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« Reply #200 on: October 26, 2016, 09:15:03 AM »



Even though he lies and gets caught all the time, this one is a big deal.  It explains why they didn't prosecute her.

His personal and political mis-use of the agencies, Fast and Furious - ATF, Attorney General, IRS targeting - IRS Commissioner, and now this, FBI, Dept of Justice, comprises RICO level crimes and impeachable acts.

To the Lois Lerner's in the agencies who know, you can come forward and tell us what you were directed to do and by whom or you can be prosecuted as part of the corruption conspiracy.
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« Reply #201 on: October 26, 2016, 09:28:58 AM »



Even though he lies and gets caught all the time, this one is a big deal.  It explains why they didn't prosecute her.

His personal and political mis-use of the agencies, Fast and Furious - ATF, Attorney General, IRS targeting - IRS Commissioner, and now this, FBI, Dept of Justice, comprises RICO level crimes and impeachable acts.

To the Lois Lerner's in the agencies who know, you can come forward and tell us what you were directed to do and by whom or you can be prosecuted as part of the corruption conspiracy.

If it isn't treason, I'd like to know what is. The double standards are absurd. There are so many cases, of so many, doing so much less, and sentenced away for so long, that how any of this isn't a slap in the face to the entire country, is just incredible.

It seems, the Achilles heel of the United States has been found. It also points out that the founding fathers were correct... wise men, well beyond their time.
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« Reply #202 on: October 26, 2016, 10:27:35 AM »

Wasn't Obama also guilty of exposing the White House IT system to attack through his emails to HildaBEAST?  How do we know hackers didn't just trace back through his email up to the WH computer / communications system?  The Right should be pounding the table on this. 

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/441430/wikileaks-hillary-clinton-barack-obama-emails-more-evidence-president-lied
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« Reply #203 on: October 26, 2016, 10:58:52 AM »

Wasn't Obama also guilty of exposing the White House IT system to attack through his emails to HildaBEAST?  How do we know hackers didn't just trace back through his email up to the WH computer / communications system?  The Right should be pounding the table on this. 

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/441430/wikileaks-hillary-clinton-barack-obama-emails-more-evidence-president-lied

Should be. I doubt they will.
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« Reply #204 on: October 27, 2016, 10:41:06 AM »

18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason (Hillary Clinton... talking to you)

"Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)
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« Reply #205 on: October 27, 2016, 11:33:35 AM »

18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason (Hillary Clinton... talking to you)

"Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

This is specific to aiding our enemies, applies to Hillary on the Uranium deal for example.  The Obama crimes like IRS targeting are more internal to subverting our constitution and imploding our country.  I would like to see the federal law applying to that.  It might come down to simply violating his oath of office.
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« Reply #206 on: October 27, 2016, 02:19:29 PM »

18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason (Hillary Clinton... talking to you)

"Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

This is specific to aiding our enemies, applies to Hillary on the Uranium deal for example.  The Obama crimes like IRS targeting are more internal to subverting our constitution and imploding our country.  I would like to see the federal law applying to that.  It might come down to simply violating his oath of office.

That is correct, and why I posted it.

Aiding enemies:

Obama - Cash to Iran... numerous times... and helping them obtain nuclear technology, and then even CNN printing this: http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/02/politics/state-department-report-terrorism/ calling them state sponsors of terrorism.

"The State Department on Thursday released its annual report on global terrorist activity, listing Iran as the top state sponsor of terrorism and labeling ISIS "the greatest threat globally."

Clinton - Just as you've stated, but they're so much more.... the emails, servers, Benghazi, and we can keep going... it applies.

Lynch - purposely not bringing charges.

Comey - same as Lynch.

Holder - Fast and Furious, with "executive privilege" from Obama saving his bacon. Those weapons went directly to hostile enemies of both the Mexican and American governments and they'v been called "terrorist organizations... " by US politicians. We all know that there have been several accusations of ISIS slipping into the US from the southern border, with and without cartels helping.... and Holder sends them weapons.

If any of the above, isn't aiding American enemies or giving them comfort, what is?
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« Reply #207 on: October 27, 2016, 02:51:29 PM »

Great list.  The Iran example alone should do it.

Fast and Furious has elements of treason in it.  Americans died as a direct result of it.  Not even arguable as an unintended result.  Isn't that what they hoped would happen?  Mexican border gangs are enemies of the US, right?  They violate our sovereignty, kill civilians and shoot border guards.

I'm not sure if general examples of weakening our country from the inside are enemy-specific enough to prosecute under the treason statute.  The extreme examples of this like IRS targeting. Improper use (and non-use) of the FBI and DOJ are also be impeachable offenses, IMHO.

