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401  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Music on: April 14, 2007, 03:05:23 AM
That was amazing!
402  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Internet and related technology on: April 13, 2007, 05:43:33 PM
As it goes to show, you can harden the exterior all you want but most threats come from within.


--Navy Computer Sabotage Draws One-Year Prison Sentence (April 5, 2007) A former government contractor has been sentenced to one year in prison for sabotaging Navy computers after his company's bid for another project was not accepted.  Richard F. Sylvestre has pleaded guilty to one count of damaging protected computers; he could have faced up to 10 years in prison.  Sylvestre's company at the time, Ares Systems, had a contract to maintain computers for the Navy's 6th Fleet in Naples, Italy.  Sylvestre admitted to placing malicious code on the Navy computers.  The computers were used to help submarines navigate and
avoid collisions with undersea hazards and other submarines.   Sylvestre
has also been ordered to pay a fine of US $10,000 and will serve three years probation following his release from prison.  He has repaid the Navy US $25,000 for damages.
[Editor's Note (Northcutt): [Editor's Comment (Northcutt): It is important to memorize a few stories like this one, and share them with others, because most organizations do not give enough attention to the insider threat. It is natural to want to trust your own people. Richard has had access to DoD systems since at least year 2000 as the link below shows, so you have to wonder what else he has done to reduce the security of our nation's computers:
403  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: VIDEO CLIPS OF INTEREST on: April 13, 2007, 01:58:35 PM
Found this while browsing another forum:

One caption in the video states "Approximately 80% of all U.S. Law enforcement agencies have incorporated Filipino Martial Arts."

404  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Internet and related technology on: April 12, 2007, 05:56:56 PM
In regards to the above post, the Army is beginning or have been changing their views on information warfare for some time now.  I attended a briefing and basicly vulnerabilities that are caused by "dumb" mistakes are taken seriously and viewed the same as leaving the door to the arms room open. Information Security is turning into a hotspot. 

1. Security Myths
Myth: I don't have to worry about identity theft because I never buy anything online using my credit card.
Truth: Not so, says, the 2006 Identity Fraud Survey Report, released by the Council of Better Business Bureaus and Javelin Strategy & Research.
Most personal information compromises--90 percent--take place through traditional offline channels and not via the Internet. Lost or stolen wallets, checkbooks, or credit cards continue to be the primary source of personal information theft (30%). Almost half (47%) of all identity theft is perpetrated by friends, neighbors, in-home employees, family members or relatives--someone known to the victim.  Persons 65 years and older have the lowest rate of identity fraud (2.3%).  The majority of victims are between the ages of 35 and 44, and within that group, the average amount of the fraud  is $9,435 per incident.
More information:
405  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Tapado on: April 11, 2007, 08:03:23 PM
Wow, the ability to share information visually & aurally through youtube is just awesome.

This is a lot of material to digest, I hope more people post as they digest all this info.

If you look at the clips that were in the "Toa" Thread, you will see that striking was similar but not that much information is available on the Maori "staff."
406  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread on: April 10, 2007, 09:28:37 PM
His right hand rarely left his head as apposed to all of the fighters that hold their hands low and off their head.

I agree, he was throwing some nice body shots too.

Next weeks UFC should be a good show too!
407  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: TOA: Maori reality TV clips on: April 09, 2007, 04:23:58 PM
Another clip from the site:

This one slows down the action some..
408  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: 300 on: April 09, 2007, 02:46:01 PM
This might be a dumb question and since it was taken from a comic book, I was just wondering about the accuracy of the sword that the Spartans used? I thought it looked pretty cool.

See here:

Thanks for the link Blain!
409  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / TOA: Maori reality TV clips on: April 09, 2007, 12:14:59 PM
I found these clips on youtube this morning....


SPOT - T.O.A - Toa O Aotearoa - Indigenous Maori warriors fighting skills put to the test. Enjoy a SNEAK PREVIEW into inner sanctum of Maori weaponry and warfare. More info at More previews...coming soon! from user NZTOA

Ko te iwi Toa e ngunguru nei!
Au, au, aue ha hi!

Ko wai ka eke ki te taumata T.O.A
Au, au, aue ha.

Mauri Toa!

Sorry this clip is from something else but notice the delivery of the two strikes.
410  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: VIDEO CLIPS OF INTEREST on: April 05, 2007, 03:32:01 AM
I dont recall seeing this one listed.  Give it a a few seconds and then it picks up...  Worth the wait.

Nice clip.

Sifu Rick Miyahara kinda looks like one of the competitors in one of the clips on the The Grandfathers Speak, I think he appears in a clip right before Top Dog performs his seguida but I could be wrong, lol.
411  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Music on: April 04, 2007, 02:31:21 PM
That was a nice tune, it reminded me of that one movie which has some great music in it too "O Brother Where Art Thou"

Man of constant Sorrow - Hot Damn! These the Soggy Bottum Boys

The Sirens
412  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: What would you have done? on: April 03, 2007, 01:46:58 PM
I too was curious about "Bystander Apathy" so I googled it and found the following article:

As a female and as a child growing up I was constantly reminded of the anecdote, "there is safety in numbers". In all honesty I have felt that I was safer in a crowd than in an alley, with one or two people. According to research however, this is a false sense of security due to a phenomenon known as the bystander effect. A person in trouble is much safer when there is only one or two people than if there is a large crowd of people in the vicinity (Latane & Darley, 1968). Whether a bystander helps someone depends on their self-interest, mood, and empathetic concern (Lord, 1997). It is important to address this notion because many people other than myself still have this false sense of security, and an awareness of it could reduce the possible negative outcomes of the bystander effect.

    Davis and Palladino (1997) define the bystander effect as the tendency for a group of bystanders to be less likely than an individual to help a person in trouble. A bystander experiences qualms with the possibility of embarrassment, not knowing how to help and very often experiences a diffusion of responsibility (Davis and Palladino, 1997). The famous incident that sparked the concern of the possibility of bystander apathy (essentially ignoring a person in trouble) was the murder of Kitty Genovese. In 1964, she was publicly stabbed to death while people watched from their apartments and did nothing to help her (Davis and Palladino, 1997). Obviously, this event was cause for public concern. John Darley and Bibb Latane, two social psychologists researched the phenomenon and discovered the reasons for why this happens in our society. They demonstrated that helping behavior follows a model of intervention or a decision tree model, that involves five stages, noticing the problem, deciding if it is an emergency, taking responsibility, deciding what to do, and taking action to help. So when a person is in trouble they are better off to be around one or two people than in a crowd of people. As the group size increases a person’s sense of responsibility is decreased because they essentially feel that "someone else will do something" (Latane and Darley, 1968).

