One of my good gym buddies is Tony Fryklund.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Fryklund
He was intrigued by some things he saw me doing with shot puts (this has been really good in my rehab of my separated shoulder) so I gave him a few ideas and turned him loose to experiment. He became quite enthused and came up with a whole bunch of things more oriented to MMA clinch whereas my routine is more oriented to "Kali Tudo"
He suggested I come by his MMA wrestling class the next day with the shot puts and we worked on some interesting things. I was very impressed with how the training method instantly improved the power and fluidity of one's clinch movement.
So I lent him my 8s (and have been working with my 6s and 4s instead) and he has been working things out for a couple of weeks.
The plan is to shoot the first of a series of training clips next week and have it available for download not too long after that.