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« Reply #750 on: May 26, 2017, 10:25:20 AM »

GM:
"I'm hoping that punching the MSM was what put him over the top."

Years ago anyone who did this would automatically nullify their fitness for office in my mind. 
Now, I am not necessarily proud to say that if this guy were running in NJ I would be more likely to vote for him.
Just how I feel in today's climate fighting liberals. 
I do  not want Montana's seat going over to the Dems.  Period.
Sad commentary on how the concept of right and wrong seems to have degraded.


BTW
Why is a ***UK***  newspaper! guy running around Montana getting up in the face of a Republican candidate?

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« Reply #751 on: May 26, 2017, 12:37:31 PM »

Punching reporters is a no no.  Period.
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« Reply #752 on: May 26, 2017, 12:45:25 PM »

Punching reporters is a no no.  Period.


http://ace.mu.nu/archives/369943.php

May 26, 2017
Here Is Why We Shouldn't Care That Greg Gianforte Won The Special Election In Montana
Remember Congressman Etheridge? Probably not, because the Democrat Party protects its own.

Check the video below the fold for Etheridge's violent reaction to some students asking him questions.

But the Dems were cool with that behavior, because they allowed him to run for the governorship in the Democratic primary, and then after he lost gave him a job in government! He is the executive director of the North Carolina branch of the U.S. Farm Service Agency, whatever the hell that is.

So lets us not get too exercised by Gianforte's behavior. Holding Republicans to a different standard than Democrats is exactly the game plan of the Democrat Party, and it works very, very well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oqIP9yagkQ

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« Reply #753 on: May 26, 2017, 01:31:46 PM »

"Holding Republicans to a different standard than Democrats is ..."

A fact.  Something Republicans surrendered to long ago.

Facts are still unknown here, but the alleged behavior (unfairly) reflects badly on all Republicans.

I'm glad he won, but if convicted of a serious crime, maybe Montana Republicans can nominate someone else next year.
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I like ccp's question:

"Why is a ***UK***  newspaper! guy running around Montana getting up in the face of a Republican candidate?"

As is widely known, 'reporters' try to make news, not report news.  That sounds even worse when it is a foreign owned newspaper, trying to change the outcome rather than observe and report.  Since this event may have helped the Republican, maybe Democrats will scream for a congressional inquiry and independent prosecutor to look into British interference into our elections!
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« Reply #754 on: May 26, 2017, 01:35:54 PM »

Perhaps it's time to stop surrendering, and to quote a former president, "Punish our enemies".


"Holding Republicans to a different standard than Democrats is ..."

A fact.  Something Republicans surrendered to long ago.

Facts are still unknown here, but the alleged behavior (unfairly) reflects badly on all Republicans.

I'm glad he won, but if convicted of a serious crime, maybe Montana Republicans can nominate someone else next year.
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I like ccp's question:

"Why is a ***UK***  newspaper! guy running around Montana getting up in the face of a Republican candidate?"

As is widely known, 'reporters' try to make news, not report news.  That sounds even worse when it is a foreign owned newspaper, trying to change the outcome rather than observe and report.  Since this event may have helped the Republican, maybe Democrats will scream for a congressional inquiry and independent prosecutor to look into British interference into our elections!
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« Reply #755 on: May 26, 2017, 04:11:02 PM »

"Perhaps it's time to stop surrendering, and to quote a former president, "Punish our enemies"."

INDEED!


Today (the other)  GG apologized .  So we do EXACTLY as the LEFT would do.  Accept his apology and move along as though nothing ever happened.

My understanding the assault charge is a misdemeanor.  Do a few hrs of community service (whatever that BS is), and pay a fine, and buy the twit a new pair of glasses.

Then let GG go to Washington and unleash him on Amy's cousin (just kidding)   grin

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« Reply #756 on: May 26, 2017, 07:48:30 PM »

I get all that AND for the sake of our integrity-- and our honor in the eyes of others-- we must forthrightly and without hesitation "They do it too" say this was wrong.
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« Reply #757 on: May 27, 2017, 12:12:18 AM »

I get all that AND for the sake of our integrity-- and our honor in the eyes of others-- we must forthrightly and without hesitation "They do it too" say this was wrong.

The left counts on us to be good victims for them. Time for them to understand that's no longer the case. Violence will be met with violence.
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« Reply #758 on: May 27, 2017, 12:16:40 AM »

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/369954.php

May 26, 2017
Political Violence From the Left Continues Garnering Zero Condemnation in Leftist Media

You can find my condemnation of Greg Gianforte's bodyslam right next to CNN's condemnation of the professor charged with three accounts of attacking peaceful Trump supporters -- with a bike lock. Which is a heavy metal improvised weapon.

Berkeley police have arrested a former Diablo Valley College professor for committing an assault during the protests that took place this April. During the protest, violence broke out between supporters of President Trump and far-left anarchists who brand themselves "Antifa," many of whom were clad in black and wore full face masks to conceal their identities.
East Bay Times reports that 28-year-old Eric Clanton was arrested Wednesday evening in Oakland and is currently being held on a $200,000 bail in Berkeley City Jail. He was arrested on suspicion of three counts of assault with a deadly weapon, including a U-lock bike lock, a weapon he is alleged to have used to seriously injure three people at the protest.

Note the three attacks hit the victim in the neck or head -- which is the target point which could kill someone with a steel bludgeon -- and also note that it does not appear to be the cops or the media which ferreted out this guy's identity, but 4chan.

Apparently the media couldn't give any fucks about it, and still doesn't.

You can also find my scathing rebuke of violence by the right next to CNN's denunciations of the mob attackers at Middlebury College, at least one of whom participated in an attack on a woman causing her enough injury to need a neck brace.