    I have always felt safer around the "macho" men (Army guy, body builder, athlete), a doctor, nurse or police officer simply because they are strong and trained to help you. A stronger seeming man is again a false sense of security. According to research done by Tice and Baumeister (1985), a highly masculine man is actually less likely to help someone in trouble. Essentially a highly masculine man, or "macho man" is less likely to intervene in a situation unless it is clearly defined as an emergency because they risk embarrassment. The explanation for this is a stereotypically make concern with "keeping their cool", and not seeming to overact (Latane and Darley, 1968). According to Latane and Darley (1968), there is actually no evidence of any gender differences in helping behavior, however there are differences in terms of the competence of the bystander. According to research by Cramer, McMaster, Bartell, and Dragna (1988) feeling safer around a person who is trained to help in an emergency is warranted because they are more likely to help. So a police officer, doctor or nurse are bystanders who would help in an emergency situation because they feel competent (Cramer, et al, 1988).

    Research done by Gottleib and Carver (1979) demonstrates the possibility of reducing bystander apathy, or a person’s unwillingness to help. Their research showed that if there is a chance that a bystander will have to face the person in trouble again, they are more likely to help them. They further found that like Darley and Latane found, the bystander effect is weakened if they are aquatinted with the person in trouble. Gottleib and Carver concluded that the bystander effect reliably occurs only under conditions of anonymity (Gottleib and Carver, 1979). A person is unable to ignore someone in need if they risk interacting with him in the future. A person who is contemplating helping someone in trouble is mindful of the gains, and the consequences of doing so. It seems that those costs and benefits are weighed before helping someone in need.

    Interestingly, when a person is in a good mood they are more likely to help someone in trouble. This is so consistent that researchers have termed it "the warm glow of good will" a notion discovered by Berkowitz and Connor in 1969 (Lord, 1997). People who are in a good mood tend to regard the world more positively, which enables them to focus on the gains of helping in a situation. Furthermore people in a good mood want to seem like good people, so they help as a way to gain praise, and reinforcement (Berkowitz 1987; Gibbons & Wicklund, 1982). Researchers have even found that helping a person can improve a negative mood (Cunningham, Steinburg, & Grev, 1980) but people are not likely to help if their mood cannot be improved from the helping.

    When a bystander is determining whether or not to help in an emergency situation they are going through a process of decision making theorized and termed by Latane and Darley as the Decision Tree Model Of Helping. In this process a person must first notice that there is an emergency, and actually interpret it as an emergency (Lord, 1997). Once a person has deemed the situation an emergency they are significantly influenced by the amount of people that are present which is the bystander effect. If there are many people it is at this point that a person’s sense of responsibility diffuses. The possible problem with this, as seen in the Kitty Genovese case, everybody in the crowd senses of responsibility diffuse leaving no one to help. If there are a few people or if the bystander is alone, then apathy does not occur according to research (Latane & Darley, 1968). This is because the bystander feels responsible, and fears feelings of guilt. Once the bystander has taken responsibility they must feel capable of offering assistance and then something can be done. This process is what Latane and Darley theorize that bystanders go through when faced with an emergency situation.

    The bystander effect is a real phenomenon and there are incidents that occur today even with an awareness of the possible consequences of it. In June of this past summer there was a significant occurrence in Central Park during a Puerto Rican Day parade in Fifth Avenue. A mob of men were attacking women, robbing them and throwing water on them. This was in the middle of the day, when there were hundreds of people around watching. The women went to the police but they were ignoring the commotion. This is a recent example of the power of the bystander effect. The more people that were there, the fewer people were willing to help. Disturbingly however, the police officers were not. The bystander effect can have serious consequences if people are not aware of its force in a situation.

    The bystander effect is a real and possibly dangerous phenomenon. I think that people should be more aware of the consequences of it, and perhaps there will be fewer incidences of people not being helped. I think that if people are mindful of the latter influences on helping behavior then there will be less bystander apathy. Latane and Darley were the pioneers of this notion and there research central to the understanding of the bystander effect. Today people are still comforted by the presence of many people, especially at night, or in an alley, it is important that they are aware that being around crowds of people in a potentially dangerous situation is not always safe.


Berkowitz, L. (1969). The frustration aggression hypothesis. In L. Berkowitz (Ed.), Roots of Aggression: A re-examination of the frustration-aggression hypothesis (pp. 1-28). New York: Atherton

Berkowitz L. (1987). Mood, self-awareness, and willingness to help. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 52, 721-729.

Cramer, R., McMaster, M., Bartell, P., &Dragna, M. (1988). Subject Competence and Minimization of the bystander effect. Journal of Applied Social Psychology, 18, 1132-1148.

Cunningham, M.R. (1979). Weather, mood, and helping behavior: Quasi experiments with the sunshine samaritan. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 37, 1947-1956.

Davis, S., Palledino, J., (1997). Psychology, second edition (pp. 659-670). Prentice-Hall, Inc. Simon & Schuster, New Jersey.

Gottleib, J., Carver, C. (1980). Anticipation of future interaction and the bystander effect. Journal of Experimental Social Psychology, 16, 253-260.

Latane, D., Darley, J. (1968). The unresponsive bystander: Why doesn’t he help? NY: Appelton-Centruy-Crofts.

Latane, B., & Darley, J.M. (1976). Help in a crisis: Bystander response to an emergency. In J.W. Thibaut & J.T. Spence (Eds.), Contemporary topics in social psychology (pp. 309-332). Morristown, NJ: General Learning Press.

Lord, C. (1997). Social psychology. Fort Worth: Harcourt Brace College Publishers. (454-489).

Tice, D., Baumeister, R. (1985). Masculinity inhibits helping in emergencies: Personality does predict the bystander effect. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 49, 420-428. "The killing of Kitty Genovese" March, 13, 1964. "More woman and girls tell of attacks by mob of men in New York"June 14, 2000.

413  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / ICON: Trigg vs Lawler clip on: April 02, 2007, 06:11:03 PM
Found a clip of last Saturdays ICON event.

Trigg vs Lawler - Last round
414  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Slapped! on: March 31, 2007, 01:25:55 PM

Can anyone translate the conversation?
415  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread on: March 29, 2007, 12:10:51 PM
TUF 5 sounds like it is going to be awesome, someone already leaked out an incident that should appear on the first episode. I read that Bj really got on Jens nerves and by the end of the season they are going to throw down with some mean intent.

The Andy Wang interview is great! I cant wait to see him fight.
416  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Spike TV, the Dog Brothers Gathering Webisodes; National Geographic on: March 28, 2007, 08:27:10 PM
In regards to the November gathering is the original location still a possibility? 
417  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: What would you have done? on: March 28, 2007, 08:18:58 PM
What would I do??  I would step in and put myself in between the woman and the off duty cop and hope that the other patrons would stick up for me when the good officers finally arrived.  Technique wise? That fact that he is an off duty officer is a big factor on what I would do as far as striking but as for watching the video I see an instance where the guy on the left with the baseball cap could bumrush the guy, bounce him off a wall / counters and knock him down then maybe at least the others would assist.  I think the main focus would be to get him AWAY from the girl.
418  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: What would you have done? on: March 23, 2007, 03:54:53 AM
I believe a gathering is quite different than this assualt, at a gathering it is an agreement to fight and the people train for that event.  The bartender put herself in harms way to protect another patron. Also, at a gathering fighters activate their watcher to keep themselves from going beyond the threshhold.  In this case the guy is lucky he didnt kill the woman in a drunken rage.
419  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Drums on: March 22, 2007, 08:26:11 PM
I really dig the drums by Brent Lewis on the DBMA videos as well as the other music...

