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« Reply #700 on: January 26, 2017, 01:55:42 PM »

If just one out of one thousand votes are from illegals aliens or otherwise illegal or error that is 125 thousand or 2500 per state.  Does anyone rationally think this is not only possible but likely.  And indeed even more likely that that is low ball estimate?

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« Reply #701 on: January 29, 2017, 07:58:24 PM »

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/10/illegal-immigrants-could-elect-hillary-clinton-213216
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« Reply #702 on: February 01, 2017, 10:44:04 AM »

http://disobedientmedia.com/trump-files-with-fec-for-2020-election-bid-outmaneuvers-nonprofit-organizations/
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« Reply #703 on: February 01, 2017, 09:12:10 PM »

This ruling could be the doorway for third party politics to enter the fray in the United States. As some may recall, I spent a bit f time picking them apart a while ago, when I thought that Johnson may have warranted my support.

https://ivn.us/2017/02/01/breaking-federal-judge-rules-presidential-debate-commission/
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« Reply #704 on: February 08, 2017, 11:37:55 PM »

Anyone have anything on this?


https://www.thenation.com/article/house-republicans-just-voted-to-eliminate-the-only-federal-agency-that-makes-sure-voting-machines-cant-be-hacked/
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« Reply #705 on: February 09, 2017, 01:16:22 PM »


It's the end of the world as we know it, but not a big enough story to make the Huffington Post's top 100.  Maybe they're not liberal (or deranged) enough.  Searched voting machines on google news and pointed me back to the same story.  USA Today has a story, link and excerpt below.

My take: 1) Our elections aren't hacked because we don't centralize them.  US elections are divided into partially self governing states, congressional districts and in elections especially - the precinct level.  Cheating in Chicago or Detroit does not affect Minneapolis or Wyoming.  Butterfly ballots didn't turn the result in Ohio.  Recall the Chavez recall election in Venezuela.  He was trailing 40-60 and won 60-40.  Jimmy Carter the the UN watched the local sites while presumably the dictatorship moved the result 40 points at the center point.  Then Colin Powell and Bush certified Carter's report like it was the gold standard.  That doesn't happen here. 

Leftists at places like 'The Nation' scream the loudest when all the machines come from one manufacturer, have the same updates and vulnerabilities:  https://www.thenation.com/article/letters-325/


2) To 'The Nation', the agency is judged by it's good intentions; to conservatives the agency had a purpose that was fulfilled.  Government programs shouldn't live on forever.

USA TODAY: "Republicans have long argued the agency is no longer needed and was only meant to be a temporary agency to dole out $3.1 billion to states to improve election systems after the disputed 2000 presidential election. That money is gone. Democrats, however, argue the EAC is needed now more than ever."  http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/02/07/house-panel-votes-close-election-assistance-commission/97603326/

3) Why didn't Pres. Obama turn the current controversy, imaginary hacking, over to this agency if that is what they are chartered to do and good at?

4) If we closed one of these government solutions agencies every day that step on our 9th amendment, powers left to the people and to the states, there would still be plenty of agencies left to close at the end of 8 years.   MHO.
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« Reply #706 on: February 09, 2017, 01:38:25 PM »

Thank you.
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« Reply #707 on: February 09, 2017, 10:43:33 PM »

http://observer.com/2017/02/dnc-chair-candidate-tom-perez-admits-democratic-primaries-rigged/
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« Reply #708 on: February 17, 2017, 02:52:36 PM »

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/15/nearly-2-million-non-citizen-hispanics-illegally-r/

Between 38,000 and 2.1 million of them... my number is actually higher.

The number of non citizens registered to vote (a crime).... will be telling.
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« Reply #709 on: February 17, 2017, 04:41:49 PM »

DDF,

and this poll was only Latinos.    What about the millions of others who are here illegal or legally but are non citizens who may have registered to vote.

Anyone think there ain't people from Asia or Europe or Africa who are not voting illegally?

There seems no easy way to find this out or else it would be in the open
The Dems like it that way obviously.

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« Reply #710 on: February 17, 2017, 08:13:17 PM »

DDF,

and this poll was only Latinos.    What about the millions of others who are here illegal or legally but are non citizens who may have registered to vote.

Anyone think there ain't people from Asia or Europe or Africa who are not voting illegally?

There seems no easy way to find this out or else it would be in the open
The Dems like it that way obviously.



An excellent point, and one that I used in my original calculations, which may explain for my number being higher. I used the numbers from USCIS and the US Census as my sources, being that they didn't just count Latinos.

