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1  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Myth of the streetfighter? on: August 26, 2003, 06:35:33 AM
There's an article by Joe Lewis http://www.realfighting.com/0102/joelewis.htm comparing the streetfighter to the pro fighter.

Not suprisingly, he mentions several ways in which a pro fighter is far superior to the supposed streetfighter (conditioning, mental attitued ("heart"), technique . . .).=

I suppose he was trying to counter the many articles that downplay the utility of martial arts in reality situations.

Personally, I argee that the best fighters are going to be pro fighters, but so *what*? Tha vast majority of martial artists aren't even amateur fighters, and I doubt that a few years of martial arts training, in which one doesn't compete or at least spar full contact, is any match for an equivalent time learning to sucker-punch, mug-from-behind, and/or deal with live weapons.

I also argree with the Adrenaline training poeple who stress model-muggings etc in their self-defence training. Fear makes a tremendous difference!!  A [good] article at the same site http://www.realfighting.com/0102/billkipp.htm tells how a trained marine found himself in adrenaline paralysis.

I experienced a disturbing lack of composure, almost to the point of allowing my opponent to beat me, when I felt myself in a bad situation at the past Gathering. That was in a very controlled and relatively 'safe' (notwhidthsanding the big dogs with their caveman-sized clubs!) scenario where suprise wasn't a factor, and I knew the intent of my opponent was to beat me rather than finish me.

The streetfighter, I assume has a much better handle on the adrenaline scenario.

Your thoughts?
2  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / damage control on: August 26, 2003, 06:33:12 AM
I just watched the movie again on DVD.

With the help of the slo-mo, I noticed a few nice touches.  In the first confrontation, when they are still playing with empty-hand trapping, Benitio's two attacks are both backhand 'knife hand' hits  to the jugular.  Not the most punishing of strikes, but ones that definately say "if that was a knife, you'd be dead"

Tommy-Lee's smash to the spine could also have been a knife attack, saying 'oh yeah? well if *that* had been a knife..."

During the second fight, there's a quick scene of Benetio tightening a tourniquet on his arm.  That got me thinking about Tom Kier's medical management seminar at the last DBMA camp.

What do you guys think?  Would Tommy Lee's character have survived the damage he took (the worst ones being the blue-worm which evidently didn't penetrate, and the stab through the triceps which was spurting).  Assume that both fighters were wearing pre-applied tourniquets and the like (hell, they knew they were getting in a knife fight!).
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