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51  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / The Way It Is - Lessons Learned by Living in the Third World on: September 12, 2016, 10:58:45 AM
To anyone that wants to cry about living in the United States:

You know the problem with people like you? The fact that you live in the richest country in the world, and still complain. You have no mass graves, you don't have bodies hanging from bridges, you have hot water heaters, and you think you have it bad living in what you describe as a "racist country" that "oppresses" you, that YOU choose to live in.

The fact that you can complain publicly, without being killed over it, shows you just how good you have it. You get to cry about how life is unfair.... you have running water and you ate today. You have access to the best healthcare in the world, but you're pissed off because someone you think owes you something, didn't let you sit on your ass and hand it to you.

And to the immigrants, you chose to go there, to get away from whatever it was that you didn't like about wherever it is you came from. Be grateful. Others died, attempting to get what you have received. No one owes you anything, they never will. Something else, the country you just went to doesn't have the same laws that you use in your country of origin, where they would maybe beat, if not kill you, for being there illegally, or saying something political, and these are YOUR laws, but you get upset when someone treats you more leniently? You need to learn some gratitude.

My wife and I, have not had a hot water bath, in more than a year, with water that we didn't heat manually, over a fire, because we don't have a water heater, and we're fortunate, because at least we have a way to get hot water. Others are not so fortunate and do not even have running water. They bathe out of a barrel in front of their adobe home, and if they ate, it was tortillas and beans, so miss me with your "we're oppressed" garbage that flows constantly from your mouths, because for whatever reason, you think something should be given to you. You're on welfare and get cellphones and a place to live, where even your poverty, still places you in the top ten percent of wealth in the world.

Your problem is that you don't know or have forgotten what really bad is. You're spoiled. Straight up.
52  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: September 12, 2016, 09:57:06 AM
I have some EP training, the closest to working an EP detail I have done is protect two scantily clad young women promoting a cigarette brand at a biker rally filled with a lot of 1%ers.

Having said that, I know that you want to keep the principal in a secure location until you can move them to their transportation for rapid loading and departure. Having Ill-ary propped up and waiting for a vehicle was not a good thing from a protection perspective.


100%. We've been screamed at because of it, when it's happened.
53  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: September 12, 2016, 09:09:08 AM
"I am guessing a stainless steel type pen, like what zebra makes. Or a component from the exoskeleton came loose..."

? Something come off her foley bag?  that she wears taped to her leg so she doesn't have to go to BR during a long ceremony?



To me, the sound of it resembled the thin metal jacket of a pen, or even glass.
54  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: September 12, 2016, 08:12:03 AM

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 PowerLine blog:

A prominent internist writes with admittedly speculative comments on the diagnosis of pneumonia made public today regarding Hillary Clinton. He writes:
During my 19 years as a board certified internist I have taken care of many hundreds of patients with pneumonia. The story about Hillary Clinton being diagnosed with pneumonia raises a red flag as to the cause. It could simply have been a community acquired pneumonia, which means she contracted it as a healthy person living her usual life. This happens occasionally, even to healthy people. If this is the case the timing certainly is unfortunate for her given where we are in the election cycle though it doesn’t portend anything ominous.

Another more worrisome possibility comes to mind. I raise this second possibility because of Hillary’s history of neurological illnesses (blood clot in brain, concussion), hints raised on the internet in Wikileaks documents and by others that she may have a neurological disease like Parkinson’s, and her by now well documented history of recurrent coughing fits. This second possibility is that she has an aspiration pneumonia.

Aspiration pneumonia occurs when fluids and food particles that normally enter the esophagus instead enter the windpipe and lungs. It is commonly seen in neurological conditions like strokes and Parkinson’s disease or similar diseases where the nerves to the swallowing mechanism are not working properly. This is especially worrisome because it is likely to recur given the underlying, usually incurable disease process and because it can be a life-threatening event.
I consider aspiration pneumonia to be the more likely cause because it unifies all the pieces of disparate information that are available on Hillary’s medical condition. A diagnosis of aspiration pneumonia raises profoundly troubling implications for her possible election as president.

Someone should demand full and immediate disclosure of her medical records. She should also be the subject of a swallow study to confirm that she can swallow normally (if one hasn’t been done already). Every voter should know what’s at stake.




I threw this up on Politico's Facebook page this morning.

The Empress' minions didn't like this at all. I was attacked IMMEDIATELY.

They evidently are all doctors now. Silly me. I should have known.
55  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: "Side of beef" on: September 12, 2016, 08:08:46 AM

I'm certain that the Secret Service is better than we are, but we're also pretty good at what we do.

My experience? I've worked the Enrique Peña Nieto's perimeter, the Dalai Lama, UN personnel, the governor, my general, and other things.

First off, they often times don't even like us, so they wouldn't want to be touched by us anyways. In my general's case, as far as myself and my squad are concerned, we almost revere our general, and wouldn't want to touch him because he's our general. In the case for example, of a visiting governor's wife I had to provide security for, the reasons are obvious. If you touch the principal or throw them around, it denotes either danger or carelessness, neither of which are good.

It was damage control at best, and panic at worst. I'm leaning towards the former due to the way they closed, preventing any additional footage from being taken. Also interesting, was the fact that the Secret Service didn't allow certain press members to leave afterwards. I forget where I read that, but I did. I'll see if I can't find it and post it here.

First EDIT: Former SS Agents stating protocol was broken (which I would agree with, if for no other reason than Clinton was left exposed - leaning against the concrete post and with a visible lack of agents surrounding her). http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/secret-service-followed-atypical-protocol-with-clinton-s-early-departure-from-sunday-911-event-a7237706.html

The Secret Service denied that protocol was broken (not surprising), but then again, they sully themselves with prostitutes in foreign countries, so who's to say?

"However, in a tweet Sunday evening the Secret Service said it had not violated protocol. " http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/295353-secret-service-may-have-broken-protocol-while-protecting

In fact, they have tweeted about it twice now. https://twitter.com/SecretService?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
"The @SecretService is confident in the actions taken by its Protective Detail earlier today."
and
"FACT CHECK: At no time did @SecretService personnel violate security protocols during the early departure of one of our protectees."

Personally, I think them even explaining it makes the situation look worse.
56  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: September 11, 2016, 07:03:32 PM
Love your humor GM..... laughing heartily here.

By the way.... in one of the videos I was studying, they say that a metallic object was dropped by Clinton today. I saw it drop, but have no idea what it was. Do you?


57  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: September 11, 2016, 06:57:42 PM
Not going to post another video showing it, but I've worked a significant number of details like these here in Mexico.

You NEVER want to touch the principal.

