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« Reply #200 on: May 25, 2011, 05:01:00 PM »

That BO was, once again, turning on an ally. 

Also, he misdescribed the SCOTUS 8th Amendment ruling on CA prison population.

Overall, I thought the theme of the day's show to be sound, but the Catch 22 of his analysis of Pakistan and the sloppiness of his description of the 8th amendment case irked me.
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« Reply #201 on: May 25, 2011, 05:03:02 PM »

Lots of prominent commentators do not have the dedication to detail found here.
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« Reply #202 on: May 26, 2011, 12:35:25 AM »

Lots of prominent commentators do not have the dedication to detail found here.

And they are getting hundreds of thousands, millions of dollars...   huh
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« Reply #203 on: May 26, 2011, 01:41:03 AM »

"Lots of prominent commentators do not have the dedication to detail found here."

Around here we search for Truth.

The Adventure continues!
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« Reply #204 on: May 26, 2011, 03:02:38 PM »



http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/05/26/why-are-people-silent-as-old-hatreds-rise-again/
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« Reply #205 on: May 31, 2011, 04:47:37 PM »

GB posts this as evidence of a hypothesis of his.  Makes sense to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdI0A1KLKmM&feature=player_embedded
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« Reply #206 on: June 01, 2011, 01:15:48 PM »


http://www.rollcall.com/issues/56_131/-206085-1.html?pos=hln

Lolita Mancheno-Smoak, an immigrant from Ecuador who once dreamed of becoming her country’s president, has found an unlikely home in the tea party movement.
 
When she launched her campaign for county school board last week at Brion’s Grille in Fairfax, Va., she was not alone — flanked by immigrants from Europe, Asia and Latin America who have joined tea pascrty groups in the face of unrelenting criticism that the movement is isolationist and anti-immigrant.
 
Mancheno-Smoak, who started attending tea party meetings in February, is one of several immigrants running for local office in Virginia under the tea party banner.
 
Tito Muñoz, a Colombian immigrant who owns a construction company and won the nickname “Tito the Builder” as a vocal supporter of Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) in 2008, is running for Virginia Senate. Jo-Ann Chase, a Puerto Rican, says she is the first Latina candidate for a state House seat.
 
In Northern Virginia, many of the immigrants who have gravitated to the tea party have roots in socialist countries and are intensely afraid that the U.S. is headed down the same path. They embrace the tea party’s small government, socially conservative messages and say the only immigration they are for is the legal kind. They don’t bat an eye when it comes to the movement’s tough anti-illegal-immigrant rhetoric.
 
Muñoz hosts a one-hour Spanish language radio show called “America Eres Tu” broadcast Saturday afternoons on WURA 920 AM out of a trailer in Dumfries, Va.  He prints copies of the Constitution in Spanish and answers questions about U.S. politics from those who are new to the country.
 
“If the immigrants understood what was happening in America there would be a revolt against those politicians,” said Muñoz, who became a citizen in 2008. “Obama’s talking one way and doing another and the Hispanics do not know about that hanky-panky.”
 
He has launched a state political action committee, TitoPAC, and a federal 527 called the Conservative Hispanic Coalition, to fund his run for state Senate.
 
“Why do immigrants leave their country? Because they don’t have opportunity and they don’t have freedom, because politicians control everything,” he said. “We come to America and we are going to have the same crap? Then we might as well go back there.”
 
Genaro Pedroarias, the national committeeman of the Republican National Hispanic Assembly of Virginia, said the tea party is a natural fit for many of northern Virginia’s immigrants from countries like Bolivia, Ecuador and Nicaragua.
 
“Most Hispanics who come to this country come here to flee socialistic and oppressive regimes,” said Pedroarias, who is Cuban. “They are some of the most vibrant members of the tea party.”
 
Lin Dai Kendall, who left Honduras when she was 33, blames the U.S. immigration system for persistent unemployment among those who are here legally. She’s part Chinese, part Spanish and part Hispanic and doesn’t hesitate to call President Barack Obama a Marxist.

 
“These people want to call themselves progressive; I call them regressive,” Kendall said. “What is immoral to me is standing there with my hand out waiting for the government to support me.”
 
Vera Martin moved to the U.S. from what is now the Czech Republic when she was 5 years old. Now, she is hitting the campaign trail for her husband, who is running for state Senate, and Mancheno-Smoak.
 
“I come from a socialist country,” said Martin, who worked for a consulting firm that helped her country’s transition to capitalism after the fall of the Communist Soviet Union. “I know what socialism means. I know what socialized health care is like and I know what you pay to support that system.”

 
Latinos voted for Obama over McCain by a margin of more than 2-to-1 in 2008, according to the Pew Hispanic Center. But his failure to deliver on his promise for comprehensive immigration reform has many feeling disheartened.
 
Muñoz and tea party-affiliated immigrants said the news media are just as complicit as the politicians, casting the tea party as anti-immigrant and racist – which he calls lies and propaganda.
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« Reply #207 on: June 05, 2011, 02:23:00 PM »

Glen has announced that his last day on Fox will be June 30th.

I look forward to where he goes and what he does next! 

The Adventure continues!
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« Reply #208 on: June 05, 2011, 03:59:56 PM »

This was a very long, very slow exit for someone who according to early liberal reporting was tossed out on his ass.  Somehow I will guess that his affiliation with Fox will continue.  Also I expect his 3 hour per day, 15 hours per week radio show will continue, the third highest rated show in the nation.  (Plus an internet site.)  So worst case he will fade from sight about like Rush Limbaugh did when he left television in the mid-1990s, and is still considered the right's most influential person.
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« Reply #209 on: June 07, 2011, 05:28:07 AM »



Glenn Beck is planning to charge his fans a monthly subscription for his daily talk show online starting this summer, as he makes the move from being a Fox News host to the owner of his own Internet network.

Glenn Beck's new Internet venture avoids violations of his exit agreement with Fox News.

On Tuesday, Mr. Beck will announce a first-of-its-kind effort to take a popular — but also fiercely polarizing — television show and turn it into its own subscription enterprise. It is an adaptation of the business models of both HBO and Netflix for one man’s personal brand — and a huge risk, as he and his staff members acknowledged in interviews in recent days.
“I think we might be a little early,” Mr. Beck said of his plan for the Internet network, called GBTV, which will cost $5 to $10. “But I’d rather be ahead of the pack than part of it.”

The business decision by Mr. Beck’s company, Mercury Radio Arts, hinges on an expectation that more and more people will figure out how to view online shows on their TV sets through set-top boxes and video game consoles — and that they will subscribe directly to their favorite brands.

Eventually, Mr. Beck said, his goal is to have an array of scripted and unscripted shows alongside his own daily show, which will simply be titled “Glenn Beck” and will run for two hours on weekday afternoons.

