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« Reply #50 on: October 18, 2013, 09:10:58 PM »

"We actually need to both defeat the establishment Republicans and unite with them, a daunting proposition."

Yes.  And that is why Cruz is a hero to many of us.  For the first time he stood up to the cowards in our party and gave them a lesson on how to fight. 

It was a brilliant success no matter what the left wing media and the establishment Repooplicans will claim.  He gave me, at least, hope, inspiration, and a will to fight on.

I know no other Republican who can lay the same claim.  Ryan, Rubio, Boner, McConnell, Christie, even Rand (he might be closest).

Even in this temporary defeat there is triumph.   He took a stand and went down fighting.   And more alive to fight another day.

That which doesn't kill you makes you stronger.   

Doug writes,

 "At some point people open up to a different message."   

Why is it Republicans don't have a message machine, a talking points machine like the crats?  Thomas Sowell points out in a recent column how disastrously poor the republicans are with their messages.

This is a major flaw. 



 
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« Reply #51 on: October 18, 2013, 10:03:21 PM »

Amen.
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« Reply #52 on: October 19, 2013, 10:19:36 AM »

Get rid of the clowns at the RNC.  I nominate Brent Bozell or maybe even Matt Drudge to become chairman of the PR department of the Republican Party.
How about Sowell?  This guy knows how to communicate.


http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell100813.php3#.UmKiLhXD-Cg
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« Reply #53 on: October 19, 2013, 10:22:46 AM »

3/05/14/former-gop-latino-outreach-specialist-is-now-a-demo
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« Reply #54 on: October 23, 2013, 11:15:17 AM »

 sad shocked huh cry embarassed

McCain considering seeking reelection in 2016

By Aaron Blake

October 22 at 11:57 am

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said Tuesday that he is considering running for another term in 2016, when he would be 80 years old.

"I'm seriously thinking about maybe giving another opportunity for you to vote for or against me in a few years from now," McCain said on KFYI-AM in Phoenix. "I'm seriously giving that a lot of thought."

Asked by host Barry Young to clarify if he was saying he might run again, McCain said: "That would not be wrong."

The New York Times's Mark Leibovich, who is in Arizona following McCain, first tweeted the news.

McCain, the 2008 GOP presidential nominee, is in his fifth term. He has never taken less than 56 percent of the vote and easily dispatched a primary challenge in 2010 from former congressman J.D. Hayworth.

If he runs again, McCain will likely find himself targeted by tea party groups.

Updated at 12:36 p.m
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« Reply #55 on: October 23, 2013, 05:33:53 PM »

sad shocked huh cry embarassed

McCain considering seeking reelection in 2016

By Aaron Blake

October 22 at 11:57 am

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said Tuesday that he is considering running for another term in 2016, when he would be 80 years old.

"I'm seriously thinking about maybe giving another opportunity for you to vote for or against me in a few years from now," McCain said on KFYI-AM in Phoenix. "I'm seriously giving that a lot of thought."

Asked by host Barry Young to clarify if he was saying he might run again, McCain said: "That would not be wrong."

The New York Times's Mark Leibovich, who is in Arizona following McCain, first tweeted the news.

McCain, the 2008 GOP presidential nominee, is in his fifth term. He has never taken less than 56 percent of the vote and easily dispatched a primary challenge in 2010 from former congressman J.D. Hayworth.

If he runs again, McCain will likely find himself targeted by tea party groups.

