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« Reply #100 on: August 11, 2016, 12:13:36 PM »

In fairness to Bernie his net worth including real estate is around 1.7 million if this site is to be believed.  While obviously well off this is a pittance compared to many of the "insiders" in DC:

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/04/17/what-is-bernie-sanders-net-worth.aspx

I will still never understand how someone accumulates 1.7 million doing nothing other than a lifetime of public service work, a carpentry job, and maybe some liberal arts 30 years ago.

La mordida!

Taking into consideration what CCP said, and having managed factories where many of my workers clocked about 65K with overtime, I haven't seen a single one of them become a millionaire. Not even one.

I'm going with what GM said on this.

That brand new, beach front, vacation home on the lake for 600K that he just bought probably has something to do with what I'm thinking. Yep... a man living modestly.

There's a Mexican general under fire right now for having two homes in Texas valued at about 1.5 million. It's raising some serious eyebrows. In the States, they don't even hide it.
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« Reply #101 on: August 11, 2016, 12:23:54 PM »

Just because they structure the payoffs as to not be payoffs doesn't make it any less crooked.

Cattle futures!
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« Reply #102 on: August 11, 2016, 12:48:20 PM »

Just because they structure the payoffs as to not be payoffs doesn't make it any less crooked.

Cattle futures!

I agree 100%. I was just looking into Mrs. Sanders' net worth and what she has done besides being let go from Burlington College after running it into the ground (maybe it wasn't her, but they did close less than 5 years after she left.


This article notes that Sanders' wife made about $160,000 a year running the college and that "virtually all of the couple’s assets are in Jane’s name, and they own a condo in D.C. and a rental property in Vermont." It is from February. Interestingly, the house in Maine that they would use to purchase the new home in Vermont is not listed. Many articles place Sanders' net worth between roughly 400K and 700K. They also fail to include his wife's earnings. Not bad for a pair of socialists.

Sanders' wife also justified the purchase of the house on the lake by stating that she had inherited a house in Maine that wasn't being used and used the proceeds from that to purchase the lake house in Vermont.

She purposely hides how much she is worth, Bernie purposely has most of the things in her name, and they're worth a lot more than they admit to.
http://fortune.com/2016/02/28/bernie-sanders-socialist-finances/

"Steady employment begins after the age of 39: In 1981, when Sanders won an election for the Mayor of Burlington, Vermont, the 39-year-old went on the public payroll — earning about $33,700 per year, according to Politico."

How one coverts that to 1.7 million dollars net worth at 74 years of age, only having worked full time for public service for 36 years, would be saving $48,571 per year since working regularly from the age of 39. His wife was making a lot of money, and I found this at Time's website "$1 Million-Plus Nest Egg" http://time.com/money/4235986/bernie-sanders-millionaire-finances/

Although Sanders and his wife’s joint tax return showed income of only a little more than $200,000 for 2014 — including his $174,000 salary," which mean that together, they were clocking her 160K (while she was at Burlington College) and his 174K (334K a year) the idea that they are socialists, and make that much off of "serving the public" is laughable.
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« Reply #103 on: August 12, 2016, 05:36:26 AM »

Good research DDF.
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« Reply #104 on: August 12, 2016, 10:17:16 AM »

Good research DDF.


Thank you Guru. It just struck me as curious what his wife was worth.
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« Reply #105 on: August 12, 2016, 04:02:40 PM »

Well, they are authentic socialists, as every worker's paradise has it's elites who live very well, despite the gulags, mass graves and starvation.

Hugo Chavez' daughter somehow became a multimillionaire. Must be from the success of Venezuela's economic model.

It's scientific!
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« Reply #106 on: August 13, 2016, 02:13:57 AM »

Well, they are authentic socialists, as every worker's paradise has it's elites who live very well, despite the gulags, mass graves and starvation.

Hugo Chavez' daughter somehow became a multimillionaire. Must be from the success of Venezuela's economic model.

It's scientific!

I have some free time on my hands. You bring up an interesting point about old Hugo and socialists in general. I think I'm going to look into what the world's socialist leaders are worth tomorrow, just for the hell of it. I had no idea that Chavez' daughter was so successful. Venezuela's "successful" economic model. Best one I've heard all day.  grin grin grin
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« Reply #107 on: August 14, 2016, 01:46:09 AM »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/venezuela/9993238/Venezuela-the-wealth-of-Chavez-family-exposed.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3192933/Hugo-Chavez-s-ambassador-daughter-Venezuela-s-richest-woman-according-new-report.html

Whoops! Multi-billionaire.
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« Reply #108 on: August 14, 2016, 12:36:01 PM »

Please post in Venezuela thread.  Thank you.
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« Reply #109 on: October 14, 2016, 09:06:44 PM »

Did I hear right-- if the Dems take the Senate then Bernie chairs the budget committee?
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« Reply #110 on: January 10, 2017, 07:35:42 PM »

From almost becoming our worst President ever, Bernis Sandsers has fallen to run-of-the-mill leftist, like Shumer, Warren, et al.

I followed a link to his insights today from real clear politics:  23 Questions for America  - Sen. Bernie Sanders, CNN

No, he hasn't learned a thing.  He lost the nomination to Hillary because of cheating, corruption and collusion in his own party.  No one is running for party chair to clean that up.  All they have is denial, even from Sanders.

One of many bold, FALSE statements:  [The US today has] the highest rate of childhood poverty of almost any major country on earth.

