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« Reply #1550 on: August 25, 2014, 07:54:20 PM »

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140716/METRO01/307160034
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« Reply #1551 on: August 31, 2014, 12:26:55 PM »



http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/08/31/take-a-gander-at-americas-most-heavily-armed-counties-the-ones-that-arent-on-the-map-might-surprise-you/
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« Reply #1552 on: September 03, 2014, 07:45:44 AM »

http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/ed8ad5eb#/ed8ad5eb/65
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« Reply #1553 on: September 05, 2014, 09:15:00 AM »

http://gunssavelives.net/why-i-carry/video-why-i-carry-clerk-shot-in-head-after-complying-with-all-of-armed-robbers-demands-in-ga/
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« Reply #1554 on: September 10, 2014, 12:35:37 AM »

http://defund.com/mob-of-teens-try-to-violently-rob-concealed-carry-holder-get-shot/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
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« Reply #1555 on: September 10, 2014, 09:35:43 AM »


"He fatally shot one of the robbers, a 15-year-old known gang member who was already the victim of another non-fatal shooting on August 1.  The teen had previously been charged with armed robbery, auto theft, theft, and fleeing.  Police have arrested another two 14-year-old males, a 16-year-old male, a 17-year-old female...  Police say this particular group is responsible for multiple armed robberies that have recently hit Milwaukee. Police say the group may be responsible for dozens of robberies over just the past three days. ...The Daily Caller reports that a “similar incident involving a Milwaukee robbery gang occurred in July. A nurse carrying a concealed carry permit shot a 15-year-old assailant as he and a 17-year-old accomplice attempted to steal her car. "


Examples of what the mainstream media, in another context, call "unaccompanied children".  Maybe Homeland Security could help them locate their parents.
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« Reply #1556 on: September 25, 2014, 02:47:56 PM »



http://www.capoliticalreview.com/capoliticalnewsandviews/senator-feinstein-study-shows-she-misleads-on-value-of-assault-weapon-ban/ 
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« Reply #1557 on: September 25, 2014, 02:49:50 PM »

second post of day:

I notice the data starts in 2001.  I wonder what it was in prior decades?

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/25/us/25shooters.html?emc=edit_th_20140925&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=49641193&_r=0
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« Reply #1558 on: October 14, 2014, 12:14:09 PM »

FBI Used Bogus Numbers in Mass Shooting Report

Last month, the FBI released a study on mass shootings since 2000. We looked at the underlying cultural problems, but gun researcher John Lott dug deeper into the actual numbers the FBI used. What he found is astounding. "The FBI counted 160 'mass' or 'active' shootings in public places from 2000 to 2013," Lott wrote. "Worse, it said these attacks rose from just one in 2000 to 17 in 2013. Media outlets worldwide gave the 'news' extensive coverage. Too bad the study is remarkably shoddy -- slicing the evidence to distort the results. In fact, mass public shootings have only risen ever so slightly over the last four decades. While the FBI study discusses 'mass shootings or killings,' its graphs were filled with cases that had nothing to do with mass killings. Of the 160 cases it counted, 32 involved a gun being fired without anyone being killed. Another 35 cases involved a single murder. It’s hard to see how the FBI can count these incidents, which make up 42 percent of its 160 cases, as 'mass killings.'" In other words, it appears the FBI produced a deceptive report that just happens to bolster the gun-grabbing agenda of the Obama administration

more at http://nypost.com/2014/10/12/the-fbis-bogus-report-on-mass-shootings/
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« Reply #1559 on: October 14, 2014, 09:45:37 PM »

FBI Used Bogus Numbers in Mass Shooting Report

Last month, the FBI released a study on mass shootings since 2000. We looked at the underlying cultural problems, but gun researcher John Lott dug deeper into the actual numbers the FBI used. What he found is astounding. "The FBI counted 160 'mass' or 'active' shootings in public places from 2000 to 2013," Lott wrote. "Worse, it said these attacks rose from just one in 2000 to 17 in 2013. Media outlets worldwide gave the 'news' extensive coverage. Too bad the study is remarkably shoddy -- slicing the evidence to distort the results. In fact, mass public shootings have only risen ever so slightly over the last four decades. While the FBI study discusses 'mass shootings or killings,' its graphs were filled with cases that had nothing to do with mass killings. Of the 160 cases it counted, 32 involved a gun being fired without anyone being killed. Another 35 cases involved a single murder. It’s hard to see how the FBI can count these incidents, which make up 42 percent of its 160 cases, as 'mass killings.'" In other words, it appears the FBI produced a deceptive report that just happens to bolster the gun-grabbing agenda of the Obama administration

more at http://nypost.com/2014/10/12/the-fbis-bogus-report-on-mass-shootings/

It's almost like Obama is trying to destroy all faith in American institutions.
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« Reply #1560 on: October 21, 2014, 01:37:38 PM »