“If you’re a fan of Jon Stewart, you’re going to find something on GBTV that you’re going to enjoy,” Mr. Beck said. “If you’re a fan of ‘24,’ you’re going to find something on GBTV that you’re going to enjoy.”

What GBTV will not be, he and his associates emphasized, is a news channel.

Mr. Beck is leaving the Fox News Channel, a unit of the News Corporation, on June 30 after two and a half years of regular clashes with management. One Fox executive, Joel Cheatwood, is moving with him to GBTV; Mr. Cheatwood, who started at Mercury in April, will be the Internet network’s president for programming.

Mr. Cheatwood said he was attracted by the chance to pioneer “a different platform of media.” The Web, he said, “really is where the growth exists.”

GBTV will be accessible starting Tuesday when Mr. Beck talks about it on his three-hour radio show (which he will keep doing). One of its first features will be a behind-the-scenes show about the making of the network, somewhat akin to the behind-the-scenes show on Oprah Winfrey’s cable channel about the final season of her syndicated talk show.

Then, on Sept. 12, “Glenn Beck” will begin. The two-hour show will be scheduled for 5 p.m. Eastern time, the same time as Mr. Beck’s current show on Fox, putting him in direct competition with whoever replaces him at the cable news channel. But because it will stream only over the Internet, and not be shown on television, it is not a violation of his exit agreement with Fox. And Mr. Beck’s representatives note that the show will be available on-demand on the Internet, further reducing the competitive element.

The on-demand nature of an Internet network was one of the appeals to Mr. Beck and the president of Mercury, Chris Balfe.

Also appealing, Mr. Balfe said, was not having to worry about whether the shows that lead into and out of Mr. Beck’s show have “exactly the same sort of tone.” (That was perceived to be a problem at Fox, since Mr. Beck’s conservative sermons and speeches at 5 p.m. were followed by a straightforward political newscast at 6 p.m.)

The lead-in and lead-outs do not matter, Mr. Balfe said, because “we’re not trying to keep viewers, we’re trying to please subscribers.”

Mr. Beck pointed out another potential advantage: “It’s my network, so if I want the show to run 2 hours and 15 minutes one night, it will.”

Fox has declined to comment about what program or host will replace Mr. Beck in the 5 p.m. time slot.

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In 2009, Mr. Beck more than doubled the ratings in the time slot when he moved to Fox from HLN, a unit of Time Warner that was previously known as Headline News. But he also created many headaches for Fox, and the split, announced in April, was said to be mutual.

The exit agreement between Fox and Mr. Beck is so strict that his representatives said they could not talk about Fox in any detail. But Mr. Balfe said of the Internet network plan, “I think if we were still at Headline News at this point, we would have been thinking about leaving at the end of this deal and creating our own thing. This wasn’t about being at Fox, this was about doing something different.”
Earlier this year, at the same time Mr. Beck and his representatives considered starting a full-fledged Internet network, they considered taking over part or all of a cable channel. Mr. Balfe said some informal conversations about such a takeover took place this spring. He did not rule out such a move in the future, but there are no indications that Mr. Beck has any immediate television plans, beyond the occasional special.

To power GBTV, Mr. Beck’s company has teamed with MLB Advanced Media, the interactive arm of Major League Baseball, which streams hundreds of games to online users each year. It also has a deal with Clear Channel, its radio partner, to promote the online network.

GBTV will cost $4.95 a month for subscribers who want to watch only Mr. Beck’s two-hour show, and $9.95 a month for subscribers who want access to all of GBTV. “We want to create a network that has more than just Glenn’s show,” Mr. Balfe said, talking generally but ambitiously about acquiring scripted programming in the future — assuming enough subscribers sign up to justify the costs.

Richard Greenfield, a media analyst for BTIG Research who was briefed on Mercury’s plans, said that while “GBTV may sacrifice the near-term financial rewards that working in the traditional ecosystem provide, full ownership — no longer beholden to the content gatekeepers at the major media companies — and complete creative control to exploit content across all platforms globally could create far more value over time for Glenn and his company.”
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« Reply #210 on: June 08, 2011, 05:42:32 PM »



http://www.gbtv.com/
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« Reply #211 on: June 08, 2011, 05:44:29 PM »

Any comment on it's expected success or failure?
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« Reply #212 on: June 14, 2011, 11:20:25 PM »

Glenn is in his final few weeks and is summarizing the themes with which he has been working these past few years before moving on to the next step in his mission.   Some really good stuff every day.

Today some powerful stuff on sexual slavery for infidel women and in a very separate matter an interesting aside about the underlying strategy to putting former Congressional budget maven Panetta in charge of DoD-- it is to prepare the way for major cuts.
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« Reply #213 on: June 28, 2011, 09:30:28 AM »

"Any comment on it's expected success or failure?"

It will succeed to some extent, but not take over the world.  I think he may be right about the format which I think is view extremely current internet content to the television, as easy as downloaded movies, and who needs cable tv or dish anymore.

Official start is 9/12, but content over the summer in advance of that as well.

Want it to succeed?  Send him money, 50 or 100 dollars buys a full year of content.  New ventures succeed by taking in money...

I believe it is the 3rd rated national radio talk show.  He can promote content and viewership 3 hours a day, 15 hours a week nationwide to people who already show an interest.

(While you are at it, send money to the tea party candidate of your choice.  They all need increasing numbers of contributors as well as dollars to survive and succeed.)

Freedom isn't free.


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« Reply #214 on: June 30, 2011, 11:13:13 AM »

Of all the details surrounding the liberal mob attack on Glenn Beck and his family in New York's Bryant Park last Monday night, one element stands out. "No, it won't be like that, Dad," his daughter said when Beck questioned the wisdom of attending a free, outdoor movie showing in a New York park.

People who have never been set upon by a mob of liberals have absolutely no idea what it's like to be a publicly recognizable conservative. Even your friends will constantly be telling you: "Oh, it will be fine. Don't worry. Nothing will happen. This place isn't like that."

Liberals are not like most Americans. They are the biggest pussies on Earth, city-bred weaklings who didn't play a sport and have never been in a fight in their entire lives. Their mothers made excuses for them when they threw tantrums and spent way too much time praising them during toilet training.

I could draw a mug shot of every one of Beck's tormentors, and I wasn't there.

Beck and his family would have been fine at an outdoor rap concert. They would have been fine at a sporting event. They would have been fine at any paid event, mostly because people who work for the government and live in rent-controlled apartments would be too cheap to attend.

Only a sad leftist with a crappy job could be so brimming with self-righteousness to harangue a complete stranger in public.

A liberal's idea of being a bad-ass is to say vicious things to a conservative public figure who can't afford to strike back. Getting in a stranger's face and hurling insults at him, knowing full well he has too much at risk to deck you, is like baiting a bear chained to a wall.

They are not only exploiting our lawsuit-mad culture, they are exploiting other people's manners. I know I'll be safe because this person has better manners than I do.

