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51  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Web Archives on: March 15, 2017, 09:23:33 AM
Doug, Tujon Crafty.... here the archive on reddit - - let's you archive a site IMMEDIATELY.

There are a number of archiving sites. Some are more trustworty than others, Google - obvousily owning an "archiving" service.

The safest way is to create an archive and save it on your computer or a secondary hard-drive, memory stick, etc.

There are two problems:

1.) won't save audio/video files.

2.) If you save the file on your computer, you won't be able to share it online with the ease that one shares a webpage, unless you have your own website (which isn't all that difficult, depending upon the complexity of the site), with the ease that one could share an existing webpage.

Other Options for archiving - - owned by Google

More information -
52  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Trump Transition/Administration on: March 14, 2017, 11:33:58 PM
When your president is better at trolling than you are....

If you missed it, Donald Trump Jr, hammered Rachel Maddow tonight for proving that his father paid 40 million dollars in taxes. It is a thing of beauty.
53  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc. on: March 14, 2017, 05:44:22 PM
Thanks Doug. Spent a few hours on it.

I don't know squat about Franken. I'll have to read up on it.

I concur completely about Google. I speak Russian and use Russian search engines frequently, and there is a huge difference between what shows and that of or will give you as results. I've noticed it before.

To both you and Crafty.... reddit has a link to a webpage archiving system. I'll see if I can't find it and post it here later. Got to run for a few.
54  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Prosecuting Cases of Voter Fraud on: March 14, 2017, 01:12:41 PM
Prosecuted Instances of Voter Crimes

From the Heritage Foundation:

AL - 12
AK - 1
AZ - 20
AR - 1
CA - 19
CO - 3
CT - 5
FL - 14
GA - 9
HI - 1
ID - 2
IL - 11
IN - 34
IA - 14
KS - 5
KY - 19
LA - 4
ME - 1
MD - 2
MA - 2
MI - 6
MN - 113
MS - 18
MO - 9
NC - 10
NV - 4
NH - 3
NJ - 10
NM - 5
NY - 7
ND - 1
OH - 15
OR - 6
PA - 6
SC - 1
SD - 2
TN - 6
TX - 14
UT - 1
VA - 7
WA - 10
WV - 6
WI - 18
WY - 3

This PDF report is not exhaustive, and generally covers convictions dating back to 1986, with one notable exception of one instance in 1948. It was last modified Tuesday, January 3rd, 2017 on the Amazon server.

Case Law and Statutes

From the Government's 2006 Election Assistance Commission:

Government "Consultants reviewed more than 40,000 cases that were identified using a series of search
terms related to voting fraud and voter intimidation. The majority of these cases came
from courts of appeal. This is not surprising, since most cases that are publicly reported
come from courts of appeal. Very few cases that are decided at the district court level are
reported for public review."

Partisan Media

From the Mainstream Media:

There are numerous news articles from Leftist news organizations that state the voter fraud is not a serious matter. There are so many, I won't attempt to list them here.


How is it then, that with more than 40,000 instances of voter fraud, the majority of which never appear before public scrutiny, that states such as Minnesota and Indiana alone, with a combined population of 12,153,005 people, which isn't even a 1/3 of the population of California, which has 39,250,017 people, not counting the largest illegal population in the country, can generate 147 different people convicted of voter fraud crimes; whereas California has generated only 19 people convicted?

To make matters even clearer:

Minnesota and Indiana have a total of 5,775,957 total ballots counted in the last election. California had 14,610,509 total ballots counted.

Minnesota and Indiana have generated 7.7368 times more PEOPLE convicted of voter related crimes than California has, while having less than a third of the population California has.

If we include New York's population (19,795,791) and people convicted (7) with California's, the totals are  59,045,808 people, with 22,397,390 ballots counted in the last election, with a historic prosecution of voter fraud of 26 convictions, a collective population 4.85 times greater than Minnesota and Indiana, 3.877 as many ballots per ballots cast in Minnesota and Indiana; yet, have only convicted 17% of the people Minnesota and Indiana have managed to?

Are California and New York, who collectively wield 86 electoral votes (honorable mention also goes to Illinois, who is the 5th largest state by population, heavy illegal population, and also does not prosecute voter fraud [11 people convicted] whilst having 21 electoral votes), compared to Minnesota's and Indiana's collective electoral value of 21.

I won't propose any rhetorical questions.

55  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc. on: March 14, 2017, 10:24:05 AM
To speed up  the shifting political power AWAY from the aging white population Kalifornia is proposing this now.  NO other reason for it:

Wow. I've been sitting here investigating election oversight in Wisconsin. I should be focused on California.