I sent some time goofing around on youtube and found some cool Tahitian Drums.
420  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Music on: March 22, 2007, 03:52:56 PM
A nice clip of the live version of Chan Chan by the Buena Vista Social Clip

Well I know there was a documentary so I dont know if this is from it, there are some other clips of the Buena Vista Social Club on youtube as well.

Here is a clip that is from February of 2007:
421  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / SANS Security Tip of the Day on: March 20, 2007, 04:38:45 PM
SANS Security Tip of the Day

Tip: People Forget, Computers Don't      
In 2003, the British Government published a report on Iraq's security and intelligence organizations.  Then a Cambridge University lecturer discovered that much of the document was copied from three different articles, one written by a graduate student.  How did he know? The document contained a listing of the last 10 edits, even showing the names of the people who worked on the file. Hidden data can often be found within Microsoft Office documents particularly Word.  Whenever you exchange documents with clients, either convert them to PDF format
(WYSIWYG) or else run them through Microsoft's Hidden Data Removal tool.

For more info, and to download Microsoft's Hidden Data Removal tool, see
422  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Internet and related technology on: March 19, 2007, 05:23:58 PM

U.S. networks pumped out the highest percentage of attacks during the second half of last year, with China running a distant second, according to a report released Monday by security firm Symantec.

The U.S. accounted for 31 percent of malicious activity originating from computer networks, while 10 percent came from China and 7 percent from Germany, Symantec said in its Internet Security Threat Report.

The company also found that 51 percent of all known servers used by attackers to buy or sell stolen personal information, such as credit card or bank account numbers, are located in the U.S.

U.S.-based credit cards, with accompanying verification numbers, were found to be selling for $1 to $6 each on these servers. But a more thorough roundup of personal-identification data--including a person's birthdate and banking, credit card and government-issued identification numbers--fetched $14 to $18, the report noted.

Internet thieves increasingly are turning to Trojan-horse software, which can load keylogging software onto unsuspecting victims' computers. The software is able to harvest people's log-in names and passwords to various accounts and can glean other sensitive information people type into their computers.

Trojans accounted for 45 percent of the top 50 malicious code samples collected by Symantec during the second half of last year, up from 23 percent in the previous six months. Symantec noted that that significant jump further reflects a movement away from mass-mailing worms--programs that spread software viruses and clog networks.

Phishing, an attempt by attackers to trick people into revealing personal or financial information, largely occurs during the weekday, the report noted. Many phishing attacks begin with an e-mail that appears to be from a legitimate source but in fact contains a malicious attachment or includes a link to a malicious Web site. During the second half of the year, a daily average of 961 phishing e-mails were sent to people on weekdays; 27 percent fewer phishing messages were sent out on weekends.

423  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: 300 on: March 16, 2007, 04:37:09 PM
This might be a dumb question and since it was taken from a comic book, I was just wondering about the accuracy of the sword that the Spartans used? I thought it looked pretty cool.
424  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Politics & Religion / Re: 300 on: March 15, 2007, 04:22:25 PM
Im thinking people are reading too much into the movie, I mean the movie is coming from a comic book adaptation, it's colorful and vivid LIKE the comic book.
I agree it is among my top 10, I cant wait for the DVD to come out. I almost wish I had a DVD system in my truck so I have it on while I drive to meet the guys at the park on Saturdays. Im surprised no one mentioned the immortals were using blades that were "ninja" like and the uniforms were ninja like too. Anyway...
425  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: The Dog Brothers Tribe on: March 15, 2007, 02:29:30 PM
Congrats Tom!!!
426  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread on: March 08, 2007, 05:22:16 PM
ESPN 360 Interview with Randy Couture

I dont think there is a way to directly link to it.

427  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Tippy-tappy drills-- threat or menace? on: March 08, 2007, 02:13:15 PM
OK... I was while searching for more concrete info that Bruce was a Cha-Cha Champion I found this as well...

Why Martial Artists make Better Dancers
The Link between Martial Arts and Dancing 
Did you know that Bruce Lee - perhaps one of the greatest legends in martial arts - was also Hong Kong Cha Cha Champion in 1958? Indeed, Bruce Lee was an accomplished Latin dancer in his home town of Hong Kong before moving to the US to study and develop his martial arts system of Jeet Kune Do (Way of the Intercepting Fist)..   
So what was it about dancing that the young Bruce found so interesting, when to the rest of the world would only know him for his fighting skills?
Well here is one good reason: great dancing needs a lot of talent in all the right dance areas, including balance, timing, co-ordination, foot work and sensitivity. Superior martial artists require many of the same skills, often overlooked by power-hungry males! Martial artists that understand and develop these elusive qualities often naturally move to translate these skills to the dance floor!

The opposite scenario of course applies too: talented dancers are at a huge advantage when starting off in the martial arts. Bringing with them rhythm, timing, physical awareness and flexibility, the transition from dancing to martial arts can be a hugely rewarding one. While the diversions and enjoyment of dancing are multiple, the inner sense of confidence that martial arts can provide is second to none.

A prime quality shared by both dancers and martial artists is the ability to work with a partner, that is, 'the lead'. To be able to read your partner and follow their movements correctly in both time and space, whilst remaining balanced so that the two of you are in total harmony, is at the core of the true martial arts experience.

Anticipating each others intentions and therefore compensating for every possible error in judgment, whether by fault of balance or miss timed movement, is equally critical. In martial arts the action can be a little more intense, but the speed and tempo of great Latin dancing can also approach 'fast and furious'!

You have to execute your skills in defined area and even utilize your peripheral awareness (non-focused lateral visual contact) to avoid collisions on the dance floor.

Sensitivity of the palm and wrist to directional control in order to lead and spin is also used in the martial arts of Wing Chun and Tai Chi, and other systems where perception, awareness, sensitivity and control are highly valued, not just power.

It is interesting to observe that many of the 'showy' dance moves used today could have come straight out of martial arts 'text books' written thousands of years ago. A performance move often seen in partner dancing involves the man sweeping his right leg up and over his outstretched left hand, momentarily breaking contact with his partner - in martial arts otherwise known as an outside crescent kick! Or how about the dynamic spinning routines in break dance where the performer starts by twirling his legs overhead, spins on his back, and then pops onto his hands? No better example can be found than Jet Li's Wu Shu exhibitions in the movie Once Upon a Time in China! Then, of course, there is the example of Capoeira, a beautiful and powerful fusion of Brazilian rhythms, music, dance and martial arts.

Many of the same skills at work in dance are just applicable to the martial arts, and especially in that of Kung Fu where you are not just employing power but all the subtle talents of dancing as well.
By Sigung (and salsa dancer) Geoff Bennett of 'Geoff Bennett Martial Arts International (GBMAI)'.

