Dog Brothers Public Forum


Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
January 21, 2018, 02:27:20 PM

Login with username, password and session length
Search:     Advanced search
Welcome to the Dog Brothers Public Forum.
106737 Posts in 2400 Topics by 1095 Members
Latest Member: dannysamuel
* Home Help Search Login Register
  Show Posts
Pages: [1]
1  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Real Fights on: February 06, 2008, 05:26:12 AM
Hi SB_Mig!

Yesterday I had an experience, wich automatically made me think of this:

1) As per Blain - verbally abusive. One of the best diffusers for drunks is a quiet, calm demeanor. I have yet to see an drunk respond to yelling with a smile.

2) Physically intimidating (getting in the face of) - The puffed chest, chin forward stance is just asking for a cold cocking, not to mention escalating.

3) Again as per Blain - Turning his back. This guy is lucky he didn't get hit earlier when he turns to look at the leaving couple (0:03). He then turns completely around (0:15) before blowing it again and engaging with a completely uninvolved patron (0:23).

4) Again per B. - Hands busy, attention elsewhere. Um, pull your hand out of your pocket and put out the cigarette, Einstein.

5) Distance - The doorguy is standing waaaaaaaaay too close for comfort.
Once he had the drunk walking backwards he should have stopped. That would give him a *cough* reason to "create space" when the drunk advanced again.

6) I would add complete disregard to the drunk's clothing and hands. It looks rainy out, but both the patrons departing and the one who walks up are in short sleeves. Why the bulky jacket, fella? The drunk has his hand on his blade at 0:11 in plain view of both. The knife may not be visible, but why is the drunk guy I'm trying to get rid of reaching into his pants?

The doorman I had to deal with (or rather refused to deal with after a minute or two) last night did all of the mistakes above except for 2) and I felt deeply tempted to tell him about it.  grin

Thank you once more for that lesson!

2  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: 300 on: April 08, 2007, 01:20:13 PM
This might be a dumb question and since it was taken from a comic book, I was just wondering about the accuracy of the sword that the Spartans used? I thought it looked pretty cool.

See here:
3  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: 300 on: March 19, 2007, 09:27:19 AM
Two interesting little Films:
4  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Muslims in Britain on: October 13, 2006, 03:22:01 AM
Let them speak for themselves.
5  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Humor on: August 21, 2006, 05:15:04 AM
A Strandh?g (viking raid) gone wrong.

No actual monks or vikings were harmed in the making of this film.

Parental advisory explicit lyrics.

6  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Real Fights on: July 18, 2006, 04:16:14 AM
@ SB_Mig

I've learned a few things and even though I never worked as a doorman, nor have the intention of ever doing so, they might come in handy some day.

I'm also a bit angry at myself, that I failed to notice and mention the chestpuffing, the distance and the clothing, things I used to tell people about myself. Thanks for the reminder.

7  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Doorman film on: July 17, 2006, 10:52:35 AM

In terms of showing how most people react to violent confrontations/situations, I think some of the clips are great. It shows a complete breakdown of what trained fighters would call "structure" and technique.

And in my experience that's what usualy happens. That's why I posted them. After all this thread is called "Real Fights" (and I didn't think the redneck fight to be real enough.) (No offense Tom.)
I wished I would have found more films like the karate-man/pimp-film.

About the doorman film:
I posted that film myself in a previous thread.
I never worked as a doorman myself, but mistakes I see and hear are the following:

1. The doorman provokes the drunk verbally. He first tells him the bar/club/whatever is closed and the knife-man is drunk. When the drunk asks if that`s why he has to go, the doorman answers in an aggressive tone "No, because I say so! Understood?"
2. The doorman than looks somewhere else (equals turning his back to the drunk) and (again in an aggressive tone) says to the incoming man that they're closed, ignoring both, the second doorman, who was already dealing in a calm way with the incomer and the drunk knife-man, who was asking him another question. That way he uneccessarily turned his attention somewhere that actually didn't need it and provoked the drunk at the same time.
Unfortunately the doormans back is covering the drunk as he's pulling the blade out of his pocket, but I think he would have noticed had he paid attention.
3. He's smoking and sticking one hand in his trousers pocket, keeping them busy when they should be alert and ready.
8  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Clements article on: July 16, 2006, 02:08:26 PM
Hi Rafael!

>Btw, the Clements article that was linked was discussed to death on this very forum, and its inherent weaknesses and misinterpretations of Filipino/Spanish history were exposed. <

Yes? Sorry, I didn't know that. Do you recall what the threat was called? I would like to check it out.

9  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Spanish Rapier on: July 15, 2006, 03:09:19 PM

Although this is an old thread, I have a few links for those who are interested.

On Spanish rapier and Filipino stickfighting:

A practical article on Spanish rapier:
10  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Ugly things on: July 15, 2006, 04:48:53 AM
Hi everybody

First I will answer SB Mig's questions, which are directed at me:

>Do you find yourself in the midst of a lot of gang rumbles?<

Not a lot and not anymore. But I've seen it.

>Are you still in high school and threatened by schoolyard bullies?<

Not anymore.

>Are you a soccer hooligan and need to learn better skills in order fight with other clubs or the police?<

Never have been, never will be.

And most important:
>"Which of these situations do you see as important re:self defense or self protection?"<

Of mine: all of them, stressing the keyword AWARENESS.

