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« Reply #1200 on: July 05, 2016, 03:38:00 PM »

FBI: HILLARY LIED AND ILLEGALLY SENT CLASSIFIED EMAILS, BUT WE WON'T DO A THING ABOUT IT

July 5, 2016  Daniel Greenfield  

Is anyone seriously surprised?

Yes all sorts of people might have gone down for this. But the idea that government, in its current state, would hold a presidential candidate from the government party accountable for anything less than choking a nun to death in broad daylight while cackling evilly was always a pipe dream. (And probably not even then.)

Hillary Clinton has a vast and influential network at her disposal. And the current administration backs her to the hilt. Furthermore, Lynch no doubt made it clear to the FBI that no charges would be pursued no matter what. And that made the outcome inevitable.

The FBI investigation provides plenty of ammunition for the election. It makes it crystal clear that Hillary Clinton lied about not sending classified emails. But it also states that it isn't going to do a thing about it.

Here's Comey trying to sum up the classified email abuses

FBI investigators have also read all of the approximately 30,000 e-mails provided by Secretary Clinton to the State Department in December 2014. Where an e-mail was assessed as possibly containing classified information, the FBI referred the e-mail to any U.S. government agency that was a likely “owner” of information in the e-mail, so that agency could make a determination as to whether the e-mail contained classified information at the time it was sent or received, or whether there was reason to classify the e-mail now, even if its content was not classified at the time it was sent (that is the process sometimes referred to as “up-classifying”).

From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification. Separate from those, about 2,000 additional e-mails were “up-classified” to make them Confidential; the information in those had not been classified at the time the e-mails were sent.

The FBI also discovered several thousand work-related e-mails that were not in the group of 30,000 that were returned by Secretary Clinton to State in 2014. We found those additional e-mails in a variety of ways. Some had been deleted over the years and we found traces of them on devices that supported or were connected to the private e-mail domain. Others we found by reviewing the archived government e-mail accounts of people who had been government employees at the same time as Secretary Clinton, including high-ranking officials at other agencies, people with whom a Secretary of State might naturally correspond.

This helped us recover work-related e-mails that were not among the 30,000 produced to State. Still others we recovered from the laborious review of the millions of e-mail fragments dumped into the slack space of the server decommissioned in 2013.

With respect to the thousands of e-mails we found that were not among those produced to State, agencies have concluded that three of those were classified at the time they were sent or received, one at the Secret level and two at the Confidential level. There were no additional Top Secret e-mails found. Finally, none of those we found have since been “up-classified.”


 
But....

Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.

For example, seven e-mail chains concern matters that were classified at the Top Secret/Special Access Program level when they were sent and received. These chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending e-mails about those matters and receiving e-mails from others about the same matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation. In addition to this highly sensitive information, we also found information that was properly classified as Secret by the U.S. Intelligence Community at the time it was discussed on e-mail (that is, excluding the later “up-classified” e-mails).

None of these e-mails should have been on any kind of unclassified system, but their presence is especially concerning because all of these e-mails were housed on unclassified personal servers not even supported by full-time security staff, like those found at Departments and Agencies of the U.S. Government—or even with a commercial service like Gmail.

Separately, it is important to say something about the marking of classified information. Only a very small number of the e-mails containing classified information bore markings indicating the presence of classified information. But even if information is not marked “classified” in an e-mail, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it.

The clear evidence standard is of course absurd, because Clinton and her people knew the regulations and clearly violated them. That standard would apply to any other employee, yet Hillary is allowed to act as if she had no idea of what the law was or that she was violating it.

So Comey demolishes Hillary's lies about classified emails on the one hand and then shrugs the whole thing off on the other. You can see that as the action of a man in an impossible spot who does his job demolishing the alibi and then walks away having provided the information while knowing that it can be used politically, but not criminally.

Effectively he's blown the whistle but can't do anything about it.
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« Reply #1201 on: July 05, 2016, 07:59:56 PM »

Of course we all knew she would get off.

The only surprise to me is how easy it was.

Not only does she get off but the DOJ and the WH too.

Comey certainly did cave.  Not clear why.
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« Reply #1202 on: July 06, 2016, 02:56:20 AM »

I'm not certain what to make of it.

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« Reply #1203 on: July 06, 2016, 09:07:17 AM »

Uhhh  , , , what is that?


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« Reply #1204 on: July 06, 2016, 10:51:52 AM »

Uhhh  , , , what is that?




