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Author Topic: you knew this? KUBARK  (Read 1908 times)
devnul
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« on: November 16, 2005, 09:42:59 PM »

http://www.parascope.com/articles/0397/kub_ix.htm

What you think about this? and on its  use?
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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2005, 12:44:06 PM »

How reliable is this site?
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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2005, 05:35:29 PM »

"Kubark" is a document from 1963, just wanted to make sure people understood how old it is.
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2005, 06:58:47 PM »

Indeed, it is a document of year 1963. Soon there was a revision in the decade of 80?s, that is the one that I put to you next.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB27/02-02.htm

 He is the manual of the CIA on like obtaining to information in an interrogation using diverse types of psychological physical tortures
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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2005, 07:25:49 PM »

To me, which annoys to me, it is that so much by according to that things is criticized to you, while here they forget the beasts that were in the Inquisici?n, that that if that was tortures.

 What I will explain next is what it was made here (so that soon they criticize what the CIA compared with these savageries did)

The dark side of history is the torture. Several of the elements used during the Average Age to make these savageries were:

* THE COLT: The victim was tied to the ends and later she was thrown of the cords until the members are descoyuntaban. It was used mainly in France and Germany, during the times of the Inquisici?n.



THE CRASH HEAD: Destined to compress and to burst the bones of the skull. The chin of the victim was placed in inferior bar, and the cap was pushed downwards by the screw. The effects of this device are, in the first place, the rupture of the dental alve?los, later the jaws and finally the brain slips by the cavity of the eyes and between fragments of the skull



THE WHEEL: It was commonest in germanic Europe. It turned the prisoner, completely immobilized, in true material of work, so that the twig was descoyuntando to him or taking members to him voluntarily. He was one of the most horrible suplicios of the Average Age. The condemned, naked, was prim mouth above in the ground, or pat?bulo, with the members extended to the maximum and tied to stakes or iron curtains ring. Under the wrists, elbows, knees and hips were placed wood pieces. The twig struck violent blows to the wheel, crushed all the bones and joints, trying not to give fatal blows. Later he was loose and introduced between the radii of the great horizontal wheel to the end of a post that later was raised. The crows and other animals took meat strips and drained the river basins of the eyes of the victim, until at this one the death arrived to him.



THE STICK: Method by which an iron striker pin at the same time penetrates and breaks the cervical vertebrae that all the neck pushes towards ahead squashing the trachea against the fixed necklace, thus killing by asphyxia or slow destruction of the spinal marrow. The presence of the end in the later part does not not only cause a fast death, but that increases the possibilities of a prolonged agony. It was used until principles of century XX in Catalonia and some Latin American countries. It is still used in the New World, mainly for the police torture, and also for executions.



THE MOUNTAIN RANGE: This instrument of torture does not need many explanations. Their martyrs are abundant. As a result of the inverted position of the condemned, sufficient oxigenaci?n to the brain makes sure and the general loss of blood is prevented, with which the victim does not lose the knowledge until the mountain range reaches the navel, and even the chest, according to stories of century XIX. The Bible (II Samuel 12:31) makes mention to this type of torture, at the time of King David. This fact I contribute to the acceptance of the mountain range, the axe and the bonfire. The mountain range was often applied to homosexuals (gays and lesbians), although mainly to men. In Spain the mountain range was means of military execution until century XVIII. In Catalonia, during the War of Independence (1808-14), the Catalan guerrillas put under tens of enemy officials to the mountain range. In luterana Germany the mountain range waited for to the ringleaders rebellious farmers, and in France to the pregnant witches by Satan.



THE CRADLE OF JUDAS: The criminal was tied and hoisted and once he was high loosen dropping it to him on a pyramid causing that, with its own weight, nailed the end of the same one in the anus, the vagina, escroto, etc. This maneuver was made several times. It was used practicamente to make confess the condemned.





These are some examples of which it was made this way.

In those times, when you had the black slaves, also were used torture methods?
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