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51  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Non Citizens Voting on: November 10, 2016, 11:42:26 AM
Thank you sir.

Very good work, DDF.
52  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Non Citizens Voting on: November 10, 2016, 10:49:45 AM
Rachel Maddow states that Donald Trump talked about rounding up and deporting more than 10,000,000 people at the 23:20 mark in her/MSNBC's election night coverage here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzC7x2Yq2rQ


Which means, that by democratic admission on total numbers of illegals in the country (because she didn't dispute the number, and in fact used it as a quote against Trump), that the article posted by Doug yesterday, having 13-25% (per the article) of noncitizens casting votes (noting that at times, they are only discovered by their own admission during Customs interviews):

13% of Illegal Aliens Admit They Vote
http://www.capoliticalreview.com/capoliticalnewsandviews/poll-13-of-illegal-aliens-admit-they-vote/
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A poll by John McLaughlin confirms again we may have a significant problem with noncitizens participating illegally in our elections. Based on a sample survey of 800 Hispanics in 2013, McLaughlin found that of foreign-born respondents who were registered voters, 13 percent admitted they were not United States citizens.
http://dailysignal.com/2015/06/02/poll-shows-noncitizens-can-shape-elections/

This translates into untold numbers of fraudulent votes. Those are only the ones that admit to it. The number could be as high as 10,000,000. If there is no penalty, no danger of being discovered, and huge rewards awaiting, people who are prohibited from voting, could consider themselves foolish not to vote, especially when Barack Obama himself mentions it, if not encouraging it, (and I'm purposely citing SNOPES because of their liberal slant, in order to take away any defense of the matter):

http://www.snopes.com/obama-encouraged-illegal-aliens-to-vote/

Snopes: "The claim originates from an interview with Obama published on 3 November 2016, in which millennial actress Gina Rodriguez asked the president about a number of issues facing young Latinos. Many of the outrage posts were written around a video in which the majority of the president's response was edited out to give the misleading impression that Obama was urging undocumented immigrants to vote illegally.

In the full interview, it's clear Obama is urging Latino citizens to vote in order to give voice to members of their community who are precluded from doing so by lack of citizenship, not urging non-citizens to vote illegally. Rodriguez's question seems to be addressing a fear that voting will result in scrutiny on one's family which could result in deportation of undocumented relatives." End.

It is clear who Obama is addressing, per Snope's own admission.

The interview transcript:

RODRIGUEZ: Many of the millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens -- and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country -- are fearful of voting. So if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?

OBAMA: Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself. And there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, et cetera. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential in terms of who you voted for. If you have a family member who maybe is undocumented, then you have an even greater reason to vote.

RODRIGUEZ: This has been a huge fear presented especially during this election.

OBAMA: And the reason that fear is promoted is because they don't want people voting. People are discouraged from voting and part of what is important for Latino citizens is to make your voice heard, because you're not just speaking for yourself. You're speaking for family members, friends, classmates of yours in school...

RODRIGUEZ: Your entire community.

OBAMA: ... who may not have a voice. Who can't legally vote. But they're counting on you to make sure that you have the courage to make your voice heard.


Analysis:

Obama could not have possibly been referring to a citizen having "fear" to vote, because it is clearly established by law that any citizen can vote, and he clearly states that:

"there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, et cetera."

Obama made it a point, to make that portion clear, when he didn't have to, because there is no legal reprobation for claiming a legal right available to any citizen. The only reason he could make an issue of investigatory practices, is solely to inform people that are legally prohibited from voting.

Summation:

1.) It is clear that Obama encourages the practice from his own words:

2.) Non-citizens by their own admission and through existing authorities have both admitted to voting and have been caught doing so.

3.) There are at least 10,000,000 non-citizens in the country. Other sources claim it to be as high as 13.7% of the total population of which:

     a.)The term "foreign-born" includes naturalized citizens, legal permanent residents, visa holders and undocumented immigrants.

     b.) Making it clear, that it isn't just "undocumented" people that can vote illegally.

          http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/09/28/us-foreign-born-population-nears-high/72814674/

     c.) USCIS themselves state that in the last decade, 6.6 million naturalized citizens were admitted and that roughly .6 million are admitted annually.

          https://www.uscis.gov/archive/archive-news/naturalization-fact-sheet - (curiously, in 2008, a key election year, more than a million were admitted - bottom of page)

4.) Based on USCIS statistics, US Census figures (Table 1.1 of the following link) and the article quoted above, there are 21,707,000 people pending citizenship (6.8% of the current US population of 318.9 million) as of 2005 http://www.census.gov/data/tables/2005/demo/foreign-born/cps-2005.html , plus, an additional 10-15 million people that are not documented (4.7% at 15 million), comprising a full 11.5% of the total population (36,673,500 people).

