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« Reply #1450 on: June 07, 2017, 10:32:16 PM »

http://www.dailywire.com/news/17275/obama-era-slush-fund-funneling-cash-leftist-groups-amanda-prestigiacomo?utm_campaign=foramerica&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_content=1496877314
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« Reply #1451 on: June 07, 2017, 10:37:04 PM »


That alone was a reason to vote for Trump.
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« Reply #1452 on: June 08, 2017, 01:46:33 AM »

Amen!

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Trump as a Democracy Promoter
His responses to abuse in Syria and Venezuela suggest he cares about freedom and human rights.
By Judy Shelton
June 7, 2017 7:24 p.m. ET
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Much has been made of President Trump’s supposed lack of interest in human rights and the promotion of American ideals. Stepping back from his rhetoric and looking at his actions suggests an alternative conclusion.

If it were an easy task to set up a flourishing democracy, the entire world would be experiencing peace and prosperity. But it has never been simple. Many people around the world understand that liberty, opportunity and fairness flow from democratic institutions. But establishing such systems takes time, and progress is uneven. The growing pains of warring internal factions and harsh retributions meted out by ruthless authoritarians slow the march toward democracy.

President Reagan sought to address the issue in a speech before the British Parliament on June 8, 1982. He affirmed it was a mistake to ignore the rise of tyrants: Britain had paid a terrible price in World War II after allowing dictators to underestimate its resolve. He further maintained that democratic nations needed to resist as a matter of self-expression. Reagan said we must think of ourselves as “free people, worthy of freedom and determined not only to remain so but to help others gain their freedom as well.”

The 40th president proposed countering totalitarianism and its terrible inhumanity by actively promoting freedom and democratic ideals throughout the world. He envisioned the creation of a bipartisan U.S. political foundation that would assist democratic development by openly providing support to those seeking equality and liberty for their countrymen. Building the infrastructure of democracy—free elections, free markets, free speech and rule of law—would empower people to choose their own way to reconcile their own differences through peaceful means. “Democracy is not a fragile flower,” Reagan observed. “Still, it needs cultivating.”

The National Endowment for Democracy, launched as a result of that speech, remains faithful to its founding mission: to help others achieve a system that protects the inalienable rights of individuals and guarantees the people’s freedom to determine their own destiny. The endowment provides modest grants to democracy activists around the world, but its greater gift is the imprimatur of moral support from the American people. Brave individuals on the front lines of the struggle for democracy in their own countries draw strength from that connection.

The efforts of five endowment grantees battling government corruption were applauded during a Capitol Hill ceremony on Wednesday, with remarks delivered by House Speaker Paul Ryan and Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi. Yet some argue that endorsing the spread of the American idea beyond the U.S. no longer aligns with the preferences of American voters. The most cynical voices claim Mr. Trump neither accepts nor comprehends the profound influence of America’s moral authority in the world.

That simplistic narrative is wrong. Consider Secretary of State Rex Tillerson’s remarks to his department’s employees last month. He adjured them to “remember that guiding all of our foreign-policy actions are our fundamental values,” which include “freedom, human dignity, the way people are treated.” As Mr. Tillerson explained, the objectives of the administration’s America First approach—encouraging economic prosperity and maintaining military readiness—are crucial if the U.S. is to promote its values abroad.

Mr. Trump’s decisions ultimately make the difference. “I see in the president somebody who said a lot of things in the campaign,” former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice noted in a recent Journal interview. “But when he was sitting in that chair and watched Syrian babies choking on chemical gas said, ‘I can’t let that stand.’ ”

What Mr. Trump apparently felt at a gut level is entirely in keeping with that uniquely American quality of being unable to ignore injustice—that inability to stand idly by while the rights of others are cruelly violated by despots. Does he appreciate that America’s own hard-fought path to democracy and equal rights means we never retreat from leadership or abstain from righteousness in a world prone to malevolence?

One notable event may provide a telling indication. In February, Mr. Trump met in the Oval Office with Lilian Tintori, wife of jailed Venezuelan opposition leader Leopoldo Lopez. Afterward the president tweeted a thumbs-up photo of himself, together with Vice President Mike Pence and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, standing beside Ms. Tintori. “Venezuela should allow Leopoldo Lopez, a political prisoner & husband of @liliantintori (just met w/@marcorubio) out of prison immediately,” read his accompanying message.