Oh, and you can also find my denunciation in the same common repository in which CNN scolds Middlebury for promising to punish the violent felons, but then not really punishing them at all.

Many are on temporary probation, with notation of that probably expunged from their record if they don't re-offend for the rest of the semester (that is, until like last week), and others have a notation in their file. This, too, I imagine will never be disclosed to anyone, due to privacy concerns -- so what's the point of a notation?

If students know they won’t be punished for violent and childish behavior, why would they stop?
One wonders if conservative students disrupting, say, a Linda Sarsour or Bill Ayers speech in similar fashion would receive such light sentencing. They certainly wouldn’t receive such a muted response from the mainstream media.

No one can identify the person who caused the injury to the female prof's neck -- but perhaps they're not looking all that hard, as they didn't seem to look very hard into the bike lock attacks in Berkley.

Maybe a job for 4chan again, to do the investigatory work the police and media aren't interested in.
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« Reply #759 on: May 27, 2017, 12:20:37 AM »

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/05/26/police-tell-prof-hes-in-danger-for-not-participating-in-campus-no-whites-day/

Police Tell Prof He's in Danger for Not Participating in Campus 'No Whites' Day
 BY TOM KNIGHTON MAY 26, 2017 CHAT 178 COMMENTS

An anti-fascist lights an American flag on fire during a free speech rally at Martin Luther King Jr. Civic Center Park in Berkeley, California, United States of America on April 15, 2017. (Photo by Emily Molli/NurPhoto) (Sipa via AP Images)
Evergreen State College hosts an annual event called a "Day of Absence" where, traditionally, minority students and faculty step away from the campus for the day to show just how significant their impact is. Additionally, white students attend workshops on racism.

This year, the school apparently thought it would just be a hoot to change things up and just kick all the white folks off campus instead. Biology professor Bret Weinstein, however, took issue with the event.

Now, students are calling for his head:

Students at Evergreen State College in Olympia, who filmed their exploits and posted the videos on social media, have occupied and barricaded the library, shouting down anyone who disagrees with them or shows insufficient passion for racial justice.
Biology professor Bret Weinstein was berated by dozens of students outside of his classroom Tuesday morning for refusing to participate in an event in which white people were invited to leave campus for a day. Now, he says police have told him to hold his classes off campus due to safety concerns.

Things are “out of control at Evergreen,” he said.

“Police told me protesters stopped cars yesterday, demanding information about occupants,” Mr. Weinstein told The Washington Times. “They believe I was being sought. It appears that the campus has been under the effective control of protesters since 9:30 a.m. Tuesday. Police are on lockdown, hamstrung by the college administration. Students, staff and faculty are not safe.”

A student interviewed denies any knowledge of Weinstein being specifically sought.

Weinstein's sin is simply thinking that asking white folks to leave the campus was very different than minorities choosing to remove themselves from campus. He has a point. It appears that the original intent of this event is to show just how important minorities are to the proper functioning of the school. So why will demanding 66.7 percent of the student body, as well as Lord only knows how many faculty and staff, accomplish that same purpose?

 
Weinstein took issue with the change in an email, which led to him being confronted by students who refused to listen to the professor:

When the professor tells the students he will listen to them if they listen to him, one student responds, “We don’t care what terms you want to speak on. This is not about you. We are not speaking on terms -- on terms of white privilege. This is not a discussion. You have lost that one.”
Another protester asks the professor whether he believes “black students in sciences are targeted.”

After asking for a clarification, Mr. Weinstein says, “I do not believe that anybody on our faculty, with intent, specially targets students of color.”

That remark prompts shrieks of outrage.

Way to keep those lines of communication open, kids. Way to go.

For the record, Weinstein isn't exactly a member of the alt-Right. His brother describes him as "center-left." But in this day and age where Leftism has given up on its former one-sided "dialogue" tactic for all-out fascism, Weinstein suffers from the sin of insufficient enthusiasm for a Leftist cause. Any disagreement makes him Hitler in their minds. How dare he think for himself and challenge their ideas?

Remember, boys and girls, the Social Justice Warrior is not for tolerance and diversity. He's for cleansing society of unbelievers.
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« Reply #760 on: May 27, 2017, 11:30:29 AM »

The prof was on Tucker Carlson last night.  The cowardice of the school's administration that he described boggles the mind.
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« Reply #761 on: May 27, 2017, 11:46:50 AM »

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2017/04/hundreds-vote-illegally-north-carolina-court-bans-election-integrity-law/

Hundreds Vote Illegally in North Carolina after Court Bans Election Integrity Law

APRIL 26, 2017
 
Less than a year after a federal appellate court sided with the Obama administration to strike down North Carolina’s election integrity reforms, a state audit reveals that hundreds of votes were illegally cast by felons and non-citizens in just one election. Voter impersonation, double voting and irregularities in absentee ballots sent via mail also tainted the election, according to the investigation conducted by the North Carolina State Board of Elections (NCSBE). The probe analyzed records from the 2016 general election.

State auditors found that about 500 ineligible people voted in 2016, more than 440 of them felons. Dozens of non-citizens from 28 different countries also cast ballots, the probe found. “A number of non-citizens said they were not aware that they were prohibited from voting,” the report states. “Interviews and evidence show that some non-citizens were misinformed about the law by individuals conducting voter registration drives or, in at least one document case, by a local precinct official.” North Carolina authorities are also investigating 24 substantiated cases of double voting in 2016. “Some violators appear to be ‘testers’ trying to find holes in the system,” according to the report. “Others claim property ownership in multiple jurisdictions should allow them to vote in each, and others brush past the law to support their candidate by any means necessary. Additionally, a case that initially appears to be a double voter—an individual who votes twice—may actually be a case of voter impersonation—an individual who casts a ballot using the identity of another person.”