I do not support criminalizing political differences.  From the true statement you make about Iran, I don't see how sending them massive planeloads of cash, as a hostage taking bonus, that the people had no idea we were doing, is a political difference.  He was aiding and abetting an enemy.  And now they are killing us (again).  He should be prosecuted and removed.  Instead they brag of "defeating" Iran without firing a single shot.  Their theft of our language is a crime.

It takes two sides agreeing to impeach and remove from office.  I wonder what a leader on their side could do, if not any or all of these, to rise to an impeachable offense for Democrats.

How is it we can't all agree what was done in these examples is wrong, is criminal, and justifies swift action to protect the country and keep future leaders from doing more of the same or worse?!  I am astonished at how otherwise informed, intelligent, liberal friends know nothing about almost all of these scandals.  The exposure is almost all in the right leaning media, not reaching the general public.
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« Reply #208 on: October 27, 2016, 03:15:32 PM »

It takes two sides agreeing to impeach and remove from office.  I wonder what a leader on their side could do, if not any or all of these, to rise to an impeachable offense for Democrats.

How is it we can't all agree what was done in these examples is wrong, is criminal, and justifies swift action to protect the country and keep future leaders from doing more of the same or worse?!  I am astonished at how otherwise informed, intelligent, liberal friends know nothing about almost all of these scandals.  The exposure is almost all in the right leaning media, not reaching the general public.

 I wonder what a leader on their side could do... if it had been a Republican.

How is it we can't all agree what was done in these examples is wrong, is criminal, and justifies swift action to protect the country and keep future leaders from doing more of the same or worse?!... the ends justify the means. This is by far your more important question. The war (and there is one), in the States, isn't between the Right and the Left; it's between capitalism and socialism, between sovereignty (of any country - especially countries with high GDPs) and globalization.
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« Reply #209 on: October 28, 2016, 10:39:17 AM »

http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/10/27/judge-napolitano-what-happened-fbi-its-been-corrupted-obama-and-his-team
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« Reply #210 on: October 29, 2016, 09:31:29 AM »

"“I'm livid, actually,” one Clinton surrogate told The Hill. “This has turned into malpractice. It's an unforced error at this point. I have no idea what Comey is up to but the idea this email issue is popping back up again is outrageous. It never should have occurred in the first place. Someone somewhere should have told her no. And they didn't and now we're all paying the price.”

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/303402-anger-disbelief-in-clinton-camp

Rather weird if you ask me.  "Someone should have told her no".  This person I guess means that "someone" should have refused to conspire with her to break the law, cover her lies and corruption, obstruction of evidence, open up national security secrets to hackers knowingly?

They are all complicit.

"now we're all paying the price.”

In other words you may not be able to cash in...........

dirt balls all of them as far as I am concerned

All that said she will still most likely win.
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« Reply #211 on: October 29, 2016, 11:49:48 AM »

THIS TIME Comey did not fall for the DOJ manipulation it appears:

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/29/report-james-comey-loretta-lynchs-advice-sending-letter-congress/

*Maybe* he will redeem himself and the FBI after all.

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« Reply #212 on: November 01, 2016, 01:32:26 AM »

What a tangled web we weave when first we elect to deceive.

Very good article on all this in the WSJ today.  There ARE good reasons, and policies to support them, to avoid acting in a way that messes with the electoral process-- but in calling upon them the Dems are like the man who killed his parents and then threw himself on the mercy of the court because he was an orphan.
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« Reply #213 on: November 02, 2016, 06:45:02 PM »

http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/31/hillarys-two-official-favors-to-morocco-resulted-in-28-million-for-clinton-foundation/
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« Reply #214 on: November 04, 2016, 04:47:29 PM »

Not only with Lynch but this goes directly to Bamster.  She is a more subtle Eric Holder but otherwise the same handling of the  DOJ :

https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/11/total-political-hack-loretta-lynch-denies-grand-jury-request-from-fbi-clinton-investigators

If Trump wins he needs to clean house.
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« Reply #215 on: November 05, 2016, 03:43:17 PM »

Thanks to Andrew McCarthy who points out that the Eastern District of NY is the US Attorney Office handling the Clinton Foundation investigation.   

#1  Why is this the Office handling it?   It should be the Northern Office of maybe one in DC!
#2  For those of us not aware, this was the exact District that none other then Loretta Lynch worked in before she was named Attorney General.  What is also interesting is that Hildabeast has her campaign          office in Brooklyn.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/441815/clinton-foundation-investigation-district

Lynch is just as crooked as Holder.  And no one can even entertain for one second she is not doing Obama's bidding.
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« Reply #216 on: November 11, 2016, 12:03:30 PM »

Nepotism in American politics.

Families that have last names starting with the letter "A," represent 89 families with 275 people having served in politics, for almost 3 centuries.