5.) Total voter turnout in 2016 was 130,840,000, with 231,556,622 being eligible to vote (56.5% of eligible voters, voted) http://www.electproject.org/2016g , which means that of eligible voters, the numbers from #4.) now represent 16.59% of documented aliens that don't have citizenship in regard to votes actually cast, and undocumented people in the country represent 11.464%, combining to make a total of 28.054% if total population of the US were counted as "cast ballots," and of which 28.054%, 13-25% admit to voting illegally, comprising  4,771,734 to 9,335,434 illegal votes cast,

NOTING: that though the percentages from USCIS constitute the total documented population number regardless of age, that owing to lack of voter registration laws, there is nothing stopping them from casting a ballot for everyone in their household.

ALSO NOTING: that the above numbers only reference people that admit to the practice of voting illegally, based on percentages.

ALSO NOTING: that many "Dreamer" children lean liberally, are very politically active, and are the children of people not permitted. It bears mentioning, that the children of immigrants who are naturalized citizens, ALSO vote Democratically.


SOLUTION:

1.) There is no inherent right to immigrate to the US, and the idea that there is, perpetuated largely by the Left, needs to be rectified.

2.) Voter ID laws need to be in place.

3.) ALL electronic voting machines need to be removed immediately, and replaced with paper ballots.

4.) ALL polling sites need to be monitored by both CAMERA and multiple, non-serving, citizen representatives from each party represented on the ballot.

5.) STIFF voter and electoral fraud prison sentences of 10 years or more need to be in place.

6.) Voter and electoral fraud investigative units cannot be made up of any politicians, lawyers, nor any businessman and must have civilian oversight.

7.) ALL undocumented individuals need to be deported without judicial representation, to their point of entry into the States, including any children born to them on US soil, and the 14th amendment rectified, to avoid people from cheating existing immigration laws that other legal immigrants sacrifice much in order to obey.
53  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / The Mexican Constitution says on: November 09, 2016, 09:58:17 PM
Exactly my point. I think I've proven what I would give for Mexican people, and I only point that out because of the tribe (or elseI wouldn't even mention it and just be called "racist" because it doesn't phase me), but there comes a point when a country's inhabitants need to decide whether they want to keep it or not.

It's obvious, due to proximity, that many Mexicans have relatives in the US and others that have lived in the States for generations, without papers and have had anchor babies.

The anchor babies almost always vote Democratically, because the Democrats are the only ones promising to give the US away to whoever will support their political power.

I'm of the thought that the 14th needs to have the slave loophole fixed, and every single person in the country AND any children they've had, deported immediately.

Just to remind everyone of Mexico's policy on the matter, which is written RIGHT into the National Constitution:


"Artículo 33. Son personas extranjeras las que no posean las calidades determinadas en el artículo 30 constitucional y gozarán de los derechos humanos y garantías que reconoce esta Constitución.
Párrafo reformado DOF 10-06-2011
 
El Ejecutivo de la Unión, previa audiencia, podrá expulsar del territorio nacional a personas extranjeras con fundamento en la ley, la cual regulará el procedimiento administrativo, así como el lugar y tiempo que dure la detención.
Párrafo adicionado DOF 10-06-2011
 
Los extranjeros no podrán de ninguna manera inmiscuirse en los asuntos políticos del país."

Article 33. Foreigners are those who do not possess the qualifications set forth in Article
30. They are entitled to the guarantees granted by Chapter I, Title I, of the present Constitution; but the Federal Executive shall have the exclusive power to compel any foreigner whose remaining he may deem inexpedient to abandon the national territory immediately and without the necessity of previous legal action.

Foreigners may not in any way participate in the political affairs of the country.


Mexico CLEARLY knows this presents a danger to their country and will not stand for it.

The United States shouldn't either.

Trump bought us time, but the cancer is far from remission.
54  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 13% of Illegal Aliens Admit They Vote on: November 09, 2016, 09:31:45 PM
13% of Illegal Aliens Admit They Vote

Just based off of Hillary's voters in California, where they get driver's licences, that translates to 712,681 votes (if we count 13% of the populace, the figure grows substantially).

It more than underscores the fact that the Democrats are giving the United States away to people that will vote for them.

Time to send Dreamers home and fix the 14th amendment (IF one still cares about having a country).

"13% of Illegal Aliens Admit They Vote"

That would certainly be more than enough to explain Trump's popular vote loss.

No rigging folks.  Move along.   Keep order here.