There can be no doubt as to what party is driving this:

""We want to expand the opportunity," said Assemblyman Evan Low (D-Campbell), author of the constitutional amendment that would have to be approved by a statewide vote in 2018."

Still...before I start that, I want to see how many of the prosecutors that refuse to file charges against cases of voter fraud are Democrats.

56  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: More Voter Fraud on: March 14, 2017, 09:14:42 AM
It's important to note - this story was on this morning, linking to a story by the Salt Lake Tribune (neither of which are fond of Trump), and are used as "proof" (the "comments" section on the SLT link reflects precisely that mindset), by the Left, that voter fraud on a massive scale isn't happening.

What this story and the other story posted previously fails to take into account, is that:

1.) The data isn't conclusive, nor is it even inclusive of every case.

2.) The stories posted here (including this one), only represent the states of Ohio and Wisconsin, and do not represent the major strongholds of Democrats, in which cases of voter fraud may not be being investigated fervently.

Madison, Wis. • Dozens of 17-year-olds voted illegally across Wisconsin during last spring's intense presidential primary, apparently wrongly believing they could cast ballots if they turned 18 ahead of the November general election, according to a new state report.

Wisconsin Elections Commission staff examined voter fraud referrals municipal clerks said they made to prosecutors following the 2016 spring primary and general elections. The commission is set to approve the findings during a meeting Tuesday and forward a report to the Legislature.

President Donald Trump has called for a "major investigation" into voter fraud and alleged that 3 million to 5 million people may have voted illegally in the November general election, a widely debunked claim. The report lists no instances of underage voters casting ballots in the general election.
Trump: "The press is making Obamacare look so good"
Republican Ted Cruz won the GOP primary in Wisconsin. Bernie Sanders won the Democratic contest. The state ultimately voted for Trump in the November general election, marking the first time a Republican presidential candidate had won Wisconsin since Ronald Reagan in 1984.

The report found at least 60 cases of 17-year-olds voting in the April primary in 29 counties. Kewaunee County referred nine people to prosecutors for voting as 17-year-olds, Rock County referred seven and Racine County referred five. Brown County referred what the report called "multiple" 17-year-olds to prosecutors. The report did not track charging decisions or for whom the 17-year-olds voted.

Commission spokesman Reid Magney said Monday that he'd never seen this issue crop up before. The teenagers were likely encouraged to go to the polls by messages flying around social media during the spring primary season saying 17-year-olds can vote in some states as long as they turn 18 before the November election, the report said.

Some political campaigns were also spreading false information about eligibility, the report said. The Sanders campaign specifically was sending out national messages on social media about 17-year-olds being able to vote in presidential primaries, Magney said, although Wisconsin election officials didn't see any misinformation from that campaign about Wisconsin.

No one under 18 can vote in any Wisconsin election, but 17-year-olds may have seen Sanders' messages and thought they could vote. Poll workers may not have understood the law or may not have been paying enough attention, he added.

"It wasn't a case of anyone sneaking in," Magney said. "It was a misunderstanding of the law."

Sanders campaign officials didn't immediately respond to an email Monday seeking comment.

Kewaunee County District Attorney Andrew Naze said he chose not to charge any of the 17-year-olds whom clerks referred to him. He said they honestly thought they were eligible to vote and didn't intend to break the law. Prosecutors in Rock, Racine and Brown counties didn't immediately respond to messages Monday.

The report noted that its findings aren't conclusive and it's possible other instances of suspected fraud may have been referred to prosecutors without the commission's knowledge or people may have filed complaints directly with district attorneys.

It is obvious that voting in the primary is not the same as casting an official ballot in the presidential election. It does however, mean that minors were involving themselves in an election they had no right to, proving an important point as to the mindset of people in the country who clearly do not follow the law when it will benefit their political beliefs.

If this can be proven, regardless of the scale, and only in places where the desire to ferret out such cases exists, how many people without voting rights, are potentially voting?

There have been several instances in the United States, where elections are decided by very few ballots, and in some cases, even by single ballots.

Just this morning, there is another story in the new by Yahoo (, in which a Guatemalan woman who had come to the United States illegally at the age of 15, and has since had 5 children, is set to be deported. When the risks and rewards for illegal behavior are so high, the motive to vote illegally certainly exists. In places where voter fraud isn't investigated, and with Barrack Obama himself seemingly condoning illegal voting, the need for voter ID has already been established.