Updated at 12:36 p.m


Will he switch parties first?
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« Reply #56 on: December 23, 2013, 10:14:02 AM »

I call him an independent,  but he is most often conservative - and brilliant.  A rare instance of George Will getting it wrong:  

Scott Johnson, writing at Powerline:

"I don’t think George Will has ever written a more infuriating column than the one he wrote commending Obama’s Geneva deal with Iran. Why infuriating? Will saves himself the trouble of arguing the premise of his column — that Iran can be “contained” (or deterred) like the Soviet Union during the Cold War. Will saves himself the trouble of arguing it by simply assuming it."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/george-f-will-better-a-contained-iran-than-an-all-out-war/2013/12/04/e4dcb1aa-5c4b-11e3-95c2-13623eb2b0e1_story.html

Norman Pohoretz doesn't name names but writes:

"Adherents of the new consensus would have us believe that only two choices remain: a war to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons or containment of a nuclear Iran—with containment the only responsible option. Yet as an unregenerate upholder of the old consensus, I remain convinced that containment is impossible, from which it follows that the two choices before us are not war vs. containment but a conventional war now or a nuclear war later."
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« Reply #57 on: December 23, 2013, 06:51:25 PM »

***Yet as an unregenerate upholder of the old consensus, I remain convinced that containment is impossible, from which it follows that the two choices before us are not war vs. containment but a conventional war now or a nuclear war later."****

I agree with this.  As John Bolton said, "if you think Iran is a problem now imagine what it will be like with nuclear weapons."

Just seems to me as more countries achieve nuclear weapons capabilities the more likely they will be used.

Iran like those of us on this board have long ago realized the US had no intention of using military means to stop them.

US leaders look ridiculous stating "the military option is on the table".

I wonder if Will would have come to the same forgone conclusions if he lived in Tel Aviv?

Instead he lives in the modern version of Rome -> DC.
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« Reply #58 on: January 10, 2014, 09:23:14 AM »

Bringing CCP comments here:  "As for Christie I admit if he is thrown out (he won't resign) I know my taxes will go even higher.   And half of NJ will be cheering for that.

Yet I won't accept a liar.  I won't accept anyone who abuses his/her power.   He is full of crap.  He knew.  Just like Obama knew.  Just like the Clintons knew.

This kind of behavior from right OR left has got to stop.

We need people who are honest.  First and foremost.   For God's sake is this too much to ask?"


CCP is far closer to the situation than me.  My reaction was that IF he is telling the truth, then the way he handled it was masterful.  And if he is not, and caught, he is done (unlike Clinton, Obama, and other Dems caught in similar or worse situations).

CCP believes he is lying.  Maybe time will tell.  My question: If we go back in his political career and governance, are there (other) instances where he was proven a liar?  In the case of Clinton and Obama, looking back now, the answer is clearly yes.  With Christie, if so, I didn't know that.
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« Reply #59 on: May 28, 2014, 07:14:39 PM »

I hope at least he doesn't dress up in his clown suit and actually wears a suit and tie but I doubt it.  Look he may be a very smart business man and entertaining to those so inclined but give me a break.  Are people really going to take this seriously?   And Donald Trump again?  He must have paid an arm and a leg.   I don't have anything against Trump but at this point he is not a serious spokesperson for Americans.  OTOH hand the left had their promiscuous BCP champion.....

*******Duck Dynasty's Robertson To Address GOP Conference

Happy, happy, happy!

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The Republican Leadership Conference has announced their speakers for this weekend's conference in New Orleans, LA and the list includes reality television star Phil Robertson and Donald Trump.

Phil Robertson, patriarch of the Robertson family and star of the series “Duck Dynasty,” will address the 2014 Republican Leadership Conference, Thursday May 29th at 6pm. Also speaking on Thursday evening are RNC Chairman Reince Priebus, Gov. Bobby Jindal, Sen. Ron Johnson and Ben Sasse.
 Other Speakers at the 2014 Republican Leadership Conference include Governor Rick Perry, Governor Phil Bryant, US Senators Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, & David Vitter; Donald Trump, Newt Gingrich, Herman Cain, Rick Santorum, Michele Bachmann and Allen West! The Republican Leadership Conference in New Orleans has become one of the premier political events in the country.