The NCSBE concedes that there are probably many more cases of double voting but identifying them is difficult and there’s no reliable method to consistently find them and other types of election fraud. “While no audit exists to catch all possible cases of voter impersonation, double voter or deceased voter audits may detect such cases,” the report says. This brings up another alarming point; if duplicate registrations are voted, there’s no way to tell if that’s fraudulent voting by a single individual—which everyone assumes—or impersonation fraud. Even in the North Carolina probe, we’ll never know if that’s the whole number. “These kinds of stories are a feature of every election and that’s despite the fact that most states often don’t even track these crimes in a systematic way,” said Robert Popper, a former Deputy Chief of Justice Department Voting Section who heads Judicial Watch’s Election Integrity Project. “Some states admit they don’t track them at all,” Popper added.

Judicial Watch has been heavily involved in the North Carolina case and in 2015 filed an amicus curiae brief with the U.S. Supreme Court in opposition to a lower court ruling preventing the state from implementing its election integrity reform law. Passed by the legislature in 2013 the measure requires voters to present a photo identification, eliminates same-day registration, shortens the early voting period from 17 to 10 days and requires voters to cast ballots in their own precinct. The Obama administration joined a group of leftist organizations to challenge the law in federal court, alleging that it disparately and adversely affects minority voting rights. A federal judge, Thomas D. Schroeder, rejected the claims and the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit ruled against North Carolina just prior to the November 2014 elections. State officials asked the Supreme Court for a temporary stay of the Fourth Circuit’s ruling and the high court granted it, allowing North Carolina’s election integrity rules to be used in 2014.

In its unanimous decision, the three-judge panel from the Fourth Circuit wrote that North Carolina’s voter integrity law harmed blacks, who overwhelmingly cast ballots for Democrats. “The new provisions target African Americans with almost surgical precision” and “impose cures for problems that did not exist,” the appellate ruling states. “Thus the asserted justifications cannot and do not conceal the State’s true motivation.” Under the racial “disparate impact” theory, which is at the heart of the controversial Fourth Circuit opinion, a defendant can be held liable for discrimination for a policy hat statistically disadvantages a minority group, even if that negative impact was neither foreseen nor intended. The more broadly accepted view by courts under Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act (VRA) says that a violation occurs only when voting practices are motivated by a discriminatory intent and that any incidental racially disparate impact of a voting law is not sufficient on its own to prove a violation of Section 2.
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« Reply #762 on: May 29, 2017, 12:25:55 AM »

Reliability of source unknown

http://constitution.com/dnc-voter-fraud-investigator-found-dead-florida/
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« Reply #763 on: May 30, 2017, 11:44:43 AM »

https://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/2017/05/30/alien-invasion-thousands-of-foreigners-registered-to-vote-and-voting-in-virginia/

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« Reply #764 on: May 30, 2017, 12:42:40 PM »

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/05/30/obama-admin-illegal-spying-worse-than-watergate-glenn-reynolds-column/102284058/

http://nypost.com/2017/05/26/how-team-obama-tried-to-hack-the-election/
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« Reply #765 on: May 31, 2017, 12:16:26 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRqHB6oz7yc

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« Reply #766 on: June 06, 2017, 09:24:29 AM »

https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/another-massacre-for-conservatives-at-the-supreme-court

thought "think progress" thinks this will have the reverse effect:

https://thinkprogress.org/supreme-court-easier-gerrymandering-e6c986056e62
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« Reply #767 on: June 16, 2017, 11:47:11 PM »

https://toinformistoinfluence.com/2017/06/15/moscows-assaults-on-american-democracy-began-80-years-ago/
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« Reply #768 on: June 19, 2017, 10:33:28 AM »



http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/338404-supreme-court-to-consider-wisconsin-gerrymandering-case

In 2012, after the map was introduced, Republicans won 60 seats in the 99-seat Assembly, even though the party’s candidates won 48.6 percent of the two-party vote, according to the Brennan Center for Justice.  (Marc:  NOTE THIS)

Federal courts have previously ruled that maps that employ “racial gerrymandering” are unconstitutional. In racial gerrymandering, lines are drawn to lower the influence of minority voters, sometimes by scattering them across different districts.

The challenge to Wisconsin’s legislative lines are different because the challenge revolves around whether district lines can be drawn for a partisan advantage.
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« Reply #769 on: June 20, 2017, 11:59:51 AM »

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/19/noncitizen-illegal-vote-number-higher-than-estimat/
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« Reply #770 on: June 21, 2017, 10:54:13 AM »



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqn6ig2fJro
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« Reply #771 on: June 22, 2017, 04:05:14 PM »


No Drama Obama
By August, the FBI had evidence that Russian-backed hackers had targeted electoral systems in 21 American states, officials confirmed Wednesday. So why did the Obama administration wait until Oct. 7 to reveal the cyberattack on the U.S. elections process? Former Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson, testifying before the House Intelligence Committee on Wednesday, said Obama administration officials feared they would be blamed for trying to influence the election. “We were very concerned that we would not be perceived as taking sides in the election, injecting ourselves into a very heated campaign,” he said.


Also see

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-johnson-russia-20170621-story.html
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« Reply #772 on: June 22, 2017, 04:58:33 PM »

To Jeh Johnson / LA Times:  The reason the Obama administration might be perceived as taking sides in the 2016 election is because they did, all the way up and down the departments.  We are still 'unmasking' ways in which they did that, some legal, some not.