“Here in Venezuela, jaws dropped,” wrote Emiliana Duarte, managing editor of the English-language blog Caracas Chronicles, in the Atlantic. “For Venezuelans accustomed to living in fear of their dictatorial government, the sight of the president of the United States siding publicly with the most fearless champion of Venezuelan democracy was powerful.”

As someone who has thought deeply about democracy promotion, I take this as evidence that America’s leader—an admirer of Reagan—has the head and the heart to act with fundamental decency. American decency is born of gratitude for what this nation’s founders had the courage and vision to establish. It is what compels Americans to stand for the rights and liberties of those who can’t stand for those rights and liberties themselves. It is what drives the aspiration to share the American values that have made the U.S. not only successful but honorable.

Ms. Shelton is chairman of the National Endowment for Democracy. She served on the Trump transition team.

Appeared in the June 8, 2017, print edition.
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« Reply #1453 on: June 09, 2017, 12:22:24 PM »

I feel that Trump did not win election because of his name calling and other childish behavior.  He won in spite of it.  He won because of as Coulter says his policies
It is the policies stupid!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/you-cant-govern-by-id/2017/06/08/fad7a168-4c7a-11e7-9669-250d0b15f83b_story.html?utm_term=.011c46d05cfa
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« Reply #1454 on: June 11, 2017, 03:13:51 PM »

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-russia-probe-talk-lindsey-graham-article-1.3238742

I might add I would not feel sorry for Trump either.  But I would feel sorry for us.

There is no one who can carry the torch.
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« Reply #1455 on: June 24, 2017, 06:49:39 PM »

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/443188/donald-trumps-cunning-animal-instinct
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« Reply #1456 on: June 27, 2017, 01:46:56 AM »

http://www.conservativenews.com/article/3311/president-trump-breaks-tradition?utm_source=dwemail&utm_medium=email&utm_content=062617-news&utm_campaign=position4
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« Reply #1457 on: June 30, 2017, 03:19:58 PM »

The G-File By Jonah Goldberg Put Down the Phone, Mr. President

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/g-file/449152/donald-trump-tweets-agenda-damaged-character-revealed
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« Reply #1458 on: June 30, 2017, 04:09:46 PM »

Trump will not change.  Just forget it.     cry

From Fox off Drudge:

Few voters approve of President Trump’s tweeting, and most agree it’s making his job harder.

Seventy-one percent say the president’s tweets are hurting his agenda, according to the latest Fox News Poll.  Just 17 percent see the tweets as helpful. 

The poll was conducted Sunday through Tuesday evenings -- before a tweet by President Trump about MSNBC’s Mika Brzezinski received significant media coverage Thursday morning.

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READ THE RESULTS OF THE LATEST FOX NEWS POLL

Do voters consider the president’s online posts official statements?  Close call:  51 percent say yes vs. 45 percent no. 

Overall, only 13 percent approve of Trump’s tweeting.  It was 16 percent in March.  Forty-six percent disapprove, while 39 percent take the middle ground and “wish he’d be more cautious.”

Among Republicans, 21 percent approve, while 59 percent would like Trump to be more careful with his tweets and 18 percent disapprove.

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Majorities across the board say Trump’s tweets are hurting his agenda, although Democrats (87 percent) and independents (75 percent) are far more likely than Republicans (53 percent) to see it that way. 

Over half of Democrats (59 percent) say the tweets are official presidential statements, while over half of Republicans say they aren’t (52 percent).

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The Fox News poll is based on landline and cellphone interviews with 1,017 randomly chosen registered voters nationwide and was conducted under the joint direction of Anderson Robbins Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R) from June 25-27, 2017.  The poll has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points for all registered voters.
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« Reply #1459 on: June 30, 2017, 06:54:40 PM »

"President Trump’s tweeting, and most agree it’s making his job harder"

It's making his job harder.

The fact that he has a way to communicate directly to the people without going through the media is great.  How he uses it is not.

At least he does fight back, but too often he just digs new holes for himself and his agenda to fall into.

The Mika thing... a supporter could say they struck him first and deserved it but he is the President.  He needs to spell out his grievance and do it in a classier way.  Or ignore them and move forward, control the message, let them look petty.
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« Reply #1460 on: June 30, 2017, 08:25:02 PM »

"Or ignore them and move forward, control the message, let them look petty."

ignoring would have been the clever response .
why give them the time of the day?
why give them the media exposure?
why promote their show?

they are fleas - he is the most powerful man in the world

Yet he is responds like a spurned school girl.

