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1  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Self-Defense Law on: November 16, 2009, 01:20:46 PM
GM, that's the cleanest I have ever seen it explained.

thank you!

David --
2  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Self-Defense Law on: November 16, 2009, 11:14:05 AM
It has always seemed strange to me that it seems to come down to where you happen to be standing as to what actions you can (legally) do to defend yourself. If I'm in Pennsylvania, by the time I worked out whether or not I was actually being threatened and to what degree, I'd be dead - at least I think I would, since I'm not an attorney and can't really interpret the law well enough where I would be sure that my opinion would hold up in court.

Home in Missouri, though, I have the state's castle doctrine and -- I believe much more important, I know most of the people at the Sheriff's department -- so when a couple patrol cars show up, they're going to have at least a preliminary idea that me, the old guy with the gun, is probably the good guy.

Another question in an earlier post, what's a threat? Somebody in my home is a threat and I'm not talking to them. My home, so I'm just attacking whatever my German Shepherd is biting. But, and this did happen, some clown showed up late one night and tried to kick in the front door. Threat? Not at all. I got a shotgun and the big dog and my wife called 911. Fifteen minutes later, two cars showed up from one direction and then another car from the other way (our neighbor, also a deputy, decided to get up and see what was going on). The guy who had attempted to break the door down didn't realize the door is steel with reinforced everything and I guess he broke his knee or something, the deputies found him outside in the yard. Oops. No threat. Had he made it through the door, which I thought was extremely unlikely, I'd have taken some action, but again, didn't think that was possible unless he had some kind of breaching tools.

I think that had I shot through the door, that would have been excessive and unwarranted. Perhaps that isn't the way to look at the situation, but as long as I consider myself "safe," then I don't see any reason to attack. I'm sure various laws will castigate me both ways..........
3  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Knife Law on: June 30, 2009, 11:28:39 AM
Now here is my quandry about michigan , we allow peopel to carry firearms for the same purpose they say you cannot carry a knife self defense . Tried to talk to a local prosecuter about it and he really didn't have any answers or didn't want to give any.

boyo

Some states - maybe most - do have that problem. They'll issue permits to carry firearms rather than weapons (and then one must go to the definition of weapon to see what's allowed). When Missouri did their law, they said "weapons" -- however (aren't those however things great?), brass knuckles and switchblades are not in the list of definitions for weapon, they are listed separately. So, brass knuckles and switchblades are illegal to carry even with a permit to carry weapons. That means perhaps, depending on how Missouri looks at the Customs ruling, my folding knife would be illegal to carry.

Using the wonders of legal logic, I am still able to carry blackjacks, saps, bowie knives, daggers, dirks and firearms. That's if I am tough enough to pack around that much gear.
4  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Knife Law on: June 26, 2009, 10:47:24 AM
Good post David. 

Has anyone here written a letter about this yet?  NOW is the time for comments people!

Crafty Dog - the comment period ended June 21st. Customs was asked for an extension but they refused. Meanwhile a couple of Representatives tried to tag a rule onto the Customs appropriations bill to not let Customs have the money needed to enforce the new switchblade ruling (kind of clever, I thought, hit them in the wallet). Of course, the rule got pitched out of committee on some kind of technical error.

So, we wait and see. At least here, a Missouri CCW includes all weapons, so I can always carry my Bowie knife in one of Mike Sastre's sheaths.....!
5  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Knife Law on: June 25, 2009, 08:01:15 PM
Ah, you found some text that I had not. My perception of this is that someone who's not very familiar with knives thinks he(or she or they) are closing a loophole. I believe they're incorrect, of course.

Exactly! Years ago, when I saw the first assisted-opening knives, I thought that eventually the Feds would walk all over that idea. Unfortunately, the "not very familiar" are running the show (as you very well said), so we may see some things that are just stupid. Agreed, they are attempting to close a loophole, but they are taking the old idea of gravity knives and pushing that into the concept of inertia opening.

You and I need to have the ability to sit down with a beer and write the "switchblade" definition -- which I'd suggest, should really just be trashed. I could care less if somebody is carrying a knife that needs to have a button pushed to open it. While they are doing that, I can pop my knife open faster. Or, I'll just shoot them.
6  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Knife Law on: June 25, 2009, 04:18:02 PM
There was very little linked in the original article- although the writer states that all one-handed folders would be banned, about an hour of tooling around through the Customs pubically available information only yielded to me that

a) spring-assist would be effected
b) this would only effect import and not carry

The writer may have materials I am not privy to, but neither I nor any friends were able to find them.