Exactly my appraisal, bearing in mind, those are just the ones that admit to a crime.
55  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Trump Administration on: November 09, 2016, 05:40:31 PM
Can Obama pardon Clinton from the Clinton foundation investigation even though there is not indictment or conviction?
I would not be surprised if he does it.  
Trump should not IMHO


If he makes sure that she's indicted before he leaves, he most definitely can. All he has to do is pick up the phone and call Lynch, and you can bet that discussion has already taken place.

I'm wondering if I feel strongly enough about her being pardoned to offer wagers. I'm feeling confident.

Edit: Afterthought.... If Obama does decide to get Lynch to press charges, he needs to be careful, because it may lead investigators to the trail, that leads to Obama.

I don't think a president can pardon himself.
56  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Trump's Cabinet on: November 09, 2016, 05:38:21 PM
A few ideas about who and what per USA Today.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/11/09/donald-trump-cabinet-white-house/93549214/

"Rudy Giuliani

The ex-New York City mayor became one of Trump's highest-profile surrogates. The former prosecutor could now be in line for attorney general.

Newt Gingrich

The ex-House speaker became a top adviser and television spokesperson for Trump during the campaign and was even among the real estate mogul's finalists for running mate. He is said to be interested in becoming secretary of State.

Bob Corker

The chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee could also be a possibility to lead the State Department.

Ben Carson

A onetime Trump rival, Carson emerged as one of Trump's most steadfast surrogates. The renowned physician would be an obvious candidate to be surgeon general.

Mike Flynn

The retired general emerged as Trump's most visible military adviser. He could be in line for Defense secretary or some other national security position.

Jeff Sessions

During the primary campaign, Sessions became the first sitting member of the U.S. Senate to endorse Trump's campaign. Now, the Alabama senator could be another possibility to lead the Pentagon.

Reince Priebus

The chairman of the Republican National Committee — which ran the Trump campaign's get-out-the-vote operation — could wind up as Trump's White House chief of staff.

Steve Mnuchin

Trump's finance chairman, formerly of Goldman Sachs, is in line to possibly become Treasury secretary.

Chris Christie

Though shadowed by the recent Bridgegate trial, the New Jersey governor has been a fixture at Trump's side since endorsing him in February and will likely have his eye on a spot in the new administration at the Justice Department or in the White House.

Steve Bannon

The Breitbart News executive became Trump's campaign CEO in August. He could be in line for a spot as a White House adviser.

Mike Pence

While his job is already known — vice president — the Indiana governor and former congressman is expected to play a large role in the Trump administration as a partner to the  new president, who lacks any experience serving in government."

Dislike not seeing Trey Gowdy in there, or Chaffetz for that matter. I'm not familiar if USA Today has any particulr leaning politically which might motivate their picks.

I also heavily dislike seeing Reince Priebus there at all, but that's just me.

Edit: Just to back up the cabinet positions, WAPO also makes some of the same observations:

"Rudy Giuliani, Kellyanne Conway, Newt Gingrich, Reince Priebus, Corey Lewandowski, Ben Carson."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/11/09/are-rudy-reince-newt-the-new-members-of-a-trump-cabinet/
57  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: November 09, 2016, 05:32:08 PM
This should have been a landslide for us.  Trump made it very hard for many of our fellow Americans to see him as presidential.

I think you're right and that is the crux of it.
58  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: November 09, 2016, 01:50:28 PM
   I TOLD YOU SO!!!   

I don't know where the high five button is.... but that's what the sentiment is.

I'm still puzzled by the amount of suport Clinton got in the popular vote. I will be examining that heavily.
59  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: November 09, 2016, 01:47:13 PM
DDF and PP and Michael Moore - congratulations on calling it.   What does Nate Silver know?

Amazing he still won with everything against him.

I think this loss (Hillary losing the election)  cancels out the my wins (Hillary running for President, winning the primary and being the DNC nominee) with DougMacG!    I won't need bunker food after all.    grin

A champaign toast to all !




Everyone here has great teachers. Many are surprised when I tell them what I learn from here, from you all. More than anything, an influx of different mindsets, sources, and critical thinking.

The compliment goes to people here. This is great place to learn.

Now.... just hoping he does his job. Without law... we're all back in tribal warfare in an immediate sense.
60  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: November 09, 2016, 01:43:48 PM
Analogous to the famous phrase of Bill Clinton, "the era of big government is over"  I have to believe the era of Clintons is over.  She is done.  She was the worst candidate, high negatives, etc
Dems wil never nominate her again.

Personally I think Trump should let HIS justice department and the FBI do their jobs when investigating the Clinton Foundation.  We should not simply move on and let this go unchecked.  We need confidnece in our government and in the justice system.