These brave-hearts know exactly what they can get away with. They assault a conservative only when it's a sucker-punch, they outnumber him, or he can't fight back for reasons of law or decorum.

Liberals don't get that when you're outnumbering the enemy 100-1, you're not brave.

But they're not even embarrassed. To the contrary, being part of the majority makes liberals feel great! Honey, wasn't I amazing? I stood in a crowd of liberals and called that conservative a c**t. Wasn't I awesome?

This is a liberal's idea of raw physical courage.

When someone does fight back, liberals transform from aggressor to victim in an instant, collapsing on the ground and screaming bloody murder. I've seen it happen in a nearly empty auditorium when there was quite obviously no other human within 5 feet of the gutless invertebrate.

People incapable of conforming to the demands of civilized society are frightening precisely because you never know what else such individuals are capable of. Sometimes -- a lot more often than you've heard about -- liberals do engage in physical violence against conservatives ... and then bravely run away.

That's why not one person stepped up to aid Beck and his family as they were being catcalled and having wine dumped on them at a nice outdoor gathering.

No one ever steps in. Never, not once, not ever. (Except at the University of Arizona, where college Republicans chased my assailant and broke his collarbone, God bless them.)

Most people are shocked into paralysis at the sight of sociopathic liberal behavior. The only ones who aren't are the conservative's bodyguards -- and they can't do anything without risking a lawsuit or an arrest.

My hero Tim Profitt is now facing charges for stopping a physical assault on Senate candidate Rand Paul by a crazed woman disguised in a wig.

But the disturbed liberal whose assault Profitt stopped faces no charges -- she instigated the entire confrontation and then instantly claimed victim status. In a better America, the cop would say, "Well, you provoked him."

Kentucky prosecutors must be very proud of how they so dutifully hew to the letter of the law (except in the case of Paul's assailant).

Maybe they wouldn't be such good little rules-followers if they ever, just once, had to face the liberal mob themselves. But if Beck's own daughter can't imagine the liberal mob, I suppose prosecutors can't be expected to, either.

Michael Moore and James Carville can stroll anywhere in America without risking the sort of behavior the Beck family experienced. But all recognizable conservatives are eternally trapped in David Dinkins' New York: Simply by virtue of leaving their homes, they assume a 20 percent chance of being assaulted.

Bullying is on the rise everywhere in America -- and not just because Obama decided to address it. It's because no one hits back. The message in our entire culture over the last two decades has been: DON'T FIGHT!

There were a lot fewer public confrontations when bullies got their faces smashed.

Maybe it's time for Beck to pony up some of those millions of dollars he's earned and hire people to rough up the liberal mob, or, at a minimum, to provide a legal defense to those like Profitt who do.

These liberal pukes have never taken a punch in their lives. A sock to the yap would be an eye-opening experience, and I believe it would do wonders.

They need to have their behavior corrected. It's a shame this job wasn't done by their parents. It won't be done by the police.

As long as liberals can't be normal and prosecutors can't be reasonable, how about a one-punch rule against anyone bothering a stranger in public? Then we'll see how brave these lactose-intolerant mama's boys are.

Believe me, liberal mobbings will stop very quickly after the first toilet-training champion takes his inaugural punch.
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« Reply #215 on: June 30, 2011, 11:14:17 AM »

second post of the morning.

Just a reminder.  Tonight is Glenn's last night on FOX.  Should be a humdinger!
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Glenn's Fox Finale Tonight…What’s Next?
You have enjoyed watching Glenn take on liberals, progressives and even radical leftists for the last two and a half years at 5pm on Fox News. From the corruption at ACORN to the Czars to Van Jones, Glenn exposed the left's agenda and routinely flustered the White House in the process. Glenn's Fox Finale tonight marks the end of a history making program, but far from the end, this also marks the beginning of something even bigger: GBTV.

What is GBTV? GBTV is a live, streaming video network that will feature a wide variety of programming, but most important it is the brand new home of Glenn's daily 5pm-7pm live show. The place to find everything you loved about Glenn on TV, plus a lot more. Glenn's show will expand to two hours a night, five nights a week and be streamed live in HD exclusively on GBTV.

How do I get GBTV? GBTV goes wherever you do. From your laptop to your desktop to your iPad, iPhone or television (via a Roku device), GBTV is always available. No more faking illnesses to ensure you're home to watch Glenn. If you've got Internet access, you've got GBTV – live or on demand whenever you want to watch.

Join GBTV! If you are one of the many who have become tired of calling your Congressman and getting no result - GBTV is the place for you. GBTV is not just a place to view shows you love; it's a way to get involved and to turn ideas into action. The sensational scandals and partisan bickering will be left to others and GBTV, led by the viewer, will move forward and find real solutions. Get in on the ground floor and get started turning this country around - without the help of the federal government.

TUNE IN TONIGHT: Tune in to GBTV tonight at 6:30 pm ET for a special GBTV broadcast and get a sneak peek into Beck's most ambitious project yet.
 

Welcome to GBTV. The Truth Lives Here
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« Reply #216 on: June 30, 2011, 05:41:37 PM »

Of all the details surrounding the liberal mob attack on Glenn Beck and his family in New York's Bryant Park last Monday night, one element stands out. "No, it won't be like that, Dad," his daughter said when Beck questioned the wisdom of attending a free, outdoor movie showing in a New York park.

People who have never been set upon by a mob of liberals have absolutely no idea what it's like to be a publicly recognizable conservative. Even your friends will constantly be telling you: "Oh, it will be fine. Don't worry. Nothing will happen. This place isn't like that."

Liberals are not like most Americans. They are the biggest pussies on Earth, city-bred weaklings who didn't play a sport and have never been in a fight in their entire lives. Their mothers made excuses for them when they threw tantrums and spent way too much time praising them during toilet training.

I could draw a mug shot of every one of Beck's tormentors, and I wasn't there.



If the gloves ever come off.....The left better hope they don't.
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« Reply #217 on: July 01, 2011, 09:41:57 AM »

Beck Bids Adieu

Posted By Arnold Ahlert On July 1, 2011 @ 12:13 am In Daily Mailer,FrontPage | 5 Comments

Yesterday was Glenn Beck’s last day on Fox. In his run there, which began in 2008 after Fox hired him away from rival network CNN, Mr. Beck was a lighting rod for relentless progressive vitriol. Perhaps only George W. Bush and Sarah Palin have been subjected to more criticism than the controversial TV and radio host. Yet despite the controversy, Beck leaves behind a solid legacy in two arenas: his attention to the far-left’s alliance with Islamic radicalism, and his exposure of the breathtaking degree of leftist radicalism that permeates the Democratic Party.