An extremely important aspect not mentioned in the story, is that the report mentions "minors" and not "non-citizens." How are they verifying going about the verification of citizenship? Who is on the investigative commission?

Additional Data:

Wisconsin Elections Commission Staff - Alphabetical Listing

Michael Haas   Administrator - Democrat - "Haas, long before he began working for the GAB in 2008, was an aide for then-Assembly Speaker Thomas A. Loftus, D-Sun Prairie, in 1989. And Haas was at the center of campaign finance controversy that pre-dated the so-called “Caucus Scandal” more than a decade later and the more recent unconstitutional John Doe probe the state Supreme Court has ordered shut down."

Mark Thomsen - Wisconsin State Election Commission Chairman Democrat

To be fair, the Wisconsin State Elections Commission consists of six people, divided evenly between Democrats and Republicans. The Democrats do fill the Chair and Vice-Chair positions though.

Edit: Andrew Naze - Kewaunee County District Attorney - is also a Democrat - Listed on page 12 of the following: and page 49 of the following pdf file listed below.

David J. O'Leary - Rock County District Attorney - Democrat - page 55 -

Patricia J. Hanson - Racine County District Attorney - Republican - page 54 -

David L. Lasee - Brown County District Attorney - Republican - page 43 -
57  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Hillary 2020! on: March 14, 2017, 08:36:26 AM
America hasn't suffered enough!

I think there's a strong argument against that GM.  grin grin grin grin
58  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 2020 Presidential election on: March 13, 2017, 11:17:41 AM
We are past 50 days into Trump's term.  It is certainly time to start talking about 2020  .     rolleyes

Will the eventual nominee be a dark horse or some known big shot we already know trying to jump into the power vacuum at the top?

Like Boomer Bloomberg,  Clinton again (Hillary not Chelsea , another Cuomo , Biden, Sanders, Schumer (Charlie not Amy)

That's an excellent subject.
59  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Mexico-US matters on: March 11, 2017, 09:03:15 PM
I hope Chelsea Clinton comes out against nepotism in politics.

I won't hold my breath. I'd trust almost every forum member here (aside from myself) to execute the function of governance better than anyone sitting.

Valuable post there DDF!

Following up on the formation of the PRD-- I thought Munoz Ledo (from Team Louis Echeverria Alvarez) was the one behind that?

Tailwags Tujon GC.

I'm not certain, but I'll look it up and come back and edit the post. I'm about to leave the house for a few. I'll look it up within the next hour. Nepotism as GM rightly alludes to, seems to be a recurring theme in several countries.

Edit:  "In 1986, three PRI members – Rodolfo González Guevara, Porfirio Muñoz Ledo, and Cuauhtémoc Cárdenas – formed the Democratic Current, a political faction within the PRI." "The PRD was formed after the 1988 electoral fraud which sparked a movement away from the authoritarian rule of the PRI.[15] "

Actually.... we were just going over this in school yesterday.... Evidently, the PRI (until just before 1986, was an extremely leftist party... (the professor - a former senator here - and from the Left)... stated that the PRI switched over to the Right for $$$.

Amalia Garcia "After briefly being a member of the Socialist Mexican Party, she became a founding member of the Party of the Democratic Revolution (PRD) when it was created in 1989."

Mexico, being as socialist as it is (and it is VERY much so, especially from an American perspective - example... everyone of our electricity bills from the Federal Electrical Commission, are heavily subsidized by the federal government, where they pay for a healthy portion of it... and several other examples... EXCEPT in medical care.... that's horrible for those that don't have insurance from work... go figure," has several powerful politicians, many of them from the Left....and linked with each other in one way or another...going back years.

Sorry to use wikipedia to cite stuff... but it was quick and relatively accurate.

Ps... the PRI and PRD both still currently belong to a worldwide Socialist movement.
60  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Mexico-US matters on: March 10, 2017, 11:50:25 PM
"He also started the PRD party which is as Left as one can get here."

I had forgotten that.

The governor that just left, before the governor that I worked for Miguel Alonzo Reyes, Amalia Garcia, started it with him.

Anyways... not USA related, but concerning big names in Mexican politics... (and they really only go back a century in their story - the money and power have existed since Spain)... it's good to have on record in English... just for reference:

88 clans control Mexicos Congress

posted May 6, 2015, 7:16 PM by Hernan Cortes

Nepotism in Mexican congress. Are you surprised? 88 families have held control over 455 federal legislative positions during the last 81 years, a period in which when reelection to the legislature has been prohibited, according to an investigation by El Universal news outlet. Of these dynasties, 53 have been present for between nine and 18 years; and 35 between 21 and 57 years, according to an research by El Universal.

