.” She then distributed sandwiches.

Since the late 1940s, the Kim family has ruled North Korea with an iron fist — hundreds of thousands of political prisoners have died in its vast network of internment camps, according to best estimates. Any sign of dissent, or even disillusionment, can carry unspeakable consequences.

Its capital, Pyongyang, is a city of clean streets and modest apartment blocks. It’s also an urban testament to a personality cult so entrenched that it subsumes many aspects of its residents’ daily lives. Golden statues of Kim Il Sung and his son Kim Jong Il, the country’s ruler from 1994 to 2011, tower over the city. Their smiling portraits stare out from socialist-style edifices, living room walls, and red lacquer badges that all North Korean adults are required to wear in public, on their left lapels over their hearts.
Reporter Jonathan Kaiman with his government minder Kim Jin Hyok.
Reporter Jonathan Kaiman with his government minder Kim Jin Hyok. (Los Angeles Times)

Each journalist was assigned a government minder. We were not allowed to report, or even leave the hotel, on our own. On Thursday, my minder — Kim Jin Hyok, 27, a handsome Foreign Ministry employee — roused me at 4 a.m. for an “important event,” and instructed me to leave my phone and computer in the hotel room.

Bleary-eyed, the journalists stumbled onto our buses, spent four hours in a security line — every bag, every camera, every pocket was scoured — and arrived at a huge, empty square. At one end was a red-carpeted stage, and behind that, Ryomyong Street — a row of gleaming new high-rise residential buildings that, according to North Korean media, were built within a year.

“The mode of the respected leader Kim Jong Un is to improve the living standards of the people,” one official told me. “It’s to show that even if the U.S. places sanctions on us, we can still move forward at tremendous speed.”

People soon began filing in, until the square was a sea of dark suits, military uniforms and colorful dresses. I saw thousands of soldiers; many were heartrendingly small and thin, a reminder of the malnutrition that remains widespread outside the capital.

At about 9:30, Kim Jong Un arrived in a black Mercedes limousine. The crowd roared. The country’s prime minister gave a speech. After about 15 minutes, Kim stepped back into his limousine. He never said a word.

When he departed, the applause abruptly stopped. It echoed for several seconds, as if within a vast stone church.
What do you do for fun?

North Korea is perhaps the world’s foremost post-truth society. Most citizens cannot access the Internet, or unfiltered foreign information of any kind. Domestic media exists only to glorify the country’s leaders, or rehash ideological dogma and grievances against South Korea and the U.S.

Our minders constantly hovered over us, openly surveilling our cameras and notebooks. We had no recourse — even our minders had minders. They’d taken our passports on arrival. If they caught us photographing something forbidden — an off-duty soldier, a particularly revered political portrait — they didn’t hesitate to forcibly delete our photos.

Everything raised questions. Who decided our itinerary, and why didn’t our minders ever seem to know it until the last minute? Why were we allowed to photograph some portraits of the Kims, but not others? What was the average salary in Pyongyang? The minders didn’t know, or wouldn’t tell us.

In the absence of information, we formed our impressions through visual details, the cadence of conversations, the hum of Pyongyang’s city life.

Through the bus window, we observed the city’s old-fashioned bicycles, its pastel-colored mid-rises, its construction sites and rail depots. Experts had told me that the country’s economy was improving, and it appeared to be true. New cars lined the streets. Women wore high heels; men wore sneakers. Some rode electric bicycles, cellphones pressed against their ears.

“Do you believe in God?” my minder suddenly asked me as we sat on the bus. It was a surprising question — North Korea is an officially secular state, where religion is severely restricted.

“Not really,” I replied. “Do you?”

He paused, and smiled. “I believe in Juche revolutionary ideology,” he said, referring to Kim Il Sung’s ideology of self-reliance.

I laughed, and he laughed too.

We chatted about ourselves — our jobs, our families, our friends and relationships. He agreed to interpret several interviews with ordinary Pyongyang residents. I asked them about the U.S.-North Korea relationship, and they responded with state-sanctioned lines about “U.S. imperialist aggression” or “the benevolence of the respected Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un.”

