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« on: January 02, 2011, 03:43:39 PM »

Details , , , soon grin
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« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2011, 05:16:34 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2011, 11:17:59 PM »

2 weeks before my 40th
looking forward to this,
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2011, 12:26:07 AM »

2 weeks before my 40th
looking forward to this,


Great!  I know exactly what Im giving you Wink

These Gathering reminders are exactly what I need to ignite the NOS...  Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2011, 12:36:45 AM »

looks like there will be a few of us again this year
i made a pair of mae swoks if any one is interested in fighting me with them let me know
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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2011, 06:52:05 PM »

Make the best out of it DOGS!!!! for one day I'll be there.  Good luck to all. grin
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2011, 11:46:59 AM »

Woof All:

Some additional details in response to some questions I have received. 

Yes, both days are for fighting.  Yes the fighting will be in Los Angeles.

There will be a guest fighter with an interesting three section staff game. 

I would like to encourage fighters to consider fighting Stick y Daga with the dage being a substantial aluminum blade.  The idea here is to develop skill sets that discourage bum rushes into messy grapples.

Concerning my seminar in Israel the week before.  Assuming I am not whacked by Al Quaeda, Hamas, or Hezbollah, while I am in Israel, there should be no problem smiley

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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2011, 01:50:10 PM »

Woof All:

Concerning my seminar in Israel the week before.  Assuming I am not whacked by Al Quaeda, Hamas, or Hezbollah, while I am in Israel, there should be no problem smiley

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Have a safe trip Guro. I wish that I was fighting too. I love what you have built. I know that sometimes I'm controversial, but meeting you all was and is the best thing that ever happened to me. In any event, as I've stated, have a safe trip. God Speed.
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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2011, 03:02:48 PM »

Make the best out of it DOGS!!!! for one day I'll be there.  Good luck to all. grin

@GC,

Maybe I should call you but not into secrets.  I respectfully request Kajukenbo Sifu J. Cordova to accompany me as a guest fighter and as I see a future Dog Brother to this Tribal Gathering.  May I have your blessing for this invite.  JCordova fought honorably at the last public gathering and also works as a US Marshal. 

TAC,
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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2011, 05:31:25 PM »

Not a question of secrets Kaju; just a matter of wanting to be able to be able to discuss matters candidly or even to reject a suggestion without embarassing someone publicly. 
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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2011, 10:16:18 PM »

Not a question of secrets Kaju; just a matter of wanting to be able to be able to discuss matters candidly or even to reject a suggestion without embarassing someone publicly. 

Good point well received as I embarace myself.  (something Im good at) Wink
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« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2011, 11:08:17 PM »

Your intentions were honorable, no embarassment is relevant here , , , except for your spelling  cheesy
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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2011, 06:56:48 AM »

I would like to encourage fighters to consider fighting Stick y Daga with the dage being a substantial aluminum blade.  The idea here is to develop skill sets that discourage bum rushes into messy..."
Crafty: could u elaborate on ideas you have that would discourage "rushes into grappling". If I understand u correctly you are connecting the weapon with discouraging that. Assuming I understand your thinking can u explain how this would discourage such tactic? Also would u help me understand why u would want to discourage this or are you saying that we need to develop better responses to "bum rushes ending in grappling"?
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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2011, 07:58:21 PM »

"my take is the pain penalty associated with the aluminum blade makes the rush to clinch less likely due to the risk"
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« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2011, 10:30:11 PM »

I would like to encourage fighters to consider fighting Stick y Daga with the dage being a substantial aluminum blade.  The idea here is to develop skill sets that discourage bum rushes into messy..."
Crafty: could u elaborate on ideas you have that would discourage "rushes into grappling". If I understand u correctly you are connecting the weapon with discouraging that. Assuming I understand your thinking can u explain how this would discourage such tactic? Also would u help me understand why u would want to discourage this or are you saying that we need to develop better responses to "bum rushes ending in grappling"?

There has always been a propensity during the fights with knives to do things one would probably not do if the blades were real. Using shocknives, cattle-prods and large heavy aluminium  trainers amongst other weapons, is one way to add a bit more realism by virtue of not wanting to be hit due to the very real possibilities of pain and/or physical damage.

When the weapon is treated as just another blunt object there seems to be a lot more close quarters striking, clinching and grappling with less emphasis placed on what damage a live blade would be doing and addressing that problem appropriately. The end result is typically a mess with both participants "dying multiple messy deaths".