The point man had to actually smash Clinton's right breast, with his left hand in order to prevent her from going down, until the agent working right flank could support Clinton as well.

She's got more than pneumonia.

58  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history on: September 11, 2016, 06:52:10 PM
If my dog was in her shape, he'd be making his last trip to the vet. No pickles here.
59  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Anti-semitism & Jews on: September 09, 2016, 07:42:35 PM
angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry

You wrote something to the effect once, that was spot on, in regard to the right not pushing their values on others, but the left being intolerant of anything remotely unlike them. This is just more of the same.
60  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: DDF, on: September 09, 2016, 04:13:05 PM
Like Dershowitz points out the anti semitism in the US now comes from the LEFT.   Not only academic muslims but many Jews as well.

On the bright side we have toilets for all.

And stamping and trampling on an American flag is fashionable.

I see it every day, especially from here. I feel like a bird on a perch, watching everything from outside.
61  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Berkeley Offering Course To Destroy Israel on: September 09, 2016, 03:20:10 PM
http://www.algemeiner.com/2016/09/08/uc-berkeley-offers-a-class-in-erasing-jews-from-israel-and-destroying-the-jewish-state/
62  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: social justice wars , SJ warriors, gender warriors , victimhood on: September 09, 2016, 12:55:26 AM

Oh man.... howling with laughter.
63  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: NFL afraid to speak up? on: September 08, 2016, 11:39:15 PM
Anything can be called free speech at this point. 


Oh, you're dead wrong about that. Ask any social justice warrior, anything that hurts their feelings is "hate speech."

 afro afro afro
64  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Mexican Citzen Openly Calling For Trump's Assassination on: September 08, 2016, 11:37:44 PM

The last US-Mexico war didn't go so well for Mexico, pretty sure a second one will turn out the same way.


http://silenceisconsent.net/mexican-encourages-his-people-to-assassinate-donald-trump-and-kill-his-supporters/#sthash.yucjMpR1.dpbs


“We, Mexicans, have to kill Donald J. Trump before he becomes President. He is a threat to every single one of us. There are many Mexican Americans living in the U.S. right now and I’m asking them to kill Donald Trump before he becomes President. The ones in Mexico who have the means, I’m asking you to cross the border and go and kill Donald Trump, and as many of his supporters as possible,” he states.

Anywhere he goes just try to bomb the place, shoot up the place, do something. If you could go back in time and kill Hitler, and kill the Nazis, would you do it? We have a modern day Hitler, and we have to kill him before he gets into power,” he adds.

“So I want you to spread this message, and I’m encouraging every single Mexican out there who has the guts to stand up for the Mexican people and to kill Trump and his Nazi followers. Let’s do this. Viva Mexico! F**k those motherf***ers,” he concludes.


I was just discussing this with some partners that put a wall meme, about Trump's wall being built along the northern Oregon border, because that is where the border used to be. I had to remind them, that perhaps it should be placed more to the south, around Distrito Federal, enclosing everything north, or the part we gave back to them. They weren't amused. they're my brothers, but the facts don't change. 82% of the country is unhappy that Trump came here, but if you so much as wave an American flag, don't think for a second, that you won't be deported, immediately... yet, they certainly have a wish to influence American politics. It's more than a little hypocritical.
65  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: digitalize voting and we have risk of massive fraud not less fraud on: September 08, 2016, 11:33:44 PM
I note that vote fraud is now only a issue because the dems fear it hurting them.



Gee who could have guessed that digitalizing voting would allow put fraud on steroids or add rocket boosters to fraud and the risk of unlimited fraud and confusion:

http://www.breitbart.com/news/jeh-johnson-says-dhs-effort-is-not-a-federal-takeover-of-elections/

Painfully correct.
66  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Indiana First in Legalizing Armed Police Drones on: September 08, 2016, 11:32:51 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/north-dakota-becomes-first-us-state-to-legalise-use-of-armed-drones-by-police-10492397.html

One thing I found troubling, "However, the state's police union amended the Bill, limiting the ban to only lethal weapons..."

Since when do police unions have the power to legislate? That's news to me.

Probably poorly written. It probably means that the police union lobbied to have the bill amended, and was successful.

I think you're correct in terms of the bill. It still sets a precedent. The part that I take issue with, is Clinton (or anyone that doesn't believe in freedom), having access to better equipment, that is "too" effective... myself for example. I'm kind of a totalitarian guy, and if I was ruler, you can bet, I would be heavy handed, no two ways about it.

There is an almost virtual absence of any of the big five 1%er clubs here in Mexico, or any other international crime organizations, other than people that are native to Mexico. Why? We have tons of drugs, heroin, meth, marijuana; yet, they won't step foot here. They won't even come and visit. It's because law enforcement here (combined with the cartels' brutality), isn't what it is in other places. We are militarized, and in fact, work directly with the military on patrol, using the same weapons, because it's effective, but brutal.

I don't think it is in the interest of freedom to just open the gates on something, because it works. Freedom and human rights, and anyone interested in them, get lost permanently. I believe the use of drones, both as stated in the article, and the use of the bot in Texas, are the wrong way to go if you believe in freedom, and we've known each other here for years you and I. You already know what I think of BLM trash. I'd have them hung in the streets. It does bring an interesting point though... where do we draw the line between effective law enforcement, and freedom?
67  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Mexican Citzen Openly Calling For Trump's Assassination on: September 08, 2016, 05:00:03 PM
http://silenceisconsent.net/mexican-encourages-his-people-to-assassinate-donald-trump-and-kill-his-supporters/#sthash.yucjMpR1.dpbs


“We, Mexicans, have to kill Donald J. Trump before he becomes President. He is a threat to every single one of us. There are many Mexican Americans living in the U.S. right now and I’m asking them to kill Donald Trump before he becomes President. The ones in Mexico who have the means, I’m asking you to cross the border and go and kill Donald Trump, and as many of his supporters as possible,” he states.

Anywhere he goes just try to bomb the place, shoot up the place, do something. If you could go back in time and kill Hitler, and kill the Nazis, would you do it? We have a modern day Hitler, and we have to kill him before he gets into power,” he adds.

“So I want you to spread this message, and I’m encouraging every single Mexican out there who has the guts to stand up for the Mexican people and to kill Trump and his Nazi followers. Let’s do this. Viva Mexico! F**k those motherf***ers,” he concludes.
68  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Indiana First in Legalizing Armed Police Drones on: September 08, 2016, 02:09:58 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/north-dakota-becomes-first-us-state-to-legalise-use-of-armed-drones-by-police-10492397.html

One thing I found troubling, "However, the state's police union amended the Bill, limiting the ban to only lethal weapons..."