Beck has done yeoman’s work with regard to exposing radical Islam, as demonstrated by a a six-part series of videos (available here, here, here, here, here and here). In fact, Beck’s ongoing exposés of that radicalism remain unmatched by most in the mainstream media. Yet when Beck offered his rationale connecting Muslim radicals with the “hard-core socialist Left,” he was not only taken on by the Left, but conservatives as well. For instance, the Weekly Standard’s Bill Kristol accused Beck of “hysteria,” and National Review’s Rich Lowry called it a “well-deserved shot.”

The leftist/Islamist alliance is in fact quite ubiquitous and there are many disturbing examples of it that Beck took care to document. The radical leftist group Code Pink, which has forged ties with Hamas, did indeed spend time in early 2011 agitating in Cairo and at the Egyptian Rafah crossing, a border which many Egyptians believe Mubarak closed because he was a pawn of the Israelis. It was Code Pink founder Jodie Evans, along with leftist Weather Underground terrorists Bernadine Dohrn and Bill Ayers, who helped organize last year’s Free Gaza Movement which launched the “peace” flotilla attempting to break the Israeli blockade of Gaza. This year’s 11-ship flotilla, with the same objective, includes a boat named the “Audacity of Hope” and carries American leftists, including author Alice Walker, who this week called Israel and America “terrorist states” (as the Iranians do). Beck also created a video montage of leftist organizations mingled with Islamic radicals, all promoting the same anti-Semitic message. Ironically, that video begins with Chris Matthews mocking Beck for making the connection.

Yesterday, on the same day Beck’s Fox career was coming to an end, he may have received one of the more satisfying vindications of his assertions: Commentary Magazine reported that the Obama administration is reversing a five-year ban on contact with the Muslim Brotherhood. That would be the same Muslim Brotherhood which spawned Hamas, whose charter is dedicated to the destruction of Israel and calls for the extermination of Jews. “We believe, given the changing political landscape in Egypt, that it is in the interests of the United States to engage with all parties that are peaceful, and committed to non-violence, that intend to compete for the parliament and the presidency,” said Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Perhaps Beck is equally vindicated by another revelation which occurred recently. Left-wing Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), despite assertions that his statements had been “mischaracterized” by the Syrian media, was caught praising President Bashar Assad as a man “thinking about the different ways that would be the best way to address the needs of the people…And frankly, that’s a positive development.” How has Assad been addressing the needs of his people? By gunning them down in the streets for daring to stand against his thug regime. Over 1,400 men, women and children have been murdered so far.

Glenn Beck also made the Left hysterical when he took on one of its cherished icons, George Soros. Beck contended that Soros has a five-step plan to bring down America, a charge which was greeted with contempt. One of those steps, according to Beck, was to “control the airwaves.” Once again, Beck was vindicated when an in-depth Fox report revealed that Soros “has ties to more than 30 mainstream news outlets–including The New York Times, Washington Post, the Associated Press, NBC and ABC.”  The breadth of Soros’ media connections are explained in great detail, but nothing sums up his influence better than this:

Readers unhappy with Soros’ media influence might be tempted to voice concerns to the Organization of News Ombudsmen–a professional group devoted to ‘monitoring accuracy, fairness and balance.’ Perhaps they might consider a direct complaint to one such as NPR’s Alicia Shepard or PBS’s Michael Getler, both directors of the organization. Unfortunately, that group is also funded by Soros.

The response to Beck’s efforts to expose Soros were characterized as anti-Semitic, with Daily Beast columnist Michelle Goldberg calling them an “updated Protocols of the Elders of Zion.” ADL leader Abraham Foxman piled on as well, calling Beck’s coverage of Soros’ actions as a boy during the Holocaust (when he aided Nazis in the confiscation of Jewish property) as “completely inappropriate, offensive and over the top.” Yet a 60 Minutes interview with Steve Kroft is where this information originated, and most of the controversy surrounding the interview has to do with Soros’ near-sociopathic lack of guilty for his conscription: “No feeling of guilt?” asked Kroft. “No,” said Soros. “There was no sense that I shouldn’t be there. If I wasn’t doing it, somebody else would be taking it away anyhow. Whether I was there or not. So I had no sense of guilt.”

Of course, Beck’s exposure of the control of the far-left over what’s left of the Democratic Party, facilitated immensely by Soros, was monumental. From Obama’s czars, such as dedicated Marxist Van Jones and the FCC’s chief diversity czar and Hugo Chavez sympathizer Mark Lloyd, to the president’s spiritual advisor and self-admitted Marxist Rev. Jim Wallis, Beck has sought to shine the light on the assortment of radical elements that form the basis of this administration and its defenders.


For that he has been routinely excoriated by the American Left, various elements of which have actively worked toward or endorsed the abridgment of Beck’s free speech. Even to the end, as yesterday’s piece in the Baltimore Sun indicated, there will be no letup. Writer David Zurawik stated that Glenn Beck ”will leave a TV legacy of reckless, divisive and ugly speech in his wake,” and that “he and Fox News should both feel some shame for the harm they have done to the national political discourse — how they have taken an hour of dinnertime each weeknight and used it to help polarize us with paranoid and angry words.”

Despite such obtusely hyperbolic detractors — who consistently and bizarrely level more vitriol and hysteria toward Beck than the very “hate” they purport to despise him for — Beck remains popular.  Even with a forty percent drop-off from his ratings high-water mark, Beck’s remained the most popular show on cable news in his time slot, with almost two and a half times the number of viewers as his closest rivals, CNN’s Wolf Blitzer and MSNBC’s Chris Matthews. And contrary to published reports that he was fired, Beck is leaving Fox because his contract is up, and his business and creative teams at Mercury Radio Arts prefer to get out from under the grind of producing his 5 p.m. show amid the corporate bureaucracy “where most ideas must be generated, spelled out in pitches, run by producers, budgeted, then run by more producers, approved by senior executives, etc.”

His next venture, GBTV, will be a web-based TV network, with two hour shows broadcast on weekdays from 5-7 PM EST, beginning on Sept. 12th. The show will also be available on demand. Subscriptions will cost $4.95 per month for access just to the show, or $9.95 for premium member access to all of the site’s programming. Advertising will provide additional revenue. “Lots of people are talking about the digital content revolution, but few are willing to risk it all and place a huge bet on the future,” said Christopher Balfe, President & COO of Mercury Radio Arts in a statement. “With GBTV, Mercury is doing just that. Fortunately, our incredible team at Mercury, as well as our industry-leading business partners, makes me confident that we will once again build something extraordinary.”

On his last show, Beck explained the reasons for his success. “I contend that is the reason we are successful here…because it’s true,” he said last night. “It seems as though there’s no truth anywhere anymore. We’ve made a lot of enemies on this program. We’ve taken on every single person we’ve been told not to take on…because the truth has no agenda. It will lead us where it leads us. This show has not only survived; we have thrived.” He then explained where he was going. “I have given up on admiring the problem. I am focused solely on the solution…I’m running to something. I know exactly where I’m supposed to be.”