I agree, with the exception, that new directors should be appointed.
61  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: November 09, 2016, 12:36:55 PM
I nailed every state except for one, and I was still wrong.

I have seen immigrant after immigrant supporting the Left.

Even with the amount of fraud, illegal voters, etc., that could have taken place, the overwhelming support of who the people allowed into the country support, is of much concern.

I wish I had been correct in the popular vote. Unfortunately, on this component of it, I was dead wrong. I had Trump figured for 8 points. He lost the popular by .249%

That's a problem.
62  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: November 09, 2016, 01:09:52 AM
I have never been so happy to be wrong. Props to DDF for calling it.

This really feels like getting a pardon by the governor a minute before execution.

I honestly pray Trump does a good job. God really loves this country despite our best efforts.

I miscalled a couple of States.... I'll take the hit for not being completely correct because I'm so happy it isn't her. Tally everything up tomorrow. See what I missed. I already know I missed the popular vote margin.

Cheers GM.... now for term limits.

Ps.... I hope Trump does a good job too. I'm not yet sure of that.
63  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc. on: November 08, 2016, 12:12:00 AM
The only really important question...

Has their been anything at all, that has given you (as an American), distrust in the American electoral process, or made you suspicious of fraud?

If that answer is "yes," how can you, as an American, trust that you are governing yourself, and not being lorded over?

You can't.
64  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Players in the Clinton Machine on: November 07, 2016, 01:08:57 AM
I start my first day working for a law office tomorrow... but I will see what I have. I have some files saved on a thumb drive and will look into it.

40+ years, a foundation, several countries and major donors all coupled with corruption and cash. This is going to take a while.
65  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Great Fear on: November 07, 2016, 01:06:52 AM
All of a sudden, the conspiracy guys don’t sound so nutty as their theories are playing out in the news.

After all, the crackpots and conspiracy nuts have been right a lot lately.

We were never wrong, got posts going back years ago... saying the same thing... many people do.

It isn't "crazy and crackpotted" when you're right.

We were wrong about two things though...

1.) We though people cared. Clinton supporters clearly don't, and if that's true, given the Republican support for Clinton in some cases. and human nature, then conservatives don't care either.

2.) The apparent willingness of people to be ruled rather than governing themselves, so long as the whip rests lightly, or not.}

The founding fathers were never more correct.
66  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Media and Internet on: November 07, 2016, 12:58:28 AM
Twitter was down broefly this evening, and Wikileaks said they are under attack; all after Wikileaks just realeased another 8000 emails.

The Clinton camp is telling the public to ignore the emails.

Wikileaks has a 10 year track record of 100% accuracy.
67  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: November 06, 2016, 07:06:59 PM
There is only one way this mockery is going to end. And it will not be by the act of just one person.

The only thing I have not figured out, is if there are people unknown doing it on purpose.

You cannot make a mockery of justice, of class, and of the rule of law, without there being significant consequences.

The only good thing about Hillary's election is that it makes where we are as a nation crystal clear.

You know.... you're quite correct about that. The other good thing (as I have often realized in my own life), we're usually exactly where we need to be, to learn what we need to learn and do what we need to do. Nature is perfect in that sense.
68  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Obama encourages illegal alien voting on: November 06, 2016, 07:05:35 PM

 angry angry angry
69  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 60,000 felons in VA pardoned to vote on: November 06, 2016, 05:33:39 PM

We crossed that finish line in 2008. We are all about to be playing an entirely different game soon.

This gentleman really has an excellent take on all of this.

https://www.facebook.com/bill.whittle/videos/10154934274357454/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED
70  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: November 06, 2016, 05:31:38 PM
There is only one way this mockery is going to end. And it will not be by the act of just one person.

The only thing I have not figured out, is if there are people unknown doing it on purpose.

You cannot make a mockery of justice, of class, and of the rule of law, without there being significant consequences.
71  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc. on: November 05, 2016, 07:16:14 PM
I don't know if people picked up on it, but the information and system can be accessed through wifi/hardline, which automatically means that it can be controlled remotely, by the intended recipient, or anyone else.
72  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Putinism on: November 04, 2016, 08:30:53 PM

In March, Moscow commentator Yevgeni Ikhlov charged Putin with introducing a "left fascism" that, while "anti-market and quasi-collectivist," is "fascism because it is a form of a militant and most primitive philistinism."

He says that like it is a bad thing.
73  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: November 03, 2016, 12:21:53 AM
After this evening's news all bets are off!!!  evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil

PGC, of any student you've ever had, few, if any, like to wager more than I do.

How about them Cubs?? Wow!!!