Since when do police unions have the power to legislate? That's news to me.
69  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: September 08, 2016, 11:00:55 AM
Evidently NBC is hammering anyone that is using the video. My apologies.

I'll remove it so it doesn't chew up space.

70  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The confiscations begin in NYC on: September 08, 2016, 09:24:52 AM

You have to be careful in those canoes... they're so unstable.  grin


There are principles that transcend the law of man, the right to defense of self being one of them. John R. Lott Jr.'s use of the word "could" is something I take issue with, due to the fact that people can do just about anything they want. Whether or not they choose to do so, is another matter. I refuse to live somewhere, where the government and citizens think that we don't have the right to protect ourselves. I will never submit to that; job, roots, friendships be damned. I won't do it.
71  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: September 08, 2016, 09:17:25 AM
I wanted to shoot Matt Lauer for all his interruptions of Trump.


Hard to say that it wasn't more than biased. Then again, in a country as polarized as the US is currently, one of them was going to get hit.
72  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Clinton-Trump Commander in Chief Forum on: September 08, 2016, 09:00:41 AM
Anyone that thinks that China, Russia and others weren't reading everything in Hillary's servers is a child.


My favorite quote of the night?

"I have a lot of experience handling classified material."
                                                       Hillary Clinton

Yes... you do.... you hand it out like candy on Halloween.


You got that right. Oddly, the original video had its settings changed to private. Hillary was getting smashed in the comments section.
73  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Pathological Science on: September 08, 2016, 12:41:50 AM
DDF,  Thank you.   Isn't it amazing that 99% of the warming comes from agenda-paid 'scientists' adjusting the real temperatures.

Who is denying the data?

You're welcome. Great post...interesting.
-and-
The ones making money off of it, or the new age hippies coming out of school that want you to adhere to their vegan, birkenstock wearing, moral code. grin grin grin
74  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Clinton-Trump Commander in Chief Forum on: September 08, 2016, 12:37:47 AM
My favorite quote of the night?

"I have a lot of experience handling classified material."
                                                       Hillary Clinton

Yes... you do.... you hand it out like candy on Halloween.


Youtube video removed due to NBC copyright violations.
75  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces on: September 08, 2016, 12:35:35 AM
Excellent posts DDF, I'm just wanting to nip in the bud a tendency to use this as a catch all thread  grin  You just happened to walk into a pre-existing situation.


Sir. Thank you.
76  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces on: September 07, 2016, 04:00:00 PM
Done deal Guru. My apologies.
77  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Champions of the Poor on: September 07, 2016, 03:59:25 PM
A while ago, there was a discussion somewhere here about the accumulated wealth of Chavez, Sanders, Clinton, et al., whom are "magnates" of the "people."

I promised GM a list on this a while ago, but here is some of what I have come up with. Throwing it here, because I'm not sure where to put it. I'll admit that I have limited the list to Democrats, due to the fact that Republicans operate under a different philosophy and don't claim to be champions of the poor and oppressed. It bears mentioning, that several politicians, David Koch and Michael Bloomberg for example, either lean heavily left on social issues (as with the former) or in the latter case, started as a Democrat, and registered as a Republican in a traditionally blue state, just to be able to run, therefore, I have also included several RINOs and the sort.

Hillary Clinton    $31.3-111 million - Methodist

John Kerry            $193 million - Catholic

Al Gore            $100 million - Baptist

Ted Kennedy    $163 million - Catholic

Nelson Rockefeller    $1 billion (deceased, Republican, stated as such on Wikipedia, the idea of any Rockefellers being considered Republican is a joke, but their influence cannot be left out of the discussion and they are widely considered liberals). In fact, Jay Rockefeller will be listed shortly as a Democrat. - Baptist (however they are listed on the list of Jewish Billionaires site)

Mark Dayton    Minnesota       $1.6 billion - Presbyterian

Jared Polis         Colorado          $388 million - Jewish

Mark Warner                               $243 million - Presbyterian

Nancy Pelosi                               $29 million - 101 million - stated wealth come from "consulting," (for what?) and public relations.  - Catholic

Jon Corzine        New Jersey         $300 million - former Goldman Sachs CEO Comey worked for HSBC, HSBC is connected to the Clinton Foundation (James Comey is a board member of the Clinton Foundation) through a number of initiatives, including its “Building the Corporate Coalition,” “Scaling Rainwater Harvesting for 21st Century Mexico,” “Investing in Management and Leadership in Vietnam,” and other projects. Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Bank, Morgan Stanley, and a number of transnational corporations, also participate. Clinton has given speeches at Goldman Sachs, refused to release the transcripts of speech. http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2016/04/12/hillary-clinton-goldman-sachs-why-it-matters/ He was charged by the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) in connection with MF Global's bankruptcy, due to his mismanagement, in 2011. - United Church of Christ

Michael Bloomberg    $41.2 billion -  Banking industry - A Democrat before seeking elective office, Mayor of New York City - Jewish

David Koch                 $44.2 billion - Republican/libertarian, but is an admitted social liberal, supporting every hot topic there is, including gay marriage, stem cell research, etc. - Donate to Catholic schools, many think are Jewish. Religion maintained private

Michael McCaul            $294 million - NOTED Republican, 2nd wealthiest member of Congress,  connected to Clear Channel Communications (as is the bush family), Bush connections to Clear Channel pushing war - https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2003/04/medi-a17.html (there is a dead link in the article that was supposed to state where Bush made his money), which Clinton also endorsed "On October 11, 2002, Clinton voted in favor of the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq," but a pattern is there, that perhaps all of the politicians are in bed together. An interesting point would be, how did Clinton manage to enrich herself from it? "Campaign 2016: Hillary Clinton Pitched Iraq As 'A Business Opportunity' For US Corporations" http://www.ibtimes.com/campaign-2016-hillary-clinton-pitched-iraq-business-opportunity-us-corporations-2121999
McCaul also voted in favor of the war "Voted YES on declaring Iraq part of War on Terror with no exit date. (Jun 2006) http://www.ontheissues.org/TX/Michael_McCaul.htm
Point being, this guy is probably about as Republican as anyone, but it is still interesting to see what business ties (making money off of conflict right along with the Democrats) they all have in common (another subject altogether), getting back to Democrats... - Catholic


Rep. John Delaney    Democratic    Maryland    $111.92 million - Made money off of the healthcare and banking industries - Catholic

Sen. Jay Rockefeller    Democratic    West Virginia    $108.05 million -     The name speaks for itself as far as involvement in finance and politics goes - Presbyterian - Jewish

Sen. Richard Blumenthal    Democratic    Connecticut    $62.06 million - 80.1million - married to the daughter of Peter L. Malkin, and who's wife's brother has net worth of some $10 billion -  Jewish.