Yes, spring assist would be affected. Yes, this would only affect importation. There are some other areas where this ruling may have an impact. Customs is saying that "It is now CBP’s position that knives incorporating spring- and release-assisted opening mechanisms are prohibited from entry into the United States pursuant to the Switchblade Knife Act, 15 U.S.C. §§ 1241–1245" -- page 7 of their statement. Customs then has some letters from 2005 where they said that spring assist was not a switchblade. Fine. Agreed.
Problem is with their 2008 letters that retract the earlier view. At this point, they are citing the report of the "Senate Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce" -- ". . . We hold, therefore, that a knife may be found to be a switchblade knife within the meaning of the Switchblade Knife Act if it is found that
it can be made to open automatically by hand pressure, inertia, or gravity after insignificant alterations, and that one of its primary purposes is for use as a weapon" - page 24.
Then Customs goes back and gets some rather obscure rulings to further reinforce their view that a switchblade is now [either] a knife that opens by pushing a button or a knife that can be opened with inertia. They cite a dictionary definition of inertia, etc.... and then these past rulings: "In New York Ruling Letter (‘‘NY’’) G83213, dated October 13, 2000, CBP determined that ‘‘a folding knife with a spring-loaded blade [which could] be easily opened by light pressure on a thumb knob located at the base of the blade, or by a flick of the wrist’’ was an ‘‘inertia-operated knife’’ that ‘‘is prohibited under the Switchblade Act and subject to seizure.’’ See 19 C.F.R.
§ 12.95 (a)(1). In NY H81084, dated May 23, 2001, CBP determined that 18 models of knives ‘‘may be opened with a simple flick of the wrist, and therefore are
prohibited as inertial operated knives.’’ - page 32

OK, so spring assist and, based on their definition, any knife that can be opened with a "flick of the wrist" - and at some other point they discuss any knife that can be opened with one hand (but I'm too lazy to find it in the 63 pages of legalese), let's say all these can no longer be imported. My big Cold Steel knife can be flicked open, I'm sure there are plenty of others. With the thumb-stud types, the makers can leave the thumb stud off and then tack weld the fastener holding the blade so it can't be backed out (and thus it can't be loose enough to be flicked open).

These are the Feds and they work with the Federal definition of a switchblade, of course. That's 15 USC -- 1241-1245.
Here's the warped part. Most all state laws that ban switchblades do not define a switchblade. The state law defaults to the Federal definition. So, if the Federal definition would now mean all the knives above, then a lot of regular knives could no longer be carried under state statutes.
Has this happened? No. But we haven't heard from Customs yet. They have 30 days from June 21st to make a ruling, which takes effect 90 days from that time. I don't know what the states will do with it. Some will probably ignore it. Others, who knows? Meanwhile, a lot of knife manufacturers are going to have a mess.

I am not an attorney, nor did I sleep in whatever motel last night. But, I do get paid as my full time job to interpret firearms law and when I happened across the Customs bulletin, I thought it wouldn't hurt to take a look. So, my opinion is only worth the two pennies and I am only listing possibilities. Some of those, unfortunately, are just rather disheartening.
7  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: DLO 3 on: May 08, 2009, 10:41:01 AM
Outstanding. Can't wait to get this pre-ordered.
8  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Long Gun for self-protection on: February 03, 2009, 09:49:43 AM
A pump gun used to be my go to for everything weapon for years, but it is really collecting dust these days. Unless it's to dispatch some critter around the house, if I want a long gun, I go with an AK. Several reasons - a shotgun is pretty good sized and relatively heavy for its six to 8 rounds, my wife doesn't like shooting a shotgun at all, it's hard to move around inside a building with a shotgun (compared to a folding AK), and my wife likes the AK, which is pull the bolt back and just shoot a while. I really can't find a niche for the shotgun that works for me anymore - except the aforementioned critters.
Here's the "disclaimer" part that may allow me to make more sense in my choices - we live way out in the sticks. I could care less where rifle bullets end up, they are not going into someone else's house, they're going into the woods. We have no children, there are only the two of us. It's very likely I'll know where my wife is so as to not shoot through a wall and hit her (I'll listen for gunfire and that's her).
And, my wife specifically asked for a long gun that would penetrate most parts of a car. If someone shows up, she prefers to keep them in their car. We have no uninvited visitors ever.
9  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: My wife kicks movie theater's butt! on: January 19, 2009, 11:02:58 AM
Marc - what a great wife! And, what a dumb thing for the theater to do, running that kind of preview.
Oh, and was the dog hotel movie any good?
My bride wants to see it. Doesn't make much sense to me since we have nine dogs at home, so we're a hotel anyway......
10  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Privacy on: January 07, 2009, 10:14:15 AM
Everything exists on a continuum. The UK is less free than us, more free than most other places.