On another matter, I would still like to see an inquiry into the 'data mining' operation of 2012 where nearly every recipient of public subsidy received a personal visit from the reelection committee.
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« Reply #773 on: June 23, 2017, 12:58:42 AM »

Or the enabling of foreign donations via credit card online in 2008 , , ,

Mark Levin riffed this afternoon on Debbie Wasserman Schultz in effect calling Jeh Johnson a liar.  Though she herself is one, as we noted here, apparently the FBI only "notified" the DNC of the Russki hack with a phone message on a line that would only go to some lower level flunky and other than that left them hacked for quite some time (one year?)
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« Reply #774 on: June 23, 2017, 12:49:38 PM »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/world/national-security/obama-putin-election-hacking/?hpid=hp_hp-banner-high_russiaobama-banner-7a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.8ddbfa156299
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« Reply #775 on: June 27, 2017, 12:18:57 PM »

https://stream.org/5-7-million-noncitizens-voted-past-presidential-elections-study-finds/

Up to 5.7 Million Noncitizens Voted in Past Presidential Elections, Study Finds
Eighty-two percent of noncitizens who admitted to voting in a survey said “I definitely voted” for Obama.

Who knew?

In another story:
Student headed to prison for registering dead voters for Democrats
JUNE 26, 2017, HARRISONBURG, Va. — A man paid to register Virginia voters prior to the 2016 Presidential Election will spend at least 100 days in prison for submitting the names of deceased individuals to the Registrar’s Office.
http://wtvr.com/2017/06/26/andrew-spieles-guilty-plea/

A good deal for him.  They used to get hanged for treason.
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« Reply #776 on: June 27, 2017, 02:24:20 PM »

"Student headed to prison for registering dead voters for Democrats"


“In July 2016 Spieles’ job was to register as many voters as possible and reported to Democratic Campaign headquarters in Harrisonburg,”

You mean he is crat?  Who would have ever guessed?
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« Reply #777 on: June 29, 2017, 06:37:53 PM »

This could get real interesting!

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/340117-trump-election-integrity-commission-requests-years-of-voter-data-from
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« Reply #778 on: June 29, 2017, 06:40:01 PM »


This of course will prompt screams of RAAAAaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaacist!!!!11!!!!11!!!1!!!!
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« Reply #779 on: July 01, 2017, 09:34:19 PM »

https://pjmedia.com/election/2017/06/30/mississippi-gop-official-on-trump-panels-voter-request-go-jump-in-the-gulf-of-mexico/

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« Reply #780 on: July 05, 2017, 11:30:31 PM »

http://thehill.com/regulation/other/340738-voter-fraud-commission-may-have-violated-law?rnd=1499292453
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« Reply #781 on: July 05, 2017, 11:35:37 PM »


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« Reply #782 on: July 07, 2017, 04:52:39 PM »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/trump-voter-commission-discloses-names-of-members-plan-to-store-data-at-white-house/2017/07/06/74e454ae-625d-11e7-84a1-a26b75ad39fe_story.html?utm_term=.03fe557d3608&wpisrc=nl_headlines&wpmm=1

Are there legit privacy issues here?
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« Reply #783 on: July 07, 2017, 05:27:36 PM »

According to the left, this is not a privacy concern:

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-obamacare-patient-privacy-20150622-story.htmlCalifornia's Obamacare exchange to collect insurance data on patients
Covered California enrollment
People stand in line at Panorama Mall in Panorama City to enroll in the Covered California health exchange in 2014. The state-run marketplace is embarking on an ambitious effort to collect insurance company data on prescriptions, doctor visits and hospital stays for every Obamacare patient. (Irfan Khan / Los Angeles Times)
Chad Terhune    
California's Obamacare exchange embarks on ambitious effort to collect insurance company data on every patient
California's health insurance exchange wants to know why you got sick this summer.

With 1.4 million people enrolled, the state-run marketplace is embarking on an ambitious effort to collect insurance company data on prescriptions, doctor visits and hospital stays for every Obamacare patient.


Covered California says this massive data-mining project is essential to measure the quality of care that patients receive and to hold health insurers and medical providers accountable under the Affordable Care Act.

The state in April signed a five-year, $9.3-million contract with Truven Health Analytics Inc. of Michigan to run the database.

The effort has raised questions about patient privacy and whether the state is doing enough to inform consumers about how their data will be used. There are also worries about security amid massive breaches at Anthem Inc. and other health insurers affecting millions of Americans.

There is potential for so much public good, but there is a greater public good in protecting privacy and security.
— Michelle De Mooy, deputy director for consumer privacy at the Center for Democracy and Technology in Washington
Peter Lee, executive director of Covered California, said protecting sensitive information was a top priority and that consumers stand to benefit from the collection of medical data. He acknowledged the state had no plans to let consumers opt out and keep their records out of the database.

"To understand the quality of care being provided, you need everybody in," Lee said. "Without the data, we are only delivering on half the promise of the Affordable Care Act. We have to get beyond measuring access by anecdote."

For instance, the exchange will look to track how many diabetics are having their chronic condition managed correctly and how many screening tests for cancer led to early diagnosis and treatment.

Accessing voter records information is wrong! Well, unless it's to target someone who dared to question Baraq the Holy!


http://www.toledoblade.com/Politics/2008/10/16/Joe-the-plumber-isn-t-licensed.html

POLITICS 'Joe the plumber' isn t licensed
By LARRY VELLEQUETTE and TOM TROY | BLADE STAFF WRITERSPublished on Oct. 16, 2008
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"Joe the Plumber" isn t a plumber at least not a licensed one, or a registered one.

A check of state and local licensing agencies in Ohio and Michigan shows no plumbing licenses under Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher s name, or even misspellings of his name.

Last night, his name, "Joe the Plumber," came up about two dozen times in the debate between Mr. Obama and Republican nominee John McCain.

Since last night Mr. Wurzelbacher who lives alone with his 13-year-old son has been besieged with local and national news media, willingly granting interviews.

