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« on: June 17, 2015, 10:15:12 PM »

I know there will be some humorous banter about my opening this thread, especially after what I said yesterday, but I must say I was rather impressed with DT on the Sean Hannity show this evening.

The whole hour was dedicated to the interview with him.

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QUESTION What about ISIS?

ANSWER:  A big part of what makes them effective is they have a lot of money, in great part because of the oil they seized.  Solution?  Bomb the oil fields.   This cuts off their money, and after ISIS falls the oil capabilities can be rebuilt.

My initial reaction to this is a) that is a good insight about the money b) the solution is simple and politically and militarily rather straightforward c) excellent prospects for attitude adjustment around the region and the world.
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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2015, 10:18:35 PM »

His hair is more authentic than Elizabeth Warren's Native American ancestry.
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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2015, 10:25:55 PM »

on the one hand:  http://13cgunreviews.com/

on the other hand, apparently he is against "assault weapons" and wants longer waiting period.
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« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2015, 10:42:49 PM »

Trump and I have a few things in common. One thing is neither one of us will ever be president.
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« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2015, 10:43:09 PM »

Apparently he let some woman touch his hair today to verify it was not a toupe (sp?)
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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2015, 10:14:12 AM »

The ugly tone to his comments about Mexico and Mexicans in his announcement speech will not be forgotten.  If Trump does well, the Reps can kill the Latino vote goodbye forever.
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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2015, 10:47:49 AM »

I like Dana a lot, but she lost composure a bit here.

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2015/06/18/fireworks-on-the-five-dana-perino-flips-out-at-eric-bolling-over-trump-deal-215206
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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2015, 01:50:06 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6R-7-W2W90
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« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2015, 08:45:08 PM »

The ugly tone to his comments about Mexico and Mexicans in his announcement speech will not be forgotten.  If Trump does well, the Reps can kill the Latino vote goodbye forever.



The illegal alien vote is already rock solid dem.
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« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2015, 10:18:35 PM »

A retort not without wit, but the issue remains.  The Latino demographic is growing and the current Rep demographic is declining.

We lost the Latino vote here in CA by passing Prop 187 (for the record I voted for it) and now we are a one party state.
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« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2015, 03:09:47 AM »

So voting for open border chaos on a national level will do what for this country? The same great things it's done for California?
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« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2015, 09:47:18 AM »

Not only is he wrong to call them all criminals

Trump makes a huge mistake about speaking of the "Mexicans".   Many Republicans do the same thing when they speak of Mexicans.  It is about all illegals immigrants where ever they are from.  South Central American, Caribbean, Africa, Europe (50K Irish here illegally one est. in NYC alone), Asia.

The debate need not focus on the *Spanish* speaking ones (though they are the majority).

That would IMO be a good Republican counter to Trump.

BTW Michael Savage just called Trump the "great white hope".   Wow.  Huge mistake.  That gives the left much fodder.
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« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2015, 10:30:34 AM »

The vast majority of illegal aliens in the U.S. are from Mexico.
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« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2015, 11:02:26 AM »

According to this article it is 52%.   My point is if we keep talking Mexicans we sound like we are picking on them.  Why not speak about anyone from anywhere who  doesn't belong here?   I think this will divert this from being an "hispanic" issue somewhat.   If we were on the border with India or Indonesia or Ghana most of the illegals would be them. 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/11/21/7-charts-that-explain-the-undocumented-immigrant-population/
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« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2015, 11:11:19 AM »

How is a demand to enforce the laws of this nation "picking" on someone?
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« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2015, 11:38:01 AM »

Look, everyone here is for strong and decisive enforcement of our border and our laws, so to criticize Trump is not to criticize that.

Go back to Trump's announcement speech and listen to the passage where he speaks about Mexico and the people who come here from there.  It made me cringe.
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« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2015, 12:12:02 PM »

Everything about Trump is cringeworthy. He isn't any kind of leader I am interested in, but I am beyond tired of letting the left enforce newspeak on us.
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« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2015, 09:14:40 PM »

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/danieldoherty/2015/06/23/suffolk-nh-poll-n2016268?utm_source=thdailypm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl_pm&newsletterad=
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« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2015, 05:17:47 PM »

https://www.facebook.com/abcnews/photos/a.10150095914943812.286215.86680728811/10153546333158812/?type=1&theater
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« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2015, 03:23:07 PM »

http://reviveusa.com/trump-rises-to-second-in-iowa-poll/
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« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2015, 03:26:36 PM »

His points about Mexico are not wrong but made very crassly.  If only he were more careful about singling out and categorizing Mexicans the way he did he might score more points.   
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« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2015, 08:40:26 PM »

http://www.newsday.com/news/new-york/donald-trump-s-business-relationships-with-new-york-city-under-review-administration-says-1.10599748
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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2015, 11:28:41 AM »

His points about Mexico are not wrong but made very crassly.  If only he were more careful about singling out and categorizing Mexicans the way he did he might score more points.   