A group of 230 legislators that belong to the "castes" that have controlled Mexico's Congress since 1934 have survived to reforms and switched parties to remain in power. Many parliamentarians are candidates in the current electoral process, while others have their clan's seat secured through proportional representation.

Their political heritage lies in their lineage and surname, that open the doors of Congress and political power in general: Rojo-Lugo, Batres, Vicencio, Sansores, Monreal, Alcaine, Manatou, Martínez, Ortega, Padierna.

The biggest "brand" is the Vicencio family, from Xonacatlán de Vicencio, State of Mexico, a town that owes its establishment to Celso Vicencio, local congressman in 1870, the first legislator of the family.

It would be very interesting to do such an research in Baja Sur state government and the municipio of La Paz and Cabo San Lucas...... Somehow I got the feeling that the results will be very similar. The power is within a few names/clans, excessive nepotism and enrichment by connection at the cost of the general population. What else is new....

Find the original report at El Universal Newspaper (english) (spanish)
61  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Mexico-US matters on: March 10, 2017, 06:52:29 PM

Isn't Cardenas the son/grandson of the President from 1934-40?

He's the son of him (General/Mexican President Lázaro Cárdenas del Río). That is correct.

He also started the PRD party which is as Left as one can get here.

Mexico does have it written into its Constitution that anyone can only serve as president once (including those that serve in a temporary capacity); still, people stay in power in certain families for centuries, going all the way back to the Spanish Crown.

A great example of that, is the Monreal dynasty. They currently have 20+ politicians in their family. The Barrios family as well. There are several here.

In Los Angeles, they refer to Beverly Hills as "old money," and Encino being "newer money." Here in Mexico, most money comes from the beginning barring a couple of entrepreneurs and cartels... the rest of it goes all the way back to Spain.
62  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Immigration issues on: March 10, 2017, 03:10:40 PM
Relating to the US-mexico question, Islamophobia in America, etc, our (illegal?) immigration application should offer the choice: Want to assimilate.  Don't want to assimilate. Choose one.

About 3/4's don't want to assimilate, for a mixture of political, personal (family) or economic reasons. The ones that do assimilate, are heavily berated by those that do not (Uncle Tom syndrome applied to Latinos).

I could back that up with various news stories and screen shots of comments in Spanish. It's absolutely the truth.
63  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Mexico-US war revisited on: March 10, 2017, 02:01:45 PM
Map of how that might look here:

I wonder if they would like to restart the war or have the affected territories take a new voice of self-determination?

I want to laugh... then I think of how proud Mexicans are, "cut off one's nose to spite one's face," and I realize that I wouldn't put it past them. And the map you posted it exactly what they want.

I personally like the idea of self determination...especially with California's attitude lately, and the collossal stupidty of Pelosi.

This in particular:

64  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Mexican Politician Moves to Annul Cession of Territory Made to the US on: March 10, 2017, 01:02:21 PM
I know this is in Spanish (enough people will understand it to get the just of it), but this just happened.

He was a presidential candidate here. It won't happen, but it speaks to the common atitude of Mexicans concerning relations between both contries.
65  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Caveat Lector: Obama & Soros in Macedonia on: March 02, 2017, 05:55:14 PM

A bit off topic:

I'm currently compiling a database of every government in the world, ministries dedicated to gender, their budgets, etc...for my thesis...

The amount of money flowing through the State Department, the UN, and USAID organizations is ridiculous, and almost untracked...certainly not a thing that makes the evening news.. nor does the money's end location.

Edit: I'm also going to add, that globalists such as Soros and Obama must be delighted that the UN is pushing government policy in almost every country on the globe in a third party manner, directly by paying for poorer countries to do what they say... Burkina Faso... Chad... Belize... you name it... If it's a poor country... they are buying their way into power. The US isn't any different... they'll pay to implement policy in the States as well, in whatever form that may take... they definitely do not sovereignty.. and doubting that...just look at the CEDAW treaty, the UN Commission on the Status of Women, and their meeting agendas to insure that UN policy is followed and implemented. It's a fact, and it has nothing to do with what voters in any particular country might want.

Oddly enough... it also drives a decidedly Leftist ideology at the same time... Imagine that.
66  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: How to respond in SCS on: February 28, 2017, 10:21:20 PM

Good video.

War is great for the economy. It would also cut down on the population (especially one with China).

" The U.S. owed China $1.115 trillion as of October 2016."