Oh really?  What a crock.  He cites this UNICEF study:  https://www.unicef-irc.org/publications/pdf/rc10_eng.pdf  They compare countries by comparing the percentage of
children living in relative poverty, defined as living in a household whose income, when adjusted for family size and composition, is less than 50% of the median income for the country in which they live.  He cites inequality, based on false data, not counting the income of the poor, and he calls it poverty.  Good grief.  Maybe he makes up for it with charisma?

Our poor are often richer than their rich, but we have the highest rate of children living in relative poverty? Without counting their income and relative to the median of the wealthiest country in history.  If the questions or ideas stand on their own, why fill it with deception?

So much for addressing real problems.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/09/opinions/serious-questions-bernie-sanders-opinion/index.html

Bernie Sanders: We need serious talk on serious issues
By Bernie Sanders
Updated 4:19 PM ET, Mon January 9, 2017

(CNN)In my view, the media spends too much time treating politics like a baseball game, a personality contest or a soap opera. We need to focus less on polls, fundraisers, gaffes and who's running for president in four years, and more on the very serious problems facing the American people -- problems which get relatively little discussion. I hope that's what our town meeting on CNN tonight will accomplish.  [So far, so good.]

There are a lot of important questions to talk about, including:
How do we stop the movement toward oligarchy in our country in which the economic and political life of the United States is increasingly controlled by a handful of billionaires?  [Stop it by getting those who aren't to particpate in the productive economy.  Instead we pay and contract with them to stay poor. cf. SSI]

Are we content with the grotesque level of income and wealth inequality that we are experiencing? [If it's important, stop measuring and reporting it falsely]  Should the top one-tenth of 1 percent own almost as much wealth as the bottom 90 percent? Should one family in this country, the Waltons of the Walmart retail chain, own as much as the bottom 40 percent of our people? [The bottom 40% mostly don't have savings.  Don't double down on the failed policies that caused that. Increase the wealth of the bottom 40% if that is the goal and stop making meaningless comparisons. Should 52 percent of all new income be going into the pockets of the top 1 percent?  [The results of the Sanders, Obama plan.  Also see Venezuela's decline and collapse since leaving a free market economy.]

While the very rich become much richer, are we satisfied with having the highest rate of childhood poverty of almost any major country on earth? [Already proven patently false, see above.] Can a worker really survive on the current federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour? [By sharing household expenses with family and friends.  Instead household sizes keep getting smaller for the poorest among us.] How can a working-class family afford $15,000 a year for childcare? [What did that used to cost?] How can a senior citizen or a disabled veteran get by on $13,000 a year from Social Security?

What can be done about a political system in which the very rich are able to spend unlimited sums of money to elect candidates who represent their interests? [The winner spent the least.  Stubborn facts.] Is that really what democracy is about? Why, in the year 2017, do we still have state governments trying to suppress the vote and make it harder for poor people, young people and people of color to participate in the political process? [Checking ID is not suppression and saying it's harder for 'poor people, young people and people of color' is degrading.]

Why is the richest country in the history of the world the only major country not to provide health care to all as a right [Lie, lie, lie, no one is denied healthcare] despite spending much more per capita? Why are we one of the very few countries on earth not to provide paid family and medical leave? [What does paying more people to not work have to do with serious questions?] With the five major drug companies making over $50 billion in profits last year [.0025 portion of the economy, how much should they make on risk capital to try to develop cures for our ailments?] why do we end up paying, by far, the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs?  [Enforce the anti-dumping laws already on the books or negotiate best price contracts, like successful companies do, see Walmart above.]

How do we succeed in a competitive global economy if we do not have the best educated workforce in the world? And how can we have that quality workforce if so many of our young people are unable to afford higher education or leave school deeply in debt? Not so many years ago, we had the highest percentage of college graduates in the world. Now we don't even rank in the top ten. What can we do to make sure that every American, regardless of income, gets all of the education he or she needs? [Public school education in Democrat-run big cities is a disgrace.  School choice is the Republican and inner city black preference.]

Meanwhile, on climate change, the debate is over. [More like you quit listening to it.] The scientific community is virtually unanimous in telling us that climate change is real, is caused by human activity and is already doing devastating harm to our country and the entire world. [Patently false as written.] How do we transform our energy system away from fossil fuel and into energy efficiency and sustainable energy while protecting those workers who might lose their jobs as a result of the transition? [Stop opposing carbon-free nuclear energy.] This is no small issue. The future of the planet is at stake.

We are now spending $80 billion a year to imprison 2.2 million Americans, who are disproportionately African-American, Latino and Native American. [The victims are disproportionately minority too.  The culture of crime is breeding in Democrat-run cities.  Check it out.] We have more people in jail than any other country on earth, including China, which is home to four times as many people. How do we reform a broken criminal justice system? How do we create jobs and educational opportunity for young people, not more jails and incarceration? [Stop jails or stop crime?]

We must create a path for the 11 million undocumented [unlawful] people in our country to become lawful permanent residents and eventually citizens. [Why?] How can we move our nation toward common sense, humane and comprehensive immigration reform and by doing that help reverse the decline of our middle class and better prepare the United States to compete in the global economy?  [Enforce the border and the law.]

Our nation's infrastructure is collapsing and the American people know it. At a time when our roads, bridges, water systems, rail and airports, levees, dams, schools and housing stock are decaying, the most effective way to rapidly create meaningful jobs is to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure. How can we work together to make that happen? [Read the Republican plan.]

These are the issues that need to be talked about all over the country. I thank CNN for allowing us to have a serious discussion about serious issues.  [Bernie, your disingenuity is killing us.  Luckily the voters went a different direction.]
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« Reply #111 on: February 28, 2017, 05:20:11 PM »

suddenly he is worried about anti - semitism?

Where the hell was he for the past 8 yrs?

What a joke.
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