Yet other questions elicited incoherent answers or blank stares. Nobody could explain what they did for fun. A woman expressed her hope to someday visit Mt. Paektu, North Korea’s holy mountain. A man said that he was an architect. I could find no better way to ask the question, so I changed the subject.
Missile launch? What missile launch?

Saturday’s military parade was a blur of color and noise. For two hours, Kim stood and waved from a high rostrum, overlooking an endless procession of tanks, missile-bearing trucks, and soldiers who goose-stepped with such precision that the ground shook. Civilians marched by clutching North Korean flags, their necks craned towards Kim. They shouted “long live,” tears streaming down their faces.

Analysts expected North Korea to mark the holiday with a missile or nuclear test — and sure enough, the following morning, U.S. and South Korean officials reported that North Korea had tested a missile, though it fizzled shortly after takeoff.

In the U.S., talking heads debated the prospects of war. Yet North Korean state media didn’t announce the test — it never reports on failures. For ordinary North Koreans, it simply never happened.

That afternoon, at the Pyongyang Zoo, hundreds of middle-class Pyongyang residents filed past healthy-looking seals, hippos and orangutans. Three little girls petted a tortoise, their eyes filled with wonder, as their mother snapped pictures. No military marches piped in through speakers, and no portraits of dictators adorned the walls.

You can’t fake this, I thought. These were real people with loving families, having genuine fun. Some of them were almost certainly the same people I’d seen sobbing at the parade. The thought filled me with sadness.
Departure board goes dark

On Monday, my minder and I said goodbye. He returned my passport, and I stepped through immigration.

An hour after the departure board went dark — and just as we began wondering how we’d spend the night — it flickered back to life. An airline employee announced that all flights would depart immediately. She gave no further information — no explanation, no apology. We boarded the tired-looking Tupolev jet, and held our breaths as it shuddered down the runway.

This time, when we crossed the Yalu River and the flight attendant praised Kim Il Sung’s “revolutionary exploits,” the words filled me with relief.
203  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Tucker Carlson on: April 24, 2017, 02:26:03 PM
204  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / The Battle for Berkeley on: April 24, 2017, 06:54:25 AM
crude footage
205  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / The Battle for Berkeley on: April 24, 2017, 06:53:46 AM
206  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Glick: Support domestic opposition on: April 24, 2017, 06:26:01 AM
The safest, most effective way to scuttle the plans of today's would be destroyers of the Jews -- the evil nuclear bomb builders and terror supporters in Iran -- is to support their domestic opposition.

I have received multiple reports over the past 24 hours that there are anti-regime demonstrations taking place in every major city in Iran.

Look at the young student in the clip below and you see what the face of courage looks like. The men standing next to him, pacing angrily back and forth as he speaks are a less than subtle indication that this student has already been carted off, jailed and tortured for his heroic remarks.

Millions of Iranians oppose the regime and have openly demonstrated against it in recent years. They have repeatedly, desperately turned to the West -- even to Israel -- for help in their bid to overturn the regime that will, if left in place, bring about a global cataclysm the likes of which humanity has never seen.

Under Obama, the US sided with the regime. Israel saw its anti-regime efforts leaked to the New York Times by Obama officials.

Now is the time for the US to work with Israel to right Obama's wrongs. Now is the time to stand with the Iranians who willingly risk -- and often sacrifice -- their lives to bring down their evil regime.
207  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Earth Day predictions over the years on: April 23, 2017, 07:53:24 PM
208  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Make mental note of the list of donors on: April 23, 2017, 06:18:58 PM
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209  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Behead Berkeley College Republicans on: April 23, 2017, 02:28:18 PM
210  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Comparing Jihad and the Crusades on: April 23, 2017, 01:50:46 PM
211  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / France: Marine Le Pen on: April 23, 2017, 01:36:26 PM

Not often discussed-- the attitude/alliance with/money from Russia thing raises serious questions. 
212  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Next pick for SCOTUS? on: April 23, 2017, 01:33:36 PM
213  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Bolton: Nork Subs on: April 23, 2017, 01:09:29 PM
214  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / POTH: To whom does Trump turn? on: April 22, 2017, 08:51:16 PM
215  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: North and South Korea on: April 22, 2017, 04:38:43 PM
216  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Intelligence and Psychology on: April 22, 2017, 04:19:56 PM
Thank you!
217  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Vanity Fair: Chelsea on: April 22, 2017, 03:51:08 AM
Marc:  What do you get when you cross a crooked lawyer with a slimy politician?