Robertson was a target of gay rights activists in December 2013 after comments regarding homosexual behavior were published in an interview with GQ magazine. At the time, A & E, the network his show Duck Dynasty appears on, suspended him. After an intense and vocal response from the show's loyal fans, and an overwhelming petition drive here at Truth Revolt, he was reinstated.********* 
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« Reply #60 on: August 05, 2014, 08:33:35 AM »

Why did Eric Cantor resign early?

If you lived in the Virginia - DC area, or thought for a moment about what the greatest  industry of American 2014 is, the answer would be obvious.  He resigned to start the clock 5 months early on the ban on revolving door lobbying.  To hell with representing the people of Virginia, the big money is in selling back all that influence and he can't wait to get started. 
(http://thefederalist.com/2014/08/01/three-reasons-eric-cantor-quit-early/)

Prove us wrong Eric, but it looks like your core principles are power and influence and the people of your district got it right.
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« Reply #61 on: August 11, 2014, 08:28:17 PM »

I listen to Marc Levin and all I can think is why the heck do we not have Republicans who can articulate what he does day after day?

Why are the politicians on "our side" so darn lame?

They should be able to tear Obama and his party apart.

All they do is run in fear.

It has to also be a old boy's club.   

Rand Paul ain't goin to save anyone.  I'll take Cruz any day.

To think some are talking up Romney again?

Oh my "f" God.   I want to explode.    angry
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« Reply #62 on: August 28, 2014, 11:16:32 AM »

I keep getting notify rather than reply on some threads I pull up......

What is the Republican response to the middle class.  The same old tired few buzz words.  Same old tired stuff of Romney:

tax cuts

trickle down

jobs

"the economy"

My thesis is that is not resonating with the middle class.  IF IT WAS republicans would be winning in landslides.  If they cannot  or can only barely win now with the abomination in the WH now, then they are cooked.  It will over in 10 years once Texas goes Crat with the millions of new Democrat voters flooding the country.

Until republicans can come up with policies that make the playing field at least more competitive and fair for the middle class they will lose or barely win IMHO.  I don't agree with all of this but Republicans HAVE to have some sort of improved and advanced message to address the concerns brought up here.  If not they will always flounder in the wind:

 http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/31/more-republican-crumbs-for-the-middle-class.html
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« Reply #63 on: August 29, 2014, 10:32:22 PM »

I couldn't agree more.   Get the Bushes and crew into the parties' proverbial  back of the bus.  They are going to bring the party into the garbage if not already so:

      
****August 29, 2014

Why Karl Rove and the GOP Establishment Will Lose Again

By C. Edmund Wright

Karl Rove is at it once again. The so-called “strategist” is again confusing strategy with tactics, and is about to blow easy Senate pickups in Arkansas and North Carolina. This is not merely snatching defeat from the jaws of victory -- this is snatching defeat from the bowels of victory -- in astonishing tone-deaf fashion.

There is absolutely no excuse for not winning these two races.

So how is the one-time “boy genius” doing this? By running ads attacking Senators Mark Pryor and Kay Hagan from the left. Yes, you heard that right. Rove’s Crossroads GPS PAC is insisting in their latest ads in both states that Republican candidates Tom Cotton and Thom Tillis are better liberals than Pryor and Hagan, at least on Social Security. The ads attack Hagan and Pryor for wanting to raise the eligibility age for the defunct program.

Okay. So let’s somehow miss that Obama and Harry Reid are toxic associations in red states. Forget that ObamaCare is showing how big government liberalism is an abject failure. Forget that the VA scandal is showing the same thing. Forget that workforce participation is the lowest in history. Forget that the hated IRS has been outed as an arm of the Democrat party. Forget that deficits are at a record. Forget that the entire country is starting to recognize that our national nausea is almost always being caused by too much nanny-state liberalism.

Can’t mention those. No no. We have soccer mom focus group data that shows blah blah blah….