Rep. Scott Peters    Democratic    California    $45.04 million - "He served as an economist on the staff of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), then earned a law degree from the New York University School of Law. Peters served as a deputy city attorney in San Diego from 1991 to 1996. Prior to his election to the City Council, Peters worked as an attorney in private practice." How one amasses that much money in being a public servant and a lawyer, is beyond me. -Lutheran

Sen. Dianne Feinstein    Democratic    California    $43.72 - 47.2 million - but is married to Richard Blum who is worth perhaps more than a $1 billion http://www.sanjoseinside.com/2015/07/16/sen-dianne-feinsteins-husband-richard-blum-grows-fortune-on-the-ruins-of-the-american-dream/ , much of which accumulated to the way his wife votes. At the age of 23 in 1958, Blum, who is currently 81, held a job working for Sutro & Co., becoming a partner 7 years later. In 1975, he formed his own business, Blum Capital, five years later, marrying Pelosi, who at the time was mayor of San Francisco. When attempting track down Blum's worth in 1980, it is difficult to peg. What is clear; however, is that there has been no shortage of scandals between the two, and that Blum has run his own business as well as chairing CBRE, collectively worth billions, and in no uncertain terms, has used his wife's position to his great advantage. ODDLY, Goldman Sachs pops up here as well. It's probably a coincidence. http://www.occupy.com/article/exposed-senator-dianne-feinsteins-husband-selling-post-offices-friends#sthash.2bZFK4Ff.dpbs
http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/PROFILE-Richard-Blum-The-man-behind-URS-next-2617380.php -Jewish

Rep. Suzan DelBene    Democratic    Washington    $37.89 million - self made, Microsoft. -     Episcopalian

Rep. Chellie Pingree    Democratic    Maine    $34.47 million - Pingree shot up the list this year after her marriage to hedge fund manager Donald Sussman. Sussman has been described as a billionaire by some sources. Sussman himself has donated more than 10 million, the majority to Democrats, 103K to Republicans http://influenceexplorer.com/individual/donald-sussman/30d5a1a570e544e0ace2ae3e08ce332e - Lutheran-Jewish

Rep. Alan Grayson    Democratic    Florida    $26.18 million - Grayson worked as a law clerk at the Colorado Supreme Court in 1983, and at the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals from 1984 to 1985, where he worked with two judges who later joined the U.S. Supreme Court: Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Antonin Scalia. He was an associate at the Washington, D.C. firm of Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson for five years, where he specialized in contract law. In 1991 he founded the law firm Grayson & Kubli, which concentrated on government contract law. - - Jewish

Rep. Joseph Kennedy III    Democratic    Massachusetts    $20 million - Catholic

Sen. Claire McCaskill    Democratic    Missouri    $18.38 million - Insurance and law - Catholic

Sen. Tom Harkin    Democratic    Iowa    $11.85 million - Military, lawyer, politics - Catholic

Rep. Brad Schneider    Democratic    Illinois    $11.71 million - Business and Insurance -Jewish

Rep. Lloyd Doggett    Democratic    Texas    $11.51 million - Not unlike Sanders, he has only ever worked in politics, left school roughly 1970, since 1973 has been a politician ever since. - Methodist

Rep. Jim Cooper    Democratic    Tennessee    $11.51 million - After getting his law degree, he spent two years working for the law firm Waller, Lansden, Dortch and Davis in Nashville, then ran for Congress in 1982 -Episcopalian

Rep. Nita M. Lowey    Democratic    New York    $11.48 million - Life long career in government and public service - Jewish

Sen. Kay Hagan    Democratic    North Carolina    $9.12 million - Law, Finance and since 1999, politics    -Presbyterian

Rep. Carolyn B. Maloney    Democratic    New York    $7.73 million - she worked as a teacher and an administrator for the New York City Board of Education, In 1977, she obtained a job working for the New York State Legislature and held senior staff positions in both the State Assembly and the State Senate. She's basically, since being a teacher, worked in government since 1977.     -Presbyterian

Sen. Frank Lautenberg (deceased 2013) Democrat New Jersey $56.9 million - Succeeded by his crony, Jon Corzine (mentioned above), Lautenberg entered office at the age of 58, and after founding ADP (one of the most used payroll services in the country). Though little is clear about any wrongdoing by Lautenberg, he was very much friends and working partners with Corzine, who has so much dirt on him, that even Liberal New Jerseyans, hate him. - Jewish

Digging into this, there are several relationships that are uncovered, for example, Goldman Sachs, who is primarily run by Democrats, many of whom, go on to become politicians, such as; Timothy Geithner - United States Secretary of the Treasury - up to $6 million per CNN, Bradley Abelow, Treasurer and Chief of Staff to Jon Corzine (his name just keeps coming up), Josh Bolton - Whitehouse Chief of Staff under G.W. Bush, William C. Dudley -  president of Federal Reserve Bank of New York (who was preceded by Geithner by the way), Rahm Emanuel - Mayor of Chicago (who was preceded by Josh Bolton - listed just previous to this, with Emanual also serving as WH Chief of Staff previously), Judd Gregg (who's father also was governor of the same state)- Former New Hampshire governor and senator (listed as a Republican, but nominated by Obama to serve as Secretary of Commerce), Jim Himes - sitting Democratic Representative for Connecticut (net worth 4.5 million), Arthur Levitt (deceased 2001) - Chairman of the United States Securities and Exchange Commission under Bill Clinton, Evan McMullin - Independent Candidate for US President 2016 (former chief policy director for the House Republican Conference in the U.S. House of Representatives, former CIA operations officer), Henry Paulson -  United States Secretary of the Treasury (preceded Geithner and was preceded by Corzine), Robert Rubin - Chairperson for the Council on Foreign Relations (which helps sitting politicians decide how they're going to make more money in foreign matters).

When seeing just the amount of interaction between politics and Goldman Sachs, there's no wonder why the banks weren't allowed to fail.


In fairness, even Trump's name come up in this with Stephen Bannon, a former Goldman Sachs employee being the former executive officer of Breitbart News and the CEO of Trump's presidential campaign, not to mention, he is the co-founder and executive chairman of the Government Accountability Institute (which touts itself to be a is a conservative nonprofit investigative research organization).... we'll just sit back while they all scratch each others backs. Bannon isn't the only one from Goldman Sachs to jump on board with Trump either. Steve Mnuchin joived even before Bannon did. http://fortune.com/2016/08/17/donald-trump-bannon-mnuchin-goldman/

Clinton connection to Goldman Sachs - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3584863/Chelsea-Clinton-s-husband-Marc-colleagues-Goldman-Sachs-shutter-25million-hedge-fund-losing-nearly-investors-money-good-thing-10million-apartment.html
78  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Champions of the Poor on: September 07, 2016, 03:58:44 PM
A while ago, there was a discussion somewhere here about the accumulated wealth of Chavez, Sanders, Clinton, et al., whom are "magnates" of the "people."

