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 71 
 on: May 26, 2017, 01:35:54 PM 
Started by DougMacG - Last post by G M
Perhaps it's time to stop surrendering, and to quote a former president, "Punish our enemies".


"Holding Republicans to a different standard than Democrats is ..."

A fact.  Something Republicans surrendered to long ago.

Facts are still unknown here, but the alleged behavior (unfairly) reflects badly on all Republicans.

I'm glad he won, but if convicted of a serious crime, maybe Montana Republicans can nominate someone else next year.
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I like ccp's question:

"Why is a ***UK***  newspaper! guy running around Montana getting up in the face of a Republican candidate?"

As is widely known, 'reporters' try to make news, not report news.  That sounds even worse when it is a foreign owned newspaper, trying to change the outcome rather than observe and report.  Since this event may have helped the Republican, maybe Democrats will scream for a congressional inquiry and independent prosecutor to look into British interference into our elections!

 72 
 on: May 26, 2017, 01:34:05 PM 
Started by Crafty_Dog - Last post by Crafty_Dog
Good thing we have Big Dog following this closely and keeping us abreast of the dangers.

BD, your thoughts on what can/should be done?

 73 
 on: May 26, 2017, 01:31:46 PM 
Started by DougMacG - Last post by DougMacG
"Holding Republicans to a different standard than Democrats is ..."

A fact.  Something Republicans surrendered to long ago.

Facts are still unknown here, but the alleged behavior (unfairly) reflects badly on all Republicans.

I'm glad he won, but if convicted of a serious crime, maybe Montana Republicans can nominate someone else next year.
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I like ccp's question:

"Why is a ***UK***  newspaper! guy running around Montana getting up in the face of a Republican candidate?"

As is widely known, 'reporters' try to make news, not report news.  That sounds even worse when it is a foreign owned newspaper, trying to change the outcome rather than observe and report.  Since this event may have helped the Republican, maybe Democrats will scream for a congressional inquiry and independent prosecutor to look into British interference into our elections!

 74 
 on: May 26, 2017, 01:30:09 PM 
Started by Crafty_Dog - Last post by Crafty_Dog
http://circa.com/politics/declassified-memos-show-fbi-illegally-shared-spy-data-on-americans-with-private-parties

 75 
 on: May 26, 2017, 01:29:02 PM 
Started by Crafty_Dog - Last post by Crafty_Dog
 shocked shocked shocked angry angry angry angry angry angry

 76 
 on: May 26, 2017, 01:25:55 PM 
Started by Crafty_Dog - Last post by G M
"China is an export based economy.  Their house of cards collapses if exports to the US collapses IMHO.  The regime is held up by power and by their public's perception of security and prosperity.  Collapse the economy and all they have left is military power that could conceivably turn against failed leadership."

Exactly.

China spends more on "internal security" than defense. Actually, China doesn't have a military, intelligence service or law enforcement agencies. Those belong to the Chinese Communist Party. I hesitate to mention this, as I don't want to give the dems any ideas.

 77 
 on: May 26, 2017, 01:20:43 PM 
Started by Crafty_Dog - Last post by DougMacG
"...What would you have Trump do?  Fg with them over the SCC while asking for their help with the Norks is a tough hand to play."

Agreed, though he also needs to f with them to show he's not afraid to act alone.  Besides South China Sea and NK, there are  many more pieces in that puzzle not counting the unknown unknowns. 

The perception of Trump having a screw or two loose actually helps in negotiations with this kind of rival.  George H.W. and George W weren't going to screw with them, Clinton and Obama wouldn't even want to but Trump might. 

China is an export based economy.  Their house of cards collapses if exports to the US collapses IMHO.  The regime is held up by power and by their public's perception of security and prosperity.  Collapse the economy and all they have left is military power that could conceivably turn against failed leadership.

Trump is a buy-American, imports-are-all-bad politician.  He's wrong but that isn't the point.

It could be that China has a real fear of what Trump could do to them without firing a shot.  That's a nice negotiating position to be in; get what you want by agreeing to do nothing.

I understand the game China has played to their advantage regarding NK and the US in a past tense sense.  They have played us and played the NK threat like a fiddle going back to Madeline halfbright and however many decades it has been.  I also believe NK has been a thorn in Chinese side and an unnecessary cost to them.  NK poses risks to them too.

Jump forward to 2017 and the Denny S theory of backyards.  Maybe China's thinking is changing on NK.  They don't need an American war in their backyard.  They don't need Japan accelerating their militarization and testing their own nuclear warheads.  NK poses a direct threat to Japan. Same for Taiwan and South Korea. 

Trump has publicly (and privately to China?) threatened to take care of the NK threat without Chinese help if he cannot get their help.  The collapse of his predecessor's foreign policy was symbolized by the drawing of red lines drawn and crossed without consequence.  Don't be that guy.

He also publicly bragged that he delegates military details to people like Gen Mattis who no doubt already has access to more than one plan, ready to go on NK when he gets the word.

In the context of Ya's post and the Stratfor report of public alert warnings sounded in Guam, maybe Trump already has Xi on board for some kind of operation that makes both countries look good and the world a little safer. 

More likely, advisers worried about safety in the short run will talk him out of it.

 78 
 on: May 26, 2017, 12:45:25 PM 
Started by DougMacG - Last post by G M
Punching reporters is a no no.  Period.


http://ace.mu.nu/archives/369943.php

May 26, 2017
Here Is Why We Shouldn't Care That Greg Gianforte Won The Special Election In Montana
Remember Congressman Etheridge? Probably not, because the Democrat Party protects its own.

Check the video below the fold for Etheridge's violent reaction to some students asking him questions.

But the Dems were cool with that behavior, because they allowed him to run for the governorship in the Democratic primary, and then after he lost gave him a job in government! He is the executive director of the North Carolina branch of the U.S. Farm Service Agency, whatever the hell that is.

So lets us not get too exercised by Gianforte's behavior. Holding Republicans to a different standard than Democrats is exactly the game plan of the Democrat Party, and it works very, very well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oqIP9yagkQ

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 79 
 on: May 26, 2017, 12:37:31 PM 
Started by DougMacG - Last post by Crafty_Dog
Punching reporters is a no no.  Period.

 80 
 on: May 26, 2017, 12:35:06 PM 
Started by Crafty_Dog - Last post by Crafty_Dog
My understanding (supported by Scott Grannis btw) is that China it has been some years since China has been exporting unemployment via its exchange rate.  Thus, a good deal by Donald to get something for the nothing of a no longer valid accusation.

Also, note that the US navy sailed close by one of the fake islands yesterday.

OBAMA left a very bad situation with regards to the South China Sea-- as we here have covered closely for several years now and left an even worse situation with the Norks.   What would you have Trump do?  Fg with them over the SCC while asking for their help with the Norks is a tough hand to play.

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