That's right, it was inartful, as they say.  Indelicate.  Within the flood of millions still coming in unchecked are rapists and thieves, etc., even Middle Est terrorists.  That's unacceptable and it will stop immediately after inauguration, he could have said, and not impugn the others for lawbreaking other than coming here illegally.

Maybe it's good that Trump is soaring early in the polls (farther to fall).  He will therefore be on the debate stage until he does fall.  I don't get his popularity, didn't watch any more than a highlight of his show and I hold a personal grudge against because I once paid real money to buy his book, 'how great I am / art of the deal'.  But if he has low information segment appeal, he may draw viewers to the debates, and that is good.  Also good that he is running within the party, not as a 3rd party candidate.  They should all make that promise in order to appear in a GOP debate.  Let whoever should look responsible and Presidential on the stage do so.

Maybe a serious candidate like Carly Fiorina or Bobby Jindal will get left out while Trump takes a seat.  Let them make that case and earn their way in. 
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« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2015, 03:49:40 PM »

MEDIA HIDE FACTS, CALL EVERYONE ELSE A LIAR

July 1, 2015 - www.anncoulter.com


When Donald Trump said something not exuberantly enthusiastic about Mexican immigrants, the media's response was to boycott him. One thing they didn't do was produce any facts showing he was wrong.


Trump said: "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems to us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."


The first thing a fact-checker would have noticed is: THE GOVERNMENT WON'T TELL US HOW MANY IMMIGRANTS ARE COMMITTING CRIMES IN AMERICA.


Wouldn't that make any person of average intelligence suspicious? Not our media. They're in on the cover-up.


A curious media might also wonder why any immigrants are committing crimes in America. A nation's immigration policy, like any other government policy, ought to be used to help the people already here -- including the immigrants, incidentally.


It's bad enough that immigrants, both legal and illegal, are accessing government benefits at far above the native rate, but why would any country be taking another country's criminals? We have our own criminals! No one asked for more.


Instead of counting the immigrant stock filling up our prisons, the government issues a series of comical reports claiming to tally immigrant crime. The Department of Justice relies on immigrants' self-reports of their citizenship. The U.S. census simply guesses the immigration status of inmates. The Government Accounting Office conducts its own analysis of Bureau of Prisons data.


In other words, the government hasn't the first idea how many prisoners are legal immigrants, illegal immigrants or anchor babies.


But there are clues! Only about a quarter of California inmates are white, according to a major investigative piece in The Atlantic last year -- and that includes criminals convicted in the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s, when the vast majority of California's population was either black or white.



Do immigration enthusiasts imagine that more than 75 percent of the recent convicts are African-American? Blacks have high crime rates, but they make up only about 6 percent of California's entire population.


A casual perusal of the "Most Wanted" lists also suggests that the government may not have our best interests in mind when deciding who gets to live in America.


Here is the Los Angeles Police Department's list of "Most Wanted" criminal suspects:


-- Jesse Enrique Monarrez (murder),


-- Cesar Augusto Nistal (child molestation),


-- Jose A. Padilla (murder),


-- Demecio Carlos Perez (murder),


-- Ramon Reyes, (robbery and murder),


-- Victor Vargas (murder),


-- Ruben Villa (murder)


The full "Most Wanted" list doesn't get any better.


There aren't a lot of Mexicans in New York state -- half of all Mexican immigrants in the U.S. live in either Texas or California -- and yet there are more Mexican prisoners in New York than there are inmates from all of Western Europe.


As for the crime of rape specifically, different groups have different criminal proclivities, but no one takes a backseat to Hispanics in terms of sex crimes.


