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Jacob Sisler
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« on: August 03, 2004, 11:17:34 PM »

Woof Crafty Dog,

I noticed that you guys incorporate Dr. Gyi methods of Yoga, Letha Yoga if i'm not mistaken. What makes it different from other forms? How good is it for people who want to walk as a warrior for all his days? Does Dr. Gyi only teach through seminars? I think it would be really cool if you could get a tape or 2 on his methods, nut that is just my opinion. Thanks for your time
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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2004, 03:56:26 PM »

woof:

Quote from: Jacob Sisler


I noticed that you guys incorporate Dr. Gyi methods of Yoga, Letha Yoga if i'm not mistaken. What makes it different from other forms? How good is it for people who want to walk as a warrior for all his days?


i am not Guro Crafty. i was fortunate enough to attend 2 of Dr. Gyi's Letha Yoga seminars when he was in NYC. this doesn't make me qualified really to expound on letha, so take my post FWIW.

Letha is specifically partner-assisted. there are certain ranges of motion you cannot reach unless you have a partner assisting you. it helps to release toxins that are built up in the joints from training/fighting/shock to body. if you can, you should check it out. FWIW, i believe Guro Crafty believes it's so good, that he has included it in DBMA. i personally believe it helps.

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I think it would be really cool if you could get a tape or 2 on his methods, nut that is just my opinion. Thanks for your time


forgive the advertisement:  join the DBMAA, there is a vidlesson on dhanda yoga (yoga with a staff).

HTH.
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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2004, 07:41:30 PM »

I've had some brief exposure to the Dr. Gyi Letha Yoga techniques thought a Dog Brother training camp.    Restorative techniques aren't just for older guys, as they simply speed up recovery time.  While I enjoyed the material, such a regimen involves a regular ritual for results.   The solo stuff is more appealing as it's difficult to find a regular partner to do the partner activities, although it really is better when someone else helps out.  

An alternative method for increasing circulation is light aerobic exercise.  Thermally-induced vasodilation and vasocontriction  can be as easy as  alternating hot and cold water in the shower, ending on cold.   Apparently, this quick shower method is gaining popularity among pro athletes, although massage, ice and hot water treatments have been popular all along.

Although many cultures have a history with hot/cold water treatment,  the Scandinavian and Baltic people have been my exposure.  The coldest lake and hottest sauna I've ever experienced were in Finland. The Baltic (Latvians, Lithuanians) augment the hot/cold cycles with a birch (fine twigs) branch whipping.    And when I was young, I always thought the Latvian grandmothers kept that birch broom around to punish kids stealing candy ! Little did I know !

I've been doing this for only a couple of months, but wow, you feel fantastic afterwards.  I can't comment on the
boost to recovery from a workout thought.  As a bonus, you'll cut your gas bill for your hot water usage.  Plus, you may relive all of those summer camp memories of running out of hot water in the shower.


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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2008, 01:15:44 PM »

Not sure where to put this, but perhaps it will be re-routed to a better area...

Anyone have a good line on where to purchase good Dit Da Jow? Better yet, a recipe or homemade batch?

Thanks,

Miguel
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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2008, 12:44:18 AM »

Not sure where to put this, but perhaps it will be re-routed to a better area...

Anyone have a good line on where to purchase good Dit Da Jow? Better yet, a recipe or homemade batch?

Thanks,

Miguel
I've been doing Chinese martial arts a good while and have experimented making different types.  Whatever you decide to try, be sure to rub/massage it in well.  A guy who's into iron palm/breaking solid objects explained to me that his jow is wine based (as opposed to most which are hard alcohol based).  This is because the water content makes it take longer to evaporate, so it takes longer to massage into the area.  As I understand it massage is very important to treating injuries in hilot as well.
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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2008, 01:19:45 AM »

If you use the Advanced Search function to look for "Dit Da Jow" you may find something , , ,
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2008, 01:41:31 PM »

Not sure where to put this, but perhaps it will be re-routed to a better area...

Anyone have a good line on where to purchase good Dit Da Jow? Better yet, a recipe or homemade batch?