Geoff has been studying and teaching a hybrid martial arts system based around Kung Fu for over 20 years and is currently in the process of translating his skills to the dance floor. Dancing students can hone their timing, sensitivity, flexibility and dynamic peripheral awareness skills at several GBMAI martial arts classes around Sydney.
428  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Tippy-tappy drills-- threat or menace? on: March 08, 2007, 01:57:55 PM
OK, since we are bringing up dancing Guro Lonely Dog mentioned something else I believe the FMA "tippy tap" drills / sinawali instills in people which is rythmn which is needed to dance as well.  Training to music is always fun, but the click clack of the sticks from sinawalis also produce a nice rythmn, kinda like a metronome 

MT: How does the use of rhythm training (training to music) improve a students performance with regards to fighting in a Gathering?

BR: Again this varies from fighter to fighter and some people just have no rhythm! Someone does not need to have rhythm to be a good fighter. if someone has no rhythm I dont force them to train with rhythm but if they have a bit of feel for it then it can help a great deal. I have developed something called the 'Boogie Woogie' as a specific shadow boxing drill and since I have done this I have discovered how to break rhythm, maintain rhythm and control the pace of a fight. I believe its a major point in fighting to dominate the rhythm you want to fight and how to change that rhythm to disrupt your opponent and force him to create an opening.



The talented & athletic Bruce also took up cha-cha dancing, and at the age of 18 won a major dance championship in Hong Kong.
429  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Tippy-tappy drills-- threat or menace? on: March 07, 2007, 04:45:32 PM
Since dancing was mentioned I found an article on Tinikling:

What do Traditional Filipino Dancers know that could Improve your Arnis, Kali, or Eskrima Skills?

The Tinikling
How Traditional Filipino Dance Can Develop Your Combative Attributes!
By Pete Kautz, 2005
It was roughly 17 years ago when I accidentally discovered a secret about the martial art I was studying. It was something so obvious, something we had all been told about, and even told was important...yet it was something that no one seemed to be paying any attention to. Can you imagine that?

When all the books and Grandmasters of your art mention that something is important, shouldn't you at least be tempted to "look into it" a little?

The thing didn't seem to make any sense!

Here we were studying the martial art of Arnis, a powerful stick, knife, and unarmed fighting system. But all these sources pointed directly to...folk dances???

"Sure," some will scoff, "and what next, maybe eating some adobo to improve my skills, too?" You know, I can't blame the folks who say that, because I felt that way at one point too. But you know what? Even though I felt that way, I've always been glad that I decided to take a chance and try it anyhow.

Now, when your instructor says to you "We need a few more people for a demo, can you help?" how can you respond, but positively? That's how this all got I stumbled across this training method!

What weapons would we be using I wondered? What kinds of cool demo tricks would we do? Break some boards? Maybe a self-defense demo with sticks and knives? These questions and more all raced through my mind as we finished up class that evening, before the "demo team" would meet.

The instructors brought in some long staffs, and we got ready. "I'll need a partner" the male instructor said, "to help demonstrate the Tinikling (teeh-NEEHK-lihng)."

Now, as a novice I had NO IDEA what in the world that was, but it just sounded deadly as hell and I wanted to learn it, so of course ran up up to volunteer.

"The Tinikling is based on the movements of birds known as tiklings." Guru John explained.

Sure, everyone knows how martial arts styles have copied animals, right? So I thought that maybe this was like a Filipino "crane-style" he was going to be showing us.

"Now crouch down and grab the other ends of these two poles." He ordered.

What kind of wild fighting technique was this? Staff groundfighting? And then what happens next?

"Now, hit the polls to the ground two times; and then together, you see?"

As we clacked the poles together on the third beat I caught my knuckles on the sticks. Ouch! This was a lesson in grip on the sticks and how to maneuver them while shifting the stick in your hand. Quickly one learns to keep the rhythm...1-2-3, 1-2-3, 1-2-3...and not smash their fingers!

Then the female instructor then came over an started dancing in between the sticks! I was worried! Wasn't she going to get her ankle caught in the sticks as we clacked them together? She sensed my nervousness and just laughed, "Now speed it up!"

And then things really got crazy!

Guru Tammy stepped out and told us to pay attention. She and and Guru John both picked up their pairs of rattan sticks. They started to do the siniwalli, the hypnotic weaving patterns with the double sticks, where both people strike the canes together. Again, the rhythm was 1-2-3, 1-2-3, 1-2-3.

Then they told us to start the rhythm with the poles again, for the tinikling. They took up their places on the outside, and then proceeded to do the siniwalli while doing the steps of the tinikling! This was amazing! As they wove in and out between the poles, their sticks clacking loudly, the smell of burnt rattan filled the air.

Finally, they both stepped out with a spin, saluted each other and brought the dance to a close.

"Now it's your turn!" said Guru Tammy with a wink...

In the next two weeks I learned enough of the tinikling steps to be able to take part in the demo, and it was a fun, but the best part was seeing the real Filipino dancers that were there!

From the first moment they started to dance, their skill and grace was clearly evident. They had the flow which Professor Presas always spoke of. By comparison, I think we must have looked like mga baka (cattle) doing the tinikling instead of the fleet-footed birds the dance is supposed to emulate!

Some of the dances showed balance and fluidity, like the candle dance. Here the girls had small glass candles balanced on each palm and a third balanced on their head. Unlike some people I have seen doing this dance, these girls did not "cup" or in any way hold onto the candles with their fingers. They made a great point of keeping their palms flat and fingers outstretched. All the while they moved their arms in circles and figure-eights, like in KunTao, Silat, and Pa Kua Chang (Baguajang). They even had movements where they would kneel, then sit, then roll on the floor...all in a delicate "ladylike manner" and all without dropping the candles on their head and hands or spilling any wax!

There was also the Maglalatik (mahg-lah-lah-TIHK) or coconut dance, which seemed more obviously martial in application. The men came out in two groups, half in red pants and half in blue pants. Each was wearing a vest of 4 or 6 half coconut shells and holding a half-coconut in each hand, and they had more strapped onto their hips and thighs! What the heck was this all about???

As the music started, the men all kept the rhythm by hitting the shells in their hands together, and then hitting them into the shells on their chest and thighs. Then the two sides turned towards each other and started to strike the shells on each other's body. This was a trapping and boxing method hidden in a dance. They would hit shells in their hands and then on the body, taking turns as they developed parry and strike combinations and keeping the beat going.

Another dance had a funny section where the couples were facing each other. The boys all would step forward and go to kiss the girls on the cheek...but the girls would use a triangular evasion step and elbow shield (which was made to look "cute" by the performers, like brushing the hair) to get out of the way. Then they would both step back to their starting positions, and the boy would try to kiss her on the other cheek, only to have her slip away with the same evasion and counter to the other side. This was "Angle 1 and Angle 2 Defense Against Kissing!"

Part II
The Legend of a Bear who became a Tikling bird!
Flash forward several years from that night... I'm teaching Arnis to a small but dedicated group in Buffalo. These guys all came from different arts, so it was like a Kung Fu movie at times with the good-natured rivalry between them and between their styles ("You dare insult [Karate / Kung Fu / Judo, etc.], then you'll have to fight me!")

This particular night I am teaching the tinikling to them at the end of class. One of the students, Ed, was Filipino, and knew the tininkling from when he was a kid. The guys were "skeptical" to put it mildly. We got started and one by one the students worked their way through, until only one of them remained...Daryl the Bear!