The rate of rape in Mexico is even higher than in India, according to Professor Carlos Javier Echarri Canovas of El Colegio de Mexico. A report from the Inter-American Children's Institute explains that in Latin America, women and children are "seen as objects instead of human beings with rights and freedoms."


All peasant cultures have non-progressive views on women, but Latin America happens to have the peasant culture that's closest to the United States.


The only reason our newspapers aren't chockablock with reports of Latino sexual predators is that they are too busy broadcasting hoax news stories about non-existent gang-rapes by white men: the Duke lacrosse team (Crystal Gail Mangum), University of Virginia fraternity members (Jackie Coakley) and military contractors in Iraq (Jamie Leigh Jones).


In fact, the main way we find out about Hispanic rapists is when the media report on dead or missing girls -- hoping against hope that the case will never be solved or the perp will look like the rapists on "Law and Order." When it turns out to be another Latino rapist, that fact is aggressively suppressed by the media.


New Yorkers were horrified by the case of "Baby Hope," a 4-year-old girl whose raped and murdered body turned up in an Igloo cooler off of the Henry Hudson Parkway in 1991. After a 20-year investigation, the police finally captured her rapist/murderer in 2013. It was her cousin, Conrado Juarez, an illegal alien from Mexico, who disposed of the girl's body with the help of his illegal alien sister.


New York City is the nation's media capital. But only The New York Post reported that the child rapist was a Mexican.


In 2001, the media were fixated on the case of Chandra Levy, a congressional intern who had gone missing. All eyes were on her boss and romantic partner, Democratic congressman Gary Condit. Then it turned out she was assaulted and murdered while jogging in Rock Creek Park by Ingmar Guandique -- an illegal alien from El Salvador.


There was a lot of press when three Cleveland women went missing a decade ago. By the time they escaped in 2013 from the sick sexual pervert who'd been holding them captive, it was too late for the media to ignore the story. The girls hadn't been kidnapped by the Duke lacrosse team, but by Ariel Castro.


Now, get this: While investigating Castro, the police discovered that he wasn't the only Hispanic raping young girls on his block. (All in all, it wasn't a great street for trick-or-treating.)


Castro's erstwhile neighbor, Elias Acevedo, had spent years raping, among many others, his own daughters when they were little girls. The New York Times' entire coverage of that case consisted of a tiny item on page A-18: "Ohio: Life Sentence in Murders and Rapes."


The media knew from the beginning that the monstrous gang-rape and murder of Jennifer Ertman, 14, and Elizabeth Pena, 16, in Houston in 1993 was instigated by Jose Ernesto Medellin, an illegal immigrant from Mexico. But over the next decade, with more than a thousand news stories on that case, the fact that the lead rapist was a Mexican was not mentioned once, according to the Nexis archives.


Only when Medellin's Mexicanness was used to try to overturn his death sentence did American news consumers finally find out he was an illegal alien from Mexico. (After years of wasted judicial resources and taxpayer money being spent on Medellin's appeals, he will now be spending eternity way, way south of the border.)


Who is this media cover-up helping? Not the American girls getting raped. But also not the Latina immigrants who came to the U.S., thinking they were escaping the Latin American rape culture. So as not to hurt the feelings of immigrant rapists, the media are willing to put all girls living here at risk.


No wonder the media is sputtering at Trump. He broke the embargo on unpleasant facts about what our immigration policies are doing to the country.
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« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2015, 06:43:56 PM »

Wouldn't it have been far greater if Trump spouted off all these facts and statistics instead of simply categorizing all illegals as Mexicans and all Mexicans as drug dealers and rapists?

And only sort of grudgingly say that I guess some Mexicans are good people.  And later tell us he loves Mexico and Mexicans?

Just think of the shot across the bow that would have been. 
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« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2015, 06:53:26 PM »

Spouting all of the facts and statistics Ann did in her column cannot be done in a sound bite.  Trump is the master of this - and he's not backing off of it, either.  Good for him.  Rush Limbaugh asked an open question of his listeners today - Is Donald Trump hurting the Republican "brand" with his comments - as so much of the media is claiming?  The overwhelming consensus from his listeners was - "Hell, no!  If anything - Trump is revealing in stark contrast the wimps and cowards the present crop of Republican "leaders" are for refusing to go anywhere near his commentary - much less agree with any of it."  I couldn't agree more.
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« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2015, 09:53:31 PM »

It would appear he is going to stir things up plenty , , ,
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