Either way, it definitely needs to be investigated, voting machines done away with, paper ballots, voter ID, and civilian, multiparty oversight of vote counting.

Barring that, it's still the adage "garbage in, garbage out."
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« Reply #711 on: February 18, 2017, 09:09:00 AM »

And we can also add to the potential numbers fraud from dead people voting, and those registered in more then one state.

I could not know if the total fraud reaches 2.8 million or so but it HAS to be in hundreds of thousands.
It ain't rare.

If it amounts to just 1 in 200 votes we are talking ~ 600K.   
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« Reply #712 on: February 28, 2017, 11:55:49 AM »

The Ohio Secretary of State has found hundreds of non-citizens registered to vote in the state, with more than a hundred of them, who were found to have cast votes at some time, and 82 of them casting votes in the last election.

http://nbc4i.com/2017/02/27/ohio-secretary-of-state-investigation-found-non-citizens-registered-to-vote-cast-illegal-ballots/

“In light of the national discussion about illegal voting it is important to inform our discussions with facts. The fact is voter fraud happens, it is rare and when it happens, we hold people accountable,” Secretary Husted said.

This is what covering one's rear end looks like. That is several Americans who have had their right to a vote stifled, with even one being too many. We're now talking about more than a 100 known cases, and hundreds registering to vote, which means at a minimum, that the thought of voting has occurred to them.

“I have a responsibility to preserve the integrity of Ohio’s elections system,” Secretary Husted said. “When you consider that in Ohio we have had 112 elections decided by one vote or tied in the last three years, every case of illegal voting must be taken seriously and elections officials must have every resource available to them to respond accordingly.”

"[...]non-citizens who have not cast a ballot will be sent letters both informing them that non-citizens are not eligible to vote and requesting that they cancel their registration. A follow-up letter will be sent to any individuals that still remain on the rolls after 30 days. Any non-citizens identified that remain on the rolls after being contacted twice will then be referred to law enforcement, according to Husted. - Why not immediately?

Ohio's demographics are stated to have  240,699 known non-citizens, with the majority being from Mexico. If the demographics for this register a number this high, for a state that ranks relatively low with illegal alien populations, how many non.citizens (illegal or documented), have voted in states where the non-citizen populations number in the millions - California, Florida, Illinois, New Jersey, New York and Texas? Four of those states voted Democrat, with the other two being very close toss-ups in the last election.

Census data - https://www.census.gov/newsroom/pdf/cspan_fb_slides.pdf

Pew's illegal population numbers - http://www.pewhispanic.org/interactives/unauthorized-immigrants/
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« Reply #713 on: February 28, 2017, 01:48:47 PM »

http://www.westernjournalism.com/report-justice-department-top-drop-opposition-texas-voter-id-law/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=THENewVoiceEmail&utm_campaign=can&utm_content=2017-02-28
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« Reply #714 on: March 02, 2017, 09:30:19 AM »



http://central-illinoisandbeyond.blogspot.com/2015/11/clinton-campaign-lawyer-charged-with.html
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« Reply #715 on: March 02, 2017, 02:40:43 PM »

second post

http://thefederalistpapers.org/us/obama-and-soros-colluded-to-bring-down-elected-government
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« Reply #716 on: March 02, 2017, 05:55:14 PM »


A bit off topic:

I'm currently compiling a database of every government in the world, ministries dedicated to gender, their budgets, etc...for my thesis...

The amount of money flowing through the State Department, the UN, and USAID organizations is ridiculous, and almost untracked...certainly not a thing that makes the evening news.. nor does the money's end location.

Edit: I'm also going to add, that globalists such as Soros and Obama must be delighted that the UN is pushing government policy in almost every country on the globe in a third party manner, directly by paying for poorer countries to do what they say... Burkina Faso... Chad... Belize... you name it... If it's a poor country... they are buying their way into power. The US isn't any different... they'll pay to implement policy in the States as well, in whatever form that may take... they definitely do not sovereignty.. and doubting that...just look at the CEDAW treaty, the UN Commission on the Status of Women, and their meeting agendas to insure that UN policy is followed and implemented. It's a fact, and it has nothing to do with what voters in any particular country might want.