When one removes the state distinction and inter-marital relationships, and differences in spelling that have occurred over the years, the number of families drops to 50, and dates back to 1717 AD on the American continent.

Surnames starting with the letter "B," account for 201 distinct surnames, with their members of there families, offering up 801 public servants, not counting the Breckenridge, Butler-Belmont, or Bush families, which are so large, that they have their own listings, dating back to 1686.

In the case of the Breckenridges, accounting for another 59 politicians throughout the centuries
the Butler-Belmont family dating back to 1759, with 17 members of their family serving throughout the years (not including the other Belmont family members already accounted for)

Bush family, which actually includes two family lines, Bush, and Bush-Davis-Walker, dating back to 1676, with 56 members of their family serving public office and as president twice.

The total number of people from the 201 families with surnames starting with "B" that have been politicians is at least 933 politicians.

Surnames with the letter "C," are represented 218 times or less.

Focusing on the Clintons, of whom, both Bill and Hillary have lineage tracing back to the original 13 colonies, and just between Bill, Hillary and Hillary's brother, have included one president, FOUR presidential candidacies, secretary of state, senator, attorney general, and failed senate and congressional candidacies as well.

If we include marital relationships of Bill, Hillary's brother, and Chelsea, it will include ties to Senator Barbara Boxer, Congressmen James A. Lockhart and US Representatives Edward Mezvinsky and Marjorie Margolies-Mezvinsky.


Since the number of surnames in the United States is accumulative, accounting for everyone that has ever come to the country, and numbering at least 150,000 - 1,350,000 means that a fraction of the families in the US are ever included, and that those who are, overly so.


Leaving the Wikipedia list for a moment, others too, have made the same observation as noted here:

"My infatuation with political dynasties began in Frankfurt, Germany, in 1957, when, as a bored private in a peacetime army, I wandered into a library and discovered the "Biographical Directory of the United States Congress." Who were these Bayards, Muhlenbergs and Frelinghuysens, I wondered, with five or six names apiece in the directory? I counted 700 families in which two or more members had served in Congress. I eventually explored these questions in a book, "America's Political Dynasties," published more than four decades ago." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/11/AR2009091101831.html

When one contemplates the numbers of households/families, in 2015 numbering 124,590,000, https://www.statista.com/statistics/183635/number-of-households-in-the-us/, distinct surnames numbering between 150,000 to 1,350,000 (the date is still being counted and will be released in 2020), and the American population numbering 318,900,000, the fact that it is even possible to discuss dynasties existing in American politics should render the possibility of it occurring, out of reach, but it isn't. It happens frequently, which is concerning, when the amount of corruption perceived to exist happens, and given the roots of the United States having fought and defeated a monarchy in the name of freedom; yet, clearly, nepotism exists, and exists to a point, that given the references above, is too large to number, which even includes people such as discredited Sheriff Lee Baca, who has three relatives who have served public office, one of whom has served as senator, and Lee Baca isn't even included on the list I counted, when it i still a public office.

Some interesting notes:

The Kennedys:

1.) Arrived to the United States in 1849 from Ireland. Have had 12 members of their immediate bloodline serve public office since arriving.

2.) Two of them married men who would serve as governor, and another married to the mayor of Boston.

3.) Sargent Shriver, who never served, was the Democratic VP Nominee in 1972

4.) The first Kennedy took office in 1884, 35 years after their arrival, meaning that in 132 years, 17 people from their line, have either run, held, or been married to people holding public office.

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-kennedy-political-dynasty-family-tree-infographic-2012-1



John Kerry :

1.) Distant blood relative to the Bush family.

2.) A member of the Forbes family.

3.) Husband to Teresa Heinz, who's family also includes prominent politicians and wealth.

4.) Direct family lineage includes at least one chief justice and a senator.

5.) Kerry himself served as senator for almost 30 years, before becoming Secretary of State, and has served as Lt. governor and congressman since 1972 (almost 45 years).


I've been reading this all day, and it's starting to sound like a skull and bones party before even the beginning of the States, and also having cross referenced this with lists from Forbes wealthiest... smh


"In 1848, for example, more than 16 percent of congressional seats were filled by someone whose relative had previously held the position [source: Kieley]. Moreover, a 2006 study found that Congress members who serve more than one term have a 40 percent chance of someone in their family later ending up in Congress [source: Alexander]. "

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/politics/2010-08-03-1Adynasties03_CV_N.htm

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-politics-dynasties-idUSN0332238720070304
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« Reply #217 on: November 11, 2016, 02:47:52 PM »

Interesting and timely.

Please post in the American History thread on the SC&H forum as well.
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« Reply #218 on: November 14, 2016, 12:49:47 PM »

I wonder is she is wearing a wire to the FBI or CIA:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pamela-anderson-visits-wikileaks-founder-192337693.html
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