This is what Guru Crafty appears to be referring to in the quoted text.

As an aside, there probably is a lot to be said also about learning to mitigate "bum rushes ending in grappling" with edged weapons. For that context DLO is the key. So in a way, you might be right on both accounts.  grin

BTW - I don't recommend cattle-prods... they tend to scar.  embarassed


Afterthought;

In addition to using weapons as mentioned it's helpful to talk to your opponent to re-iterate that you both want to treat the blades as live blades whether just daga versus daga or espada y daga versus xyz. Bitch Linda and I used little folder trainers in a Gathering once but treated them as very real sharp blades. It made for a very tactical and fun fight. There was no pain compliance with the little knives, just an equal understanding on reality. That may be helpful as well and that will be easy to set up in a closed Gathering with people who truly get it. Have fun!


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« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2011, 11:01:21 PM »

Good discussion.
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« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2011, 10:18:00 PM »

I think the introduction of the heavy aluminum trainers has added to the fights at the gathering immensely. I'm not sure when they first came out, maybe it was at the corral, but I found they definitely changed the tempo and characteristics of the fight. I love to grapple and last time I fought with the trainers I didn't so much as clinch.
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« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2011, 11:44:33 AM »

Greetings all, I am new to this message board.  I have been studying FMA since 2000.  I have been fortunate enough to train with Guro Dan Inosanto, Ajarn Chai, and Erik Paulson.  I began and continue my training at the Trident Academy of Martial Arts in Woodbridge Va, where i focus mainly on FMA and Thai boxing.  Guro Crafty, you know my instructor well.  I have seen him in a few of your videos Wink.  I have been interested in doing a Gathering for many years but feel I am now in a position (work, finances, etc.) to make the trip out to California for one.  I had read on the website that the first weekend in May is an open gathering, however, if I am following along correctly, this one appears to be a closed affair.  If it is a closed gathering, when is the next open gathering?  I really look forward to coming out and meeting you guys and testing myself.  I hope this message finds you all well, and I look forward to more discussions.  Thanks for your time. 
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« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2011, 02:03:33 PM »

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BTW - I don't recommend cattle-prods... they tend to scar.  embarassed


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I like the idea of cattle prods. It should be painful and the scarring? We all have them. I say this with the utmost in respect.

My entire enamoration with what the Dog Brothers does, is that it builds men into who we are capable of becoming. That doesn't (nor should it), come easily.
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« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2011, 09:09:11 PM »

Dinger:

Welcome aboard here.

Please extend my warm greetings to your teacher.

The Open Gathering is in September.  If there is not a thread for it already, there will be.  It will be held the Sunday in September closest to the equinox.

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« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2011, 10:32:29 AM »

I can hardly wait.  smiley
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« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2011, 08:31:25 AM »

Guro Crafty
Thanks for the response.  I will tell Pat you said hello.  I look forward to September and will submit my leave to work next shift. 
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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2011, 07:44:21 PM »

Dinger:
Welcome to the board. Although some personal issues may prevent me from fighting this September, I plan on, at the least, standing with the Tribe and I look forward to witnessing your first fights at a Gathering. C-Growling Dog has said that a person steps on the mat at their first Gathering as one person and they step off the mat another one. I've never met a fighter who disagrees with that assertion. September will be here before you know it!!
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« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2011, 01:41:44 PM »

Dinger:
Welcome to the board. Although some personal issues may prevent me from fighting this September, I plan on, at the least, standing with the Tribe and I look forward to witnessing your first fights at a Gathering. C-Growling Dog has said that a person steps on the mat at their first Gathering as one person and they step off the mat another one. I've never met a fighter who disagrees with that assertion. September will be here before you know it!!

It changed me. My life will never be the same. That's all I've got to say about that.
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« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2011, 12:22:49 PM »

Thanks for the welcome.  I really look forward to it and cant wait.  This has been a goal for a long time.  I have heard lots of great things about Guru Crafty and cant wait to meet him and the rest of the Tribe.  Any pointers for a first timer?
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« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2011, 01:09:39 PM »

Challlenge the fighters that you know are better than you and if possible, set the fights up beforehand by getting to know the Tribe before the gathering. That is what I would have changed.
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« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2011, 01:42:47 PM »

For cherries, this is my parable:

Do you remember the first time you had sex?

Were you any good at it?

Have you gotten better since then?

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« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2011, 01:49:54 PM »

For cherries, this is my parable:

Do you remember the first time you had sex?

Were you any good at it?

