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 on: July 26, 2015, 10:13:05 PM 
Started by DougMacG - Last post by DougMacG

Ah, this is how you are wrong, Doug. These people aren't trading in baby body parts, it is tissue from products of Conception.
Because science!

Gallows humor but funny to see them squirm.

Fetus isn't a born baby obviously, it is the "little one".  Yes, one day after conception it doesn't look like a baby and one day before birth it does.

"a ten to twelve week fetus looks nothing like a term baby—and is medically incorrect."

That being their view, maybe we can all agree to ban abortion after 10-12 weeks rather than growing them out for harvesting and profits.

How about this, try telling a late term pregnant woman with a knife in her hand that it's not a baby in there and see who gets hurt.

 on: July 26, 2015, 09:55:16 PM 
Started by DougMacG - Last post by G M
As we have a serious problem with hunger in this country, despite the awesome economiç recovery of the last 6.5 years, can we use the "products of conception" to make food for the poor?

If not, why not?

 on: July 26, 2015, 09:06:34 PM 
Started by DougMacG - Last post by G M

Ah, this is how you are wrong, Doug. These people aren't trading in baby body parts, it is tissue from products of Conception.

Because science!

 on: July 26, 2015, 08:10:03 PM 
Started by buzwardo - Last post by Body-by-Guinness
Over the years nefarious Big Oil funded denier efforts are often blamed as the reason AGW panic mongering has foundered where the general public is concerned, and indeed tangential relationships between some oil company organ and who paid for some researchers lunch and the like are often cited as the ad hominem reason this or that piece of research should be discounted, wholly ignoring the fact that Big Oil contributes directly to AGW research and those results are considered beyond reproach.

And when the undeniable links between AGW enchanted lawmakers citing stories of doom as reasons to increasingly encroach on American freedom (like your low flow toilet? Looking for a 100 watt lightbulb?) and those who ballyhoo the grim climate scenarios many lawmakers embrace--and provide one sided research funding for--as they ever expand the turf they legislate for putative environmental reasons are pointed out AGW adherents cry "conspiracy theory" despite the fact doomsayers and legislators clearly work hand in glove.

Well here's a little tale making the rounds about Big Oil funded hit squads engineering lighting strikes and such that take out AGW researchers. No doubt the panic mongers will fall all over themselves, uh, denying these conspiracy theories and making it clear they don't support these Big Oil libels, though I'd expect the sky is falling scenarios they keep hawking to actually occur first.

 on: July 26, 2015, 05:09:22 PM 
Started by DougMacG - Last post by DougMacG
We've been through this before and I'm surprised and disappointed that Rachel doesn't jump back in with the topic front and center.

The fetus (Latin for 'little one') is:

a) alive

b). of the human species

...and a crucial point so often ignored by abortion advocates and apologists,

c). the fetus has UNIQUE DNA, distinct from the mother (and from the father and from everyone else.)

Choice and women's rights are great cliches and misnomers, but whose choice is it?  The mother has separate DNA, is very directly related, is in close proximity, is presumed to be looking out for the best interests of her baby, and has complete control only when she acting in that role and capacity.  She has no more right to kill her daughter than Adrian Peterson has to whoop his son.

It is a separate and distinct being.  Make no mistake, the science is settled.

Liberals including our own express more concern for the comfort of a chicken raised in captivity for food than they do for the most vulnerable and innocent human life.

On Mother's Day, we are thankful for all the things she did for us.  Among them, what was more valuable and irreplaceable than struggling through a successful pregnancy and giving live birth?

Was there a life inside the mother before live birth or not?  Science knows; certain political factions deny.  But then they get caught selling live, functional organs and tissue from that live, human, distinct being.

These body parts are used for research and someday will save lives... ?

If stranded on an island with no food, and help is too far away, would you kill, cut up and eat your friends?  Worst case, I hope you would say, only if you had to.  98% of these killings are out of convenience, not due to the mainvreasons they argue, rape, incest or a threat to the mother's life.

Do the research some other way.

 on: July 26, 2015, 03:50:29 PM 
Started by Crafty_Dog - Last post by G M
Ah, the good old days, when we were told that Iran was a rational actor and Obama had lots of Jews in his administration  so Israel was safe.

 on: July 26, 2015, 03:47:08 PM 
Started by Crafty_Dog - Last post by G M
Has he attacked Hillary yet? If not, why not?

 on: July 26, 2015, 12:06:50 PM 
Started by Guard Dog - Last post by Guard Dog

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 on: July 26, 2015, 09:34:37 AM 
Started by Crafty_Dog - Last post by DougMacG
If Trump wants more attention, here goes...

Trump supports the Kelo decision where big business partners with big government to Trump the liberties of small people.  Is that populism?

Trump is hugely pro-choice.  How is that trending with Republicans and independents?

Trump was pro-Pelosi, meaning he favored a Democratic Congress.

Trump was pro-Hillary.

Trump is pro-amnesty.  Ask him.  What do you do with those here who didn't break laws other than illegally coming or staying.  Reasonable position possibly, but not likely what the hard core he stirred up want to hear. 

 on: July 25, 2015, 01:32:37 PM 
Started by buzwardo - Last post by Body-by-Guinness
This will be an interesting series to track. I suspect those with a carbon fetish who bandy about a lot of math will be provided plenty of food for thought:

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