Daryl was just about 330 lbs. with wrists so large most people couldn't reach around them with using both hands. He was a doorman at bars and strip-clubs in Buffalo and Fort Erie, and the girls all called him "the bear" too...well, not really...they all called him "teddy" and we knew this.

(We also knew he would murder us in our sleep if we ever called him "teddy"; so "bear" was as close as we could come to saying "that word" without saying it.)

In any case, he had been staring at the clacking poles with ever widening eyes and a clearly growing sense of apprehension. "Uh, do I have to do this?" he asked halfheartedly.

"Would you do it for a Scoobie Snack?" asked Ace, producing a cigarette.

"I'll about need it afterwards." said the Bear, as he started to dance...

I don't know quite what happened next. It might have been something about the heaving 330 pounds of stomping bear-bulk on a gymnastics floor, it might have been something about the look of serious determination on his face. It might have been the way he had his tongue stuck out sideways between his teeth...I don't know.

It was scary though, and we reacted as frightened men do...we fell down laughing.

But now the Bear was riled. "Well, pish-posh on you, fie and a pox*" he said. (Not his actual words, but you get the drift, right?)

Yes, the Bear was mad...but what he did next shocked me.

A few months later the boys were ready for their first level test. On it, among other things, was the tinikling. Just like learning how to count in Tagalog and knowing certain terms, I felt it was important to pass part of the culture on too.

The boys worked through their other requirements. Kicks, strikes, trapping, flow-drills, single stick, double stick, knife, anos (forms) and so on. As we got towards the end I wanted to give them a little break so I asked "Do you want to do tinikling next or go right to the sparring?"

"Tinikling!" said the Bear.

We laughed, but set up the poles, and like the last time people started to go through the steps. Unlike last time, since they were now tired, people did a little worse than the last time they had done this. Daryl just stared at the poles, seemingly transfixed by the rhythm. 1-2-3, 1-2-3, 1-2-3.

Then his turn came, and what we saw amazed us!

As Daryl started into the tinikling, there were no "thundering hoof beats" on the floor. He moved nimbly and quickly. His balance was low but mobile so he didn't waste time in making his steps. They were not quicker than the other people's, but the timing and accuracy of weight shifting and stepping was better.

The Bear had been practicing!

And you know what? It showed!

He did a few fancy spins through and back, taking time on the outside to reset himself to the rhythm if need be, but he kept moving in time so it looked like he "meant to do it."

Then he stopped and said "OK...NOW let's do the sparring."

The Bear was mighty that night, and as we celebrated over many a drink later on I asked him how he had trained the tinikling. He told us he had been pissed-off that night so he decided to learn it. I guess when his stripper friends heard he was learning "some dance" they thought that was funny so they encouraged him, "Oh, show it to me!"

How could he resist?

That, and he basically just wanted to make us all "shut the hell up."

But somewhere in the distance we heard the tikling bird laughing...
430  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread on: March 07, 2007, 02:16:46 PM
Whats up with Vera?  Sometime ago I read he was debating on leaving the UFC.
431  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Amazing Artwork on: March 06, 2007, 07:59:53 PM
Digital Art..

Speed painting with photoshop
432  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / --Storm Virus Showcases Failure of Anti Virus Technology on: March 06, 2007, 05:13:38 PM
 --Storm Virus Showcases Failure of Anti Virus Technology
(5 March 2007)
By using more than 54,000 slightly different variants, the storm worm Trojan horse successfully used small changes to evade most anti virus products.  This is a technique now used by most current and relevant malware.  It demonstrates the futility of counting on anti virus software for protection.

Stormy weather for malware defenses
Robert Lemos, SecurityFocus 2007-03-05

When the Storm Worm swept through the Internet in mid-January, the program's writers took a brute force approach to evading antivirus defenses: They created a massive number of slightly different copies of the program and released them all at the same time.


“ Signatures are still needed but the amount of malware that is being produced and the speed with which it changes means that you need a lot of researchers. ”

Alex Shipp, security researcher, MessageLabs On January 18, the day the misnamed program--a Trojan horse, not a worm--first appeared, more than 350 different variants were released, according to report penned by security firm CommTouch Software. Four days later, the number of slightly-different versions jumped to more than 7,300. By the end of January, more than 54,000 variants had hit the Internet, the report (PDF) stated, each one spammed out by computers previously compromised by the program.

"Virus writers' goals have changed," Amir Lev, CEO of CommTouch, said in an e-mail interview with SecurityFocus. "They are doing 'good' business now. They do not focus on finding vulnerabilities in Microsoft and other products, they look for 'vulnerabilities' (in) the AV (antivirus) systems."

The technique is effective. While antivirus program's pattern recognition algorithms, frequently referred to as heuristics, may have stopped a large fraction of the variants, creating signatures to catch all the versions takes time. Response to a new variant--including developing, testing and distributing a signatures--takes hours at a minimum. Responding to thousands can take much longer.

During a January interview, one McAfee researcher underscored the headaches caused by the Storm Worm.

"Every day, it has been a new set of subject lines and new tactics to get people to open these," Allysa Myers, virus research engineer for security software maker McAfee, said in an interview with SecurityFocus. "They have had mass seedings of new variants every day this week."

The program highlights a number of changes in the techniques used by criminal Internet groups. The Storm Worm spreads in fairly large, but controlled, bursts of e-mail through previously compromised computers. Each burst typically sends out a custom variant, trying to infect systems before the user updates their antivirus definitions. The program compromises systems by luring their users into opening the attachments of messages with subject lines regarding current news events, including violent storms in Europe--a characteristic that led to the program's naming.

While some other programs have used a similar tactics, the Storm Worm's focus on propagation through sheer permutation carries the trend to a new level. The technique exploits a weakness, not in the software, but in the system. Analyzing malicious code requires, for the most part, human researchers, and the coders hope to overwhelm the human component long enough to compromise as many systems as needed.

"Signatures are still needed but the amount of malware that is being produced and the speed with which it changes means that you need a lot of researchers," said Alex Shipp, a researcher for e-mail security provider MessageLabs.

Other firms have witnessed the trend first hand. In 2006, antivirus firm Kaspersky Lab added 80,000 virus-pattern records to its product, roughly doubling the number added in 2005, said Eugene Kaspersky, the co-founder and head of research and development for antivirus firm.

"This is a competition where the antivirus companies, I fear, are not in a good position," Kaspersky said.

The Storm Worm is all about creating massive networks of compromised computers that can be controlled by a single group or individual. The networks, known as bot nets, don't need to be large to be useful. A bot net of several thousand computers is more than enough to mount a severe denial-of-service attack or send out a digital deluge of stock spam--common uses for the networks--and, of course, send out more copies of the Trojan horse. (This aspect of the Storm Worm is the subject of the first part of this two-part series.)

"The guys are very aggressive with the variants, and that has defeated the more simplistic AV engines out there," said Jose Nazario, senior security researcher for Arbor Networks.

The Storm Worm is likely responsible for creating a bot net that contains more than 20,000 computers and perhaps as many as 100,000, Nazario said. Other evidence appears to indicate that there is more than one Storm Worm-related bot net.