I promised GM a list on this a while ago, but here is some of what I have come up with. Throwing it here, because I'm not sure where to put it. I'll admit that I have limited the list to Democrats, due to the fact that Republicans operate under a different philosophy and don't claim to be champions of the poor and oppressed. It bears mentioning, that several politicians, David Koch and Michael Bloomberg for example, either lean heavily left on social issues (as with the former) or in the latter case, started as a Democrat, and registered as a Republican in a traditionally blue state, just to be able to run, therefore, I have also included several RINOs and the sort.

Hillary Clinton    $31.3-111 million - Methodist

John Kerry            $193 million - Catholic

Al Gore            $100 million - Baptist

Ted Kennedy    $163 million - Catholic

Nelson Rockefeller    $1 billion (deceased, Republican, stated as such on Wikipedia, the idea of any Rockefellers being considered Republican is a joke, but their influence cannot be left out of the discussion and they are widely considered liberals). In fact, Jay Rockefeller will be listed shortly as a Democrat. - Baptist (however they are listed on the list of Jewish Billionaires site)

Mark Dayton    Minnesota       $1.6 billion - Presbyterian

Jared Polis         Colorado          $388 million - Jewish

Mark Warner                               $243 million - Presbyterian

Nancy Pelosi                               $29 million - 101 million - stated wealth come from "consulting," (for what?) and public relations.  - Catholic

Jon Corzine        New Jersey         $300 million - former Goldman Sachs CEO Comey worked for HSBC, HSBC is connected to the Clinton Foundation (James Comey is a board member of the Clinton Foundation) through a number of initiatives, including its “Building the Corporate Coalition,” “Scaling Rainwater Harvesting for 21st Century Mexico,” “Investing in Management and Leadership in Vietnam,” and other projects. Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Bank, Morgan Stanley, and a number of transnational corporations, also participate. Clinton has given speeches at Goldman Sachs, refused to release the transcripts of speech. http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2016/04/12/hillary-clinton-goldman-sachs-why-it-matters/ He was charged by the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) in connection with MF Global's bankruptcy, due to his mismanagement, in 2011. - United Church of Christ

Michael Bloomberg    $41.2 billion -  Banking industry - A Democrat before seeking elective office, Mayor of New York City - Jewish

David Koch                 $44.2 billion - Republican/libertarian, but is an admitted social liberal, supporting every hot topic there is, including gay marriage, stem cell research, etc. - Donate to Catholic schools, many think are Jewish. Religion maintained private

Michael McCaul            $294 million - NOTED Republican, 2nd wealthiest member of Congress,  connected to Clear Channel Communications (as is the bush family), Bush connections to Clear Channel pushing war - https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2003/04/medi-a17.html (there is a dead link in the article that was supposed to state where Bush made his money), which Clinton also endorsed "On October 11, 2002, Clinton voted in favor of the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq," but a pattern is there, that perhaps all of the politicians are in bed together. An interesting point would be, how did Clinton manage to enrich herself from it? "Campaign 2016: Hillary Clinton Pitched Iraq As 'A Business Opportunity' For US Corporations" http://www.ibtimes.com/campaign-2016-hillary-clinton-pitched-iraq-business-opportunity-us-corporations-2121999
McCaul also voted in favor of the war "Voted YES on declaring Iraq part of War on Terror with no exit date. (Jun 2006) http://www.ontheissues.org/TX/Michael_McCaul.htm
Point being, this guy is probably about as Republican as anyone, but it is still interesting to see what business ties (making money off of conflict right along with the Democrats) they all have in common (another subject altogether), getting back to Democrats... - Catholic


Rep. John Delaney    Democratic    Maryland    $111.92 million - Made money off of the healthcare and banking industries - Catholic

Sen. Jay Rockefeller    Democratic    West Virginia    $108.05 million -     The name speaks for itself as far as involvement in finance and politics goes - Presbyterian - Jewish

Sen. Richard Blumenthal    Democratic    Connecticut    $62.06 million - 80.1million - married to the daughter of Peter L. Malkin, and who's wife's brother has net worth of some $10 billion -  Jewish.

Rep. Scott Peters    Democratic    California    $45.04 million - "He served as an economist on the staff of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), then earned a law degree from the New York University School of Law. Peters served as a deputy city attorney in San Diego from 1991 to 1996. Prior to his election to the City Council, Peters worked as an attorney in private practice." How one amasses that much money in being a public servant and a lawyer, is beyond me. -Lutheran

Sen. Dianne Feinstein    Democratic    California    $43.72 - 47.2 million - but is married to Richard Blum who is worth perhaps more than a $1 billion http://www.sanjoseinside.com/2015/07/16/sen-dianne-feinsteins-husband-richard-blum-grows-fortune-on-the-ruins-of-the-american-dream/ , much of which accumulated to the way his wife votes. At the age of 23 in 1958, Blum, who is currently 81, held a job working for Sutro & Co., becoming a partner 7 years later. In 1975, he formed his own business, Blum Capital, five years later, marrying Pelosi, who at the time was mayor of San Francisco. When attempting track down Blum's worth in 1980, it is difficult to peg. What is clear; however, is that there has been no shortage of scandals between the two, and that Blum has run his own business as well as chairing CBRE, collectively worth billions, and in no uncertain terms, has used his wife's position to his great advantage. ODDLY, Goldman Sachs pops up here as well. It's probably a coincidence. http://www.occupy.com/article/exposed-senator-dianne-feinsteins-husband-selling-post-offices-friends#sthash.2bZFK4Ff.dpbs
http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/PROFILE-Richard-Blum-The-man-behind-URS-next-2617380.php -Jewish

Rep. Suzan DelBene    Democratic    Washington    $37.89 million - self made, Microsoft. -     Episcopalian

Rep. Chellie Pingree    Democratic    Maine    $34.47 million - Pingree shot up the list this year after her marriage to hedge fund manager Donald Sussman. Sussman has been described as a billionaire by some sources. Sussman himself has donated more than 10 million, the majority to Democrats, 103K to Republicans http://influenceexplorer.com/individual/donald-sussman/30d5a1a570e544e0ace2ae3e08ce332e - Lutheran-Jewish

Rep. Alan Grayson    Democratic    Florida    $26.18 million - Grayson worked as a law clerk at the Colorado Supreme Court in 1983, and at the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals from 1984 to 1985, where he worked with two judges who later joined the U.S. Supreme Court: Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Antonin Scalia. He was an associate at the Washington, D.C. firm of Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson for five years, where he specialized in contract law. In 1991 he founded the law firm Grayson & Kubli, which concentrated on government contract law. - - Jewish