Mr. Wurzelbacher told reporters Thursday morning that he worked for Newell Plumbing & Heating Co., a small local firm whose business addresses flow back to several residential homes, including one on Talmadge Road in Ottawa Hills.

According to Lucas County Building Inspection records, A. W. Newell Corp. does maintain a state plumbing license, and one with the City of Toledo, but would not be allowed to work in Lucas County outside of Toledo without a county license.



Mr. Wurzelbacher said he works under Al Newell s license, but according to Ohio building regulations, he must maintain his own license to do plumbing work.

He is also not registered to operate as a plumber in Ohio, which means he s not a plumber.

Mr. Wurzelbacher said he was hired by Mr. Newell six years ago and that the possibility of him eventually buying the company was discussed during his job interview.

He said it s his understanding he can work under Mr. Newell s license as long as the licensed contractor works on the same site.

Mr. Wurzelbacher said he is working on taking the Ohio plumbing contractors license test.

Mr. Wurzelbacher s notoriety has raised the ire of Tom Joseph, business manager for Local 50 of the United Association of Plumbers, Steamfitters, and Service Mechanics, who claimed that Mr. Wurzelbacher didn t undergo any apprenticeship training.

"When you have guys going out there with no training whatsoever, it s a little disreputable to start with," Mr. Joseph said. "We re the real Joe the Plumber."

Mr. Joseph said Mr. Wurzelbacher could only legally work in the townships, but not in any municipality in Lucas County or elsewhere in the country.

"This individual has got no schooling, no licenses, he s never been to a training program, union or non-union, in the United States of America," Mr. Joseph said.

The association has endorsed Barack Obama, according to Mr. Joseph.

Questions were raised Thursday morning whether Mr. Wurzelbacher is a registered voter.

Linda Howe, executive director of the Lucas County Board of Elections, said a Samuel Joseph Worzelbacher, whose address and age match Joe the Plumber s, registered in Lucas County on Sept. 10, 1992. He voted in his first primary on March 4 of this year, registering as a Republican
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Ms. Howe said that the name may be misspelled in the database.

Mr. Wurzelbacher, 34, acknowledged during an interview at his home late Thursday morning that he knows he s "a flash in the pan," after his fame spread for an impromptu debate he had in front of his Springfield Township home with Mr. Obama last Sunday.

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Byron York: Rebel states sell info they hide from Trump voter commission
by Byron York | Jul 5, 2017, 11:13 PM 

In the past week election officials in dozens of states have rejected a request from the newly-formed Presidential Advisory Commission on Electoral Integrity to provide voter records for a study on the extent (if any) of election fraud. Some of those officials have expressed great indignation that the commission would even ask. Yet many of those same officials would gladly sell those very same records — to campaigns, to candidates, to political consultants, even to you. It's a situation that baffles some political veterans.

President Trump created the commission by executive order on May 11. Vice President Mike Pence is the chairman, and the vice chairman is Kris Kobach, the Kansas secretary of state and gubernatorial candidate. Kobach is the one who sent the request to officials in all 50 states.


The purpose of the commission, Kobach wrote, is to identify "rules, policies, activities, strategies, and practices that enhance or undermine the American people's confidence in the integrity of federal elections processes." Kobach asked state officials to answer some straightforward questions, like "What changes, if any, to federal election laws would you recommend to enhance the integrity of federal elections?" and "What evidence or information do you have regarding instances of voter fraud or registration fraud in your state?" and "What recommendations do you have for preventing voter intimidation or disenfranchisement?

Nothing too controversial there. But then Kobach added the request that has set off a firestorm:

In addition, in order for the commission to fully analyze vulnerabilities and issues related to voter registration and voting, I am requesting that you provide to the commission the publicly available voter roll data for [your state], including, if publicly available under the laws of your state, the full first and last names of all registrants, middle names or initials if available, addresses, dates of birth, political party (if recorded in your state), last four digits of social security number if available, voter history (elections voted in) from 2006 onward, active/inactive status, cancelled status, information regarding any felony convictions, information regarding voter registration in another state, information regarding military status, and overseas citizen information.

In response, state officials not only refused to provide Kobach the requested information — at least 45 have said no so far — but have tried to outdo each other in expressing patriotic outrage that the commission would even consider asking such a thing.

"My reply would be: They can go jump in the Gulf of Mexico," wrote Mississippi's Republican secretary of state, Delbert Hosemann.

"[The] Constitution ensures voters ballot choices will always be secret. Americans have died protecting this freedom," tweeted South Carolina's Republican governor, Henry McMaster.

"I find this request for the personal information of millions of Marylanders repugnant," said Maryland Attorney General Brian Frosh. "It appears designed only to intimidate voters and to indulge President Trump's fantasy that he won the popular vote."

"I have no intention of honoring this request," said Virginia's Democratic Gov. Terry McAuliffe. "This entire commission is based on the specious and false notion that there was widespread voter fraud last November."

For commission members, the responses are hard to understand. "The reaction to this has been absurd," said Hans von Spakovsky, a former Bush Justice Department official, former member of the Federal Elections Commission, and head of the conservative Heritage Foundation's Election Law Reform Initiative, who is now serving on the Trump commission. "The commission is asking for voter registration and other information that is publicly available. Not only do all of the political parties buy this information routinely from secretaries of states — so do candidates."

It's true. Just look at, say, the Department of Elections webpage in Terry McAuliffe's Virginia. The department lists "client services" that include the purchase of voter lists. To candidates, parties, campaigns, and "members of the public seeking to promote voter participation," the state of Virginia will sell:


Registered Voter List (RVL) and Newly Registered Voter List (NRV) — full name, residence address, mailing address, gender, date of birth, registration date, date last registration form received, registration status, locality, precinct, voting districts and voter identification number.