Will Beck remain a controversial figure? Undoubtedly. Yet despite his well-publicized foibles, Beck was more than willing to take on the sacred cows of political correctness and their defenders, often by the most devastating method possible:


Their own words.

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« Reply #218 on: July 01, 2011, 10:24:56 AM »

Good riddance. 

He was fired.  Even Fox couldn't take him anymore.

I predict his next venture at GBTV a web-based TV network will fail within one year.
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« Reply #219 on: July 01, 2011, 10:36:09 AM »

Yes, good riddance.

Can't have anyone pointing out the leftist-jihadist alliance or the communists in the white house, can we?
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« Reply #220 on: July 01, 2011, 02:35:08 PM »

Fox couldn't take him being 2.5 times the size audience of his nearest competitor?  Sure , , ,  rolleyes

IMO Beck is quite a remarkable man, someone whom I respect greatly.
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« Reply #221 on: July 01, 2011, 02:42:57 PM »

"Good riddance.  He was fired"

Not in the too distant future we will all be saying the same for Brock.

He can travel the world and wine and dine with his wife on their dime.
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« Reply #222 on: July 01, 2011, 03:15:29 PM »

"Beck is quite a remarkable man, someone whom I respect greatly."

That has been pretty well known on the board.  The ad hominem attack didn't seem necessary.  Discussing or criticizing specific points he makes would be far more helpful.  Otherwise when you don't like someone, the channel changer works pretty well.

If "he was fired" was the whole truth, the delayed exit didn't make very much sense either.  Most people "fired" find the door rather quickly.  But truth isn't crucial when the attack is emotional and against the person.

The prediction OTOH was asked for.  Now we need to know what failure means if it includes being first in your slot and winning 2 1/2 times the audience share of your nearest competitor.
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« Reply #223 on: July 01, 2011, 03:58:59 PM »

Beck noted in his closing comments that if he had been fired, they would not have trusted him with a Live show, which they did.  He also noted various points well before the announcement that the show was coming to an end that he clearly stated that he was not interested in doing what he was doing for much longer and would be moving on to the next chapter in his life/mission.

Given the pressure of the Soros conspiracy on advertisers and Fox, I would not be surprised if Fox did not beg him to stay, but that is different than Fox firing him.

As for how long his next venture will last or how successful it will be, time will tell.  GB's trust in his own instincts to go well outside the box have served him pretty far so far.  It took extraordinary vision and huge testicles to call for that 8/28 rally in DC -- and look how that turned out.  Look how his ratings, even after their decline from their peak, turned out.  And, if we judge a man by his enemies, GB is a class act and a great American.



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« Reply #224 on: July 01, 2011, 05:49:13 PM »

Odd, on this forum liberal commentators/politicians are frequently open to ad hominen attacks, but not conservatives? 

As for being fired, well let's say he was shown the door by Fox and it hit him in the butt on the way out;
then the door clicked locked.  No offer to stay. Even the niceties were ignored.  Yep, he was so disliked
even conservative "Fox couldn't take him."  That says a lot.

Failure means your own employer doesn't want you.  Failure means no other channel want's you either.  As I said,
I'm betting failure - at GBTV, a web-based TV network, he will be a bust in less than one year.  Time will tell.

As I said, good riddance. 

As for the same happening to Brock in the not "too distant future", well again, I say time will tell....
He might surprise you and win.   grin
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« Reply #225 on: July 04, 2011, 01:11:10 PM »

Hello America,

 
It’s been a crazy couple of weeks, filled with endings and beginnings. I ended my show on cable news and I have launched a new digital network – GBTV. I have been traveling the country and the globe in support of Israel and planning my upcoming event there, Restoring Courage. My team and I have launched new websites, books and businesses. I haven’t stopped, I haven’t had the chance. Until today.
 
Today is an important day in our country's history – probably the most important. But what lessons can we take away from the 4th of July? Like so many national holidays, we barely have a moment to think about what the day really means. Sure, it’s the day we declared our independence from Britain – but it’s much more than that. It was the beginning of the great American experiment.
 
When those 56 men gathered to declare our Independence on July 4th, 1776 they weren’t just saying no to British rule – they were saying no to all rulers. They were declaring the beginning of the great American experiment, which sought to answer the question “Can man rule himself?”
 
 
 
Even with all the hardships and troubles facing America, I still believe the answer is “YES”! And I say that as emphatically and enthusiastically as I possibly can. Man CAN rule himself – and we are going to prove it together!
 
If you’re reading this then you probably know a lot about what I am working on – but ultimately my goal is to prove that we have not failed in the goals set forth by our Founders so many years ago on July 4th. Everything I’ve been working on has been done with the intention on giving you the tools, the history, and the information you need to be self-reliant.
 
Last Thursday, GBTV subscribers got to see me announce the latest piece, a non-profit initiative that I am calling “Mercury One.” It will focus on putting Americans like you into action – helping one another without government interference or tax dollar support. Together we will fix America – one town, one person, one entrepreneur at a time.
 
This Fourth of July – remember the importance of what our Founders started all those years ago. Remember the great American experiment!
 
Laos Deo,

 
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« Reply #226 on: July 11, 2011, 10:21:55 PM »

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/beck-reruns-beat-cnn-msnbc/
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« Reply #227 on: July 18, 2011, 03:22:59 PM »

A Jew Thanks Glenn Beck

Posted By Ben Shapiro On July 18, 2011 @ 12:45 am In Daily Mailer,FrontPage | 9 Comments

Since Glenn Beck’s dramatic rise to prominence two years ago, he has been portrayed by many members of the left as a kook.  The members of the left condemning Beck most loudly, to my utter dismay, have been Jews.  Jon Liebowitz, aka Jon Stewart, has dedicated his show to mocking Beck as a religious freak and a nut job; in his episode on Beck’s departure from his Fox News show, Stewart donned Beck-like glasses and then scoffed, “Glenn Beck was sent here by Jesus to take the 5:00 p.m. slot between Neil Cavuto and Shepard Smith for 27 months.”  Rob Eshman of the atrocious Los Angeles Jewish Journal said that Beck’s expose of self-hating Jew and anti-Israel fanatic George Soros was “the verbal equivalent of a Der Sturmer cartoon.”  Abe Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League, which spends far less time targeting radical Muslims who want to murder Jews than commentators who love Israel, condemned that same Beck vs. Soros episode as “completely inappropriate, offensive, and over the top.”  The Jewish Funds for Justice, a far-left Jewish organization, ran a full-page ad in the Wall Street Journal taking on Beck.

Let me say this: I stand with Glenn Beck, and against these Jews.

Glenn Beck is a friend of Israel.  He is a friend of the Jewish people.  And anyone who argues otherwise is either lying or ignorant.

