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« Reply #500 on: April 30, 2014, 08:33:45 AM »


Police work in some countries is closer to combat.
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« Reply #501 on: May 16, 2014, 09:50:25 PM »



http://www.foxbaltimore.com/news/features/around-the-web/stories/surprise-traffic-stop--wbff.shtml?wap=0#.U3bNq4WwUpk
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« Reply #502 on: May 30, 2014, 05:24:44 PM »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2643344/Horror-SWAT-team-throw-stun-grenade-toddlers-CRIB-drugs-raid-leaving-coma-severe-burns.html
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« Reply #503 on: June 01, 2014, 10:20:56 AM »



http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/31/us/book-guiding-border-agents-on-force-is-released.html?emc=edit_th_20140531&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=49641193
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« Reply #504 on: June 03, 2014, 08:12:51 AM »



 http://pjmedia.com/blog/swat-tragedy-that-burned-an-infant-could-have-been-avoided/
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« Reply #505 on: June 30, 2014, 12:32:30 PM »



http://www.nationalreview.com/article/381446/barney-fife-meets-delta-force-charles-c-w-cooke
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« Reply #506 on: June 30, 2014, 12:39:27 PM »


Typical uninformed blather. Try an informed opinion.

http://www.policeone.com/police-products/vehicles/specialty/articles/6401816-Police-militarization-and-the-argument-for-armored-vehicles/
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« Reply #507 on: July 12, 2014, 02:25:56 PM »

GM:

Interested in your take on this:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/12/the-sickening-reason-why-all-those-federal-agents-suddenly-swarmed-a-small-illinois-town/
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« Reply #508 on: July 12, 2014, 11:30:17 PM »


They may have had intel this subject might fight, have access to weaponry. This sort of charge has serious consequences and sometimes these subjects decide they have nothing to lose. Officers have been killed serving search warrants on these cases.
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« Reply #509 on: July 13, 2014, 11:30:47 AM »

With nothing to base that upon methinks you may be reaching here GM.  This may be just as bad as it looks to be.
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« Reply #510 on: July 13, 2014, 01:53:27 PM »

I'm not getting what you find objectionable here.
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« Reply #511 on: July 13, 2014, 06:43:06 PM »

Military tools and force for an ordinary search warrant.
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« Reply #512 on: July 13, 2014, 08:25:31 PM »

What is your definition of a "military" tool?
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« Reply #513 on: July 17, 2014, 03:42:23 PM »

What is your definition of a "military" tool?

I'd start with an MRAP and work down from there. Then again, I'm not big on inter- agency cooperation, police helicopters, DHS, and NDAA. Smells too much like Nazi Germany or the Russia, one of which, I've lived in.
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« Reply #514 on: July 17, 2014, 06:01:17 PM »

In the other thread, you mentioned masses of armed and trained bad guys. Some dissonance with this position?
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« Reply #515 on: July 17, 2014, 06:46:42 PM »

In the other thread, you mentioned masses of armed and trained bad guys. Some dissonance with this position?

Not at all. Any seeming conflict I may have is almost certainly derived from who I think should be defending whom.

Some people favor a strong law enforcement presence (which equates to a government with laws that we already know don't work and only affect people that follow those laws - that are far from being free), OR.... to the second amendment's point, "shall not be infringed," at all, ever, regardless of what anyone thinks about it, in order to protect everyone from overzealous "sheep dogs."

You know, I have to laugh every time I see an overweight, lower IQ, out of shape, "protector" that I am completely certain I am more competent than, telling me that I need to surrender my body armor and get his permission to carry, so he can "protect" me. That's probably the dissonance you speak of.
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« Reply #516 on: July 17, 2014, 07:07:03 PM »

In my neck of the woods, a good portion of the population is quite well armed and grew up shooting and is quite supportive of the sheriff who has a very competent SWAT team and an MRAP.  The left coast invaders snivel about the MRAP and the guns that the local population owns.