I have given up hoping he will change, in this regard. 
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« Reply #1461 on: June 30, 2017, 08:57:09 PM »

https://spectator.org/trump-and-morning-joke/
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« Reply #1462 on: June 30, 2017, 10:27:56 PM »

"Or ignore them and move forward, control the message, let them look petty."

ignoring would have been the clever response .
why give them the time of the day?
why give them the media exposure?
why promote their show?

they are fleas - he is the most powerful man in the world

Yet he is responds like a spurned school girl.

I have given up hoping he will change, in this regard. 

W tried to ignore the critics/MSM. How did that work out for him?

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« Reply #1463 on: July 01, 2017, 12:43:15 AM »

OTOH, fake"Time" covers?!?  Seriously?!?  rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes

http://thepoliticalinsider.com/morning-joe-trump-tweets/

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« Reply #1464 on: July 01, 2017, 11:31:49 AM »

"W tried to ignore the critics/MSM. How did that work out for him?"

I don't know about Bush but Trump is hurting himself with his tweets.  
I have no problem with his spokespeople pointing out  how partisan the media is and that they are simply an attack mob,
but calling people names,  trying to humiliate them,  insulting language.

Sorry , but he is not helping himself.

Look at all the polls coming out.   A large majority say his tweets are hurting his agenda .




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« Reply #1465 on: July 01, 2017, 01:20:46 PM »

I'm guessing Mika's super soprano snicker about him hiding his hands in the fake Time cover is what drove him over the edge.

Rubio's opposition research discovered his extreme sensitivity to comments on his hand size and used it to unbalance Donald when Donald was ragging him as "Little Marco".  What did Donald do?  In a national debate he reassured the nation that his dick size is just fine.  Now Mika snickers, and again he lunges and lashes out.

This is weakness.
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« Reply #1466 on: July 01, 2017, 01:24:40 PM »

I'm guessing Mika's super soprano snicker about him hiding his hands in the fake Time cover is what drove him over the edge.

Rubio's opposition research discovered his extreme sensitivity to comments on his hand size and used it to unbalance Donald when Donald was ragging him as "Little Marco".  What did Donald do?  In a national debate he reassured the nation that his dick size is just fine.  Now Mika snickers, and again he lunges and lashes out.

This is weakness.

Trump is gonna Trump. Meanwhile, lots of good things are happening. I doubt anyone here expected him to walk on water. He's done better than I anticipated so far.
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« Reply #1467 on: July 01, 2017, 02:52:11 PM »

GM,

I want Trump to succeed too.

But he shoots us *all* in the feet every time he tweets childish memos.

In additions, he drives his far less courageous Repubs under cover.   

And he gives ammo not only to Dems,  but ammo to vengeful anti-Trumpsters - like McCain, whom I might add, I have lost a large amount of respect for.   

IMHO
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« Reply #1468 on: July 01, 2017, 02:58:54 PM »

GM,

I want Trump to succeed too.

But he shoots us *all* in the feet every time he tweets childish memos.

In additions, he drives his far less courageous Repubs under cover.   

And he gives ammo not only to Dems,  but ammo to vengeful anti-Trumpsters - like McCain, whom I might add, I have lost a large amount of respect for.   

IMHO

The dems and the republican wings of the dems, like McLame will never fight the left's deep state. They are content to live in DC and get their share of the loot while acting as the token resistance. Do you see the left worried about it's hateful messages or real violence from it's followers? Gee, Trump tweets mean things while a Bernie-bot tries to murder congressmen.

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« Reply #1469 on: July 01, 2017, 11:23:17 PM »

"He's done better than I anticipated so far."

I remember just how vigorously I opposed him during the primaries, yet somehow I have become quite a fan.  This makes his unforced errors all the more infuriating.  Fake Time covers?!?  Seriously?!?
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« Reply #1470 on: July 03, 2017, 10:17:07 PM »

National Enquirer Shielded Donald Trump From Playboy Model’s Affair Allegation
Tabloid owner American Media agreed to pay $150,000 for story from 1998 Playmate of the Year, but hasn’t published her account
Donald Trump and former Playboy model Karen McDougal
Donald Trump and former Playboy model Karen McDougal Photo: Associated Press; Getty Images
By Joe Palazzolo,
Michael Rothfeld and
Lukas I. Alpert
November 4, 2016
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The company that owns the National Enquirer, a backer of Donald Trump, agreed to pay $150,000 to a former Playboy centerfold model for her story of an affair a decade ago with the Republican presidential nominee, but then didn’t publish it, according to documents reviewed by The Wall Street Journal and people familiar with the matter.