The spread of the Storm Worm has forced antivirus firms to create better defenses to automatically block such threats, rather than depend on simple heuristics or signatures.

Unlike previous malicious code, such as mass-mailing computer viruses, the Storm Worm is not a program that spreads aggressively on its own. Rather, the Trojan horse awaits orders from a central command post to send out the next round of variants. The control has made the program, if not stealthy, then more difficult to stop. The bursts of new variants make a quick response even more important, and the fact that the variants do not exploit a single vulnerability, but users' trust, make them more difficult to stop.

"Vulnerability-based exploits only require a single, or at most a few, signatures," said Vince Hwang, group product manager for security response at Symantec, the owner of SecurityFocus. "The ones that rely on user interaction are definitely a challenge. It is all social engineering."

Other attacks, known as targeted Trojan horses, exploit a related issue to dodge antivirus defenses. By sending out malicious code to an extremely small number of victims--often fewer than 10 specific individuals--the malicious software attempts to sneak under defenders' radar. Underscoring the less-is-more tactic, programs--such as the Storm Worm and targeted Trojan horses--have not made the monthly top-10 lists of security firms' most pervasive threats. On MessageLabs latest top-10 list, for example, Netsky, MyDoom, and Bagle--viruses that are almost two years old--command six of the 10 slots.

For both variant-heavy threats such as the Storm Worm and sneaky targeted Trojan horses, blocking the threat immediately requires technology that does not need to know about the attack, or its pattern, beforehand. And self-propagation, the hallmark of computer viruses, is no longer an adequate indicator of bad behavior.

"For over a year now, viruses are not viruses," said CommTouch's Lev. "There are no more epidemics. Instead, they (spammers) use bot nets to send spam and then more malware."

Perhaps the most significant technology under development at various antivirus firms is typically referred to as behavior blocking. The technique identifies malicious programs by what actions they take, not by the code that makes them up.

The defense is actually a blast from the past. Antivirus firms and early developers played with the approach more than a decade ago. Gatekeeper for the Mac, created by Chris Johnson in the early 1990s, detected malicious code by noting suspicious actions. Personal firewalls attempt to block malicious programs from communicating out to the Internet.

Several antivirus firms--including Sophos, F-Secure and Grisoft--are building next-generation behavior analysis into their products. The modern technique creates a virtual sandbox for any program run on the system and monitors the behavior of the program until a determination can be made of whether the code is malicious or benign.

"If you are seeing something that is obviously poking its head into things that it shouldn't be, then we can shut it down," said Larry Bridwell, vice president of communications for antivirus firm Grisoft.

Unlike the simple techniques in the past that generally decided whether a program was malicious based on a single action, the latest techniques allow a program to run longer, reducing false alarms.

"What did it take for behavioral analysis to work?" said Bridwell. "Big processors, big memory and big bandwidth. And we didn't have that before."

While viruses make up a smaller portion of threats each year--about 10 percent of what Grisoft sees are viruses, said Bridwell--don't expect the term "antivirus" to go away. Grisoft attempted to sell a product as anti-malware and consumers panned it on the name alone.

"To some analysts, some press and every user, it doesn't matter what the program does, it's antivirus," Bridwell said.

433  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread on: March 05, 2007, 04:12:10 PM
Good point about the positioning, Randy literally man handled Tim a couple of times, I mean he literally threw Tim on the ground a couple of times.
I think Tim as a person is a cool person, I saw him in walking in Waikiki once and he was really cool to the people that approached him, I just thought his matches werent as exciting as they could have been.  Imagine the respect he would be getting if he did manage to stop RC, Ill have to watch again but I dont recall TS using his jab or his "hunchedback" boxing shell.  I wonder if there will be a rematch and how will Tim fight a second time. Will Randy use the same head movement?
434  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Grandfathers Speak Vol. 2: Sonny Umpad on: March 05, 2007, 04:04:08 PM
I love the part where Sonny is in the living room and the clips go back and forth between Sonny and Ilustrisimo and Sonny does that neat knee bump while the other guy is off balance and sends him flying.
435  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread on: March 05, 2007, 03:05:11 PM
I dont believe there are any rules that prohibit it... but perhaps he was just be "cautious" or maybe the heel kick could be misconstrued as a stomp?

1.   Butting with the head.
2.   Eye gouging of any kind.
3.   Biting.
4.   Hair pulling.
5.   Fish hooking.
6.   Groin attacks of any kind.
7.   Putting a finger into any orifice or into any cut or laceration on an opponent.
8.   Small joint manipulation.
9.   Striking to the spine or the back of the head.
10. Striking downward using the point of the elbow.
11. Throat strikes of any kind, including, without limitation, grabbing the trachea.
12. Clawing, pinching or twisting the flesh.
13. Grabbing the clavicle.
14. Kicking the head of a grounded opponent.
15. Kneeing the head of a grounded opponent.
16. Stomping a grounded opponent.
17. Kicking to the kidney with the heel.
18. Spiking an opponent to the canvas on his head or neck.
19. Throwing an opponent out of the ring or fenced area.
20. Holding the shorts or gloves of an opponent.
21. Spitting at an opponent.
22. Engaging in an unsportsmanlike conduct that causes an injury to an opponent.
23. Holding the ropes or the fence.
24. Using abusive language in the ring or fenced area.
25. Attacking an opponent on or during the break.
26. Attacking an opponent who is under the care of the referee.
27. Attacking an opponent after the bell has sounded the end of the period of unarmed combat.
28. Flagrantly disregarding the instructions of the referee.
29. Timidity, including, without limitation, avoiding contact with an opponent, intentionally or consistently dropping the mouthpiece or faking an injury.
30. Interference by the corner.
31. Throwing in the towel during competition.

Ways To Win:    
1. Submission by:
           Physical tap out.
           Verbal tap out.
2. Technical knockout by the referee stopping the contest.
3. Decision via the scorecards, including:
           Unanimous decision.
           Split decision.
           Majority decision.
           Draw, including:
                  Unanimous draw.
                  Majority draw.
                  Split draw.
4. Technical decision.
5. Technical draw.
6. Disqualification.
7. Forfeit.
8. No contest.
436  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Download and Burn Movies.... Legallly on: March 04, 2007, 10:41:14 PM

Download And Burn Movies Available Soon
Posted by Zonk on Sunday March 04, @06:15AM
from the oh-css-is-there-nothing-you-can't-do dept.
    An anonymous reader writes
"According to an article from PC World, a source close to the CSS Managed Recording forum said that technology which allows movies to be downloaded and burned to blank DVDs, using the same content-protection system as commercial discs, received official approval on Thursday. 'The technology will require discs that are slightly different from the conventional DVD-Rs found in shops today. The burned discs will be compatible with the vast majority of consumer DVD players ... Despite Thursday's approval, services that allow consumers to legally download and burn movies in their own homes are unlikely to appear quickly. The DVD CCA said it will be initially restricted to professional uses. These might include kiosks in retail stores where consumers can purchase and burn discs in a controlled environment.'"
437  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA Thread on: March 04, 2007, 02:31:36 AM
Wow, Randy Couture dominated Tim Sylvia, great head movement. 
Im sure Tim Sylvia thought his reach would be enough....