Oddly enough... it also drives a decidedly Leftist ideology at the same time... Imagine that.
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« Reply #717 on: March 14, 2017, 09:14:42 AM »

It's important to note - this story was on Yahoo.com this morning, linking to a story by the Salt Lake Tribune (neither of which are fond of Trump), and are used as "proof" (the "comments" section on the SLT link reflects precisely that mindset), by the Left, that voter fraud on a massive scale isn't happening.

What this story and the other story posted previously fails to take into account, is that:

1.) The data isn't conclusive, nor is it even inclusive of every case.

2.) The stories posted here (including this one), only represent the states of Ohio and Wisconsin, and do not represent the major strongholds of Democrats, in which cases of voter fraud may not be being investigated fervently.


Madison, Wis. • Dozens of 17-year-olds voted illegally across Wisconsin during last spring's intense presidential primary, apparently wrongly believing they could cast ballots if they turned 18 ahead of the November general election, according to a new state report.

Wisconsin Elections Commission staff examined voter fraud referrals municipal clerks said they made to prosecutors following the 2016 spring primary and general elections. The commission is set to approve the findings during a meeting Tuesday and forward a report to the Legislature.

President Donald Trump has called for a "major investigation" into voter fraud and alleged that 3 million to 5 million people may have voted illegally in the November general election, a widely debunked claim. The report lists no instances of underage voters casting ballots in the general election.
 
Trump: "The press is making Obamacare look so good"
 
Republican Ted Cruz won the GOP primary in Wisconsin. Bernie Sanders won the Democratic contest. The state ultimately voted for Trump in the November general election, marking the first time a Republican presidential candidate had won Wisconsin since Ronald Reagan in 1984.

The report found at least 60 cases of 17-year-olds voting in the April primary in 29 counties. Kewaunee County referred nine people to prosecutors for voting as 17-year-olds, Rock County referred seven and Racine County referred five. Brown County referred what the report called "multiple" 17-year-olds to prosecutors. The report did not track charging decisions or for whom the 17-year-olds voted.

Commission spokesman Reid Magney said Monday that he'd never seen this issue crop up before. The teenagers were likely encouraged to go to the polls by messages flying around social media during the spring primary season saying 17-year-olds can vote in some states as long as they turn 18 before the November election, the report said.

Some political campaigns were also spreading false information about eligibility, the report said. The Sanders campaign specifically was sending out national messages on social media about 17-year-olds being able to vote in presidential primaries, Magney said, although Wisconsin election officials didn't see any misinformation from that campaign about Wisconsin.

No one under 18 can vote in any Wisconsin election, but 17-year-olds may have seen Sanders' messages and thought they could vote. Poll workers may not have understood the law or may not have been paying enough attention, he added.

"It wasn't a case of anyone sneaking in," Magney said. "It was a misunderstanding of the law."

Sanders campaign officials didn't immediately respond to an email Monday seeking comment.

Kewaunee County District Attorney Andrew Naze said he chose not to charge any of the 17-year-olds whom clerks referred to him. He said they honestly thought they were eligible to vote and didn't intend to break the law. Prosecutors in Rock, Racine and Brown counties didn't immediately respond to messages Monday.

The report noted that its findings aren't conclusive and it's possible other instances of suspected fraud may have been referred to prosecutors without the commission's knowledge or people may have filed complaints directly with district attorneys.


http://www.sltrib.com/home/5052118-155/story.html

It is obvious that voting in the primary is not the same as casting an official ballot in the presidential election. It does however, mean that minors were involving themselves in an election they had no right to, proving an important point as to the mindset of people in the country who clearly do not follow the law when it will benefit their political beliefs.

If this can be proven, regardless of the scale, and only in places where the desire to ferret out such cases exists, how many people without voting rights, are potentially voting?

There have been several instances in the United States, where elections are decided by very few ballots, and in some cases, even by single ballots.

Just this morning, there is another story in the new by Yahoo (https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/0ba276cc-b9c7-39cb-bd82-a00a566fc764/pregnant-guatemalan-mother-of.html), in which a Guatemalan woman who had come to the United States illegally at the age of 15, and has since had 5 children, is set to be deported. When the risks and rewards for illegal behavior are so high, the motive to vote illegally certainly exists. In places where voter fraud isn't investigated, and with Barrack Obama himself seemingly condoning illegal voting, the need for voter ID has already been established.

An extremely important aspect not mentioned in the story, is that the report mentions "minors" and not "non-citizens." How are they verifying going about the verification of citizenship? Who is on the investigative commission?