"That's 27.8 percent of the $3.8 trillion in Treasury bills, notes, and bonds held by foreign countries." (about 6% of the total US debt).

I'm thinking that a war with China would be a great idea. I'd even put my life where my mouth is.

It would quite probably turn into WWIII and with the nuclear exchange usually associated with WWIII. Not a great idea in my mind. This does not mean we roll over. I do agree with throwing some elbows and showing we won't be punked, but it has to be done with a great deal of finesse.

As usual, I learn something new every day. To be honest, before reading this article, I've never even really given the depression a second thought. I do; however, concede the point entirely.. especially when one looks at pics of Nagasaki and Hiroshima, immediately after being bombed, and what they look like today.

And like you.. I also agree with throwing some elbows.... I'm not diplomatic enough to strategize the finesse of it though... never been my strong suit.

Hiroshima -

Nagasaki -

67  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Climate Change? Really? on: February 28, 2017, 12:23:32 PM
Climate change. What an MIT Professor dedicated to the subject for more than 30 years has to say about it.
68  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: History on: February 28, 2017, 12:20:47 PM
 shocked shocked shocked shocked
69  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: How to respond in SCS on: February 28, 2017, 12:17:32 PM

Good video.

War is great for the economy. It would also cut down on the population (especially one with China).

" The U.S. owed China $1.115 trillion as of October 2016."

"That's 27.8 percent of the $3.8 trillion in Treasury bills, notes, and bonds held by foreign countries." (about 6% of the total US debt).

I'm thinking that a war with China would be a great idea. I'd even put my life where my mouth is.
70  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / More Than 100 Illegal Voters in Ohio - Ohio Secretary of State on: February 28, 2017, 11:55:49 AM
The Ohio Secretary of State has found hundreds of non-citizens registered to vote in the state, with more than a hundred of them, who were found to have cast votes at some time, and 82 of them casting votes in the last election.

“In light of the national discussion about illegal voting it is important to inform our discussions with facts. The fact is voter fraud happens, it is rare and when it happens, we hold people accountable,” Secretary Husted said.

This is what covering one's rear end looks like. That is several Americans who have had their right to a vote stifled, with even one being too many. We're now talking about more than a 100 known cases, and hundreds registering to vote, which means at a minimum, that the thought of voting has occurred to them.

“I have a responsibility to preserve the integrity of Ohio’s elections system,” Secretary Husted said. “When you consider that in Ohio we have had 112 elections decided by one vote or tied in the last three years, every case of illegal voting must be taken seriously and elections officials must have every resource available to them to respond accordingly.”

"[...]non-citizens who have not cast a ballot will be sent letters both informing them that non-citizens are not eligible to vote and requesting that they cancel their registration. A follow-up letter will be sent to any individuals that still remain on the rolls after 30 days. Any non-citizens identified that remain on the rolls after being contacted twice will then be referred to law enforcement, according to Husted. - Why not immediately?

Ohio's demographics are stated to have  240,699 known non-citizens, with the majority being from Mexico. If the demographics for this register a number this high, for a state that ranks relatively low with illegal alien populations, how many non.citizens (illegal or documented), have voted in states where the non-citizen populations number in the millions - California, Florida, Illinois, New Jersey, New York and Texas? Four of those states voted Democrat, with the other two being very close toss-ups in the last election.

Census data -

Pew's illegal population numbers -
71  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: LGBT Girl to "Boy" Transition on Steroids Wins Texas Girl's Wrestling Title on: February 26, 2017, 02:24:38 PM
Doping in sports is now ok, if you're "transitioning" from one gender to the other. It may well be the first time a girl has had an undeafeted run all the way to the state title.

Dancing Dog and I grew up wrestling in Iowa (where to this day, it remains the national sport and is revered), there is no way I would wrestle this person... because if you lose, you lose...and if you win, you won against a girl. I wouldn't do it.

By the current LBGTQWTF rules, if you wake up one morning and decide you are female, then you are, no makeup, dresses or surgery required. So, unaltered males that declare themselves female are now free to dominate women's sports. Oh, and enjoy the view of the locker room. Any female that protests gets shamed for her vile bigotry.

As usual, you're correct. I wonder how that would work in terms of grants and loans specifically for women? I wonder if any men have gamed that angle yet.
72  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / LGBT Girl to "Boy" Transition on Steroids Wins Texas Girl's Wrestling Title on: February 26, 2017, 09:45:31 AM
Doping in sports is now ok, if you're "transitioning" from one gender to the other. It may well be the first time a girl has had an undeafeted run all the way to the state title.

