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« Reply #700 on: January 26, 2017, 01:55:42 PM »

If just one out of one thousand votes are from illegals aliens or otherwise illegal or error that is 125 thousand or 2500 per state.  Does anyone rationally think this is not only possible but likely.  And indeed even more likely that that is low ball estimate?

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« Reply #701 on: January 29, 2017, 07:58:24 PM »

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/10/illegal-immigrants-could-elect-hillary-clinton-213216
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« Reply #702 on: February 01, 2017, 10:44:04 AM »

http://disobedientmedia.com/trump-files-with-fec-for-2020-election-bid-outmaneuvers-nonprofit-organizations/
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« Reply #703 on: February 01, 2017, 09:12:10 PM »

This ruling could be the doorway for third party politics to enter the fray in the United States. As some may recall, I spent a bit f time picking them apart a while ago, when I thought that Johnson may have warranted my support.

https://ivn.us/2017/02/01/breaking-federal-judge-rules-presidential-debate-commission/
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« Reply #704 on: February 08, 2017, 11:37:55 PM »

Anyone have anything on this?


https://www.thenation.com/article/house-republicans-just-voted-to-eliminate-the-only-federal-agency-that-makes-sure-voting-machines-cant-be-hacked/
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« Reply #705 on: February 09, 2017, 01:16:22 PM »


It's the end of the world as we know it, but not a big enough story to make the Huffington Post's top 100.  Maybe they're not liberal (or deranged) enough.  Searched voting machines on google news and pointed me back to the same story.  USA Today has a story, link and excerpt below.

My take: 1) Our elections aren't hacked because we don't centralize them.  US elections are divided into partially self governing states, congressional districts and in elections especially - the precinct level.  Cheating in Chicago or Detroit does not affect Minneapolis or Wyoming.  Butterfly ballots didn't turn the result in Ohio.  Recall the Chavez recall election in Venezuela.  He was trailing 40-60 and won 60-40.  Jimmy Carter the the UN watched the local sites while presumably the dictatorship moved the result 40 points at the center point.  Then Colin Powell and Bush certified Carter's report like it was the gold standard.  That doesn't happen here. 

Leftists at places like 'The Nation' scream the loudest when all the machines come from one manufacturer, have the same updates and vulnerabilities:  https://www.thenation.com/article/letters-325/


2) To 'The Nation', the agency is judged by it's good intentions; to conservatives the agency had a purpose that was fulfilled.  Government programs shouldn't live on forever.

USA TODAY: "Republicans have long argued the agency is no longer needed and was only meant to be a temporary agency to dole out $3.1 billion to states to improve election systems after the disputed 2000 presidential election. That money is gone. Democrats, however, argue the EAC is needed now more than ever."  http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/02/07/house-panel-votes-close-election-assistance-commission/97603326/

3) Why didn't Pres. Obama turn the current controversy, imaginary hacking, over to this agency if that is what they are chartered to do and good at?

4) If we closed one of these government solutions agencies every day that step on our 9th amendment, powers left to the people and to the states, there would still be plenty of agencies left to close at the end of 8 years.   MHO.
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« Reply #706 on: February 09, 2017, 01:38:25 PM »

Thank you.
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« Reply #707 on: February 09, 2017, 10:43:33 PM »

http://observer.com/2017/02/dnc-chair-candidate-tom-perez-admits-democratic-primaries-rigged/
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« Reply #708 on: February 17, 2017, 02:52:36 PM »

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/15/nearly-2-million-non-citizen-hispanics-illegally-r/

Between 38,000 and 2.1 million of them... my number is actually higher.

The number of non citizens registered to vote (a crime).... will be telling.
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« Reply #709 on: February 17, 2017, 04:41:49 PM »

DDF,

and this poll was only Latinos.    What about the millions of others who are here illegal or legally but are non citizens who may have registered to vote.

Anyone think there ain't people from Asia or Europe or Africa who are not voting illegally?

There seems no easy way to find this out or else it would be in the open
The Dems like it that way obviously.

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« Reply #710 on: February 17, 2017, 08:13:17 PM »

DDF,

and this poll was only Latinos.    What about the millions of others who are here illegal or legally but are non citizens who may have registered to vote.

Anyone think there ain't people from Asia or Europe or Africa who are not voting illegally?

There seems no easy way to find this out or else it would be in the open
The Dems like it that way obviously.



An excellent point, and one that I used in my original calculations, which may explain for my number being higher. I used the numbers from USCIS and the US Census as my sources, being that they didn't just count Latinos.

Either way, it definitely needs to be investigated, voting machines done away with, paper ballots, voter ID, and civilian, multiparty oversight of vote counting.

Barring that, it's still the adage "garbage in, garbage out."
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« Reply #711 on: February 18, 2017, 09:09:00 AM »

And we can also add to the potential numbers fraud from dead people voting, and those registered in more then one state.

I could not know if the total fraud reaches 2.8 million or so but it HAS to be in hundreds of thousands.
It ain't rare.

If it amounts to just 1 in 200 votes we are talking ~ 600K.   
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« Reply #712 on: February 28, 2017, 11:55:49 AM »

The Ohio Secretary of State has found hundreds of non-citizens registered to vote in the state, with more than a hundred of them, who were found to have cast votes at some time, and 82 of them casting votes in the last election.

http://nbc4i.com/2017/02/27/ohio-secretary-of-state-investigation-found-non-citizens-registered-to-vote-cast-illegal-ballots/

“In light of the national discussion about illegal voting it is important to inform our discussions with facts. The fact is voter fraud happens, it is rare and when it happens, we hold people accountable,” Secretary Husted said.

This is what covering one's rear end looks like. That is several Americans who have had their right to a vote stifled, with even one being too many. We're now talking about more than a 100 known cases, and hundreds registering to vote, which means at a minimum, that the thought of voting has occurred to them.

“I have a responsibility to preserve the integrity of Ohio’s elections system,” Secretary Husted said. “When you consider that in Ohio we have had 112 elections decided by one vote or tied in the last three years, every case of illegal voting must be taken seriously and elections officials must have every resource available to them to respond accordingly.”

"[...]non-citizens who have not cast a ballot will be sent letters both informing them that non-citizens are not eligible to vote and requesting that they cancel their registration. A follow-up letter will be sent to any individuals that still remain on the rolls after 30 days. Any non-citizens identified that remain on the rolls after being contacted twice will then be referred to law enforcement, according to Husted. - Why not immediately?

Ohio's demographics are stated to have  240,699 known non-citizens, with the majority being from Mexico. If the demographics for this register a number this high, for a state that ranks relatively low with illegal alien populations, how many non.citizens (illegal or documented), have voted in states where the non-citizen populations number in the millions - California, Florida, Illinois, New Jersey, New York and Texas? Four of those states voted Democrat, with the other two being very close toss-ups in the last election.

Census data - https://www.census.gov/newsroom/pdf/cspan_fb_slides.pdf

Pew's illegal population numbers - http://www.pewhispanic.org/interactives/unauthorized-immigrants/
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« Reply #713 on: February 28, 2017, 01:48:47 PM »

http://www.westernjournalism.com/report-justice-department-top-drop-opposition-texas-voter-id-law/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=THENewVoiceEmail&utm_campaign=can&utm_content=2017-02-28
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