Want the data in slightly different form? Virginia also sells:

List of Those Who Voted (LTWV) — full name, residence address, mailing address, gender, date of birth, registration date, date last registration form received, registration status, locality, precinct, voting districts, voter identification number, election date, election type, and whether the voter voted in-person or absentee.

For another example, look at the state of Maine, which has also refused to cooperate with the commission, but which by law spells out the types of voter information it will sell:

The secretary of state or the registrar shall make available the following voter record information, subject to the fees set forth in subsection 2: the voter's name, residence address, mailing address, year of birth, enrollment status, electoral districts, voter status, date of registration, date of change of the voter record if applicable, voter participation history, voter record number and any special designations indicating uniformed service voters, overseas voters or township voters.

Notice that much of the information for sale in Maine and Virginia is similar, if not identical, to the data requested by Kobach. Many states have similar provisions. Which raises the question: If voter information is for sale, why is it a matter of principle to refuse to provide it to the Presidential Advisory Commission on Electoral Integrity?

"It's silly," said Chris Wilson, CEO of the political consulting group WPA Intelligence and former head of research and analytics for the Ted Cruz presidential campaign. "This is data that we can purchase online from multiple states and multiple sources."

Von Spakovsky added that, if the fact that states sell voter information were not enough, federal law requires states to keep and give out the same information. The National Voter Registration Act, also known as the Motor Voter law, includes a provision saying, "Each state shall maintain for at least 2 years and shall make available for public inspection and, where available, photocopying at a reasonable cost, all records concerning the implementation of programs and activities conducted for the purpose of ensuring the accuracy and currency of official lists of eligible voters…" I asked von Spakovsky if that rather convoluted phrase covered voter rolls and information. "Yes," he answered.

There is one thing that Kobach asked states for — and it is important to note that Kobach's letter is a request, specifically asking only for information that is publicly available under state law — that is not for sale, and that is the request for the last four digits of a voter's Social Security number. Even though having the last four digits might be useful to researchers trying to distinguish between voters with the same names, it might be that states could reasonably refuse to give the commission that one bit of information. But that doesn't account for the across-the-board denials from so many states.

Of course, the big reason many state officials, particularly Democrats, are refusing to provide information is that they simply do not believe voter fraud exists, or exists in anything other than the tiniest numbers. But von Spakovsky points out that there are respected studies pointing to problems with the nation's voter rolls that deserve further study.

In 2012, for example, Pew Research published a study on the nation's voter registration system, which it concluded was "inaccurate, costly, and inefficient." Pew found that:

Approximately 24 million — one of every eight — voter registrations in the United States are no longer valid or are significantly inaccurate.
More than 1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters.
Approximately 2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.

The problem with the Pew study, as von Spakovsky sees it, is that Pew did not study whether those registration problems actually resulted in voting problems. "We know for a fact that people who aren't U.S. citizens are registering and voting in U.S. elections," he said. "How extensive is that problem? I don't know because no one has ever done the work to find that out."

Now the Trump commission is seeking answers. To do so, it needs the information that, until now, many states routinely gave out to interested parties. Now, however, the states appear to be spoiling for a fight. Given the amount of public posturing involved so far, it's not at all clear the commission can succeed.
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« Reply #785 on: July 09, 2017, 09:06:02 PM »

http://enewspaper.latimes.com/desktop/latimes/default.aspx?pubid=50435180-e58e-48b5-8e0c-236bf740270e
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« Reply #786 on: July 12, 2017, 07:47:04 AM »

non stop liberals.

Could anyone imagine Brock doing anything else?

https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/obama-joins-eric-holder-powwow-to-fund-dem-electoral-tinkering
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« Reply #787 on: July 13, 2017, 02:41:45 PM »

https://patriotpost.us/posts/50146
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« Reply #788 on: July 21, 2017, 01:42:11 PM »

http://dailysignal.com/2017/07/20/voter-fraud-database-tops-1000-proven-cases/

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Voter Fraud Database Tops 1,000 Proven Cases
Jason Snead   / @jasonwsnead / Emily Hall   / July 20, 2017 / comments

The Heritage Foundation's voter fraud database now documents 1,071 cases of voter fraud. (Photo: iStock Photos)
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Jason Snead is a policy analyst in The Heritage Foundation's Edwin Meese III Center for Legal and Judicial Studies. Read his research.

Emily Hall is a member of the Young Leaders Program at The Heritage Foundation, and a member of Harvard University's Class of 2018.
As the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity convenes its first meeting on Wednesday, the issue of voter fraud in American elections has become even more contentious and hyperbolic.

One of the left’s main arguments against reform is that voter fraud simply does not occur. How liberals arrive at this conclusion, we cannot say.

Time and again, studies and analyses point to one incontrovertible conclusion: that voter fraud is a real and pressing issue that deserves serious solutions, and The Heritage Foundation has the evidence to prove it.

On Thursday, The Heritage Foundation is releasing a new edition of its voter fraud database. Featuring well over 100 new cases, the database documents 1,071 instances of voter fraud spanning 47 states, including 938 criminal convictions.

Americans need an alternative to the mainstream media. But this can't be done alone. Find out more >>

This revamped edition of the database separates cases by type of disposition, allowing readers to easily distinguish not only what type of fraud occurred but the outcome of the case—criminal convictions, pre-trial diversion programs, and other types of adjudication used in various states and counties across the United States.

Below are a few of the egregious examples recently added to the database.

Virginia

Andrew Spieles, a former James Madison University student, pleaded guilty to a charge stemming from his false submission of 18 voter registration forms during the summer of 2016.

He had been working for Harrisonburg VOTES, a voter registration organization affiliated with the Democratic Party, and used false birth dates and Social Security numbers to register deceased persons to vote. Spieles was given prison time for his crime.