Beck possesses a moral clarity with regard to the Jewish State that has no equivalent in the leftist Jewish community.  He recognizes that Israel’s conflict with the Palestinians is not a conflict over land or over population exchange, but over fundamental values.  This week, Beck travelled to Israel, where he spoke eloquently about the Fogel family butchered in its sleep by Palestinian terrorists earlier this year.  “There’s something bigger than politics here,” he stated.  “I don’t think in my lifetime I’ve seen a more clear definition of evil that has been dismissed.”  In fact, Beck dedicated several segments on his Fox News show to explicating the Fogel family slaughter, exposing the American people to the true face of moral monstrosity as embodied by the Palestinians who celebrate such murders.

In his speech to the Knesset, Beck explained that he understood the conflict between Israel and anti-Semites the world over:  “I got my first death threat, because I came back and said the truth – the conflict is about the destruction of Israel and the end to the Western way of life …. What’s disturbing is that if a guy gets on television or the radio and says the truth, and that’s so unusual, then Israel and the Western way of life are in great danger.”

More impressive than his speech to Knesset is the fact that Beck does tell the truth to the American people about the Israel situation.  Too many on the conservative side of the aisle – Israel supporters! – will not label the conflict in pure moral terms.  They grant legitimacy to President Obama’s attempts to leverage Israel into concessions, or to the mad musings of Thomas Friedman, who believes that a few bucks can buy off Palestinian radicals.  They pretend that if the conditions are made just right, then peace will be achieved.


Beck, on the other hand, sees the conflict as it is, in its stark contrast between the forces of light and the forces of darkness.  And he stands with the forces of light in that battle.  “Where you go, I will go,” he told Knesset, quoting the Book of Ruth.  “Where you lodge, I will lodge.  Your people are my people.  Your God is my God, and where you die I shall die.”

Israel has never had friends like Glenn Beck before the religious conservative movement in America.  Jews are afraid to embrace Beck because he is so overtly religious, so utterly unafraid of mentioning God in public or with regard to Israel.  That that is why Jews should embrace him.  The Judeo-Christian notion of God is the unifying factor between America and Israel.

Beck sees the war, even though many Jews do not.  Some Jews are too cosmopolitan for Beck – Jon Stewart, for example, doesn’t bear any great love for Israel, since that would presumably be “ethnocentric” and unprogressive.  Some Jews are too parochial, like Eshman, thinking that Beck represents an old-school religion that will result in pogroms, or at the least, closed country clubs.

Those Jews are dead wrong.  Beck is an ally, and a very real one.  He represents millions of Americans who ally with Israel and the Jews.  Jewish Americans ought to roll out the welcome mat to Beck.  He’s certainly rolled out the red carpet for Israel.
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« Reply #228 on: July 18, 2011, 07:21:19 PM »

Second post, posted here because of connection to Tea Party

The Debt Battle Is Good for the GOP
Tea party Republicans speak for a large group of voters who have been swinging back and forth between the parties for more than a decade..

 By CLARK S. JUDGE
Watching the debt-ceiling battle on Capitol Hill—and even more the battle between the tea party young guns and older House Republicans—feels like déjà vu, or, rather, 1995, all over again.

Sixteen years ago, in the middle of the government shutdown, I found myself racing up Capitol Hill in a car filled with Republican congressmen. I had expected to hear talk of standing firm, of arguing their case for spending cuts on the House floor, of raising banners with bright, bold colors.

As I'd learned from years in the Reagan White House, confidence, clarity and consistency were essential to winning such high-stakes showdowns. Instead, these seasoned politicians were wringing their hands, snapping at any stalwart suggestion, and asking, "How did we get ourselves into this mess and how do we get out?"

Then-House Speaker Newt Gingrich takes criticism to this day for surrendering too quickly in his face-off with President Bill Clinton. Exhibit One has been the incredulous jubilation of Clinton staffers when Mr. Gingrich accepted an offer they regarded as the start of serious bargaining, not the end. But the speaker was dealing with what I saw in that car ride up the Hill—a majority that could not hold. Too many members were melting under White House and, even more, media heat. Raising the white flag reflected no more than a bow to reality. The GOP retreat could be orderly or chaotic. Mr. Gingrich prevented panic.

Today, again, the GOP caucus is divided, but with a difference. The tea party freshmen are insisting on a strong negotiating stance. They want real spending cuts without tax increases. House Majority Leader Eric Cantor has become their voice in the budget talks. Reflecting uncertainty about holding non-freshmen in line, both Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and Speaker John Boehner have signaled readiness to accept cosmetic compromises.

Mr. Boehner in particular is responding to House members desperately in search of cover from fallout over the president's threat to delay Social Security checks if the debt ceiling isn't raised. Many are terrified of Democratic attack ads painting them as would-be destroyers of Medicare. The GOP defeat this May in the special election in New York's 26th District shook them, which is a sign of how badly they've defended their positions.

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.After all, if Social Security tax receipts don't cover all the checks in any month, the Social Security Trust Fund can sell its government bonds, bills and notes, as Sen. Jim DeMint (R., S.C), recently suggested. The holdings are enormous, and sales, even at a discount, could cover the system's needs for years, much less the time to finish budget parlaying.

So, if the checks stop coming, it will be the president who decided to stop them. That's not a hard message to get across.

Meanwhile, messaging on Medicare should be in Republicans' favor, not against them. Without reform, the system is doomed—and sooner than used to be thought, thanks to the half-trillion-dollar cuts written into Mr. Obama's health-reform legislation last year.

So, if Democrats don't like the budget reforms proposed by House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, they should propose something else. There will be lots of ideas put on the table before this is done. Medicare's only enemy is Dr. No, those who say "no" to exploring any reforms—and Dr. No is the role congressional Democrats and the administration are playing today.

Congressional tea party Republicans hold a stronger hand than anyone realizes. They speak for a large group of voters who have been swinging back and forth between the parties for more than a decade, determined the last three elections, and are likely to determine the 2012 outcome.

As early as 2005 at least one pollster—Kellyanne Conway—reported that part of the Bush 2004 vote was becoming disaffected over revulsion at federal spending. After the 2006 GOP debacle, then Republican National Committee Chairman Ken Mehlman told his troops they had got out their vote, which, as he said, then voted for the other guys.

Those same voters stayed with the other guys in 2008. But by 2010, the new Obama administration's multiple trillion-dollar bailouts and stimulus packages had driven them back toward the GOP, with one hitch. They still didn't trust the party and its officeholders.

The national tea party movement is just the most vocal element in this much larger wave. By and large, polling has not captured it. Pollsters follow the movements of demographic groups or the changing preferences of party loyalists and independents. They typically do not try to identify something like Bush voters of 2004 who became Obama voters in 2008 and GOP House voters in 2010. The tea party is the first broadly based American political insurgency since California's Proposition 13 in the 1970s. Sure, its fervor will make the old guard uncomfortable, but intensity is what the GOP needs.

