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« Reply #1200 on: July 18, 2016, 10:16:45 AM »

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/founder-latinas-trump-latinos-will-put-him-over-top-n611281
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« Reply #1201 on: July 19, 2016, 09:10:58 PM »

I am glad Glenn said it because I was thinking the same thing.  No one could be that stupid to copy another speech word for work and use it again without knowing it would be caught:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/07/19/glenn-becks-theory-on-what-really-happened-with-melania-trumps-now-infamous-rnc-speech/
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« Reply #1202 on: July 20, 2016, 12:04:14 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tI2CE2ivxY
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« Reply #1203 on: July 20, 2016, 08:34:26 AM »

A star is born;  WOW, even my favorite hottie Michelle Malkin liked it!:

https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/07/a-gop-star-is-born-donald-trump-jr-rocks-the-convention

Here is the speech:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tI2CE2ivxY
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« Reply #1204 on: July 21, 2016, 07:11:21 AM »

Remember when Bill bragged that we were getting both he AND Hillary - two for one?

Now we are getting 5 for the "price" of one.  Three children one wife as well as DJT.  This is remarkable.  How the family members seem to have so much power.
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« Reply #1205 on: July 21, 2016, 05:14:56 PM »

My impression is that the two sons are worthy members of the team, and will check out the daughter tonight.

As for Melania, she is gorgeous and seems well content to be that and a mom to her children and support to her husband.  Good for her!
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« Reply #1206 on: July 21, 2016, 08:08:29 PM »

https://www.facebook.com/bloodyknucklesoriginal/videos/1097230480329396/
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« Reply #1207 on: July 22, 2016, 04:11:22 PM »

I thought great speech though I missed part of it as I walked the dogs thinking it was almost over.

2 things I noticed

#1  Ivanka said something about single mothers should have child care - my question - at whose expense.

#2  It was certainly weird while accepting the *Republican * nomination for president of the United States hearing him say "I am neither a Democrat or Republican"!!!!   shocked

I go to  Conservative review and all I see is Trump bashing and compliments to Cruz.  To me Mark is off in dream land somewhere.  One now sees first hand why Cruz is so absolutely hated .  Was there even 1 Senate colleague who came out and supported him until it was down to him and Trump?  I don't blame him for not wanting to endorse but he should have not gone to the convention in that case. 
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« Reply #1208 on: July 25, 2016, 08:43:52 AM »

2 things I noticed
#1  Ivanka said something about single mothers should have child care - my question - at whose expense.


Nice catch.  I missed her speech, but Trump's format was a State of the Union speech and the longer those speeches go, the more proposals we get for new federal government programs.  Our 'big government conservatives' (oxymoron) can't attract those votes without surrendering principles to the the left.  Yes single parents need child care in order to work and be self sufficient.  Therefore we need a federal government program?  "Life of Julia".  We need assistance, really a relationship with the federal government at every point in our life from pre-natal to 6 feet under.  This is defied in Article WHAT? in the constitution?

The government is not your husband.  To say out loud, Rule 1 of not being in poverty is to marry before starting a family is to lose votes.  Leftists want to go back to the 50s for marginal tax rates but not for family structure.  And pseudo-Republicans want to emulate Democrats to win votes.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/obamas-julia-ad-and-the-new-hubby-state/2012/05/11/gIQAcRdoIU_story.html
http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/09/opinion/bennett-obama-campaign/index.html

Asking this question in public may win votes, but if you really think this through you will find that a new federal social engineering program is the not best answer.  Designing a perfect life for single mothers to raise children without fathers might not even be asking the right question.
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« Reply #1209 on: July 25, 2016, 08:59:27 AM »

 "To say out loud, Rule 1 of not being in poverty is to marry before starting a family is to lose votes."

So if Trump is so blunt why will he not say this?