Thanks,

Miguel

https://www.coilingdragoninternalarts.com/store/
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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2008, 07:06:26 PM »

SB_ Mig try the Fighters Friend liniment sold by Kombat Instruments.  C-Spider Dog turned me on to it.  It works much like a Jow even better than many.

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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2008, 09:46:31 PM »

Some good alignment/stretches for the shoulders:



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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2008, 08:18:44 PM »

The one at 3:30 on the second clip was new to me.  Obvious once you see it, but new to me nonetheless.  cool
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« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2008, 09:26:07 PM »

3:30 of which clip?
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« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2008, 11:28:31 PM »

Ummm, , , , the second one  cheesy
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« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2008, 11:30:53 PM »

I really like what this lady has to show as well:

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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2009, 06:01:15 AM »

Hips Are Bringing More Athletes to Their Knees

 SCHMIDT
Published: May 31, 2009
The quest to build ever more proficient athletes keeps hitting unexpected snags, and perhaps nowhere is this more vivid than in Major League Baseball. Several top players have been hampered by a hip ailment that was unheard of in the sport a decade ago.


Knee injuries to countless recreational and professional athletes in recent years made anterior cruciate ligament a household phrase and compelled trainers to emphasize building leg strength. Sports medicine experts now say that approach, while mitigating knee injuries, may be making hips vulnerable.

“No matter what we do, as complex as we try and make workouts and training methods, we lose sight of other things,” said Mackie Shilstone, a trainer based in New Orleans, who works with baseball, football and hockey players who are rehabilitating injuries. “We tend to concentrate on what is directly in front of us.

“In all my years as a trainer, I have not seen anything like the increase in hip injuries that I have seen over the past two years.”

No studies have been published to confirm this phenomenon. But many trainers and orthopedists say the anecdotal evidence is jarring, and medical staffs for Major League Baseball teams and franchises in other sports are scrambling to understand why athletes’ hips suddenly seem so fragile.

Experts said other factors could be at work in addition to the overemphasis on leg strength. Advances in magnetic imaging have enabled doctors to see inside the hip and identify certain ailments, and the increasing number of children playing sports at younger ages has led to more instances of improper bone development.

Several of baseball’s biggest stars — including Alex Rodriguez of the Yankees, Chase Utley of the Philadelphia Phillies and Carlos Delgado of the Mets — have been forced to the sideline after having surgery to repair a torn labrum, the cartilage that runs along the rim of the hip socket. Rodriguez recently returned after missing two months, and Delgado has said he may not return this season. On Thursday, one of Utley’s teammates, pitcher Brett Myers, was found to have a damaged labrum in his hip. He is expected to have surgery this week.

Not all doctors are convinced that training is the culprit.

“It’s not like workouts have changed all of a sudden; it doesn’t explain it,” said Christopher Powers, an associate professor of biokinesiology at the University of Southern California. “People and doctors are just more aware of it diagnostically. We’ve always had hip problems; now we are just finding it better.”

The number of players on the disabled list because of hip and groin-muscle injuries rose to 34 in 2008 from 20 in 2007. Through the first quarter of this season, at least 13 players have gone on the disabled list with hip injuries.

“Delgado and A-Rod asked me about it,” said Utley, who had hip surgery last November after the Phillies won the World Series. “They both wanted to know what I did to keep playing.

“Before, guys never had hip surgeries and never let them work on their hips. But this was different.”

No sports medicine experts pointed to performance-enhancing drugs in explaining the rise in hip injuries. But dozens of major league baseball players, including Rodriguez, have been linked to performance-enhancing drugs in recent years, raising suspicions every time a new injury trend appears.

“It’s interesting to see what injuries increase as we come out of the steroid era,” said Stan Conte, the head trainer for the Los Angeles Dodgers.

The sudden prominence of hip injuries comes a year after an unusual number of baseball players sustained strained oblique muscles, which run from the ribs to the abdomen.

The apparent rash of hip injuries extends beyond baseball, doctors and trainers said. Athletes of all ages and skill levels and in varying sports are having hip problems at higher rates and being found to have labral tears, they said. Soccer and hockey players in particular have followed the conventional training wisdom in recent years and bolstered their knees. Now some of them, including Islanders goalie Rick DiPietro and midfielder Freddie Ljungberg of Major League Soccer’s Seattle Sounders, who have both had labrum surgery, are having hip trouble.