The tabloid-newspaper publisher reached an agreement in early August with Karen McDougal, the 1998 Playmate of the Year. American Media Inc., which owns the Enquirer, hasn’t published anything about what she has told friends was a consensual romantic relationship she had with Mr. Trump in 2006. At the time, Mr. Trump was married to his current wife, Melania.

Quashing stories that way is known in the tabloid world as “catch and kill.”

In a written statement, the company said it wasn’t buying Ms. McDougal’s story for $150,000, but rather two years’ worth of her fitness columns and magazine covers as well as exclusive life rights to any relationship she has had with a then-married man. “AMI has not paid people to kill damaging stories about Mr. Trump,” the statement said.

Hope Hicks, a Trump campaign spokeswoman, said of the agreement with Ms. McDougal: “We have no knowledge of any of this.” She said that Ms. McDougal’s claim of an affair with Mr. Trump was “totally untrue.”

Ms. McDougal expected her story about Mr. Trump to be published, people familiar with the matter said. American Media didn’t intend to run it, said another person familiar with the matter. Ms. McDougal didn’t return calls for comment.

Mr. Trump and American Media Chairman and Chief Executive Officer David J. Pecker are longtime friends. Since last year, the Enquirer has supported Mr. Trump’s presidential bid, endorsing him and publishing negative articles about some of his opponents.

In a written statement, Mr. Pecker said that it is no secret that he and Mr. Trump are friends and that he greatly admires him. However, he said, the Enquirer under his management “set the agenda” on Mr. Trump’s affair with Marla Maples when he was married to his first wife. “That in itself speaks volumes about our commitment to investigative reporting,” he said.

AMI covered some of Mr. Trump’s relationship with Ms. Maples after Mr. Pecker arrived there in 1998. However, Mr. Pecker had not joined the company when their extramarital affair was first exposed in the early 90s.

A contract reviewed by the Journal gave American Media exclusive rights to Ms. McDougal’s story forever, but didn’t obligate the company to publish it and allowed the company to transfer those rights. It barred her from telling her story elsewhere. The company said it also would give her monthly columns to write and would put her on magazine covers.

AMI said in a written statement the company was pleased to hire Ms. McDougal as a columnist.
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The tabloid publisher didn’t publish Ms. McDougal’s story of the alleged extramarital affair even after Mr. Trump’s alleged relationships with and comments about women became a campaign issue. In October, the Washington Post published a videotape made by “Access Hollywood” of Mr. Trump, in which he spoke of groping women. Several women subsequently said publicly that he had made unwanted sexual advances.

Mr. Trump has denied their accounts and apologized for his remarks on the tape, calling them locker-room banter.

Ms. McDougal, who continued modeling after appearing in Playboy, told several of her friends she had a relationship for about 10 months with Mr. Trump, beginning in 2006 and lasting into 2007, according to people familiar with her account. Another friend told the Journal that Ms. McDougal’s relationship with Mr. Trump lasted about a year.

A friend of Ms. McDougal’s recalled attending the Miss Universe pageant at the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles as a guest of Mr. Trump in 2006. Mr. Trump’s limousine picked up Ms. McDougal and her at Ms. McDougal’s Beverly Hills home, and the two women sat in the front row with Mr. Trump and music producers Quincy Jones and David Foster. Mr. Trump escorted them home, the friend said.

Messages left with representatives for Messrs. Jones and Foster weren’t immediately returned.

In July, Ms. McDougal was in talks with producers at ABC News to tell her story, but she ultimately agreed to the deal with AMI, guided by her lawyer Keith Davidson, according to two people familiar with the discussions.

“I did indeed represent Ms. McDougal and currently represent Ms. McDougal in her negotiations with American Media Inc. to provide services to them,” Mr. Davidson said.

Mr. Davidson also represented Stephanie Clifford, a former adult-film star whose professional name is Stormy Daniels and who was in discussions with ABC’s “Good Morning America” in recent months to publicly disclose what she said was a past relationship with Mr. Trump, according to people familiar with the talks. Ms. Clifford cut off contact with the network without telling her story. She didn’t respond to requests for comment.