Dancing Dog and I grew up wrestling in Iowa (where to this day, it remains the national sport and is revered), there is no way I would wrestle this person... because if you lose, you lose...and if you win, you won against a girl. I wouldn't do it.
73  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Morena Party; Mexican government support for illegals to and in US on: February 26, 2017, 03:09:24 AM
Morena is growing in power daily here.

Mexico is already a socialist country... Morena will make it more so.

I'm wondering how long Mexico will keep its public support of migrants migrating north? Amerins by and large don't know it, but Mexico actually has public departments that promote (even illegal) immigration to the States, because of the amount of cash sent back to Mexico.

There are Ministries dedicated to this in every single state in Mexico.

Also noteworthy, are the huge clubs of Mexicans in the United States (primarily in Los Angeles and Chicago - being the largest amongst them), where i have personally guarded the governor here whilst meeting with them when they have returned to sponsor what they call a 3 for 1 program, wherein, the government here invests 3 pesos for every peso the clubs send back to Mexico....

You will notice that every link I attached has the ".gob" suffix, which is the Mexican equivalent of .gov, designating a government website.

The only reason Americans on't know the extent of this charade, is because they don't speak Spanish, and generally, anyone speaking Spanish in the States, supports the effort.

It's a scam of epic proportions... driven by dire need and corruption here. Americans get screwed in the process, as do Mexicans... because it allows the government here, to keep Mexicans dependant upon the US economy instead of fixing the economy here.

To date, there have only been something like 6 Mexican aircraft manufacturers, with only ONE currently producing driones... there has never been a Mexican helicopter.... there are zero Mexican car manufacturers, but they'll bu Nissan Tsurus by the ton (every taxi in the country is one almost).... and it isn't because Mexico lacks engineers that are capable of this.... it's because of a few things... government wanting to keep people dependent upon the government and ripping off the US economy being chief amongst them...

Even the drug war here could be combatted by developing the economy.... but they don't.
74  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Chris Cuomo of CNN on: February 25, 2017, 07:36:29 AM

This is perturbing... and the fact that he's a leader, makes it even more so.
75  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Mexico admits enabling Haitians to get to US border on: February 24, 2017, 05:21:25 PM
Strong article there GM.

Note the temporary visas granted Haitians so they can get to US border mentioned in this article:

It's important to note... the Mexican Constitution specifcally allows for anyone having the right to pass through the national territory. Article 11:

"Article 11. Everyone has the right to enter and leave the Republic, to travel through its
territory and to change his residence without necessity of a letter of security, passport,
safe-conduct or any other similar requirement. The exercise of this right shall be
subordinated to the powers of the judiciary, in cases of civil or criminal liability, and to
those of the administrative authorities insofar as concerns the limitations imposed by the
laws regarding emigration, immigration and public health of the country, or in regard to
undesirable aliens resident in the country."
76  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues on: February 24, 2017, 05:17:14 PM
CNN true to form tries to attack Trump for leaving them out.

Why should he invite them.  They are 24 /7 trying to attack him and delegitamize him.  So they have the chuzpah to question him when he doesn't feel like be gracious to them.

He ain't going to win them over no matter what he does , unless he turns into a total liberal over night , so why bother.

I say good for him.

I echo that sentiment.
77  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Bigot shoots Indians on: February 24, 2017, 05:16:36 PM

As opposed to the "Fry them like Bacon" crowd.

Looking at what happened in the former Yugoslavia is probably a good map for what is probably coming.

Exactly correct.

People always think that the US has some type of magical pixie dust sprinkled on it, where REALLY bad things can't happen... even after the Soviet Union fell in less than a day.
78  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Mexico-US matters on: February 24, 2017, 01:33:44 AM
If people in the States for the most part, knew what is published in the news here, and said in the streets, whilst having a firm grasp on what Mexican law states about foreigners speaking their political opinions...

Trump, and the people that support him aren't just hated.... they are LOATHED, which is odd coming from a country and people that will boot any foreigner from the country for saying anything about politics.... almost ten years here... and number of American flags I've seen being waved here? Not even one.
79  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Coming soon on: February 24, 2017, 01:28:43 AM

I'm a realist....

Drawing from her bottomless well of stupidity

It's coming.
80  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: after all this repubs have no plan on: February 23, 2017, 07:37:49 PM

I like that they don't have an answer for it. Just repeal the POS and let the free market sort it out. Kind of the idea behind freedom. The whole "wiping your own rear end" kind of thing.
81  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Mexico-US matters on: February 22, 2017, 01:51:47 PM
Regarding Osuna....