Additional Data:

Wisconsin Elections Commission Staff - Alphabetical Listing
http://elections.wi.gov/about/staff

Michael Haas   Administrator - Democrat - "Haas, long before he began working for the GAB in 2008, was an aide for then-Assembly Speaker Thomas A. Loftus, D-Sun Prairie, in 1989. And Haas was at the center of campaign finance controversy that pre-dated the so-called “Caucus Scandal” more than a decade later and the more recent unconstitutional John Doe probe the state Supreme Court has ordered shut down." http://watchdog.org/239568/gab-partisan-michael-haas/

Mark Thomsen - Wisconsin State Election Commission Chairman Democrat http://elections.wi.gov/about/members

To be fair, the Wisconsin State Elections Commission consists of six people, divided evenly between Democrats and Republicans. The Democrats do fill the Chair and Vice-Chair positions though.

Edit: Andrew Naze - Kewaunee County District Attorney - is also a Democrat - Listed on page 12 of the following: http://ethics.state.wi.us/newsandnotices/ElectionFallPotentialCandFiled.pdf and page 49 of the following pdf file listed below.

David J. O'Leary - Rock County District Attorney - Democrat - page 55 - http://elections.wi.gov/sites/default/files/page/candidates_on_ballot_aug_9_partisan_primary_after_20612.pdf

Patricia J. Hanson - Racine County District Attorney - Republican - page 54 - http://elections.wi.gov/sites/default/files/page/candidates_on_ballot_aug_9_partisan_primary_after_20612.pdf

David L. Lasee - Brown County District Attorney - Republican - page 43 - http://elections.wi.gov/sites/default/files/page/candidates_on_ballot_aug_9_partisan_primary_after_20612.pdf
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« Reply #718 on: March 14, 2017, 10:11:04 AM »

To speed up  the shifting political power AWAY from the aging white population Kalifornia is proposing this now.  NO other reason for it:

http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-californians-could-begin-voting-at-age-1488914709-htmlstory.html
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« Reply #719 on: March 14, 2017, 10:24:05 AM »

To speed up  the shifting political power AWAY from the aging white population Kalifornia is proposing this now.  NO other reason for it:

http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-californians-could-begin-voting-at-age-1488914709-htmlstory.html

Wow. I've been sitting here investigating election oversight in Wisconsin. I should be focused on California.

There can be no doubt as to what party is driving this:

""We want to expand the opportunity," said Assemblyman Evan Low (D-Campbell), author of the constitutional amendment that would have to be approved by a statewide vote in 2018."

Still...before I start that, I want to see how many of the prosecutors that refuse to file charges against cases of voter fraud are Democrats.

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« Reply #720 on: March 14, 2017, 11:39:28 AM »

The voting age is too low considering how little these young people know about life, politics and economics beyond what their liberal teachers have taught them.  That said, 17 year olds participating in the caucuses and primaries that will be 18 by election time is not any major part of the vote fraud problem.  It is legal in 22 states:  http://occasionalplanet.org/2014/02/11/voting-news-17-year-olds-can-vote-in-primaries-and-caucuses-in-20-states/

Illegals voting activists voting multiple times and live people voting for the dead would be the problems I would like to see investigated.  Also FELON voting.  Oddly, property owners tend to Republican and burglars tend to be Democrat.  Felons vote Dem by a margin of 6 to 1.  http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0002716213502931

We give driver's licenses to illegals - even though they don't need one to vote.  They can get utility bills and neighbors to vouch for them.  We let them live here and most workers in the neighborhoods where they live think they should be able to vote.  

But it's against the law and undermining our democracy in treason.IMHO.

13% of illegals admit they vote.  
http://www.capoliticalreview.com/capoliticalnewsandviews/poll-13-of-illegal-aliens-admit-they-vote-2015-report/  
http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/13/voter-fraud-real-heres-proof/
Maybe that number is high; maybe that number is low.
Where is the investigation, where are the prosecution, where are the deportations?
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« Reply #721 on: March 14, 2017, 01:12:41 PM »

Prosecuted Instances of Voter Crimes

From the Heritage Foundation:


AL - 12
AK - 1
AZ - 20
AR - 1
CA - 19
CO - 3
CT - 5
FL - 14
GA - 9
HI - 1
ID - 2
IL - 11
IN - 34
IA - 14
KS - 5
KY - 19
LA - 4
ME - 1
MD - 2
MA - 2
MI - 6
MN - 113
MS - 18
MO - 9
NC - 10
NV - 4
NH - 3
NJ - 10
NM - 5
NY - 7
ND - 1
OH - 15
OR - 6
PA - 6
SC - 1
SD - 2
TN - 6
TX - 14
UT - 1
VA - 7
WA - 10
WV - 6
WI - 18
WY - 3

https://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/2015/pdf/VoterFraudCases-8-7-15-Merged.pdf

This PDF report is not exhaustive, and generally covers convictions dating back to 1986, with one notable exception of one instance in 1948. It was last modified Tuesday, January 3rd, 2017 on the Amazon server.