Maybe my friend Dr. Donald Miller, with whom I have discussed variations of this, can chime in:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/19/nyregion/mental-reports-put-34500-on-new-yorks-no-guns-list.html?_r=0
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« Reply #1561 on: October 22, 2014, 01:26:23 PM »

http://www.examiner.com/article/anti-gun-missouri-dem-arrested-with-9mm-pistol-refuses-breathalyzer-test
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« Reply #1562 on: October 22, 2014, 02:10:33 PM »



http://bulletsfirst.net/2014/10/20/police-ny-demand-facebook-profile-password-applying-permit/
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« Reply #1563 on: January 04, 2015, 01:23:54 AM »

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/03/us/gun-control-groups-blocked-in-washington-turn-attention-to-states.html?emc=edit_th_20150103&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=49641193&_r=0
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« Reply #1564 on: January 16, 2015, 09:00:44 PM »



Gov. Rick Snyder of Michigan on Thursday vetoed gun legislation that was supported by the National Rifle Association and approved by wide margins in the state’s Legislature, dominated in both chambers by Mr. Snyder’s fellow Republicans.

Mr. Snyder, who was endorsed by the N.R.A. as he sought a second term as governor last fall, had received a flood of pressure from both sides on the two-bill package in recent days, including letters of opposition from Gabrielle Giffords, the former congresswoman from Arizona who was shot in 2011, and Representative Debbie Dingell, a Democrat of Michigan.


Mr. Snyder said the package could allow people accused of domestic abuse to obtain concealed pistol licenses. “We simply can’t and won’t take the chance of exposing domestic abuse victims to additional violence or intimidation,” Mr. Snyder said in a news release. “There are certainly some reforms that can improve the way Michigan issues concealed pistol licenses and we support the rights of law-abiding firearm owners, but it’s crucial that we leave in place protections for people who already have endured challenges and abuse.”


Under current Michigan law, a person who is the subject of a personal protection order may not receive a concealed pistol license, the governor’s office said, while the new measures would have barred such licenses only in cases where that was specifically required by the courts.

Mr. Snyder has irked those in his party before on other issues, at one point urging that the state quickly set up a health care exchange and, at another, vetoing several voting measures including one that called for photo identification to get an absentee ballot.

Mr. Snyder said that he supported some elements of the package, which was aimed at turning the duties of concealed weapons licensing boards over to county clerks and law enforcement authorities. He urged lawmakers to seek new measures to further those elements. Generally, the governor’s spokeswoman said, he considers gun issues an “important balancing act — making sure we’re vigilantly protecting the constitutional rights of the state’s law-abiding firearm owners while also ensuring public safety and security, especially for vulnerable Michiganders.”

Gun rights supporters criticized the decision, saying the new measures had been widely mischaracterized, while advocates for gun control and for victims of domestic violence said the governor had made an essential choice on a question of safety, not partisanship.

Chris W. Cox, executive director of the N.R.A.’s Institute for Legislative Action, said the measures did not expose victims to any additional risks of violence. Under the new measures, someone applying for a personal protection order could check a box seeking that the subject of the order be barred from having a firearm, he noted.

“The fact is that this bill would have provided victims of domestic violence increased protections against would-be abusers, while protecting our constitutional rights of self-defense and due process,” Mr. Cox said in a news release.
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« Reply #1565 on: January 17, 2015, 01:28:30 AM »

http://start.toshiba.com/news/read/category/US%20News/article/afp-130yearold_gun_that_won_the_west_found_in_us_park-afp

Los Angeles (AFP) - US experts are scratching their heads after finding a more than 130-year-old Wild West rifle leaning against a Juniper tree in a remote area of a national park.

The Winchester Model 1873 firearm was found in Great Basin National Park in Nevada by a park employee, Eva Jensen, who happened to be working in the area with an archaeology team.
Exposed for years to the elements, the rifle's cracked wood stock was "weathered to gray," while the brown rusted barrel "blended into the colors of the old Juniper tree," officials said.
Tucked into a remote rocky outcrop, the rifle appeared to have remained "hidden for many years," they added in a statement.
The gun's serial number indicates that it was made and shipped in 1882. But beyond that it remains a mystery.
"Who left the rifle? When and why was it leaned against the tree? And why was it never retrieved?" the statement said, adding that experts were poring over old newspapers and family histories to search for where it may have come from.
The Winchester Model 1873 rifle holds a prominent place in local history -- referred to as "the gun that won the West."
Some 720,610 were manufactured between 1873 and 1916 when production ended.
The gun was not loaded when it was found, but would have held .44-40 caliber ammunition when in use.

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« Reply #1566 on: January 17, 2015, 11:51:47 AM »

Good to see you posting here again  cool
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« Reply #1567 on: January 18, 2015, 12:42:22 PM »

What say we to this?
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BOULDER, Colo. — JUST after Christmas, Veronica Rutledge of Blackfoot, Idaho, took her 2-year-old son to a Walmart store to spend holiday gift cards. As they strolled by the electronics section, according to news reports, the toddler reached into his mom’s purse and pulled out a handgun that she legally carried. He pulled the trigger once and killed her.