It's a person off of 4chan.org (a hacker chat sight) stating that they are an FBI analyst and the converstation that ensued yesterday.

Obviously anyone could just say that, but it would be a crime and the person actually had some interesting things to say.

The truth of their statements will be known shortly. If you click on the link, you have to click the magnifying glass to expand it to where it is readable.
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« Reply #1205 on: July 07, 2016, 05:04:15 PM »

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/july_2016/most_disagree_with_decision_not_to_indict_clinton
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« Reply #1206 on: July 07, 2016, 05:19:06 PM »

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/07/hillary-clinton-missing-emails-secretary-state-department-personal-server-investigation-fbi-214016

Among the troubling gaps is the time around her controversial approval of the purchase American nuclear assets by Russia.

"There are more mentions of LeBron James, yoga and NBC’s Saturday Night Live than the Russian Nuclear Agency in Clinton’s emails deemed official.”

(Peter Schweizer is the author of Clinton Cash)

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« Reply #1207 on: July 07, 2016, 06:37:11 PM »

Very interesting, , ,
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« Reply #1208 on: July 07, 2016, 06:39:16 PM »

"Rasmussen: 54% thought Hillary should have been indicted"

And when you subtract the 40 % who love her because she is a Democrat you have 54 % to 6 % who are either right or independent who think she should have been indicted.

The Leftists of course know she should have been they will just never say it. 
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« Reply #1209 on: July 07, 2016, 07:50:45 PM »

"Rasmussen: 54% thought Hillary should have been indicted"

And when you subtract the 40 % who love her because she is a Democrat you have 54 % to 6 % who are either right or independent who think she should have been indicted.

The Leftists of course know she should have been they will just never say it. 

Who knows?  I think the 54% include the people who love her and will vote for her anyway.

My centrist friends always say they vote for the person, not th party.  As I told my liberal cousin who doesn't like Hillary but will most certainly vote for her, I vote for the direction of the country, not the person.  Hillary is disgusting and despicable, but if you are a leftist liberal, she is all you have left.
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« Reply #1210 on: July 07, 2016, 09:38:02 PM »

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/07/06/former-congressman-allen-west-heres-why-im-delighted-about-the-fbis-verdict-on-clinton-emails/
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« Reply #1211 on: July 08, 2016, 07:49:36 AM »

 Iowahawk:

Possibly the first FBI investigation in history where the FBI director had to testify under oath and the target didn't.

https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/751125019116253184
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« Reply #1212 on: July 08, 2016, 11:28:32 AM »

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/437597/hillary-clinton-email-scandal-fbi-decision-america-lawless-state
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« Reply #1213 on: July 08, 2016, 12:32:15 PM »

Please post in Rule of Law too.
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« Reply #1214 on: July 08, 2016, 12:37:31 PM »


This article has a slight error.

"she clearly set up her illegal private e-mail server..."

They should have said "servers."

They make it sound like it's a one time thing.

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« Reply #1215 on: July 10, 2016, 07:18:44 AM »

Low-ranking soldiers are convicted and sent to the brig for comparatively trivial negligence; the secretary of state is given effective immunity for an offense that was systematic and gargantuan

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/437643/fbi-director-james-comey-testimony-clinton-defense-crumbles-under-scrutiny
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« Reply #1216 on: July 10, 2016, 10:59:10 AM »

On yahoo news she is blaming other officials for sending her classified emails!

This whole DOJ "looking into it " is , we all know , a joke.   Just a show.  Some insignificant aides will be thrown under the bus lest us just watch.  Who does the DOJ think they are kidding?  Not us here.

 
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« Reply #1217 on: July 11, 2016, 01:31:39 PM »

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/07/11/clinton-charity-spends-nearly-80-percent-administrative-costs/

IIRC this was the conduit for the deal wherein Hillary sold out 20% of US uranium supplies to Russian interests.

Also IIRC the US Clinton Foundation has an overhead of over 90%.

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« Reply #1218 on: July 13, 2016, 12:41:30 PM »

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/07/david-kendalls-deceitful-whitewater-op-ed.php
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« Reply #1219 on: July 13, 2016, 05:06:55 PM »

Again I thank God for Judicial Watch. 

Gotta love this one:

"The State Department claims that no one at the agency really knew anything about Mrs. Clinton’s non-state.gov email system, so there is nothing left to say.