218  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Henninger: A Trump Alliance Strategy on: April 22, 2017, 03:38:34 AM
 By Daniel Henninger
April 19, 2017 7:01 p.m. ET

After 59 Tomahawk missiles landed on a Syrian airfield, followed by the dropping of a 21,600-pound bomb on Islamic State’s hideouts in Afghanistan, the world has begun to ask: What is Donald Trump’s foreign policy? And so the search begins by pressing what Mr. Trump has done so far against various foreign-policy templates. Is he a neoconservative, a Scowcroftian realist or a babe in the woods?

We know this is a fool’s errand. There will be no Trump Doctrine anytime soon, and that’s fine. The Obama Doctrine, whatever it was, left his successor a steep climb in the Middle East and Asia. It is difficult to find doctrinal solutions for issues that everyone calls “a mess.” It is possible, though, to see the shape of an emerging strategy.

The place to look for that strategy is inside the minds of Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster.

During his Senate confirmation hearings, Mr. Mattis said something that jumped out at the time. He called the North Atlantic Treaty Organization “the most successful military alliance probably in modern history, maybe ever.”

This was in notable contradistinction to the view of his president that NATO was obsolete. Then last week, after meeting with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, President Trump said of the alliance: “I said it was obsolete. It’s no longer obsolete.”

Let’s set aside the obligatory sniggering over such a remark and try to see a president moving toward the outlines of a foreign policy that, for a president who likes to keep it simple, may be described with one word: allies.

NATO emerged as a formal alliance after World War II. Less formally, the U.S. struck alliances with other nations to base troops and ships, as in the Persian Gulf.

After the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991, foreign-policy thinkers began to debate the proper role of the U.S. as the world’s only superpower. Liberals argued that maintaining the U.S. at the apex of this alliance system was, well, obsolete. Instead the U.S. should act more like a co-equal partner with our allies, including international institutions such as the United Nations.

The idea of a flatter alliance structure, or leading from behind, came to life with the Obama presidency. It doesn’t work.

If indeed Jim Mattis and H.R. McMaster are the architects of an emerging Trump foreign policy, their most formative experiences, in Iraq, may shape that policy.

After the Iraq War began in 2003, the U.S. tried to defeat the enemy essentially with brute force. Serving in different areas of Iraq—Gen. Mattis in Anbar province and then-Col. McMaster in the city of Tal Afar—the two men realized that force alone wasn’t winning. Instead, they sought, successfully, to gain buy-in from the local populations and tribal leaders. In return for that buy-in, U.S. forces provided security to their new allies.

The difficult and ultimately tragic question was, what happens after the U.S. leaves? In strategic terms: How does the U.S. stabilize a volatile world without becoming a permanent occupying force?

Last month, Gen. McMaster brought onto the NSA staff Nadia Schadlow, who has thought a lot about that question. Her assignment is to develop the National Security Strategy Report. The title of her just-released book, “War and the Art of Governance: Consolidating Combat Success Into Political Victory,” summarizes its core idea:

Unlike its pullout from Iraq, the U.S. has to remain involved—engaged—in the turbulent political space that always exists between conflict and peace, a space filled with competition for influence and power. What Gens. Mattis and McMaster learned in the wake of Iraq is that if you make allies, you should keep them.

Thus, Vice President Mike Pence stood at the DMZ across from North Korea reconfirming the U.S.’s alliance with South Korea. A day later, he did the same in Japan.

Mr. Trump met in recent weeks with King Abdullah of Jordan, President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi of Egypt and, most importantly, Saudi Arabia’s Deputy Crown Prince Salman. This week, Mr. Trump called to congratulate Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on his referendum “victory.”

These are the Middle East’s “tribal leaders,” or allies, whose buy-in will be necessary if the U.S. is to consolidate gains from the military strikes in Syria and Afghanistan—possibly with the partition of Syria into three tribal sectors.

Russia has separated itself by choosing instead an alliance with Iran to create a Russo-Iranian Shiite crescent extending across the Middle East to the Mediterranean.