Edit: I used to live down the street from Wrigley Field, and I never even imagined.... wow.
74  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 election, what if Trump and the Republicans win? on: November 03, 2016, 12:05:00 AM
I have been silent on DDF's prediction of a Trump landslide only because of the failure of my own predictions, that Hillary won't run, won't win the nomination if she does run and won't win if nominated.  That bet seemed well hedged yet I already lost on 2 counts, owing significant meal tabs (canned food from my bunker?) to my friend ccp.

The analysis of this election outside of DDF has focused on what will come of the Republicans Party if they lose it all this year.  20 million new Democrat voters will change things forever.  So will the Court.  The pendulum won't swing back and forth again when we keep adding large weights to one side.

Trump - 63,500,000
Clinton - 55,640,000
Stein - 5,469,000 (counting her .5 million from 2012)
Johnson - 3,775,000 (counting the 1.27 mil he had from 2012)

Trump 52%

Hillary 44%

Needless to say, these aren't electoral college votes, nor are they swing state votes.

So let's cover the swing state votes now... I thought I had a while ago, but can't find it here.

Politico tabulated polls in what they view to be 11 swing states: http://www.politico.com/2016-election/swing-states

Clinton winning - NV, CO, WI, MI, NH, PA, VA, and NC or 93 electoral votes
Trump winning - Florida, Ohio, and Iowa or 53 electoral votes

****Just going to say it now.... Politico, a known Clinton hack job is smoking crack****



270toWin, has Clinton ahead 258 to Trump's 157 as of this writing (the owner does a good job at hiding his party affiliation, but his wife donates to the Left). http://www.270towin.com/maps/2016-election-toss-up-states

Their appraisal?

Blue States: WA, OR, CA, CO, NM, MN, IL, MI, NY, PA, VA, VT, HI, MD, RI, CT, NJ, DE, MA, DC, and 3/4's of ME = 258 (20.75 states + DC)

Red States: ID, MT, WY, SD, ND, KS, OK, TX, MO, AR, LA, IN, KY, TN, MS, AL, WV, SC, AK, and 4/5's of NE = 157 (19.8 states)

Split States: NV, UT, AZ, WI, IA, OH, NC, GA, FL, NH, 1/5 of NE, and 1/4 of ME = 123 (10.45 states)



Also, to be fair, we should include 538's by Nate Silver (also a liberal hack - I've posted evidence about him and 270 previously)
has called it:
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

Clinton - 295
Trump - 241

Broken down accordingly:

Blue States - WA, OR, CA, NV, CO, NM, MN, WI, IL, MI, ME, NH, VT, NY, MA, RI, CT, NJ, DE, MD, PA, VA, HI, NC & DC (24 states + DC)(NV & NC to Clinton by  <1%)

Red States - ID, UT, AZ, AK, MT, WY, ND, SD, NE, IA, KS, OK, TX, MO, AR, LA, MS, AL, IN, KY, TN, GA, SC, WV, OH, & FL (26 states)(FL to Trump by 1.6%)


Glaring Defects:

Arizona, Iowa and Utah - 538 shows them thoroughly red. 270 shows them split, so doesn't count them against Trump.

Nebraska and Maine - the split states, 538 gives one to each, 270 almost does the same, favoring Clinton by 1 vote from Maine.

Ohio - 270 counts it as a split, 538 has it going thoroughly red.

NC - 538 has it going blue by .2%, 270 doesn't factor it, Politico says Clinton barely wins it.

Florida - Politico and 538 give it to Trump. 270 doesn't factor it.

Virginia, Pennsylvania and Colorado - all three give them to Clinton, and by several points.



Where they're wrong:

The electoral college, will go like this (assuming GM didn't call the voter fraud correctly - I myself am an ID and paper ballot kind of guy, but I'll stand by this):

Red States: AK, UT, NV, AZ, ID, MT, WY, ND, SD, NE, KS, OK, TX, IA, MO, AR, LA, AL, MS, IN, OH, TN, KY, WV, GA, SC, FL, NC, MI, WI, PA, and 1/2 of Maine. (31 states, each devoid of people that need safe spaces).

I also think that NH and CO stand a good chance of going Trump's way as well.

So, I'm calling Trump with at least 311 electoral votes, knowing full well.... that Clinton has a supporter population between L.A., NYC, Chicago, and Seattle (80 million people between the four states - a major portion of her voting age supporters, and the FULL BULK of her hispanic voters that aren't in Texas), and Trump is STILL going to smash her in the electoral college and popular vote.


To recap:

Trump 52%

Hillary 44%

Trump with a minimum of 311 electoral votes.