Mrs. Clinton, on the other hand, claims that everyone at the agency knew all about her non-state.gov system, so, once again, there is nothing left to say."

Yet we have well known lawyers on the airwaves telling us NO CRIMES WERE COMMITTED when everyone can see from the public record that is simply not true.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/07/13/judicial-watch-chief-slowly-but-surely-clinton-email-cover-up-is-unraveling.html
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« Reply #1220 on: July 14, 2016, 02:28:29 AM »

That was pithy.
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« Reply #1221 on: July 14, 2016, 09:58:11 AM »


This piece is a keeper.  Like the Cattle Straddles, the only part that falls short of a prosecutable felony is that the facts and evidence were not all available until the Statue of Limitations had expired.  The crime is Obstruction of Justice, concealment of documents under judicial subpoena which means the documents expose even worse crimes.

She is already ineligible to be hired for any federal office, so let's make her President!

I don't want to re-live the 90s and the watching of the hunt down of Clinton crimes like a sports fan, but every opponent of Hillary today needs to be able to answer succinctly the question from Whitewater and the rest of it, 'What did she do wrong?'

The cattle straddles crime was the accepting of stolen money paid to in exchange for crony government favors.  The crime here is obstruction of justice; she prevented the court from doing it's job - in a criminal case where she was part of the conspiracy! 
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« Reply #1222 on: July 14, 2016, 11:31:40 AM »

Though that seems enough to buy small thinking voters.

Just like the minimum wage hike.  For a large corporation the total amount can add up.  But, for the individual it is mere chump change.  No one with any sense should take a minimum wage job without thinking that is just a temporary stepping stone anyway. 

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/14/dont-wait-for-presidential-decree-to-cut-student-debt.html?__source=yahoo%7Cfinance%7Cheadline%7Cheadline%7Cstory&par=yahoo&doc=103785689&yptr=yahoo
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« Reply #1223 on: July 14, 2016, 11:49:53 AM »

"she would impose a three-month moratorium on federal student loan payments via executive action"

A 3 month moratorium on a LONG term problem?

Via executive action?  Is that the new Article 1, 2 and 3 of the living, breathing US constitution?!

Someone stop her!

How about instead get the economy going again and let adult education be a market? 

How about start with no money toward gender studies and other fields that produce nothing.

The federal student loan and grant money is what is causing the out of control college costs.  It's not students demanding higher costs with their own money.  The idea you might not have to repay it makes it even more attractive to incur, hold and not pay down.

As usual, do more of whatever caused the mess.  Blame others.
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« Reply #1224 on: July 14, 2016, 02:20:35 PM »

"The federal student loan and grant money is what is causing the out of control college costs.  It's not students demanding higher costs with their own money.  The idea you might not have to repay it makes it even more attractive to incur, hold and not pay down."

This is just fine for an academia that is 90% liberal .  Very cozy don't you say?
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« Reply #1225 on: July 14, 2016, 06:44:42 PM »

http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/13/new-ties-emerge-between-clinton-and-mysterious-islamic-cleric/
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« Reply #1226 on: July 18, 2016, 08:47:50 AM »

https://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/clinton-bush-covered-saudi-terror-network-us
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« Reply #1227 on: July 20, 2016, 06:22:24 PM »

Looking for the post about Hillary's commodity trades and not finding it  , , , angry
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« Reply #1228 on: July 20, 2016, 10:42:25 PM »

Looking for the post about Hillary's commodity trades and not finding it  , , , angry

http://dogbrothers.com/phpBB2/index.php?topic=1534.msg86824#msg86     
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« Reply #1229 on: July 21, 2016, 07:14:35 AM »

Certainly a lot of what ifs.  But we know the last one is obviously true and the others certainly very possible:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/07/21/judge-napolitano-what-if-fix-was-in-for-hillary-at-obama-justice-department.html
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« Reply #1230 on: July 21, 2016, 05:18:44 PM »

Very strong!
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« Reply #1231 on: July 22, 2016, 03:15:50 PM »

I said it would be Tim Kaine, now NYTimes says Tim Kaine, Washington Post, too, but he is not liberal enough!  Supported Free Trade!

Cory Booker is black.  That's exciting!  'His' life matters.  But supports school choice.  (

Elizabeth Warren is Cherokee, Harvard's first 'woman of color'!  Too risky.

Hickenlooper supports fracking.  Are there ANY good Democrats available?

It's pretty hard to say her first choice Huma comes from a different state if they are together 24/7/365.