The Mattis-McMaster foreign policy taking shape looks like a flexible strategy born of military experience in fast, fluid circumstances—our world. It is based on both formal and mobile alliances with partners willing to use diplomatic, financial, political and, if necessary, military pressure to establish stable outcomes. The word “abandon” doesn’t fit here.

Some might say that sounds like the U.S. leading alongside. With one big difference: The U.S. is in fact leading.

219  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / When to doubt "scientific consensus"; Red Team on: April 22, 2017, 03:29:07 AM


A ‘Red Team’ Exercise Would Strengthen Climate Science

Put the ‘consensus’ to a test, and improve public understanding, through an open, adversarial process.
Opinion Journal: The Climate Change Debates You Never Hear About
Former Energy Department Undersecretary Steven Koonin on scientific self-censorship. Photo: istock images
By Steven Koonin
April 20, 2017 6:49 p.m. ET

Tomorrow’s March for Science will draw many thousands in support of evidence-based policy making and against the politicization of science. A concrete step toward those worthy goals would be to convene a “Red Team/Blue Team” process for climate science, one of the most important and contentious issues of our age.

The national-security community pioneered the “Red Team” methodology to test assumptions and analyses, identify risks, and reduce—or at least understand—uncertainties. The process is now considered a best practice in high-consequence situations such as intelligence assessments, spacecraft design and major industrial operations. It is very different and more rigorous than traditional peer review, which is usually confidential and always adjudicated, rather than public and moderated.

The public is largely unaware of the intense debates within climate science. At a recent national laboratory meeting, I observed more than 100 active government and university researchers challenge one another as they strove to separate human impacts from the climate’s natural variability. At issue were not nuances but fundamental aspects of our understanding, such as the apparent—and unexpected—slowing of global sea-level rise over the past two decades.

Summaries of scientific assessments meant to inform decision makers, such as the United Nations’ Summary for Policymakers, largely fail to capture this vibrant and developing science. Consensus statements necessarily conceal judgment calls and debates and so feed the “settled,” “hoax” and “don’t know” memes that plague the political dialogue around climate change. We scientists must better portray not only our certainties but also our uncertainties, and even things we may never know. Not doing so is an advisory malpractice that usurps society’s right to make choices fully informed by risk, economics and values. Moving from oracular consensus statements to an open adversarial process would shine much-needed light on the scientific debates.

Given the importance of climate projections to policy, it is remarkable that they have not been subject to a Red Team exercise. Here’s how it might work: The focus would be a published scientific report meant to inform policy such as the U.N.’s Summary for Policymakers or the U.S. Government’s National Climate Assessment. A Red Team of scientists would write a critique of that document and a Blue Team would rebut that critique. Further exchanges of documents would ensue to the point of diminishing returns. A commission would coordinate and moderate the process and then hold hearings to highlight points of agreement and disagreement, as well as steps that might resolve the latter. The process would unfold in full public view: the initial report, the exchanged documents and the hearings.

A Red/Blue exercise would have many benefits. It would produce a traceable public record that would allow the public and decision makers a better understanding of certainties and uncertainties. It would more firmly establish points of agreement and identify urgent research needs. Most important, it would put science front and center in policy discussions, while publicly demonstrating scientific reasoning and argument. The inherent tension of a professional adversarial process would enhance public interest, offering many opportunities to show laymen how science actually works. (In 2014 I conducted a workshop along these lines for the American Physical Society.)

Congress or the executive branch should convene a climate science Red/Blue exercise as a step toward resolving, or at least illuminating, differing perceptions of climate science. While the Red and Blue Teams should be knowledgeable and avowedly opinionated scientists, the commission should have a balanced membership of prominent individuals with technical credentials, led by co-chairmen who are forceful, knowledgeable and independent of the climate-science community. The Rogers Commission for the Challenger disaster in 1986, the Energy Department’s Huizenga/Ramsey Review of Cold Fusion in 1989, and the National Bioethics Advisory Commission of the late 1990s are models for the kind of fact-based rigor and transparency needed.