Rep. Joseph Kennedy III    Democratic    Massachusetts    $20 million - Catholic

Sen. Claire McCaskill    Democratic    Missouri    $18.38 million - Insurance and law - Catholic

Sen. Tom Harkin    Democratic    Iowa    $11.85 million - Military, lawyer, politics - Catholic

Rep. Brad Schneider    Democratic    Illinois    $11.71 million - Business and Insurance -Jewish

Rep. Lloyd Doggett    Democratic    Texas    $11.51 million - Not unlike Sanders, he has only ever worked in politics, left school roughly 1970, since 1973 has been a politician ever since. - Methodist

Rep. Jim Cooper    Democratic    Tennessee    $11.51 million - After getting his law degree, he spent two years working for the law firm Waller, Lansden, Dortch and Davis in Nashville, then ran for Congress in 1982 -Episcopalian

Rep. Nita M. Lowey    Democratic    New York    $11.48 million - Life long career in government and public service - Jewish

Sen. Kay Hagan    Democratic    North Carolina    $9.12 million - Law, Finance and since 1999, politics    -Presbyterian

Rep. Carolyn B. Maloney    Democratic    New York    $7.73 million - she worked as a teacher and an administrator for the New York City Board of Education, In 1977, she obtained a job working for the New York State Legislature and held senior staff positions in both the State Assembly and the State Senate. She's basically, since being a teacher, worked in government since 1977.     -Presbyterian

Sen. Frank Lautenberg (deceased 2013) Democrat New Jersey $56.9 million - Succeeded by his crony, Jon Corzine (mentioned above), Lautenberg entered office at the age of 58, and after founding ADP (one of the most used payroll services in the country). Though little is clear about any wrongdoing by Lautenberg, he was very much friends and working partners with Corzine, who has so much dirt on him, that even Liberal New Jerseyans, hate him. - Jewish

Digging into this, there are several relationships that are uncovered, for example, Goldman Sachs, who is primarily run by Democrats, many of whom, go on to become politicians, such as; Timothy Geithner - United States Secretary of the Treasury - up to $6 million per CNN, Bradley Abelow, Treasurer and Chief of Staff to Jon Corzine (his name just keeps coming up), Josh Bolton - Whitehouse Chief of Staff under G.W. Bush, William C. Dudley -  president of Federal Reserve Bank of New York (who was preceded by Geithner by the way), Rahm Emanuel - Mayor of Chicago (who was preceded by Josh Bolton - listed just previous to this, with Emanual also serving as WH Chief of Staff previously), Judd Gregg (who's father also was governor of the same state)- Former New Hampshire governor and senator (listed as a Republican, but nominated by Obama to serve as Secretary of Commerce), Jim Himes - sitting Democratic Representative for Connecticut (net worth 4.5 million), Arthur Levitt (deceased 2001) - Chairman of the United States Securities and Exchange Commission under Bill Clinton, Evan McMullin - Independent Candidate for US President 2016 (former chief policy director for the House Republican Conference in the U.S. House of Representatives, former CIA operations officer), Henry Paulson -  United States Secretary of the Treasury (preceded Geithner and was preceded by Corzine), Robert Rubin - Chairperson for the Council on Foreign Relations (which helps sitting politicians decide how they're going to make more money in foreign matters).

When seeing just the amount of interaction between politics and Goldman Sachs, there's no wonder why the banks weren't allowed to fail.


In fairness, even Trump's name come up in this with Stephen Bannon, a former Goldman Sachs employee being the former executive officer of Breitbart News and the CEO of Trump's presidential campaign, not to mention, he is the co-founder and executive chairman of the Government Accountability Institute (which touts itself to be a is a conservative nonprofit investigative research organization).... we'll just sit back while they all scratch each others backs. Bannon isn't the only one from Goldman Sachs to jump on board with Trump either. Steve Mnuchin joived even before Bannon did. http://fortune.com/2016/08/17/donald-trump-bannon-mnuchin-goldman/

Clinton connection to Goldman Sachs - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3584863/Chelsea-Clinton-s-husband-Marc-colleagues-Goldman-Sachs-shutter-25million-hedge-fund-losing-nearly-investors-money-good-thing-10million-apartment.html
79  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Pathological Science on: September 07, 2016, 01:26:48 PM
Doug.... well done.  grin

I love it.

To me, man's understanding of nature pales in comparison to the eternity of perfection exhibited by the system of nature. Everything that exists, that has ever existed, or that ever will exist, was meant by nature to exist or die; yet, mankind, armed with 70 years of personal knowledge, and perhaps two centuries of collective, "advanced" knowledge, thinks that he knows how things "should be."

The Rhinos never even existed before they became "extinct." Some people need to think about that for a moment, because they clearly don't get the concept... Gore and Kerry being amongst them.
80  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Donald Trump on: September 06, 2016, 05:25:00 PM
After finding out that he was in Goldman Sach's pocket (while digging up dirt on Democrats actually), and starting to see just how much they're all in bed with each other, including Clinton, I don't know how anyone could vote for either of them.

I hope like hell that my predictions were wrong.
81  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Question for Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson on: September 06, 2016, 05:22:39 PM
WIIh reference to his advertising that promises to get America out of wars, I have a question for Gary Johnson:

Are America's wars America's fault?

In a debate he didn't know if the US was wrong to go into WWII.

I have what I think a better question for both of them:

Ms. Stein, can you explain to all of us, regardless of affiliation or lack thereof, how we can know that either you or Mr. Gary Johnson are not attached to Goldman Sachs or any of the other bankers? Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are both more than attached. Show America, if you will, yours and Mr. Jonhson's lack of connections to the banks and incestuous politics.
82  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Circle Jerk Math on: September 06, 2016, 05:09:55 PM
The big money has purchased access to both. Still, this will be the most hacked and fraudulent vote in what is left of this nation's history.


What do you get when you combine the following?