"En el que capturaron a unos de los lugartenientes del \”Teo\” mas mencionados, el “Kaibil”, junto con otros de sus colaboradores, además también se capturaron a unos escoltas o ex-escoltas del gobernador Osuna Milán, a ministeriales, policías estatales y policías municipales de Rosarito."

Not getting into a tit for tat deal with anyone else you know Guru.... I have nothing but respect for you and anyone else you know.

My point is merely... the news and other sources do in fact say "things."

Then again... I have always stated.... "what happens in Vegas... stays in Vegas. What happens in Mexico... never even happened."There is a lot of truth in that.
82  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Mexico-US matters on: February 22, 2017, 01:42:41 PM
I'm an unusually well informed, Mexican friend too.

Osuna has his detractors in the news, but then again, so does everyone. I don't know the guy personally. He left office here in 2013.... I had only started in 2012.

The governor here on the other hand.... I have more than a few photos with and know him well. Monreal... does have knowledge that he probably shouldn't have.

If you want me to admit whether there are clean politicians or not, who's to say? There are plenty of stories concerning almost every one of them floating around in the news... even Peña Nieto goes from being corrupt to being "the best president in the world" (they literally said that), in the course of a week.

The police here, with anything above municipal and penitentiary police, are almost all former military and especially escoltas.

Not sure what the point is. I know what I've seen being here, working here and living here, for years.

Then again... soon to be none of my business.

83  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Alt Right on: February 22, 2017, 09:48:24 AM
Maybe it's just me.... but I have always had a problem with Milo being the face of the Alt-Right....and not because I would deny him the freedom to be himself (so long as it doesn't involve children, animals...etc.). I wouldn't.

It's more along the lines of the Left attacking anything moderately mainstream ie., White, Christian, etc.... that the face of the alt-right has to be something like Milo to even obtain a voice that isn't attacked instantly.

It's ridiculous.
84  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Coulter cuts Congress: The Silence of the lambs Congress on: February 22, 2017, 08:36:02 AM
February 15, 2017


Where's the Obamacare repeal? Where are the hearings featuring middle-class Americans with no health insurance because it was made illegal by Obamacare?


To be fair... the IRS is now processing tax returns where the filer hasn't indicated whether they hold the required insurance, but even that was Trump's doing through an executive order.
85  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Trump Administration - Nikki Haley - Starting Things Nicely with the UN on: February 22, 2017, 08:18:00 AM
Someone isn't taking any crap when it cmes to the US/Israel relations....

Basically tells the UN to get stuffed. I applaud this approach.
86  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Mexico-US matters on: February 20, 2017, 09:52:56 PM
I might add that the third one passed on trying for the presidency and went back to being governor of BCN or BCS where he was reputed to have gotten quite wealthy while governor there previously-- presumably working in concert with local cartel(s).  (Working from memory here based on an article I read in Proceso the last time I was in Mexico.

Do I have this right DDF?

You do.

With the last administration here, they approved a federal loan of billions and billions of pesos. In order to pass the measure, there are many that say the votes to pass the measure, were purchased. The population was clearly against it. They have now issued a criminal case against him -

Now... with the new administration, things like seat belt tickets are appearing....a new state tax levied at the Canadian mine owners... that the Federal government just shot down... and the outgoing governor now in hot water for mismanagement of funds (he was #3 favored to be future president).... due to my status here...I cannot speak to politics without being in danger of being expelled from the country.... but I can say, there are lots and lots of stories covered publicly in the media, with proof of corruption, and all other manners of misbehavior or worse.
One of the worst case scenarios, is the case of the Monreal Family.... almost all of whom, work in the government industry, come from farms.... and have grown so rich, that one of them (David Monreal IIRC), now has mansions in Malibu and other places in the US. His relative Ricardo is now a senator here...and had written a book (Escuadras de la Muerte) . . . .... where he describes even the age and gender on average... of sicarios.... even info that we don't have... and is said to run with the Zeta cartel, as well as is blamed for their presence here where I am at.

In my personal experience, I can say that there are almost certainly agreements between the cartels and high level politicians, because when there are not (and there have been times when this is readily apparent - administration changes, etc...)... the body counts, public executions, narcomantras and firefights spike notably.

I'm almost done with my degree in law here... and have gotten to a point, where I tire of the whole deal.... and am just looking to bring my wife back and see what we will do from there. I have possibilities in the works... haven't really heard anything from any of them.. but that's where I'm at with all of it... Had I been born Mexican, I may feel differently, but I wasn't... and that is made clear here to me daily...