I worry that we will follow the UK.
11  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Citizens defend themselves/others. on: January 06, 2009, 04:53:42 PM
That is one tough young man. I am really amazed that was possible. Choking out big dogs is not for the meek.  shocked
An outstanding example of quick, courageous action.
12  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: The American Creed: Our Founding Fathers: on: January 06, 2009, 10:12:24 AM
"...or so incoherent that they cannot be understood.." - this seems to be a very good definition of virtually any law. I can't guess what a particular law means today and no telling how it will be interpreted in the future.  huh
13  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Environmental issues on: December 30, 2008, 01:46:18 PM
If Al Gore starts talking, will the solar wind gain power?
14  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Environmental issues on: December 29, 2008, 04:43:45 PM
I saw (a bit of) global warming!!! All the ice around our house melted this weekend when it got to almost 40 degrees - with thunderstorms and a tornado three miles south of us. Now a whole week of this warming stuff and then another snowstorm early next week.

That's it, now I have to wait another year for global warming to come back. Good thing I have a lot of firewood cut.
15  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Waiting for the murders and riots..... on: December 15, 2008, 03:39:14 PM
She's pretty!  grin

I'll pass on the deaths and rioting, sounds like too much work.
16  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Environmental issues on: December 15, 2008, 03:20:19 PM
Just spent this past Saturday with CFL bulbs -- my mom's husband put two in some outdoor outlets that were turned on via a dimmer switch. He wasn't aware that CFLs won't work with dimmers and had spent some hours trying to figure out the problem. And when used with a dusk to dawn switch, my experience is that service life is awful. May be the low voltage at startup? Just not sure. CFLs are definitely not what I was led to believe (a vast improvement over incandescent). Off to LEDs, I guess??

Regarding global warming on the smallest scale (my back yard) - 60 degrees yesterday afternoon, six degrees this morning. I want this warming stuff back!!!
17  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Obama Phenomena on: December 12, 2008, 03:02:22 PM

So does that mean we are stuck with the middle to bottom of the barrel, self-interested candidates forever?

It seems that way to me, unfortunately.
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Is there a way to get smart, interested individuals involved in politics?

Good question. They'd have to be rich enough so they couldn't be bought - or just not be driven by money (but, then how would they run a campaign?) - they'd be putting themselves into a large group of powerful criminals or at the least just a group of shoddy liars and thieves. Sometimes I think that a person like this comes along, takes a look into the political arena and walks off, probably to become successful in business or some other enterprise.

Also, I'll throw this out here. If we take some relatively unknown but very smart (he must be) candidate Obama and take him at face value, we have an energetic guy who wants to clean up government {this is theoretical but serves my purpose of example} = Obama comes from nowhere and gets elected. Now he gets to sit in on some secret briefings, where he finds out that the government isn't quite what he thought when he was on the outside. No, not black helicopter tin foil things, just that the US does things for reasons he didn't know about. He gets quiet and starts to rethink whether he can fulfill any of his campaign promises.

Fill in whatever name for "Obama" as a newcomer dropped into a cesspool. I can't come up with why a smart, clear-thinking person would want any part of politics. If there's someone out there who truly believes in the "greater good," I suspect he or she is doing something like surgery to help people.

I sure hope I am wrong.
18  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Obama Phenomena on: December 12, 2008, 02:42:08 PM
And, as the politicians control more and more, they can promise to spread the wealth to [insert whatever majority of voters here], keeping themselves in favor. I think few people really care about anything other than themselves. Others, those who really are smart and talented enough to run for public office and make a significant difference are also smart enough to not want anything to do with politics.
19  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Survialist issues: Hunkering down at home on: November 24, 2008, 11:54:17 AM
An interesting thread. Maybe it's just me and some "getting older" paranoia, but in the past I did not give much thought to being prepared at home for some length of time. However, since about the end of last year, my wife and I have both reconsidered this and now, while we don't live in a bunker, we do make an effort to have a stock of supplies, pet food, meds - and have been really cutting a lot of firewood for this winter. In the past, the wood stove was only considered a supplement, now it's seen as a possible only source of heat.

I ponder whether this is just crazy thinking or prudent pre-emptive action. But, while I'm pondering, I'm also staying prepared.
20  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Good manners, social graces, and etiquette on: November 20, 2008, 09:28:21 PM
I read this on another forum, oddly enough it's dedicated to the 1930s and 1940s, the so-called "golden age" -- so they talk about that era clothing, fashions and wearing fedoras (I'm into cowboy hats myself). Anyway, I think the entire concept of manners and social graces has just gone away and apologizing for someone else is kind of like that old saying about trying to teach a pig to do something. Makes one upset and annoys the pig, but doesn't solve the initial idea of teaching.
Years ago, I lived in Philadelphia, which I consider the haven of no manners and a big attitude. I moved to nowhere Missouri and everyone was polite. Not much anymore. That PA attitude has moved across the nation.
My observations have led me to the belief that most people are so self-absorbed that they just don't even notice that they are not interacting with others in a reasonable manner. I cite the many drivers chatting or text-messaging on cell phones while simultaneously running others off the road.
I don't believe stating their apology will do much good. I've only found that being mean and ugly looking while driving a giant Dodge pickup makes a bit of difference. But, only a bit.
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