I'd put both the country boys in law enforcement and the general population around here against sicarios anytime.  The Japanese were said to be concerned about "a rifle behind every blade of grass" on the US mainland during WWII. That description still applies here.
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« Reply #517 on: July 17, 2014, 07:13:36 PM »

In my neck of the woods, a good portion of the population is quite well armed and grew up shooting and is quite supportive of the sheriff who has a very competent SWAT team and an MRAP.  The left coast invaders snivel about the MRAP and the guns that the local population owns.

I'd put both the country boys in law enforcement and the general population around here against sicarios anytime.  The Japanese were said to be concerned about "a rifle behind every blade of grass" on the US mainland during WWII. That description still applies here.

I'm not going to turn this into a pissing contest. You guys have it easy up there. I'm wondering how many police would fold the second someone was cutting off their wife's fingers over the phone? It's a fair question. You guys don't deal with that type of thing at all, don't act like you do...because Hurricane Katrina showed just where some people's hearts are at.... "I'm da protecta!!!" Please.

My point is that this is something that every human should be doing for themselves. We all saw how well Stockton turned out today. I wonder how much that flubber is going to cost? L.A...and newspaper ladies... SWAT? My a..
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« Reply #518 on: July 17, 2014, 07:17:39 PM »

Ps GM... I'm still alive in one of the most evil countries on the planet, doing this.. Not bragging. Just saying I might have a clue as to what I'm talking about. Not saying you don't. Simply saying there is more than one way to look at it, without necessarily being a "criminal."

Some people really don't need you... something police in general are loathe to admit. They'd have to turn in their hero status, and sorry, I'm fresh out of hero status to give.

Where's that picture of the fat, Black, female deputy eating the turkey leg when I need it?
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« Reply #519 on: July 17, 2014, 07:21:36 PM »

The cartels don't do that here because they can't get away with it here. Even in Phoenix, they prey only on criminals. There is a reason for that.

If they get brave enough to try, they will get a reminder about the American talent for organized violence.
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« Reply #520 on: July 17, 2014, 07:25:13 PM »

The cartels don't do that here because they can't get away with it here. Even in Phoenix, they prey only on criminals. There is a reason for that.

If they get brave enough to try, they will get a reminder about the American talent for organized violence.

I'm game. I have long been against writing legislation to protect the stupid, or liberal non hackers.

Got in a fist fight with some Nation of Islam guys once... a long time ago in my past. Afterwards, there was a general understanding of sorts. They told me something that I'll never forget, and for as much as I don't like them, truth is truth; "self reliance." It's served me well. Everyone should adopt that.

Peace. My quarrel is not with you.
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« Reply #521 on: July 17, 2014, 07:27:09 PM »

Sure, law enforcement in the US is a lot safer than other places. Yes, there are a lot of empty uniforms that can slide by because of that, but there are plenty of warriors in the ranks. Lots of young guys on the job who spent their late teens/early 20's getting sand in their boots in much less safe environments.
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« Reply #522 on: July 17, 2014, 07:29:36 PM »

Sure, law enforcement in the US is a lot safer than other places. Yes, there are a lot of empty uniforms that can slide by because of that, but there are plenty of warriors in the ranks. Lots of young guys on the job who spent their late teens/early 20's getting sand in their boots in much less safe environments.

Agreed on both accounts. I am just the type that thinks every one should be doing it for themselves...nothing more, nothing less. I'm glad that we're both still around to discuss this. It's nice to hear from you.   cool
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« Reply #523 on: July 17, 2014, 07:35:40 PM »

In rural America, police response times can be very long, often more than an hour, especially for a response in force. People do and have always been their own first responders out here.
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« Reply #524 on: July 17, 2014, 07:38:13 PM »

In rural America, police response times can be very long, often more than an hour, especially for a response in force. People do and have always been their own first responders out here.

True. I just think they should have access to grenade launchers and fully automatic weapons, all that fun stuff. I love it. It's great.

It would be nice to play a game of online chess with you sometime if you're up to it.

You can even go first.
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« Reply #525 on: July 17, 2014, 07:41:53 PM »

Someday that might just be the case, especially if we ditch the looters and moochers weighting us down.
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