Donald Trump + (Goldman Sachs * 2) = A 650 million outstanding loan due to Goldman Sachs from the Donster = GS Employees given charge of his campaign operations and finances, + a probable Secretary of the Treasury position should Trump Win
http://fortune.com/2016/07/19/here-is-who-donald-trump-wants-for-treasury-secretary/
His outstanding loan to Goldman Sachs http://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-donald-trump-companies-at-least-650-million-in-debt/

Hillary Clinton + her Foundation + a liberal orgy that's finally named Chelsea + 1 yamika = "the whole Clinton clan will convene at Goldman Sachs headquarters in Manhattan for a meet and greet with top donors to the Bill, Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation. The New York Times reported last month" http://freebeacon.com/blog/clintons-sachs-ual-relations/ AND a the reality that 25 million dollars from lost hedge funds at Goldman Sachs = a $10,000,000 apartment for love child in Manhattan. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3584863/Chelsea-Clinton-s-husband-Marc-colleagues-Goldman-Sachs-shutter-25million-hedge-fund-losing-nearly-investors-money-good-thing-10million-apartment.html

Crooked Clinton + 2 Guys from Kansas = Yet another way Clinton is attached to Trump and vice versa because....
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/07/koch-brothers-now-supporting-hillary-clinton.html
Is the same as
Goldman Sachs = Koch=Trump=Clinton
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-04-10/koch-goldman-agree-to-buy-printing-ink-maker-flint-from-cvc

We've gone full circle and haven't even said anything that hasn't been in the news. Vote? What flippin vote?



Johnson, the pothead that he is (actually...he might not be, but he acts like it) (and with the exception of very few people), I'm not big on potheads, at least he and Stein (whom I loathe) at least are not bought and paid for.... yet. I especially like the last section of what you wrote. I personally, think it's time to start over.
83  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Circle Jerk Math on: September 06, 2016, 04:29:17 PM
What do you get when you combine the following?

Donald Trump + (Goldman Sachs * 2) = A 650 million outstanding loan due to Goldman Sachs from the Donster = GS Employees given charge of his campaign operations and finances, + a probable Secretary of the Treasury position should Trump Win
http://fortune.com/2016/07/19/here-is-who-donald-trump-wants-for-treasury-secretary/
His outstanding loan to Goldman Sachs http://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-donald-trump-companies-at-least-650-million-in-debt/

Hillary Clinton + her Foundation + a liberal orgy that's finally named Chelsea + 1 yamika = "the whole Clinton clan will convene at Goldman Sachs headquarters in Manhattan for a meet and greet with top donors to the Bill, Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation. The New York Times reported last month" http://freebeacon.com/blog/clintons-sachs-ual-relations/ AND a the reality that 25 million dollars from lost hedge funds at Goldman Sachs = a $10,000,000 apartment for love child in Manhattan. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3584863/Chelsea-Clinton-s-husband-Marc-colleagues-Goldman-Sachs-shutter-25million-hedge-fund-losing-nearly-investors-money-good-thing-10million-apartment.html

Crooked Clinton + 2 Guys from Kansas = Yet another way Clinton is attached to Trump and vice versa because....
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/07/koch-brothers-now-supporting-hillary-clinton.html
Is the same as
Goldman Sachs = Koch=Trump=Clinton
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-04-10/koch-goldman-agree-to-buy-printing-ink-maker-flint-from-cvc

We've gone full circle and haven't even said anything that hasn't been in the news. Vote? What flippin vote?

84  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: US Economics, the stock market , and other investment/savings strategies on: September 06, 2016, 09:38:45 AM
An additional variable contributing to the rise of the US market is that for all the foibles, flaws, and fallacies of our market, other markets are worse and money from there flows to here.

EU-- will it survive?
China-- a bubble?
Third World markets?

US can look pretty good in comparison.


The proof has always been, and always will be, in where the flow of migration (illegal or otherwise), is going. Some people have undoubtedly seen Mexican side of the fence in Tijuana in Colonia Tierra y Libertad, strewn with crosses of the people that have died in the desert to the north, attempting to cross.

I'm as alt-right as they come on several matters, and can't stand Obama, or any of them. There is still no denying that the American economy is the best in the world.
85  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Physical decline of male strength on: August 17, 2016, 10:09:35 AM

"Yet we excuse and enable their weakness."

Gold.
86  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues - Mexican Constitution on: August 13, 2016, 04:17:23 PM
I've been going over the Mexican Constitution for some things concerning myself and my work here (the Mexican Constitution is rather sizeable).

Being that the bulk of illegal aliens in the United States of America are from Mexico, and "gringos" are often referred to as racists for attempting to enforce immigration law, it is pertinent.

Some key points:

Article 2 - specifically recognizes the rights of "indigenous peoples," but given that people with Spanish blood wrote the Constitution, proclaims Mexico as a "multicultural nation" and gives the people with Spanish blood and surnames, dominion in the same land that they took from the indigenous people.

Article 8- "Public functionaries and employees will respect the public exercise to their right to petition, as long as it is formulated in writing, in a peaceful and respectful manner. In political petitioning, only citizens of the republic have this right."

Article 9 - "Only citizens of the Republic may take part in the political affairs of the country."

Article 32 - "Mexicans shall have priority over foreigners under equality of circumstances for all classes of concessions and for all employment, positions, or commissions of the Government in which the status of citizenship is not indispensable."

Article 33 - "The Federal Executive shall have the exclusive power to compel any foreigner whose remaining he may deem inexpedient to abandon the national territory immediately and without the necessity of previous legal action." It also states: "Foreigners may not in any way participate in the political affairs of the country.

This is the Constitution for non Spanish speakers as translated by the most respected university in Mexico . UNAM

http://www.juridicas.unam.mx/infjur/leg/constmex/pdf/consting.pdf

It brings to light the blatant hypocrisy and effectively shuts off any argument that anyone from Mexico or any other Latin American country might use in order to attempt to justify illegal immigration.
87  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders on: August 13, 2016, 02:13:57 AM
Well, they are authentic socialists, as every worker's paradise has it's elites who live very well, despite the gulags, mass graves and starvation.

Hugo Chavez' daughter somehow became a multimillionaire. Must be from the success of Venezuela's economic model.

It's scientific!

I have some free time on my hands. You bring up an interesting point about old Hugo and socialists in general. I think I'm going to look into what the world's socialist leaders are worth tomorrow, just for the hell of it. I had no idea that Chavez' daughter was so successful. Venezuela's "successful" economic model. Best one I've heard all day.  grin grin grin
88  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues on: August 12, 2016, 02:57:51 PM
This is why Coumo of CNN is the only Cuomo I can stomach .  At least he is honest.  Hillary has been given a free ride by the MSM he says:

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/08/12/cnns-cuomo-comes-right-admits-couldnt-help-hillary-377744


"She's gotten just a free ride."

You don't say.  grin grin grin
89  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / ABC News Live Poll on: August 12, 2016, 10:24:26 AM
I'm certain that ABC leans left, so where CNN and others are getting their numbers in favor of Hillary, I'd like to know.

Who are you Voting for?