An ABC spokesperson declined to comment on Ms. McDougal or Ms. Clifford.

The Trump spokeswoman, Ms. Hicks, said it was “absolutely, unequivocally” untrue that Ms. Clifford had a relationship with Mr. Trump.

Mr. Davidson’s work for Ms. McDougal was in connection with “claims against Donald Trump and or assisting client in negotiating a confidentiality agreement and/or life rights related to interactions with Donald Trump and/or negotiating assignment of exclusive press opportunities regarding same,” according to a copy of Mr. Davidson’s agreement to represent her, which was reviewed by the Journal.

The agreement between Ms. McDougal and AMI doesn’t mention Mr. Trump by name, but gives the publisher the rights to “any romantic, personal and/or physical relationship McDougal has ever had with any then-married man.” The document says AMI is entitled to damages of at least $150,000 if she discloses her story elsewhere on social media or gives interviews about it.

Ms. McDougal hasn't appeared in or written for any AMI publications since signing the agreement, according to a person familiar with the matter.

Mr. Trump’s relationship with Mr. Pecker, the chairman of American Media, is well-documented. In the 1990s, when Mr. Pecker was president and chief executive of Hachette Filipacchi Magazines, the publisher put out “Trump Style,” a custom quarterly magazine distributed to guests at Trump properties.

As the presidential race ramped up last year, the Enquirer published a series of columns by Mr. Trump. One began, “I am the only one who can make America great again!” Another was headlined, “Donald Trump: The Man Behind the Legend!”

Amplifications:
David Pecker cited the Enquirer’s coverage of Donald Trump’s extramarital affair with Marla Maples as evidence of his commitment to investigative journalism. This story has been updated to make clear that the affair occurred and was first revealed in the early 1990s, predating Mr. Pecker’s arrival at the company. The Enquirer did publish articles about Mr. Trump and Ms. Maples before his arrival in 1998 and continued to do so afterward. (Nov. 6, 2016)
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« Reply #1471 on: July 27, 2017, 09:02:17 PM »

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/donald-trump-eats-first/534927/
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« Reply #1472 on: July 28, 2017, 07:01:24 AM »

from CD post above:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/donald-trump-eats-first/534927/

I agree with author's sentiment 100%.

Rush , who I admire,  I also disagree with.    Trumps tweets. daily rants , are not brilliant handling of the press with some sort of genius hidden plan.  His
berating Sessions for example is not some sort of scheme to make people more sympathetic to the AG and thus make him more effective or to instill incentive to Sessions eetc

These rants are stupid impulsive vindictive attacks by a guy who has some personality flaws and never takes responsibility for his own screw ups and has always his whole life blamed others.

Most likely he has  personality disorder.  My guess would be the most obvious like narcissistic .  Will be interested to see what the shrinks have to say now the polictical APA removed there ban on psychiatrists from pubicaly commenting on President's personality.  I notice though the left org they did not do this with the pervious nariccistic megalomaniac President or with Clinton who are both with their flaws.
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« Reply #1473 on: August 03, 2017, 01:22:16 PM »

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/us/politics/those-calls-to-trump-white-house-admits-they-didnt-happen.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&referer=http%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2F
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« Reply #1474 on: August 10, 2017, 09:11:28 AM »

https://amgreatness.com/2017/07/29/killing-gods-city/
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« Reply #1475 on: August 26, 2017, 11:26:13 AM »

Pretty potent stuff

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/450835/trump-and-chaos-yuval-levin
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« Reply #1476 on: September 01, 2017, 11:55:50 AM »

http://www.dickmorris.com/trumps-big-surge-polls-lunch-alert/?utm_source=dmreports&utm_medium=dmreports&utm_campaign=dmreports

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« Reply #1477 on: September 16, 2017, 06:09:20 PM »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/melania-trump-slowly-finds-her-first-lady-persona-more-bess-truman-than-jackie-kennedy/2017/09/15/7dfbea54-9a23-11e7-82e4-f1076f6d6152_story.html?undefined=&utm_term=.d1b70bef21c1&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

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« Reply #1478 on: September 17, 2017, 10:55:55 AM »

https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/why-mike-pence-and-jeff-sessions-should-resign

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« Reply #1479 on: September 17, 2017, 11:03:57 AM »

Hyper-ventilation in my opinion.
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