If I'm wrong, I'll let you hit me at a gathering.
75  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Sharyl Attkinson: No spin summary of the FBI report on: November 02, 2016, 10:39:07 PM

YES. IT. DOES.
76  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Mexico Secretary of Defense Calls for More Troops, Less Restrictions on: November 01, 2016, 01:40:30 PM
"Immersed for ten years in an endless war against drugs, Cienfuegos publicly admitted "burnout" of his troops, ordered more troops before the immensity of the task and called for a legal framework to regulate their presence in the streets.
"There is burnout"; Obviously, we are working across the country, at all times, at all times; in the mountains, in the cities," General Cienfuegos, after inaugurating a seminar on National Defense.

http://internacional.elpais.com/internacional/2016/10/20/mexico/1476926996_750184.html?id_externo_rsoc=fbads_ep_mx_ejerc
77  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Cyberwar, Cyber Crime, and American Freedom on: November 01, 2016, 12:39:42 PM
PGC...and incredibly valid point.

Hope you don't mind if I steal this... it is a point that needs to be circulating on social media.
78  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Interesting theory from sometimes nut case Lew Rockwell on: November 01, 2016, 10:42:32 AM

Should have been filed under "Things That Make You Warm With Happiness."
79  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Venezuela on: November 01, 2016, 09:39:40 AM
FTR, I too take issue with Stratfor's citing of a confidential informant as their source in knowing that ISIS is here in Mexico.

Also, it's good to have a firsthand account of what is happeneing in Venezuela captianccs, thank you. It interests me a great deal, because here too, there have been things that have been going on, and Mexico is socialist in nature, and I'm not certain that we're not all that far behind you, especially with the American elections looming, the importance of the American economy here in Mexico... strange days indeed.

I am curious though, are people as a whole, accustomed to violence in Venezuela, as far as having become desensitized to it, as with here?
80  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Schlafly on voter fraud on: November 01, 2016, 12:03:36 AM

I agree with everything except the felons not being able to vote. They're citizens, they're taxed, and they're expected to abide by the law... and if they don't have the right to vote in their own country, once they're law abiding, you don't have a right to expect them to not shoot you (just as was done by the colonists to the English).

I don't like democrats either, but the idea that they're expected to behave and pay taxes, and when they do so, not have a political voice, I don't agree with that at all.

Edit: The laws to regain one's rights are far too restrictive and cumbersome. They need to be made automatic after a certain period of time lapses, and until they are (a full restoration of rights), people have no right to expect them to participate in a system that will punish them eternally.

How many people speed, get a ticket, but they aren't kept from driving forever. People hold felons to a standard worse than they hold their own marriages to, which are supposed to be forever, but in felon's cases, "forever," is forever. I'm surprised more of them don't go full tilt. It isn't as though they're ever accepted again, even when they do everything correctly.
81  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Venezuelans Now Weighing Their Cash Instead of Counting It on: October 31, 2016, 09:55:52 PM
Supporting what GM just posted.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-31/tired-of-counting-piles-of-cash-venezuelans-start-weighing-them
82  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Wikileaks shows us the presstitutes on: October 31, 2016, 12:29:23 AM
https://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/14595645_1305646716121432_2887387022632313478_n.jpg

Bigdog unavailable for comment on the professional journalists, with credentials!

The fact that they don't even attempt to hide it anymore, is disgusting. My wife is a journalist and television reporter as well, and the subject of impartiality presents itself to her, and she has to maintain it.

The journalists back home don't even try.
83  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The news on: October 28, 2016, 03:16:12 PM
DDF:   "Comey Re-opens Clinton Investigation"

Don't  know what it means,
but at least a few hours of pleasure reading from the
[Editor’s note: Donald Trump regularly incites political violence and is a serial liar,rampant xenophobe, racist, misogynist and birther who has repeatedly pledged to ban all Muslims — 1.6 billion members of an entire religion — from entering the U.S.] "  website:

Gotta love the headline: "WTF FBI"

 cool cheesy

PS:
The jornolisters, DAvid Kendell and other mobsters are behind the scenes getting their alibi story coordinated and also lining up more women to come forward one a day for 11 more days as we speak.

Evidently the "new" emails that are turning up, are from Huma Abedin's estranged husband's phone, in regard to the investigation against him concerning sexting.
84  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Comey Re-opens Clinton Investigation on: October 28, 2016, 12:45:28 PM
Comey hedging his bets....

If she wins, he buries it... and she looks like she's been exhonerated to the Left.

If he wins, he looks like he tried to do the right thing and keeps his bacon out of the fire.