Most of the fights I posted show the ugly, brutal, unexpected side of street fights and it doesn't matter if you're involved or just a bistander who might get into trouble getting drawn into something by just being in the wrong place at the wrong time (hooligan-fights for example).
Even if you live in a safe area (like I do now) doesn't mean that it's impossible that some complete idiot (or just a drunk who usualy is a nice person when sober) might (seemingly) show up out of nowhere and claim you gave him the wrong look (skater bully and "will ya move it!").
I also have found out that sometimes it is not always a good idea to finish an argument by just turning your back (the kick in the back).
I still consider shooting somebody in the back when you could have tackled to stop him a bad action, even when the shooters are policemen and the shot a criminal. (But that it's a police-action is besides the point im aiming for.)
Have you ever been in a situation where you got attacked by multiple opponents and wondered what you could have done to prevent that in the first place or to get out of it unharmed (high school punchfests and gang jump-in)?

I too think the film with the karate-man to be the only positive, as it shows a perfect example of being aware.

I've experienced or seen any of the posted situations (exept for the shooting and the redneck-fight) and more myself.

All of the films (including the ones I didn't post) show a bit of the animal side of men, the "darkness", the "demon" or whatever you call it.

If you enjoy watching such films: think about yourself. (For example: Is something wrong with me?)
If you don't enjoy watching such films: also think about yourself. (For example: Does the reason I don't enjoy them lie in the fact that I can't bear the ugly reality when It's out of my own little, limited and subjectiv perception?)

In short what I'm trying to say is:
Stay aware, prepare yourself, don't give yourself to illusions or dellusions.
There's always the unexpected.

Nuff said.


P.S.: I don't know any of these "Felony Fights/Bum Fights/Ghetto Fights"-websites and definitely don't want to promote them.
P.P.S.: I also don't know if the films I posted were set up. I wasn't there when they were filmed. But that is beside the point I'm aiming for anyway.
11  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Real Fights on: July 14, 2006, 05:00:59 AM
More Ugly...
12  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Real Fights on: July 14, 2006, 04:55:58 AM
13  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Real Fights on: July 14, 2006, 04:49:29 AM

Karate works!
14  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Ugly on: July 10, 2006, 04:19:35 PM

Some Knife attacks

and the result of one
15  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Ugly on: July 10, 2006, 04:15:29 PM

I have found some realy ugly s**t.
Not realy funny but real and one of the reasons why I train...
16  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / African Stickfighting on: July 06, 2006, 06:02:06 AM

I don't know, but perhaps these links might be of help:

17  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Another film I found on: July 03, 2006, 06:09:31 AM

Stay aware!

18  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Communication with Moslems on: June 29, 2006, 08:22:15 AM
Hi everybody!

First I'm not going to comment on the last reply in this discussion as I think that everybody here is grown up enough to make up his own opinion.

All I want to share here are a few experiences I personally had with moslems, making absolutely no reference to the media or political actions done by any government.
I am aware that what I write here is generalized, simplified and, of course, subjective.

I live in a place where it?s easy to meet many Moslems (Berlin in Germany) as well as people of other religions. Most moslems are Turks, Kurds, Arabians and North Africans. I had many conversations with several of these people on a variety of subjects, including religion.

One commonality was that none (of the men) considered they could ever be of any other religion, which is fair enough in my eyes since I as both, an infidel in the moslem sense and heathen in the christian sense, feel the same about my own religion. But what kind of bugs me is that many, but not all, expressed opinions that Islam is the only true religion and everybody should be part of it to make the world a better place. The first two who said so did by themselves while others just agreed when I brought it up myself. Two (not the first two) took that as an opinion to try and convert me. One I recall as being an Egyptian actualy threatened me with Allah to judge me when I die and send me to hell for eternal punishment if I don?t follow the only true way. The other, who was a Saudi, tried to discuss it and convince me.

Another thing is that when politics come up, pretty much everybody seems willing to condemn violence in general but when we?re talking about terrorism in the name of Islam most react in an evasive way while a few even go as far as claiming that the West, especially the US and Israel, leave the islamic world with no other choice.

Very few would discuss the actual contents of Islam. Why that is I?m not sure but I got the impression that many don?t really know much about it and Islam is something like a habit. I might be wrong there.
Perhaps an explanation can be given by a Turkish father I know who wouldn?t send his children to islamic school for (quote:) ? there they only get taught to hate everybody else?.

One of the almost-fights I had was with an asumed Turk who had an argument with his girlfriend and threatened to beat her. That happened in the underground train and I only include it here because he called me an ?unbelieving pig? who shouldn?t interfere when he?s arguing with ?his? (yes, he repeatedly stressed that word in the pronunciation) woman.

One Tunesian I met had am interesting conspiracy theory concerning 9/11, because "Moslems would never do such a thing". He was convinced that it was the Germans and the attack was not against the US but against the Jews and their economic power represented by the world trade center. All evidence for Moslems being behind it was faked later.

These are just a few of my experiences with Moslems. I have also had good experiences, which have nothing to do with Islam, but the overall picture I get is the following:

I rather don?t trust them when it?s about their fellow believers or when there is an argument between ?them? and ?us?, even when I?m not convinced that ?we? are right. (I am aware that this sentence is extremely generalizing and simplifying.)

I could write so much more but I don?t know why I should and want to keep this brief.
I also hope I didn?t offend anybody but if so there is nothing I can do about it. I won?t appologize for my experiences or the conclusions I draw from them.

As a final word for this entry I want to say, that I will stick to treating everybody as an individual first and a member of a group second.

Nuff? said

19  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Unarmed Knife Defense on: June 27, 2006, 01:31:02 AM
Hi everybody

I recently found this curious little film on the net and wondered if it or its makers are already known here.

Pages: [1]
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!