Have you gotten better since then?



 grin Yes. No. Yes. Experience that I'll never forget. Guro...you are the man in so many ways Sir. Great parable.
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« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2011, 10:05:02 PM »

I really hope I become better at stickfighting then I am at sex.  grin
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« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2011, 09:28:51 AM »

 cheesy

You best hope your woman does not read this thread  cheesy
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« Reply #30 on: February 26, 2011, 08:27:44 AM »

I would like to use a three sectional Staff and a Long Staff as weapons for the Gathering. If anybody is interested to fight against those weapons please let me know  smiley
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« Reply #31 on: February 26, 2011, 03:40:45 PM »

I would like to use a three sectional Staff and a Long Staff as weapons for the Gathering. If anybody is interested to fight against those weapons please let me know  smiley

I've taken an interest in the health benefits of the short staff and hope to take you up on a future staff fight but will humbly resist your temptation until I find my comfort zone with the added length and weight. 

I would love a knife fight...
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« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2011, 08:34:21 PM »

Yip  tongue  Sniff-sniff... any word on the "Fighter Registration Form"  We still send them in for the Tribal Gathering IIRC?  I enjoy seeing the list of fighters grow as the Adventure draws near. smiley

Respectfully,
A Dog thats had a bit of kibble
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« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2011, 09:22:04 AM »

Everyone must have one for each and every Gathering.

I will check with the boss about the form for this one.
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« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2011, 02:21:32 PM »

Everyone must have one for each and every Gathering.

I will check with the boss about the form for this one.

Thats what I was thinking...   Thank you.  Cool
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« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2011, 03:59:15 PM »

 shocked   Honored to announce I have lined up my first fight for this Gathering. 

Woof-woof Gong Fu

Aluminum blades  cry grin

*(My new motivator for improving my health)

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« Reply #36 on: February 28, 2011, 12:18:53 PM »

shocked   Honored to announce I have lined up my first fight for this Gathering. 

Woof-woof Gong Fu

Aluminum blades  cry grin

*(My new motivator for improving my health)

V/r,
Kaju

Yes Sir...we will have some fun, thats for sure  smiley
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« Reply #37 on: February 28, 2011, 12:20:45 PM »

Gong Fu:

I've made arrangements for you to have a seven foot staff.  You have email.
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« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2011, 02:24:14 PM »

Thanks a lot Guro Crafty!
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« Reply #39 on: March 08, 2011, 12:40:07 PM »

Do we have a registration form at this point?

Location?
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« Reply #40 on: March 08, 2011, 04:56:14 PM »

Guess we need to start getting around to that, don't we  grin

Location probably will be either as last year or a nearby place overlooking the ocean.
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« Reply #41 on: March 08, 2011, 05:03:01 PM »

the ocean is  tres  afro
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« Reply #42 on: March 21, 2011, 07:02:57 PM »

guro im working on making sure i'm off that weekend. highly doubtful ill be fighting, but i'd at least like to be there and help out if it's ok with you.


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« Reply #43 on: March 21, 2011, 10:03:18 PM »

Woof Sisco:

It would be great to have your there.  cool
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« Reply #44 on: April 06, 2011, 05:20:48 PM »

Guro, do you know the day in Sept. the open gathering will be?
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« Reply #45 on: May 04, 2011, 12:33:25 AM »

I'm on an Israeli hotel connection at the moment, so I will be brief:

Keep Saturday night open for good times!
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« Reply #46 on: May 04, 2011, 11:17:33 PM »

Woof Brothers and Sistas,

Just confirming that I will not be able to be at this Tribal Gathering for a few reasons.  Im terribly sorry that I will not be there to support the Tribe. 

As for the Public Gathing in September, I dont foresee any reason at this time that would stop my being there.

With respect and admirration,

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« Reply #47 on: May 10, 2011, 02:46:11 PM »

So....should we assume that the Tribal is at the same location as last year? What time ...10ish?
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« Reply #48 on: May 10, 2011, 05:20:03 PM »

Woof Kaju,

We'll miss you, brother.  Semper Fi.

Aloha, Poi
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« Reply #49 on: May 10, 2011, 08:37:57 PM »

Hum , , , who will be our EMT?  Frankfurter?

Location:  Will be about ten minutes from the usual location.  I think everyone will be very pleased.  Tomorrow (remember "tomorrow" means "not today") I will get the URL of the location so I can send it to all concerned.  Also, we are looking at caravaning from the park. 
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