Be fighting you all again in gatherings shortly I imagine. My wife sends her regards.

Edited to include the source on the charges against Miguel Alonso Reyes.
87  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Mexico-US matters on: February 20, 2017, 03:00:40 PM
And two dead Secretarias de Gobernacion (the #2 post in the country, and quite commonly the next president) from odd plane/helicopter crashes during the previous administration , , ,


It's Mexico.
88  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Mexico-US matters on: February 20, 2017, 10:15:30 AM
Both. It's Mexico and there is a full on drug war here. Everything goes.

Edit: There are several public cases of both. No rumors.... mass graves.... all kinds of things.
89  DBMA Espanol / Espanol Discussion / Re: Mexico on: February 19, 2017, 12:30:19 PM
Right next to here.
90  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Things are getting medieval on the border , , , on: February 19, 2017, 12:27:11 PM

"No arrests made" means several things here.
91  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc. on: February 17, 2017, 08:13:17 PM

and this poll was only Latinos.    What about the millions of others who are here illegal or legally but are non citizens who may have registered to vote.

Anyone think there ain't people from Asia or Europe or Africa who are not voting illegally?

There seems no easy way to find this out or else it would be in the open
The Dems like it that way obviously.

An excellent point, and one that I used in my original calculations, which may explain for my number being higher. I used the numbers from USCIS and the US Census as my sources, being that they didn't just count Latinos.

Either way, it definitely needs to be investigated, voting machines done away with, paper ballots, voter ID, and civilian, multiparty oversight of vote counting.

Barring that, it's still the adage "garbage in, garbage out."
92  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Like I Said.... non citizens and illegals are voting on: February 17, 2017, 02:52:36 PM

Between 38,000 and 2.1 million of them... my number is actually higher.

The number of non citizens registered to vote (a crime).... will be telling.
93  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / This is Semi-Significant on: February 01, 2017, 09:12:10 PM
This ruling could be the doorway for third party politics to enter the fray in the United States. As some may recall, I spent a bit f time picking them apart a while ago, when I thought that Johnson may have warranted my support.
94  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: California on: January 29, 2017, 07:18:46 PM
I'm sickened when I think of the state I was born in and what has happened to it.

It brings out the very worst in me.
95  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: SS agent who said she will not take bullet for Trump. on: January 29, 2017, 07:17:20 PM
This is straight  forward based on what is in the news.

She needs to be dismissed.  Yes "times have changed" for her too:

I can't even fathom why she's still there, or why her superiors or coworkers would even tolerate her presence after something like that. She's now a liability.
96  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / White House Website Now English Only on: January 29, 2017, 07:15:29 PM
So much win.....
97  DBMA Espanol / Espanol Discussion / Re: Chistes, Bromas on: January 27, 2017, 08:54:21 PM
 grin grin grin grin grin
98  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: The Politics of Health Care on: January 27, 2017, 08:37:48 PM
I stopped paying for health insurance and broke out my Tribal ID card and went to the local tribal health clinic. The prescription I used to pay 30 bucks a month for now costs one dollar.

Indians are exempted from Obamacare!

I have never paid a dime and refuse to.

I don't know how true it is, but I read today, that the Don just signed an executive order, eliminating the IRS fines for not purchasing that polished t.rd.

EDIT: Yep... he's only signed one order thus far, but here it is....

"Sec. 2. To the maximum extent permitted by law, the Secretary of Health
and Human Services (Secretary) and the heads of all other executive departments
and agencies (agencies) with authorities and responsibilities under
the Act shall exercise all authority and discretion available to them to
waive, defer, grant exemptions from, or delay the implementation of any
provision or requirement of the Act that would impose a fiscal burden

on any State or a cost, fee, tax, penalty, or regulatory burden on individuals,
families, healthcare providers, health insurers, patients, recipients of
healthcare services, purchasers of health insurance, or makers of medical
devices, products, or medications. "
99  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: California on: January 27, 2017, 08:36:28 PM
Understood. I'm just wondering how long the ties that bind will last.

100  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: Mexico-US matters on: January 27, 2017, 08:33:42 PM
A spark, or the absence of some very large security guys, could have set this thing off:

Wow! After being here, learning the law, earning the culture of Mexico (not of those in the States specifically, but that of deep Mexico), the attitudes of Mexicans in general, the hypocrisy, I refer back to GM's comment.

If anything, it has made me less cultured... not more.
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