I say that tongue in cheek.
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« Reply #1210 on: July 25, 2016, 09:47:49 AM »

Here is my whole-hearted, lukewarm, lesser of evils, unapologetic endorsement of Trump-Pence for President in 2016, and my advice to others on the fence.

I started this as a Rubio supporter.  Trump beat Rubio in his own state, in his own party.  Trump needs Florida to win in November.  Trump needs Rubio -in the Senate.  Rubio needs Trump for turnout in Florida, for Commander in Chief and to sign the badly needed reform in Washington.  America needs bothTrump and Rubio and all of us or else leftism will be permanent.  As unlikely as it seemed a short time ago, this is our team.

These are my biggest objections to Trump (other than his personality) and how he addressed these to win my vote:

1)  He is profoundly wrong on Kelo and private, crony government takings.

2)  He is profoundly wrong on trade.

3)  Trump is not a true, limited government conservative.

(1) On Kelo, his answer was to offer a list of potential Supreme Court picks representing the type of Justices he will appoint.  This is not a promise or a perfect answer but it is a great list that addresses that concern as well as it is possible.  There is a risk that Trump (or any Republican) will make a bad pick and there is the certainty that Hillary will make nothing but bad picks for the Courts from a constitutional conservative point of view.

(2)  On trade, Trump promises to re-open trade agreements bilaterally and get better terms for America.  I am not on the same page as Trump in his view of what has gone wrong.    America can compete with anyone on a level playing field.  Our problems are internal, excess taxation and excess over-regulation. These are both areas that Trump is actively addressing and that Hillary will make worse, much worse.  

Trump promises the new agreements will be better for America.  They are not better if they include high tariffs paid by American consumers, a trade war, a falling economy or a rising cost of living.  He can't let that happen and deliver on his promise.  Trump is willing to threaten tariffs with Mexico, China and others.  The threat must be real but the end point must be no tariff.  If he stands true on his promise, we will win concessions without new tariffs and he will not trigger a trade war or the next Great Depression.

More importantly, the sovereignty loss in "trade" agreements is real and Trump will not give away our country the way President Obama and Hillary Clinton have and would.

(3)  Regarding limited government conservatism, Donald Trump was not among my top 100 choices of the 17 running and those who might have.  Mike Pence, on the other hand, is as good of a limited government conservative as we can hope for in high elective office and he is Trump's pick for his VP choice.  Worst case, no matter how badly Trump governs we are one heartbeat away from a chance at having great, limited government, conservative President.  With Hillary there is no such hope or chance.  Far more optimistically, the Pence pick and other limited government promises such as relief on taxes and regulations are positive indicators of the direction the Trump Presidency will take.

Then there is the Gary Johnson (non-)alternative.  This is a binary choice, Trump v. Hillary.  Johnson is disqualified.  When asked whether it was wrong for the United States to intervene in WWI? In WWII? Johnson's entire answer was, "I don't know"!
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/highlights-libertarian-party-presidential-debate/story?id=39464103
For all our differences over Iraq, Iran, Syria and ISIS, if you don't know the answer to that one at this point in your life and are running for President, you aren't going to be my choice for Commander in Chief!

Hillary Clinton starts this race with 242 electoral votes in hand out of 270 required, the so-called "Blue Wall".  18 states including NY, Calif, etc. and D.C. have gone Democratic in the last six presidential elections. If she loses within these, she has also loses the swing states and loses the election in a landslide. Trump running with Mike Pence will win all the solidly Republican states, more states but less than half the electoral votes.  Gary Johnson and all other minor party candidates combined will win zero states.  Trump-Pence will open the contest in the Midwest, so called rust belt states, and can make Clinton spend resources in NY and NJ.  But mostly, any Republican ticket needs to run the table in the well-known swing states to win.

Anyone who leans at all right, despises Hillary, lives in any contested state, and then does not vote for Donald Trump, the only alternative to Clinton, is securing her election and a permanently leftist, anti-constitutional country.  Sure they say this every year and it's true every year, but the consequences of screwing up this time have never been worse.