Case Law and Statutes

From the Government's 2006 Election Assistance Commission:

Government "Consultants reviewed more than 40,000 cases that were identified using a series of search
terms related to voting fraud and voter intimidation. The majority of these cases came
from courts of appeal. This is not surprising, since most cases that are publicly reported
come from courts of appeal. Very few cases that are decided at the district court level are
reported for public review."


https://www.eac.gov/assets/1/workflow_staging/Page/57.PDF


Partisan Media

From the Mainstream Media:

There are numerous news articles from Leftist news organizations that state the voter fraud is not a serious matter. There are so many, I won't attempt to list them here.


Observations

How is it then, that with more than 40,000 instances of voter fraud, the majority of which never appear before public scrutiny, that states such as Minnesota and Indiana alone, with a combined population of 12,153,005 people, which isn't even a 1/3 of the population of California, which has 39,250,017 people, not counting the largest illegal population in the country, can generate 147 different people convicted of voter fraud crimes; whereas California has generated only 19 people convicted?

To make matters even clearer:

Minnesota and Indiana have a total of 5,775,957 total ballots counted in the last election. California had 14,610,509 total ballots counted.
http://www.electproject.org/2016g

Minnesota and Indiana have generated 7.7368 times more PEOPLE convicted of voter related crimes than California has, while having less than a third of the population California has.

If we include New York's population (19,795,791) and people convicted (7) with California's, the totals are  59,045,808 people, with 22,397,390 ballots counted in the last election, with a historic prosecution of voter fraud of 26 convictions, a collective population 4.85 times greater than Minnesota and Indiana, 3.877 as many ballots per ballots cast in Minnesota and Indiana; yet, have only convicted 17% of the people Minnesota and Indiana have managed to?

Are California and New York, who collectively wield 86 electoral votes (honorable mention also goes to Illinois, who is the 5th largest state by population, heavy illegal population, and also does not prosecute voter fraud [11 people convicted] whilst having 21 electoral votes), compared to Minnesota's and Indiana's collective electoral value of 21.


I won't propose any rhetorical questions.


http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/namerica/usstates/electorl.htm
http://www.enchantedlearning.com/usa/states/population.shtml
http://www.electproject.org/2016g



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« Reply #722 on: March 14, 2017, 04:06:04 PM »

Nice work DDF.

The question to me is not the prosecuted cases, and those are low numbers, it is the unknown and unprosecuted ones.

Interesting that MN leads the list of prosecuted voter fraud cases.  With the exception of the Al Franken theft, Minnesota used to be among the leaders in perception of clean elections.  Now we are a home to Chicago gunfire, Somali terror and Keith Ellison ethics.
Still, most prosecuted cases probably means least fraud.  Inverse relationship.

Documentary on the Al Franken recount, link gone blank.  http://kstp.com/article/stories/S1222327.shtml?cat=5  
I asked the television station for help on this.

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2010/07/20/al-franken-may-have-won-his-senate-seat-through-voter-fraud
At least 341 convicted felons voted in Minneapolis's Hennepin County, the state's largest, and another 52 voted illegally in St. Paul's Ramsey County, the state's second largest. Dan McGrath, head of Minnesota Majority, says that only conclusive matches were included in the group's totals. The number of felons voting in those two counties alone exceeds Mr. Franken's victory margin.

MN Gov vetoes 80% voter ID bill:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2011/05/029110.php
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« Reply #723 on: March 14, 2017, 04:32:04 PM »

"Documentary on the Al Franken recount, link gone blank.  http://kstp.com/article/stories/S1222327.shtml?cat=5 
I asked the television station for help on this."

Good!

"https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2010/07/20/al-franken-may-have-won-his-senate-seat-through-voter-fraud
At least 341 convicted felons voted in Minneapolis's Hennepin County, the state's largest, and another 52 voted illegally in St. Paul's Ramsey County, the state's second largest. Dan McGrath, head of Minnesota Majority, says that only conclusive matches were included in the group's totals. The number of felons voting in those two counties alone exceeds Mr. Franken's victory margin."