The outcome of a Red/Blue exercise for climate science is not preordained, which makes such a process all the more valuable. It could reveal the current consensus as weaker than claimed. Alternatively, the consensus could emerge strengthened if Red Team criticisms were countered effectively. But whatever the outcome, we scientists would have better fulfilled our responsibilities to society, and climate policy discussions would be better informed. For those reasons, all who march to advocate policy making based upon transparent apolitical science should support a climate science Red Team exercise.

Mr. Koonin, a theoretical physicist, is director of the Center for Urban Science and Progress at New York University. He served as undersecretary of energy for science during President Obama’s first term.
220  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Citizenship revoked on: April 22, 2017, 03:10:27 AM
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221  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Why didn't FBI warn about Garland, TX? on: April 22, 2017, 02:49:33 AM
222  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Up from the memory hole: Obama's passport and trip to Pakistan on: April 22, 2017, 01:22:35 AM
223  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / US, Russia, and Exxon: Waiver denied on: April 21, 2017, 08:43:07 PM
224  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Rush on the underlying theme of the O'Reilly affair on: April 21, 2017, 08:31:34 PM
225  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Where oh where can the USS Vinson be? on: April 21, 2017, 08:28:04 PM
226  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Caroline Glick on Bret Stehphens on: April 21, 2017, 09:48:23 AM

CG comments on the article:

The JTA's profile of Bret Stephens posted below is a largely fair and accurate portrait of the extraordinary career of a fantastic writer.
But I have one problem with it. I have a problem with the article's strange, unfair and distorted portrayal of the Post's former publisher Tom Rose.
During his tenure as publisher of the Jerusalem Post, in 2002 Tom Rose hired Bret Stephens, then a young editorial writer at the Wall Street Journal in Europe, to serve as editor of the Jerusalem Post, a major newspaper with a global audience.
This would have been an enormous promotion for anyone. It was certainly a career maker for a 28 year old writer.
Bret Stephens in turn hired me to serve as a senior columnist and deputy managing editor of the paper. This too was a major development in my career. Until then, I had no significant exposure to the English language audience. I was then serving as a senior writer for Makor Rishon.
I was then, and remain still today, deeply appreciative to Bret for recruiting me to the paper.
There are many things that I appreciate about Bret, beyond the fact that he hired me. The role he played in getting Tom fired is not one of them.
This is very old news, and would not be worth recalling, except that strangely, for no apparent reason, the 13 year old episode was highlighted in the JTA profile of Bret, on the eve of his move from the Wall Street Journal to the New York Times.
Over the years that passed since his departure from the paper, Tom and I struck up of friendship. We haven't spoken for several months, and it is important for me to note that at he did not, and never would, ask me to write about this. In fact, I imagine he wouldn't want me to say anything at all. But like I said, we haven't spoken for awhile so I am doing what I think is right, under these strange circumstances.
Tom was hired by Hollinger to serve as the Post's publisher with the specific duty to de-unionize the paper.
Not surprisingly, a lot of people hated him for it.
Bret's hire was also part of the transformation the Post underwent under Tom's leadership from a cumbersome, expensive, local Israeli paper, owned by the Histadrut labor union if I am not mistaken, into a lean, global publication, that ran on a streamlined budget.
If Tom hadn't been there, Bret would not have received the opportunity of his lifetime, (and he wouldn't have hired me, giving me an opportunity of my lifetime).
Tom, like Bret, (and like me), has his share of rough edges. He is however, a brilliant, exceedingly competent professional and a wonderful person. He doesn't deserve to be assaulted again, 13 years later in a weird attempt to provide a foil for Bret's many good qualities. It is unfair and it feels vindictive.
I have to say that I am mystified at the motive.
I wish Bret the best of luck at the New York Times. He is a gifted writer and he did me a great service 15 years ago when he asked me to join him at the Post.
227  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Trump, Abbas, and Palestinian attitudes polled on: April 21, 2017, 12:29:44 AM
228  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / VP Pence in Indonesia on: April 21, 2017, 12:27:02 AM
229  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / CATO: The Costs and Consequences of Gun Control on: April 21, 2017, 12:22:40 AM
230  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Left economics is no match for alt right resentment on: April 20, 2017, 11:37:28 PM
Plenty here I do not agree with, but some genuine insights as well:
231  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / We are fuct on: April 20, 2017, 11:32:22 PM
232  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Hermann Goering on: April 20, 2017, 11:30:51 PM