In short, the tea party movement is Reaganism updated. A contest has been fought over and over in Washington since Republicans embraced cutting tax rates and nondefense spending under Ronald Reagan in the early '80s. When Republicans have united behind these priorities, they have won elections. Nervous Republicans should bear that in mind when they begin to go wobbly on something as basic as reining in spending and refusing to raise taxes. And achieving that unity has always been difficult.

Global markets must receive a clear signal that Washington has the political will to reduce spending radically. If market jitters over U.S. government debt do not convince congressional Republicans that, in the days ahead, they should hold firm for spending cuts, politics should.

Mr. Judge is managing director of the White House Writers Group and chairman of Pacific Research Institute. He was a speechwriter and special assistant to the president during the Reagan administration.

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« Reply #229 on: July 19, 2011, 06:59:33 AM »

**Perhaps Mr. Weiner should have listened to GB's advice on a lot of things......

http://theothermccain.com/2010/05/20/everybody-should-buy-gold-even-if-glenn-beck-gets-paid-to-tell-you-so/

Everybody Should Buy Gold, Even If Glenn Beck Gets Paid to Tell You So

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Look, the Dow Jones Industrial Average lost more than 300 points today, and the DJIA is down more than 1,130 points since closing at 11,205 on April 26. The Greek debt crisis is pulling down the European economy, more than 700 U.S. banks are now on the FDIC “troubled” list, and concern about a “double-dip” recession is becoming mainstream. Now, let’s look at this chart of gold prices over the past five years:



If you were investing in real estate or plowing your 401(k) into stocks five years ago, don’t you wish you’d bought gold instead? Yet according to Democrats, it is somehow wrong for Glenn Beck to tell you about this, because his advertisers happen to share the same opinion:


“On numerous occasions, Glenn Beck has dedicated entire segments of his program to explaining why the U.S. money supply is destined for hyperinflation with Barack Obama as president. He will often promote the purchase of gold as the only safe investment alternative for consumers who want to safeguard their livelihoods. When the show cuts to commercial break, viewers are treated to an advertisement from Goldline . . .”

If you’re a Beck fan, you know that the guy who is trying to make this into a “scandal” is Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-Ouchenozzle), and that Beck has responded by launching a new Web site, WeinerFacts.com.
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« Reply #230 on: July 19, 2011, 08:20:02 AM »

Nothing wrong with gold, but Goldline seems like a scam.  Just google it.

But then Glenn Beck always did have problems keeping quality advertisers. 

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201104070011

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« Reply #231 on: July 19, 2011, 08:22:52 AM »

Nothing wrong with gold, but Goldline seems like a scam.  Just google it.

But then Glenn Beck always did have problems keeping quality advertisers. 

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201104070011



You want to cite George Sauron's (Soros) propaganda wing? How exactly is Goldline a scam?
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« Reply #232 on: July 19, 2011, 08:42:37 AM »

Just read the article; tell me the numbers don't make sense.

Beck and Goldline? Well it is a conflict of interest.  Or should we accept the fact he is merely a huckster?

As for Goldline being a scam, sorry, it doesn't pass the smell test. 
Given all your many choices on where and how to buy gold, why Goldline?
I suggest somewhere else.

Goldline - just a few thoughts.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/20/glenn-becks-sponsor-goldl_n_652766.html

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/07/glenn-beck-goldline/

http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/goldline-international-c171810.html

http://www.trustlink.org/Reviews/Goldline-International-Inc-205959000
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« Reply #233 on: July 19, 2011, 08:43:23 AM »

http://www.capitalresearch.org/pubs/pdf/v1293869054.pdf

A little education for you, JDN.
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« Reply #234 on: July 19, 2011, 09:00:46 AM »

**Oh my god! Glenn Beck dared to accept advertising money from a company with an A+ rating from the Better Business Bureau. This eeeeeeevil company sold gold to consumers which in some cases has doubled in value since they bought it. The horror!

http://www.la.bbb.org/business-reviews/Gold-Silver-and-Platinum-Dealers/Goldline-International-Inc-in-Santa-Monica-CA-35002328




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« Reply #235 on: July 19, 2011, 09:19:16 AM »

Now JDN, if you want to condemn Glenn Beck, look at his connections to a convicted felon who helped buy him a house in exchange for his political influence.










Oh, wait. I was thinking of Obama and Tony Rezko. Nevermind.
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« Reply #236 on: July 19, 2011, 12:55:58 PM »

I listen to some of the nation's no. 3 radio show (Glen Beck) and I hate the gold selling commercials.  Gold is defense and a (often smart) bet against the the dollar and the success of the US and the world economy.  It is an unproductive investment for capital on the sidelines instead of pumping it into plant expansion, new hiring, venture capital, S&P, DOW, corp. bonds, etc.  There are times hopefully coming where you don't want your money in gold or your commercials in gold selling.

The reason they are on is because political hyper-partisanship drove off the other companies.  The ads should be more Pepsi, Budweiser, Target, whatever, except the left is organized and shrill and creates a firestorm when publicly held companies put money there.

One notable exception is the locally based sleep number company.  Not politically conservative management but they partner with Rush all these years because they like selling beds to his audience.  Turn to liberal radio and they partner there too.

The shrill crowd would love to find something unsavory with Goldline, maybe they will.  Another tack they could take would be to walk the walk on free speech.
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« Reply #237 on: July 20, 2011, 10:43:10 PM »



http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/07/20/glenn-becks-christains-united-for-israel-keynote-speech/
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« Reply #238 on: July 22, 2011, 01:31:31 AM »

Good riddance. 

He was fired.  Even Fox couldn't take him anymore.

I predict his next venture at GBTV a web-based TV network will fail within one year.

I listen to a good deal of talk radio: Rush, Bortz, Savage, even Hannity. I can't take Beck. Sometimes these other guys are obviously twisting facts or following the party line to a level I can't understand, but Beck takes it to a point of self mockery. I just can't believe him. He is almost as disingenuous as Anton Lavey.
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« Reply #239 on: July 22, 2011, 02:33:45 AM »

Good riddance. 

He was fired.  Even Fox couldn't take him anymore.

I predict his next venture at GBTV a web-based TV network will fail within one year.

I listen to a good deal of talk radio: Rush, Bortz, Savage, even Hannity. I can't take Beck. Sometimes these other guys are obviously twisting facts or following the party line to a level I can't understand, but Beck takes it to a point of self mockery. I just can't believe him. He is almost as disingenuous as Anton Lavey.

I've never heard Bortz, but I can't handle Savage for more than a few minutes. Beck is good when his co-hosts are having fun, but when he gets teary-eyed, I have to bail.
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« Reply #240 on: July 22, 2011, 02:48:20 AM »

You should download some Neil Bortz if you like that kind of thing. He is probably the best out of the lot as far as being intelligent and reasonable.
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« Reply #241 on: July 26, 2011, 10:48:39 AM »

And people still wonder why he was fired.