Herb Brooks told his gold medal hockey team after they beat the Soviet Union and were facing Finland in the finals, "Lose this one and you will take it to your grave".  Complain about Trump all you want, but sit this one, help Hillary win, and ... ditto ... you will take the consequences of that to your grave.

Trump is far from perfect but there is no acceptable alternative remaining.  You take all that is wrong with Trump or you and your children and your grandchildren will be ruled forever by leftists.   No pressure.

Hillary will open up felon votes, illegal votes, no-ID votes, foreigner votes, maybe pre-school votes, and I barely exaggerate.  All but the last is already in motion. This will be the last close election if we give them four more years to transform the electorate.

This Rubio supporter, almost-never-Trump-type will be voting for Trump-Pence on November 8 with no apologies!
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« Reply #1211 on: July 25, 2016, 04:36:49 PM »

Well said!
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« Reply #1212 on: July 25, 2016, 05:02:21 PM »

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-putin-yes-it-s-really-a-thing
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« Reply #1213 on: July 25, 2016, 08:37:23 PM »

"When asked whether it was wrong for the United States to intervene in WWI? In WWII? Johnson's entire answer was, "I don't know"!"

Well I was thinking just today how the US bailed Europe out twice last century.  And thinking maybe Trump IS on to something.  Europe sure as hell better be carrying their weight with NATO.  Maybe a fresh look at NATO is not such a bad idea.

"Herb Brooks told his gold medal hockey team after they beat the Soviet Union and were facing Finland in the finals, "Lose this one and you will take it to your grave".  Complain about Trump all you want, but sit this one, help Hillary win, and ... ditto ... you will take the consequences of that to your grave."

Yup.  Exactly right Doug.  Our friends at the Conservative and National Reviews better wake the hell up.  And Cruz made a huge blunder.  I don't know what his point was or who he was trying to impress.
He sure  wasn't going to win anybody any new friends with his stunt.  He should have just stayed home.  At least the Bush's know when to be silent.  And Cruz simply does not know how to broaden his appeal.  He is tone deaf from the right like Rhinos are tone deaf from near the center.

We ain't got till 2020.

What do you think Hillary and crew are going to do by pardoning all the illegals.  Millions upon millions more will flood in here and vote for socialism.  Do NOT think many will NOT be voting.  Certainly millions of their natural born children sure will.

Trump may well be able to reach some groups that the Rhinos can or will not reach out to.

We all better hope so.


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« Reply #1214 on: July 26, 2016, 07:13:36 AM »

"Our friends at the Conservative and National Reviews better wake the hell up. "

VDH on National Review states my point better than me (who could have thought that?):

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438296/trump-clinton-obama-matter-degree
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« Reply #1215 on: July 27, 2016, 10:52:45 AM »

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/289361-trump-backs-10-federal-minimum-wage
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« Reply #1216 on: July 27, 2016, 05:17:00 PM »


Hillary will open up felon votes, illegal votes, no-ID votes, foreigner votes, maybe pre-school votes, and I barely exaggerate.  All but the last is already in motion. This will be the last close election if we give them four more years to transform the electorate.


All of you miscalled whether or not Trump would be the nominee.

I do have one question though.... what's your issue with American citizens voting in their elections, as listed above (the felons)? They are American citizens last time I checked.

I'm curious as to why you feel you deserve a voice in your country, but they do not, especially when they're law abiding and pay taxes. The rights only apply to you per your perspective.... massah?

Edit: It occurs to me, that many so called "Americans," are the very tyrannical government that the Constitution was implemented to protect all of us against. That basically means, that if you support anything other than the original constitution, you're the tyranny of evil men.