Just disgusting.

https://www.rt.com/usa/364586-comey-reopens-clinton-investigation/
85  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues on: October 28, 2016, 11:58:55 AM
"It is much easier to defend incompetence than mens rea, which is needed in almost any crime"

This morning guest LEFT commentator, Eugene Robinson from  the wash compost  was blaming *Cheryl Mills* for the emails that prove Obama knew (of course he didn't notice the lack of "state.gov" another lawyer trick) before he was on TV saying he only learned of it from the news like you and me ( rolleyes angry).   The people around Hildabeast did not "serve her well".  Thus deflecting the responsibility from "her" to her "aides".

And of course he ignores any notion that Obama lied or was obviously covered up the whole thing

Not surprising though from  Eugene who wears race colored glasses all day long and about everything he sees.



They better be defending it. The penalties for treason are stiff. If I was them, I would be acting like I had an IQ of 60.
86  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: When Socialism Fails - Venezuela on: October 27, 2016, 06:28:23 PM
Just print more money... it isn't earned, is owned by everyone, backed by nothing, and should be distributed to all.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-27/venezuela-throws-towel-hyperinflation-will-print-200x-higher-denominated-bills



Good thing that could never happen here.

Quit it.... you're making me laugh when I'm trying to keep a straight face.
87  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Let them eat cake on: October 27, 2016, 05:05:18 PM
At the very beginning one can hear her ask "why can't you get any closer" - because she is maybe 3 feet away from the steps!   Notice the slave reach for the umbrella at the top:

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/video-hillary-stumbles-boarding-campaign-plane/

I personally found the second video, with her needing help onto a step box that was about 8 inches in height, to be much worse.
88  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / When Socialism Fails - Venezuela on: October 27, 2016, 03:19:45 PM
Just print more money... it isn't earned, is owned by everyone, backed by nothing, and should be distributed to all.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-27/venezuela-throws-towel-hyperinflation-will-print-200x-higher-denominated-bills

89  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Politically (In)correct on: October 27, 2016, 03:15:55 PM
 grin grin grin grin grin
90  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Corruption, Skullduggery, and Treason on: October 27, 2016, 03:15:32 PM
It takes two sides agreeing to impeach and remove from office.  I wonder what a leader on their side could do, if not any or all of these, to rise to an impeachable offense for Democrats.

How is it we can't all agree what was done in these examples is wrong, is criminal, and justifies swift action to protect the country and keep future leaders from doing more of the same or worse?!  I am astonished at how otherwise informed, intelligent, liberal friends know nothing about almost all of these scandals.  The exposure is almost all in the right leaning media, not reaching the general public.

 I wonder what a leader on their side could do... if it had been a Republican.

How is it we can't all agree what was done in these examples is wrong, is criminal, and justifies swift action to protect the country and keep future leaders from doing more of the same or worse?!... the ends justify the means. This is by far your more important question. The war (and there is one), in the States, isn't between the Right and the Left; it's between capitalism and socialism, between sovereignty (of any country - especially countries with high GDPs) and globalization.
91  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: For the Record... on: October 27, 2016, 02:19:29 PM
18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason (Hillary Clinton... talking to you)

"Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

This is specific to aiding our enemies, applies to Hillary on the Uranium deal for example.  The Obama crimes like IRS targeting are more internal to subverting our constitution and imploding our country.  I would like to see the federal law applying to that.  It might come down to simply violating his oath of office.

That is correct, and why I posted it.

Aiding enemies:

Obama - Cash to Iran... numerous times... and helping them obtain nuclear technology, and then even CNN printing this: http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/02/politics/state-department-report-terrorism/ calling them state sponsors of terrorism.

"The State Department on Thursday released its annual report on global terrorist activity, listing Iran as the top state sponsor of terrorism and labeling ISIS "the greatest threat globally."

Clinton - Just as you've stated, but they're so much more.... the emails, servers, Benghazi, and we can keep going... it applies.

Lynch - purposely not bringing charges.

Comey - same as Lynch.

Holder - Fast and Furious, with "executive privilege" from Obama saving his bacon. Those weapons went directly to hostile enemies of both the Mexican and American governments and they'v been called "terrorist organizations... " by US politicians. We all know that there have been several accusations of ISIS slipping into the US from the southern border, with and without cartels helping.... and Holder sends them weapons.

If any of the above, isn't aiding American enemies or giving them comfort, what is?
92  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / For the Record... on: October 27, 2016, 10:41:06 AM
18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason (Hillary Clinton... talking to you)

"Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)
93  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues, Wash Post fact check Russian Uranium deal on: October 26, 2016, 09:50:20 AM

The questioned whether Trump had proof that the Secretary of State had any involvement with a highest level, national security decision that was made by her department.  I would hope she did.  Good grief.


This has become a common theme to anything Hillary has had something (or should have had), to do with.

