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 on: August 15, 2017, 09:15:28 AM 
Started by G M - Last post by DougMacG
This was supposed to be a blockbuster.  Before I knew it was already out it has dropped to 18th in a field of disappointing movies

even though the left and the media (redundancy alert) promoted the hell out of it.

 on: August 15, 2017, 08:37:32 AM 
Started by Crafty_Dog - Last post by DougMacG
Missile technology "via black market"... (?)

The speed at which North Korea has ramped up its missile and nuclear defense programs within the last two years is reportedly due to purchases Kim Jong Un’s regime has made on a weapons black market linked to Ukraine and Russia, as the United States and the globe fret over a potential military conflict.

A new report released Monday by the International Institute for Strategic Studies explains the North has made “astounding strides” in missile development, and it could not have done so without a high-performance liquid-propellant engine, or LPE, provided by a “foreign source.”

 on: August 15, 2017, 08:24:10 AM 
Started by ccp - Last post by DougMacG
ccp:  "I thought Trump's initial response was appropriate.  He denounced bigotry and violence from both sides."

I wasn't following this over the weekend, and trying not to now, but his reaction seemed fine.  His opponents' reaction seemed predictable and then yesterday he uttered in the strongest terms everything they wanted him to say.  This wasn't about him and I can see why he didn't want to make it about him.  

Freedom of speech only becomes an issue when it is ugly speech.  Driving a car into a crowd isn't protected speech or acceptable to anyone.  It makes your own group look bad or draws attention to them already looking bad.  If stories that he threatened his mother with a knife are true, a serious crime, maybe the idea of prevention goes back to enforcing existing laws.

Meanwhile NK canceled its attack on the US (Guam).  Ho hum..

[Rick]  "There is little difference in concept between the two forces [Stalin and Hitler].  They just choose different groups against which to spew their hate."

Interesting that both of those evil forces chose the big, powerful government route, as does our left, while the conservative right, when it remembers its principles and direction, favors small government and individual freedom FOR ALL.  There is no such thing in my mind as a big government conservative.

The party of Lincoln who freed the slaves is the opposite of both the neo Nazis and militant white racists.  We oppose racial preferences and want immigrants here for their contribution and their common interest in our liberties, not as parasites, jihadists or to turn us into the place they came from.

VP Mike Pence:
"I will say I take issue with the fact that many in the national media spent more time criticizing the president’s words than they did criticizing those that perpetrated the violence to begin with."   "We should be putting the attention where it belongs, and that is on those extremist groups that need to be pushed out of the public debate entirely and discredited for the hate groups and dangerous fringe groups that they are."

 on: August 15, 2017, 06:41:28 AM 
Started by ccp - Last post by ccp
citing they were on the council for business reasons and don't play politics but by the very fact they are resigning now they are playing politics!:

I don't know.  I thought Trump's initial response was appropriate.  He denounced bigotry and violence from both sides.
We all know Obama only denounced it if it was whites and remained silent on bigotry and violence from others.
as noted in the above posts.

 on: August 15, 2017, 06:03:19 AM 
Started by ccp - Last post by rickn
We have seen this story in the past.  For example, Germany from 1917 to the mid 1920's.

Spain in the mid-1930's.

Unless people are willing to acknowledge that antifa and the nazis are equally evil, we will descend in the same manner as Germany and Spain.

I heard Hayes say the same thing.  And Krauthammer.  People forget that Stalin and Hitler were allies from August 1939 until June 1941.  They carved up Poland together.  There is little difference in concept between the two forces.  They just choose different groups against which to spew their hate.

 on: August 14, 2017, 08:49:02 PM 
Started by ccp - Last post by G M

August 14, 2017
The Rise of Identity Politics Gives Birth, Get This, to a White Identity Politics as Well

I think Identity Politics of all kinds are odious and poisonous to the individual -- if your value is your race or gender, well, you have branded yourself as someone of extraordinarily low value, haven't you?