I'm ok with that. I've been looking forward to this for a while.
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« Reply #1217 on: July 28, 2016, 10:18:56 AM »

Hillary will open up felon votes, illegal votes, no-ID votes, foreigner votes, maybe pre-school votes, and I barely exaggerate.  All but the last is already in motion. This will be the last close election if we give them four more years to transform the electorate.
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I do have one question though.... what's your issue with American citizens voting in their elections, as listed above (the felons)? They are American citizens last time I checked.
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If losing your privilege to vote is one of the lawful penalties of being convicted of a felony or of certain crimes, then one has not fully paid his or her debt when released.  Has this particular penalty been struck down in any court as unconstitutional?  Oddly, it is put forward by Democrats not out of fairness but out of political advantage.  7 out of 10 felons register Democrat:  http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/jail-survey-nearly-34-felons-register-as-democrats/article/2541412
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« Reply #1218 on: July 28, 2016, 10:29:09 AM »

Hillary will open up felon votes, illegal votes, no-ID votes, foreigner votes, maybe pre-school votes, and I barely exaggerate.  All but the last is already in motion. This will be the last close election if we give them four more years to transform the electorate.
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I do have one question though.... what's your issue with American citizens voting in their elections, as listed above (the felons)? They are American citizens last time I checked.
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If losing your privilege to vote is one of the lawful penalties of being convicted of a felony or of certain crimes, then one has not fully paid his or her debt when released.  Has this particular penalty been struck down in any court as unconstitutional?  Oddly, it is put forward by Democrats not out of fairness but out of political advantage.  7 out of 10 felons register Democrat:  http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/jail-survey-nearly-34-felons-register-as-democrats/article/2541412

Interesting that you use the word "privilege." That's what your rights are, are they? "Privileges?"By the way, they've also shown that most wouldn't even bother voting, and this person typing this, would never vote Democrat.

By the way, they have laws against cruel and unusual punishment. Most people buy into that crap. I don't. Even arguing it or discussing it is ridiculous and leads no where.

I don't think I feel like asking your permission for my rights that YOU grant to no one, especially because you fear that it may not lead to the candidate of your choice being elected, and especially while you expect me to work and pay for it through taxes.

I think there was a war started over that once.
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« Reply #1219 on: July 28, 2016, 12:18:03 PM »

Hillary will open up felon votes, illegal votes, no-ID votes, foreigner votes, maybe pre-school votes, and I barely exaggerate.  All but the last is already in motion. This will be the last close election if we give them four more years to transform the electorate.
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I do have one question though.... what's your issue with American citizens voting in their elections, as listed above (the felons)? They are American citizens last time I checked.
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If losing your privilege to vote is one of the lawful penalties of being convicted of a felony or of certain crimes, then one has not fully paid his or her debt when released.  Has this particular penalty been struck down in any court as unconstitutional?  Oddly, it is put forward by Democrats not out of fairness but out of political advantage.  7 out of 10 felons register Democrat:  http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/jail-survey-nearly-34-felons-register-as-democrats/article/2541412

Interesting that you use the word "privilege." That's what your rights are, are they? "Privileges?"By the way, they've also shown that most wouldn't even bother voting, and this person typing this, would never vote Democrat.

By the way, they have laws against cruel and unusual punishment. Most people buy into that crap. I don't. Even arguing it or discussing it is ridiculous and leads no where.

I don't think I feel like asking your permission for my rights that YOU grant to no one, especially because you fear that it may not lead to the candidate of your choice being elected, and especially while you expect me to work and pay for it through taxes.

I think there was a war started over that once.

DDF,  I like hearing your view on this.  I also noticed I chose the word privilege over right, had second thoughts about it as I wrote.  Is it a right or a privilege?  We used to not let 18, 19, 20 year olds vote.  It took a constitutional amendment to change that.  Can you lose a right?  Can a penalty be for a lifetime?

Of course it is controversial and I see your side of it.  A lot of the real 'felons' are never caught, never prosecuted.  A lot of good people are charged or plea to 'crimes' of no real note or victim. Some are innocent and some guilty people reform.  Still we take pride in the rule of law here and the point I made I think explains one side of this issue.
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