Rove and the GOP elite need to put down their pizzas and get out of the focus-group lab and into the real world a little bit. If they did, it might dawn on them to run a campaign of big ideas and overarching themes. You know, to tap into that anti-liberal anti-big government/nanny state mood? (No, that can’t work. I mean, those unapologetic big picture conservative campaigns fail every time -- you know, like in 1980, 84, 94, and 2010. And of course, the moderate fake right, go left, niche-by-niche strategies tried in 96, 98, 2006, 2008 and 2012 worked so well, right?)

So how does all of this self-evident history, not to mention a common sense understanding of human nature, escape all of the top Republican messaging sorcerers? One big factor is the isolated bubble that is Washington (and includes the New York media center). Precious little reality seeps into this bubble. Conservative columnist John Nolte even theorizes that the media is just as intent on shielding Washington Republicans from exposure to what’s really going on outside the beltway as they are to push their general liberal bias. He may have a point.

But there’s more.

Rove has the mind of a tactician, and a good one. He was a direct-mail guru for a long time before rising to prominence in the George W. Bush campaigns and administration. The problem is that he is now so involved with strategy -- and with the main thrust of messaging. Tactics and strategy are both necessary, but they are very different mindsets and skill sets. Strategy is a big picture right-brained enterprise. Tactics are a bureaucratic left-brained endeavor. The tactician Rove simply does not have the right mindset or skill set to be involved in ‘strategy’ messaging. It’s not who he is. No one is wired to do both.

Thus he runs broadcast campaigns the way he ran direct mail campaigns -- talk abortion over here, trade over there, and social security in another place. The problem is, when you broadcast niche issues, you are destroying your team’s ability to advance a big picture message. Rove is literally campaigning against the overwhelming national zeitgeist with his overresearched misunderstanding of what the tea leaves are saying.

You cannot win this way. It never works. Why would it? It makes no sense except to those who are so bogged down with the minutiae of focus-group research that they can’t see the forest for the trees. Focus groups and snapshot polls are the death of conservative campaigns. Conservatism cannot be understood within the confines of a two-hour focus group, nor can focus groups predict the reaction of voters to a multi-month long campaign of conservative messages in two hours either. Focus groups cannot possibly judge the impact of a long campaign message over time -- and yet, those who push this junk science use them for that express purpose. Rove is a big believer. We are big losers.

Consider: a focus group, by definition, tends toward emotional and big government solutions -- because it is a lowest common denominator pursuit due to the confines of time, peer pressure, and the participant selection process. You can’t even get into one of these groups until you can prove you are low information. Yet inspired by focus-group data, the Rove and GOP establishment-style campaigns continue to be shallow, niche-driven low-information campaigns. They are designed to make the low-information people think that our party joins them in their low-information opinions. I guess it never occurs to these wizards to use a campaign to educate voters and persuade them to join us? You know, like 80, 84, 94 and 2010? Google Reagan, Newt, and Tea Party for clarification.

Rove made a point to personally insult my book at a GOP convention in Charlotte in 2013, calling it a “poorly researched piece of trash.” My reply was that his 400-million-dollar ad campaign in 2012 was the poorly researched piece of trash. So are his campaigns this cycle too.

George W. Bush has called Rove both a “boy genius” and a “turd blossom.” I agree with Bush about 50% of the time, so I’ll go with the latter.

The author is a contributor to American Thinker and Newsmax TV, is author of Amazon bestseller WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost…Again, and comments at www.cedmundwright.com.

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« Reply #64 on: August 29, 2014, 10:39:11 PM »

Lets hope that if the Republicans fail to take the Senate that the big donors will wisen up and stop giving to Rove and crew.

OTOH I don't understand their murky complex relationship so I am not confident about that.
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« Reply #65 on: September 08, 2014, 10:16:36 AM »



http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/09/06/Laura-Ingraham-Blasts-RNC-For-Supporting-Obama-s-Planned-Executive-Amnesty 
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« Reply #66 on: September 28, 2014, 07:46:25 PM »

http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/2014/09/29/
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