Too bad May 5th is so far away... cant wait till Mayweather and De La Hoya meet but thats another thread..
438  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Calling all female fighters on: March 02, 2007, 07:45:25 PM
Yep, it will defiinitely be interesting once she her conditioning gets better and her skills start improving.
439  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Tippy-tappy drills-- threat or menace? on: March 01, 2007, 04:27:57 PM
Would this be an example of the pendulum footwork that you described?
440  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Calling all female fighters on: March 01, 2007, 03:25:14 PM
A close friend of mine just started training with us on Saturdays.  I dont know if she'll be ready in June but we have talked about her attending a gathering.

She used to Fence and is looking at getting back into fencing... hopefully she will introduce herself here.
441  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Internet and related technology on: March 01, 2007, 01:14:45 PM
I thought this was interesting..

Reverse hacker wins $4.3M in suit against Sandia Labs
Shawn Carpenter used his own hacking techniques to probe outside breach

February 14, 2007 (Computerworld) -- Shawn Carpenter, a network security analyst at Sandia National Laboratories who was fired in January 2005 for his independent probe of a network security breach at the agency, has been awarded $4.3 million by a New Mexico jury for wrongful termination.

In announcing its decision yesterday, the jury also awarded Carpenter $350,000 for emotional distress and more than $36,000 for lost wages, benefits and other costs.

A spokesman from Sandia expressed "disappointment" with the verdict and said the lab will consider whether to appeal it or not.

The highly publicized case involved Carpenter's investigation of a network break-in at Sandia in 2003.

After initially telling superiors about the incident, Carpenter launched an independent, months-long investigation during which he used hacking techniques of his own to eventually trace the attacks back to a Chinese cyberespionage group. The group, called Titan Rain by federal authorities, was believed responsible for carrying out similar attacks against a large number of U.S. government, military and commercial interests.

Carpenter shared information from his investigation, initially with individuals at the Army Counterintelligence Group and later with the FBI.

When Sandia officials learned of the investigation and of his sharing information with the FBI and other outside agencies, they terminated him for inappropriate use of confidential information that he had gathered in his role as a network security manager for the laboratory.

Yesterday's verdict is a "vindication of his decision to do the right thing and turn over the information he obtained to the proper federal authorities in the interests of national security," said Philip Davis, one of the attorneys who represented Carpenter in his lawsuit.

The verdict highlights "the jury's belief that Shawn Carpenter is a patriot and did what he did to protect the national interest," Davis said. "That was more important than Sandia's own interest in taking care of itself."

The size of the punitive damages at $4.3 million is more than twice of what was sought and sends an "unambiguous message that national security comes first," he said.

Ira Winkler, an independent security consultant and author of Spies Among Us who has also written for Computerworld, said the verdict was "incredibly justified. Frankly, I think people [at Sandia] should go to jail" for ignoring some of the security issues that Carpenter was trying to highlight with his investigation.

After Carpenter's termination, the investigations into the Titan Rain group appear to have gone nowhere, said Winkler, a former National Security Agency analyst. He added that while the Carpenter award is welcome, it would ultimately be paid with taxpayer money.

"This whole thing is costing them nothing," Winkler said. "Whatever legal fees they are running up is just being passed back to the U.S. government," he said.


Some other interesting sites:
442  Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities / Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Inspirational thoughts on: March 01, 2007, 12:27:22 PM
Ive always liked this one and I think it applies to more things than just love.

The Most Beautiful Heart

One day a young man was standing in the middle of the town proclaiming that he had the most beautiful heart in the whole valley. A large crowd gathered and they all admired his heart, for it was perfect. There was not a mark or flaw in it. Yes, they all agreed, it truly was the most beautiful heart they had ever seen. The young man was very proud and boasted even more loudly about his beautiful heart.

Suddenly, an old man appeared at the front of the crowd and said, "Why, your heart is not nearly as beautiful as mine."

The crowd and the young man looked at the old man's heart. It was beating strongly but was full of scars. It had places where peices had been removed and other peices put in but didn't quite fit right so that there were several jagged edges. In fact, in some places there were deep gouges where whole peices were missing.

The people stared. "How can he say that his heart is more beautiful?" they thought.

The young man looked at the old man's heart and saw it's state and laughed. "You must be joking." he said. "Compare your heart with mine. Mine is perfect and yours is a mess of scars and tears." "Yes," said the old man, "Yours is perfect looking but I would never trade with you. You see, every scar represents a person to whom I have given my love. I tear out a piece of my heart and give it to them. Often they give me a piece of their heart which fits into the empty places in my heart, but the pieces aren't exact. That is why I have some rough edges which I cherish because they remind me of the love we shared. Sometimes I have given pieces of my heart away and the other person hasn't returned a piece of his heart to me. Those are the empty gouges. Giving love is taking a risk. Although these gouges are painful they stay open reminding me of the love I have for these people, too. I hope someday they may return and fill the spaces I have waiting. So, now do you see where the true beauty lies?"

The young man stood silently with tears running down his cheeks. He walked up to the old man, reached into his perfect young and beautiful heart and ripped a piece out. He offered it to the old man with trembling hands. The old man took his offering and placed it in his heart. Then he took a piece from his old scarred heart and placed it in the wound in the young man's heart. It fit. How sad it must be to go through life with an unscarred heart.
443  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Tippy-tappy drills-- threat or menace? on: February 27, 2007, 08:03:06 PM
Maija: the best option IMHO is to learn how to set your opponent up to gain the advantage.

Thats a great point Maija after thinking and reviewing some of our recent sparring matches Ive realized that I haven't been utilizing timing like I have done when I first begun training with DogZilla and the guys (and now a "girl"). I certainly want to try the pendulum concept out that you have described.  After watching several DBMA DVDs I know Guro Crafty and company cover various ways to set up your shots as well.

Guro Crafty:  I will add that many people also do plenty of pressure testing, but may lack a broad vocabulary with which to answer the questions presented.
I have to confess I am one of those but just like any other skill it takes practice.....
444  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Boxing Thread on: February 22, 2007, 09:10:49 PM
Oscar and Floyd have been on the road promoting their fight, things are starting to heat up..

These articles can be found at

Day 2: Oscar-Floyd Tour!

February 22, 2007

By Gary "Digital" Williams & Julian Burgower
Photos: Mike Greenhill

Washington DC's Historic Union Station is known as the gateway into the nation's capital, where railway tracks intersect one another in connecting thousands of people every day transiting through and into the city. It the most visited site in Washington, impressive considering that the city hosts such other national hallmarks as the White House, Vietnam Memorial and the Washington Monument.

An estimated 3,000 boxing fans were on hand Wednesday at the station, hoping to catch an eye of two of today's most celebrated warriors -- Oscar De La Hoya and Floyd Mayweather. In promotion of their May 5th showdown, fans were able today to witness the world of sport imitating the 100-year old landmark in which the traveling press conference was held. Not unlike the endless tracks and glorious archways that Union Station has become to be known, they found two fighters intersecting together in their illustrious careers and looking to walk through the gateway of pugilistic immortality.