This incident is just one of hundreds of cases in the database where individuals illegally registered dead people, names out of the phone book, or others to vote.

While Spieles was caught before votes could be cast on behalf of those falsely registered individuals, there have been many other cases in which ballots were successfully cast in the name of deceased people.

In fact, a 2012 Pew study concluded that 1.8 million voters remained on the rolls after their passing—a grave vulnerability to the integrity of our elections.

Maryland

Fredericus Hubertus Slicher, an illegal alien living in Baltimore, was convicted of numerous charges in 2014. He was residing illegally in the United States, collecting Medicare and Social Security benefits, and voting in U.S. elections.

Slicher had been present in the United States illegally since his temporary work visa expired in 1969. He was convicted of child abuse in 2004, was a registered sex offender, and yet he continued to vote numerous times despite being ineligible.

His case was referred to Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and he was sentenced to three months’ imprisonment, one year’s supervised release, and was ordered to pay $48,928 in restitution.

The newest additions to the database included a dozen cases of illegal voting by noncitizens. This is a particularly important issue to address, as each ballot cast by a noncitizen effectively nullifies the ballot of an eligible voter, effectively disenfranchising American citizens.

Ohio

Debbie Tingler of Reynoldsburg, Ohio, pleaded guilty (Case No. 12 CR 005249) to illegal voting in 2013. She had registered to vote, requested absentee ballots, and submitted those ballots under two names—Debbie Tingler and Deborah Tingler.

She was given a suspended sentence of 120 days’ imprisonment, and she was ordered to pay a $200 fine and court costs.

Tingler’s experience is not uncommon. There are dozens of cases in the database where individuals voted multiple times in the same election.

Given the fact that few states have adequate policies and procedures in place to detect and deter fraud—and prosecutors seldom prioritize these cases—it is likely that far more double voters, absentee-ballot fraudsters, and ineligible voters get away scot-free than are ever brought to justice.

The Heritage Foundation’s voter fraud database is by no means comprehensive, but its 1,071 proven instances of fraud, which took place across all manner of elections and in nearly every state, highlight the importance—and the urgency—of the work of the Election Integrity Commission.

What is needed now is more data to permit analysis aimed at determining, among other things, whether the nation’s voter registration records are accurate or riddled with errors.

In the coming months, the commission—which includes Heritage’s own Hans von Spakovsky, senior legal fellow and one of the nation’s foremost election law experts—will seek to gather this information.

Unfortunately, so far, even innocuous requests for public voter records have been met with hyperbolic rhetoric and stonewalling in some states.

This begs the question, why? If fraud is as rare as liberals say, and if state protections against it are as robust as we are told, why withhold data that would prove these claims?

Perhaps liberals are afraid that the data might, in fact, say the opposite.

One can deny facts for only so long, and with this newest release of The Heritage Foundation’s voter fraud database, the evidence is clear and incontrovertible: Voter fraud is real, and we ignore it at our own peril.
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« Reply #789 on: July 23, 2017, 03:56:25 PM »

http://dailysignal.com/2017/07/19/meet-the-elected-democrat-who-wants-to-fight-voter-fraud/?utm_source=TDS_Email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=MorningBell&mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiTjJNMllUTmhaV1pqWXpObCIsInQiOiI2U3g5NytBVGtLWDQxXC9KRjJnY0dIb01vRFRZUWNzRGg3N0d3NzIyclVXSFN3VWZnOWhcL0gyWVVJblZQTWpCbU9Pdkp5S1VXM29sQmd3OGdoSWx1TGlybHQwUFJaQ29cL0x3eDQ4NFJPSVlaa0tDb0JpaGdiaUEwdzVkZFg3UjhTcCJ9
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« Reply #790 on: July 24, 2017, 11:08:08 PM »

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/24/court-allows-trumps-voter-commission-proceed/?mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiWVRJMU9Ua3lORGc0TWpFeCIsInQiOiJ3bm9iU0U1N3hKeWpDZHpYS0FXUGlOWDBIV2hkYUh6bEhqTjc4UHpHdEllMTFxT3N5NDVVYVRJR3RXRGphcG1scWIxSTFiS2U1R1wvdjdrblNnYmx2cHJUSHNDRDdmdm43WFFhRlByRm5mU0pcL21JZGJYZWphbHZwbm9FMFk3QVRMIn0%3D
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« Reply #791 on: July 27, 2017, 12:03:09 PM »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/07/27/pences-voter-fraud-commission-will-almost-certainly-find-thousands-of-duplicate-registrations-that-arent-duplicates-heres-why/?utm_term=.c87921a86378&wpisrc=nl_politics&wpmm=1

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/07/26/federal-judge-upholds-fine-against-kris-kobach-for-pattern-of-misleading-the-court-in-voter-id-cases/?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.79e6742345b1

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« Reply #792 on: July 27, 2017, 01:09:32 PM »

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Judicial Watch Launches New Election Integrity Lawsuit

This week saw the first official meeting of the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity, which is under attack from leftists who want to preserve the ability to steal elections. Also this week, your Judicial Watch filed a new lawsuit that could serve to get key information about the integrity of election rolls in Maryland (one of the states “resisting” inquiries from the Advisory Commission on Election Integrity).
 
We filed the lawsuit simply to gain access to voter registration lists in Montgomery County, Maryland. The defendants are Montgomery County and the Maryland State Board of Elections. We filed the lawsuit to enforce our rights under the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (NVRA) in the U.S. District Court for the District of Maryland, Baltimore Division (Judicial Watch vs. Linda H. Lamone, et al. (No. 1:17-cv-02006)).
 