But as John Sexton points out, you can't expect a culture to praise all sorts of Identity Politics -- flat-out racist groups and gender supremacists -- but say that one group doesn't get to play by the same rules.

Either it's all poisonous garbage, or it's all got something of merit to it.

I believe the former. But the media -- and the establishment right political class -- cannot continue with this incoherent claim that Identity Politics are permissible for e everyone except The One Group Which is Truly Odious and Cursed by God.

People will not accept that. No one will accept his subordination without a fight of some kind.

Tonight I watched Stephen Hayes accuse Mollie Hemingway of living in an "alternate reality" for pointing out, correctly, that we have -- and have had -- a serious problem with leftwing identity politics thugs for years, with an increasing tempo of violence. The most recent major event being the attempted assassination of a half-dozen Republican congressmen by a Bernie Sanders reporter.

This, Steven Hayes intoned, was an "alternate reality." There is no problem with leftist violence or tribalistic hate politics -- it's perfectly acceptable for them, and we should say nothing about it.

I guess you can play #FakeNews #PretendOpposition as long as a billionaire patron is paying your bills.

After he tires of his toy -- when he begins to realize he's paying for something with no influence or relevance -- who knows.

I guess it's on to CNN for Steve Hayes, then.

After the Scalise shooting -- which was like two months ago-- the media, including the #FakeNews #PretendConservatives, only seemed willing to talk about leftwing violence in an article equally condemning rightwing violence.

Now we have a situation of rightwing violence (and lots of antifa violence, too), but the #FakeConservatives now insist we can only talk about rightwing violence -- and cannot, as they themselves previously did, discuss right and left violence in context, as two things that reinforce each other.

Which is exactly the claim Rachel Maddow makes.

If the Weekly Standard now exists exclusively to parrot the claims made nightly on Rachel Maddow -- What is the point of you, exactly?

I think a lot of these shills have an Exit Strategy from the GOP planned, and I think it's time to hurry them to the door.

 on: August 14, 2017, 08:31:19 PM 
Started by ccp - Last post by rickn
Just pointing out that Trump's original tweets occurred before it was confirmed that a Nazi was behind the wheel of the car that killed and injured those people in Charlottesville, but that it occurred after video showed violent clashes between antifa thugs and Nazi thugs.  He then offered condolences to the family of the woman killed by the Nazi.  He then went silent for about 40 hours.  He then gave his speech earlier today specifically including white supremacists, Nazis and the KKK as among those groups espousing hate.

Both extremes got the riot they desired.  The fact that this time it was the Nazis who committed Saturday's most heinous crime does not excuse the acts of antifa earlier in the day.  A pox on them both.

 on: August 14, 2017, 05:09:26 PM 
Started by Crafty_Dog - Last post by ccp
since Obama.  How does Immigration explain this?  No will to increase resources to get and keep illegals out:

 on: August 14, 2017, 04:51:57 PM 
Started by Crafty_Dog - Last post by DougMacG
Who knew??

A new Tax Foundation report finds that the 1.5-cent-an-ounce levy that took effect in January is hurting low-income workers and producing less revenue than promised, is helping beer sales.

It's okay to hurt low income workers, right, I mean if you're a well-intended, leftist-run city?

Tax it and get less of it, unexpectedly, that doesn't apply to capital, investment, employment, labor or private sector growth, does it?

 on: August 14, 2017, 04:40:28 PM 
Started by Crafty_Dog - Last post by DougMacG
Why did the Obama administration need to know the identities of the Trump officials?  Why was Samantha Power, wife of Cass Sunstein, Ambassador to the United Nations the point person on that?

[Why was Susan Rice, fully removed from the situation, the point person on Benghazi?]

Oddly both were UN Ambassadors.

Who will write the definitive account of the Obama administration once all the failures and scandals are fully known?

"...if high-level members of the Obama Administration were abusing intelligence to spy on Trump people during that same campaign, the American people deserve answers on that..."

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