Donald Trump (70%, 40,817 Votes)
Jill Stein (18%, 10,247 Votes)
Gary Johnson (7%, 4,176 Votes)
Hillary Clinton (5%, 2,780 Votes)
Darrell Castle (0%, 152 Votes)
Total Voters: 58,172

http://abcnewsgo.co/2016/08/abc-live-poll-who-are-you-voting-for/

This obviously won't account for voters who get "cold feet" come election day, but none of the other polls stating that Hillary is ahead account for that either. Polls can also easily be manipulated by only calling a small number of voters per state, and then calling in the conservative or liberal district one chooses. Online polls are open to everyone.

Just putting this here for everyone's entertainment.
90  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders on: August 12, 2016, 10:17:16 AM
Good research DDF.


Thank you Guru. It just struck me as curious what his wife was worth.
91  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders on: August 11, 2016, 12:48:20 PM
Just because they structure the payoffs as to not be payoffs doesn't make it any less crooked.

Cattle futures!

I agree 100%. I was just looking into Mrs. Sanders' net worth and what she has done besides being let go from Burlington College after running it into the ground (maybe it wasn't her, but they did close less than 5 years after she left.


This article notes that Sanders' wife made about $160,000 a year running the college and that "virtually all of the couple’s assets are in Jane’s name, and they own a condo in D.C. and a rental property in Vermont." It is from February. Interestingly, the house in Maine that they would use to purchase the new home in Vermont is not listed. Many articles place Sanders' net worth between roughly 400K and 700K. They also fail to include his wife's earnings. Not bad for a pair of socialists.

Sanders' wife also justified the purchase of the house on the lake by stating that she had inherited a house in Maine that wasn't being used and used the proceeds from that to purchase the lake house in Vermont.

She purposely hides how much she is worth, Bernie purposely has most of the things in her name, and they're worth a lot more than they admit to.
http://fortune.com/2016/02/28/bernie-sanders-socialist-finances/

"Steady employment begins after the age of 39: In 1981, when Sanders won an election for the Mayor of Burlington, Vermont, the 39-year-old went on the public payroll — earning about $33,700 per year, according to Politico."

How one coverts that to 1.7 million dollars net worth at 74 years of age, only having worked full time for public service for 36 years, would be saving $48,571 per year since working regularly from the age of 39. His wife was making a lot of money, and I found this at Time's website "$1 Million-Plus Nest Egg" http://time.com/money/4235986/bernie-sanders-millionaire-finances/

Although Sanders and his wife’s joint tax return showed income of only a little more than $200,000 for 2014 — including his $174,000 salary," which mean that together, they were clocking her 160K (while she was at Burlington College) and his 174K (334K a year) the idea that they are socialists, and make that much off of "serving the public" is laughable.
92  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: another look on: August 11, 2016, 12:13:36 PM
In fairness to Bernie his net worth including real estate is around 1.7 million if this site is to be believed.  While obviously well off this is a pittance compared to many of the "insiders" in DC:

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/04/17/what-is-bernie-sanders-net-worth.aspx

I will still never understand how someone accumulates 1.7 million doing nothing other than a lifetime of public service work, a carpentry job, and maybe some liberal arts 30 years ago.

La mordida!

Taking into consideration what CCP said, and having managed factories where many of my workers clocked about 65K with overtime, I haven't seen a single one of them become a millionaire. Not even one.

I'm going with what GM said on this.

That brand new, beach front, vacation home on the lake for 600K that he just bought probably has something to do with what I'm thinking. Yep... a man living modestly.

There's a Mexican general under fire right now for having two homes in Texas valued at about 1.5 million. It's raising some serious eyebrows. In the States, they don't even hide it.
93  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: another look on: August 11, 2016, 10:53:37 AM
In fairness to Bernie his net worth including real estate is around 1.7 million if this site is to be believed.  While obviously well off this is a pittance compared to many of the "insiders" in DC:

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/04/17/what-is-bernie-sanders-net-worth.aspx

I will still never understand how someone accumulates 1.7 million doing nothing other than a lifetime of public service work, a carpentry job, and maybe some liberal arts 30 years ago.
94  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: India's poor somehow manage to have voter ID on: August 11, 2016, 10:51:14 AM

Mexico does too. You're not voting here without your IFE (an ID from the Instituto Federal Electoral that EVERY Mexican is required to have specifically to combat voter fraud).

I'll add, that if you're a foreigner here, and so much as speak about Mexican politics, they can and will remove you from the country. That's why you never see any flags other than Mexican ones being flown here.
95  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The confiscations begin in NYC on: August 10, 2016, 12:09:41 PM

WOW.
96  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Prayer and Daily Expression of Gratitude on: August 10, 2016, 11:58:47 AM
Grateful for a letter of recommendation from a Mexican, two star general.

For as much as we disagree here, I would have never gotten here if if were not for the Tribe.
97  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Wikileaks 2016 Presidential Poll on: August 07, 2016, 04:42:17 PM
Wikileaks performed a poll with more than 117,000 people participating.

"While Trump scored 50% of the overall vote, Clinton won just 22%. Green Party candidate Jill Stein followed Clinton with 16% of the vote, and Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson came last with 12%."

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/07/30/wikileaks-poll-117000-votes-trump-wins-with-50/

EDIT: The date from this poll is July 30th, 2016. Still, it speaks volumes as to what people think. Thus far, I am not aware of any media poll having Trump ahead by 28%, much less with the millenial +(wiki audience) crowd.
98  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2016 Presidential on: August 03, 2016, 12:52:42 AM
Actually we here and secret lurker Donald have brought this up  cheesy

All the better. Completely valid.
99  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: A Valid Thought on: August 03, 2016, 12:51:45 AM
I haven't seen it mentioned here, so I'll bring it up.

Suppose that Russia has hacked Clinton. Suppose that they have something that Hillary really doesn't want out there, and that they use this to their advantage? How can anyone trust her with the presidency?

And, as soon as I posted this on facebook, they locked me out of my account for having @malware@ on my computer and to "fix" my computer, but my wife can get into her account no problem.

I thought, I can trust facebook, right? But I'm still not letting them into my computer to "fix" things.... so I investigate....

Facebook has recently been found to censor wikilinks as malware, but come to find, several users are having the same problem. How odd...

https://www.facebook.com/notes/lawrence-bee/really-i-could-not-make-this-shit-up-by-larry-alger-7-9-16/125716004527528

https://www.facebook.com/notes/facebook-security/malware-checkpoint-for-facebook/10150902333195766/

Zuckerberg wouldn't ever use his liberal monopoly to do his part to help Clinton, would he?
100  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / A Valid Thought on: August 02, 2016, 11:49:54 PM
I haven't seen it mentioned here, so I'll bring it up.

Suppose that Russia has hacked Clinton. Suppose that they have something that Hillary really doesn't want out there, and that they use this to their advantage? How can anyone trust her with the presidency?
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