233  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Breitbart: Young White America Dying of Despair on: April 20, 2017, 11:26:52 PM
234  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Ten Reasons I am no longer a Leftist on: April 20, 2017, 11:08:53 PM
235  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Taibbi on "Shattered" on: April 20, 2017, 11:05:10 PM
236  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / POTH goes after O'Reilly and FOX on: April 20, 2017, 11:02:11 PM
237  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: second us civil war on: April 20, 2017, 10:56:32 AM
It would appear that such may be the case all too soon:
238  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Antifa pulls ad for concealed knives on: April 20, 2017, 10:55:40 AM
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239  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / The Shot Heard 'round the World on: April 20, 2017, 08:26:08 AM

I make an annual donation to this group.
240  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Count Dante: Mastermind or Mad Man? on: April 20, 2017, 08:20:42 AM
Count Dante, Mastermind or Mad Man?
by: Tracy Warrener
    The Martial Arts have always been a platform which attracts so many different personalities.  Some regular, everyday people and then there are others who stand out from the masses and are quite different…  Count Dante from Chicago was one such person.

     He was born John Keehan and was raised in a well off family from Chicago. During his high school years, John studied boxing and then later joined the Marines and Army where he learned martial arts.  After studying with various instructors, he earned his black belt and went on to teach others.  Keehan


really didn’t like the formal, traditional side of the martial arts and felt that it wasn’t realistic in a street self defence situation. So he created his own style of martial art and called it the Dan-te System. He was known to be a very colorful and an eccentric person and one who liked to brag and talk about his past fighting conquests. One such story he spoke of involved him allegedly participating in death matches in Thailand and China. In 1967, he

legally changed his name to Count Dante.

     Count Dante was key in implementing Full Contact Tournaments in the United States. He was the director of United States Karate Association as well as in 1964 the founder of World Karate Federation. He became well known for taking out ads at the back of Comic books advertising himself as the Deadliest Man Alive and promoted his  instructional book ‘Dance of Death’ and also promoting himself as an expert instructor of the famous ‘Dimak technique’. Aside from his world of martial arts, Dante was a hairdresser, and was known also for his criminal activity and affiliations.


      Controversy and his eccentric nature was something that he became famous for.  He was arrested and charged with attempted arson of a rival dojo, his ‘Black Dragon Fighting Society’ made headlines when he and some of his students went to another rival dojo and attacked the students which ended in the death of his friend.

There have been other crimes linked to him as well as his association with known criminals.

     Count Dante was definitely one of the more evocative characters of the Martial Arts world during the 60’s and early ’70’s.  It was almost as Hollywood itself wrote his fascinating story and he was the character developed for a cheesy kung fu movie. He was known as a skilled fighter and a good teacher in what he believed in.  Dante died in 1975 at the age of 36yrs old from a a bleeding ulcer. For someone to be such a major influence on modern martial arts culture, develop a large following of students, and to be a fundamental role in the organizing of such full contact tournaments  it takes someone who is both intelligent and charismatic.  When you couple that with some of his more darker characteristics and affiliations, one may come to the conclusion that he was both a mastermind and a mad man. How ever you choose to view him, one thing is for sure he was truly a very unique individual.

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250  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: 2017 US Tribal Gathering of the Pack May 20-21 on: April 18, 2017, 03:37:50 PM
Some background info about the documentary that is being shot of this May's Tribal Gathering:


"We are an Oscar nominated production company who make sports documentaries amongst other films. We produced the film "Muse" about Kobe Bryant for Showtime ( and most recently the series called "Religion of Sports" for Direct TV, ( By way of introduction to myself, here's the link to the Cat Zingano/MMA episode in full which I produced and co-wrote.

"Alpha + Omega
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"We're currently working on a new series entitled "Why We Fight" (…) which investigates different combat sports and martial arts around the word, with a particular focus on the characters who fight, and their motivations for doing so. This show is for Verizon's go90 network and will available to stream on computers phones tables and connected TV's from the fall."

They approached me through Pappy Dog. I have spoken with them and given the green light.
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