The previous month, a 3-year-old boy in Washington State was shot in the face by a 4-year-old. Earlier, a 2-year-old boy in Pennsylvania shot and killed his 11-year-old sister.

About 20 children and teenagers are shot daily in the United States, according to a study by the journal Pediatrics.  Indeed, more preschool-age children (about 80 a year) are killed by guns each year than police officers are killed by guns (about 50), according to the F.B.I. and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.  This toll is utterly unnecessary, for the technology to make childproof guns goes back more than a century. Beginning in the 1880s, Smith & Wesson (whose gun was used in the Walmart killing) actually sold childproof handguns that required a lever to be depressed as the trigger was pulled.

“No ordinary child under 8 years of age can possibly discharge it,” Smith & Wesson boasted at the time, and it sold half-a-million of these guns, but, today, it no longer offers that childproof option.

Doesn’t it seem odd that your cellphone can be set up to require a PIN or a fingerprint, but there’s no such option for a gun?

Which brings us to Kai Kloepfer, a lanky 17-year-old high school senior in Boulder, Colo. After the cinema shooting in nearby Aurora, Kloepfer decided that for a science fair project he would engineer a “smart gun” that could be fired only by an authorized user.

“I started with iris recognition, and that seemed a good idea until you realize that many people firing guns wear sunglasses,” Kloepfer recalls. “So I moved on to fingerprints.”

Kloepfer designed a smart handgun that fires only when a finger it recognizes is on the grip. More than 1,000 fingerprints can be authorized per gun, and Kloepfer says the sensor is 99.999 percent accurate.  A child can’t fire the gun. Neither can a thief — important here in a country in which more than 150,000 guns are stolen annually.

Kloepfer’s design won a grand prize in the Intel International Science and Engineering Fair. Then he won a $50,000 grant from the Smart Tech Challenges Foundation to refine the technology. By the time he enters college in the fall (he applied early to Stanford and has been deferred), he hopes to be ready to license the technology to a manufacturer.

There are other approaches to smart guns. The best known, the Armatix iP1, made by a German company and available in the United States through a complicated online procedure, can be fired only if the shooter is wearing a companion wristwatch.


The National Rifle Association seems set against smart guns, apparently fearing that they might become mandatory. One problem has been an unfortunate 2002 New Jersey law stipulating that three years after smart guns are available anywhere in the United States, only smart guns can be sold in the state. The attorney general’s office there ruled recently that the Armatix smart gun would not trigger the law, but the provision has still led gun enthusiasts to bully dealers to keep smart guns off the market everywhere in the U.S.

Opponents of smart guns say that they aren’t fully reliable. Some, including Kloepfer’s, will need batteries to be recharged once a year or so. Still, if Veronica Rutledge had had one in her purse in that Idaho Walmart, her son wouldn’t have been able to shoot and kill her.

“Smart guns are going to save lives,” says Stephen Teret, a gun expert at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. “They’re not going to save all lives, but why wouldn’t we want to make guns as safe a consumer product as possible?”

David Hemenway, a public health expert at Harvard, says that the way forward is for police departments or the military to buy smart guns, creating a market and proving they work.

An interfaith group of religious leaders is also appealing to gun industry leaders, ahead of the huge annual trade show in Las Vegas with 65,000 attendees, to drop opposition to smart guns.

Smart guns aren’t a panacea. But when even a 17-year-old kid can come up with a safer gun, why should the gun lobby be so hostile to the option of purchasing one?

Something is amiss when we protect our children from toys that they might swallow, but not from firearms. So Veronica Rutledge is dead, and her son will grow up with the knowledge that he killed her — and we all bear some responsibility when we don’t even try to reduce the carnage.
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« Reply #1568 on: January 18, 2015, 01:10:51 PM »

I am all for it if it is not forced via more regulations to all gun owners. 

So if demand is so great why does not S & W make a modern version?

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« Reply #1569 on: January 18, 2015, 05:42:46 PM »

When seconds count, your smart gun is onlyminutes away from functioning.
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« Reply #1570 on: January 18, 2015, 08:12:27 PM »

"When seconds count, your smart gun is onlyminutes away from functioning."

Yes.  One could only hope you grip the handle correctly so it "reads" you prints.  Or you have your wireless device near you to unlock the electronic safety like keyless entry into one's vehicle.

Doesn't sound so smart to me......

Eighty children dying a year is sad.  But I don't see the logic behind making 100,000,000 gun owners risk their lives and jump through regulatory hoops to say reduce this number to say 40.
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« Reply #1571 on: January 19, 2015, 11:10:05 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51clP7JRqv8
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« Reply #1572 on: January 20, 2015, 10:45:02 PM »

http://www.mississippigunnews.com/interstate-transportation-of-firearms-and-ammunition-bill-introduced/?utm_content=bufferd395b&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer
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