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Crafty_Dog
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« Reply #350 on: June 26, 2016, 04:19:02 PM »

"This will be an interesting convention.  Whatever happens, Ted Cruz is quite simply the most amazing leader the Republican Party has produced since Reagan as far as im concerned. http://politistick.com/freethedelegates/ "
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« Reply #351 on: June 27, 2016, 09:52:40 AM »

I like Caroline Glick, but I'm not sure if that linked matched up with the subject.  Here is an older piece:
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Our-World-Ted-Cruzs-American-restoration-442831
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"Iím not going to speculate now only because you all know the situation may change by this afternoon, let alone between now and the convention.Ē  Scott Walker, free the delegates

   - True, but DT is mostly likely to gradually improve (slightly) as a candidate between now and the election.

"several hundred GOP delegates are planning a revolt against Trump, and to select a unifying candidate who can actually defeat Hillary Clinton."

    - No such thing (unifying candidate who can actually defeat Hillary Clinton) under these circumstances to persuade the 30-40% who prefer Trump to get behind a different guy who did not win in the primary process.

"Whatever happens, Ted Cruz is quite simply the most amazing leader the Republican Party has produced since Reagan as far as im concerned"

    - Cruz is more conservative than Reagan but as a leader: he failed to bring any Senators with him to the right (Mike Lee was already there), he failed to consolidate the primary vote on the right losing perhaps half of it to Trump, and failed to even try to reach out at all to the center and pull them to the right.  It turned out the other way around, the center started reaching out to him as the last alternative to Trump and he failed to woo more from the center than Trump or to successfully 'prosecute' Trump's candidacy, like Christy did to Rubio, when it came down to the Trump-Cruz head to head.  The final straw was Indiana.  Trump was wrong on the economic case he was making there.  Cruz had organization, plenty of money, a limited market size, a conservative state, and the head to head matchup that he sought for so long and could not, did not, make the case.  Now we go forward trying to defeat Hillary and the left stuck using the wrong economic arguments.  We would have better off without Ted Cruz in the race and without him in the race next time too.  He was part of what choked out support for others who might have gone further, IMHO.
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« Reply #352 on: June 27, 2016, 11:43:06 AM »

Fair points all.  I simply found it interesting the consciousness of Ted reached her to conclusions similar to those of Glenn Beck.
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« Reply #353 on: June 29, 2016, 10:44:52 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDu2fWId8CA
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« Reply #354 on: July 14, 2016, 11:24:42 AM »

https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/07/2016-cruz-effect-ensured-conservative-gop-platform
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« Reply #355 on: July 21, 2016, 07:22:30 AM »

According to Mark Levin.  Mark who I like a lot and usually agree with offers his opinion , one which I highly disagree with here.  IMHO this is just a bad political mistake.  It does nothing but offer help to Hillary and her side.  It does nothing to make Cruz look better and just angers those who already don't like him and does make him look more like "lyin" Ted then someone standing on principle.
In the end I don't think anyone is going to vote or not vote for Trump based on Cruz's refusal to endorse.  But him saying vote your conscious when he knows full well the choice is Trump or Clinton. What is that supposed to mean?  If he was to rightly insulted by Trump partly because of Trump's disgusting insults to his wife in the early campaign then he should have just stayed home.  Like the Bush family who are staying home - and rightly so.  Trump's personal insults are inexcusable.  If we say family first that means family first .  Party second.  Just my 2 cents.  I think Levin in trying to be too "true" in ideology  sacrifices good political and strategic sense:

https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/07/cruz-stays-true
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« Reply #356 on: July 21, 2016, 07:28:46 AM »

Even representative King states what many feel about Cruz's performance and he really hated Trump. 

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rep.-peter-king-cruz-more-of-a-disgrace-now-than-ever/article/2597207
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« Reply #357 on: July 21, 2016, 08:50:27 AM »

To be fair, Cruz's classless appearance was preceded by Trump being classless in the way he defeated Ted Cruz for the nomination.  That doesn't mean this was the right answer.

Ted Cruz never was the right guy for the job.  He did remarkably well to take second place.  Second place deserves a prime spot on the podium - for the purpose of bringing the different factions together.

The party's nominee owns the convention.  Cruz' petulance makes Trump looks gracious for letting Cruz have the podium and say whatever he wanted to say.  

Kasich wouldn't go to the convention in his own state.  Rubio videotaped it in - as if he hadn't set aside this week for traveling to Cleveland or didn't want to speak in front of a crowd.  I'm disappointed in Rubio too but at least he gave his support to the nominee and the ticket with strong and persuasive reasons.  This has been a lousy process in a year where the table was set for success.  Oddly, it was Trump who set the bad tone and Trump who they feared wouldn't support the party's ultimate nominee.

Take a close look at the Pence speech if you want an example of what a true conservative can find as positives on the Trump side of a Hillary-Trump matchup.  Hillary is the status quo for everything that is wrong.  Judged by his actions of putting out a list of possible Supreme Court nominees, a rock-solid VP choice, his tax plan, his border security plan, his calling out of ISIS for what they are, Trump is something completely different and better than Hillary and the status quo in nearly every direction and dimension.  If you are Ted Cruz and are too bruised by the ugly primary process to see that or say that, decline the opportunity to speak.

Every speaker at a convention may be trying to boost themselves by boosting the nominee.  Ted Cruz did neither, committed 'political suicide'.  Win, lose or draw for Trump this year, Ted Cruz will never unite this party.
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« Reply #358 on: July 21, 2016, 05:25:57 PM »

Good analysis.

Yes Trump started it with his adolesscent disrespect of Cruz's wife, and his "Lyin' Ted" campaign, but Cruz blew it big time last night.
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« Reply #359 on: July 21, 2016, 07:59:55 PM »

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438154/cruzs-stand-conservatism-lion-ted&source=gmail&ust=1469211828279000&usg=AFQjCNEsxiSrqZpeV9mMgV5-W0hVOMD5iQ?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily%20Trending%20Email%20Reoccurring-%20Monday%20to%20Thursday%202016-07-21&utm_term=NR5PM%20Actives

"Donald Trump insulted Cruzís wife, (presumably) planted false tabloid stories about him in the National Enquirer, and suggested, completely baselessly, that his father might have been involved in the assassination of President Kennedy. Beyond these outrageous personal insults, it is clear that Trumpís conservatism, such as it is, has little in common with the limited-government, pro-federalism conservatism of Senator Cruz."

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