With Franken achieving national prominence, it is good to have these URLs on tap.
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« Reply #724 on: March 14, 2017, 05:26:45 PM »

"...it is good to have these URLs on tap."

With older links going bad, and some in a conspiratorial way, we need to be saving more than just links on the important stuff whenever possible.

With a bias detected in google, searches of information on one side of an issue are often difficult to impossible.  Try finding the Arctic Ocean levels.  And google owns youtube...

Without the conspiracy, some forum searches are failing too.
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Reply #139 on: November 29, 2009, 11:20:42 AM
Al Franken couldn't hold a 14 point Obama margin against popular centrist Republican incumbent Norm Coleman, but he did hold his election to a zero point margin, and that was enough because of the victory guarantee program his party had put in place ahead the election.

The near sweep of 2006 included replacing a competent (R) Secretary of State with one that was hand-picked by and heavily supported by the left-wing activist group moveon.org.  At the tiime no one outside of the Bush-Gore inner fight understood the significance.  Simultaneous to state change and even preceding it was the takeover of the inner city election process by ACORN.

Twin Cities ABC affiliate KSTP-5 just ran an extensive investigative report concluding that whether or not your questionable or clearly defective ballot was accepted or rejected depended wholly on what jurisdiction you lived in.  In the outlying areas, state law was followed.  In the liberal inner cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul, ballots without signatures, witnesses or addresses were commonly accepted.

They interviewed the MN Sec. of State for 90 minutes and he refused to break out his reading glasses to look at any of the material they presented, sticking to generalities that prevailed in the court challenge to the end result.
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« Reply #725 on: March 14, 2017, 05:44:22 PM »

Thanks Doug. Spent a few hours on it.


I don't know squat about Franken. I'll have to read up on it.

I concur completely about Google. I speak Russian and use Russian search engines frequently, and there is a huge difference between what google.com shows and that of rambler.ru or yandex.ru will give you as results. I've noticed it before.


To both you and Crafty.... reddit has a link to a webpage archiving system. I'll see if I can't find it and post it here later. Got to run for a few.
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« Reply #726 on: March 14, 2017, 06:32:59 PM »

DDF: The importance of Al Franken is that he won his US Senate seat by a very small margin, all on a (failed and uneven) recount, and became the 60th vote in the Senate necessary to pass Obamacare, affecting everyone.  He had previous national fame for playing a (not-funny) comedian role on Saturday Night Live on NBC-TV.  People are impressed that he now plays the role of a serious and sober liberal in Senate committees.  He asked the question that got Jeff Sessions in trouble.  He is a Harvard educated, New York liberal that moved back to Minnesota for the Senate run and then to Washington.

http://www.conservapedia.com/Al_Franken#cite_note-2
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« Reply #727 on: March 15, 2017, 03:09:44 AM »

"With older links going bad, and some in a conspiratorial way, we need to be saving more than just links on the important stuff whenever possible."

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #728 on: March 15, 2017, 09:23:33 AM »

Doug, Tujon Crafty.... here the archive on reddit - http://archive.today/ - let's you archive a site IMMEDIATELY.

https://www.reddit.com/r/YouShouldKnow/comments/292z2b/ysk_about_archivetoday_a_website_that_lets_you/

There are a number of archiving sites. Some are more trustworty than others, Google - obvousily owning an "archiving" service.

The safest way is to create an archive and save it on your computer or a secondary hard-drive, memory stick, etc.

There are two problems:

1.) Archive.today won't save audio/video files.

2.) If you save the file on your computer, you won't be able to share it online with the ease that one shares a webpage, unless you have your own website (which isn't all that difficult, depending upon the complexity of the site), with the ease that one could share an existing webpage.

Other Options for archiving -

https://archive.org/web/

http://cachedview.com/ - owned by Google



More information - https://www.labnol.org/internet/archive-web-pages/20192/
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« Reply #729 on: March 15, 2017, 10:23:01 AM »

To keep his hands clean:

https://twitter.com/foxandfriends/status/841619127999508480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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« Reply #730 on: March 15, 2017, 10:29:48 AM »


This doesn't surprise me at all... from either party. If I was the most powerful man in the world... you can BET that I would do it.

That's the problem with having that much power. It's never good.
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« Reply #731 on: March 16, 2017, 01:41:40 PM »

https://patriotpost.us/posts/48015
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