Back in April, we sent a notice letter to Maryland election officials that explained how there were more registered voters in Montgomery County than there were citizens over the age of 18.  The letter threatened a lawsuit if the problems with Montgomery County’s voter rolls were not fixed. The letter also requested access to Montgomery County voter registration lists to evaluate the efficacy of any “programs and activities conducted for the purpose of ensuring the accuracy and currency of Maryland’s official eligible voter lists during the past 2 years.”  On July 7, Maryland denied us access to the list because Maryland law supposedly restricts the release of voter registration information only to Maryland registered voters.
 
But Section 8(i) of the NVRA provides that “[e]ach State shall maintain for at least 2 years and shall make available for public inspection and, where available, photocopying at a reasonable cost, all records concerning the implementation of programs and activities conducted for the purpose of ensuring the accuracy and currency of official lists of eligible voter.”
 
In our lawsuit we noted that the registration list is covered under Section 8(i) of the NVRA:

“Section 8(i) of the NVRA contains no requirement that only an individual person or a registered voter may request the documents that the statute describes. Accordingly, Section 8(i) authorizes and entitles Judicial Watch to inspect and copy the requested voter list.”

In fact, we regularly request and receive records from state and local governments pursuant to Section 8(i) of the NVRA.  (The Director of Judicial Watch’s Election Integrity Project is Senior Attorney Robert Popper, who was formerly deputy chief of the Voting Section of the Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department.)  In April, we sent letters to 11 states with counties in which the number of registered voters exceeds the number of voting-age citizens. The states are: Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Iowa, Kentucky, Maryland, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina and Tennessee.
 
Maryland needs to make this voter registration information available as federal law requires. Maryland doesn’t want us to expose its voter roll mess, and we hope the courts move quickly so we can begin the process of cleaning up the rolls. This is a national problem, and Maryland is the scene of one of many legal battles we must be prepared to fight for clean elections.
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« Reply #793 on: July 30, 2017, 07:33:18 AM »

http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/hans-von-spakovsky/new-report-exposes-thousands-illegal-votes-2016-election
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« Reply #794 on: August 07, 2017, 06:52:06 PM »

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-warns-california-clean-voter-registration-lists-face-federal-lawsuit/
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« Reply #795 on: August 09, 2017, 11:11:09 AM »

Licenses, ID Cards Sold to Illegal Aliens by Corrupt State Workers Used for Voter Fraud

AUGUST 09, 2017

A year after Judicial Watch reported a rise in illegal aliens using fake Puerto Rican birth certificates to obtain authentic U.S. passports and drivers’ licenses, the feds have busted a Massachusetts operation run by corrupt state workers. The state employees sold drivers’ licenses and state identification cards to illegal immigrants who bought Puerto Rican documents on the black market, according to the Department of Justice (DOJ). The operation perpetuated voter fraud because some of the false identities and addresses were used to vote in Boston, the state’s capital and largest city.

The case is the latest of many illustrating that there’s an epidemic of voter fraud in the U.S. that’s seldom reported in the mainstream media. It’s not clear how many false identities and addresses were used to fraudulently register to vote in Boston, but the feds indicate that it occurred in multiple cases and Judicial Watch is investigating the matter as part of a five-year-old Election Integrity Project. The scheme was operated by four taxpayer-funded employees at the Massachusetts Registry of Motor Vehicles (RMV) along with two outside accomplices who sold Puerto Rican documents to illegal aliens. All six were recently arrested and charged with aggravated identity theft. They probably never would have been caught if not for an anonymous tip received by the Massachusetts State Police nearly two years ago and there’s no telling how long the illicit scheme operated.

The anonymous letter said that a corrupt RMV employee was providing stolen identifications and drivers’ licenses to individuals seeking false IDs, the DOJ announcement states. An investigation ensued and authorities discovered that the four clerks were working with a document vendor and document dealer to provide the licenses and official state ID cards to illegal immigrants in exchange for cash. “The scheme involved several steps,” the DOJ says. First, the document dealer sold a Puerto Rican birth certificate and U.S. Social Security card to the document vendor for approximately $900. The vendor would then sell the stolen identities for more than $2,000 to illegal aliens—some with criminal records—seeking legitimate identities in Massachusetts. After the first layer of illicit transactions occurred, the counterfeit documents and false identities and addresses were used to fraudulently register clients to vote in Boston.

Illegal aliens would then bring the stolen identities to the RMV where the corrupt clerks worked and they would accept cash to illegally issue authentic documents, including drivers’ licenses and ID cards. “The clerks also accepted cash to use the RMV’s system to run queries, including Social Security number audits, to confirm that the identities the clients were stealing actually belonged to verifiable individuals,” the DOJ announcement states. The unscrupulous state workers face up to two years in prison, according to the feds, who won’t reveal the magnitude of the operation and how many authentic state documents were issued fraudulently to illegal aliens.

Last year Judicial Watch published a story about the increasing number of illegal aliens using fake Puerto Rican birth certificates to obtain authentic American documents. Located about 1,000 miles southeast of Florida, Puerto Rico became a U.S. territory about two decades after the Caribbean island was acquired from Spain at the end of the Spanish-American war. Puerto Ricans are American citizens at birth though they don’t have the right to vote in federal elections and the island has only one non-voting representative in Congress. In recent years a record number of Puerto Ricans have left their troubled island for the U.S. and a big chunk has settled on Florida. A recent study found that the island’s ongoing economic recession has led to a mass exodus not seen in more than five decades. The U.S. government and its various agencies accept Puerto Rican birth certificates blindly even though fraud involving the easily forged documents has been pervasive for years.
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« Reply #796 on: August 10, 2017, 08:22:48 AM »

http://www.capoliticalreview.com/capoliticalnewsandviews/collusion-between-fppc-commission-and-democrats-to-deny-honest-special-election-editorial-by-stephen-frank/
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