Washington, DC was number three on a list of 11 cities to be covered in the much anticipated bout, which is being forecasted to be the highest grossing boxing event in history. HBO's Mark Taffett, impressed with the DC turnout, stated that it is so far the largest crowd of fans since the tour began in New York on February 20th.

As in the previous two press conferences in New York and Philadelphia, Mayweather was introduced first, playing to the pro-"Pretty Boy" crowd as he posed for pictures, signed autographs and stripped down shirtless as his diamond encrusted jewelry sparkled under the lights.

"I know that Oscar will bring his A-game and of course I always bring my A-game- that's why I never turn up on the short end of the stick," declared the always-confident Mayweather. Mayweather continued to reaffirm that the bout was to be his last in a hall of fame career, although many have speculated that the announcement is a promotional ploy or that he will not be able, as many before him, to walk away from the sport at such a high level. "I don't have nothing else to prove to nobody else in the sport. As long as my mother is happy and as long as my children are happy, then I'm happy. I came into this sport to be a legend. On May 5th I'm going to put the official stamp on my legacy."

Mayweather declared that, although he respected De La Hoya's accomplishments as a fighter, De La Hoya was hand fed the right opponents at the right time, a product of careful matchmaking. "He beat Camacho, but he was over the hill. He beat Pernell Whitaker, but he was over the hill. He beat Julio Cesar Chavez, but he was over the hill." No mention though of Oscar's wins over a prime Ike Quartey and disputed decision loss to Felix Trinidad. "Pretty Boy" also guaranteed that he would punish De La Hoya in a toe-to-toe affair and force him into submission. "You can fall on your face; you can fall on your ass; you can fall on your back, or," as Mayweather waved a souvenir flag in front of "The Golden Boy's" face, "you can go like this! I'm known for making them quit!"

The Mayweather camp also chided De La Hoya for being stopped by Bernard Hopkins, current light heavyweight champion and president of Golden Boy East, insinuating that De La Hoya and Hopkins' business relationship after their middleweight championship bout put a question mark on the result as something of a shady nature.

De La Hoya was introduced next, surprisingly to a mixture of both cheers and boos. Much more subdued in his manner, De La Hoya, after thanking his fans and supporters in Washington, also praised Mayweather as a fighter, but pleaded with him to continue his antics. "I'm extremely, extremely motivated for this fight. All the trash talking that you've been doing, that's fine and dandy. He can trash talk all he wants, but come May 5th…he will go down."

As De La Hoya spoke, Mayweather played to the gregarious crowd by imitating Oscar's stand-up fighting style and standing in front of him while he was speaking to use the dais to sign an autograph. "He has no idea what he's getting himself into," seethed De La Hoya. "No idea! You can talk and talk and talk and talk. Just keep going…I urge you to keep going. Keep going!"

De La Hoya concluded with a spirited message in Spanish, which is loosely translated as, "To my people, a special thanks. Thank you for your support. On May 5th, we will find out who is going to win -- the clown or me."

A complete list of cities, locations and schedule for the remaining portion of the De La Hoya- Mayweather Tour can be found here

Mayweather Mad in Motown!

February 22, 2007


by Andre Courtemanche

Although they were in his home state of Michigan, "Pretty Boy" Floyd Mayweather was in no mood to play gracious host to Oscar De La Hoya at today's press conference, at Cobo Hall in Detroit, to hype the upcoming bout between the two enormously popular fighters.


In front of a large crowd of evenly divided fans, Mayweather sprayed a torrent of threats and insults as a surprisingly restrained De La Hoya kept his cool, smiling and laughing.


The two superstars will meet for De La Hoya's WBC Light Middleweight title on Saturday, May 5, at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas and live on HBO PPV in a fight entitled "The World Awaits."


"It comes down to the Golden Boy against the Pretty Boy and Oscar makes a lot of mistakes," growled the aggressive Mayweather. "I love boxing and I do it well and you all know what I'm going to do to him. May 5, I'm going to bite that ass and he knows it."


With a large crowd of evenly divided supporters looking on, Mayweather, who openly professes his dislike for De La Hoya, continued "jumping on his nerves."


"37 opponents before him said what they would do to me and they all came up short. This is just number 38. He's going to come up short too. He can say whatever he wants to say, but the eyes tell it all. Look at his eyes. Step up to the plate, you bum. We both have fans, but more fans believe in me, that's why I'm the favorite."


Mayweather says he sees a victory over De La Hoya as the icing on a cake that will be presented to him many years from now. "This fight is about putting a stamp on my legacy. This fight is a box and beating him will put a stamp on the box and mail it to (the Boxing Hall of Fame in) Canastota, New York."


Exuding confidence, the four-division world champion claims his job will be easier than some think. "He's won a lot of titles, but all his opponents were hand-picked. With my dad in his corner, his chances were slim and none. Without my dad, Slim has left town. I just have to take my time. The game plan is to break him down, go to the body early. Make him miss and make him pay. I just need to go out and execute."
445  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Tippy-tappy drills-- threat or menace? on: February 21, 2007, 11:34:23 PM
That was a great response Dog Bryan.

I think the drills are great for developing coordination especially for those that are new to the FMA and yes I also realize that we should also teach them to hit and hit hard.  I may get into a little trouble about this but I like to think of them as "oh crap" drills as in something something that pulled out when something unexpected happens and as previously stated various people have various goals and you just cant force people in a direction they dont want to go in but you can open their eyes, guide them, give them the option and teach them the best you can.   
446  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Are there Knights? on: February 16, 2007, 06:08:56 PM
I think and I could be way off base but to me I think the question is how do the Dog Brothers approach building character and the reason I think is because of this statement.
The Dog Brothers is about as real as I think practice in the martial arts can get and that is admittedly based on an uninformed position of watching a few videos and reading things here on the forums

And then the question is posed

How do you approach the idea of character development?

So maybe the question is How do we as Dog Brothers and DBMA \ Martial Art practioners incorporate building character into our personal developement. Perhaps the Dog Brothers are lucky in that they attract those who already have developed good character or perhaps those with questionable character think twice before coming to a gathering and acting up, I dont really know (yet). I can only think that Guro Crafty and others i.e. DogZilla provide great examples by the way they live, teach the art and share knowledge.

447  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA on: February 15, 2007, 04:32:05 PM
Excellent, im calling the cable company to suscribe!   

I was over at and read that Kurt Angle might be throwing down in the ring / octogon sometime this year.. his contract with TNA allows him to fight in MMA BUT only if they (TNA) find it "good" for him.
448  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Grandfathers Speak Vol. 2: Sonny Umpad on: February 15, 2007, 01:13:56 PM
Excellent, Im looking forward to this as well.
449  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: MMA on: February 15, 2007, 01:08:59 PM
Anyone know if Showtime will replay? If they do I think Ill subscribe. I for one would like to watch the fight.

Any other good fights on the card?
450  DBMA Martial Arts Forum / Martial Arts Topics / Re: Boxing Thread on: February 13, 2007, 03:20:20 PM
Unfortunately I didnt find out about it until afterwards. 
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