This is a conundrum.

Hillary should pick Joe Biden!  Tanned and tested.

Democrats save bad news they want ignored for the Friday afternoon news dump.
Hillary says she will 'tweet' her choice today.
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« Reply #1232 on: July 26, 2016, 07:10:16 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=n3t4NlpxcMc
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« Reply #1233 on: July 26, 2016, 09:48:13 AM »

http://nypost.com/2016/07/25/clinton-practically-handed-her-email-password-to-the-russians/

If Vlad really wanted to torch the Hildabeast he would release her Clinton Foundation corruption just before the election.  We all know what went on.  Since Comey won't do anything and allowed her and her criminal lawyers to destroy evidence Vlad may well have copies.  Would that be great!
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« Reply #1234 on: July 26, 2016, 10:02:56 AM »

http://nypost.com/2016/07/25/clinton-practically-handed-her-email-password-to-the-russians/

If Vlad really wanted to torch the Hildabeast he would release her Clinton Foundation corruption just before the election.  We all know what went on.  Since Comey won't do anything and allowed her and her criminal lawyers to destroy evidence Vlad may well have copies.  Would that be great!

Why would he do that when he can sit on them and use them as leverage if the Dowager Empress becomes president?
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« Reply #1235 on: July 26, 2016, 11:07:46 AM »

"Why would he do that when he can sit on them and use them as leverage if the Dowager Empress becomes president?"

Well, if she becomes President, and Russia gains control of EVEN MORE of our uranium , then we will have our answer.  Thanks to the joker smiling beast.

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« Reply #1236 on: July 26, 2016, 11:54:34 AM »

http://nypost.com/2016/07/25/clinton-practically-handed-her-email-password-to-the-russians/

If Vlad really wanted to torch the Hildabeast he would release her Clinton Foundation corruption just before the election.  We all know what went on.  Since Comey won't do anything and allowed her and her criminal lawyers to destroy evidence Vlad may well have copies.  Would that be great!

Why would he do that when he can sit on them and use them as leverage if the Dowager Empress becomes president?

Good points.  That was the risk of cheating, of corruption, of deception and of communicating over an unsecured server.  Give an enemy leverage, career ending leverage.  Hillary's only defense against damaging releases is that everyone already knows she is a crook.  There are books out there documenting it.

I believed all along that deleted emails will become public over time from a variety of sources and that the worst ones will come out last.  The tell-all books from her friends will mostly come out too late to matter and most of the media would rather be a co-conspirator than report.  Still, there is more info out there and big secrets are hard to keep.

Assuming Putin has control over these even if it was a private Russian hack, it is an interesting game theory exercise to ponder how he will best use it to his advantage.  First he has to show he has it and is willing to use it:  Check.  Now if they communicate over keeping something secret, he will have that too!

Which candidate would make a better partner for Putin, Trump or Hillary, through his eyes?  The answer is not clear or obvious.  The Hillary side wants us to presume Putin prefers Trump, because what?  The Democrat would be so tough on him?  What did Obama say, tell Vladimir I will have more flexibility after my reelection...  Putin may prefer Trump for reasons different than people think, a more rational person to deal with.  He may prefer Hillary as the pushover.  Or is Hillary more of a hawk than Trump?  Trump would build an arsenal that would make Putin's look puny? 

Also assume that various people, even the Clintons, have dirt on Trump beyond the Trump University, commenting on breasts and business bankruptcies to expose. 

Look for this to keep getting uglier. 
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« Reply #1237 on: Today at 08:40:36 AM »

And 2,000 others.......

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/07/bill_clinton_s_long_beautiful_speech_at_the_dnc.html

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« Reply #1238 on: Today at 01:12:12 PM »



http://www.dickmorris.com/hillary-bill-left-dick-morris-tv-lunch-alert/?utm_source=dmreports&utm_medium=dmreports&utm_campaign=dmreports
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« Reply #1239 on: Today at 03:13:38 PM »

I didn't know the # 1 Yale law school grad flunked the DC bar!

Dick for some reason is not being hired officially by Trump.  Though he has been writing a book about how Trump can beat Hillary and and doing nice hit pieces on National Enquirer for Trumps cause.
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« Reply #1240 on: Today at 09:37:13 PM »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/1100-donors-to-a-canadian-charity-tied-to-clinton-foundation-remain-secret/2015/04/28/c3c0f374-edbc-11e4-8666-a1d756d0218e_story.html
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