It is a legal defense. Plain and simple.

It is much easier to defend incompetence than mens rea, which is needed in almost any crime. They make her seem stupid and incompetent on purpose. She is anything but.
94  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: No corruption here. Move along folks. FBI tried to cover Obama's tracks. on: October 26, 2016, 09:28:58 AM


Even though he lies and gets caught all the time, this one is a big deal.  It explains why they didn't prosecute her.

His personal and political mis-use of the agencies, Fast and Furious - ATF, Attorney General, IRS targeting - IRS Commissioner, and now this, FBI, Dept of Justice, comprises RICO level crimes and impeachable acts.

To the Lois Lerner's in the agencies who know, you can come forward and tell us what you were directed to do and by whom or you can be prosecuted as part of the corruption conspiracy.

If it isn't treason, I'd like to know what is. The double standards are absurd. There are so many cases, of so many, doing so much less, and sentenced away for so long, that how any of this isn't a slap in the face to the entire country, is just incredible.

It seems, the Achilles heel of the United States has been found. It also points out that the founding fathers were correct... wise men, well beyond their time.
95  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: VDH is the one who is most in touch on: October 25, 2016, 01:48:01 PM
Getting along, reaching across the aisle , get government working again, getting things done sounds nice.


Sounds nice to who? Not to people who value the Constitution and find it to be the ideal standard of guaranteed rights, not some "work of fiction."


Folks it is over.   We have lost unless by some miracle Trump pulls this out.


That's a lie. Clinton doesn't have half of the support her purchased media states. Neither her nor Kaine can fill a high school gymnasium, and Trump routinely pulls in 10's of thousands of people to his events.

Try again.
96  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: October 25, 2016, 01:43:06 PM
"We have lost unless by some miracle Trump pulls this out."

Far from the truth. Even with the machines in Cook County, Illinois, and Counties in Texas, switching votes to Democratic picks, due to "calibration errors," Hillary has only half the support Trump does.

Anything other than that is a bold faced lie and media misrepresentation.
97  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Law Class Discussion Regarding High Levels of Corruption. on: October 23, 2016, 09:41:54 PM

Now Hillary continues to break the law.  Nothing here folks move along:


I brought this up yesterday in one of my law classes.

Turns out, the only ones who can really punish Obama, Clinton, Comey, etc., when they have that much power and Congress refuses to prosecute, is the National Secretary of Defense or a General. We all obviously know where that would go, but when the entire snake is corrupt (and it is), that is one of only two remaining options.

I just thought I would bring that up.
98  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Podesta admits to polling fraud on: October 23, 2016, 09:38:35 PM

I won't say anything in terms of what I have had to say about the polls, other than they are trash. I'll end it there.
99  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: October 21, 2016, 05:16:37 PM
I wonder how many times Stalin was brought up on charges while Lenin was in power.
100  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Why are we so cynical? to think that Hillary is going to on: October 21, 2016, 05:14:57 PM
be the one playing ("bringing us together" and "bridges not walls")  the Holy high ground here.


The following article is just so outrageous.   And so Clintin/Obameasque.   The crimes and coverup is so much worse than anything Nixon did and yet the MSM helps her over the Presidential finish line.  They speak of Trump's character but what about the character of a criminal that has no integrity to drop out of any race for public office and POTUS who also helps her.  

NO system is not rigged.  rolleyes  No Trump should promise up front to accept the results of an election.  rolleyes And yes we should trust our government, and the media.  rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes
And the worst part is many Bush and Neocon Republicans agree by defacto voting against Trump.  Did anyone see MEg Whitman running to shake Hillary's hand and tell her how wonderful she was after the 3 rd debate.  What a loser she is.      angry

My brother and I grew up in Iowa. When our parents divorced, we moved to Los Angeles.

You see the guys on the streets playing the shell game. The best thing to do is not get involved. If the guys operating the shell game get to close.... you bash them right in their flipping nose... hard. Really hard. Repeatedly... this was a lesson I've learned in other places too, and it's always the same exact thing and process.

You don't play, because you already should know what you're going to get. If you have to play, you'd better win.

Once they've set their eyes on you, the only thing left to do is let them know that involving themselves with you was a mistake.

Sun Tzu---- 1 or 10,000... same thing.

That is what this election is.

Democratic-Socialists don't care what their leaders do. They care about achieving their means, the ends justifying the means.

Diplomacy? Mob rule. Foreigners allowed voices, so long as they favor the right side statistically.

We're already guessing which shell the ball is under, and soon, it will be time to cough up the $20 or punch the guy in the nose.

Sorry if that's over simplistic, but that is what it is.
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