Glenn Beck hits 'new low'; compares Norway victims to Hitler Youth
July 25, 2011 |  3:41 pm  LA Times

Glenn Beck, who in June aired his final cable tv show on Fox News, is still on the radio and has found a new way to get his name into the headlines around the globe.

Instead of calling the president of the United States a racist, Beck focused on the scores of young people gunned down at a camp in Norway. Beck said the camp reminded him of Adolf Hitler's infamous Hitler Youth.

"There was a shooting at a political camp, which sounds a little like, you know, the Hitler youth. I mean, who does a camp for kids that's all about politics? Disturbing," Beck stated in the first minute of his syndicated radio show Monday.

Torbjørn Eriksen, the former press secretary to Norway's prime minister, was not amused.

"Young political activists have gathered at Utoya for over 60 years to learn about and be part of democracy, the very opposite of what the Hitler Youth was about," Eriksen told The Daily Telegraph. "Glenn Beck's comments are ignorant, incorrect and extremely hurtful," he added.

To answer Beck's question of "who does a camp for kids that's all about politics?": Caroline Shinkle does. The recent high school grad founded Camp USA two years ago. The free, nonprofit, nonpartisan political camp in Cape Cod, Mass., is designed for middle-schoolers.

According to its website, Camp USA aspires to have kids leave the camp "with knowledge, confidence, and eagerness to be politically involved."

Conservative columnist Jeff Lukens created a political camp in Tampa, Fla., which aligns itself closer to "tea party" values.  One of the games described by the St. Petersburg Times would surely make presidential hopeful Ron Paul smile.

"Children will win hard, wrapped candies to use as currency for a store, symbolizing the gold standard. On the second day, the 'banker' will issue paper money instead. Over time, students will realize their paper money buys less and less, while the candies retain their value," the newspaper explained.
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« Reply #242 on: July 26, 2011, 10:56:06 AM »

"And people still wonder why he was fired."

I still wonder if you are brain damaged, a liar or both.
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« Reply #243 on: July 26, 2011, 11:00:10 AM »

Don't know about my brain  grin  (let's not get too personal here) but the words are Glen Beck's.  And he was fired. 
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« Reply #244 on: July 26, 2011, 11:04:09 AM »

Don't know about my brain  grin  (let's not get too personal here) but the words are Glen Beck's.  And he was fired. 

Yes, let's take a quote out of context and dishonestly spin it. Typical of you and your ilk.
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« Reply #245 on: July 26, 2011, 12:36:54 PM »

OK, so what is the full context, sans spin?
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« Reply #246 on: July 26, 2011, 01:04:24 PM »

"Typical of you and your ilk..."
Hahaha
Politics without spin? I'm not sure that exists these days.
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« Reply #247 on: July 26, 2011, 06:32:12 PM »

Also waiting for context and full quote.  These quotes of talk show hosts always seems to come after the fact from people who did not hear the program.  Typically people listening live took no offense, but then the words get clipped and framed by opposition opportunists.  'Whither on the vine' and 'Barack the magic negro' come to mind.

I disagree with the premise of nearly everyone in media that it is relevant, interesting or worthwhile to know the political views of the mass murderer.  If he was liberal, conservative, moderate, had an identical voting record all his life to mine or even was a family member, he still is a mass murderer.  What the hell difference do his 'views' make, he blew up public buildings and opened fire on innocent people!

That said, if everyone else is going to discuss everything about everything regarding so-called motivation, then some observations unflattering about the victims are possible.  These people deserve respect and a period of silence IMO before their own cause needs to come to light.  But if there is going to be free and instant dialog everywhere, even here, then criticism of their cause and their own behavior may come into the discussion.  And if it does, one should not need to say in every sentence that while you disagree with or have suspicions of their cause, you do not condone mass murder.  In civilized society, that goes without saying.

JDN, I'd rather not discuss the victims, but what was Hitler like in his youth?  What were the Hitler's youth programs like?  Did they kill at the conferences or did they just talk about how to control other people and re-make society in their own vision.  I'll bet they had a bunch of bland platitudes (like hope and change).  I am still waiting for documentation that Beck was fired - with 6 months notice.  Repeating over and over doesn't count - 'sounds a little like' what Goebbels would do.  Strange that they play Beck's re-runs after his departure, not really sharing the good-riddance theme with you, lol.  Do words (like 'Fired!') have no meaning? I don't watch the TV but when Trump says 'You're fired!',  do they stay on the program another season, lol?
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« Reply #248 on: July 26, 2011, 08:31:34 PM »

I too am awaiting for context and the full quote.  All I have now is a direct quote from Beck.  Quite damning in my opinion.
"There was a shooting at a political camp, which sounds a little like, you know, the Hitler youth. I mean, who does a camp for kids that's all about politics? Disturbing,"

I do agree; the main point is he is a "mass murderer".  However, I notice if a Muslim group, or any other group that this forum and others disapprove of, they are quick to place blame and discuss motivation with snide comment after comment.  So fair....

As for Hitler's Youth Programs, you man wish to consult those who lived through the times.  Hitler's Youth were not all about "bland platitudes" like "hope and change", nor was it a benign "camp for kids", but rather quite violent.  "The HJ were viewed as future "Aryan supermen" and were indoctrinated in anti-Semitism. One aim was to instill the motivation that would enable HJ members, as soldiers, to fight faithfully for the Third Reich."  Families were turned against families.

As for Beck, I don't know what Goebbels would do, but like Trump's show, Beck is not  "staying on the program for another season either", lol
I guess it's a matter of semantics.  Do you prefer "laid off", "let go", relieved of duty", "cut", or simply "fired"?

He had a legal contract.  At the end of his contract he wasn't asked to stay.  No nice words from management.  No going away party which is typical. 
They all but kicked his butt on the way out the door.  No one else wanted him.  In the business world, after you read through the platitudes and smiles, he got fired. 

It is a quiet way for Fox News to get rid of the headache that Beck has become without burning any bridges in the right wing movement. The reality is that if Fox News still wanted Glenn Beck on the air, they would have signed him to a new deal.

But the proof of Beck's "success" and popularity will be in the ratings and profit of his new show.  Let's see how how many people, besides those on this forum,  grin  pay $4.95 per month (or $9.95) for his show in September. 


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« Reply #249 on: July 26, 2011, 11:14:32 PM »

I am away from my usual flow of intel, so the fact that I have not heard any outrage except JDS's proves little.  I will say that to an unusual degree GB speaks with irony and sarcasm-- which makes it easy for those so inclined to take his literal words and print them so as to impute an actual meaning quite opposite to the one that actually was being conveyed.
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