“In soccer, they train harder than they used to train 10 to 15 to 20 years ago, when soccer had had a lot of A.C.L. tears,” said Dr. Andreas H. Gomoll, an associate professor of orthopedic surgery at Harvard Medical School and a surgeon at Brigham and Women’s Hospital.

“They started worrying much more about knees; they now do special training to protect the knee. And one belief is that this is why we have more of these injuries because the strength is putting more pressure on the hips.”

Dr. Bryan T. Kelly, a surgeon at the Hospital for Special Surgery in Manhattan, performed Utley’s operation and is scheduled to operate on Myers. He said he did not believe it was a coincidence that “I get 40 hockey players in a six-week period at the end of the season all coming into my office with the same-looking bone structure in their hips, all saying that they have been skating since they were 3 years old.”

Kelly added, “I believe we are seeing some consequences from having our kids over the past few decades playing sports more at younger ages.”

As magnetic imaging has become more sophisticated, doctors have gained the ability to see inside the hip and identify labral tears.

“We are doing a much better job at imaging the injuries, and we are also seeing athletes with bigger bodies that are working harder on strength and conditioning, and the bigger, stronger muscles are allowing athletes to torque faster and more pressure is being put on the hip,” said Dr. Jordan Metzl, a sports medicine specialist at the Hospital for Special Surgery.

Problems with labral tears occur when the head of the femur does not fit correctly in the hip socket. If it is not a good fit, the labrum is squeezed between the ball and the socket when the hip is flexed. Over time, the labrum can become irritated and tear.

The problem with an adolescent, doctors said, is that the head of the femur is still growing. Stress on the hip can cause the bone to become misshapen. As the athlete continues to play sports into adulthood, the improperly shaped bone rubs against the labrum.

“I believe the situation with the hips is similar to Little League baseball, where there is a high awareness to elbow injuries from pitching too much because the joints are still developing,” Kelly said. “But with the hips, nothing is said. There is nothing done to try and prevent damage from being done.”
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« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2009, 07:06:39 AM »

Woof All:

Some of you may have heard me quote Sara Petitt, Guro Inosanto's yoga teacher (proud to say I introduced the two of them) to the effect that "Knees are escape valves for hips"; the idea being that when the hips are tight and/or misaligned that the stress is transfered to the knees.  This article seems to suggest there is a relationship in the other direction as well.

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Hips Are Bringing More Athletes to Their Knees

 SCHMIDT
Published: May 31, 2009
The quest to build ever more proficient athletes keeps hitting unexpected
snags, and perhaps nowhere is this more vivid than in Major League Baseball.
Several top players have been hampered by a hip ailment that was unheard of
in the sport a decade ago.

Knee injuries to countless recreational and professional athletes in recent
years made anterior cruciate ligament a household phrase and compelled
trainers to emphasize building leg strength. Sports medicine experts now say
that approach, while mitigating knee injuries, may be making hips
vulnerable.

"No matter what we do, as complex as we try and make workouts and training
methods, we lose sight of other things," said Mackie Shilstone, a trainer
based in New Orleans, who works with baseball, football and hockey players
who are rehabilitating injuries. "We tend to concentrate on what is directly
in front of us.

"In all my years as a trainer, I have not seen anything like the increase in
hip injuries that I have seen over the past two years."

No studies have been published to confirm this phenomenon. But many trainers
and orthopedists say the anecdotal evidence is jarring, and medical staffs
for Major League Baseball teams and franchises in other sports are
scrambling to understand why athletes' hips suddenly seem so fragile.

Experts said other factors could be at work in addition to the overemphasis
on leg strength. Advances in magnetic imaging have enabled doctors to see
inside the hip and identify certain ailments, and the increasing number of
children playing sports at younger ages has led to more instances of
improper bone development.

Several of baseball's biggest stars - including Alex Rodriguez of the
Yankees, Chase Utley of the Philadelphia Phillies and Carlos Delgado of the
Mets - have been forced to the sideline after having surgery to repair a
torn labrum, the cartilage that runs along the rim of the hip socket.
Rodriguez recently returned after missing two months, and Delgado has said
he may not return this season. On Thursday, one of Utley's teammates,
pitcher Brett Myers, was found to have a damaged labrum in his hip. He is
expected to have surgery this week.

Not all doctors are convinced that training is the culprit.

"It's not like workouts have changed all of a sudden; it doesn't explain
 it," said Christopher Powers, an associate professor of biokinesiology at
the University of Southern California. "People and doctors are just more
aware of it diagnostically. We've always had hip problems; now we are just
finding it better."

The number of players on the disabled list because of hip and groin-muscle
injuries rose to 34 in 2008 from 20 in 2007. Through the first quarter of
this season, at least 13 players have gone on the disabled list with hip
injuries.

"Delgado and A-Rod asked me about it," said Utley, who had hip surgery last
November after the Phillies won the World Series. "They both wanted to know
what I did to keep playing.

"Before, guys never had hip surgeries and never let them work on their hips.
But this was different."

No sports medicine experts pointed to performance-enhancing drugs in
explaining the rise in hip injuries. But dozens of major league baseball
players, including Rodriguez, have been linked to performance-enhancing
drugs in recent years, raising suspicions every time a new injury trend
appears.

"It's interesting to see what injuries increase as we come out of the
steroid era," said Stan Conte, the head trainer for the Los Angeles Dodgers.

The sudden prominence of hip injuries comes a year after an unusual number
of baseball players sustained strained oblique muscles, which run from the
ribs to the abdomen.

The apparent rash of hip injuries extends beyond baseball, doctors and
trainers said. Athletes of all ages and skill levels and in varying sports
are having hip problems at higher rates and being found to have labral
tears, they said. Soccer and hockey players in particular have followed the
conventional training wisdom in recent years and bolstered their knees. Now
some of them, including Islanders goalie Rick DiPietro and midfielder
Freddie Ljungberg of Major League Soccer's Seattle Sounders, who have both
had labrum surgery, are having hip trouble.

"In soccer, they train harder than they used to train 10 to 15 to 20 years
ago, when soccer had had a lot of A.C.L. tears," said Dr. Andreas H. Gomoll,
an associate professor of orthopedic surgery at Harvard Medical School and a
surgeon at Brigham and Women's Hospital.

"They started worrying much more about knees; they now do special training
to protect the knee. And one belief is that this is why we have more of
these injuries because the strength is putting more pressure on the hips."

Dr. Bryan T. Kelly, a surgeon at the Hospital for Special Surgery in
Manhattan, performed Utley's operation and is scheduled to operate on Myers.
He said he did not believe it was a coincidence that "I get 40 hockey
players in a six-week period at the end of the season all coming into my
office with the same-looking bone structure in their hips, all saying that
they have been skating since they were 3 years old."

Kelly added, "I believe we are seeing some consequences from having our kids
over the past few decades playing sports more at younger ages."

As magnetic imaging has become more sophisticated, doctors have gained the
ability to see inside the hip and identify labral tears.

"We are doing a much better job at imaging the injuries, and we are also
seeing athletes with bigger bodies that are working harder on strength and
conditioning, and the bigger, stronger muscles are allowing athletes to
torque faster and more pressure is being put on the hip," said Dr. Jordan
Metzl, a sports medicine specialist at the Hospital for Special Surgery.

Problems with labral tears occur when the head of the femur does not fit
correctly in the hip socket. If it is not a good fit, the labrum is squeezed
between the ball and the socket when the hip is flexed. Over time, the
labrum can become irritated and tear.

The problem with an adolescent, doctors said, is that the head of the femur
is still growing. Stress on the hip can cause the bone to become misshapen.
As the athlete continues to play sports into adulthood, the improperly
shaped bone rubs against the labrum.

"I believe the situation with the hips is similar to Little League baseball,
where there is a high awareness to elbow injuries from pitching too much
because the joints are still developing," Kelly said. "But with the hips,
nothing is said. There is nothing done to try and prevent damage from being
done."
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